Do we still have to lean in if Dave Goldberg is dead?

After three days of silence on the cause of death for Dave Goldberg, the New York Times has changed their story in the span of seven hours, some mysterious source said collapsed while exercising. Then a leak to the Associated Press said head trauma. If we were in an Agatha Christie mystery, I’d say heart attack.

But we are in the real world, and I don’t believe any of it.

My uncle committed suicide. His son hid in the closet while my uncle shot himself in the head. His son saw everything.

I didn’t know this until 20 years later. Everyone in my family thought the uncle had a heart attack shoveling snow. Every time my dad went out to shovel snow, my mom would say, “Be careful! I don’t want you to have a heart attack.”

The first thing my brother did when he saw my post about Dave Goldberg killing himself was send a reminder of our uncle. We still can’t believe how long the family thought he died shoveling snow. Family secrets are powerful. And effective.

So it seems pretty easy to me for Dave’s family to tell everyone a lie.

A reporter from CNN called me this morning. He asked me what the motive would be for Sheryl to lie about the cause of death.

Are you kidding me? The fact that CNN can’t dream up a motive really blows my mind.

Sheryl has made her husband, Dave, the role model for the perfect husband. She has said many times that the most important factor in her success was the husband she chose. And as late a week ago, she was saying that men need to do more, they are not doing enough, they need to take more responsibility. And, again, she held up her husband as an example.

It’s hard to be put in the spotlight as the world’s best dad and world’s best husband. Dave had one of the hardest roles in public life to maintain. He was CEO of a company where the investors were dumping stock, and Sheryl made people believe Dave was perfect – a poster boy for the family guy.

So then, I would like to know why was he on vacation in Mexico without Sheryl and without the kids? What was it a vacation from? Who was he with?

Why was Sheryl in DC instead of going to get the body? Why was Sheryl in DC instead of home with her kids? Why does Dave take a vacation when Sheryl is scheduled to be gone?

I wouldn’t ask so many questions except that Sheryl keeps telling me to lean in, but she doesn’t tell me how she does it. I ended up spending my 401K on household help, scaling back my career, and taking my kids on business trips that were magical at first and a bore thereafter.

Sheryl tells me she can lean in because she has a husband who is perfect, but it’s hard to believe because in the time she’s been married to him, he’s gained a lot of weight. And we all know that gaining that much weight is a sign of serious problems.

She tells me she and her husband try to make sure one of them is home with the kids, but it’s not what we have seen in the last five days. She doesn’t tell us if she has nannies. She doesn’t tell us how often she is away from her kids.  All she tells us is that leaning in depends on her husband.

So can she lean in now? Can you lean in if you don’t have the perfect husband? What if it’s too late to get the perfect husband? She doesn’t address that, but maybe she will now. I have a feeling that the spokesperson for high-flying careers is going to get a lot more informative and helpful now that she’s a single mom. All the money in the world can’t buy a substitute for a parent showing up to kiss a skinned knee.

But first she needs to stop misleading us. It’s misleading to refuse to talk about how much household help she has. It’s misleading to not talk about what she gives up with her kids, since all decisions in life are about choosing what to give up. It’s misleading to tell us she has a perfect husband and not address the cause of his huge weight gain.

Most of all, it’s misleading to ignore pleas for the cause of death for three days and then come up with something that is pretty difficult to confirm. And I can tell you, coming from a family of people who are misleading, that it’s a way of life once you start.

That doesn’t justify waiting three days to announce cause of death, and it doesn’t justify the misinformation she’s been spreading the last three years to push her own agenda.

That said I’m not sure it matters anymore how Dave died. Maybe he did die of a heart attack. It’s a fine line between a heart attack and a suicide. Heart attack is purely a disease of lifestyle. It is preventable. So Dave Goldberg died from a being totally out of control in his life from stress, or he died from depression that got out of control. Either way, Sheryl and Dave had nowhere near the perfect marriage that we heard about nonstop from Sheryl.

What matters is that we might all get relief from Sheryl painting a picture of the perfect family, refusing to divulge pertinent information about how that family actually works, and shaming everyone who do not lean in the way she does.

Arianna Huffington is on a book tour right now telling women to forget about having it all and instead get some sleep. I have a feeling that Sheryl will be on a book tour in similar fashion. But, like Arianna, Sheryl will have to wait until her kids go to college, because taking care of kids is a lot of work.

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  1. KimS
    KimS says:

    Penelope
    As a doctor ( Internal Medicine/ Infectious Disease, also with pathology/autopsy experience), I want to weigh in strictly from a medical standpoint. I have no ties to the Sandberg/Goldberg families. The stated mechanism of death actually is plausible, that a middle aged overweight guy with silent coronary artery disease could have a massive heart attack while running on a treadmill. I would expect a person to fall off a treadmill if that happened, and that person could hit his head badly in process, and sustain fatal head trauma. The heart attack and the head injury would both be readily apparent on the autopsy.
    There may be some mysterious circumstances surrounding the death but again that mechanism is totally plausible to my ears. Weird freak unfortunate things happen every day.
    Im not going to speak ill of either Ms. Sandberg who has just gone through a horrible tragedy no matter how you slice it, nor Penelope who I think is a good as well as complicated person who is definitely bold to ask these questions and willing to be a lightning rod. We need these forces in the world too.
    Best, Kim

    • Casey
      Casey says:

      They could tell if he had a heart attack though and said he didn’t. And you haven’t addressed any of the reasons it is suspicious, like was his wife with him or not? Why a billionaire on day #1 of a vacation with “family and friends” not missed for three hours, etc.

  2. Flo
    Flo says:

    Thanks for your candor, Penelope. And, I agree with you that Sheryl Sandberg says “misleading” things to women. Love your blog! Boo to all of the trolls! I guess some ppl can’t handle the truth. Or, they just don’t like reality.

  3. Stacey
    Stacey says:

    I never read Sandberg’s book or felt that what she had to say was realistic for many women. But I have lost a husband. Suddenly, without warning. His lifeless body found by our then 15 year-old. A massive heart attack, gone instantly, thank god.
    So, for all the anguish Ms. Sandberg and her children are living right now, and will live with for months, maybe years, to come, I hope she sues you for defamation and your entire career circles the drain and winds up in the sewer where it belongs.
    What you’ve done is beneath any standard of human decency and was done not in an attempt to uncover secrets, as you claim, but as a way for you to garner the spotlight, on the backs of a grieving family that just happens to be headed by two famous and successful people. May your sons never be affected by your mean-spirited displays of opportunism but rather, grow up as empathetic human beings who value kindness and support of their fellow human beings in times of great sorrow. You owe the Goldberg/Sandberg family an apology.

    • Casey
      Casey says:

      So does Sheryl Sanberg owe this family (and coutless others) an apology for how their lives are news fodder thanks to facebook? And what about all the morbid photos of the crash site – you must be very bust writing all those angry letters!

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3073731/Small-plane-crashes-Atlanta-interstate-takeoff.html

      How about all the people who have lost jobs because it turns out deleted Fb photos are still accessible? I could go on. And on. Many of us wish we have such control over our public images. Yet here you are, a nobody, fighting for the privacy rights of a family partially responsible for everyone else’s loss of privacy. What a joke.

      The cause of death of a public figure under suspicious circumstances is everybody’s business.

  4. Marissa
    Marissa says:

    What the what? I read your first article and thought you were just kind of seizing an internet opportunity. Now you just seem crazy. Do women really have to go on, and on, and on…tearing themselves and each other apart? You don’t want to Lean In – don’t. You don’t understand Lean In – fine. Criticize it all you want. But I think we could all agree that losing one’s spouse is one of the most terrible things that can happen to someone. And the thing is, that part doesn’t change, no matter how they died. So have a little shred of empathy. Second, you are now going to insult the guys weight? And heart disease being the same as suicide? Have you heard of congenital heart disease? Enjoy your own successes, write about the opinions and aspects of the world you want to criticize…but let’s elevate this conversation out of the relm of 16 year old girls snickering in a bathroom…

  5. Richard Manross
    Richard Manross says:

    Mental illness does run in the family. Your questions and rantings prove it. Usually a stalker keeps her stalking quiet but I guess you never thought of that. You write from home so you can be with your kids all day. I hope people stop buying your stories so you have to get a job away from home. So you get the feeling of have to leave home everyday and leave your kids behind. At least you could have waited a few months for more info to come out. If he had died at home all your questions would have been answered like Robin Williams death. He was in a foreign country that though they are right next door info doesn’t flow freely. I do believe a heart attack caused by exercising with a blow to the head when he fell could be fatal. Since most people go to mexico other then to exercise I do believe he might not be found for hours. But I am being logical and not speculative.

    • Casey
      Casey says:

      You cannot miss evidence of a heart attack during an autopsy. He did not have a heart attack, that was already announced. They are not saying he had a heart attack now, either they are planting stories about “heart arrythmia” in “new autopsy reports” but that is something you CANNOT see in an autopsy. So it is fake spin, and clearly he died from a blow to the head.

      • jessica
        jessica says:

        I think his gf/other woman/ whatever knocked him off to steal some cash or something. Who knows.

        Sheryl will be dammed if that indiscretion stops or slows her career.

        • Casey
          Casey says:

          Well if she runs for political office the question will be there. And will she then be able to control the media? Someone has to talk, or does Facebook run the world now that they have power over everyone else (if information is power they have it) they even run experiements on us…

    • Passingby
      Passingby says:

      Why bring up her kids. That’s as tacky and cold as what you are mad at her for. And actually most stalkers are not quiet about if

  6. PA
    PA says:

    Penelope is tapping into her intuition. When things don’t seem right or correct it’s right to be a skeptic and ask questions. Penelope you are completely legitimate in asking the hard questions and you are validated in my eyes. The media feeds half truths all the time, just yesterday I read an article on Business Insider about the lies Obama fed the American people surrounding Osama bin Laden…another story that had sketchy reporting all over it.

    • Mark
      Mark says:

      It’s fine to ask questions, even challenge the apparent version of events but why do it with such venomous Schadenfreude?

      • Passingby
        Passingby says:

        Honestly it’s bizarre to question cause of death here and I attribute it to her cited memory. We all project sometimes. I think sadly penelope wanted the tragedy to be worse because she finds Sheryl sandberg irritating and enviable both. Again this could’ve been addressed cogently not after a tragedy. All the people leaving Penelope will return to find something else to be outraged at

  7. Catherine
    Catherine says:

    Unbelievable. I have followed Penelope for years but this is where it ends. Unsubscribing.

    • Passingby
      Passingby says:

      You follow her because she speaks her mind even when it’s ugly and jealous. It was terribly cruel but the morality police here is a wee bizarre. No one knows the sandbergs personally.

  8. jessica
    jessica says:

    Sheryl is back at work.

    While this comment section has identified issues with the story of Dave, other news sources comment’s sections are displaying the same back and forth information about the death. Including the newsworthy story of Sheryl back in the office.

    So while everyone wants to jump on P, she’s just the writer willing to say what a load of people are thinking.

    • Passingby
      Passingby says:

      She defines herself by her career. Or maybe it helps her cope. I can see a family member judging that bc maybe they think the kids need her home but why should we judge. Totally no ones business.

  9. Mike D
    Mike D says:

    Facebook is the NSA’s private contractor. Every scrap of information is relentlessly sold to Governments and Corporations. Location Data, relationship status data, buying habits, friends and associates. When employers conduct background checks, all you old embarrassing photos, long since deleted, somehow end up on the shelf of Sheryl and Mark’s bazaar. I kind of like the idea that Penelope has used this obviously BS cover story of Dave Goldberg’s passing as a way to expose the entire web of lies and deceit that is Facebook.

  10. Marla Miller
    Marla Miller says:

    I also have doubts about hearing the true story and do wonder if Lean In and the film being made factor in BUT to even suggest things like suicide….
    not cool.
    Penelope, your literary license should be fined.

  11. Jack locker
    Jack locker says:

    Lean in and lick my balls. What do you think gives you the right to to talk of david this way during his time of dying? List any and all things he ever said or did to you or anyone that gives you the right to disrespect him and his fam? Fuck you and your us mainstream media culture of death you suck up to.

    • footlocker
      footlocker says:

      Hey, Jack, don’t be shy and withholding: Tell us how you really feel! It’s just not that clear: do you think Ms. Trunk should have written more, um, delicately? I believe we need to undergo some anger management. Surely, young man, you are capable of expressing yourself in a more mature way, one in which your message might be thoughtfully received. And while we’re about it, let’s accord the deceased a modicum of respect, not calling him by his given name but, perhaps, “Mr. Goldberg.” “What do you think gives you the right to talk of” him as if he was a close friend or relation? Really, Jack. . . .

    • Passingby
      Passingby says:

      This post was kind of funny. First name basis w the deceased. I like the one where Penelope should apologize to the sandbergs. Do you seriouslu think they read this? Maybe that’s the point of envy. Look everyone here is drawn to Penelope’s writing because it’s brutal and almost everyone here sees that Penelope is foaming with jealousy and went a little off the deep end. So do we all

  12. Max Baer
    Max Baer says:

    Now that the dust has settled, and it’s manifestly clear that Dave Goldberg died tragically after falling from a treadmill, it’s time for Penelope Trunk to cease her malevolent speculation and issue a retraction. Whether Dave’s fall from the treadmill was precipitated by a heart arrhythmia that caused him to lose consciousness may never be known. But what is irrefutably clear is that he did not commit suicide, and it’s ludicrous for Ms. Trunk to assert that “It’s a fine line between a heart attack and a suicide.” Nothing could be further from the truth. Ms. Trunk’s intimations of suicide before all the facts were in suggests a predisposition on her part to jump to conclusions based on her own biases and jealousies. She should be ashamed.

    • Mark
      Mark says:

      Yes, I fully agree and think this is such a blatant instance of Schadenfreude on Penelope’s part. There such a virulent agenda she’s tainted with. Nevertheless, I’ll give her a few points for allowing feedback on the blogs she wrote regardless of whether it agreed with her own stance.

    • Casey
      Casey says:

      Lol it’s not clear at all it’s still completely murky. Absolutely no details have emerged and you can’t tell arrythmia from an autopsy, that’s pure conjecture. There have been no credible reports that he had a heart condition. He died from a head wound on the lower back of his head. It was too small to plausibly cause him to bleed to death. It was internal bleeding into the brain killing him in minutes probably.

      this would need considerable force, making an accident even more unlikely. I agree it makes suicide unlikely as well, and that leaves homicide. Don’t you think the possibility that a CEO was murdered in Mexico is newsworthy? In any event if this were any other story in the entire world we would have many more details in a high profile, freak accident case like this. The statement said there was no sign of foul play because there was no sign of resistance well obviously he was hit in the back of the head with a heavy implement, taken by surprise.

      It’s all conjecture of course precisely because we have no information. We still have no idea if S.S. was even with him in Mexico! And they keep planting stories like the one about arrythmia, it’s ridiculously transparent.

      • Mark
        Mark says:

        Your last sentence about the arrythmia being “ridiculously transparent” is itself a blatant illustration of the conjecture you ascribe to the media reports. And in the previous paragraph where you claim “he was obviously hit in the back of the head with a heavy implement”, what evidence for that?(other than this conjecture on your part).

    • Passingby
      Passingby says:

      I think she was just scarred by the uncle event. It’s the least offensive thing here. If penelope who is a wonderful writer had made this case some of it meaningful some of it clearly petty and jealous BEFORE this poor man passed away it would’ve been different.

  13. Lydia L.P.
    Lydia L.P. says:

    What I don’t understand is this! In the USA you cannot be in a exercise facility completely “ALONE” for these reasons, you could get hurt and die if help doesn’t arrive in time! It was said that Dave went to exercise around 4:00 pm, and his brother didn’t go looking for him till 3 hours later! So no one else was around for all of this time? Not one other person needed to exercise in the middle of the day at a hotel facility?! I was traveling for vacation once at a chain hotel with a small exercise room, and I had to go to the desk and ask for someone to get a key to unlock the room, and I had to put my name down on a sign in sheet! I still cannotl believe he was alone for 3 hours! Bad policy, they need to change that in other countries! Scary! :( So sad for him!

    • Max Baer
      Max Baer says:

      This is one of the ironic disadvantages of staying at an ultra-exclusive private resort like the Palmasola, whose workout room is so tiny that no attendant is assigned to it. Had Dave Goldberg and family been staying at the adjacent Four Seasons Resort Punta Mita, a posh full service establishment with attendants on duty in the workout facilities, he would have likely been discovered immediately following his fall, and may well have survived.

  14. Martha
    Martha says:

    You are so wrong; hopefully your audience is shrinking! You are now not posting critical comments (they are “moderated”, never posted), another sign of your complete lack of integrity!

  15. celeste
    celeste says:

    I think this whole issue is best left to investigative officials and/or reporters. Speculation by the uninformed is a pointless exercise, no matter who the victims are.
    What concerns me about this post are the non-validated points given as facts, such as “gaining that much weight is a sign of serious ” and “Heart attack is a disease of lifestyle. It is preventable.” The tone of “gaining that much weight” seemed to imply that the husband had psychological/social problems that led to weight gain, when there was no such data to support that conclusion. Weight gain does not necessarily indicate a psychological issue; it can be medication or thyroid related, hormonally induced or caused by fluid retention.
    The statement that heart attacks are a lifestyle disease is also not necessarily true. Type 1 diabetes can cause heart damage leading to a heart attack, as can bronchitis or asthma. (My father died of a heart attack at age 93; I wonder what lifestyle choice he could have made differently?)
    Positing absolutes makes for exciting writing but it is not good journalism.

  16. Anne Taylor
    Anne Taylor says:

    You are a vulture. I feel sorry for your children whom you homeschool. I hope the state where you live finds you mentally incompetent to be the sole educator of your chlidren and if you are married, I hope your husband finds a decent woman and ditches you.

  17. Sarah
    Sarah says:

    Well done for using someone’s death to get more hits on your blog. Maybe Sheryl can just go to business school to find a new rich husband, as you suggested in your other terrible post “blue print”.
    By the way, single women have the lowest rate of depression, then it’s married men, then married women, with the highest rate of depression and suicide in single men.
    I hope the way you’re living your life and the message you’re spreading makes you really happy, but I find it hard to believe that someone who expresses so much jealousy can be in any way content with their life.

  18. Passingby
    Passingby says:

    Wow. I just read this oldie. Penelope most readers admire you. After someone’s spouse passes, it’s an awful time for spite and envy no?

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