It is well known in the sex research arena that the more educated a woman is the more often she will receive oral sex.
I have always wondered if this is true for salary as well. For example, if your salary goes up by $50,000, how much more likely are you to receive oral sex?
I cannot find research to support that women who earn more receive more oral sex, which is why I am conducting my own research on this week’s poll.
But I have a hunch, based on a string of research that I have cobbled together:
People who are open to new experiences live in big cities (except for Chicago), and high-earning women do best in big cities.
High earning women do well dating because they are better looking than average, and because men prefer dating women who make a lot of money.
The highest earning women tend to be single, and women who are single and high earning tend to look harder to find those who are good in bed.
So, it goes to reason that women who make a lot of money receive more oral sex than women who do not make a lot of money.
Whenever I mention the fact that I have an editor for my blog, people ask why. Today is a good example: You cannot be a CEO writing about how much oral sex your own demographic receives without having someone take a look at the post to see if it’s okay to run.
And, for those of you who doubt the usefulness of my editor, here is his input on the topic:
“Let's assume that men give oral sex only because women ask for it. That's probably 95% true. Then who asks for it? Women who consider themselves at least equally deserving of that sort of consideration -the women who are going to be better earners because they are educated enough to know that they deserve it (both the income and the oral.) So I think they are coincidental, not causal. A woman who earns more has the self-confidence (and the self-worth, boosted by external factors like earning ability, education, etc.) to ask for oral.”
I’m hoping that his comment is the first in a string of insightful comments on the causal or not causal relationship between salary and sex…
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So I am guessing you don't get lots of oral sex or are trying to make a case for why you should? Is there someone you're trying to impress?
Posted by malingerer on January 6, 2009 at 11:39 am | permalink |
Well shoot, right now my ass is jobless, and I'm with someone who *lives* to go down on girls.
As willing as she is though, I have to say that my earning power (0) is definitely contributing to my sense of being attractive, or more precisely, detracting from it. I just don't feel hot when I've been lazing around the couch all day feeling like I'm about to get sucked in like 7 cents in pennies. When she's feeling jumpy I'm stuck on crappy self-esteem…the anti-boner. My ladyfriend is a sexual ninja, but it's no good to be staring at the ceiling thinking about the fact that, "one of these days, I really should start a blog like Penelope Trunk says…"
So, it might also make sense to match up the feelings-of-hotness factor with earning power AND oral. I'd be willing to bet that higher earners feel hotter and are thus firmer believers of the desirability of their bits.
Posted by Andrea on January 7, 2009 at 7:25 pm | permalink |
It really takes a lesbian to understand why men love doing oral on a pretty lady. Ive been a male lesbian for years!
Posted by Trode on October 7, 2011 at 7:50 pm | permalink |
This is interesting, P. I don't agree with any of your reasons though… I think that a higher-earning woman is more likely to be educated, and thus will likely be choosier in selecting her sexual partners based on income and education as well. I would tend to think that men who earn more and are educated would tend to be higher-level thinkers who get off on the idea of the woman getting off, and thus are more likely to pleasure her in order to arouse themselves.
Less educated, lower-earning men (in my mind) tend toward lower-level thinking, and are sufficiently satisfied to rabbit-fuck you until they come 90 seconds later, whether you're turned on or not.
Call it classist, but that's my experience. The more highly educated and earning a man has been, the more enthusiastic he has been about my sexual pleasure.
Posted by Holly Hoffman on January 6, 2009 at 11:39 am | permalink |
I completely disagree that men who are lower-earning are less intelligent or lower-level thinkers. Many simply have different values- for example, are more family focused. I have a very demanding career, and my extremely intelligent and thoughtful husband has chosen to dedicate himself to our children. His movement to a lower-status career and reduced earning power does not suggest that he is in any way a "lower level thinker" than I. In fact, I think if you reversed the gender and suggested that stay at home moms or women who worked part time and dedicated themselves to their families were lower level thinkers, you would get quite an outcry. Making this assumption regarding men seems just as ridiculous in my mind.
Maybe your experience stems from your consideration of men who are less educated/lower earners. I suspect that someone you so obviously look down on would feel less motivation to satisfy you.
Posted by H on January 7, 2009 at 11:12 pm | permalink |
Sounds like someone is campaigning for more orgasms through oral sex to reduce the stress of finding funding.
Posted by jrandom42 on January 6, 2009 at 11:46 am | permalink |
I think "you own demographic" should probably be "your own demographic." Isn't that what editors are for?
Thought provoking as always. Keep up the good work.
Posted by Teague on January 6, 2009 at 11:50 am | permalink |
The 95% estimate is way too high. Men are more generous than that.
Posted by cy on January 6, 2009 at 11:54 am | permalink |
'Generous' doesn't enter into the matter.
I'm guessing this editor doesn't get many women to sleep with him.
Well, not twice, anyway.
Posted by John H on January 8, 2009 at 11:53 pm | permalink |
My wife's a teacher (low earner) and I make about 3 times her salary, yet I go down on her as often as I can. I guess I would be the anomalous 5% of men your editor refers to who actually *like* going down on girls!
Posted by Chris Young on January 6, 2009 at 11:57 am | permalink |
For whatever reason, I couldn't pass by your blog without commenting on this.
First, I think you are probably right about the correlation between money earnings and oral sex. I have no idea what use the information could serve, but the part that convinced me is how high-earning women are better looking and how men would work harder to date high-earning (well, really, just better looking) women.
Second, I think your editor's assumption is wrong. There is no way that 95% of men don't enjoy giving oral sex. No way.
Third, oral sex is not a "new experience," is it? I thought it was pretty mainstream. Also, I don't know that being single correlates with getting more oral sex.
Interesting Poll!
Posted by Monica on January 6, 2009 at 11:59 am | permalink |
Actually, I believe less successful women have better sex. Worrying less = less distraction during sex = more enjoyment out of sex. Duh! Scale back on the career and you'll have less stress and more time. Sure, money will be less. But you'll be a more likeable person and more men will want to date you. I believe successful men prefer to be with a woman who is caring, supportive, and sweet rather than a woman who earns a very high income.
Posted by Grace on January 6, 2009 at 11:59 am | permalink |
I'm not entirely sure it's less successful women having the better sex although I fully agree with the premise of less stress equaling to better sex as the absence of mental distractions will allow for a greater experience of sexual stimulation. And regarding the activity of oral sex, it's an acquired taste, but once acquired and combined with the knowing she's getting off because you're down there is orgasmic. I get mentalgasms.
Posted by Johnny on January 7, 2009 at 10:25 am | permalink |
Haha Grace –
I just want to summarize your comment to make sure I understand.
Success = worrier
Success = less likeable
Success = not caring
Success = not supportive
Success = not sweet
Therefore men prefer unsuccessful women.
Funny, that's not what I learned in my path to the top.
Now I'm not picking on you, just making a point here.
I'm going to bet you DON'T work. I'm also going to be that you DON't get much head either. Because since you don't work, you owe SOMETHING to your keeper – be it kids, or blow jobs or dinner on the table, whatever.
I think that proves PT's point, eh?
Posted by Amy on April 24, 2009 at 12:05 pm | permalink |
Word.
Posted by Sarah on April 24, 2009 at 6:49 pm | permalink |
I had a problem with the 95% figure, too. He must not like giving it. On the other hand many men do like it. And I don't think they care how much money she makes. There probably is more stuff going on here than the money.
Posted by Carol Saha on January 6, 2009 at 12:00 pm | permalink |
This is an extraordinarily vulgar post, one which cheapens your talent. Your insight and talents are above this, you don't need to be ridiculous to get your blog read. You need to continue to provide value to your readers along with your terrific prose.
Posted by Stephanie on January 6, 2009 at 12:03 pm | permalink |
Reading all of her stuff the last two months; obvious she is not concerned with being high brow, she wants to be scintillating and edgy, true to herself.
Penelope needs a late night radio slot, for sure.
Posted by gregcnorca*aim on January 6, 2009 at 12:25 pm | permalink |
Look, I've got no problem with the content of this post. If it were on your personal blog about your life, or your sex blog about culling a sentence or two from a pile of articles to support a notion you've concocted, then it would be brilliant! But on your blog that was purportedly at one time in the distant past about career advice, it is entirely inappropriate.
You really should make some kind of statement that you have decided to go in a new direction, or change the name of your blog entirely. Or, better yet, and perhaps more fruitful, divest. Start a new blog that has nothing to do with careers where you can pour out all the personal dish that you think people want to read, and keep this space about useful, not-thought-up-in-10-minutes-to-get-a-quick-blog-post-done information.
Posted by kleinm on January 6, 2009 at 12:14 pm | permalink |
Ok, glad that this keeps morphing into a sex blog because career advice is, on standard, boring. Do high power women like to be dominated to? Just asking.
Posted by gregcnorca*aim on January 6, 2009 at 12:16 pm | permalink |
I think your editor hit it on the head. When I was working (and making more money than my husband), I took more control in our relationship. Now that I'm going back to school, I feel monetarily less equal and generally that my opinion matters less (especially when it comes to financial decisions). My husband has noted that I am taking less control in the bedroom (and that he misses it). So I think it would be fair to say that a woman who feels equal or better will be more likely to ask for what she wants than a woman whose feeling of self-worth is less.
Posted by xJane on January 6, 2009 at 12:35 pm | permalink |
This is an interesting topic, but I'm wondering about the hypothesis of the research and how it relates to one's career.
First, shouldn't the hypothesis be, "Do higher income women get more satisfaction from their sexual partners than lower income women?". This would cover a wider range of sexual behaviors that may or may not be everyone's cup of tea.
Second, this could lead to a second hypothesis, "Do higher income men get more satisfaction from their sexual partners than lower income men?".
Then, you could make yet a third hypothesis, "Do people who who demand better performance from their sexual partners have greater sexual satisfaction?"
I'm guessing that the answer to #3 is "yes".
So all this boils down to is those who ask, get.
Very important to know in managing one's career.
Posted by Dave on January 6, 2009 at 1:04 pm | permalink |
I also agree that the 95% percent of men who do not want to give it cannot be correct. I've never had to ask for it yet receive plenty. My salary could be higher though…..
Posted by Tracey on January 6, 2009 at 1:13 pm | permalink |
I don't find this vulgar, but sad. And irrelevant.
Posted by xyz on January 6, 2009 at 1:15 pm | permalink |
I agree with the conclusions, but I think you've overlooked an additional important component: men who are educated and successful are more likely to give oral sex. I used to work in cornfields with mud-people who didn't even show up to the eighth grade. On the whole, they were very anti-cunnelingus. Whereas part of being successful is knowing how to give to get.
Posted by Ned on January 6, 2009 at 1:18 pm | permalink |
"Second, I think your editor's assumption is wrong. There is no way that 95% of men don't enjoy giving oral sex. No way."
Would have to agree here. My condolences to your editor for no embracing the joys of eating p~ssy.
I think the whole premise is interesting but flawed. After a reasonable sampling of NYC women from various socioeconomic strata I can safely say rich p~ssy and poor p~ssy = edible p~ssy……
Posted by Jeremiah J on January 6, 2009 at 1:19 pm | permalink |
Interesting post. It's quite simple- if you have self-condifence, you'll succeed in whatever you do because you know you deserve it. So be brave. Ask your boss for that raise AND your partner for oral sex.
Posted by Lou Lou on January 6, 2009 at 1:36 pm | permalink |
When you can make a post with this title and content – and have no one question your taste – you know you've arrived.
I'm sure you "arrived" long ago but it must be nice to reap the rewards of years worth of credibility being built up to where you can just post – with no qualifications or justifications.
Thanks for not holding back.
Posted by Brant Meyer on January 6, 2009 at 2:04 pm | permalink |
The consistent moral outrage is hilarious and deeply pitiful.
I think your editor has a good argument about coincidence, but I think you might be leaving out a sizable group: couples in relationships. I'd wager that "Gen-Y" couples are more sexually adventurous in general and that it has no correlation or coincidence with the female's salary.
If that's true, your coincidence will only hold for single high-earning females.
Posted by Brad Fults on January 6, 2009 at 2:18 pm | permalink |
Good bye. I'm not offended, in the least,I just can't find value in your blog.
I do hope in the New Year and future that find your funding, heal your blindness, find a relationship that makes you happy, find great jobs for your children, workout how to be travel with children, never have bed bugs again, and I really hope that a building never falls on you again. I do think it would be wise to worry about everything, tho…because it will probably happen to you.
Good Luck.
Posted by Katybeth on January 6, 2009 at 2:23 pm | permalink |
I don't get Men that don't enjoy giving oral, the same reason that I don't get why some Women don't enjoy it. I enjoy giving as much as receiving.
If you don't get enjoyment from pleasing your mate then you need to find someone that you do receive that enjoyment from.
Posted by Paul on January 6, 2009 at 2:30 pm | permalink |
Your spellchecker obviously isn't working. You meant to say AURAL sex, not ORAL sex, right?
Posted by Chris on January 6, 2009 at 2:41 pm | permalink |
a stunning 95% of women recieve oral ONLY when asked?
wow. why can't men be a bit nicer to begin with? jesus.
Posted by NYC Memories on January 6, 2009 at 3:18 pm | permalink |
Hmm… I think my comment got stuck in the "vulgar language" filter or something…
The gist of it was, that I think higher-income, higher-educated women seek similar men. Those men tend to be higher level thinkers, who get off on the idea of a woman getting off. Thus, I think in general, they are more apt to be turned on by stimulating a woman, in any way, shape or form they can.
Lower income, less educated men tend to be lower-level thinkers, including their sexual thinking. Thus, they can rabbit-screw (take that dirty language filter!) a woman until they finish 90 seconds later without a care toward whether or not the woman was turned on.
Call it classist, but it's been my experience that the higher the education and income, the more turned on they seem to be by getting a woman off. Including oral sex.
Posted by Holly Hoffman on January 6, 2009 at 3:20 pm | permalink |
Good point, Holly. This seems on target to me. I wish someone at some university would conduct this research so that I could link to it.
Meanwhile, of course there is no filter for vulgar language on this blog. I shudder to think of what would happen to all those good comments!
Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on January 6, 2009 at 5:23 pm | permalink |
Until you get some numbers to back a claim like that up, classist is exactly what that is.
Posted by Andrea on January 7, 2009 at 7:33 pm | permalink |
First of all, I was going to make the same point that your editor made: that high-earning women tend to be more assertive and having the confidence to ask for what you want sexually can definitely increase how often (and how long) oral sex is received.
I do not think the 95% number was to be taken so seriously either. Of course, there are plenty of men who enjoy giving oral sex but I also agree with Holly Hoffman's comment about what types of men are more likely to pleasure a woman orally.
And lets not overlook the fact that there are plenty of men who are selfish or at least oblivious in bed and actually require a woman asking for oral sex the majority of the time. Men can be very focused on their own pleasure (and the goal of penetrative) sex and perhaps, these same men would love to perform oral sex but their fixation on penetrative sex makes it easy to overlook oral sex.
Posted by The Sassy Sexpert on January 6, 2009 at 3:29 pm | permalink |
What about hygiene? Is there a correlation between level of education and/or success and personal hygiene? That is certainly an area of the body that if not properly maintained can present certain olfactory challenges.
Posted by Jimmy on January 6, 2009 at 3:31 pm | permalink |
Maybe if we were talking about extremely poor people who don't have access to normal resources (for example the homeless who aren't able to shower as often).
But I had assumed the post had more to do with average earners vs. very high earners, or people with advanced degrees vs. people with only high-school or undergraduate degrees.
As a physician, I can tell you that within these groups there is no difference in personal hygiene. I think its a bit offensive to assume that just because someone isn't a very high earner/ doesn't have a graduate degree they don't know how to keep their genitalia clean.
Posted by H on January 7, 2009 at 11:23 pm | permalink |
I'm not single. I'm happily married (with two kids) for nearly a decade.
I am college educated. I'm well-paid for my geographic area (but, hey, I argue I could make more). I am smart; I am a workaholic. I fairly attractive, though 40 lbs or so overweight.
I get it …and I don't have to ask.
Posted by For the record.. on January 6, 2009 at 3:53 pm | permalink |
I will do my part in fighting this travesty of justice. Come on guys take the pledge… you can make a difference in fighting against this unjust disparity.
Posted by Conny Linugus on January 6, 2009 at 4:07 pm | permalink |
This isn't the interesection of work and life, it's the intersection of salary and sex. So hopefully your next post will be about negotiating for a huge raise because I deserve a better sex life. Not sure how my boss would take that, though.
Posted by prklypr on January 6, 2009 at 4:37 pm | permalink |
Hmm.. I seem to remember a study a number of years ago that showed quite the opposite. The higher the I.Q., the lower the frequency of sex. Also, the less T.V. one watched, the lower the frequency. Housing was a factor also, the lower the home value, the more frequent the sex.
So, people living in trailer parks, that watch lots of T.V. and had low I.Q.s were doing it all the time…
Can't find a reference though.
Posted by Eric on January 6, 2009 at 4:52 pm | permalink |
i guess if you earn more there's more reason to celebrate (e.g., you eat out more often, you socialize and hang out more often) — however, i think that it would also depend if the woman is a workaholic… i don't think men give oral sex without looking for something in return (whereas lots of men get oral sex and after that, it's done)…
Posted by karla on January 6, 2009 at 5:19 pm | permalink |
You are exactly right Karla ! Men love going down on a beautiful woman and all the while hopeing she will let him take it further. But oral alone is quite enjoyable to most men.
Posted by Trode on October 7, 2011 at 7:42 pm | permalink |
People are tempted to put whatever casual factor they want (in this case money) as the one ingredient that leads to more sex. The fact is though that the inter-related characteristics like domestic status, happiness, income, attractiveness, education level that determine sexual frequency are so complex no study can pinpoint which factor is the cause and what factor is the effect except that married people tend to have more sex than single people.
And I love some of the hilarious stereotypes like Holly's above. Really…the narcisstic investment bankers who helped cause our nation's downfall are really higher level thinkers? Are GM and Ford execs on a higher plane than average people? Does Bernie Madoff look like he is a genius in bed? This worship of people who make money as "higher level" thinkers is what got us in this mess in the first place. Sometimes a high income person is only good at making a high income. Some lower income women I have dated, ones with a healthy dose of confidence and lack of NYC type neurosis or S. Cal vanity, were far better in bed than their overrated, educated and overpaid counterparts.
And yes, I am fully aware that in reply that I am stereotyping as well :)
Posted by Sidney on January 6, 2009 at 5:27 pm | permalink |
Hmmmm, I only make $20,000/year and I get more licks than a Blow Pop!
Posted by Pam on January 6, 2009 at 5:28 pm | permalink |
“Let's assume that men give oral sex only because women ask for it. That's probably 95% true."
Wow, that's a pretty hefty assumption. Fortunately in the Venn diagram of sexual relationships, I don't seem to have much overlap with your editor.
Posted by Sarah Stokely on January 6, 2009 at 5:41 pm | permalink |
One of the other things I think greatly effects the amount of oral sex high income women receive is assertiveness. Generally, if you're a high earner of either sex, you are naturally more assertive and 'speak up' more often for the things you want. This, in my opinion, naturally transfers to the bedroom so high-earning women tend to be less shy about asking for oral sex from their partners than lower earners.
Posted by Anthony Papillion on January 6, 2009 at 5:52 pm | permalink |
I think a girl should have some fun with her blog.
I can't wait until next week's poll.
The comments are better than the poll/post today.
I would guess the emails are even better.
If Penelope can't find a link to some piece of research on sex then I know that I can't either or else it would be extremely difficult.
It's interesting to think about the relationship of more education, more money, self-confidence building, and oral sex. What about the frequency of the oral sex between Eliot Spitzer and Ashley Dupre and the oral sex and control aspects that some of our past Presidents got to experience. It's not just salary and sex here. It's the pecking order in the company, organization, or whatever else that comes to mind.
There are some things you never forget and one of those things for me was a skit I saw by the late Sam Kinison on one of his videos. He demonstrated his technique for oral sex. LOL just thinking about his performance. So I was going to google it for the link but I found a better link at AskMen.com – 14 Oral Sex Tips is the title and it can be found at http://www.askmen.com/dating/love_tip_150/199_love_tip.html . Good stuff.
Posted by Mark W. on January 6, 2009 at 7:44 pm | permalink |
This post was thought-provoking for sure, and I'm not positive my own anecdotal experience supports the theory, but I'd have to noodle on it.
That said, I'll have to ixnay on surfing to this blog at work as this isn't really a SFW topic…
Posted by JC on January 6, 2009 at 8:23 pm | permalink |
Well…I am all for oral sex, get plenty of it and always have, regardless of my income. I do think, however, that PT's post is quite silly. It really doesn't belong on this blog, in other words…
NOW, having said that, I found that the more educated I become (I have a Ph.D.), the more men want to impress me in bed. My income has shot way up as well, but men seem to find that intimidating. So, I can't say that my higher income has helped that much when it "comes" to receiving oral sex.
Posted by Stephanie on January 6, 2009 at 9:12 pm | permalink |
This is definitely a thought-provoking blog post. Here's my two cents.
Cent number 1 – I am a sucessful 40 year old woman who earns six figures. I have been married 7 years. My husband likes to perform oral sex and is good at it. I don't have to ask for it (Lucky me). I was successful in my career before I met my husband. My husband earns a good living but I make more money than he does. So part of the your conclusions ring true for me, but part don't.
Cent number 2 – When I was in high school and college I was very, very poor. I also didn't have much self esteem. However, I had a fair amount of sex. Much of it was oral sex. In fact about 2/3 of my partners performed it on me and I performed it on them. All of my partners were poor high school or college students, non of them came from a wealthy background. I don't think oral sex had anything to do with income or self esteem at that time. I think it was just what was popular at the time in my area of the country in my social circles. So, none of your conclusions seem to really ring true for that phase of my life.
Oh, the attractive thing may have some validity. I'm not a super model by any means but I've always known how to do the best with what God gave me. But then again, have you seen some of that homemade porn – some of those people are way ugly and they're really going to town.
Posted by SallyR on January 6, 2009 at 11:33 pm | permalink |
Who is this editor/idiot/loser who assumes that 95% of women have to request oral sex to receive it? Is he kidding, or does he just hate performing oral sex? It's a completely inaccurate statistic. Furthermore, I can attest to the fact that my lover loves going down on me, and even more so when he's trying to cheer me up. Because I'm self-employed and making absolutely no money right now.
Posted by Margaret on January 6, 2009 at 11:46 pm | permalink |
So what kind of women do you think give more oral sex–to men?
Heads of non-profits on strict Atkins diets?
; ^ )~
Posted by Hep on January 7, 2009 at 1:15 am | permalink |
Wow. I hope your intention of posting this was to get people who were reading this blog for career advice to go elsewhere as well as diminish the credibility of previous advice given–perhaps a little self sabotage in a way.
I certainly am not morally outraged in the least bit, but will probably stop paying attention to "career advice" from this blog. I'd been following your blog for at least a year and in recent months it has seemingly turned into a soap opera'ish story of your life with less focus on your insight and research on valuable career advice. This hard hitting career entry is certainly the icing on the cake.
It's funny because if you knew me, you would know that It would be far outside my character to spend time on a response to something so insignificant..but here I am.
good luck!
Posted by Slavek on January 7, 2009 at 2:49 am | permalink |
Sorry. I strangely feel compelled to add one more thing.
I'd love to see an article or at least a response on how this entry pertains to the mission statement of your company. Maybe a Venn diagram would be easier? Perhaps the mission statement needs revision? Or Maybe you should send out an email blast to your corporate clients to check out this new entry so they can "locate hard-to-find candidates."
This blog entry is just so ridiculous I can't stop laughing. It's funny how one poorly chosen article can make your opinions and advice irrelevant to a certain percentage of your readers. I hope for your sake that it is a small percentage.
Verbose mission statement:
http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/about-brazen-careerist/
Posted by Slavek on January 7, 2009 at 3:17 am | permalink |
I guess oral sex isn't viewed by some as being part of life (as in the intersection of work and life)? People need to relax! We're adults; can't we have a healthy discussion about oral sex? Wasn't there a long running series on television about just this sort of thing?
I didn't read all the links because I don't have time. But I have to agree with Sally R. I've been poor and I've been middle class (where I am a bit stuck, it seems). It was only when I was living in the suburbs and married to an uptight guy with more money that I wasn't getting oral sex and lots of it.
So, I hope others will still take up the cause and strive to give women of all socio-economic levels great oral sex without being asked (do get consent first, ok?). But I think my low income, uneducated cousins are doing alright for themselves in the oral sex department.
Posted by rainie on January 7, 2009 at 6:47 am | permalink |
Hum, I'm not sure this is true. Aren't there also studies that say very religious women have the best sex of all of us?
That aside, I guess I'm a high earner. I live in a small town. I'm not single. I'm self employed. This describes most of my friends (except for the self employed part), and we're all getting plenty of oral. So this is what I think:
* We are assertive. High earning women tend to be. I'm the type of woman who says, "Hey dude, your mouth. Down there. Now."
* Our men adore us. They are willing to do anything to stay married to us.
* We reciprocate. In fact, we keep them very happy in the sack, too.
* Can't speak for all of us, but at least a few of us wax, which makes the whole area much more inviting for that type of thing. The typical bikini wax, even if a small town, runs $90, so it's becoming something only high earning women can afford. Might explain all of it…
Posted by Alisa Bowman on January 7, 2009 at 8:18 am | permalink |
Alisa, along with the smooth playground,try flavoring that is made for oral sex. Different shops sell it in various flavors and it is GREAT !!!!!!!! Like eating your favorite candy!!
Posted by Trode on October 7, 2011 at 7:32 pm | permalink |
Here's a starter with plenty of references at the back.
It covers STD's and condom use but it does contain some useful data about the demographics.
"Prevalence and Correlates of Heterosexual Anal
and Oral Sex in Adolescents and Adults
in the United States"
http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/pdf/10.1086/522867
To find other papers use +"oral sex" +demographic in Google Scholar. http://scholar.google.com.au/
Posted by Nigel on January 7, 2009 at 8:53 am | permalink |
I think money has nothing to do with it; looks have everything to do with it. Guys want to date attractive women. The more skills he brings to the party, the higher chance a guy has of scoring and keeping an attractive woman.
LMAO Pam "more licks than a blow pop"! Possibly the best blog comment I've ever read!
Posted by Maggie on January 7, 2009 at 9:33 am | permalink |
I'm not sure I can really add too much to most of the wonderful comments, but the post is very thought provoking.
Personally, I don't get enough oral sex, but is there really enough………………:)
But, then again, I would love to earn more money, so I'll let you know if more oral comes with the raise.
Posted by LisaNewton on January 7, 2009 at 9:48 am | permalink |
Your editor isn't doing you any favors Penelope.
Posted by Maria Schneider on January 7, 2009 at 10:09 am | permalink |
I find this post to be useless & boring but not as depressing as many of the recent ones have been. I read this blog to be entertained & to get info that will help me in life & work while getting differing viewpoints. Since I am not getting this I am going to unsubscribe but before I do I want to share some thoughts.
I am the type of person that most readers of this blog despise. I am a pro-life, NRA member, creationist, Ronald Reagan loving conservative but I do like to hear opposing views (unlike the progressive haters on the left & Gen Y conservatives can listen to those that they disagree with) You people & Penelope depress me so I can't go on listening to you. You are selfish, unhappy people. It's pretty simple. Work hard, love your family, take personal responsibility & be positive & good things will happen. I don't hear dick on this blog about helping other people or sacrificing for your family-it's just about trying to make yourself happy doing whatever feels good to you at the expense of anyone else. (See the entry on Ashley Dupre prasing her initiative)
I am going to read other blogs & continue my work as a member of the vast right wing conspiracy as we expose the hoax of man-made global warming. So long suckers.
Posted by Neil C. on January 7, 2009 at 10:32 am | permalink |
Is your editor a man or a woman? I, too, find the 95% calculation ridiculous. Over almost twenty years of having and talking with other women about sex, I have personally experienced or heard of two men who were not enthusiastic about giving oral. One of them was 20 years old; presumably, he may have grown up a bit since then. I am from a very poor background but got scholarships, worked hard, etc. and now work and have worked for several academic institutions, so my experience spans over several socioeconomic groups. Good in bed/bad in bed has little to do with income or class, as I see it.
Posted by K on January 7, 2009 at 10:35 am | permalink |
I'm married with two young kids I've had no sleep for 2 years now because they wake up all the time.
I think I remember oral sex !!! Is that that thing you do before kids come in to you're life.
Oh well, maybe 2009 will be my lucky year or my wife's luck year….zzzzzzz
Posted by jim on January 7, 2009 at 11:05 am | permalink |
Your editor is telling us something about himself that makes me think I would not date him.
I would say there is a coincidental connection between income and oral sex. I have always enjoyed great oral sex from partners who shared my sense of adventure, curiosity and sensuality. Those are the same guys who are the most interesting out in the world as well. It took much longer for my academic and professional experience to develop, but in those arenas I have also benefited from my openness to new opportunities and experiences. At 56, I'm amazed to find myself defined as an "ultra-achieving woman." Wow. And I'm still enjoying great oral sex too.
Posted by JoAnn on January 7, 2009 at 1:37 pm | permalink |
I think the combination of you and your editor could be potentially lethal. To the people that can't see the correlation between work and personal life here, let me make it simple for you – ask and you shall receive. In the bedroom and the office – those who ask, get what they ask for.
I wouldn't have been promoted if I didn't express my interest in the position. I wouldn't have you as a mentor if I didn't ask you to be at the PRSSA Conference. In past relationships, I wouldn't have gotten oral if I didn't ask for it. Luckily for me, that isn't a problem with this relationship.
People that ask for what they want are star performers. Star performers are more fun to be around, better to work with, get better jobs and I would imagine they are better in bed as well.
Keep it up, you're incredible.
Posted by Sydney on January 7, 2009 at 2:13 pm | permalink |
Posted by Phil Latio on January 7, 2009 at 2:45 pm | permalink |
It may be my (somewhat prudish) upbringing working against me here, but I felt a bit manipulated by this post. Sex sells — or at least drives up site traffic. I didn't really find the post offensive, but it seemed like the oral sex angle was strictly a pretty transparent attention grabber. For some reason, if it had just talked about successful women and sex in general, I would not have been at all irked. I guess I just found the content a little thin, and felt oral sex was used to distract from that fact. Just me ….
Posted by Monique on January 7, 2009 at 3:12 pm | permalink |
Interesting poll question.
But I find that usuallt none of the possible answers fall in line with my experiances. You should always add the option of "I don't care about this poll, I just love voting" which will allow people to participate, but give you a chance at a more meaning ful result. And probably another another option of, "I thought hard about the question, but I have a hard time relating to the narrow choices of answers you have limited me to."
just a thought
Posted by Chris on January 7, 2009 at 3:19 pm | permalink |
I heard Penelope on a talk show in Madison recently complaining about how she was offended by the interviewer's calendar of vintage pin-ups. It's nice to see that she practices the same level of classiness as she demands.
Posted by Matt on January 7, 2009 at 4:02 pm | permalink |
Interesting. Never had to ask, never had a problem receiving. I tend to find that the men I date are interested in my pleasure, to heighten their own. I suspect *that* is your correlate with income/education.
Posted by deepali on January 7, 2009 at 4:06 pm | permalink |
I'm surprised that, with all the comments so far, I'm the first one saying this, but: This should really say "High-income straight women get more oral sex. Maybe."
Because it makes perfect sense if I automatically translate it to mainstreamese as I read it – assume that women are all having sex with men, and that therefore oral sex is a rare and special occasion like Sex And The City tells me it is.
But reading it from my own perspective, as a bisexual woman engaged to another woman, I find that it doesn't make much sense at all. Because in my experience, most people in this community consider oral sex to be a given. It might not be everyone's cup of tea, but the default is that people generally like it and do it, that it's right there on the table of at least equal importance with other potential sexual acts.
I wonder what we'd do to the statistics there? Seems like examining this community would reveal SOMETHING about straight people and oral sex that would be useful to the original question here.
I'm also surprised your editor didn't catch the accidental heterosexualizing of the whole world here ;)
Posted by Dani on January 7, 2009 at 4:36 pm | permalink |
I actually thought a lot about the heterosexual issue in this post. You will notice that I worded the poll so that a gay woman or straight woman could answer. I had to do some verbal gymnastics to make that happen. It also occurred to me that gay women should get to vote twice — once as giver and once as receiver.
-Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on January 7, 2009 at 5:10 pm | permalink |
I dunno if I can agree with this. Just take a look at a successful woman! She works harder and longer hours and is alot more focused on her career. As a result of this she will have very little time for sex and that translates into slam bam thank you ma'am. The unsuccesful women now probably just want to leave work early since they do not care about their job. As a result they will be "dined" on more often.
anyways to sum it up…men dont get enough head, successful or unsuccessful
Posted by James Galdorf on January 7, 2009 at 4:54 pm | permalink |
Yeah, Penny really deserves all of that funding she desperately needs to run this blog and her company. How could a world with a horrible economy do without such fantastic career advice? Such meaningful thoughts and advice — wow!
All that aside, all men enjoy pleasuring women. Big surprise. It has nothing to do with money or career success. For all you women out there: (at the most basic level) men don't care about your money or success in the workplace. It is enough that you are naked and ready to go. It really helps if you are good looking and if you don't stink.
This is really low brow even for Penny. Investors, this is truly where the shark has been jumped. Truly tasteless material.
Posted by Reality Check on January 7, 2009 at 5:34 pm | permalink |
A speed dating study? Phooey!
High income men get more oral sex. Definitely.
Great looking women get more oral sex. Definitely.
The rest are maybe's.
Posted by Mark S. on January 8, 2009 at 1:54 am | permalink |
P, no. I usually love to read your blog, and I am often astounded by your insights, but this was straight blog porn. Not okay.
Posted by Lindsey on January 8, 2009 at 4:01 am | permalink |
Penelope,
Given you've been on both ends of the spectrum (high income, low income), have you noticed a correlation in the frequency of oral in your life?
During your high earning years, did you get more?
In your low earning years, did you get less?
I'm not in a position to offer an opinion (wife stays at home) other than she never has to ask for it. The assumption that 95% of men DON'T like to do it is off by a mile, methinks.
Posted by Huck Finn on January 8, 2009 at 7:17 am | permalink |
Therefore, if I want to make more money, maybe I should get me some more oral sex?
You know I think you're great, P., but I think you're better than writing about this stuff.
Posted by GenerationXpert on January 8, 2009 at 7:39 am | permalink |
I found this amusing, and maybe a little 'tongue in cheek' ;)
Anyhow was sent this link the same day… wonder what Karma is telling me.
http://www.louisvillefreeface.com/
… shocking
Enjoy.
Posted by KMcDougall on January 8, 2009 at 10:38 am | permalink |
Never really thought about it, BUT it made me come to a realization that I just had to share…I had been seeing my BF for a little over a year and he hardly ever performed oral sex on me; I'm talking maybe 5 times in the entire year. Then, I received an increase of about $12,000 a year and let's just say the frequency has increase dramatically…and I DON'T have to ask for it…hmmm…maybe there is something to your hypothesis.
Posted by Natski on January 8, 2009 at 1:01 pm | permalink |
LOL, you all are toooooooottttaaaaallly over thinking this.
High Income = More money to spend on yourself.
1. Expensive Clothing
2. Physical Trainer
3. Better Diet / food
4. Manicure / Pedicure
5. Expensive Hair
6. Skin treatments
You have all those to work with, you would have to be pretty ugly to start with to not be hot.
Take Penelope for example. Above average looking, athletic build woman. With the money she spends on herself, you get a sophisticated beautiful looking woman that any man would be honored to submit to (call me anytime Penelope :-)))))
Posted by Danny on January 8, 2009 at 6:24 pm | permalink |
Penelope,
Love reading you. You're funny, brilliant and such an unconventional thinker you always make me see work/life in a different way – send my your address and I'll be a $5 angel – (I'm older, getting divorced and work for the old world media so I'm counting the days til I'm as stressed about money as you, or I'd send more.) Michele
Posted by Michele on January 8, 2009 at 8:11 pm | permalink |
Best. Post. Title. Ever.
Of course, the real secret here is to buck the odds and figure out how to get more oral sex than your earning power actually merits.
Posted by Chris Yeh on January 9, 2009 at 2:42 am | permalink |
I love it.
Literally.
Posted by Dave Johnston on January 9, 2009 at 10:18 am | permalink |
Well there's two minutes of my life I will never get back.
Posted by Joseph Hollak on January 9, 2009 at 12:09 pm | permalink |
Good post. It's a shame that observations such as these will so typically and predictably draw puerile remarks in the comments section. I actually think this topic has lots of important, economic implications.
Time to RSS you.
Gregor
Posted by Gregor on January 9, 2009 at 1:38 pm | permalink |
The first place I ever heard mention of oral sex for women was in the kitchen of a Cracker Barrel. No, it's not as bad as it sounds. Heard from a veteran waitress to a younger waitress (not me): "Honey, if he ain't petting the cat, I don't wag the dog." And I know veteran waitresses aren't high income earners, but they are often the sole income earner for their household (so maybe financial independence plays a part?). Veteran waitresses are also often slightly off their rocker, Cracker Barrel pun not intended.
Posted by Hayli on January 9, 2009 at 1:53 pm | permalink |
This is a REALLY good one!!!!!!!!!!!!! True but good!!!!!!
Posted by Trode on October 7, 2011 at 7:21 pm | permalink |
Just discovering your blog with some of your entries.
This one made me smile :)
Thank you !
I like to feel I'm part of some of a 5% interesting population :P
Hope you a new year full of tongue play ! (meaning you'll be rich so ^^)
And let's go subscribe to your blog now.
Posted by fanf on January 9, 2009 at 1:56 pm | permalink |
If it is true, that a more successful woman receives more oral sex, I think it may be that that type of professional is more aggressive, outgoing, and probably has a higher risk tolerance. These traits would most likely not be limited to her career, but instead permeate her entire life, making her more open and expressive in the bedroom as well.
My contention here is that it probably isn't the successful career, or how much money is made, that correlates to more oral sex, but instead the "type A" personality.
I believe that Outgoing women receive more oral sex and being outgoing correlates strongly with being successful, however not every outgoing person is successful.
Posted by James on January 9, 2009 at 1:59 pm | permalink |
Good Lord. I just think that women who are comfortable with oral sex are more comfortable sexually, professionally, etc. There are actually some women who are uncomfortable with their bodies, therefore, less likely to explore certain types of sexual activities. So, in a general sense, women who are professionally successful are more likely to have more education (therefore, more of a sense of entitlement) and probably speak up for themselves in the bedroom and "demand" that a "cunning linguist" perform for them.
Posted by Raven on January 9, 2009 at 6:04 pm | permalink |
hmmmm P we knew you were a CEO but I was not aware you were back to being a high earner – good on you :) le
Posted by le on January 10, 2009 at 7:25 am | permalink |
. . . and who gets involved, even casually, with someone whose sweet nectar he doesn't want to taste?
Not me.
Posted by Hep on January 10, 2009 at 11:02 pm | permalink |
Seems pretty simple to me – better educated women tend to date better educated men; better educated men are more likely to give oral sex because culturally it's more expected of them. The intelligensia consider it an ordinary part of sex. The working classes often think that it's a sign of being under your girlfriend's thumb. I don't think it's anything to do with the women's position at all – it's all about the guy's background.
Posted by Kate on January 12, 2009 at 1:54 pm | permalink |
I think this merely gets back to a long-standing point you've made a hundred times: being a Rock Star at work gives you more options in life, because it builds your own personal power. A woman with a strong and well-paid career is more likely to have the confidence to go after what she wants, and is usually accustomed enough to success that she is less likely to take being rebuffed for long. On top of which, oral sex is more common among higher levels of education of both men and women, and higher educated (and better earning) women are more likely to be with men of the same category. So while I think you're probably right, I think the question is a bit like shooting fish in a barrel: there is enough related and confirmed evidence to suggest that you're hypothesis is valid — so much so that it is probably a bit of a no brainer.
Posted by Alora on January 12, 2009 at 4:07 pm | permalink |
As a man who has in the past held various "low rent" jobs and is now not an above average earner, I can only commment on my personal experience. I have always enjoyed giving and receiving oral sex. Some women enjoy receiving, some don't. I have found that the latter is less often the case then the former but see absolutely no correlation to the level of income of the woman. So maybe I am one of the few odd cases that your editor is talking about. How I feel about myself has nothing to do with whether I want or dont want to partake in either form of oral sex. Just my $.02 for what it's worth.
Posted by E on January 13, 2009 at 9:27 am | permalink |
Interesting the way you put idea 1 together with idea 2 and 3 to come up with your conclusion about oral sex–I think politicians do this frequently to say that research says THIS on a subject, when in fact it is just putting together commonly held beliefs, then those beliefs are suddenly related as FACT, when all they are is putting ideas together.
Now to the topic at hand. As a middle-aged man my experience with women of varying education and income levels is that some women just want and enjoy oral sex more (maybe the others don't know what they are missing). My girlfriend/fiance and I are more comfortable in bed than any other woman I've been with so it ALL is better. I think this has to do with our compatibility and desire to please each other, and we come from vastly different backgrounds. I will tell you that women who are smart and are able to apply their talents at work (my girlfriend is a small business owner) are great to work with, as long as they don't try to be men in the workplace! I'm monogamous but it is still nice to work with the opposite sex.
Posted by KN on January 13, 2009 at 11:44 am | permalink |
This makes for sensational blogging, but does this post really highlight anything new? Sure the wealthy, successful, or attractive (male or female) are more likely to get what they want from life. It only stands to reason. Aren't we just beating a dead horse here for S and Gs?
Posted by Dale on January 13, 2009 at 10:18 pm | permalink |
The only way a richer woman is going to be more confident asking for oral sex is if she somehow feels that because she has money she has the right to ask for it. Women don't think that way! If a woman wants oral sex, she's going to ask for it regardless of how much money she makes! I guess I should just wait until I'm a millionaire to ask for oral sex then, right? Because apparently we don't feel "worthy enough" already?
Perhaps she has enough money to PAY for oral sex….ever think of that???
Posted by Alicia on January 15, 2009 at 12:51 am | permalink |
This is by far the stupidest post I've read. I love when writers like you have this need to write some stream of conciousness crap as if 1) we really care 2) there is some degree of value.
Sounds like that editor was asleep at the switch.
Keep the crap coming!
Posted by Jerry M on January 17, 2009 at 4:26 pm | permalink |
Wanted to wish you all the best because you will lose a lot of your followers (myself included) after this nonsense.
You are so much better than this garbage you have posted!
At what point did you think this would be relevant?
Oh well. Should make for a great case study on how to screw up your credibility!
Posted by Jennifer on January 18, 2009 at 10:56 am | permalink |
I am fascinated by the number of people who seem to think that they should be the arbiters of what you write. Don't like one post? Then chuck Penelope and her blog out entirely! Or at the very least post something rude about the post! You're in charge here after all, right? – not the author! It's up to HER to cater to YOUR personal tastes and your ideas of what her blog should contain. That's business!
It reminds me of Comic Book Guy, on the Simpsons:
CBG: Last night's Itchy & Scratchy was, without a doubt, the worst episode ever. Rest assured I was on the internet within minutes registering my disgust throughout the world.
Bart: Hey, I know it wasn't great, but what right do you
have to complain?
CBG: As a loyal viewer, I feel they owe me.
Bart: What? They're giving you thousands of hours of
entertainment for free. What could they possibly owe
you? I mean, if anything, you owe them.
CBG: ….Worst episode EVER.
Posted by Dani on January 18, 2009 at 1:28 pm | permalink |
Actually, Dani I beg to differ. It's about the customer or in this case the readers. They are the ones who decide if value is provided or if it was a waste of their time.
Forgive me for disagreeing but that is actually business.
You have a very familiar writing style. I wonder if, no it couldn't be.
I'll let you get back to the Simpsons!
Posted by The Anti Dani on January 18, 2009 at 4:35 pm | permalink |
Penelope is always on step ahead.
Earlier this week, the most read article on the Times Online website was "Wealthy men give women more orgasms": http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article5537017.ece
From the article: "“Women’s orgasm frequency increases with the income of their partner,” said Dr Thomas Pollet, the Newcastle University psychologist behind the research."
Posted by Kat on January 20, 2009 at 4:29 pm | permalink |
Unless I'm the 5% who never asks, every man I've gone to bed with has offered/given without asking and even without me giving first. In my case, income is irrelevant, because it was the same when I was a student and now that I'm making six-figures. So definitely interesting, but not necessarily linked…
Posted by Janice Wong on January 23, 2009 at 12:21 pm | permalink |