The farmer broke up with me five times the first five months we were together, last year. So I learned that he had huge commitment issues.
I tried to do the advisable thing to do when you’re with someone who has commitment issues. I tried to fall in love with someone else. But I didn’t. I only missed the farmer more.
So I told myself that it’s okay to be with someone who has commitment issues, as long as I am having fun.
But my kids grew to love the farm, and the farmer, almost as quickly as I did. This makes sense. My oldest son was with me on my first visit to the farm, and if you have ever been on a working farm you know that to kids, it’s like Disney World.
So my kids were constantly asking to go to the farm, and constantly trying to figure out, what is the farmer? A friend? An uncle? And why did I kiss him if he’s not in my family?
This is not a good path for kids if the relationship isn’t going toward marriage. So I waited until a day when the farmer and I were holding hands, walking between rows of corn higher than our heads. And I told him that I can’t keep bringing the kids to the farm because we’re not getting married and I’m scared the kids will get hurt.
The farmer didn’t say anything for five minutes. And then he said, “Okay. Let’s get married.”
It’s taken me months to tell people. It’s taken me months because I sort of don’t believe it.
I didn’t want to write that I’m worried. You will tell me, in the comments section, “Don’t get married if you are worried!” But I’m not sure I’d ever NOT worry.
How can I not worry about marrying a farmer? I will be moving, with my kids, to his farm. The farm is in the absolute middle of nowhere, outside the town of Darlington, WI. And now, I guess this will be my debut in Darlington, because I’m pretty sure there will be no blog outranking me for that search term.
But if I didn’t marry the farmer, I would be worried, forever, that I should have married him.
So it’s not a hard decision to marry him. I have been married before, and I don’t think I’m going to change much, so I know what I need, and I know what I have to offer, and we are a good fit.
And, I have Asperger Syndrome, which could be summarized as raging intellect and acute sensitivity to outside input. So the farm is a perfect spot for my mind to explore while outside-my-mind is calm.
But I worry about the farm for my kids. One of my kids also has Asperger Syndrome, and he is completely addicted to the farm and the animals, and the farmer’s calm, slow, sunny demeanor. My other son does not have Asperger’s and probably does not need of the serenity of life on the farm.
Not that serenity is bad. And the family life that grows from farming is intimate and grounded and full of routine. All good things for kids.
But I grew up in a world where everything was open to me. Check out my high school: New Trier. It’s always ranked in the top twenty-five high schools in the country. I remember the principal telling us that the top 500 kids in our graduating class would go to colleges where most would be the valedictorians of their class.
At the time I didn’t understand how this could be. But now I understand that in order to compete at the top of the academic field, you need to be the number-one student in your small town.
Maybe not number one academically. But number one in soccer if you want to play soccer in college. And number-one in cello if you want to play in an orchestra in college.
Wait. No. It’s worse than that. Because in Darlington, there is no orchestra in high school. So where will my son play his cello in high school if he wants to play in college? And how will my boys learn to play soccer at a high enough level to play in college if all the kids on the coasts are getting private coaching? Where is the private coaching in Darlington?
It’s scary how limiting the choices are when you live in a place like Darlington. But competition is scary to me as well.
The reason I couldn’t keep playing professional beach volleyball is that I didn’t care enough about winning. To get to the very top of anything, you have to think you’re going to die if you don’t win.
That’s not me.
I belong on a farm, where life is slow, and rhythmic, and people are not breathing down my throat about getting the best of everything.
The farmer and I discuss this a lot. He went to graduate school for biology and hated it and went back to the farm. He thinks he could have done anything, so why won’t my kids be able to choose anything?
I am not sure. I am not sure if it’s my proximity to overachievers that gave me opportunities, or it’s my innate optimism and intelligence.
Then he tells me that what I really would have wanted from my childhood is to feel love and security, and why don’t we just focus on giving the kids that?
He’s right. But it’s hard for me to act on that. So I think this marriage and move are leaps of faith for me, hoping that love and security will trump opportunity and achievement. I hope I’m making a good decision for my sons.
The Story of the Farmer – From the First Day We Met:
June 2008 New Way to Measure Blog ROI
June 2008 How I started taming my workaholic tendencies
Oct. 2008 Self-sabotage is never limited to just one part of your life
Nov. 2008 Think of networking as a lifestyle, not an event
July 2009 The sign of a great career is having great opportunities, and saying no
Sept. 2009 How to deal with an insane commute
Oct. 2009 How to deal with doubt: Take a leap









Congratulations Penelope! It's been fun reading the developments with the Farmer. I wish you luck in this next chapter of your lives.
Posted by H to the Izzo on 10/22/2009 at 07:52am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congrats! Seriously. I'm getting married to a guy I've never shared a timezone with. The only way to know if it'll work is to DO IT.
Posted by Joanne on 10/22/2009 at 07:56am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Mazel-tov!
Posted by Jay Godse on 10/22/2009 at 08:01am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congrats to you and the farmer!
Posted by James E. Robinson, III on 10/22/2009 at 08:05am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I grew up in a small town in New England. Graduating class of 90, largest to ever go through my school.
I went to the top engineering school in the country. I had friends in my class who went to Ivies and "Little Ivies".
College admission offices get that you can't take all APs your senior year because they aren't offered at your school. The question in their minds are instead, what did you do to replace that opportunity.
And what is great in a small school is you can really make yourself stand out in any way you'd like and everyone is willing to help. So, there is no orchestra? If your son really wants to play, he can work with the music teacher to start a chamber music group. No private soccer coaching? Work with the soccer coach to go to AAU camps or similar. The opportunities are there, you just find them a bit differently than you do in the city.
Posted by Amanda on 10/22/2009 at 08:05am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hello Penelope. I agree that one of the ways to deal with doubt is to just go for it and have faith in what you're doing.
If you sit back and always wonder "what-if", then you'll always have this regret that fills you up from inside.
I'm glad you made a decision, instead of being doubtful. Whatever happens, it'll just make you stronger.
Thanks for sharing this story and I hope things work out with the farmer and your family.
Posted by Tristan Lee on 10/22/2009 at 08:06am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations, Penelope – wishing you and the farmer every happiness in your new life together :-)
Posted by Pat Patterson on 10/22/2009 at 08:06am | permalink | Reply to this comment
It may not seem related, but I have to wonder:
Does the farmer call you Penelope, or Adrienne?
What do your kids think your first name is? When they grow up, will they introduce you as Penelope or Adrienne?
Posted by Anna on 10/22/2009 at 08:16am | permalink | Reply to this comment
So many people ask me this! The farmer calls me Penelope. Sometimes he calls me P. The kids introduce me as Penelope. They know that I have another name, but they know almost no one ever uses it.
–Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on 10/22/2009 at 09:06am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hi Penelope,
I've been reading your blog for a long time now and just wanted to come across and wish you all the best with this new change in your life. Even though I only know "the farmer" from your articles, this sounds like a lovely way to raise a contented family. I hope you'll all be very happy together, learn a lot from this new experience, and discover lots of wonderful benefits from living away from the city!
Congratulations to you all!
Posted by Rosie on 10/22/2009 at 08:25am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Based on the median income on the Darlington, WI demographics listed on the website you'll have the $40,000 you need to be happy (http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2004/08/01/you-only-need-40000-to-be-happy/)
Posted by Mary Kate on 10/22/2009 at 08:26am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I love, love, love this story. Small towns can be limiting socially and academically but ultimately if someone wants to be a high achiever the town is usually very supportive of their efforts. I grew up on a farm in SW Minnesota and went on to do a bunch of cool things yet now my 5-year plan is to own a small farm of my own. Good luck and congratulations!
Posted by Michaela on 10/22/2009 at 08:34am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I grew up on a farm in SW Minnesota too, and I echo your analysis of small towns. Went far away to college, now looking at top law schools… my brother is thinking about taking over the farm and eventually I will probably help him.
Posted by Rita on 10/22/2009 at 11:45am | permalink | Reply to this comment
OK Penelope… I'm compelled. I respect your intellect and your Brazen honesty. I find it refreshing. But it also opens a can of worms… in so much as, if I pose the question in my head, from one raging intellect to another, I must also take responsibility for the doubt it may perpetuate regarding the "commitment" contemplated in this post. I don't wish to be perceived as "that guy." But, again, your honesty strikes a chord with me and I feel compelled…and would like to believe that it will be received in the helpful, open, honest spirit as it is intended. So… *gulp*… here'ya go;
Why would you marry someone with truly demonstrated "commitment issues?"
I understand "faith." I'm an inherent risk taker and believer. I support independence and freedom at every corner. I don't even know you and I'd back your decision because of your honesty and bravery…and my belief in a persons right to try whatever they believe will work. (God knows that's how I live my life…undefined by others.) But this decision is H-U-G-E.
Please be certain to examine it carefully. Don't forget the reality of the damage caused by a failed marriage.
My wish? My wish would be that it works out perfectly for you and your children. All the best to you and yours. Sincerely.
Posted by medXcentral (Jim) on 10/22/2009 at 08:37am | permalink | Reply to this comment
It seems to me that the farmer has demonstrated he is over the commitment issues by asking Penelope to marry him, kids and all. He's making the commitment.
Posted by Caitlin on 10/22/2009 at 12:45pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Good point, Caitlin. And, I do hope, for all concerned, it's true. That's a genuine wish.
I'm probably a bit jaded after a nasty divorce.
Posted by medXcentral (Jim) on 2009-10-22 12:58:09 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
Congratulations! I have loved reading about you and the farmer and I am so pleased to hear this.
Posted by Ask a Manager on 10/22/2009 at 08:40am | permalink | Reply to this comment
It's not always bad to worry – it means you care!
I wish you the very, very best. I love reading your blog and think you are absolutely delightful. Of course, I deal with Asperger cases almost every day – but you're my favorite. I hope you can see how inspiring and encouraging your willingness to share your story and your struggles are. It makes a difference to a lot of people.
Posted by barchbo on 10/22/2009 at 08:45am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations! It sounds like a new adventure is beginning … with the prerequisite challenges, obstacles and learning opportunities. I'm sure I speak for all your readers when I say that we look forward to learning about your experiences, both good and bad, as you step into a new stage in your life. (And I'm sure you already know how to "watch your step" at the farm.)
Best of luck for a long and enjoyable marriage !
D.Wheeler
Posted by Dave Wheeler on 10/22/2009 at 08:47am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations Penelope!! I'm very happy for you. I'd never tell you not to get married because you are worried. Like you said, Marriage is a leap of faith. It's always a little scary jumping into the unknown. It's a lot of hard work but if your instincts are telling you it's right, you will be fine.
Posted by Jennifer K on 10/22/2009 at 08:51am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congrats!
I think you're right about the giving-your-kids-what-you-didn't-have part. They will thank you later. And, other people on farms are driven too. Check out The Pioneer Woman. So many comments.
Posted by Morgan on 10/22/2009 at 09:00am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations!
I think the paths we find ourselves taking have been shown to us by our guardian angels; the lessons we choose to learn are precious gifts we could not obtain anywhere else UNLESS we took that leap of faith.
Best wishes for you and your family!!
Posted by Barbara Ling, Virtual Coach on 10/22/2009 at 09:00am | permalink | Reply to this comment
The farmer is right. Kids–and people of all ages–need to feel love and need to feel secure. If you give them that, then they can achieve anything.
And what of these achievements? Really, who cares if your kid is a valedictorian? Who cares if they go out to make a bazillion dollars when they're older? I'm not saying that we shouldn't challenge our kids (and ourselves) to be the best people they can be and to live up to their potential, but maybe we ought to stop with the "you have to be #1 or you suck" kind of thinking. A lot of #2s, 3s, and 47s are doing fine in this world.
We as parents (and people in general) ought to be emphasizing compassion in addition to competitiveness. Our job is to raise productive, well-adjusted adults–not world class cellists and soccer stars. I think I'd rather raise a kid who always appreciates music or sports rather than one who gets burned out on them before s/he hits high school.
So, sorry for the rant. I really meant to say good luck. Take the leap. But in the meantime, cut yourself–and your kids–some slack.
Posted by JB on 10/22/2009 at 09:10am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I have to agree with this. Kindness is an underrated virtue.
Posted by Caitlin on 10/22/2009 at 12:47pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations!!!!!
Posted by Melissa Chang on 10/22/2009 at 09:11am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations, P! I grew up on a farm near a small town (population 800) in Iowa and even though we didn't have an orchestra or swim team, I don't feel that limited my choices at all.
I do, however, think that peer pressure and peer activity are big leading indicators of success later in life. In my high school it was almost looked-down-upon to be smart, so I dropped out of TAG and AP courses because I didn't want to stand out. When I was in junior high and high school, I failed to recognize how important WHERE you go to college really is in setting the path for your life. I had good grades, applied to state schools, and got in and did fine, but if I had to do it again I would try to graduate valedictorian and get into an Ivy League school just to take advantage of the relationships that are formed in that type of environment. I was nearly 30 years old before I understood that being surrounded by individuals who are driven and intellectually curious helps drive me. Now I seek those people out. I wish I had done it sooner in life.
BUT since you have the pedigree and the background (something my parents, fantastic people with no post-secondary education lacked) to identify these opportunities for your kids and make sure that they're making the right choices.
I guess that's just a long way of saying, your kids will be fine. Go ahead and take the leap. You could do a lot worse for your kids than raising them on a farm in the Midwest.
Again, congrats!
Posted by Heidi at BankerGirl on 10/22/2009 at 09:24am | permalink | Reply to this comment
oh, congratulations – I'm so happy for you that I'm almost tearing up (ok, that may be because I haven't had much sleep and it's pretty early here). Best of luck!
Posted by Jen on 10/22/2009 at 09:30am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations, Penelope!
Fifteen years ago, I married a small town guy and moved to that small town with a seven-year-old. It took a long time for me to be comfortable here — mainly because I'm a little bit of a snob. My son, on the other hand,took to small town life like a duck to water.
I'm lucky my husband and son are sweet, compassionate people. They have been very patient as I worked through my snobbery.
I've come to realize that marching band and football are as good as cello and soccer.
Also (and I always knew this on some level) kids own themselves from the minute they are born. You can put a cello in front of a kid, but if he wants to play tuba, he'll find a way to ditch the cello and play tuba.
I think you're approaching your transition with absolutely the correct attitude. I wish you and your family all the happiness in the world.
Posted by Ann on 10/22/2009 at 09:30am | permalink | Reply to this comment
CONGRATS!!! I am so happy for you that I am tearing up at my desk at work.
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Some unsolicited advice, offered because I think it could help your new marriage succeed: From your previous posts, it's clear that the two of you have very different styles of handling money. And although your income is higher, it seems as if it's historically been more volatile than his, and its future is more uncertain (yes, your company is funded and doing great right now, but startups are risky and anything could happen).
So, I think things will run smoother in your marriage financially if you two can find a way to keep your household's regular, basic monthly bills/necessities within HIS income. Then use YOUR income for investing, luxuries, spending money, buying stuff (furniture, clothes, etc.), etc. You can still have joint marital finances/accounts, but setting up 2 checking accounts (one for his income and household necessities, one for your income and discretionary spending) makes it very clear what money is for what.
I think doing this would help your marriage on several levels:
1) You can both worry less about how the future success or failure of your company will impact your family's financial survival.
2) He still gets to do the male provider thing, since "his" money would cover the roof over your heads, the utilities, the groceries, etc.
3) You will have less reason to fight about you spending money on something that he thinks is frivolous, because you'll pay for those things out of "your" money that you earned and that you pre-agreed was for "extra" stuff.
(Of course, since he would be paying for all the necessities, you should use some of "your" money to buy things for him and his farm, too.)
Whether you take my advice or not, I hope that you two invest some time up front thinking and talking about how you're going to merge/manage your finances. You're very different in this area and that could cause problems in your marriage later if you don't begin with a good financial plan that you both can live with.
Posted by Jackie1776 on 10/22/2009 at 09:39am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Many Congratulations!!
Posted by Raj on 10/22/2009 at 09:45am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations. I absolutely love this. I'm inspired to take a leap. I wish you all the happiness.
Posted by enisio on 10/22/2009 at 09:47am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Um, I think this is a leap of insanity not faith. Try living with the farmer on the farm for 6-8 months and then see how you feel.
Two different backgrounds, two different worlds. I predict intense culture shock in your future. Of course, all this can be overcome if you have similar goals and values but from what you have written, that doesn't strike me as exactly your case.
At the heart of it, the farmer seems sounds like a do-it-yourselfer and you, girlfriend, are not. How does the farmer feel about the house assistant and nanny? You also strike me as a little needy. The farmer sounds more solitary and self reliant.
So, I advice drinking the milk for a few months before buying the cow. Oh, and get a prenup!
Posted by Lucie on 10/22/2009 at 09:56am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Dang right. Visiting a farm and living on a farm are vastly different things. (You forgot to mention her cleaning service. PT will be the first farm wife I know with domestic staff.)
Posted by JR on 10/22/2009 at 01:28pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I've known farming families with domestic staff. It's actually not uncommon.
It's definitely a different life and farms, by their nature, tend to be far from urban centres, but they're not void of luxury. In fact, I grew up around farming families who felt a cleaning service was essential.
Farming is a business, like any other, and sometimes you need support staff.
Posted by Erin on 2009-10-22 15:11:50 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
Thanks for sharing this. Congratulations! You're right to take that leap. Too many people don't — and they live life not knowing that it could be better. You'll never have those regrets.
Posted by Alexis Grant on 10/22/2009 at 09:59am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Mazel tov.
Not that it's any of my business, but now I wonder what happens with your arrangement with the boys' father. Is he moving to the farm too? ;-) I've always admired your ability to maintain such a congenial relationship with your ex.
Posted by Carla Shore on 10/22/2009 at 10:05am | permalink | Reply to this comment
If this helps, I grew up in Wisconsin on a farm, near a town much smaller than Darlington. I now work with international companies helping them set up their sales and marketing plans to enter the US market, and have lived in 3 different countries.
It's not where you grow up or how big your graduating class is (class of 45 people) or how high the school is rated. It's what they decide they want to do, and what they are willing to do to get there…
Posted by Beth on 10/22/2009 at 10:07am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I agree. Similar story – small farm girl from a 300 person town in SD and have now lived all over the US, working for Fortune 100 companies even after attending a "state school". Instill in your kids a sense of adventure, wonder, and curiousity – they will seek out success on their own.
Posted by Jessica on 10/22/2009 at 01:16pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Mazel tov!
It sounds like you're approaching marriage and this life-change in a very pragmatic way. I think that's the way it should be. It is working for me!
Posted by Veronica Sawyer on 10/22/2009 at 10:08am | permalink | Reply to this comment
hey I couldn't help at comment on your post. you probably wont read this because its buried under the other comments. I recently moved to Virginia to be with someone. it wasn't quite a farm but it was a big difference from New York and Massachusetts where i grew up. I didn't have kids so it was easier to pick up and go to be with this person. Along the way there has been some doubt, sometimes some regret. but the benefits for me outweighed the negatives. as for "limiting" your children. Honestly we live in a day and age where, as long as you have internet connectivity, you aren't limited to anything. That doesn't help with playing the cello but maybe there are other instruments that he might enjoy that wouldn't require an orchestra. In the end you have to do whats best for you and your children. Honestly if things are working out now the way they are whos to say that it shouldn't stay that way. Marriage is not the be all end all of relationships. As long as your kids see you're happy they will be happy. Maybe marriage is something you want to consider once your kids grow up. I'm not trying to dissuade you from marrying the guy.. but rather to open up your options to more than just 1) marry him 2) break up with him. There are plenty of other options in between. good luck, and congrats either way (either on the marriage, or on having someone you care enough about to even consider marrying even if the times not right yet)
Posted by Addy on 10/22/2009 at 10:12am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congrats Penelope! I completely understand this worry of yours:
"But if I didn’t marry the farmer, I would be worried, forever, that I should have married him".
I had that as well so I married the salesman and we are 21 years married.
Posted by Heather on 10/22/2009 at 10:18am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think there are actually some major long-term benefits for kids growing up in the country that make up for the some of the opportunities that are harder to get to. Most of the people I know that grew up on farms or otherwise outside of big cities are a little more independent, a little better at problem solving and a little better at planning. When you know that you can't just run to the store, you have to be able to adapt and plan ahead more than your city-dwelling counterparts.
And, by the way, Mazel Tov!
Posted by Thursday Bram on 10/22/2009 at 10:19am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations! I grew up on a farm not very far from Darlington and did the "#1" thing at a small school. I don't feel it limited my choices at all. In fact, pulling the "I grew up on a farm" card in essays appeals strongly to the our inherited yeoman farmer myth and can net all kinds of acceptance letters and scholarships for your kids. And, after a decade of wandering, I'm planning on a farm and family of my own in the next few years. Dig your roots in deep, undulate with the seasons, work hard, get reliable high speed wi-fi, and enjoy!
Posted by M on 10/22/2009 at 10:21am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations; I wish you the best!
I understand your concerns. I grew up on the east coast and attended private schools and went to an ivy league university, and i wonder sometimes how my life would be different if i weren't always around 'overachievers'. There is something to be said for environments that foster lots of opportunities. But given how you grew up, and given that this is on your mind, i'm confident you will find ways to make sure your boys have everything they need.
Posted by J (the regular poster one) on 10/22/2009 at 10:26am | permalink | Reply to this comment
You are so lovely and your blog is one of my absolute favorite reads. Congratulations, you deserve this happiness.
Posted by nicole antoinette on 10/22/2009 at 10:30am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations, sincerely! I wish you both a long and happy life together full of serenity and love.
There's plenty of successful people who come from small towns. They may not be as flashy or as public about their success as are some others; and their definition of success may be unique to themselves. But I would suspect that as a % of population most successful US people come from urban areas because most US people come from urban areas.
Posted by Eva Lyford on 10/22/2009 at 10:42am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope! Congrats! This is so great. When I started reading this post, I had no idea what was to come. Best wishes to you both. Do you plan to get married at the farm? :)
Posted by Lindsey T. on 10/22/2009 at 10:46am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations!!!
Although I was raised on the East Coast, my parents are midwestern, and I spent many summers in Minnesota and Wisconsin, and think the midwest is a great place to raise kids.
I've been reading for a while, and even though we're total strangers, I am very happy for both you and the farmer. Best of luck.
Posted by Kelsey Halling on 10/22/2009 at 10:46am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Love that you are taking the leap! That is what life is all about, taking leaps and having faith in your instincts.
This could be the start of a whole new blog…life on the farm!
Congratulations!
Posted by Joanne Tombrakos on 10/22/2009 at 10:47am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations Penelope! Enjoy your new life on the Farm. The farmer is very wise to focus on love and security for your sons. Truly, this is what children need to thrive. Don't worry about your kids too much, everything is still open to them thanks to the Internet.
Posted by Yanik on 10/22/2009 at 11:17am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations P!
I feel very happy for you reading this and touched by your realization of what's important for your kids.
My kids were also raised in a small Wisconsin town, with graduating high school classes of less than 100. Today they are grown and very successful. Some still live in Wisconsin, others have moved out East. Like everyone above said, kids choose their own way no matter what direction we parents push them. Who's to say your sons will want to play cello or soccer in 1-2 years anyway, wherever they live? By then it may be guitar and football. Or 4-H.
If you and the farmer always provide a loving home for your boys, one where they feel accepted and secure, they can manage fitting into a new school and meeting new people. Growing up on a farm as a bonded family will give your boys values for life that far exceed orchestra and soccer. Strength, security, self-knowledge and love.
May God guide and bless you in this new chapter of your life. He can make it work.
Posted by sophie on 10/22/2009 at 11:49am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Mazel tov!
And, I sympathize on the worrying front. Worrying is just a zero sum problem. Being stuck with the "coulda woulda shoulda" worry sucks a great deal, and sometimes I wish I could trade it in for the "tried, and boy howdy, did that work out badly" kind instead. So I say go for it, and to hell with "if you're worried, don't do it!"
p.s. if the farmer doesn't already, get him to put in a couple rows of supersweet corn just for you guys to eat at home. Used to date a guy whose family did that on their farm, always had the white-and-yellow kind of supersweet corn. A little salt on it, ZOMG, best food on the entire *planet*. You're a midwesterner now, which means you should totally MARRY HIM FOR THE SWEET CORN.
Posted by sabrina on 10/22/2009 at 11:56am | permalink | Reply to this comment
The farmer will read through the comments tonight. And he will get to this one, and he will be so happy.
He does plant a few rows of sweet corn. And it was so fun to pick and eat and give away to friends.
-Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on 10/22/2009 at 12:50pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
On the food tip…being a local, I was thinking, "Congratulations! Now I really have to try this guy's meat!"
Posted by Erin on 2009-10-26 22:02:54 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
No matter the size of the high school, you can still provide opportunities to your children. And, they can still achieve great things. My high school graduating class had 30 people. I grew up in a farming community of 700 residents. I am currently working on a PhD and doing great! An added bonus, my best friend from school is still my best friend. The community is so small that they become your family too.
Posted by trese on 10/22/2009 at 12:04pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
No advice, but best wishes and congratulations to you both!
Posted by Tiffany on 10/22/2009 at 12:13pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I grew up in a town of 900 people, 2 hours from the closest "city" and 6 hours from the closest city anyone has every heard of. I have a PhD from Stanford University — anything is possible.
Posted by From a small town on 10/22/2009 at 12:14pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm wondering what this means for the kids' time w/ their dad. It sounds like he was a pretty integral part of the schedule / daily life — staying at the house and such. And I think I remember reading that the farm is a bit of a drive. What are your thoughts or plans around that change / relationship?
Posted by Gretel on 10/22/2009 at 12:29pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm sure that Penelope, her ex, and the farmer will find a way to making sure that the children's father remains an integral part of their lives. It's not like she's moving interstate or overseas.
She said it was a long commute to Madison but her ex-husband would not be 'commuting' if he drove out to see his kids. Nor would she, if she drove them to see her.
Posted by Caitlin on 10/22/2009 at 12:53pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
or rather, drove them to see HIM.
Posted by Caitlin on 2009-10-22 12:53:39 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
My parents lived 2 hours apart after they divorced, and they would each drive halfway and meet at a gas station in the middle to trade kids. My brother and I now both feel compelled to always stop at that gas station when we pass it and buy snacks and crap. :)
Posted by Jackie1776 on 10/23/2009 at 11:37am | permalink | Reply to this comment
What's the over-under for how long these people stay together?
Posted by Miley on 10/22/2009 at 12:30pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Probably a week, and then another blogpost on how to learn to listen to your "2nd voice" and change your mind.
Posted by Ranjit on 10/22/2009 at 12:57pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Nah, Ranjit: It lasted a full six weeks.
The soap opera is getting better by the minute. Good writing; check out the post from Dec 5 or 6. It has tears and everything
Posted by Melania Rosseau on 2009-12-06 12:08:45 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
Dear Penelope
First of all, I like you a lot. And then goes the flak:
You should come to visit São Paulo someday. It would give you a completely new perspective about Darlignton.
Every time you talk about Asperger`s, it sounds like you are a little too happy about this diagnose, since it so conveniently justifies a big part of your behaviour.
I don`t think that you "worry" too much. You are a counter-phobic person.
Congratulations for the marriage. Wish you two all the best.
Posted by Eduardo Di Lascio on 10/22/2009 at 12:33pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Do you mean that America is the land of opportunity wherever you are in it, compared with many countries in the world? Or something else about Sao Paulo? I'm curious!
Posted by Caitlin on 10/22/2009 at 03:01pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations Penelope!
Posted by JB on 10/22/2009 at 12:43pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations, Penelope. I wish you and your family every happiness!
Posted by Caitlin on 10/22/2009 at 12:51pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
after reading this, I read your first post where you introduced him. Knowing the outcome makes the first one much more moving.
Congratulations, best wishes and all that.
Posted by jb on 10/22/2009 at 12:57pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations!! I have been following your posts, and I'm so happy you found a great guy that will be not only perfect for you, but for your sons as well! Living on the farm will be great for them! Opportunities will still come along. My cousin went to Cornell (did not attend the Agriculture program) after growing up on a farm.
Posted by Kathy on 10/22/2009 at 01:02pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations!
I grew up on a farm and loved it. Having all that space, all the animals, and fresh air was refreshing and calming.
Posted by Erica McGillivray on 10/22/2009 at 01:05pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations!
I didn't go to New Trier, but my high school was also big, and excellent, and gave me a lot of opportunities, but…
One of my friends drove/was driven three hours every weekend to play league soccer, which was the only way for her to be on a team that would get her the Division I college soccer scholarship she eventually did get. She played for the high school too, and she was a star, but that was secondary. Madison is close enough for you to do a similar thing for your kids.
And as others have pointed out, there are some excellent opportunities for online classes, including AP classes that you wouldn't even have to pay for, if Wisconsin has an online academy, as many states do.
I think your kids will be just fine, mostly because you and the farmer recognize the importance of supporting them, and giving them a loving environment. Those are the two things that are most important. Your own background makes it clear that some kids can succeed, even if they come from horrible home circumstances, but the odds go way up for kids whose parents are unconditionally loving, and are supportive of their dreams.
Posted by Deb on 10/22/2009 at 01:15pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations, Penelope! I think anything worth pursuing requires some leap of faith. I'm so excited that you are going for this; and I'm confident that your kids will do great. I know you don't post a lot (or any?) photos on this blog, but when the wedding happens, I'd love to see a photo or two of the big day! Congratulations again. Wishing you both the very best.
Posted by haemin on 10/22/2009 at 01:20pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Mazl Tov! I think people who love you want you to be happy. First and foremost your kids. Be happy.
Posted by Alex G on 10/22/2009 at 01:23pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations! I agree with most here, just love the kids and they will turn out fine. It really doesn't matter where you are from, just where you are going. If your sons have half of your perseverance, they will do whatever they want in life and be happy. Enjoy your life together!
PS. I enjoy your open and honest writing.
Posted by Bob Bennett on 10/22/2009 at 01:24pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
mazel tov!
Posted by jill on 10/22/2009 at 01:27pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
de-lurking to wish you the very best. really, so so so happy for you!
Posted by Brianne on 10/22/2009 at 01:29pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I knew from day one that the farmer was the one for us… I mean you.
Posted by principalspage on 10/22/2009 at 01:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
First and foremost, congratulations! I must say, however, that your insinuation regarding the lack of opportunity in smaller towns reeks of the snobbery that residents of said smaller towns face on a constant basis. I did not attend a private school (some would say I graduated from one of the worst public school systems in the country); I did not attend an Ivy League college (some would say I graduated from a mediocre, at best, state school); I did attend a "top 25 regional" graduate school (and, realizing that it wasn't Ivy League, I must say the opportunities were not terribly different from those I encountered at the undergraduate state school but it cost me a hell of a lot more money) and I did not land a job at a big investment firm. I couldn't have done any of those things as I had my first child when I was 19; there was no money for a diploma from Harvard and there weren't enough hours in my day for a job at an investment bank. However, through all of my mediocrity, I have gained a sense of self worth and confidence that will take me wherever I choose to go.
With that said, I admit that I have not chosen to go anywhere. This is not because I don't have a desire to try new things or prove to the world that those of us born in mediocre areas can, in fact, beat the hell out of those who weren't; it is because I am the single mother of two children who have grown up here and who need the support of their extended family. I have sacrificed a big career (thus far – I fully intend to capitalize on my experience and knowledge when my kids are in college) and much bigger money, but the result is well worth the sacrifice. My kids are growing up in a loving, familiar environment and although they might not have access to the best coaches, trainers and musicians; they have me. I can do anything I want to do and, based on my experience, I can do it better than 90% of the population. My self confidence translates into their self confidence; I am absolutely convinced that my children can do whatever they want to do and I remind them of that everyday. Differences in environment do not translate to differences in desire, ability or intelligence; at the end of the day, aren't those a few of the most important characteristics of highly successful individuals regardless of their origin?
Posted by Kim on 10/22/2009 at 01:36pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
On an obscurely related topic, composer Vic Mizzy just died.
"Gree-een Acres is the place to be …"
Posted by Brad on 10/22/2009 at 01:40pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
P-Lope:
Mazel Tov; I will skip the intermarriage manifesto because you are a sophisticated woman.
So, you are betting the farm with the Farmer, or on the Farmer?
Betting the Farm….
One word before signatures: Background-Check.
Posted by Alan Wilensky on 10/22/2009 at 01:41pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think you have a very romanticized view of life on a farm. Do you and your sons ever actually work side-by-side with The Farmer? And will that be the expectation once you're living on the farm?
Posted by Maria on 10/22/2009 at 02:07pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
A loving marriage is an indescribable blessing. Best wishes to you, and congratulations to the farmer!
If it makes you feel better, I credit my high-achieving ways partly to having grown up on a farm, in middle-of-nowhere Georgia, until age 13. We were so far out, we couldn't even get cable! Although it was lonely sometimes (I was an only child), it encouraged me to read ALL THE TIME and to develop a broad imagination. It's also lovely to spend so much time close to the natural environment and to have the freedom to enjoy outdoor pets like dogs and horses that are harder to keep in the city or the 'burbs.
Posted by Rebecca on 10/22/2009 at 02:26pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Mazel tov!
Posted by Mike on 10/22/2009 at 02:34pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations Penelope!
Perhaps this will ease your mind regarding farm life for kids. I was born and lived in the city until about age 10 when my family moved up north to a farm. At the age of 20 I moved back to the big city and I honestly feel that I had a better upbringing then most of my city friends. It's true that they had some opportunities that I did not, like being on the top athletic teams in the country, having newer books and computers in their schools. But the things I learned and the the freedom and opportunities I gained being on a farm are life lessons that I took with me. I learned to drive before anyone else, I can build and fix just about anything and being in a small community gives you a real sense of belonging that you don't get in a city. The athletic teams at my school were still very competitive but every kid got a chance to be on a team, not just the best kids. We also learned to be very creative with ourselves, because there wasn't as much to do as in the city. I helped bring animals into the world, nursed them when they were sick and buried them when they died, and most of my city friends have never even had pets.
I am glad that I had the chance to experience life on a farm and feel that it made me a stronger and hardier person today.
Good luck!
Posted by Carly on 10/22/2009 at 03:05pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations! This is pretty amazing. I wish you and your family all the best. Just go for it! The farmer sounds really amazing and dreamy. I like that you balance each other out. Best of luck!
Posted by Marissa on 10/22/2009 at 03:11pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations!
Posted by Asheley on 10/22/2009 at 03:21pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow! Congratulations! I'm so excited for you!
Posted by Anonymous on 10/22/2009 at 03:26pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations.
I wouldn't worry too much about lack of opportunities for your boys. A lot of the opportunities in life are acquired through the experience one gains in taking the road less traveled.
I think the typical middle to upper middle class person who lives in a rural area tends to develop stronger life skills than a comparable city person. When your nearest neighbor is 5 miles away, you tend to develop a stronger sense self reliance and imagination. Also, one tends to appreciate their family a bit more.
All of the farmers I've met have been pretty well rounded. They have to know business, they have to know mechanical stuff, and they have to know the science of agriculture.
Best of Luck.
Posted by JH on 10/22/2009 at 03:32pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope
This is such great news and its so incredibly brave of you to take the leap. I've been with my partner (who is not nearly a farmer but rather a computer nerd) for 10 years and i'm not ready to take that leap – you're a better woman than I.
Small towns are a great way for kids to have perspective in their lives. Once they get out into the big wide world they truly appreciate the time they had where life was simpler, and often more enjoyable; where people said hello in the street and enjoyed playing outdoors – as opposed to sitting inside in an apartment playing video games against someone on the otherside of the world.
If you're going to live on the farm, will you get married on (or around) the farm somewhere?
Elle
Posted by Elle on 10/22/2009 at 04:14pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I, too, got married even though I was worried about it. Like you, I knew I would be worried about it no matter what. So far, it has been the best choice I have ever made. My husband deployed a month after we got married. It was still the best choice I have ever made.
I am envious of your soon-to-be farm life and look forward to (hopefully) more farm-related posts :).
Congratulations!
Posted by Jess on 10/22/2009 at 04:16pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
I've only recently discovered your blog and I've read almost all of it. Sometimes the topics scare me, but I read on. You are funny, smart, and will ultimately make the right choice for YOU.
I married my husband after six months. People thought we were crazy (or I was having a baby, which I wasn't). We are happy and just celebrated our 13th wedding anniversary (lucky 13).
So take the leap of faith and figure out what is good for you.
BTW, life on the farm sounds amazing for you, the farmer, and most importantly, your boys.
Good luck and congrats!
Jennifer
Posted by Jennifer on 10/22/2009 at 04:20pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Oh. Em. Gee.
Congrats, right?
Posted by Sydney Owen on 10/22/2009 at 05:05pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"because I’m pretty sure there will be no blog outranking me for that search term"
Sorry, but Johnny Depp has you beaten there.
Posted by Dillinger on 10/22/2009 at 05:06pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am impressed by this post. Being able to self-analyze to such a degree is a skill, and takes courage. Adding children to the mix I'm sure only increases the need for both the skill and the courage. The honesty and lack of sarcasm in this post made it heart-felt and I'm sure you and the farmer will be successful in your marriage.
Posted by megan on 10/22/2009 at 05:13pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
i heart the farmer. i think he's good for you. cause, ya know… i can tell over the internet.
congratulations. i wish you guys many years of happiness together.
Posted by priscilla on 10/22/2009 at 05:25pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
P: your kids will be OK living on a farm. They'll find what they need. I'm a long time tech guy and now live in a rural/farming border area (still consulting with tech co's and writing) and came to realize that I prefer the company of farmers to VC's. They're more interesting people.
It sounds like the farmer knows what he's getting himself into, as do you. All is well. Good luck to both of you. It's great fun reading what you write.
Posted by S. Cruz on 10/22/2009 at 05:27pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations, Penelope. So happy for you. My husband and i had our first date the end of August, got engaged on Oct 9 and married on Dec. 5–and that was 28 years ago. Sometimes, the leap is what it takes! Much happiness.
Posted by Tara on 10/22/2009 at 05:29pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Well, somehow I could sort of see this coming, really. I'm thrilled for you and the farmer.
More and more I see the need to "get out of my head" when I spend too much time online. If you do too, then the remote farm location will (overall) help and not hurt your business, I would think.
Congratulations and mazel tov!
Posted by Sheila Scarborough on 10/22/2009 at 05:33pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Mazal tov! I'm really happy for you (despite not actually knowing you).
Posted by DT on 10/22/2009 at 05:34pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
mazel tov!
just live in the moment.
-heidi
Posted by heidi on 10/22/2009 at 05:36pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Warm wishes. What a wonderful feeling, to take the leap of faith with someone you love. It's all very Jane Austen. The happy ending is a new beginning.
I would not have missed growing up in the sticks! It was wonderful and boring and beautiful and sad and inspiring. And I had lots of time to THINK about whatever inspired my fancy. Lots of brilliant writers come off those backwater farms. That's one reason why.
Posted by sifi on 10/22/2009 at 05:39pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
You go girl.
Posted by LPC on 10/22/2009 at 05:46pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations Penelope! And yes please do give yourself a chance! http://thedailyandthenotso.blogspot.com/2009/10/give-yourself-chance.html
Congratulations again!
E
Posted by Efraín on 10/22/2009 at 05:48pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations, Penelope to you, the Farmer and your kids!
You raised thoughtful questions in your blog and have received some great advice. I'll just add the following:
–Having been engaged for about 11 years before I agreed to get married on April Fool's Day (my choice) in 2003, I often wonder why I waited. (I always felt like I was Carrie in Sex & the City. I was fine being a fiance and okay with the idea of being a wife; I just didn't want to be a bride.) I'm so delighted you're moving forward, especially since you have children. (My now husband finally convinced me to marry him because he didn't want our puppy living in an unwed household.)
–Living in a small midwestern town and a farming community provides its own educational and cultural opportunities, as many of your readers have noted. And when it's time to apply to colleges, those of us from tiny towns and small schools can stand out more than those from New Trier and other well-respected and big schools.
– Being out in the sticks these days doesn't mean you're out of sight and out of mind. The internet and everything associated with it can keep you connected to the world. The connectivity we have today is so wonderful, compared to just a few years ago.
Enjoy! And please keep all of us a part of your new life! We want to hear how you're doing.
Posted by Liz Guthridge on 10/22/2009 at 06:07pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations Penelope :)
Posted by Kelly on 10/22/2009 at 06:13pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Oh Penelope!! I want to hug you. This is wonderful! I could tell right from the very beginning that your thing with the farmer was special. I'm so happy for you.
There's nothing wrong with being worried. We all worry. We also take chances and root for love. It's a beautiful thing and makes me so happy to read it. Thank you for sharing the great news!
Posted by spleeness on 10/22/2009 at 06:42pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
This made me smile to read this, for the forthrightness with which you're putting out your concerns and the love and faith that you have to move into and through great doubt. One of my teachers once told me that fear and hope always rise together. :) Congratulations!!!
Posted by Gayle on 10/22/2009 at 06:43pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations and hugs from another of your many, many fans…
Posted by Ken Burgin on 10/22/2009 at 06:51pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I wish the best to you, the farmer, and the kids. Farm life is not easy but it is rewarding in many ways. Take care of yourself when you do have to commute. Right now I'm thinking snow tires for your vehicle should be at the top of your list. Also I think you'll need to get some good Internet connectivity on the farm if you don't already have it. The list goes on and come to think of it I'll probably worry more than you. :)
Posted by Mark W. on 10/22/2009 at 06:58pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congrats Penelope!
I wouldn't worry that you're worrying. I think everyone worries about marriage – whether they are making the right choice or not. It's easy to start overanalyzing, to get cold feet, to feel panicky, etc. That's normal behavior and happens when it comes to making any big decisions in life. But you know yourself best and if this feels right in your heart, I say go for it!
I knew you two were a perfect match when I read this Tweet…
http://twitter.com/penelopetrunk/status/4590819777
Posted by David on 10/22/2009 at 07:48pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations, Penelope! My husband and I have been dealing with the very same questions in our career/parenting choices and wondering which is better for the kids: a life that is achievement & opportunity oriented, or one that focuses on love, family and intimacy and to hell with the rat race. It's a constant question of balance, and your concern–the very fact that you care so much–is what will make all the difference for your sons. For them, as for us all, it's about the process…the journey…the caring. Wishing you and The Farmer a very happy future together! (And I can just hear the Judge or Rabbi or Minister or whatever intoning, "Do you, Penelope, take This Farmer as your lawfully wedded husband…" :-)
Posted by Jennifer on 10/22/2009 at 07:54pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congrats! Hope you blog about the wedding in real time… better yet, do a live feed! Invite us all!
You can only love and support your kids, trust that you'll know -how- to achieve that as situations arise.
Posted by Susan on 10/22/2009 at 07:58pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
When I got married at 30, I absolutely knew I was doing the right thing. I loved the guy, he was 'a good fit.' So why was I having panic attacks? I got my ass back in therapy and worked it out. I was scared to death of becoming a grown up, an adult, one of them. Not to say that will happen to you, not at all. What I mean to say is, you can be doing the right thing, for you and the kids, and still be scared, nervous, ambivalent. For many of us getting married isn't blissful, it's a dare. A double dog dare, to tolerate the ambivalence, to take that leap of faith, to go boldly into the next great adventure. My adventure is 25 years old now and still going strong.
P.S. My nephews grew up on a farm in rural Eastern Kansas. One is a tenure track professor of architecture on the faculty of a state University and the other is a financial big wig in Washington DC. Your kids will be fine.
Posted by dr aletta on 10/22/2009 at 07:59pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hmm.
Best of everything?
Happy
The Best
Guess which group of owners have more fun.
Pen, the "best" is subjective. Go for happy. Happy id probably the best for you.
Posted by J- on 10/22/2009 at 09:36pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Many congrats to you both – no, to the two of you and your kids, too.
Posted by Heidi on 10/22/2009 at 09:49pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
i am so happy, i am doing a happy jig. right now. on my table. in my underwear. wait, what?
but really. this is such a sweet surprise. i couldn't be happier. and i can't wait to see what happens next. xo
Posted by KristinCanWrite on 10/22/2009 at 10:17pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
What an honest and beautifully written post! Best wishes to you and the farmer for a long and very happy life together. As for the kids, I'm with the farmer – love & security will give them the foundation they need to go out and find all manner of opportunity.
Posted by Debra Snider on 10/22/2009 at 10:23pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations! I'm jealous: Darlington sounds like a wonderful place.
Posted by Frank on 10/22/2009 at 11:03pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm a rural american farm girl turned big-city software architect and I will suggest you stop worrying about the kids. The "smart kids" at my country bumpkin high school all went away to college and have been able to find successful careers in medicine, engineering, law and business despite having a high-school education that didn't include every AP class available to our city peers. While the small school might not provide as many extracuricular options but it will probably offer more opportunity to develop leadership skills and rise to the top in the activities they do offer. You are giving them an opportunity to be a well-rounded leader.
Posted by Jen on 10/22/2009 at 11:10pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
She just has that NYC worry about her children not being in the right daycare to get them onto the right path into Harvard or Yale.
Posted by econobiker on 10/23/2009 at 02:43pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations!
Posted by Mailynne on 10/22/2009 at 11:49pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
You proposed to the farmer!!
I had to search, but found your previous blog about getting what you want:
Getgoodatfindingtruebarrierstowhatyouwant
"And then I realized that I had created a totally artificial barrier to getting what I wanted—the yoga. I realized that the best way for me to get what I want the next time is to write out the chain reaction: I can't do what I want because of X. And I can't do X because of Y. And I can't do Y because of Z. And then examine it—I am sure that somewhere in there is a weak link—somewhere in there is something that I can actually do, and then I am free to get what I want."
This translates to:
"I can't bring my kinds over because we are not married. And I can't marry you, because you live on a farm in the middle of nowhere. And because you live in the middle of nowhere, my kids may no have opportunity"
Penelope. Screw the barriers. Get what you want.
Posted by Del on 10/23/2009 at 12:10am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations!!! I wish you all the best!
Posted by Agnese on 10/23/2009 at 12:29am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations, Penelope. Here's wishing you, your kids and the farmer all the very best!
p/s: I admire your transparency and love your writing.
Posted by Sophia on 10/23/2009 at 12:59am | permalink | Reply to this comment
All the very best wishes!!! Love is often not convenient, and I applaud you for following your heart! Congratulations on your wonderful adventure ahead.
Posted by Garen Corbett on 10/23/2009 at 01:04am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Oh boy!
The Farmer evidently loves you more than you love yourself, as indicated by a number of your posts. That's good — I think. Someone needs to look out for you, because you won't.
On the other hand, you conceived a child with the Farmer and then publicly rejoiced on this blog when you miscarried the baby. That is creepy, and it does not bode well for your marriage with him. At some point it all boils down to marriage being about life, not death. For your own good, please stop blogging about death where the Farmer is concerned.
Posted by Jim C. on 10/23/2009 at 02:17am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hi,
Your children need the faithfulness and unconditional love of the farmer for you. Your children need a Father. The farmer loves you and your children, live in that. Take delight that this may wants to give his life to you and his children.
Congratulations on your upcoming marriage.
Tim
Posted by Timothy Wright on 10/23/2009 at 02:41am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Take the plunge and fail rather than wishy-washy around it trying to ensure success at something that can only be attempted, not guaranteed. If you didn't have kids, sure, "try on the Farm for 6-8 months." But since you'll be taking your children with you, demonstrate to them your whole-hearted effort, and make sure you have a support team of friends that will look you in the eye and tell you the bald truth about yourself when you're being a relationship diva. Not every is going to have a comfortably enmeshed, stereotypical marriage. I guarantee that you WILL want to give up at times; what's your plan for handling that inevitability? (Besides throwing in the towel?)
Also, the expectation/fantasy of high achievement for one's children is overrated. A lovely young family came into the store where I work a while back. On the way out, the chipper young mother was saying to her kid, "Good, better, best … that's our Aaron!" The kid was maybe 2 years old, and I felt the desperation underneath her brainwashing platitude. It made my skin crawl for that poor kid.
Posted by EllenSka on 10/23/2009 at 03:05am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Maztel tov, Penelope. Nothing but good wishes to you.
Posted by jazzypom on 10/23/2009 at 03:11am | permalink | Reply to this comment
If marrying the farmer is your ticket to personal and family happiness, then allow me wish you a hearty "mazal tov!" on this major life decision. And if a stable, loving, and supportive family life and couple life are in place, then the cello, soccer, and academics will sort themselves out. Good luck working out the details of this transition.
Posted by Dave E on 10/23/2009 at 03:49am | permalink | Reply to this comment
What a beautiful, doubt-defying leap! I am, from-the-heart happy for you, your sons and your fiance, Penelope. Just darling ;-)
Hey, two tangential thoughts just came to mind:
1. http://www.brazenfarmer.com
2. http://www.farmingcareerist.com
Oh, the possibilities in love-mergers…
Posted by Erika Harris on 10/23/2009 at 04:08am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Ha ha ha! Yes, the farmer totally needs his own Brazen Farmer blog.
Posted by Jackie1776 on 10/23/2009 at 11:47am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations to you and the farmer!!
Posted by Parul on 10/23/2009 at 04:35am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, all the "worrying" you describe–this is perhaps your code word for "planning". And as parents, how can we help but plan for our childrens' happiness, as much as possible.
However, only you can decide if the planning/worrying is a more important rule of life than living one day at a time. On the farm. In a more serene atmosphere. Surrounded by the farm work ethic and (most importantly) the sunny, loving, supportive qualities of the Farmer himself.
Farmer, if you are still reading the comments, note bene: You are marrying an Einstein, a brilliant, quirky, bold, dramatic person. Don't be afraid. She says you have soothing ways . . . so we know you can complement Penelope's qualities. Steady now. Give one another a lifetime to groom this relationship/marriage to its best.
Chris
Posted by chris Keller on 10/23/2009 at 05:01am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am happy for you, and wish nothing but good stuff for you and the farmer. Don't worry about the boys. The best you can give them is a happy house with two people in love. With that foundation, they will be able to take care of the rest.
Posted by Janet on 10/23/2009 at 05:19am | permalink | Reply to this comment
No matter where you are, you can open the world to your children. Plus, you're not that far from Madison. Son can still take cello lessons, people all over do this sort of thing. And the joy of growing up on a farm, in a closely knit community far outweigh your concerns. You're a really smart woman, your kids are going to have the best of both worlds! Best wishes to you, the farmer and your children. Enjoy!
Posted by sara on 10/23/2009 at 06:09am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations, Penelope! As a single custodial parent of a 12yo autistic boy, I understand some of the challenges you must face. I think this will be a wonderful life for all of you. There will still be opportunities there, you might just have to look a little harder. Best of luck to you, the Farmer and your children!
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Posted by Philip on 10/23/2009 at 06:11am | permalink | Reply to this comment
There was some point I arrived at while reading your blog – it must have been that post about "the babies" (abortion – not the last one – the one b/f that) or the one about your gut-wrenching childhood for which you have little memory, that I started to think the farmer and the farm were perfect for you. I am not nearly this hopeful about remarriage. I have been remarried, and when I remarried I had a child. He had never been married or had children, but we were still a blended family – dealing with my divorce; my ex; visitation issues; custody; trials; error. This is not easy, but, you know, it's easy to believe in a man who would return to the farm. And for as revealing as you get on this blog sometimes, Penelope, he must love you very much. And, it sounds like he might even love those boys, and your debut in Darlington is long-awaited. And, if you love him, and boy, it sounds like you do, then your half way to success. Besides, who is to say they'll want to play the cello. They may want to farm. Yes, at some point after months of reading your blog I was saying to myself, "No wonder she moved to Wisconsin. She belongs on farm."
Now, this is getting long. I'm happy for you. I'm leaving you with one of my favorite Springsteen tunes. Have you heard it? I bet the farmer has:
Driving in to Darlington County
Me and Wayne on the Fourth of July
Driving in to Darlington County
Looking for some work on the county line
We drove down from New York City
Where the girls are pretty but they just want to know your name
Driving in to Darlington City
Got a union connection with an uncle of Wayne's
We drove eight hundred miles without seeing a cop
We got rock and roll music blasting off the T-top singing
Posted by jen on 10/23/2009 at 06:30am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Re: Orchestra (lack of) in a small town.
Start an endowment fund and bring orchestra to the school system. It can be your gift to your new world. You certainly have the skills to get one up and running.
Best of luck. Rural America has secret blessings awaiting your discovery.
Posted by Bobbie Stacey on 10/23/2009 at 06:35am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm actually sort of jealous. I grew up in Dubuque, Iowa, which I would guess you'll be visiting from time to time, and would love to live in Madison. I currently teach at New Trier, which is a great place to work, but I miss having the chance to be out the city in just a few minutes. Last night was Lagniappe here at New Trier; what a hoot!
Posted by G on 10/23/2009 at 06:51am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am so excited for you! I remember when you met the farmer and I remember you driving away from the farm and him peeing! LOL.
Posted by Shannon Nelson on 10/23/2009 at 06:53am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow!!!
I've followed your blog for a long time and I don't know when I have ever been as surprised as I've been reading this post.
As a committed follower of Jesus (the word Christian carries a lot of baggage in our culture) there are a lot of differences about how we see life. However, I love reading about your life and your thoughts because of your unique perspective and dead-on view about communication and openness.
I say a hearty "Go for it" to your decision to marry the farmer and move you and your kids. It won't be easy, and you know that. The best decision I ever made was deciding to spend my earthly life with my wife. Sure some of my plans for myself don't quite look what I thought they would be, but the love and relationship I have is something I treasure now and will throughout eternity.
The best thing you can do for your kids is to marry the farmer and love him and to keep on loving him. There is something built into kids where they want to be part of a loving family. As a child, the greatest fear I would experience was the fear when my mom and dad would be fighting. My very soul wanted them to get along and love each other. Kids need to see that and I think your kids will.
Congratulations! And kudos to you for taking this "leap of faith" in your relationship!
Grace and Peace.
Posted by Paul T on 10/23/2009 at 07:05am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Yes yes yes!! Congrats. The kids will be fine–how many times have you spoken of people's ability to be nice and get along well with others as a key to their success? The healthy grounding is worth far more than the top-tier private soccer coach.
Posted by Viviana Sutton on 10/23/2009 at 07:11am | permalink | Reply to this comment
A farm is a *wonderful* place for an Asperger kid to grow up!
The healthiest, whole-est Aspies I know all grew up on farms. They didn't learn to dislike themselves. They failed to learn that they didn't fit in. They just did what they do, independent of others' opinions, and grew into funky, brilliant, and peaceful adults.
All those "advantages" you give up by not living in a big city are artificial. Going to the "best school" is important if you want to be funnelled into the top executive position at a top firm. But if you want to do your own thing and start your own business (which is a far better plan for an Aspie anyway), you need openness, ideas, confidence, and joy in life.
What's better for a kid – to play cello in a school orchestra, or to play it on a hill in the wind?
Blessings on your new life path!
Posted by Nancy on 10/23/2009 at 07:15am | permalink | Reply to this comment
As so many others have wished, congratulations! happy is what you make of it, marriage is hard work (as you know) and if you don't take a leap, you will never know how it feels to fly through the air.
All the best for you!
Posted by Ruth on 10/23/2009 at 07:25am | permalink | Reply to this comment
The Aspie thing: I'm sure you've thought of Temple Grandin and how she made her way in academia with her human animal chutes beginnings . . . Talk about thriving!!!
Chris
Posted by chris Keller on 10/23/2009 at 07:36am | permalink | Reply to this comment
OOOps. I meant to say "HUMANE animal chutes" in my Temple Grandin post above.
Chris
Posted by chris Keller on 10/23/2009 at 07:37am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations! One of the things that I have truly enjoyed about your blog is its complete open and honest tone. Thank you for sharing your life, and best wishes for a happy farm life!
Peace – Patrice
Posted by Patrice Beverly on 10/23/2009 at 07:56am | permalink | Reply to this comment
The farmer is right. Kids need love and security. Life is to be lived–all the competition stuff of cello and soccer is just upper middle class confusion. If your kid wants to really play cello like a madman, you'll find a way to make that happen–he'll go to the big city or you'll hire a tutor. And who really plays soccer after college–after high school, even? These things are supposed to make life joyful and worth living in the pleasure of doing them–not by "being the best" or "being number one". Maybe living on this farm will be an opportunity to save them from this achievement confusion. The upper middle class values socially sanctioned achievement (and property) above all else. Those things don't really matter–happiness does.
Posted by Sarah Bush on 10/23/2009 at 08:24am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations, of course. I do understand your concerns about your children's opportunities.
I grew up in a place just like Darlington. I was the top 4-Her in the county and amassed a pretty significant resume every year for my fair projects, youth leadership events and my officer positions. I was the only non-farm kid at the fair every year.
I won all my local scholarships on my way off to college. Our band (not orchestra, but there are bands) competed state wide and I was so successful on my instrument I studied it in college.
I won scholarship and opportunity to mulitple schools. I got to my first private college on a near-full ride and lost it by my second sememester. I learned my lesson, transfered to state school and have since managed to undergraduate degrees, a master's and my Ph.D.
Like you, I've combined those skills into many jobs, including academia and professorships, consulting and public speaking. I've had three separate careers thus far (I now work in PR not too far from you in Darlington) and am still a "joiner" –I'm a big advocate of working women's organizations and am a part of the AAUW.
The point is, I think my small town, my "lack" of opportunities taught me to soak up anything and everything I can get my hands on. When I did go off to college, I did it full force (even the partying, at first).
I think the perceived limits of a small place with fewer choices trains to you make better choices, to appreciate them and to seek them out. I constantly found ways to be challenged, to exceed and be creative. I could have gone to a fancy high school, I could have been living in New York where the possbilities seem endless-but don't forget, endless possibilities can be paralyzing. My small town was motivating.
Good luck to you and your children.
Posted by Julie on 10/23/2009 at 08:40am | permalink | Reply to this comment
If you are committed to making it work, it'll work. It won't be easy but nothing ever is. If you have doubts, don't do it. At some point, you have to "settle" down and accept your life for what it is, not what you think it should be. Keep it simple and marrying the farmer could be the best thing that ever happened to you!
Posted by Mary on 10/23/2009 at 08:42am | permalink | Reply to this comment
CONGRATS, Penelope! I cannot believe you've moved w/in about 20 miles of where I grew up in Mt. Horeb, WI. Next thing you know you're going to be writing about your dream job as a cheese maker…;)
BEST!
Brian Kurth
VocationVacations
Brian Kurth + Co.
Posted by Brian Kurth on 10/23/2009 at 08:50am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Best of Luck. Life requires a leap of faith and if you are not worried, something is seriously wrong. Take the leap of faith, love your kids, protect yourself as best you can, and most of all love what you are doing and who you are doing it with.
Kick butt, take names, don't forget a pencil
Best of luck
Tom
Posted by Tom on 10/23/2009 at 09:21am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations! The farmer is very lucky!
Posted by Paul McConaughy (@MiNutrition) on 10/23/2009 at 09:26am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations and the very best of luck. No marriage is perfect, no relationship is perfect and above all – no human being is perfect. Recognizing this makes life much easier. Just give everything your best shot, that's all anyone can ask.
Posted by LH on 10/23/2009 at 09:50am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Nice! Congratulations!
Posted by Kavitha on 10/23/2009 at 09:54am | permalink | Reply to this comment
lol, i'm sure you do have assburger syndrome. just like every other person on the internet.
Posted by hugh on 10/23/2009 at 09:58am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I went to what's now ranked as the #1 public high school (Thomas Jefferson, in northern Virginia). They told us how smart we were and how we'd accomplish so much. That's a dangerous environment — so much praise leads to swollen heads, an attitude of entitlement, and anxiety over "gee, I'm not going to an Ivy League school, am I going to survive in the world?" I've done OK since then — at 27, I'm NOT the CEO of a multi-million dollar company, but so what? With your and the farmer's influence, I think your kids will do fine, regardless of location. Good luck, and congratulations!
Posted by Karl in NC on 10/23/2009 at 10:22am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I look at all the love strangers have left here for you and hope that your new home will be overflowing with it.
I am getting married in a couple of months. I am scared every single day but he is a good man and unfailingly supportive of everything I do. His parents are wonderful. We want the same things and we accept the infuriating differences between us with as much humor as we can. I love him more every week (even when I want to stab him in the head!).
I am putting my trust in him and my faith in myself and remembering that if you don't take a chance you will just stand still while life passes you by.
Good luck. We all need it.
Posted by Geraldine on 10/23/2009 at 10:26am | permalink | Reply to this comment
My semianniversary (6 months) of wedded bliss is on Sunday. My husband is an incredible partner, and he makes my life so much sweeter, richer and better thought-out. I found being engaged terrifically terrifying. I would come over for the weekend and cry. I loved him, I wanted to be with him, I wasn't sure I wanted to be married. He would ask me what being married meant, and slowly we were able to deconstruct it. We decided what being married would mean for us, and it's meant such wonderful things. And we were married six months ago. I'm truly happy, and very privileged, and very lucky.
I love this blog, I love how forthcoming you are, I love learning about your life and reading your advice.
Enjoy this next adventure!
Posted by Brady on 10/23/2009 at 10:30am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Dear Penelope, thank you for your kind words, and that while you're on this emotional rollercoaster yourself! Congratulations to you and your interesting farmer.
People tend to forget living on a farm has changed since they were young, and yes, internet acces changes everything (I remember reading your Blackberry may have reception out in the fields, maybe you can get your own living-room-café-style-shed to work in!).
Also, it makes a big difference whether someone grew up then with relatively undereducated parents or for your sons to grow up with you and your educated, life-experienced partner and their father available.
To me, moving (back) to The Netherlands for the second time and just outside the city felt like moving to a farm (old style). But with the kids in an international school near the city where there are more people with similar moving experiences, it is not as bad as it seemed :) . Just the time difference and distance to some friends whom I'd like to hug and meet with once in a while (or rather more frequently than that) are making it harder.
Moving from NYC to Madison was the big step in moving, moving in with the farmer a big step in your emotional life. It seems to me that because of your Asperger's you come more prepared than anyone.
You will figure your new life out, and will blog about it, no doubt. I'm looking forward to your posts from the farm.
All best,
Posted by Mascha on 10/23/2009 at 10:46am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations on a real adventure! I am a city girl who moved to the country, and I can assure you, you have a lot of surprises coming, and very few of them are unpleasant. If your cellist son ends up playing only for his enjoyment, isn't that enough? This adventure may send him in an entirely different, and maybe more appropriate, direction — you won't know until he's 35 anyway, so let the chips fall where they may, and embrace the change! Many best wishes to you ALL for a well-lived life together. cvc
Posted by Chris C. on 10/23/2009 at 11:28am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations Penelope! It sounds like you've thoroughly analyzed the potential outcomes of your decision, but in the end, as most things in life, you can never really know how things will turn out, so all you can do is really to take a leap. Best wishes to you and the farmer!!
Posted by Kathrine on 10/23/2009 at 11:39am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I feel sorry for your ex. Is the guy even meeting anyone while you had tons of opportunities.
Posted by dave on 10/23/2009 at 12:46pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Dear Penelope,
The bad news: if you're accustomed to city life (and especially if you've never lived anywhere else), you will be miserable in a small town in Wisconsin. There's no way around it. You keep mentioning "serenity" and "farm" in the same sentence. Oh that is romantic, but no; sorry. Some of the country's most heard-rending stories are played out in the lives of the inhabitants of small-town midwesterners (though they will insist this is the UPPER midwest). I'm afraid, too, that as a mother you will be alarmed by the lack of social services and by the generally conservative and intolerant attitude of the locals. Also, please note that visiting the farm is nothing like living on the farm.
You will fall in love again.
I wish you good luck.
Posted by Bronwen Rowlands on 10/23/2009 at 12:50pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Bronwen Rowlands,
Don't worry about her- all of what you mention will end up as her blogger-tisement fodder in the future.
Just sit back and watch the trainwreck as it progresses.
Posted by econobiker on 10/23/2009 at 02:33pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I appreciate your honesty and insight. Congratulations and I look forward to reading about your new adventures.
Posted by Emily Haughey on 10/23/2009 at 01:20pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
If you're making a good decision for you – and it appears that your are – then you're making a good decision for your sons. Congratulations and much happieness.
Posted by Scott Woodard on 10/23/2009 at 01:59pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations Penelope and Farmer.
Came here from Althouse and was intrigued by your discovery of the farm.
May your life together be blessed.
Posted by JAL on 10/23/2009 at 02:03pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I see the story of you and the farmer as a romantic comedy. It's a natural. But who should play you and who should play the farmer?
Posted by Gary Maxwell on 10/23/2009 at 02:17pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Darlington has no idea what's about to hit them. Get somea' Darlinton cheap!
"The City of Darlington has lots for sale in its industrial park. The lots are in a prime location at the intersection of State Highways 81 and 23. The City will sell land in the business park to a developer for $1.00 if the developer is able to meet some basic requirements in addition to meeting all other City development ordinances. To learn more, please contact City Hall at 608-776-4970, but don't wait because the lots are selling fast!"
http://www.darlingtonwi.org/IndustrialPark.html
Posted by Maureen Sharib on 10/23/2009 at 03:48pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Oh! And congratulations! :)
Posted by Maureen Sharib on 10/23/2009 at 03:49pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Ah, such a good weighing-and-balancing of issues that torment mothers of young children. You're headed on the right path: even though it's terrifying to be "depriving" the kids of all the shiny possibilities that big city life offers, you know in your heart that the Little House ethic is what will grow your boys into great people. It's just a lot harder now than when we were kids, because of course, our children can see at a click what they're missing…
However. You're right about the farm being a thrilling place to grow up. All the best for the road ahead!
Posted by Alex Van Tol on 10/23/2009 at 04:47pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
It can be safe to change. Commit to growing, that is what I did. My farmer is a musician however the gifts they offer sound very similar.
My son has been enriched beyond my understanding. My sincere best wishes. Your instincts are great!
Posted by Nancy Carroll on 10/23/2009 at 05:12pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Many congratulations! I love to read your depictions of the farm and farmers, and I was happy to see that you guys are taking this step. Best wishes.
Posted by Melissa on 10/23/2009 at 09:10pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I don't get it. Why do you need to get married? Why do you need to show your kids you're buying into this artificial social construct? Be with who you want but do you really need the law or religion to give you the stamp of approval? I am surprised you feel you need to make this decision. That said, I wish you the best.
Posted by Lisa Nielsen on 10/23/2009 at 10:04pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations! may you live happily ever after
Posted by Tkeady on 10/23/2009 at 11:05pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
The stereotype in Silicon Valley was that kids off the farm did well since they were so conscientious and hard-working. I'm one generation removed from that but the effect hasn't completely worn off. Good luck.
By the way, google blogsearch doesn't rank this post as #1. Please try harder as you settle in to the next phase of life :-)
http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&q=darlington+wisconsin&spell=1&oi=spell&sa=X
Posted by Robert Gable on 10/24/2009 at 12:06am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations.
Posted by Amar on 10/24/2009 at 04:59am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations, Penelope. I was a single mom and had an opportunity to marry a farmer type person.
My son didn't like his lifestyle. I deferred, and missed out on a wonderful man.
So, I'm happy you are taking the leap. You know "of all sad words of tongue and pen…the saddest are these….what might have been".
Good Luck!
Posted by Lois Geller on 10/24/2009 at 07:22am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Point your blazing intellect at the study of what life is like in a farming community. If you are open to learning and changing, this could be a great thing for you as well as your children. If your attitude towards Darlington doesn't change, epic social fail and you'll be gone before five years are up.
Your children will learn great things from being in a small town and a small school. I believe it's a better and more natural and humane socialization.
I used to be a city girl but when opportunity knocked it was in smaller cities and towns…and I answered the door. I actually prefer small town life. Darlington is a lovely town, the people are really golden, and the town in Iowa where my sister farms and I plan to retire to is much like Darlington. I have never lived in my sister's town but my visits over thirty years have built up relationships and the people accept me as if I'm from there, and I actually call it home.
When we go Nooking, Darlington is one of the stops. Maybe I'll see you at the Nook sometime. (Bargain Nook, Lands End outlet.)
Intellect feeding step one: " Letters from the Country
" by Carol Bly. I read it years ago and don't distinctly remember it, chemobrain y'know, but it made an impression on me. I think you'll like it.
Posted by kentuckyliz on 10/24/2009 at 08:04am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Was the baby you wanted to abort, but miscarried instead, fathered by this farmer guy, or another guy?
If it was the farmer guy, did he know you were pregnant and wanted to abort his child?
And if he knows that, he still wants to marry you anyway?
Wow.
Posted by kentuckyliz on 10/24/2009 at 08:14am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I've been thinking about your advice to do something by leaping. It reminded me of advice my husband, the gun enthusiast, sent me a while ago, along with some other quotes sent to him from one of his many gunslinger friends.
"Do something. It may be wrong, but do something."
I posted it over on LinkedIn and some interesting answers came in and many of them did NOT agree with the premise of acting when you know not what to do – you may have an interest in them. You can read the string here:
http://tinyurl.com/ykzekwf
But for real, Penelope, good luck!
Posted by Maureen Sharib on 10/24/2009 at 08:56am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Best wishes!
I grew up on a 400-acre dairy farm in a very rural area. My high school's graduating class had less than 90 kids. Despite that, our drama teacher still took us to a Broadway show every spring, so I visited NYC more times before I went to college than many other kids. My parents believe travel and education and the arts are really important, so I didn't suffer from a complete lack of sophistication. Life is about choices, no matter what your perceived opportunities are. I think your kids will do just fine.
Another interesting note, career-wise: Growing up on a farm is always part of the answer to the ubiquitous "tell me about yourself" question in job interviews. Most employers who know anything about life on a farm are more than thrilled to hear this … To them, it means that I won't shy away from hard work. Putting in overtime to finish a project is no hardship after you've shoveled cow poop. :-)
Posted by Jessica on 10/24/2009 at 11:49am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I sent congratulations on Twitter but I wanted to say it again here so The Farmer will see. I wish you both (and the kids) the greatest happiness.
Posted by rainie on 10/24/2009 at 12:42pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations, Penelope — I hope you will both be very happy. The farmer sounds like the meringue to your lemon tart :)
My husband, who is smart and has a PhD from a good school, grew up in a tiny village with parents who hadn't gone to college and grandparents who farmed. It didn't hold him back. Your kids have smart, loving parents who will not tell them they can't achieve their goals; many kids do more with less.
Yeah, I know you'll worry anyway. I think that might be something good parents just do.
Posted by Chris on 10/24/2009 at 01:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
First of all, congratulations, best of luck and I wish you and your family much happiness!
Second, however…
I'm from a small town and, while I can agree with you that more rural areas are lacking many of the opportunities an urban area has to offer, I can assure you that growing up in a small town does not guarantee failure… which is exactly the feeling I'm getting from your writing here, that you are worried your children won't succeed in life if they grow up in a small town. (Also, sorry for the longest sentence EVER.) There are a lot of things small towns can do for children that the city could never offer. I have complete confidence your children will grow to be happy, successful adults and they will attribute it to you and their upbringing, including where they grew up.
Posted by Kaci on 10/24/2009 at 04:32pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good." – Voltaire
(O.K. – now you really have to talk to my sister – crazy how you both have similar lives.)
Anyway – she's marrying her farmer, but they are keeping the "City House." Her kids are a bit older than yours, and one of the driving reasons is to let the girls finish HS – and their Dad lives in town, so moving 25 miles away may not make sense.
For you, you may think "Urban Cabin" – a place to sleep over in the city. Madison is a blast, especially when your urban cabin is a home away from home.
And, now for the hard part. I went to ETHS in Evanston. New Trier, if I remember my High School football cheers correctly, are complete losers. ETHS has spirit, yes we do, and something-something-New Trier Sucks-something-something!
Posted by Mike on 10/24/2009 at 05:41pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow, did you actually write that you had raging intellect?
Just wow.
I disagree.
Raging self-absorption, yes.
Raging overconfidence issues, yes.
I vote for marry the farmer, in hopes that at least your kids will have access to another person when you fall off the deep end.
-neve
Posted by neve on 10/25/2009 at 12:21am | permalink | Reply to this comment
1)Some of the most grounded, yet accomplished people I know grew up on farms
2)The farmer is right, the most reward you can get as a human being is to grow up in a loving, nurturing environment
3)Why do your kids have to be #1 at something? That's your hangup, not theirs. If you believe the measure of a person's worth is how much they achieve or how much money they make, you are seriously missing a big part of the equation.
Posted by Warren on 10/25/2009 at 12:29am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Dear Farmer & Penelope,
Congratulations, so happy for both of you! There will never be a dull moment in your lives. Farmer, you are a brave man for taking on such a complex, strong, vulnerable, capable woman like P. We recognize that you too are taking a big leap and we love that you Love P.
Now Penelope – 3 words for you:
The Pioneer Woman
http://www.thepioneerwoman.com
She has an empire! She has 4 well adjusted, intelligent Home Schooled kids that are even well travelled! She has horses! Her husband is handsome (actually HOT) and loves her! She calls him MM for Marlboro Man. She has a book and is currently doing a book tour! She's been on TV! She rocks and so do YOU! Worry if you must, but we are all cheering for you to be happy, in love and a huge success on the farm with the Farmer and your kids! I am so happy for you! And as you can tell, there are probably too many exclamation marks in this comment!
Posted by Betty in Munich on 10/25/2009 at 03:22am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think it's a good thing. I also agree with the post above about preparing for very different financial backgrounds.
Congratulations!
Posted by ioana on 10/25/2009 at 08:45am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations, Penelope. Much love and happiness to you, the farmer and your boys.
And as someone who has the commitment issues in my relationship, if people like you and my fiance didn't have faith and patience, shit would never get done. I'm glad my fiance loves and knows me well enough to know that when I say I want to leave, it's because I'm just so scared and don't know what to do to stay. I would never want to be without him.
And the farmer is right about just giving your kids love and security. It's all we could ever hope to receive from our parents.
Congratulations!
Posted by Joselle on 10/25/2009 at 09:39am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Mazel Tov! And I hope you have more kids!
Three magazines to subscribe to on the farm: Astronomy, Stockman Grass Farmer (by Allan Nation) and Birding World or Birds & Blooms.
Read anything by Joel Salatin, especially Family Friendly Farming. Take the whole family to his summer seminar at PolyFace in Virginia.
Let your kids raise sheep. I recommend the Dorper breed: no shearing, tasty meat, great gain on grass alone, hardy, great leather, year-round breeding, minimal care. Katahdins are good too.
I played cello but my best musical experiences came from distant, short term, intensive orchestra experiences. I'm sure when he's older a monthly or biweekly trip to an orchestra in Madison would be just the right compromise. The real growth comes in the personal time spent practicing.
And enjoy the stars! Buy a really good telescope and use it often. Or at least just lay on the hillside together in sleeping bags and watch the meteors once in a while!
Both of you seem painfully honest and deeply loving — so you've got structural integrity right off the bat. And the kids are the mortar in between. I'm sure it'll work great!
Posted by Owen Richard Kindig on 10/25/2009 at 11:02am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Have you ever thought how much you demean and objectify him by calling him "the farmer"? What if he called you "the nutcase" or "the blogger" or "the compulsive liar"? How would you like that?
Posted by John on 10/25/2009 at 05:19pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
John — he wants to be anonymous on her blog. It's standard practice for bloggers to give their friends and family members nicknames like that when they don't want to be identified on the internet. Given that his first email to her was to pitch the idea that she needed a farmer friend, I don't think he minds the moniker.
Posted by Jackie1776 on 10/26/2009 at 10:46am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I wish you good luck or that mazel tov thing. But it is most likely a mistake.
Posted by Phil Dayton on 10/25/2009 at 05:27pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
As someone who has married a farmer (and all that that entails) I can see where your concerns come from. I grew up travelling all over the world with my parents, living in different countries and being exposed to different cultures and when I met my husband – who was "it" from day one – I was adamant we would not live on his family farm. Well – it eventually happened, and I chose it, for my 1 year old and I – because it was better than the post enron, post 9/11, dual income no life lifestyle we were living (husband worked for Enron but left 3 weeks before to go to agricultural college. No we had no idea and yes we too lost all of our investments). It was a shock but it has been good. People have been kind, overall, and accomodating of my eccentricities. My husband works an extremely fulfilling job – besides farming he is involved in all sorts of enterprises and local politics – and his happiness and lack of "sarariman-ness" means I am free to do what I want to do as well. The compromise is education – my bright and creative 9 year old has been at boarding school for 1 term (a decision while culturally accepted in these parts I have found very difficult to live with) and I have just decided to take her out and instead drive her for an hour to a nearer school which will offer her some outlet that local schools do not offer. Eventually her 6 year old brother will join her on this long commute. It is not ideal – but the more time I spend arounds striving mothers the more ridiculous their competitiveness seems to me. All around me I know of 40 something city / legal people disenchanted with their life and choices. Yet all around me women are priming their children to achieve the same. I'm intelligent and did reasonably well at school but because of my peripatetic lifestyle was never going to "fit in" anywhere enough to work out the system well enough to achieve top marks. That's fine – I led a more interesting life. I spent plenty of time alongside people primed from birth to be prodigies to know that you can't force it. Your kids will be fine. YOur child with Aspbergers will probably thrive with the peace and tranquility this homelife affords him. Your child without will do great – wherever. YOU play a big part in his life. YOU can open his mind to literature and music. And you're already doing that. Bugger the rest of them and choose happiness for yourself -it's the best example you can set for your kids.
Posted by Petra on 10/25/2009 at 05:38pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Your children can do anything they desire even if they grow up in a small town.
Marrying the farmer sounds like a good move to me.
Posted by Courtney on 10/25/2009 at 07:02pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
yay :)
and for the record, *i* don't think that being worried is a bad sign. your worry just shows that you are pragmatic and thinking things through. over-romanticizing marriage to the point where one doesn't worry at all about the nuts and bolts of one's new life? now *that* worries me.
Posted by maggie on 10/26/2009 at 06:29am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congrats on this Penelope! I'm happy for you…and I know people who have grown up in small towns, but turned out extremely smart & good people. You have more of a chance to stand out in a small town!
Posted by Akhila on 10/26/2009 at 10:40am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Mazel-tov!!! And you are absolutely right that you will never be absolutely sure about marriage. But your attitude is perfect – you're thinking about this in terms of building a family which is MUCH more than most people do. I've had moments of worrying about whether I'm giving my kids all the opportunities they need but ultimately I realized that all the money and power in the world won't make you happy if you don't feel loved and have security. I know that sounds cheesy but I've found it to be completely true in my life. You're giving your sons love and security. Sounds like the farmer is doing the same thing. There is NOTHING your sons need more than that. :)
Posted by JennR on 10/26/2009 at 10:46am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think being happy is better than being the best or being able to compete at a collegiate level. Seeing you happy will be worth more than all of the private soccer coaching in the world. Seing you be able to change to seek happiness…plus, I think growing up on a working farm will get the attention of the admissions offices! They are more and more looking for a total package than a "number one". You are doing the right thing – good luck!
Posted by Terri on 10/26/2009 at 12:50pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
what about co-parenting.
Posted by BW on 10/26/2009 at 01:43pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Are you the really a self-proclaimed "raging intellect" or do you think it is better defined as your "raging hormones" and just plain "wacky?"
When you make statements like, "The farmer broke up with me five times the first five months we were together, last year. So I learned that he had huge commitment issues." I smell "wacky" from both you and your Farmer!
You continue to make statements like, "I have Asperger Syndrome, which could be summarized as raging intellect.."
I wonder, if we read and listen carefully to your supposedly light-hearted references to your "raging intellect" it may be more like your "raging hormones" and plain old fashioned "wacky" and "a little brain-dead?"
Your blog in my judgement may suggest, you maybe an adult who is "out of control," but not disabled.
Have you ever considered the safety of your children? The source of both the swine flu and bird virus(s)were discovered on a farm. I smell "wacky" again.
For God's sake, leave the poor non-commitmenting farmer alone!
Eve
Posted by Eve on 10/26/2009 at 02:16pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Best of luck to the two of you! (The four of you, really.) I'd been wondering what was happening with the Farmer, and this is definitely news.
I'm sure there will be lots of changes, challenges, and adjustments for everyone. That's true no matter who you marry. And I hope all of you are very happy.
Posted by KateNonymous on 10/26/2009 at 02:46pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow ..congratulations on the marriage! I've only been introduced to you/your blog since I moved here to the Madison area this May. What a ride I've witnessed since then! … and I have to say I'm also impressed – way to own that rick/CNN interview! ;) Congratulations!
Posted by Jennifer on 10/26/2009 at 04:30pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Listen to the farmer. He's right about what kids need. And he's obviously good for you. Kids need parents who are happy. They may not notice what they don't have, but they will notice if you're happy or not.
Congratulations on finding your path. Wonderful!
Posted by Michelle on 10/26/2009 at 04:45pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
D'oh! Congrats, but now i'll never have the chance to see how my oral skills rank
Posted by ruben on 10/26/2009 at 04:53pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Woo-Hoo! Congratulations. And, by the way, if you're getting married and you don't feel worried…well, that would be just weird. Worry is real life. Complete and udder calm is a romance movie.
Posted by Eve on 10/26/2009 at 08:22pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Girl, just leap with your heart and go for it. Finding someone to spend your life with is a gift. I took a slow leap into a military marriage 11 years ago, and I couldn't be happier. It took me from Iowa to the east coast, and I didn't know what to expect for any of it. Go into it with your eyes and brain wide open, and your heart will lead you.
Good luck!
Amy
Posted by Amy Kelly on 10/26/2009 at 08:26pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"And, I have Asperger Syndrome, which could be summarized as raging intellect and acute sensitivity to outside input"
Acute insensitivity. Deluded, wrong, mis-formed. Whatever you want to call it.
Posted by Belinda Gomez on 10/26/2009 at 11:21pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, I'm so happy for you, the kids and the Farmer. You all deserve this joy!
Posted by Marsha Keeffer on 10/27/2009 at 02:50am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Pen,
This is none of my business. Then again, you posted it to the blog.
Girlfriend you are living in a fantasy. You have two kids and an ex-husband. They have to live together some of the time and aren't likely to do that in the farm. So where? Your old house? Can you afford to deed it over to him? If not, how is he going to pay for it? Plus, where do they go to school? Madison or Darlington? Is your ex up for losing them to a new school district and a new glamorous stepdad? Watch out. Also, if he remarries, which he likely will any minute after you do, you'll have to renegotiate all of the above. I see $$$ arguments all over the place.
Best of luck on the road you're on, but be sure you have lawyers (and therapists) at all the turns.
Posted by Sansa on 10/27/2009 at 12:34pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I met a lady with two kids and I also had a commitment phobia to overcome. The night before the wedding I told her I was not sure this was the right thing for me to do. We had already sold two houses and bought one together at this point. Yikes. I married without knowing if I could really ever commit 100%. That was 22 years ago and each year is better than the one before. Congrats to you!!!
Posted by Ken on 10/27/2009 at 12:55pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hi Penelope…
Best wishes for this new step in life…
Living on a farm land and calmly blogging with a laptop in the lap of nature is certainly a great life!
Posted by SEO Mantra on 10/27/2009 at 01:21pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Your children will love spending time with the 'big city girl' your ex-husband marries in New York City. They will love the big city and all it has to offer! They will dread going back to a place with nothing exciting …. well you know ….. or I hope you know.
Just for fun, please paint a picture for us. A picture of you, your children, and the Farmer in the year 2015.
Are you having flashbacks from 1970s scenes of the three children Carrie, Mary, and Laura Ingalls frolicing down the hill on the farm from "The Little House On The Prairie?" Yes, the drama television show was the "Farming" equilavent to "Disney World." They are fun to visit, but not a lot of reality. Have you even thought about it?
I belive the creative minds in the media create a make-believe world for those who need it and who are seeking it. Disney World does it for money. Farmers do it for welfare.
"Farming" has always been a "welfare" business. It always has been. Look up the numbers. The math simply does not add up for a profit.
Anyway, enjoy the monthly U.S. Government welfare checks and the food stamps!
Lisa
Posted by Lisa on 10/27/2009 at 01:49pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Lisa,
Know much about farming? Midwest farmers aren't getting welfare checks, they're getting nice, fat subsidy checks. Corn is the one of the most highly subsidized industries in the U.S.
Posted by rennie on 10/27/2009 at 10:36pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Rennie,
Yes, I agree with you.
I would almost consider the Farmers, homeless "Disney World" people. They work for years and never understand they make as much money as a "homeless person," both rely on welfare and foodstamps.
The only thing the "Disney World Farmers" are missing is the sidewalk and 'grocery store shopping cart" to push around their belongings.
Subsidized Farms is the age old Socialist policy, in simple terms, we call it "Farm Welfare." The "Disney World Farming Economics" starved the population and finally collapsed the Soviet Union in the 1980s.
I agree, corn and other "Subsidized Farms" have no incentive to make a profit. The U.S. Government Department of Agriculture still makes payments, rain or shine.
I also like the "Wind farms." They are also welfare programs. Who cares? These Windfarms give us our "Feel Green" feelings and have perfected the marketing! They make us all feel good about "global warming."
Call it what we wish. Look up the math. Total Farm Revenue is less than Total Farm Expenses, the U.S. Government Welfare Program (Subsidies) provides the difference.
Lisa
Posted by Lisa on 2009-10-28 12:51:31 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
Penelope, This might be a sensitive question, but since you Twittered that you had a miscarriage recently while at work, and you referenced wanting an abortion prior to the miscarriage, how does all this play into your recent announcement of marriage? So much going on. I hope you are thinking clearly. What do your long standing confident's say?
Posted by Holly on 10/27/2009 at 03:54pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Holly,
This is a recent, direct quote from the Brazen Careerist responding to David Dellifield, when he tells her , "penelopetrunk sorry your kids are a burden, send them to OH, we'll enjoy them for who they are.” Sounds like her "Farmer" story now, huh?
She writes the blog "I hate David Dellifieldd, The one who live in Ada, Ohio." She labels it "fulfillment" to "women" in April 2009. Part of the blog includs the following,
"This is normal behavior. I mean, intellectuals need intellectual stimulation, and that’s not something kids give.
This does not mean I don’t love my kids. Only an asshole would suggest that because I don’t want to stay home with them all day, I must not love them.
And all you people who say you’d love to stay home all day with your kids if you could, you are completely full of shit."
She continues with "Let me ask you something. Do those guys check their email when they’re getting a blow job?"
Holly. Seriously, does this sound like like a "person who is thinking clearly?"
Very nice ladylike behavior.
Monica
Posted by Monica on 10/27/2009 at 05:30pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Yay!!! Best wishes for your new life, the farm sounds really lovely and I wish you both all the happiness in the world.
Posted by Liz on 10/27/2009 at 09:21pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I love this! Congratulations for taking the risk. Isn't that what you encourage others to do? Nothing in life is a guarantee. Anyone who isn't somewhat commitment-phobic and terrified of marriage has no idea what's going on! It's the nature of the landscape.
I went to what was ETHS (Evanston) back in the day – it had very little bearing on what I do today. I moved to a small town – Crystal Lake – to a farm, amazingly, and it had very little to do with who I am today.
Where I felt loved and nurtured has everything to do with who I am – it appears you are making a lovely choice.
Posted by Mary Lyn on 10/28/2009 at 11:56am | permalink | Reply to this comment
WAY TO GO!!!
Hope it works out better than last time.
Love how you set up all the links to the different parts of the story, because you knew we would ask!
Posted by Ms. Mama on 10/28/2009 at 03:05pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
So I'm curious, what will this mean for your ex-husband who's part-time living in your house? : )
Posted by LS on 10/28/2009 at 10:35pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
You worry too much… perhaps a little hung up on the material side of life. If you're so worried about "things" and accomplishments, Bill Gates is a college dropout…
Posted by John Michael on 10/30/2009 at 09:33am | permalink | Reply to this comment
For some reason, I have always happened on your blog around the time you've posted something about the farmer, and even your first post made me wonder. He seemed to bring a gentleness that touched your heart, and as I am married to a gentle man myself, I know how precious that can be. And life-giving. I pray that God will guide you both as you begin a new chapter of your lives together, and that by His grace this will be a very good thing for you both and for your children. I am very excited for you. A quiet life does have to be antithetical to challenge and achievement, and I am excited that you and your boys are starting a new chapter where the possibilities really are endless.
Posted by Christi on 10/30/2009 at 02:02pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Oops, I meant to say… "A quiet life does _not_ have to be antithetical to challenge and achievement…."
Congratulations again!
Posted by Christi on 10/30/2009 at 02:04pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
Based on what you've said, I think you're making a good choice.
Posted by mysticaltyger on 10/30/2009 at 03:51pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
be with the farmer if your happiness is deeply rooted in a flourishing relationship. for others, they first need to discover their potential before they can discover it in someone or something else. Love does conquer all, though. And timing is crucial in one's decision process.
Posted by sarah on 11/03/2009 at 08:30pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am very happy for you. I married a kind, calm and gentle man after a nasty divorce. I too struggled with seriously dating and not getting married because of my daughter. We have now been together 11 years and marrying him was the best thing for me and my daughter. I wish your whole family the best. And remember, you are only a short drive from Madison. :)
Posted by Sarah on 11/04/2009 at 09:12am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Looked you up after reading about you in the paper (the miscarriage comment).
Wow, not surprised the farmer keeps dumping you – you are so far up your own arse you don't need anyone else!
Sweetie, stop crediting yourself with high intelligence – if you were then you wouldn't have had one previous abortion let alone be as old as 42 and at risk of needing another.
I feel sorry for your kids, unless they are pond life just like you!
Posted by Me on 11/05/2009 at 10:56am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I just want to reach out & hug you. Life is hard in so many ways; finding someone you love who loves you back is a gift. Finding someone that you can build a life with? Priceless.
Posted by Deanna McNeil on 11/08/2009 at 12:38pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Everyone in my life uses Penelope.
–Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on 12/08/2009 at 06:42pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think in life you have to take chances sometimes, i have moved across the country before for a girl. Friends, family, everyone said i was crazy, unfortunately it didnt work out but i got 2 years great experience from it. Follow what you feel inside and you wont have regrets. Just make sure you learn from any mistakes and try not to repeat them.
Posted by Tynan on 02/17/2010 at 10:24pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hi Penelope,
Felt like too much to lose and too much to lose, both decisions. But from what I've been reading daily, I know that you won't have a hard time choosing the farmer over your career nor the future. You live day by day, taking each step at a time like tomorrow's one game to play. You barely sounded anxious. You are one tough woman and you can deal with just about anything.
Jonha
Posted by Jonha @Happiness on 03/18/2010 at 08:11pm | permalink | Reply to this comment