How to bounce back (again and again)

I smashed a lamp over my head. There was blood everywhere. And glass. And I took a picture.

I think my life is getting better because it used to be that I wrote everything. In order to cope. Now I can take pictures. So I have two coping mechanisms.

The best way to judge someone is not by setbacks, but by bounce-backs. I am good at judging people this way. I think this is because I’m good at bouncing back. From stuff people think no one can bounce from. I can still bounce. Here’s how:

1. Get perspective about what is big and what is small.
This is not the first time I have put a gash in my head on purpose. I did it when I had postpartum depression. The situation now is remarkably similar.

I told the farmer that he needs to take care of his hands better. That’s where the fight started.

“I hate hand cream,” he said. “It makes my hands greasy all day.”

“It’s dysfunctional to walk around with bleeding hands.”

“This isn’t normal. It’s because I was so nervous around you and your mom fighting in New York.”

“You have it all the time. All winter. You told me you do. It’s your job to fix it. You have to take care of yourself. You have to be a better model for the kids.”

He says, “I’m sorry I don’t take care of my hands how you want me to.”

I say, “Forget it. This is crazy. I don’t care about your hands.”

Then we talk about money. I spent too much money on our trip to New York. He is sick of me not being able to stick to a budget. And, to tell you the truth, I am sick of it, too. My inability to stick to a budget is like him not putting cream on his hands: Total incompetence.

The thing is that the money problems make me nuts, and they make him nuts. The hands, really, are not as big a deal.

2. Tell yourself a story of how you got to where you are, so it makes sense.
So we skip to the discussion of how I feel like I’m alone with the money problems because we agreed before I moved to the farm that he would not be responsible for the kids or the money.

Don’t tell me it was a crazy agreement to make. It’s water over the bridge. Or under. I can’t remember the saying.

So I tell him I feel alone. I tell him that for maybe five minutes straight, because he is saying nothing.

Then we do our normal routine: I say I am lonely and feel like he’s not really with me.

He gets angry because he thinks he’s given up everything for me.

My abandonment issues flare even more when he is angry at me for saying I’m lonely.

I cry.

He hates me when I cry.

I hate myself for being with someone who hates me.

You can see the spiral, right? It’s just a question of how much I hate myself.

Today it was a lot. I hate myself because I could have used the money I spent on the New York trip as a fund so that I could leave the farm. I don’t even know how I’d leave. I mean, I know I’m capable of leaving, but I don’t know what I’d leave to. What I’d go toward.

Those of you with empathy understand how it is such a short step to the lamp crashing into my head.

Then the farmer left.

3. Understand opposing points of view to your own.
People always ask how the farmer puts up with me telling our lives on the blog. What he really hates is that I get to tell the story. The story of us. Here are things he thinks you don’t know. He thinks I leave this stuff out and it’s not fair.

I am crazy. More crazy than you know from the blog.

I am very needy. I have abandonment issues and I never feel loved.

I am bad with money. Crazy bad with money. Great at earning it, terrible at managing it.

But I know you all know those things because I’ve already posted about them:

Craziness: Here’s the post where I go nuts over a tweet some guy directed to me.

Abandonment issues: Here’s the post where I describe the genesis of my neediness issues.

Money issues: Here’s the post where my electricity gets turned off.

He feels sorry for himself that he got into this mess with me. He thinks he gave up everything for me and I’m totally ungrateful.

So I spent the day trying to avoid my ex, who spends Sundays at our house with the kids. Then, when the coast is clear, I traipse over broken glass and crawl into bed and hope I sleep forever. Not forever in a way that would mean my kids have no mother. But forever in a way where it sort of approximates death in an I-need-a-break way but then I’m still a good mom.

4. Compartmentalize. For sanity’s sake.
Can you be a good mom and break a lamp over your head? Maybe that is the crux of this post. Or maybe it is “Can you be a good career advisor and still break a lamp over your head?”

Actually, I think the scary thing is that the answer to both questions is yes. Compartmentalizing in moderation is actually useful life skill. I know because I’m terrible at it.

But look at the CEOs who are never home with their kids. They are terrible parents but great at their career.

And look at the stay-at-home-baking-cookies moms who are addicted to shopping, or valium, or cheating on their husbands. It’s entirely possible that these women could be great moms. Maybe you have until 3pm to be dysfunctional: What you do before school gets out can be separate from what you do after school gets out.

Anyway, here’s some career advice: Try to keep your career on track and your personal life on track. You’ll never have both, but your career is a sort of safety net. If all you have is your personal life then if it’s going bad, everything in your life is bad. Your career isn’t as important as your personal life, but it’s a nice distraction.

See? It’s working for me right now: I’d probably be bashing another lamp against my head if I didn’t have a blog to maintain.

5. Protect the parts of your life that you can.
When the ex left, the farmer and I started fighting again. We had to fight around the kids. They watched CatDog and we argued.

He asked me if I’m cleaning up the glass. If this were a novel that you were assigned to read for school, there would be this essay question:

Compare and contrast the two knock-down-drag-out fights Penelope had with the farmer after he asked her if she is cleaning up glass.

If you were a good student, you’d remember the chapter where I break a window and end up at the police station.

Back to this time: I tell him I’m not cleaning up the glass.

I meant to tell him that I like the visual metaphor of broken glass surrounding our bed. But I didn’t say that. I said, “I don’t care. I’m tired of trying to do nice things for you.”

It’s hard to argue that cleaning up the glass is doing something nice for him. This might be supporting evidence for the farmer’s contention that I am crazy. But in fact, I know from the last argument over broken glass that he cares about it way more than I do.

So I tell him that I’m not cleaning up the glass. And then, I don’t know what happens. Well, first, the kids ask to watch another episode of CatDog and I say okay.

6. Re-use tools that have worked for you in the past. Abandon those that never work.
In the twenty minutes we gain from more CatDog, the farmer and I are able to establish that he is done with the relationship and he is going to sleep at his parents house.

I decide I have to keep him home. I don’t know why. I mean, I guess my instinct is that if he runs to his parents when we have a fight then it’s for sure that he is not really with me. I’m sort of like a fair-weather friend that he keeps around to supplement his relationship with his parents—which, I’m sure he’d say is more rewarding than his relationship with me.

Okay. So I panic that him going to his parents will solidify what I already know anyway. And I tell him I will not let him leave.

This immediately makes him want to leave more. The farmer’s biggest worry in life is that I will control him.

He tells me I can’t stop him.

I want to show him that actually, my specialty is keeping people from abandoning me.

Me: I’ll leave the house first and then if you leave, it’ll be child abandonment.

Him: I’ll take the kids to child services.

Me: What will you tell them? My wife won’t sweep up the floor in our bedroom so I can’t stay in the house and I have to give the kids away? Really? Do that. I’m dying to see that. Should I pack the kids’ clothes for them? Because if you do that, they’ll go to foster care.

I know you think I sound crazy, but the farmer’s way of dealing with me—his way to get me to shut up—is to threaten me. So I have taken to calling his bluff. I have noticed that almost every time it works. Like, just two days ago he told me he wouldn’t talk with me in the middle of a long drive home unless I want to stop and get a hotel room for the night so we have time to talk. And I said fine. Let’s get a hotel room. And he didn’t want to.

Okay. So the kids do not go to child services, but I worry that he’ll go to his parents house.

So I move my car to block in his car so he can’t leave.

He could walk though. Or take the fifty other farm vehicles. And it’s totally pathetic that I’m trying to force him to stay with me.

So the farmer is sleeping at his parents house. I don’t know what I’m doing. I’m here. With the kids. I’m in the middle of nowhere with no support system. I mean, if I wanted to sleep somewhere else I don’t even have anywhere.

But I wouldn’t want to sleep somewhere else. I traveled every week for a year. And I missed the kids. And I wanted to be attached to home and family more than my booming career. So I moved here.

But I don’t know what I’m doing here. Scaling back. Scaling back a career so that all that’s left is family time, and family values. It is not working.

I see all these new year’s resolutions people are making:

Eat dinner as a family more often.

Go out to eat less frequently.

Plant a garden.

Turn off the TV.

All these things are easy to do on the farm. I need a new year’s resolution to make sure my career does not go to hell while my personal life has. I need a safety net.

The reason I started writing career advice is not because this is my dream job. I mean, who dreams of growing up and writing career advice? I became passionate about the advice, though, when it became apparent to me that each time I had a personal crisis, my career is what helped me rescue myself.

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  1. Beckie
    Beckie says:

    You help me so much with your honesty about what you experience. I think some folks don’t get why you post what you do. I for one appreciate it. I think it isn’t about what happens in your life, rather it’s how you deal with it; with all of it. Best, Beckie.

  2. Jenn
    Jenn says:

    Maybe you should write back and forth with the farmer….seems you can express yourself better when you write and not speak so impulsively.

    Yes we all have these days… some rougher then others.

  3. emily
    emily says:

    Hi Penelope,
    I wonder if what you actually want is to give up your old definition of yourself and how important a “career” was to you at one point in your life. You live the pioneer woman – why not model your life after hers? As a NY corporate woman in her 30’s I understand why this suggestion is difficult to take seriously. Brilliant writing, btw.

    P.S. Finger Picking is a form of self hard. What is the farmer going through that he can’t talk about? I’m sure it’s not your fault.

  4. Geli
    Geli says:

    Don’t fault the farmer for having his wounds licked at
    his parents house. Everyone needs a sounding board:
    yours is the blog, his are his parents. You obviously love each other, otherwise you wouldn’t argue as much as you do. You’re defining your boundaries, your strength and your limitations in your relationship. Coming from such different backgrounds as you and the farmer do, there is bound to be friction. The key is to find a common ground where you both can live with.
    Don’t give up that easily!

  5. Chris M.
    Chris M. says:

    You know what scares me here? The number of commenters saying “thank you for exposing what we all go through”.

    Huh? Yes, most of us will have ups and downs. I’ve been married for almost 20 years and there were a couple of occasions I seriously considered getting a divorce, and both my husband and I got really sad about the prospect. Sometimes I feel like I have the worse job in the world. I have friends who went through cancer treatments that made them depressed and debilitated for a while. Etc. etc. In none of these cases, there was any hint of self-inflicted injury by anyone involved.

    No, we don’t all go through stuff like hurting ourselves on purpose, so I’ll echo what Celine said: “it’s about not enabling an unstable person write about this and think it’s OK. It is not. P. needs a hospital, not a bunch of well wishers and agreeable followers”.

    My mother had depression from time to time, and my siblings and I suffered a lot even though the only thing she’d do was to sleep a lot. I can’t imagine the pain for your kids, Penelope, so I think it’s time for you to get a different type of help than the one you’ve been getting, because, from the outside, it doesn’t seem to be working.

  6. Stacey
    Stacey says:

    Wow. When I used to act like this, I called it “shooting myself in the foot.” But I never actually shot myself in my foot. But you actually broke a lamp over your head? Wow.

    And as long as we are talking about honesty, my honest thought when reading this post was “Penelope, snap out of it! Stop doing this to yourself!”

  7. Ron
    Ron says:

    Interesting to read the comments and guess the gender before getting to the names (which are imperfect indicators). My tentative conclusion is, in general, your female readers are more concerned for your children’s and your well being, more sympathetic to your grievances, and more appreciative of your authenticity.

    I share their concern and appreciation, but suspect the only way forward is if both of you sincerely conclude you’re equally responsible for the problems.

    Guy’s comment that he survived his first year of marriage by continually choosing his wife really resonated with me as did the suggestion to write back and forth.

    One thing I can’t shake though is how I’d feel if I my wife detailed the arguments we’ve had the last few days for everyone with an internet connection to read. Don’t know how he manages that.

    Here’s hoping that calm prevails and you choose whatever you deem is in your children’s best interest.

  8. mm
    mm says:

    Hi Penelope,
    I thought this was a great column and I hope it made you feel better to write it. FWIW you don’t sound crazy to me….Crazy people usually lack self awareness while you are quite the opposite. Your outbursts and behavior might push people outside their comfort zone but that is ok. You are also capable of calming down, assessing what you’ve done and reflect on why you did it. I for one appreciate your honesty and your ability to write about it. Thanks for sharing such personal stories with a fresh and honest voice.

  9. intan house
    intan house says:

    Dear Penelope,
    I can’t say much except that you take care of yourself…

    I hope that things will be OK for you, the children are fine and the farmer will come home. You take care and we love reading your blog..

  10. Laura
    Laura says:

    He went to sleep at his parents because he doesn’t want you to control him? Interesting.
    Relationships are challenging. My husband and I have been together for about 13 years (3 dating)almost 10 married. Anything can be hard….although I haven’t smashed a lamp (may have thought about it) I think that staying and working it out is the most important thing. There have been times when I have just gotten in the car and driven….and calmed down and then come home and talked about whatever the problem was. But that is what we do, we talk, analyse and separate whatever issue it is and then discuss more. Rather like beating a dead horse (not a good allegory, but the only one I could think of). I think the new life is overwhelming to all of you, he is getting used to having kids around 24/7 you tow are adjusting to a comittment and there are stress issues with work….sounds like a normal relationship with a blended family. Just breathe…and no one is judging you.
    “Those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.”
    Just breathe…..that’s it….breathe.

  11. dottie
    dottie says:

    I am sorry. I feel like I am losing it too. I have a good job, great kids, nice husband, but he’s boring and I bear all the real responsibility. In the end, it’s the moms who really know what’s going on with the kids in the vast majority of cases. So even if you throw yourself into work, you are still the one who knows what needs to be done at home and this is a huge burden on top of work. Guys cruise through life cluelessly while we take on all the stress. It sucks; at this point, I don’t think we really need them, and I don’t think your lifestyle or husband is a great fit. It sounds like he doesn’t give any energy back. I keep telling my husband I don’t need him and don’t want him. I’m not saying I am such a prize, but I am self-sufficient and in some ways it would be easier to be on my own and hire the help I need, instead of try to get him to help when he is often not competent. I think in many ways we are just better off without them. Get a vibrator and move on.

  12. Colleen
    Colleen says:

    Like you, I am a city girl in a tumultuous marriage with a farmer. My farmer also hates me when I cry. Actually disgust is probably a more appropriate description. From a prior post, you accurately noted that farmers value hard work. Likewise, driven by a “survival of the fittest” mentality, they despise weakness. Since they associate crying with weakness, farmers are repulsed by this behavior and are emotionally unable to reach out with any nurturing or support. If you choose to stay with him, the only thing that will garner his respect is a tough exterior, even if it’s a ruse.

  13. Kim Anami
    Kim Anami says:

    This is my favorite blog on the internet because it features a real human. The "intersection of work and life" no longer applies here? Do you not think that high-functioning, uber-successful people mask a host of personal issues from alcoholism, to infidelity to serial triple-bypass surgeries that they never share publicly? This doesn't mean they don't have them; it only means they pretend not to. What is fascinating to know is how people overcome these issues that WE ALL HAVE. In the collective sharing, we experience the pain, poignancy and hope of being human. Together.

    The major difference between the other symptoms of psychological and emotional stress I just mentioned and Penelope smashing a lamp over her head, is that they are culturally sanctioned and perceived as things that "just happen to us." It's socially acceptable to get cancer. It's socially acceptable to be an alcoholic. It's socially acceptable to be 50 pounds overweight. No one harps on someone who has cancer and tells them to stop whining and get some help. No one says: "Your manipulative and passive aggressive tendencies brought this on you." Our pharma-cratic culture brainwashes people to think that certain (if not most) illnesses just befall us and we bear no personal responsibility in their contraction nor in their healing.

    We all need "psychological help." Meaning, we all have our own blind spots and we all need unbiased, objective people to help us illuminate them. Rarely can friends and family do this for us because they are too tied into the results and it's hard to straight talk to the ones we love. Unfortunately, we live in a society where obtaining "psychological help," which is simply the conscious pursuit of self-awareness, is also condemned as something that only truly mentally unwell people do. In contrast, what's seen as more "normal" is people getting their breasts cut off, their uteruses taken out or their intestines chopped in half.

    People get a sense of exhilaration reading this blog because Penelope bares it all and doesn't pretend. Yep, she may need help to see past her own blocks, but don't we all.

  14. Heather
    Heather says:

    I am also going through a difficult time and I’ve had a few dark, painful moments lately. I am not alone; your post confirms this. Thank you for sharing because there is such a tendency in society to just dismiss episodes like this as “something that only happens to crazy people who should be locked up.” Not helpful, not productive. How can we learn as if problems and moments of personal failure are swept under the carpet? I’m sad that a few commentators have chosen to simply “kick you while you’re down.” Many of us have had difficult, sometimes excruciating, times, but few of us are so brave as to talk about them so honestly. Let us not be so afraid to show weakness and emotion. Thank you for giving us a window into the mind of another suffering, feeling human being. I hope you feel better soon, Penelope.

  15. Irving Podolsky
    Irving Podolsky says:

    When blog comments become as provocative as the post, and even more so, it’s apparent you are chiseling through our shells into truth.

    Yesterday morning I read your story. I couldn’t think of a single constructive comment. This crisis is too complicated, too sensitive, too exposed to find a solution inside a thousand words. So I stepped away, but kept you in my thoughts.

    Then, last night, with your life still seated in my heart, I asked my wife to read your story. We discussed your plight, the farmer, the color of your walls, your children, Wisconsin, and all that you represent. Minutes passes, carrying us to midnight and beyond. Eventually we spooned under the covers, feeling grateful that we had found each other and escaped loneliness. I rolled away from her and turned off the light. It was okay to find sleep. We were together.

    Today I awoke depressed but came home happy. I made that happen. I don’t always succeed. But I felt positive enough to touch your story again, by continuing to read the added comments. Rarely do I find such raw honesty published for me and the world to ingest. It’s not always happy. But it’s real.

    Penelope, I do understand. You are deeply in pain. But you also express, on our behalf, the disconnect from the human soul. Yet this exposure is positive, for how can we find our way home if we don’t admit we are lost? You coax us to face our dragons, even as we deny they exist. You remind us, in scalding ways, that we all are in some ways, broken, and in this way we are ONE. Ultimately though, you provoke thought about who we are and where we’re going, as you contemplate that mystery yourself.

    So I don’t know if you actually crashed a lamp on your head or threw it on the floor. It doesn’t matter. The truth of your need rings out, beckoning us to sing our own songs of longing and despair. And sing we do.

    Thank you.

    Irv

  16. dl
    dl says:

    I keep coming back to this post and rereading the comments. Sometimes I wonder if Penelope is simply an awesome fictional writer and we’re all suckers? Or is she really that far off the wall? But mostly, I wonder about the comments. Like someone said above, it’s alarming how many people appreciate this post because they too have experienced such turmoil.

    I find it interesting how irritated people are by what they perceive as “self-righteous advice.” They’re pissed because “obviously the advice givers have never experienced the bad life they have.”

    Maybe there’s a parallel here. But before you get all pissy at me, let me explain.

    Maybe the advice isn’t so self-righteous. Actually, lots of it is pretty good and we readers could use it for ourselves. You know, things like putting our spouse’s needs before our own, treating others the same way we want to be treated, taking responsibility for our own actions no matter what…this is all good advice. To you who are so angry with this advice, perhaps if your parents had lived accordingly, your experiences would not have been so negative. And perhaps if you can now live accordingly, your children can avoid such problems in their future.

    I know this sounds self-righteous. And yes, I know every family has problems. But it’s important to know there are lots and lots of families who do not have such extreme problems. Maturity and stability are not a complete myths. It can be done and lots of families are doing so.

    Instead of automatically taking offense by the advice, consider that maybe there’s some reasoning to it. If we reach out and help one another, if we allow others to help us, we then can make life better for our children.

  17. Shandra
    Shandra says:

    I’m having my own minor crazy time so I appreciated the openness a lot this morning.

    Not exactly advice but here is a story about my marriage. We had been married over ten years when my son was born. At the nine month mark of parenting we hit a really low point and my husband, who is one of the least acting-out type people I know, turned away from me during an argument and threw a shoe down the hall…and through the window next to our front door.

    I packed a bag and said I was taking the baby while he calmed down. He said pretty furiously that he assumed I was going to my parents and I said no to a hotel and just for one night. That, for whatever reason, calmed it down. No one went anywhere. And the next day I called the glass guys. My husband was kinda floored that I called rather than making him do it.

    But the thing is, I’d learned that capacity – to see him, not the glass – from him. From the way he would bring me tea cause my throat hurt from yelling during a fight (that was as the 7 year mark). It -certainly- did not come factory-installed on me or even our marriage. And it wouldn’t work if, over time, it didn’t work both ways ( I picked the glass story).

    I don’t know how it will go down for you

  18. Shandra
    Shandra says:

    … But I hope y’all figure it out. And yes if you’re the one still home, clean up the glass. :)

  19. MyWifeThinksImADonkey
    MyWifeThinksImADonkey says:

    You shouldn’t be hitting yourself with something breakable. Next time, try a cast iron skillet.

    • Jens Fiederer
      Jens Fiederer says:

      I think the breakage is part of the appeal. I lose my temper about once every ten years or so, and once threw a water glass at the wall only about a foot from the window where my wife threw the cordless phone in my other anecdote (she had been giving me a hard time for buying the wrong color paint).

      The glass bounced off the wall, leaving a noticeable dent, and landed on the carpet, unharmed. It wasn’t a wimpy throw, it was thick, solid glass, but it left me feeling dreadfully disappointed somehow. I stomped upstairs in a huff and unintentionally ripped the railing out of the wall.

  20. hlcs
    hlcs says:

    Thank you for sharing this, Penelope. I look forward to reading about how you overcame this.

    In the meantime, you may want to buy him a bottle of Surgeon’s Skin Secret moisturizer. It was developed for surgeons who scrub their hands multiple times a day and need a good moisturizer that does not leave their hands greasy. I used to take care of my family’s horses and would get dry, cracked knuckles too until I used this moisturizer. *I do not work for this company, I just love the product.

  21. Lisa Best
    Lisa Best says:

    Keep writing and find a great therapist to talk to, even if you have to travel to get to the appointments. You are entitled to a happy life, as are your kids and the farmer. You two may not stay together and that is OK. I always found it strange he was “the farmer”, not even a name. Life is constantly readjusting your Mind. You have a good one so you will make it.

    Be well,
    Lisa

  22. Backpack Cooler
    Backpack Cooler says:

    Another good way of bouncing back and “keeping perspective” would be to volunteer and see how much worse other people have it. It might not make you necessarily feel better but it might help in the perspective sense. Also, it’s a lot less painful than whacking yourself in the hand or head. That hurts!

    • EngineerChic
      EngineerChic says:

      Your advice to volunteer in order to gain perspective is misguided. What charity is helped by someone who needs more than they can give? P is suffering from some form of mental illness that could be depression, bipolar disorder, or something else. Do you want someone who is struggling to control their own emotional problems to volunteer to help underpriveledged kids or keep senior citizens company? Those types of jobs require someone who is in a place to GIVE out of their own STRENGTH.

      The other reason your advice is misguided is that it is a thinly veiled way of saying, “Your life is actually really good, and you are just being a whiny bitch.” How do you know that? I bet 5 years ago my life looked great from the outside – I had a new job, got to travel the world, and lived in a decent house we were fixing up. Peel back ONE freaking layer and you’d find out my husband was leaving for 9 months of military service. Peel back another – my father was dying of cancer. Peel back another – you’d learn my dad was an ill-tempered alcoholic that I hadn’t talked to for about 10 years. And my sister still refused to talk to. And my mom, who I am very close with, was seething with anger that I was taking care of him after he’d left us so many years ago.

      But to you, I bet everything would have looked fabulous and I should have just started volunteering to get some perspective on how wonderful my life was just then.

      When someone says they are hurting or struggling the only correct responses are:
      1- I’m sorry, I can’t help you.
      2- I’m sorry, how can I help you?

  23. Kathryn (@kat1124)
    Kathryn (@kat1124) says:

    Penelope…you’re never going to resolve your abandonment issues through another person. No man will ever be able to put those fears to rest; you have to do it yourself. Or you can keep beating your head against that wall but I’m telling you from a lifetime of experience, at some point you just have to realize it isn’t a fixable thing. It’s an overcomeable thing, but if you don’t stop acting out the abandonment issue in your relationships, nothing gets better.

    Learn to let go, whether it’s during an argument or when you think someone is walking out for good. Just stop yourself from bringing the crazy when you feel lonely or abandoned, it doesn’t help or make anything better or teach you anything.

  24. Karen
    Karen says:

    This is obviously a sad situation, and perhaps frightening for the kids involved. One of the things that caught my attention in the reported conversation with the farmer is that he said the fighting between you and your mother made him nervous. You do not respond to this. I’m not sure what the reasons are for the lack of response, but it seems important to examine and understand.

  25. downfromtheledge
    downfromtheledge says:

    People. Seriously. I could shake you.

    Quit telling her what cream she’s gotta give to the Farmer. The whole blasted point is that it wouldn’t matter if the Eskimos use it, because it isn’t about the cream. This is a power struggle through and through.

    If it comes at P’s suggestion, prodding, encouragement … the Farmer would rather bleed to death one trickle at a time than do anything that would imply she “wins.”

    Is it possible there’s far more dysfunction in some families where all the lamps are neatly intact and nobody’s moving the cars around in the driveway? The broken glass is symbolic.

    And for anyone who thinks you are “helping” a depressed person with your condescending remarks and cliches, I wrote this post for you (actually, for people who have to listen to people like you):
    http://downfromtheledge.blogspot.com/2009/12/this-too-shall-pass.html

    REALLY, you think you’re helping?? REALLY, what she needs in her moment of powerlessness is your patronizing???

    • Shayl
      Shayl says:

      I know you’re just trying to help, but it’s a little obnoxious and self-serving to advertise your blog here. Be a little humble and offer to privately send it to people if you really want to practice what you preach.

      • downfromtheledge
        downfromtheledge says:

        What’s obnoxious is your patronizing comment and the intention behind it: to insult somebody, rather than contribute something productive…which is exactly what most of these commenters are doing to Penelope. Anyone who cares nothing of the topic of “why you shouldn’t spout useless cliches to someone in genuine pain” probably isn’t interested in clicking on the link, now are they? It’s always easier to render judgment and tear people down.

  26. Marié
    Marié says:

    Hi Penelope and Farmer
    If you suffered through all the comments to reach mine, you’re tough!
    The fact that Penelope wrote about this and the farmer has to read it before she published it- show that all is well on the farm in Madison- so your followers might stop worrying about you.

    I am sorry if you are in real pain- but the way you told it give me a lot of giggles- you surely are a marvelous writer and although I have only find your blog a few days ago- I am basically nailed to it- even when I am in the dairy (I also live on a farm- my coping mechanism is my quilting and to not take everything so serious).

    I don’t think you need therapy any more- seems your coping skills are well developed! ( braking the glass on your head not a good coping skill though but for once in ten years- and able to tell the story, not to bad.)

    Thanks for a wonderful captivating story- I am waiting eagerly for the next chapter!

  27. Sue
    Sue says:

    Since so many people recommended that you get professional help yet failed to read that you’ve been in therapy since you were 5, I’m interested to know what your therapist advised about this incident. What did she/he recommend?

    Having said that, I just wanted to let you know that the first year of marriage (legal or not) is very difficult. We expect the “honeymoon period” that we’re told about, yet we get just the opposite. Add parenting guilt, past abuse issues, and human flaws and frailties to the mix and we start smashing lamps.
    We criticize our spouses for their cracked hands and simultaneously ignore our own self-neglect. Penelope, what are you doing for yourself these days? You are unhappy with everything around you, but I suspect you are really just not happy with yourself. Ask yourself what you need right now. Do it. If you can’t, then find a way. If it seems impossible, then ask for help. The farmer would probably love to help you because it sounds like he just wants you to be happy.
    It’s not about the farm, the farmer, the kids (who just want Mommy to be happy too), or your career/blog. It’s about you and what you perceive that you’re missing. What is it that you want? Where would you go if $10,000 fell into your lap? Would you really leave?
    It took me the better part of my 17 year marriage to figure this out. I can’t change others but I can change me. I can also take care of me and not feel bad about it. It’s a “self-worth” thing. You know the expression “When Mom’s happy, everyone’s happy.”? What would make you happy?

    Pulling for you girl,
    Sue

  28. Kevin
    Kevin says:

    If they can make a show about $h*! My Dad Says then they certainly could do one on your and the farmer. “$h*! My Wife Blogs” maybe.

    • Passerby
      Passerby says:

      @ Kevin –
      Maybe producers from Bravo or MTV can see this potential reality tv mine gold. Heck, I’ll watch it. Better that the Real Wives of Atlanta or Jersey combined indeed!

  29. TwistedByKnaves
    TwistedByKnaves says:

    It’s a tricky one, this. If he really can’t stand the greasy feeling then maybe there is little to be done but endure. (I know where he’s coming from. But the way the grime sluices off at the end of the day is magical. And I do love to finish with a little magic.)

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts on using life and career as safety nets for one another. I haven’t seen this stated so cleanly before: right on the money. (Note to self: get a life.)

    And thanks, Dana, for your neat and cruel summary at 10.51.

  30. Hatch
    Hatch says:

    This post was alarming. Yes, we all have fights with our significant others, but smashing a lamp over your head is not a normal or healthy way of conducting an argument. Even if you find her candor inspiring, there can be no doubt that Penelope is very troubled. I worry that someday soon I’m going to log onto this blog, only to find that she’s done something way more serious to herself.

    • downfromtheledge
      downfromtheledge says:

      But…where did she say it IS healthy or normal or good for the kids? She actually implies (by referring back to her post-partum depression) that she *knows* she’s in trouble. Her post is ABOUT picking up and moving on … no matter what you’ve done that you don’t feel good about. Other people are out there breaking the lamp over their kids’ heads, for crying out loud. OF COURSE self-harm isn’t good. You know what’s worse? Shaming somebody who is obviously already their own worst enemy.

  31. Kathy
    Kathy says:

    Penelope…we could still find you that quiet corner in the shop. Bottom line: I think you should stick w/the farmer, otherwise you would be just like the rest of us, boring!!!! If you need to talk…call. Kathy

  32. Bernie
    Bernie says:

    Thanks for your openness about fights and lamps and hiding in cupboards at parties. I’m quite new to you but your posts are wise. Your truthfulness makes me feel less crazy and alone. Also proves that there are many ways to live a life. Focus on the next hour and know everything changes. Keep writing!

  33. Dennis
    Dennis says:

    I am a recently new reader to the blog and have always enjoyed reading all of them except this one, it sort of felt like watching a train about to wreck. I cared enough to keep reading, but felt worst with every sentence, this blog was at a very different level/tone than any of the past ones I have read. I could be way off base here, but I think you need to remove all the activities that remind you of being lonely, probably even therapy. I am not saying to avoid the issues that you are having, but to push yourself pass them…leave the issues behind and do not do stuff to remind you of the issues (again therapy). How about taking up some Farming activites with the Farmer…actually not just a few things…fully engage as if your career/life depended on it. If not anything else it will fill your days and give you something else to think about besides your issues…leave them on a different track!

  34. Jacqueline
    Jacqueline says:

    Regarding budgeting, perhaps you should turn over money management to the farmer and get yourself a pre-paid credit card that he reloads weekly with spending money that you can do whatever you want with. If that’s the only card you have access to, you won’t be able to go over-budget without getting him to agree with you that it really is very necessary to make an exception this time.

  35. Al
    Al says:

    Penelope,

    I think it would be a positive and helpful step for you to engage with friends, relatives, neighbors, etc., and find out that you have a lot of friends and others who want the very best for you that life has to offer. To continue with the same way of doing things and expecting different results will only cause you more pain and stress. You have a wealth of friends and a huge number of fans cheering you on. Just start taking small steps, one day at the time, in a positive direction.

    We’re all pulling for you

  36. Celine
    Celine says:

    Penelope is so “troubled” that this was her latest tweet.
    “Payoff for posting a photo of my fight with the farmer: I can crowdsource mental health strategies in my blog comments.” Does this sound like someone who needs well-wishers, support, hugs or whatever the majority of posters do, or is this a totally manipulative, albeit very dysfunctional, self-centered woman who wants nothing more than attention? Another tweet regarding a parent-teacher conference she states it would be more interested if they talked about her. P. needs a psych ward and her kids should live somewhere else for their well-being. As for the farmer, he’s grown and can figure out his own life.

    She’s built a brand around this behavior and has been fired from most columns because she gave bad career advice that no one trusted or wanted.

  37. Erin
    Erin says:

    I think a lot of people haven’t read enough of your column to get you. My parents got divorced, my mom acted nuts around me, and I would have rather that than some weird repressed environment where everyone was in denial and pretended things are perfect. I’d rather live in the crazy truth, than in some fucking fantasy land my parents concocted for me.

    And also, everyone should stop being so judgemental of P, who none of you have ever met (myself included). She was kind enough to give me great career advice when I emailed her once, and she was VERY responsive. Her advice worked, and I got the salary I wanted thanks to it.

    If you’ve read enough of her column you’d recognize that she’s pretty self aware and puts great effort into minimizing her crazy, or at least trying to offset it. She checked herself into the hospital–which takes guts, faith and self awareness.

    Finally…this is a blog, a mere snippet of someone’s life.

    …Lest ye be judged…

  38. Carina
    Carina says:

    I don’t get it…

    “He gets angry because he thinks he's given up everything for me.”

    What the hell has he given up? He’s in his home on his farm plus he gets a wife and doesn’t have to worry about the kids or money handling. So basically he wants to be a married man but doesn’t want to change anything in his life…nice. He also gets to have his family nearby and “escape” whenever he feels like. Penelope, he is NOT the one with the raw deal here. I think you guys need to start acting like real partners and share the good and the bad.

    • Kathy
      Kathy says:

      Was wondering the same thing. What has the farmer given up?

      It has been instinctual for me to block my husband (and all former boyfriends etc.) when he tries to leave and have been quite desperate to ensure that I am not abandoned. I’ve smashed things over my head and lots worse. I’ve been in therapy since I was a child, dx with BPD or PTSD depending on the therapist and decade of analysis. One even said I was a sociopath. Back before the term sociopath fell out of favor? Or, maybe that was just my father’s interpretation of the therapist’s diagnosis. In any case, it’s now part of my story that I tell myself. Crazy girl, bad history.

      I relate to your blog and am very thankful that you are here. My most recent sessions of DBT therapy were started in 2007, because I was yelling at my toddler and the last thing I wanted was to become like my parents, so I began therapy again with the intent of eliminating that behavior. This primary directive in therapy – a clear focused goal – led to changes I never thought could happen. Namely the elimination of the escalation of fights into demon-conjuring status. At 40, I am now able to keep things in check. So far. It might all break down tomorrow. Who knows.

      The change started in my late 30’s. I hope it can happen for you, too. I wish you all good things. <3

    • Sarah
      Sarah says:

      I agree. I know we’re not hearing his side of the story, but some of the things he said are not okay in any circumstance. It’s never okay to talk about abandoning the kids to social services, even on your very worst day in the midst of the very worst fight. It was messed up to insist he wouldn’t help clean up the glass, but threatening to abandon the kids is so completely wrong. Kids aren’t currency for anyone’s use under any circumstance. And leaving to go to stay with his parents is just LAME.

  39. Hans Hinners
    Hans Hinners says:

    Sorry you had a fight. Reminds me of cat 4 fights I had in ’94 -96.
    I hear corn huskers lotion is good and rural.
    love, compassion and understanding.

  40. Tom
    Tom says:

    Violence is never acceptable, whether done to another person or animal or done to yourself. Is this really the best way for you to communicate your feelings? I don’t know you or the farmer. but get thee to somesort of family systems therapist to learn how to communicate without harming yourself. What example are you setting for your children. Be a Mother first and care about what you actions you model for your kids.
    Stop modeling violence for their sakes if not your own.

  41. Jenn
    Jenn says:

    Okay so for most of you who read Penelopes posts I think you are missing one big point. SHE HAS ASPERGERS!!!!! Do some research on this and then search for Theory of Mind. This will explain so much about communication. Having Aspergers is like living in a monotone type world they cant read people’s emotions, they don’t understand how to put themselves in others shoes, they can develop rules like if this happens then I need to do that.

    I read Penelope’s posts becuase I am amazed at how successful she is and how writing is her “thing”….I work with people who have disabilities. Asperger’s is in the top five I never want to have….take my legs but don’t let me have Aspergers.

    Penelope you need to get some communication going that will work for both you and the farmer.

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