If you ask the Farmer, he would tell you that I was really really nice to him last week while he was in bed, immobile, strung out on six Percocet a day. I made him pies, and French toast, and meat at every meal because there is no amount of Percocet that would make him not want to eat meat.
I watched gunslinger movies with him when he was groggy and I made sure to talk only about innocuous topics like the state of world politics, something that we'd never fight about.
I can't tell you everything went smoothly. I forgot to let the chickens out a few days. I lost the new bag of Cat Chow and served ground beef for two days of heaven on earth for the cats. And, there were a few times the goats got into the house. But we figured out how to handle everything.

Until the Farmer felt better: His back didn't hurt so he wanted to work. So, he just stopped taking the Percocet. Cold turkey. And because we live in the country, the doctor gave the Farmer sixty Percocet pills with no instructions for how to go off narcotics.
For those of you who know nothing about Percocet, first of all, if you ever get that many pills prescribed, sell them on the streets of New York City to fund your child's education. That's how hard they are to come by.
And there's a reason: They are highly addictive. I'm linking to some stuff about getting off high dosages of Percocet, but I'm summarizing: You can't go cold turkey. You have to go slowly or you make yourself crazy.
So the Farmer was crazy and I had to have a drug intervention to tell him he was a total jerk and having withdrawal and he couldn't tell and he needed to do it more systematically.
I convinced him. But he is not a guy who lays in bed all day. And he had already done it for five days. He wanted to work. On Percocet. I told him we agreed no machinery on Percocet. He told me how it's not fair that I want him to taper and I want him to not work.
Then we have a screaming match about how life is not fair. That is the first topic. Which slides into:
Me: Don't scream at me—
The Farmer: No you're screaming at me—
No. Fuck you.
I told you I don't like swearing.
I told you I don't like you being mean.
This did not happen. I mean it did. It has happened so many times that it's like the bass beat in the background of our everyday life.
So we did that and then he told me he had to work. It was a work emergency.
Here's what he said: "I have to check cows."
You might think I know nothing about farming, but I have actually learned a lot precisely for figuring out if the Farmer is BSing me or not.
Me: Your dad can check them.
The Farmer: I don't want to call him. It's a masculinity thing.
I swear to God. He said this.
Then he told me he had to be off Percocet on Monday because he's shipping hogs and cattle.
This is farmer-speak for putting them in a truck and sending them to the butcher to be killed.
I tell him he can taper off the Percocet like he is supposed to, and his parents can ship pigs and cows.
Then we have a huge fight. About what really needs to happen: how his parents don't need him to ship the cows and pigs.
He says he wants to be in charge of it.
I tell him he's 40 and he's too old to show up at work just to make sure people know he's in charge.
So he has to tell me that I make his life hell.
Now that I've been with him three years, I know this is his way of telling me he doesn't want to talk.
When I tell you what I did next, you will think I'm a bitch. But so what? I'm going to tell you anyway. I told him he had to talk to me all day. I told him I was going to follow him around the farm nonstop, how I would even drive off-road to check the cows in the forest.
So he says, "Don't threaten me."
I say, "I am telling you what I need. I need you to talk with me."
"All day?"
"Yes. All day."
"It's past my comfort zone."
"Talking to me for one second is past your comfort zone."
He laughs. He says, "Fine."
We are talking. He wants to wander… past the corn…past the hay…through the vegetable garden…
We talk about nothing. I bitch to him about how he's dishonest to himself about the farm, and he says things like, "Okay, you win. I'm not as honest as you." Or, "You're right, I'm never going to be able to make you happy."
These are ways to avoid having to have a conversation with me, so I don't relent. I know he's exhausted from talking, but look, you have to trust me on this that he has to talk for two hours before he actually says anything besides how he would rather be single than have a hard conversation.
I tell him that the real reason he's trying to kick the Percocet so fast is because he's scared his parents don't need him. He wants to be needed.
Then I tell him, "Look, your parents just wrote you out of their will. They obviously don't think they need you."
This hits hard. Though not as hard as it's hitting you now, when you read it, because I've said this to the Farmer a lot of times. Ever since the parents wrote him out of the will.
The next part of the conversation is deleted. I had to—the Farmer was too upset. But here is some background material so you can follow along.
As you know, from my Thanksgiving Drama post, the Farmer has three sisters, all of whom have kids. I am not allowed to tell you who the Farmer's parents are giving the farm to. We have to keep that a secret. You might know from the post about why I do not do family secrets that keeping another family secret is eventually going to make me physically ill. I am positive that keeping family secrets only serves to protect people who treat family members like shit.
(That is the end of the deleted, secret part. The good news about me having to write about the deletion is that I got to link to two of the most popular posts on the blog. Maybe you missed them. They are good to read.)
So, suffice it to say that the farmer asked his parents why they aren't leaving any of the land to his children, and his parents said that they are not his real children.
I think the farmer is devastated and he needs to stop farming with them because he's devastated.
He tells me he is not devastated and he is happy farming with them.
I tell him he's lying to himself and he's taking it out on me, like when he tells me I am unreasonable about Percocet and he has to ship hogs. It's really not that I'm reasonable but that he's scared to miss a day of shipping hogs and won't admit it.
I don't care specifically about the farm. I mean, I didn't grow up expecting I'd have farm land. But I do care about feeling like the Farmer is losing his self-respect over this and taking it out on me.
Okay. So I refuse to let the Farmer stop talking.
He says he'll talk if we can go somewhere comfortable.
We can't go in the house. My ex is there with the kids. We do our best fighting when my ex is distracting the kids.
The Farmer wants to go to the pig building.

The pig building: I tried to get him to throw out his gross furniture that he had had since college and he couldn't do it, so he put it in the pig building.
Now he wants to sit on his sofa. There are two. I sit across from him.

He has nothing to say, of course. This is how a Farmer talks to his wife. By saying nothing. So I look around. My son's 4H pig project pigs are in the building, so by pig farm standards, the place is clean.
Where we are sitting looks kind of like an island in the middle of pig blood, but the Farmer told me it's really just muddy water.

The Farmer says, "What do you think of the pigs?"
I tell him that does not count as conversation.
I tell him I'm going to last a lot longer on the sofa than he is because I can sit still and he can't. I take off my boots and sort of make myself comfortable, like it's the living room.
Finally he tells me he wants to transition to a smaller farm operation, on just the 125 acres he owns outright. But he's scared. He doesn't know for sure how to do it. He's making a plan.
Then we are talking. I tell him I'd be scared, too. I tell him I know he's built up a great business and it's hard to walk away.
I am not one with extra empathy, but I have plenty for career changes. And I think that's what he's really going through. He's worked on the same farm for 40 years, and now he has to switch. He has to make operations work on his own farm, he has to figure out all new animal and crop logistics and all new cash flow planning, and it is scary.
I think about the article in Fortune magazine this week titled, "Reinvent Your Career." about who can succeed in changing careers. Fortune reports that the people who can do it "are all people who love learning by doing. They are not victims. At a time when many people react passively to career bumps, reinventors took control."
I know the Farmer can succeed. He can be like the reinventors profiled in Fortune magazine. But I know that after two hours of pressing him, the most he can possibly say is that he's really disappointed by his parents' choices and he's scared about farming on his own. It's huge for him to say that.
I tell him he doesn't have to talk anymore. I thank him for talking for so long. And I thank him for sharing his feelings.
We leave. But not before we have make-up sex in the pig barn.




Penelope,
Great Post!
Posted by Fattore Zero on June 29, 2011 at 12:47 pm | permalink |
I like reading about big problems resolving happily.
But I'm worried that your ability to fight and make up is leading me to an unrealistic hope that if I just keep talking long enough I can resolve the problems in my 3-year relationship that is breaking up. I've got the police reports and anger thing happening here, but none of the positive career change plans and make-up sex.
Posted by Becky on June 29, 2011 at 12:50 pm | permalink |
Becky, read my lips: GET OUT NOW. I am sitting here, 18 years into a marriage that I should have left after he beat me up for the first time three weeks after we were married.
Because of years of stupidity and thinking "it's not so bad", I am now in the position of figuring out how to divorce without winding up getting hurt even worse. To make things worse, I just read an article about how much worse divorcing parents affect their teenage and young adult children.
You don't have kids so GET OUT NOW. Otherwise, mark my words, you will regret it every. single. day. Please don't doubt this.
Posted by ksand on June 29, 2011 at 10:36 pm | permalink |
Thanks for your concern. Luckily I'm not married or even cohabitating. I just have to deal with the emotional trauma of letting go, not all the practical things that you have to face.
I was married with children to someone else and worried about the impact of divorce on my teenaged kids. I hope it helps you feel better to know that one thing my ex and I can agree on is that the change was better for the kids, who are thriving now that they are not living in a strife-filled household.
Posted by Becky on June 30, 2011 at 11:28 am | permalink |
Ignore that hope. If there are problems that result in police reports, you cannot solve those problems by talking. Those problems can only be solved by you leaving.
Posted by KateNonymous on June 30, 2011 at 10:45 am | permalink |
Penelope, I love your blog. I love your honesty about your careers and your relationships. And while I don't agree with you on everything, I've learned a lot from reading about your experiences.
Oh, and also, I'm in love with your family's farm. The pictures and the bits and pieces of complicated logistics we get to peek into are absolutely fascinating.
Posted by Courteney on June 29, 2011 at 12:54 pm | permalink |
Penelope- Thank you. This hard conversation and realization for the farmer set against the landscape of the farm made for beautiful writing. Thank you for letting us share in your walk. Lessons abound. Big hugs, Somer
Posted by Somer on June 29, 2011 at 12:55 pm | permalink |
Ah, nothing like true confessions and a little "pig blood" to get the reunion juices flowing, eh?
Is this also where the Farmer and Melissa have their trysts?
Posted by David on June 29, 2011 at 1:04 pm | permalink |
Just from reading your blog, I have faith the farmer will be successful with his new farm. How scary and exciting for him! I know he's trapped in the scary right now, but he will evolve into the exciting soon enough. The other thing I know about the farmer from reading your blog is that he doesn't make impulse decisions; he must have thought a lot about this before he was able to even form the words. He's a good and smart decision maker who has earned the right to trust his instincts. I'm looking forward to reading more about this new adventure.
Posted by ResumeWriter on June 29, 2011 at 1:06 pm | permalink |
One of the few women I know who could have a roll in the hay involving actual hay….although probably not in the pig building.
Posted by Jens Fiederer on June 29, 2011 at 1:12 pm | permalink |
I just hope his parents don't read this blog. lol
Posted by Jeremy on June 29, 2011 at 1:38 pm | permalink |
I hope they do!
Posted by Sarah on June 29, 2011 at 2:13 pm | permalink |
I hope they do, too. They are some of the most controlling people I have ever heard of. They need to understand what their behaviour is going to cost them. Also, I think it would be nice if they heard about the make-up sex in the pig barn. Be sure to send a copy to his sisters, too!
Posted by Kay Lorraine on June 29, 2011 at 5:43 pm | permalink |
That was really fascinating to me. My husband and I used to fight similarly and I was always discouraged that we would have to have a massive knock-down, drag-out fight before we could get to the core of what was going on, discuss it and make up. I think it was juvenile and way too traumatic for the kids. (I'm using the past tense because my husband died seven months ago).
I often criticized my husband in the same way that you seem to criticize yours–as a way to get their attention and start acknowledging problems they seem to prefer to ignore even though they are taking a huge toll.
But my husband rarely criticized me. He thought everything I did was great and never judged me. Up until very recently I thought this was a wonderful characteristic. I thought that if I ever married again I wanted to find someone who was equally non-critical of me because I absolutely hate being criticized. But my mom said something to me a few days ago that made me re-evaluate that. She said, "But if no one ever calls you on your shit, how to you ever learn and get better?"
It sucks to get called on your shit. I think I hate it more than most people because I consider myself someone who holds myself to a high standard so no one should have a right to criticize me. But I only hold myself accountable for things I am aware that I am not doing well. I need someone to call me out on things about which I am in total denial. The tricky thing is that people usually hate the person who confronts them on things about which they are in total denial and seek to eliminate them from their life.
Penelope, I believe you are good for the Farmer in getting him to face and deal with problems and his feelings. The risk is that he'll hate you for it. I certainly hope he is wise enough to recognize that it is truly an act of love.
I'm thinking these days about what kind of person to choose if I remarry. Before I remarry, I would love to learn how to confront a partner about a sensitive subject and conversely, learn how to be confronted without the trauma (and drama) of a massive blowout first. Let me know if you figure that out.
Thanks to both you and the Farmer for sharing in such a candid manner. It was certainly food for thought.
Posted by Casey on June 29, 2011 at 1:53 pm | permalink |
Read anything written by John Gottman!
Posted by mysticaltyger on July 6, 2011 at 7:53 pm | permalink |
First of all thanks penelope for such a strong communication and conciousness for set of framer that is alternative the scenery of farm for awesome writing…..and specially thanks for sharing and giving us unique knowledge…
Posted by Umar Imtiaz on June 29, 2011 at 1:54 pm | permalink |
nyc post
Posted by adnan on June 29, 2011 at 1:55 pm | permalink |
great post, but I haven't quite figured out the connection to the title: where's the part telling people how to reinvent their careers? You usually break things down into points other people can use…
Posted by csts on June 29, 2011 at 2:13 pm | permalink |
I honestly believe that the best marriages are where you are driving each other nuts about half the time. So I would say you have a real authentic relationship.
Riley
Posted by Riley Harrison on June 29, 2011 at 2:19 pm | permalink |
Every guy I dated, I couldn't stand–and then we wound up in a relationship. Until Mr. Nonymous. He never drove me nuts, and I married him, and seven years later it just keeps getting better. So I think you're totally wrong.
Posted by KateNonymous on June 30, 2011 at 10:47 am | permalink |
i love this post and i'm sure farmer will do fine. xxx
Posted by J on June 29, 2011 at 2:22 pm | permalink |
Wow: "He would rather stay single than have a hard conversation". That hit home and helps me understand my separation after 22 years with someone who wouldn't have the hard converations – I think they are a 'normal' part of life – they don't happen everyday, but when they do, it is important to talk them out until they are resolved. Well done!
Posted by Deborah on June 29, 2011 at 2:38 pm | permalink |
I don't know his parents or his relationship with them. However, I think the Farmer's parents did him a favor by writing him out of their will. I really can't imagine such a scenario and how tough it must be for him. In any case, he has a better understanding where he stands (I think) but he needs time to process it. Probably why he uses the word 'transition' to get started on his own acreage. My advice – can't start soon enough.
Posted by Mark W. on June 29, 2011 at 2:49 pm | permalink |
Great teamwork, I'd say. Great principles: keep talking; no family secrets; never go to bed angry . . .
In addition, you probably know the Farmer better than his folks do at this point. You know that he is someone who learns by doing (per Fortune predictions) and he is not passive, nor is he a victim. You have seen him in new roles–mate and father.
His parents may still see him as their boy, instead of seeing him as a man who is seasoned/competent in farming.
Finally, everyone has to break away from their parent (figures) sooner or later. I think striking out on your own is a given.
It is a harsh thing to "cut out" a son and/or adopted grand-children from your will. It is a thing that will alienate a son. If the Farmer feels alienation, it may be his parents setting it in motion, rather than the Farmer wanting to strike out on his own.
Posted by chris Keller on June 29, 2011 at 2:56 pm | permalink |
SO true about who knows the Farmer best. Controlling families always think that they know the now-adult "kids" best (and apparently those kids never change). Not at all true, especially when the adult-kids have come into their own with traits that the elders cannot accept (like any kind of thinking for themselves).
The "not real kids" thing is just evil. My most controlling, most "I know everything about you and you are just like me" (wrong!! I'm not an alcoholic racist, for starters…) family member makes a point of either calling out kids in the family who aren't "really" family members, or snarling at her own kids that they "better not adopt any Asian babies" anytime in the future, because she won't accept them. Evil, evil, evil, evil.
Funny, so many families that have bugs up their butts about who may and may not belong also don't have families that anyone would want to be a part of. Shit, in my case I'd rather be adopted (that way I wouldn't have their tainted genes).
Posted by MJ on June 30, 2011 at 9:40 am | permalink |
It makes sense, evolutionary, for people to not want people who aren't biologically related to them to inherit their wealth, and to prefer that it be inherited by their biological descendants. It's an extremely natural motivation.
Posted by tal on July 5, 2011 at 3:07 am | permalink |
I laughed a little laugh of triumph for you and the Farmer at the end of that post when you said you had make up sex in the pig building. I guessed and hoped you would.
And I am definitely going to keep this post in mind when talking to my own husband, who sometimes takes a long time to come to what he's actually upset about. Just keep him talking. About anything. I'd like to be less afraid of yelling or even saying true if hurtful things too, if that's what it takes to get to what you really need to talk about.
Posted by Meg on June 29, 2011 at 3:20 pm | permalink |
I am glad the farmer is considering branching out on his own.
This quote: "…keeping family secrets only serves to protect people who treat family members like shit" should be made into a bumper sticker.
Posted by Susan Tiner on June 29, 2011 at 3:28 pm | permalink |
I like how you hear what he means until he means what he says. He is lucky, although it sounds a bit difficult too.
Posted by lestamore on June 29, 2011 at 3:38 pm | permalink |
I must be sentimental since I just about shredded a tear for the farmer on how he opened up. I wish your relationship was easier, but it seems you two need each other. Reading your stories hurt and scares me inside sometimes due to the honesty of your thoughts and feelings, but I love how you write. I learn something new (I haven't quite figured out what yet) when I reach in and try to figure out what's going on. Good luck and thank you.
Posted by Kim on June 29, 2011 at 3:50 pm | permalink |
He probably doesn't yet realize that the new farm venture he is about to take, is why you and he are where you are suppose to be. With your help, he will succeed.
Posted by lynne whiteside on June 29, 2011 at 4:06 pm | permalink |
By jingo, that was a corker! That was like the thin, high, nasty, metal string on some ancient instrument that you were tuning and tuning and tuning and … But there was no snap. Only a wonderful resolution. Who'd have thought a crazy person could play therapist so well?! I am so rooting for the Farmer. And I ain't even a hog. And, being Australian, I usually eschew terms like 'rooting' and 'hog'. That's the effect you have, Penelope. You're skewing my argot! And I'm a bloody copywriter! Go you! Go the Farmer!
Posted by Paul Hassing on June 29, 2011 at 4:24 pm | permalink |
I think it's great the way you and the farmer both aggravate and negotiate each others weaknesses.
Posted by Twister on June 29, 2011 at 4:30 pm | permalink |
I am so psyched – and jealous – that you had make up sex in the pig barn. I was hoping that is where it was going.
I am always fascinated by the total lack of responsibility on the part of doctors to adequately warn patients about withdrawing from narcotics!! It blows my mind. My dad was totally addicted to oxycontin after some back pain stuff and he almost lost his mind. how can doctors be so lame???
at least you got laid out of it.
I love this line about reinventing yourself: people who can do it "are all people who love learning by doing. They are not victims." I think I love it because I have reinvented myself several times… and the ParmFarm is basically about 'growing' by reinventing yourself.
I feel for the farmer. I hope he is able to make the transition without the need for more percocet!!
He is lucky to have your support.
Amy Parmenter
The ParmFarm
Posted by Amy Parmenter on June 29, 2011 at 4:34 pm | permalink |
Penny,based on a McKinsey Quarterly article that I read a while ago,
http://www.mckinseyquarterly.com/The_perils_of_bad_strategy_2826
you guys need to plan your strategy more actively. You've already identified his problem: he's scared of change, risk, starting over. This is the most important part; he needs to embrace this reality. Now, as you guys have already started to do, he needs to decide on the obstacles he will face in being on a new smaller farm not owned by his parents – then come up with a strategy to overcome the problems. Simple plan, but based on realistic assumptions. What really matters to him, you and the family, or that specific piece of land?
I hope it all works out, he's got a good mentor to work through it all, but he has got to want the change for the right reasons.
My2centsworth
Posted by Dale on June 29, 2011 at 5:42 pm | permalink |
Reinvented myself 3 years ago – auto engineer to healthcare. Unsure at the time, but now – best move ever.
Posted by Jason Kilgore on June 29, 2011 at 5:50 pm | permalink |
The poor confused pigs…:)
Posted by Dale on June 29, 2011 at 5:53 pm | permalink |
Just found your blog and love it. As a farmers daughter who is learning about being lost in her soon to be 40's. You are speaking my language. I love it.
The family farming situation is hard to learn coming into it from the outside…but you are echoing phrases I hear from my friends entering the farming world. There are no easy solutions.
Best wishes to you and thanks for your blog.
Posted by Jen on June 29, 2011 at 6:52 pm | permalink |
This was a really sensitive and endearing story, Penelope. I just had to say this right away, before I read the other comments. Now I understand why the farmer loves you.
Irv
Posted by Irving Podolsky on June 29, 2011 at 7:03 pm | permalink |
Hey P'lope,
Nice one! Wasn't that long ago that you'd have bailed on your side of the conversation and someone would have slept on the couch. Bravo.
Just to state it: you can only do your side of communication. By refusing to drop it, change topics, etc., the conversation has a chance to "come around" to somewhere.
But it requires the willingness to stay put and stay centred, and on point. Not for the other person to do so, as you can't control the behaviour of another (or tell him what to do, or anything manipulative…)
You can invite him into dialogue about who he is and what he wants–not in ref. to his parents and the farm, but in ref. to the reality of the will thing.
Scary likely. And right now, in this moment, you are right there.
It never gets better than that. St stand forth, and to stand with.
You. Go. Girl!
Warm hugs, W
Posted by Wayne Allen on June 29, 2011 at 7:15 pm | permalink |
Go, Farmer, go. You can totally do it. A fresh start on land you own outright with a wife that might drive you batty, but is apeshit smart and the one rooting for you.
Posted by sut on June 29, 2011 at 7:21 pm | permalink |
I adore you! You never cease to delight and make me throw back my head in laughter. I always look forward to reading your posts.
Rp
Posted by Robbin on June 29, 2011 at 7:33 pm | permalink |
Dear Penelope,
I know you're not going to like what I'm about to ask. How often do you yourself get outside your comfort zone? Why not stretch your limits of empathy and try for a little compassion towards the Farmer's family, especially towards his mom and dad? I mean, it totally sucks that his parents cut him out of the will, I agree. And his sisters do seem shrew-like, for sure (by your account!). But, I don't see how the Farmer could be such a wonderful person without some of the credit going towards his parents, who raised him. Think about how the situation might look from their perspective. They didn't grow up in a world where people talk about "transparency". More than likely, they prefer not to have their "dirty laundry" publicized for the world to see. Instead of trying to reinvent the farmer's career, why not try a simple afternoon cup of tea with your mom-in-law (even though you may prefer Melissa's company). I guess I don't really know that you haven't already tried that, but I'm making the assumption. I don't think you are unique in having in-law problems. I also don't think, from reading your blog throughout the past year, that you have made an honest and sincere effort to actually befriend the farmer's family. It doesn't matter that they don't share the same world view as you and it's unrealistic to expect them too.
My opinions are to some extent based on my own experience. I have discovered that, most of the time, it is far more valuable to keep the peace then to encourage division. Wow! How brazen would it be, if the next thing I knew, Penelope Trunk helped make her farmer's family business a total success? I'm sure you can!
Posted by Rachel on June 29, 2011 at 8:12 pm | permalink |
I think this is the most important part of your comment: " I guess I don't really know that you haven't already tried that, but I'm making the assumption."
I think the assumptions we make reveal more about ourselves that the people we assume things about.
Also, I could tell you about how I'm out of my comfort zone because I went from LA to NY to a farm. But the truth is that every marriage that stays together requires both people to go way outside their comfort zone, at some points. That's how hard marriage is. The longer someone has been married, I think, the more times you can assume they have been out of their comfort zone.
Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on June 30, 2011 at 7:57 am | permalink |
Hi again!
Well I tossed and turned a bit last night when I realized that what I had wrote would not only be unpopular with you, but maybe with your readers as well. Most people don't get along well with their in-laws, I think. So the idea that one should get along with their in-laws as a solution to their problem would be absurd.
Dear Penelope, I agree with you that being in a relationship might be the single most get-out-of-your-comfort-zone experience. Wholeheartedly. And I also agree that someone who can reinvent their career time and time again, while moving all over the globe, is most likely a person who thrives from challenging themselves to grow outside their natural boundaries. This is why I follow your blog and this is also why I choose bits of your wisdom to apply to my own life (the ones that fit me!). But I would also suggest from my incomplete view of the situation, but also as an impartial observer, that it is more within your comfort zone to do the above then what I have suggested, which is to apply a little diplomacy, some respect, and genuine kindness to your difficult situation. Believe me when I tell you that I know what it is to navigate difficult familial relationships that seem political at times. I really don't think the in-law relationship can ever be easy, but I can tell you from my very own experience (which involves exceedingly-complex family dynamics), that over time, and with patience, some nurturing, and by occasionally shutting your mouth, you might begin to see some of the gems that come along with these relationships. You may know what it is to be counted as a daughter to your farmer's family and that is all the reward you will need.
I hope I can help you, but it may be that my advice truly misses the mark for you. In which case, I sincerely apologize and will remain your fan and follower!
Posted by Rachel on June 30, 2011 at 8:44 pm | permalink |
I just wanted to let you know that this entry made me cry. You are my absolute favorite writer.
Posted by Elizabeth on June 29, 2011 at 8:42 pm | permalink |
Mad props for managing to paint yourself as a victim a la the farmer's parents actions are destroying their son's self-respect and he's taking it out on you. That there is the work of a true master. The only reason you've made it this long on the farm is because you're using another human being as a pressure relief valve for the untenable situation in which you've put yourself (you hate having to stay, but you have nowhere to go). When she leaves, how will it work? But yeah, it will all be cool once the farmer learns to open up and releases his inner re-inventor and he figures out how to gross 2k/acre on a 125 acre patch and still keep the lights on. And you're just the person to âhelp'. You've written enough about your consternation with ag-family-ag-land dynamics that the score is obvious: You're one part gold-digging interloper and one part tourist, using this family as hapless players in your own little destructive theater of life, trying to bag a little coin in the process. It's not hard to see the farmer's parents writing the son out of their will as anything other than a smart, fail-safe measure designed to keep your drama paws off the family's wealth. Like some invading western european army trying to take control of Moscow, you're at the point where you realize you're not getting what you came for, so now you're going to try to burn everything up on your retreat. But you're not getting the land, too. So, in a few years, when you're long gone, maybe the family can try to re-group, heal, and then move on, âpost-penelope'. He's dissappointed with his parents now, but it won't be long before he sees just how prudent they were and realizes that they're really acting out of love.
Posted by ava haas on June 29, 2011 at 9:06 pm | permalink |
Excuse me?
Do you actually know P and family so intimately that you can judge them so harshly, or do you just routinely read random blog entries and spew your hate and negativity willy-nilly?
How utterly uncouth.
Go away, little gnat.
Posted by Diana on June 29, 2011 at 10:17 pm | permalink |
Is the comment really that harsh?
In the eyes of the Farmer's parents, the law, etc., they aren't his children. Penelope and the farmer married. If they were, the IRS would come after him for everything.
Posted by Nula on June 30, 2011 at 8:58 am | permalink |
Wondering if because the Farmer has a tough time talking to you about his love of the family farm – he likely has a very difficult time conveying that to his parents.
This reminds me of my work environment – I do a great job with no direction from my supervisor -but I work with what I have – and that was developed by a pre-existing system. For me to tell my boss that I do a great job during the employee ratings period – well – I would rather not have that conversation.
Posted by e on June 29, 2011 at 10:09 pm | permalink |
Interesting couple of new comments, looking at the other side. There always is one. I hope that the Farmer enjoys being forced to talk when he says he'd rather not and battling every day about whether or not his live is hell.
While the farmer's parents desire for biological grandchildren and a daughter in law who is more similar to them isn't unusual and they are free to dispose of their property in whatever way they choose, the farmer is correct to stand up for the family he has chosen.
I was previously married to a man who works for and co-owns a business with his family and there has always been a lot of drama. I was the one they approved of and the conflicts were with their son. It wasn't a good situation for anyone.
If the Farmer wants you Penelope to take an active role in his issues with his parents, then he is lucky to have you in his corner. If however, he feels you are pressuring him under duress (which there is a hint of in the way you describe your tactics) then if things go wrong, even if it is he who ultimately makes decisions, he could blame you for meddling.
Posted by Hazel on June 29, 2011 at 10:22 pm | permalink |
Just one suggestion – Percocet are not always addicting. It is possible to take them for extended periods and not become addicted. This is a bit of a sore point with me (no pun intended) because too often people don't use any painkillers for fear they will become addicts, when they really just need to understand how to use them safely. I'm not an expert on this but I did have to take Percocet for almost 2 years running, and when I had surgery to fix the core issue I happily left them behind.
Best plan of action – get to a pain management doctor who can advise you on using them without becoming addicted.
But if you have ZERO access to a pain management specialist, then I can pass on a couple tips that helped me during those 2 years:
1) If they are uncoated, you can split them and take a half-pill. That might make it possible to use 1/2 pill every 4 hours instead of 1 pill every 6. It helps keep the dose down. And knowing you can take another half-pill in just 4 hours lessens the chance you are in very bad pain by the time your next pill is scheduled. Splitting the pills into smaller, more frequent dosages helps even out the peaks & valleys in your pain (and relief from pain).
2) Don't take so much that you don't feel any pain. Your goal should be to change bad pain into just uncomfortable. There is a reason you are in pain, if you feel too good you can be tempted to over-do it. Keep the pain down to a reasonable level, but don't get rid of it completely.
3) You should not feel "high" on these – if you do, then you have taken more than you needed at that time. Ideally the Percocet will knock the pain back to where you can handle it – but it won't take it totally away and make you feel high or foggy.
4) Lastly – these things can slow down normal bowel function, so if you'll be on them for awhile make sure you drink a LOT of water and consider a fiber supplement.
5) Be really f-ing careful with these & write down each dose with the day & time. Be honest about the pain – does it really NEED a percocet right now or does it feel worse because 4 other things in your life are going to shit? It's a delicate balance to stay on top of pain to keep it from escalating to crazy-bad, while being careful to prevent overmedicating yourself.
Posted by Casual Observer on June 29, 2011 at 11:02 pm | permalink |
I was all ready to come to the defense of the farmer's point of view on this, but then he wound up getting laid in the end. I think he knows what he's doing.
Posted by brandon on June 29, 2011 at 11:49 pm | permalink |
It was a great piece – and would have been even without the sex-in-the-pig-barn ending. My big US company is in the process of selling off my division to an Indian company that specializes in outsourcing – the later claim to want to have a bigger footprint here in the States. Buying us workers up is a way around thier Visa shortage and having more US citizens on thier payroll will enable them to go after US government work. I am now in the process of looking back on my career, pulling from it the valuable tools and skills I have built up, and deciding with them how might I re-invent myself? Your Farmer is in much the same boat. Please go easy on him, this is no doubt a very stressful bump in the road.
Posted by Dean on June 30, 2011 at 12:16 am | permalink |
You don't sound like a bitch at all. You sound like a wife who gives enough of a shit about whats on your husband's mind to do what it takes to get him to talk. It sounds like love to me.
Posted by Brooke Farmer on June 30, 2011 at 1:50 am | permalink |
Very funny story, with great pacing! But I can't help feel sorry for the Farmer's family who are obviously finding all this exposure impossible to deal with! You have a lot of clout through your blog, and media profile.. perhaps they are letting you know that they also have power (over their land and their wills), and they can't be pushed around like everyone else in your life.
You are obviously a force to be reckoned with, but is this really a game you want to 'win'? I second Rachel's comments above, that his parents ought to get some credit for producing such a fine and loyal man!
Posted by Rita on June 30, 2011 at 2:31 am | permalink |
I've been reading your post since 2007 when I thought I wanted to do HR, but this post was really boring Penelope.
Posted by Melissa on June 30, 2011 at 3:12 am | permalink |
No what's boring Melissa is your comment… I needed a large coffee with three shots of espresso to response to your drivel… glad you didn't go into HR theirs enough heartless, self-serving, vindictive, corporate drones there already….
Posted by haitiangurL on July 1, 2011 at 10:17 am | permalink |
"I made sure to talk only about innocuous topics like the state of world politics, something that we'd never fight about." – lol, love that!
Posted by Kat on June 30, 2011 at 3:18 am | permalink |
All of this over percocet? Sounds like his side of the argument was after he stopped taking it because that's the most lucid discussion I've heard while in pain and on pain drugs. How many pills was he taking? An RX for 60 isn't unusual when the doctor is far away but from what you're saying, it sounds like he's been taking it for awhile. Opiates are addictive but they're proven to eliminate pain with one side effect: addiction. The new stuff the drug companies are peddling for pain were probably cooked in a meth lab and have all types of side effects, one of which is NOT getting rid of pain. If you want to argue, then telling him not to work while on drugs is logical, although my husband doesn't listen to this either. Unless his tolerance for percs is very low, it's unlikely he's addicted. Chronic pain is hell and opiates get rid of it. If an addiction ensues, it's more than just 60 pills that caused it.
Posted by Celine on June 30, 2011 at 5:24 am | permalink |
If there is a chronic condition causing pain and related to the hard physical labor involved in farming, then this is all the better rationale for scaling back on the farm work (or the size of the farm).
There is also significant danger involved in the operation of a farm. Using machinery and driving shouldn't be undertaken while on Percocet. Doing so amplifies the danger.
And Celine's point about having a rational discussion while in severe pain or while using a narcotic analgesic (such as Percocet) is well-taken.
Last, no one has yet given you credit, Penelope, for keeping things going while the Farmer was laid up. There is a lot of work to do on a farm. Kudos to you.
May appreciation continue to flow back and forth among you. Appreciation is golden.
Posted by chris Keller on June 30, 2011 at 6:02 am | permalink |
He's right to be disappointed by his parents choices.
The real bitch(es) sound like his parents.
I think I read once where you said he's the only "child" working the farm.
His parents sound like ingrates but I'm sure if they were pressed they'd stubbornly stick to their side of things and feel entirely righteous in doing so.
It's obvious they don't realize how lucky they are to have a child who is willing to continue their life's work.
I saw so much of this when I sold small businesses.
It's very rare to see a business succeed through successive generations.
It takes tremendous foresight and understanding (on the parents part) for this to happen.
It's obviously something the Farmer's parents don't possess.
Unless I'm missing something that hasn't been revealed and I must grant that's entirely possible.
Let them leave it to his three sisters and their progeny.
The very high likelihood is it'll all be gone w/in a year.
Then he can buy it for pennies on the dollar 'cause that's all it will be worth.
Posted by Maureen Sharib on June 30, 2011 at 6:16 am | permalink |
Obviously you don't know what agricultural land is worth in Wisconsin. That land is worth a great deal of money, even as the residential market continues to deflate. You can own land, farm it or rent it out to a tenant-farmer, and still sit on a considerable asset value.
Posted by m on July 6, 2011 at 9:34 pm | permalink |
How is this reinventing a career? The farm operations & logistics is something that he is already pretty knowledgeable about? He has been in an entrepreneurship role. To me it seems a partnership breakup , something like a professional divorce. Penelope have you been through one like that – a professional breakup?
Posted by Sadya on June 30, 2011 at 7:00 am | permalink |
I've been trying to think of something to say – some healing balm to apply to this horrible disinheritance. I thought of this from the Old Testament Book of Habakkuk:
Though the fig tree does not bud and there are no grapes on the vines, though the olive crop fails and the fields produce no food, though there are no sheep in the pen and no cattle in the stalls, yet I will rejoice in the Lord, I will be joyful in God my Savior. The Sovereign Lord is my strength, he makes my feet like the feet of a deer, he enables me to go on the heights.
Posted by jen on June 30, 2011 at 9:10 am | permalink |
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Posted by Cyprus Holiday Reviews on July 5, 2011 at 9:39 am | permalink |
I feel for the farmer. I was in a similar situation with my family a few years ago and I chose to walk away from the family business & wealth because I didn't want them controlling my life. It was one of the hardest but best decisions I have ever made even though we didn't speak for 2 years. I am sure the farmer has the knowledge and ability to run his own farm with 40 years of experience and will be just fine. Best of luck to you two.
Posted by Holly on June 30, 2011 at 10:21 am | permalink |
Penelope, this is a great post. What I think is key here is NOT that you and the farmer fight, or that you drive each other crazy, but that each of you will work past that to actually talk about what's important to you.
Hopefully over time the two of you will have less crazy-making as a lead-up to discussion, but it's the discussion that will help you be strong together, not the drama in the warm-up portion.
Posted by KateNonymous on June 30, 2011 at 10:50 am | permalink |
Awesome post!
Posted by Jennifer on June 30, 2011 at 2:20 pm | permalink |
I actually don't think you're horrible following him around and not stopping talking to him. Sometimes it's just a matter of being there and talking that the tough conversation and opening up with really happen. I wish the farmer lots of luck with starting the new farm. I'm sure he'll be great, but any change is scary and it's good to have someone to talk to about it.
Posted by Heather on June 30, 2011 at 5:58 pm | permalink |
I really think that your problem solving technique will blow up in your face if you go to that strategy to often. Sometimes a man just needs to work some things through….forcing him before his time is a dangerous game. It worked this time….but I wouldn't go there to often.
Some issues can't be resolved through force of will. Some of the comments from other people have been right on….everyone loves the farmer, and everyone wants the best for him. Sometimes it is thought that someone's silence is problem avoidance, when in reality not everyone works through at the same pace. Love the crap out of him and understand that quiet support is sometimes the best therapy. Good luck P and remember life is a long journey.
Posted by Telemon on June 30, 2011 at 6:43 pm | permalink |
My mom (and me by extension since I was still a kid) has been there and done that. It did not end well.
There was a farm. A prenup shutting her out. Bitchy sisters. I was ostracized. My mom was ignored.
The guy was never able to make the break from the family. They manipulated his perceptions, made him believe my mother was in it for the money (like the prenup didn't exist). It was ugly and sad. Mostly sad for him. He's still part of that family. We got out.
I hope you have a happier ending.
M
Posted by NetWriterM on June 30, 2011 at 8:41 pm | permalink |
I've reinvented my career many times, it's been a transition really all for the best. Your blog looks great now Penelope, even though it has ads on. Brilliant:)
Posted by Annabel Candy on July 1, 2011 at 1:50 am | permalink |
good post.
Posted by fairytale on July 1, 2011 at 5:01 am | permalink |
Is your marriage to the farmer his first? If so you have to ask why and was his relationship with his parents part of the reason he was single so long? If so, getting married was part of ins establishing his independence. Ultimately what the family has is the land. The livestock can be sold and all that's left is the land and buildings. The land can be rented, maybe for not as much income but most likely rented. The farmer can rent more land and buy the livestock, or raise it and share a percentage of profit upon sale.
Is the issue that they want to control who gets the land upon their death? Or ia the issue they don't like you?
The farm can be put into an S Corp which gives other options on how the shares are handled.
Would they have changed their will no matter who he married?
A few questions to ponder there P.
Posted by Carl on July 1, 2011 at 5:51 am | permalink |
Funny, as I was reading this post I couldn't help thinking how great the font here is. I love Gawker and Huffington Post but their font could be a lot cleaner.
But as ever, Penelope another great post and my heart goes out to the farmer. Transitions are hard no matter how exciting or needed they are. Theirs a reason why we get stuck in our routines their comforting and safe. But soon the new will become old as it too becomes a routine, putting you back in the comfort zone sweet spot.
So take heart, a new familiar is just around the corner and when it happens you'll shake your head wondering why you fought the change so hard in the first place.
Posted by haitiangurL on July 1, 2011 at 10:00 am | permalink |
I am an occasional visitor to this blog. I never comment due to the fact that I actually know this family…I cannot believe what is happening with the Farmer and his parents. He has worked side by side his entire life with them and now this???? I actually feel that the Farmer enjoyed his pre-Penelope years doing what he was doing and that is farming side by side with his Father…and to my best guess, his father had the same feeling. Do you really blame the parents for not wanting them to see everything lost that they worked so hard for? You admit in earlier blogs to your past "financial" struggles. Why then, would you expect them to hand over all assets to the Farmer to in turn see them lost to the government, neighbors or any other interested party???? Let's say it does not work out with you and the Farmer…then what? He tries to rebuild a farming operation at the age of 40+, with 125 acres, old machinery and few animals??? In this day and age…not possible. If you cared at all for what is happening in the "Farmer Family" you would suck it up and FORCE the Farmer to try and make amends with the family. From what I have read, especially in this last post, you are good at that. Afterall, they helped make him into the man that you fell in love with.
Posted by Astonished reader on July 1, 2011 at 10:29 am | permalink |
@ Astonished Reader.
I, too, am an astonished reader, but I am astonished that the land is more important than the family loyalty. It is not only children who are required to be loyal to their parents. I am astonished that the parents are not loyal to their son.
If you give any gift to anyone, under any circumstances, you do so with an open hand. You have nothing to say about how the gift is used. The recipient may do what s/he chooses with the gift.
The farm is/will be the gift. The Farmer can do with it what seems best to HIM. The parents who give the land have given it with strings attached. To me, that is ignoble.
The parents are effectively saying: You can have the land provided a) you don't marry; or b) if you marry, we must approve your selection; and last c) any children who are not biologically "ours" are also not entitled to any gifts.
Posted by chris Keller on July 1, 2011 at 2:27 pm | permalink |
this is just indicative of someone who is completely unfamiliar with how farming and farm families work.
given enough time, the farmer's family might have come around. this is probably how he felt about it. i'm guessing he wanted to let it lay because there was nothing to be gained from poking the hive and, given enough time, they might mellow toward the situation or begin to accept it or move microscopically closer to compromise.
there is what they *say* and what they *do* and while i get that what they say is offensive, they may have kept a tight hold on their convictions and still bent toward giving him what he wanted in time.
i can certainly understand why you wouldn't want to grant them the grace to get there slowly, especially since there was no guarantee they would get there in time (or soon enough to suit you), but it might have done the trick. everything you do from here on out either confirms their opinion of you or forces them to change their opinion (and they'll rewrite history so it seems like they've been consistent all along).
Posted by Lori on July 2, 2011 at 10:14 am | permalink |
@ Lori:
How much time do you give the parents to come around? Doesn't alienation/a feud grow the longer it lasts? Isn't reconciliation more difficult as time goes on?
I think what you are saying, Lori, is to give them (the parents) time to think about it. Meanwhile, the Farmer and Penelope and the boys may want to move on. Sounds as if the Farmer has a Plan B in mind. The Farmer can hardly spend his time and energy feeling disenfranchised/hurt. He is wisely, IMHO, moving on.
AND maybe we can allow that the farm-family value of keeping the land in the family is not carved in stone for the Farmer.
We don't really know . . .
Posted by chris Keller on July 2, 2011 at 5:10 pm | permalink |
Adulthood can be defined as both physical maturity AND emotional independence from parents. Obedience and loyalty to "parents first" isn't adulthood. Think farmer was long held to be an adult-child, subject to parents' final decisions and direction, and for better (or worse) he's now cleaved (old bible word, no?) to a common-law wife. Technically she's not "family" in legal sense of marriage definition, though common-law wives accrue certain legal rights as well. Plenty of advice columns counsel that parents should remain "hands-off" their adult off-springs' relationships – perhaps the longstanding father-mother-son dynamic here provided an extra emotional shock when the son finally established an independent household (that came with children). Granted P is a near alien to the environment of Iowa County, but seems that son is truly attracted to her, and vice-versa. This couple must be given a reasonable opportunity to establish a solid marital relationship without parental interference, heavy-handed retribution, and draconian "she or us" theatrics.
His parents don't sound like nice people.
Posted by m on July 6, 2011 at 9:44 pm | permalink |
Hooray!! That is what a GOOD marriage looks like. You love him enough to make him uncomfortable for his own self-interest.
The farmer is a man of integrity, and his parents are idiots to not see that, and lose him.
Posted by Tzipporah on July 1, 2011 at 1:52 pm | permalink |
Oh dear, this is an example of a good marriage? As there are many young marrieds and perhaps singles out there reading this blog, please understand that Penelope & the Farmer's marriage may be many things, but unlike Tzipporah, I don't think I would call it the paragon of excellence in a marriage. You know there are couples that can open up to each other like the farmer briefly did all the time? And that they can open up to each other without having a huge screaming match involving a "fuck you" thrown in for good measure? Don't get me wrong even couples in "good" marriages fight, even loudly but not like this. Another poster said it earlier, read anything by John Gottman. If you are thinking about getting engaged, newly engaged, dating, single or married for a long time please read, The Seven Principles of Making Marriage Work, for marriage advice. I wouldn't model it on Penelope & the Farmer. If you haven't read the book, you might consider reading it Penelope. It made a huge difference for me as I was facing some bumps in my marriage. It is an easy non-preachy read that makes a lot of sense. You will see that the "The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse" (what he calls the 4 key marriage killers:criticism, defensiveness, stonewalling, and contempt) gallop across your marriage as if it were an endless pasture. He also talks about understanding the difference between solve-able problems and non solve-able problems. Being able to identify the difference between the two and focusing your energies (as a couple) on solving the solve-able ones. In your case I see the whole parents/land/disinheritance issue(s) as non solve-able problem(s). Yet you keep trying to solve them. The good news, even in "good" marriages you can have unsolve-able problems and you don't even have to fix them, you can't actually and that's okay. In the end, I admit that no one really knows what is going on in another person's marriage. I don't know what's really going on in yours. I am only basing it on what you write on your blog (not just in this post either). You are still together after 3 years, that in itself says a lot. I would say you have an interesting marriage, and as you have often said you would rather be interesting rather than happy perhaps that is good enough. Just not sure that interesting is enough for the long-haul when it comes to marriage….something to think about.
Posted by betty in munich on August 2, 2011 at 8:26 am | permalink |
Family ties are more powerful than anything in this world. Penny, you can't change the farmer, you can only adjust his path…
Posted by Dale on July 1, 2011 at 2:32 pm | permalink |
I sympathize with you (and the farmer). My dad has a similar problem with his mom. He's 56 and she still tells him to be a 'good son' and a 'good brother' and when she says that it really means 'do what I say'. His stake in his inheritance is her leverage. It's not much, but is the land he was raised on, and the home he grew up in, and he loves it. He still spends his time on the upkeep and maintenance because he can't bring himself to let go. I really wish he would, but it's tough. He's in a crisis now trying to reinvent himself as a son, a father, and a person because he has to redefine family. My grandmother, bless her heart, is a misogynist and the only woman who (by her own claim) has ever been a competent wife or mother. My parents have been married for 30 years and she's still my dad's 'wife', not a d-i-l. Sometimes, there is no rationalizing with irrational people. I hope the farmer embraces this and uses his energy to create the life he wants, not the one he alwayws thought would come to pass.
Posted by MHug on July 1, 2011 at 2:49 pm | permalink |
So the key is reinventors love to learn by doing! Perfect. Does that mean they don't have all these emotions to work through? The Farmer is brave.
Posted by Sandra Pawula on July 1, 2011 at 10:50 pm | permalink |
The farmers' parents can't write him out of their will. I mean, they can write whatever they want in their will, but if they don't include the farmer, the will won't stand up to a challenge. They don't have to leave him the farm but they do have to leave "proper and adequate provision". Truth.
Posted by Caitlin on July 2, 2011 at 10:12 am | permalink |
"Proper and adequate provision" can be as little as a dollar.
Posted by awiz8 on July 2, 2011 at 1:10 pm | permalink |
I am soooo addicted to lurking on your blog and reading you (LOL). Wishing you and the farmer the very best with the transition.
Posted by C Tann Starr on July 3, 2011 at 8:19 am | permalink |
I want your kitchen. I wish I could think of a job that a person like me could do that would ever let me have a kitchen as nice as that.
Posted by Laura-F on July 3, 2011 at 9:43 am | permalink |
Yes. I noticed the kitchen, as well. I think the kitchen tells Penelope's readers a great deal about her and the Farmer and their life together. Penelope is orderly. She surrounds herself with quaint beauty. She values cleaning and devalues "stuff" and clutter.
The kitchen photo also tells a lot about Penelope's skill (or Melissa's?) at photography and picture composition . . .
Posted by chris Keller on July 3, 2011 at 10:25 am | permalink |
Laura – you'll be happy to know that including nicknacks like the baskets, the kitchen cost less than $3000. The refrigerator is 8 years old, used. And so is the stove. (They are both totally yucky, but they look good). The three pieces of antique wood furniture are from Craigslist – total of $1500 (if you have a Farm truck and a farmer to pick the stuff up
The sink was $900 (antique), and the pot rack was $300.
So, I'm happy to tell you that you could work at McDonald's for three months and have my kitchen for yourself!
Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on July 3, 2011 at 11:30 pm | permalink |
awesomeeeee story!!!!
(:
from the Comedy Sketch Guys
Posted by Thor on July 3, 2011 at 3:03 pm | permalink |
Great post! I can relate to a lot of it, and I have to say, you handled this with aplomb! Well done. I also have to say as a long time reader that you surely have "gone country"! I mean, on a couch in a pig barn?
Posted by CJ on July 3, 2011 at 8:03 pm | permalink |
Penelope
You have great pacing. I enjoy your writing though don't always agree with your point or your viewpoint. That said, this is a blog I read regularly because you grab the bull by the horns on so many interesting issues.
Two questions – how does criticism of your writing/decisions etc affect you and 2) how do you handle it?
Best wishes and keep writing!
Posted by Leonie on July 3, 2011 at 8:05 pm | permalink |
Leonie, I've written a few posts about how I deal with the commenters. By far, the best ones were on Yahoo Finance, where someone had in their job description to monitor comments for absolute insanity each hour, because it was so frequent.
Here's a post about those commenters:
http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/02/02/pay-attention-to-your-critics-at-least-some-of-them/
And here's a more general post on the topic of critics:
http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/12/24/learn-to-take-criticism-well-by-choosing-your-critics-well/
Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on July 3, 2011 at 11:38 pm | permalink |
Well I had to take another look at the post because obviously I missed the kitchen picture! It's lovely, and is just what I would expect at a working farm. Yes I would expect Pen to be tidy as well.
Have you ever considered a business at the farm where city folk are invited to come stay for a short period (a farm vacation) to play/work with the animals, gardens, tractors, and other elements? We don't get out much, and this is a recurring fantasy that many city people have. You wouldn't be the first, but I bet you would be the best. Your farm has lots of soul!
Posted by Diana on July 3, 2011 at 11:20 pm | permalink |
Yes! I think of this all the time. I'm planning to do it next summer. And have some sort of signup sheet or something. If you want to sign up now, email me. All weeks are available. And we haven't renovated the building I want to use, so we'll put your deposit toward the renovation and then you can weigh in with how you'd like the place to look when you get here
Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on July 3, 2011 at 11:33 pm | permalink |
Oh..now see, I was serious and for almost the whole day I thought you were too. I mean I was ready to send the DEPOSIT!!
And, I STUCK UP for you!
Ok you are still funny
Posted by Diana on July 4, 2011 at 9:35 pm | permalink |
If you weren't serious, Penelope, you ought to be.
People (like Diana) would pay good money to come and learn at your knee.
If you could stand it.
Design a course on how to write about gut stuff.
Let the (hard) farm work demonstrate the physical challenges and the (hard) writing work, the emotional challenges.
Companies would pay this easily to help their employees learn to communicate better.
Communication is the new must-have skill nowadays.
$2500 for a three day / two night stay would be cheap.
Look into the Dark Angel program in Europe.
Posted by Maureen Sharib on July 5, 2011 at 7:05 am | permalink |
I'm serious. Really. I have thought about it a lot. But I needed time to get used to living there first. To see what was possible. By next summer I'll know the farm well enough to have people there as paid guests.
Also, there must be a way to make that work well with my goat cheese business. You should pay to come to the farm and learn to make goat cheese! You can bring it home to your friends!
Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on July 8, 2011 at 12:46 am | permalink |
http://www.dark-angels.org.uk/
Posted by Maureen Sharib on July 5, 2011 at 7:11 am | permalink |
great move..
Posted by Cyprus Holiday Reviews on July 5, 2011 at 9:41 am | permalink |
Penelope, as a long time reader I loved this post. But I was re-reading the first bit again, above the picture.
Congrats on getting through without letting chaos overwhelm you. I know this has been difficult for you (no more house manage I suppose?)
Sometimes we forget that even if small things go wrong (like the goats getting into the kitchen) it's not a big deal when considering the larger picture.
Good luck to you and the farmer
Posted by Aisha - Fitness Motivator on July 5, 2011 at 4:23 pm | permalink |
* I meant "no more house manageR"
Posted by Aisha - Fitness Motivator on July 5, 2011 at 4:24 pm | permalink |
Go, Farmer, Go – you can do it! Your own 125! Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!
Thanks, Penelope – You've helped me see myself. I'm too often silent like The Farmer.
Posted by Marsha Keeffer on July 5, 2011 at 10:25 pm | permalink |
Hello!
I JUST discovered your blog and I love it! This is a great post and I love your ability to capture humor in maddening and touching situations. I also read some of the other comments and there's some serious stuff going on with people. It's very neat that your writing can draw others out and offer encouragement and support.
Additionally, I read your post "5 Time Management Tricks [You] Learned From Years of Hating Tim Ferriss." Another humorous and helpful post! … which makes me feel a little sheepish about suggesting someone else's book in your comments section…
But nevertheless I'm going to… I think a lot of people have difficulty opening up and expressing themselves, I certainly do (though Penelope you apparently don't! though the Farmer does). I've recently been rereading a book titled "Non-Violent Communication: a Language of Life," by Marshall Rosenberg. It was assigned to me for a class, and the first time I read it I was so irritated! (Probably because I really needed listen!) However, frustrations with a few personal relationships led me to give it a second try and I'm much more sympathetic the second time around. I think Rosenberg gives some helpful suggestions for better connecting with our own feelings and communicating them to others (in a helpful manner). Perhaps especially importantly, it helps us engage with others to help them more easily let us in on what's really going on with them as well. I share this in the hopes that it might be appropriately helpful to others as well.
Again, great blog! I look forward to reading more!
Posted by Margaret on July 6, 2011 at 2:17 am | permalink |
That really sounds like quite the experience! Although percocet can be a serious thing… I'm glad everything ended up working out! It really is such a great situation for career advice as well.
Posted by Jobnab on July 6, 2011 at 3:16 pm | permalink |
Changing careers can be scary, but it can also be exhilarating. It's a bit like a rollercoaster.
I'm someone who's pretty cautious by nature, but I've done 3 career changes–not job changes, but career changes. I found that facing the new challenges was more exciting than stressful, and that definitely helped with the transitions.
My favorite career change by far though has been becoming self-employed. I started my own consulting business over 4 years ago, and have been doing it full-time for over 2 1/2 years. It's completely changed my outlook and worldview. I see more possibilities than I have time for, and not only do I make more than I ever did as an employee, I have much more flexibility. I can work when and where I want, so long as I get the work done and pay the bills.
I have a blog about my journey, as well as tips, tricks, and steps to take for others interested in starting a consulting business (http://www.StartMyConsultingBusiness.com).
I've found that fear often stops people from taking steps to change their situation, and I talk about how to overcome those fears on my blog. I also talk about practical, concrete things you can do to start and run a successful consulting business–or any business–along with tools, tips, tricks, and techniques for automating your business and keeping costs to a minimum.
Posted by Greg Miliates on July 6, 2011 at 6:16 pm | permalink |
The child says that he or she sees parents' backs and grows up.
I think that it should be steady for the child though I am child's parents.
Posted by toranosuke on July 7, 2011 at 9:18 am | permalink |
Man confides in woman. Woman blabs to the entire internet. Future: woman complains man won't confide with her.
Also, my guess is they are leaving the farm to Harold Camping!
Posted by Mark on July 7, 2011 at 9:47 am | permalink |
I got the book!!! Yay. It's beautiful. I want more books to look like that.
Posted by Kim on July 7, 2011 at 11:44 am | permalink |
Got my book today, too: THANKS, P ! IT'S LIKE CHRISTMAS IN JULY!
This September marks my career's 20th anniversery. Lots of ups & downs and many (hard) lessons learned along the way. As maddening as the journey has been at times, I wouldnt trade my career & experiences for anything.
=^..^=
Posted by lb on July 7, 2011 at 5:23 pm | permalink |
That is so hot.
Posted by Andrea on July 9, 2011 at 12:06 am | permalink |
You have past posts about your feelings of ineptitude in dating and relationships… and this post does not sound inept at all. How did you know that he needed to talk… when he didn't even know? When did you develop this approach to insisting that he talk?
Posted by curious on July 12, 2011 at 11:24 pm | permalink |
I just came across your blog for the first time today. I love your writing and story telling in your blogs so far. The farmer has a great lady by his side.. obviously!! Great stuff. Thank you for sharing part of your life with us here on the internet!
Posted by Kimberly on July 13, 2011 at 10:40 am | permalink |
God, you're a sick phuck.
Posted by John on July 14, 2011 at 2:58 am | permalink |
good on you, penelope, for insisting on a proper taper off of a drug like percocet. most people who don't bother to read about what they're prescribed are the same people who will try to do unrealistic things while under the influence of these narcotic molecules. to wit, there's far too much crime reportage these days about people admitting they did outrageous things while high on oxycontin and other narcotic painkillers. they honestly cannot assess their own actions while on them. no wonder stealing them/reselling is such a big business.
fun fact: the street value of one oxycontin pill is $20. the largest volume of oxycontin sellers? senior citizens with fairly free access to medical scripts for them.
Posted by thatgirl on July 15, 2011 at 2:54 pm | permalink |
Being 58, my career in advertising was going downhill. In order to learn the new tools of marketing and to spruce up my image, I staged a social media event in NYC. I took one month to walk every square mile of Manhattan and blogged about it, Facebooked, Tweeted, and checked in on FourSquare. While in the city, I took classes, made new contacts and am now back home, ready to go forward with new knowledge and a new image.
Posted by lisa on July 26, 2011 at 8:16 am | permalink |
Thanks for this wonderful post
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Posted by Ajit Maliakal on September 20, 2011 at 4:16 pm | permalink |
There are people who survive incredible abuse and develop into beautiful people. There are wonderful families who raise criminals. What the farmer's narcissistic parents have done is unforgivable. There was an unspoken trust, loyalty and expectation that he would inherit the farm. Strangers can see that. We are taught to trust our parents and being hurt by them goes to the core of our trust in humanity. A wise man once said, " never trust a man who does their own kid dirty."
Narcissistssuck.com is the best tool I have found for understanding and recovering from from family abuse.
Posted by Megoconnor16 on September 24, 2011 at 12:57 am | permalink |
Good thing the couch was in there!
Posted by Rust on November 12, 2011 at 10:51 pm | permalink |