Agents contact me on a regular basis to ask me if I want to do a book about my life.
I say no.
I say no because I have no idea how to do a book about my life. I’m sure I have no idea because I already have had a six-figure book deal to write about my life that I’m not delivering on, and the editor has dumped me. (Read: Phone calls to collect on the large advance I’ve already spent.) So my qualifications to tell you advice about how to write about one's life are questionable. But whatever; I have never stood on ceremony over qualifications.
Maybe the problem is that my life story needs a redemptive moment. This is what my agent-who-is-no-longer-my-agent tells me. And this is a warning to any agent who thinks they might want to be my agent: My past agent dumped me because (even though I did deliver on my first book deal) I am terrible at writing book proposals and I am terrible at following publishing industry rules. And her number one rule is that if you write about your life there must be a redemptive moment because people like that. “That’s what sells,” is my not-my-agent’s way of saying “That’s what people like to read.”
So, okay. I try to see that. I mean, I’ve read plenty of memoirs – Girl, Interrupted, Smashed, Darkness Visible—all good books. All very redemptive at the end, for sure. But I’ve also read Anna Karenina. Well, I haven’t, but I’m able to spoil the ending for you right now anyway (skip to the next paragraph if you don’t want the spoiler). She gets hit by a train. I think she kills herself.
That seems redemptive to me. I mean, at least she doesn’t have to wake up to her same problems every day.
I have told this to my not-agent. She said that people do not want to read about my fascination with suicide. It’s true. I am fascinated by suicide: Why don’t more people kill themselves? Life is very hard. And there is no sane reason to believe it will, at some point, get easier. So why do we keep going? I don’t know. This fascinates me.
(Here is a great book of suicide letters. And here’s a tidbit for all you productivity gurus: People in their 20’s who kill themselves write suicide notes about how much they love the people who will be most hurt by the suicide: their parents, a boyfriend maybe. People in their 30’s and 40’s write suicide notes that are informational to-do lists: Where the cat food is, when the kid’s homework is due, how to find the keys to the safety deposit box.
Both types of letters are great examples of how people have totally lost perspective when they kill themselves. This baffles me, since I also feel that we have totally lost our perspective by choosing to not kill ourselves.)
Okay. So I told my not-my-agent that my proposal for a memoir is redemptive because the reader will see that I did not kill myself before I got to the date of the national book tour.
That did not work for her.
So I said my book is redemptive because I had an insane childhood and look, now I’m not living on the street.
My agent told me that my life is too precarious for my surviving childhood to be redemptive. She told me I could write about keeping my marriage together even though we both have Aspergers Syndrome, but before I could write the proposal (and convince my ex that this would be okay to write) we divorced.
What about writing about the divorce?
She said divorce is not redemptive. I’m pretty sure that’s when she told me to get a new agent.
Okay. So back to me telling you how to write about yourself. I say, forget about redemption. It’s false. I read The Glass Castle, and I think it’s nice Jeanette Wallis got out of her hell-hole family, but really, I want to know what her fights with her husband are like on her zillion-dollar Hamptons estate.
I think you should write the truth. Be real. If you obsess about redemption instead of the truth, you’ll be like me, writing nothing, because life is not redemptive. Life isn’t like that. Just write your own messy life, and let it spill out.
But, wait. Here’s the problem with that. Your life is boring. I’m sorry to tell you this. But actually all our lives are boring. Which is another strike against obsessing over redemption: it doesn’t make your life interesting, but good writing always makes life interesting.
So you need to tell something true to make people want to read, but you need to be interesting doing it.
Do you want to know what interesting is? How many articles and stories and blog posts have you read about getting fired? Six million, right? Everyone wants to tell their story. Most suck. But here’s a great one: The CEO of Sun wrote a tweet to announce his resignation. It’s interesting because of the media he chose, it’s interesting because of the timing, and it’s interesting because it’s a haiku:
Financial crisis/Stalled too many customers/CEO no more
The bar is high if you want to be interesting. What can you do? Here's what I do:
1. Assume you are not all that interesting. The reader does not want a peek into your life. Not enough people care. Do you know how I know? Because porn is boring. Sure, if you’re using it for masturbation, it’s interesting, because then it’s giving you something. But if not, what are you doing watching? Who cares about someone else’s sex life? And you can be sure that the peek into your life is never going to be as interesting as a porn movie. So forget writing a blog post merely to give someone a peek.
2. Cut fifteen percent of everything you write. Because no one is so interesting that they can’t cut words.
3. Write to give the reader something they want. I try to focus on this with every post I write. But in fact, this is advice about how to do anything in your life: Help people as much as you can. Give people what they need, and if you focus on that, the rest will fall into place. This is true of how to network, how to parent, how to manage people and also how to write about your life.
So really, the world is full of ways to give to each other, and we’re all just looking for the best way. And this, in the end, is probably why we don’t kill ourselves.








Most people don't know what they want, although they think they do. And, even when you tell someone you care about the truth (well, as you see it), they get all pissed off. People tend to like to live in denial and delusions. I do, too, sometimes — it's easier! And, then you don't have to kill yourself.
PT, you do give very interesting advice; if nothing else, you make people think. But, what also makes you interesting is your honesty about your life. Advice aside, most of us feel comforted by, "Oh, wow, that's what I'm going through, too."
Posted by Kat Wilder on 02/11/2010 at 08:56am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Good post. I disagree with your editor about the redemptive moment: train wrecks are fascinating in and of themselves, because of the sheer power and totality of the disaster. So if your life is a train wreck, write about your train wreck. (And I don't think your life IS a train-wreck, by the way. Yours is a typically dysfunctional life, and that is why you have so much trouble writing a book about it. You don't see the uniqueness in your typical-ness.)
A book about your life would be supremely interesting if you focused on Asperger's and how it has affected each phase of your life. You'd then appeal to multiple audiences. Think about it. And deliver on that promise. You'll feel better if you do.
Oh, and you missed another — and to this editor, crucial — reason that Sun's CEO's resignation tweet is interesting: It's haiku.
Posted by Editormum on 02/11/2010 at 09:01am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Oh yeah. I totally forgot to say haiku. And that was my whole point in putting the twitter there in the first place. Thanks for reminding me. I added it. I love that it's never too late to edit a blog post :)
Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on 02/11/2010 at 09:06am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Very solid advice Penelope,
I've always been the kind to write about my ideas and my beliefs, rather than my life. And maybe sustain them with personal experiences. I think there are a lot of ways to write about your life without actually writing a book about it. This is what blogging from the personal perspective is about for me.
Eduard
Posted by Eduard @ Ideas With A Kick on 02/11/2010 at 09:03am | permalink | Reply to this comment
As a new reader, I wish you had followed your own advice when writing this post. I skipped 80% of it.
Posted by ReaderX on 02/11/2010 at 09:13am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penny,
Write about your youth, what stopped you from completely going off the deep end, and why you journey on. It's what keeps me coming back for more.
My2centsworth
Posted by Dale on 02/11/2010 at 09:14am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think that you should definitely write that book. I don't care what you've been told audiences want to read about! There is a definite audience for a story about your life.
Posted by Mneiae on 02/11/2010 at 09:16am | permalink | Reply to this comment
As someone who has both struggled with depression and is very logical, it has also puzzled me that more people don't kill themselves. Maybe we're addicted to the story of our own lives, and we don't want to end it before the big reveal.
Also, I'm in my 20s and I laughed to read a summary of a suicide note I have written too many times. We all think we're so different, don't we?
Posted by JillPR on 02/11/2010 at 09:19am | permalink | Reply to this comment
In evolutionary terms, an individual that commits suicide before reproducing removes whatever genetic traits may have contributed to their inclination to destroy themselves from the gene pool.
On the other hand, an individual with a strong drive towards self-preservation and reproduction is more likely to survive and pass on whatever genetic traits contribute to those inclinations to the next generation.
Of course, the situation is not purely genetic, but you can see where evolutionary pressures would favor self-preservation over self-destruction. In some ways, we don't kill ourselves because we're the descendants of people who didn't kill themselves (or at least not before they could reproduce.)
Posted by Anthea on 02/11/2010 at 04:03pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Have you ever wondered if the memories of those who preceded us are somehow encoded into our own (like our genetic DNA)? I suspect they are. Somewhere. Somehow. The mind is the final frontier.
Posted by Maureen Sharib on 2010-02-12 05:17:31 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
This is really, really good writing advice. Penelope, this is what interests me about your writing:
when you talk frankly about the reactions of others to you)
Your kids, your boyfrined's, your co-workers, your ex-husband's, your mother's, your father's, your father's wife… THAT stuff. How you manage personal relationships. What it's like to live in your skin.
That's redemption for some.
Posted by Maureen Sharib on 02/11/2010 at 09:24am | permalink | Reply to this comment
feedblitz is working a lot quicker! thanks
Posted by Sinead on 02/11/2010 at 09:30am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I have been waiting for your book!!! I love your writing and think your life is way more interesting than anyone else I know. I think you need to do a Heather Armstrong and have a reality show instead of a book–I'd much rather watch your life than hers.
Here's my question: what if you do have a life that's actually interesting enough that it would sell books–but you don't want to wreck your current life by doing the book about the old, crazy life in your real name. Will publishers let you publish under a fake name? Or is the whole point that it's real so they want to see the real writer?
Posted by Maggie on 02/11/2010 at 09:32am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I would never write under a fake name. It got me into too much trouble.
http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/05/my-name-is-not-really-penelope/
It took me so long to get everyone in my life to use the name Penelope. I'll never do another name thing again. And I'm writing this to caution everyone: It is so unnecessarily complicated to write under a different name.
Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on 02/11/2010 at 09:39am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Depression is a fascinating subject. Why don't more people kill themselves? Because the way we all experience life has far more to do with our inner life state than what's actually happening to us, and even horribly depressed people still want to be happy–they've just lost the hope they can be. The desire to kill oneself requires the incredibly powerful survival instinct be completely overpowered by despair. I suppose the relatively low incidence of depression (compared to how many people live of planet Earth) is a testament to how strong that survival instinct is, as well as to the power of hope that things will improve. Ultimately, I think the true cause of depression (or most common cause) is a lack of belief in one's ability to become happy.
http://www.happinessinthisworld.com/2009/03/08/the-true-cause-of-depression/
Posted by Alex @ Happiness in this World on 02/11/2010 at 09:36am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Alex, FYI — I just posted commentary on my blog on your blog post linked above. Cheers!
Posted by Bock on 02/13/2010 at 06:13pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Alex: "Depression is a fascinating subject. Why don't more people kill themselves?"
Speaking from experience, it was the realization that ending this particular mind-state/personality view at this particular time and place was not going to be any kind of lasting solution to fixing the ultimate reality that needed fixing.
I knew my mind was "ill" (so to speak), and that I needed to fix that first before taking any rash decisions about ending a life. In other words, whatever was troubling me here, was not going to go away just because I ended this life. I needed to get to the root of the problem (which is eventually what I did).
It takes being honest with oneself and being able to see clearly what is happening, without deluding oneself any further, in order to overcome depression. And then it takes hard work at being able to get over and see through all the negative self-talk that goes through the mind of a depressed individual. This may mean working with someone you trust who can help you over this hurdle.
Posted by Thom@Forex Trading Systems on 03/05/2010 at 10:47am | permalink | Reply to this comment
"Give people what they need, and if you focus on that, the rest will fall into place. This is true of how to network, how to parent, how to manage people and also how to write about your life."
Great message. I understand how it applies for parenting and management, but networking is a hurdle for me. I need to carry around this advice while I work on my networking skills. How do you get to a point with professional networking where other people want to hear your suggestions and input?
Posted by Adriana on 02/11/2010 at 09:40am | permalink | Reply to this comment
My thought on networking is that too many people who fear it approach it the wrong way. Don't think of it as doing something for yourself, think about doing it for someone else. How can you help someone else? Can you connect someone who wants something (a job, a new assignment) with someone else in that industry? Pull yourself out of it and you're networking. I believe that in the end if you do it selflessly, it will come back to you in very good ways.
Posted by JB on 02/11/2010 at 10:17am | permalink | Reply to this comment
@Adriana – instead of offering your opinions, think. Who do you know that would benefit from meeting someone else you know? Who can you connect?
If you help people make professional connections they'll help you do the same. And they'll see you as someone who knows people … and therefore should be asked for opinions.
Posted by Melissa Breau on 02/11/2010 at 03:41pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Perceiving that one has viable options in his or her life situation determines one's level of depression. Things may not be going well, but if you believe you have options for overcoming the present situation, then depression is less likely to occur.
Posted by Dale on 02/11/2010 at 09:40am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Redemption isn't logical. Doesn't need a visible moment. Sometimes we can be redeemed by sun coming through a tree's branches. Some of us, that is. The cheerful ones. In the end it's probably all genes and chemistry.
Posted by LPC on 02/11/2010 at 09:40am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
I believe you can do anything! If you do not want to write a book, then you won't. I enjoy reading everything you write. You are a genius in my book. So honest. That is refreshing. It is not always nice, but who cares? It is your life and you tell us about a variety of things. It is interesting.
If you wrote a book, perhaps it would be too intense for people. I like reading the bits and pieces you send via the blog.
You ROCK!
Posted by Socorro Luna on 02/11/2010 at 09:43am | permalink | Reply to this comment
My daughter has recently asked me to write about my life . . . and my inclination is to review my upbringing, and how the values and passions got "planted" as they did. This is apparently interesting to my daughter, though it might not be interesting to everyone. I think my daughter wants to understand the women who stand behind me in a cue in time . . . my own mother and grandmother . . .
Again, you bring up the value of helping others, Penelope. I am inspired and comforted whenever you do: 1) because holding this value and acting upon it makes life very simple and honest; 2) and if this is truly a key to success, then I don't ever have to play the games and strategize in order to make good–it is freeing!
"Interesting"–whatever that means . . . I recently read an idea in the book, Wolf Hall by Hilary Mantel, wherein Thomas Cromwell interviews young men who want places in the prosperous Cromwell household. Thomas asks these young men what they value and what they would value under duress; and " what it is that they can do in this world, that they alone can do" (p. 437).
THAT answer is what makes the applicant interesting and valuable and qualifies him/her, it seems to me. And the interviewer is truly interested when s/he asks such a question.
Chris
Posted by chris Keller on 02/11/2010 at 09:52am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Understanding who our ancestors were/are is an eye-opening experience and one of the keys to unlocking our own understanding. That's what I believe.
Posted by Maureen Sharib on 02/12/2010 at 05:45am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Life is totally redemptive. Love, squishy juicy love, is redemptive. Every day that you wake up and remember to be grateful is redemptive. Yes, I am that effing ray of sunshine. I am married to a depressed man. I know all about depression. He is Eyeore, I am Tigger (but an introverted one if that makes sense). It works. But I refuse to get sucked into his black hole, jump around it or cater to it. That's his gig. I'm over here having some fun and he can join me if he likes. Why are we married? I love him. His love redeems me. My life is better becuase he, in all his Eyeore self, is in it. He's brilliant, the best Dad ever and the only person I want to touch toes with at night while my toddler sleeps between us.
You know where the redemption is in your story? That you are succeeding against all odds. I know many parents of Aspie kids who want to know that their kids are going to make it.
Suicide is horrible, and we love to dance with it, but in the end it's a cop out. It's the most self absorbed act ever, and I have kids and people I love and I am not selfish enough to think that 'punishing' them like that would teach them anything. I don't think it's alluring, and although I find it sad that people who do are so broken that they see no other way to live, I refuse to glorify it.
Posted by justamouse on 02/11/2010 at 09:53am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I agree. Suicide is a hideous thing to introduce into a family's history. It makes it more "acceptable", if that makes sense.
Posted by Maureen Sharib on 02/12/2010 at 05:46am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Your post prompted me to respond: I used to find it very difficult to write about myself – but technology has really helped. With my mobile camera, I can send photos to my posterous blog directly. Or I can be on the train or tube and catch a few moments to send a comment or two to the blog from gmail.
Posted by Bill on 02/11/2010 at 10:00am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Mom is right!
Posted by Neeraj Bhushan on 02/11/2010 at 10:02am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am not sure what this blog is about. It seems to be about writing, but not really. It seems to be about how boring life is and how can people stand their own boring life, but not really. I even take exception to some of your advice:
1. Your right people are not interested in someone's sex life but they are interested in glimpses into it. One of the things people enjoy most about you is when you are willing to give glimpses into that personal life. When you talk about sex. When you talk about your family, coworkers, friends. That is the sex life – the personal things that make up your life. You are one of the best at doing doing this. You do it behind a curtain with shadows, giving hints of it, but not giving too much detail.
Anyways your stream of thought seems to be kind of wandering today (or maybe I am having one of my dense days), but you wrapped it up nicely. Fun either way. Caio.
Posted by theWiz on 02/11/2010 at 10:03am | permalink | Reply to this comment
In an early creative writing class, I wrote a story that showed my mother in what I thought was a particular unflattering light – drunk, maudlin, with exceedingly poor judgment about what was good for her then-fifteen year old daughter (me). I felt guilty for that portrait of my mostly sweet mother, but the class loved that character more than anything else in the story. In fact, they raved about her. It was an eye-opening moment.
I relate to your struggles with Aspergers, even though I don't have Aspergers.
When I read Better Never to Have Been by David Benatar recently, I found it both redemptive and optimistic (even cheerful!) for reasons that most people wouldn't get.
Posted by Sheryl on 02/11/2010 at 10:10am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I read your post.
Then I read this post:
http://www.graceisforsinners.com/life/my-artist-rendered-sketch/
Then I read your post again and thought. Hmmm…
Posted by Dread Pirate on 02/11/2010 at 10:27am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Grace is one of the least understood (and talked about) miracles. http://tinyurl.com/yzl4592 <—wonderful essay mentioning the redemptive power of grace (about the writer Flannery O'Connor)
Posted by Maureen Sharib on 02/12/2010 at 05:54am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think one of the great thing about blogs is how they can be a platform for writing those slice-of-life moments in a way that is entertaining and engaging, but do not have to be redemptive.
Posted by jim on 02/11/2010 at 10:42am | permalink | Reply to this comment
one of your best. the career stuff is ok, but it feels like you write that when you are being boxed in by those around you. I am hooked on the personal stuff like a college student hooked on a soap opera. I would buy a book about your life the moment it hit amazon. Oh, and bring the damn farmer back – i miss him…
Rick
Posted by RickSmithAuthor on 02/11/2010 at 11:04am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
Sounds like you can use a writing coach. I recommend Shari Caudron. She is a fantastic writer, especially of personal essay, but is also known for helping others get their great story out. She has helped me tremendously. You can find Shari at http://www.sharicaudron.com.
Posted by Stephanie Bruno on 02/11/2010 at 11:05am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Good points you made- the ones I thought were particularly interesting were the part about writing being redemptive(I need to bear that in mind when writing) and the 15% editing. If all bloggers did it, their stuff would be a whole lot easier to read and understand.
And, on the subject of "how to write", I need to emphasize the way your posts always help me with my creative writing, not only with my blog entries, but also with stuff I need to edit/ write/ proofread in my daily life as a professional.
Posted by Anca C on 02/11/2010 at 11:15am | permalink | Reply to this comment
So it's all in the telling, I conclude. You could talk about the dirt and make it interesting, and funny too.
I've just begun to write about my messy life, trying to protect it's ordinariness from the kind of comments you describe. Even my 'process' (if I have such a thing) would not stand up to scrutiny.
And my redemption sure doesn't look like a watershed.
Posted by Colette on 02/11/2010 at 11:17am | permalink | Reply to this comment
The standard evolutionary just-so story would be this: most of us don’t because we’re descended from the ones who didn’t (or did later in life, not early).
Posted by Ann on 02/11/2010 at 11:17am | permalink | Reply to this comment
The only good memoirs are interesting ones, and truthful ones, and ones where the author has a voice. All the garbage about redemption is just distraction. Life IS boring, but we all have amazing stories to tell. I would love to read about your insane childhood, or your Asberger's marriage, along with your obsession about suicide. You need a good editor, not an agent.
Posted by whitney on 02/11/2010 at 11:32am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm also fascinated by suicide (especially assisted suicide), for nearly the same reasons, except that I don't find it surprising that so few people kill themselves (people who are not inclined to kill themselves tend to have more children and pass on their not-inclined-to-kill-themselves genes).
If you think life is, on balance, hard and unhappy (which i'm sure it is), then how did you justify having children? (As in justify to yourself.) Or did you not think about it that way? Seems to me that life is something you don't ask to be brought into, and then it's ****ing hard to get out of again without a huge amount of will power or a huge amount of despair, and disregard for your loved ones.
This isn't meant to be a horrible question – I'm genuinely interested… I'm actually a pretty happy person myself, but I figure any one child you bring into the world is odds-on going to have a mostly-hard or mostly-unhappy life…
(Incidentally I don't particularly believe in the quest for happiness in life anymore – tend to think aiming for good health and loving relationships and self-knowledge/self-acceptance are all more important. I think if you're occupied enough with those, then you don't really have or need the time to sit around and think 'am i happy?')
Posted by A question on 02/11/2010 at 11:40am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This is why reality TV is so boring. Reality has no plotline. So it has to be contrived by choreography and editing.
Yawn.
Give me a rip-snorting, car-chasing, bad-guy-goes-down comedy-thriller with a hot hero, a cocky grin, an implausible plot, and a hidden band of great writers, and I'll buy the popcorn.
Posted by Nancy on 02/11/2010 at 11:44am | permalink | Reply to this comment
1. I'd love to have all your blog posts in book form. That would be a great book!
2. There are only a couple bloggers that have something to say. You're one. The other is Steve Pavlina (http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog). What a combination! In both cases, the blogs give good information and show growth. In both cases, it's much better to have read all the previous blog entries. So much for the idea in point 1. Don't put them in book form.
3. I'm leery of Self Help books, but they give me a temporary burst of confidence (much like reading a blog about happiness, I'm happy reading the piece, but not long after wards). I'm reading "The Power of Now". Good book. Put your blog in book form. Ah, forget that, downloadable pdf, to save me from copying and pasting all your postings into a Word document. Ugh.
Sorry for the rambling – you're great! I almost wrote, "It strikes me that your blog may be my redemption. Write about that!" But, WTF; all we need is growth; too bad it happens as we get older.
Posted by Rich Williams on 02/11/2010 at 11:45am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think you are CRAZY. Life can be so great and you make it so much harder on yourself than it needs to be. And your life is redemptive. Write about how you have been successful in your career despite your Aspergers, although I think you might not like this because as you mentioned in a previous post, it would glorify the abnormal. I still think it could be an interesting & compelling story to those of us "normal" people.
Posted by Tina Esparza-Luna on 02/11/2010 at 11:49am | permalink | Reply to this comment
If your agent thinks divorce can't be redemptive, she's sadly mistaken. Sometimes it is a tragedy. Other times it's banal. But sometimes it's an awesome breakthrough and a healing experience.
Posted by Sarah Morehouse on 02/11/2010 at 12:05pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Love this post, Penelope. Love!
I honestly think you have a memoir in you — you just haven't figured out what it will focus on. You DO have redemptive qualities (although, for the record, redemption can get boring). Maybe it will take a few more years for you to see how your life strings together to feel redemptive. Maybe that redemption moment hasn't happened yet. But it WILL be there at some point, and you'll see it eventually.
When you write about yourself, there's a fine line between revealing enough information to make it interesting, and revealing too much. I wrote a post about this recently — Why you should reveal embarrassing details in memoir. You, Penelope, do this incredibly well, in a way that helps us see you as a real person.
http://alexisgrant.wordpress.com/2009/12/22/why-you-should-reveal-embarrassing-details-in-memoir/
Posted by Alexis Grant on 02/11/2010 at 12:12pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I don't understand your Asperger's. Why do you think you have it?
Posted by Triin on 02/11/2010 at 12:28pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow. I wasn't expecting you to answer the great, unanswerable question in your blog post today: why people choose to live when it's completely, utterly illogical in many cases.
But you're right. You're absolutely right. And thank you.
Posted by Sabrina Morgan on 02/11/2010 at 12:33pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
On a semi-related note, you might find this link interesting reading: http://users.aristotle.net/~diogenes/meaning1.htm
Posted by Sabrina Morgan on 02/11/2010 at 12:36pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
This is a really interesting topic. I never thought my life was interesting enough to write about, but then after reading David Sedaris's books (Me Talk Pretty One Day is my favorite), I realized that one can write about the must mundane things and make them funny and interesting. I tend to write about what I've learned in life — in hopes that I can help someone from making the same mistakes!!
I love your blog and your writing! In fact I've included your blog on a list of my favorites on my blog!
Posted by Barrie on 02/11/2010 at 12:40pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow Penelope, I'm a new follower and I must admit I'm hooked to your blog! I love your perspective on work life, and you've helped me realize that it's OK to not be completely settled professionally at the "old" age of 25 :) I don't feel so alone now, and I thank you for this!
I just read your previous post about your insane childhood, and I was wondering if your parents were still together, or stayed married after the abuse was admitted? Just curious…
Thanks, Tiffany
Posted by Tiffany on 02/11/2010 at 01:17pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm especially taken with your point #3, "Write to give the reader something they want." I think a lot of writers start out with essentially selfish motives (I know I did), which is a fine or at least okay way to start out; but if you want anyone else to actually read what you write, much less to pay for the privilege, your writing obviously has to give them something they want. This is something I've always known, but I think I'm still learning how to fully accept and then act upon that principle. You're helping me with that, so thank you.
In other news, earlier today I was about to post to my blog (ninelongnights.wordpress.com) about how and why I was disappointed by The Glass Castle, so I think it's a pleasing synchronicity that you mentioned that book in today's post. I linked to your post in an attempt to turn my eight or nine readers (maybe ten!) onto your blog.
Posted by Brent on 02/11/2010 at 01:28pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
If you would like to read a short and excellent memoir which is redemptive solely because the writer is surviving and interesting both because of the topic and the beautiful writing, you should read Two Kinds of Decay by Sarah Manguso. It's very very good. And it's bullshit free, which is rare and delightful.
Posted by Beth on 02/11/2010 at 01:36pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope – Like Alexis Grant, I am also confused about your Aspergers. You seem more bi-polar to me?
I'm going to go back and read some old posts to see if I can shed some more light on this…but it has been nagging at my mind every time I read one of your blog updates.
I do always enjoy them, regardless of your diagnosis. :-)
Posted by Eastside Aphrodite on 02/11/2010 at 01:42pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
That wasn't me…
Posted by Alexis Grant on 02/11/2010 at 03:34pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think you're right on when you say we need to find focus for every post.
Lately, there have been some trolls coming out of the woodwork over on my little bloggity-blog and they all say the same thing "you're self-righteous, you are in love with yourself" blah blah blah. At the end of the day, personal blogging is just that, it's personal.
My blog has evolved from me trying to be a big voice in the world of PR/SM bloggers, to writing more about myself and what I'm learning as I make this transition from corporate to college. Though my posts are mostly about me, they are riddled with advice that people in my same place can relate to.
I wish that more people (read: trolls) would realize that while I write about my dating fiascos, I am VERY aware that my situation is not unique, that this shit happens to everyone. We all go on bad dates. But it is unique, because I'm writing about it. Of all the people in the world that have been on bad dates, how many of them write about it? Not very many, in the grand scheme of things.
Excellent post, P. And if you ever do get a book deal that isn't career advice, shoot me a note. I'd wait in line for that bad boy.
Posted by Sydney on 02/11/2010 at 01:59pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thanks for your crazy, human and in the end lovable voice. I went to a big New Age conference a couple of years ago and the guy was a physician who was a "National Expert" on near death experiences. He told us many of the usual things that people see when they are close to death and comeback. You know the one where your life flashes before you and so on and so on. The one that I remember the most was that many people also reported was that there life did flash before then also but when it flashed they experienced ALL of the people that they interacted with through their eyes. So they saw a real glimpse of of what it was like to be them from the outside and from those in their lives.
So Penelope thanks for what you gave me today. A warmth and a gratitude to remember to give and in that giving I can find just a piece of my humanity and meaning.
Posted by CJ in LA -AKA the cruelest city in the world on 02/11/2010 at 02:08pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
Your voice, your perspective, and your opinions ARE redemptive. (Any editor/agent that doesn't see it isn't looking hard enough.) Whenever I finish reading one of your posts, I feel a sense of clarity or purpose that I didn't have before. I feel redeemed.
Keep doing what you do, and the perfect book will find its way onto your pages.
Best of luck.
Posted by Anjali on 02/11/2010 at 02:13pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Love this post! Full of a lot of great insight and advice I wish more people would follow!
Posted by Emily on 02/11/2010 at 03:00pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, your redemptive moment is the fact that you have chosen not to kill yourself. Faced with all the reasons you list (and more that you don't) you still choose life. And that my friend, is wherein your redemption lies.
Posted by Darlene on 02/11/2010 at 03:10pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
@ Alex! a "relatively low incidence of depression" in the world? Where did you read that? I'd like to see that report. Life is hard for the vast majority of people on earth. Positive thinking is a luxury reserved for the healthy, the safe, and the well-fed. Consider yourself very lucky.
@ Penelope I liked your explanation of why it's hard to write about our lives. I remember being asked once by a doctor what my childhood was like. I said "Same as everyone, I suppose." I can't believe I actually said that! It's unfortunate that we can imagine that abnormal circumstances are normal.
Posted by Diana on 02/11/2010 at 03:12pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Diana,
I certainly don't disagree that life is hard for the vast majority of people on earth, but that's an entirely different issue from the proportion who become depressed because of it. Numerous epidemiological studies have demonstrated that, even when you include mild depression (still strictly defined), the majority of people are not clinically depressed. Here's just one such study:
http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=26279
Posted by Alex @ Happiness in this World on 02/12/2010 at 08:41pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
@ Alex
Canada? I knew a couple of women from Canada and they did have sunny, confident personalities. Perhaps Canada has something in the water?
Wiki (I know, I hate Wiki too, but it's fast) says "Depressive disorders affect approximately 18.8 million American adults or about 9.5% of the U.S. population age 18 and older in a given year." I bet my analyst would say that's a very conservative estimate. Much of it is hidden because of stigma and lack access to health care. Depressive episodes during difficult times and/or illness is pretty common. Why do people fear the word depression? It's not a weakness you know.
Posted by Diana on 2010-02-12 22:36:36 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
All right, I'll ask the stupid question. Someone please define "redemptive" in this context. It's based on "redeem" which has several different meanings.
Posted by JR on 02/11/2010 at 03:21pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'd define "redemptive" as that moment when our past experiences clarify themselves in relation to our present. Yeah, I know. Huh?
Maybe this: Our present becomes the doorway through which we're able to pass into the future.
Still not good? Uhhh…I'd like to see others define it. It's not an easy concept to wrap your mind around UNLESS you've experienced it, I suspect.
Posted by Maureen Sharib on 02/12/2010 at 05:43am | permalink | Reply to this comment
People are using it differently, but: Liberating. Conquering adversity or shortcomings. Or more generally, producing a happy ending (that one doesn't fit the suicide application though)
Posted by Brad on 02/12/2010 at 06:06am | permalink | Reply to this comment
You say:
"Why don’t more people kill themselves? Life is very hard. And there is no sane reason to believe it will, at some point, get easier. So why do we keep going? I don’t know. This fascinates me."
Well, I read somewhere that it has to do with a fear of the unknown. We don't really know what comes after (and those people who believe they do, also believe that if they commit suicide they'll get the bad end of the bargain … excepting suicide bombers….hmmm)
Anyway, just thought I'd share my piece.
Posted by Melissa Breau on 02/11/2010 at 03:48pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, your agent, like many agents and publishers is an idiot. How many books, now considered great, were rejected by untold agents and publishers. Writing IS about telling the truth. You have an interesting story to tell. Please find another agent so I can read your book.
Posted by ISR on 02/11/2010 at 04:34pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
i think point 3 is very important, you have to keep your audience in mind and make sure that they are getting something out of it as well
Posted by adelaide dancing on 02/11/2010 at 05:00pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I like reading about the real messiness of life. I like the honesty of your writing. And reading about you wondering why more of us don't commit suicide literally made me laugh out loud. But maybe that's because I'm being medicated for depression right now.
Your writing reminds me Anne Lamott, my favorite memoirist (I also love her novel Blue Shoe– have you read it?) Messy, truthful, not-redeemed-once-and-for-all, but hopeful. I would love to read a book about your life.
Posted by ellab on 02/11/2010 at 06:24pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
..so just dig up your old posts and publish as an autobiography by blog post. They could be in chapters like 'the farmer' 'being a mother' and you could make comments on the original posts. (by the way, starting a successful company is pretty redemptive!)
Posted by Ann on 02/11/2010 at 06:50pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
So which is it? good writing always makes life interesting?
or you need to be interesting to write your life story? Chicken or the egg?
Posted by Heather Conroy on 02/11/2010 at 06:51pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I really believe that good writing can make any life interesting.
-Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on 02/12/2010 at 06:57am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Amen to that, Penelope.
And good writing is what is missing from most people, and from most memoirs.
Posted by Christy on 2010-02-12 10:36:02 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
I agree! If it is well-written, it will get read :)
ps it's Jeanette Walls, not Wallis
Posted by prklypr on 2010-02-12 14:00:07 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
I used to own an art gallery in eastern Europe. I'm originally from Canada but i went to live in Estonia from 1990 to 2004.
The transition from a soviet system to a capitalist system was traumatic for some. I had 3 artists commit quick suicides. One set himself on fire, one shot himself in the head, and the other hung himself. All male. The first and last when they turned 50. There were also many many long drawn out suicides, usually via alcohol.
I think many of us are committing suicide and we don't even realize it. We just give it other definitions.
I could talk about this theme for hours.
Posted by Viviann on 02/11/2010 at 07:22pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, I follow your blog on my RSS (though not religiously) and you have had some great posts – one of my recent favorites was the one about hating Tim Ferris. Much of his book was good, but you cut right to the sticky points.
Anyway, long wait today to get to the payoff (three tips), but a fun read and good tips. They'll be especially useful for me on Facebook, where I try to be interesting and often wonder why more people don't appreciate my terribly exciting life. Thanks for reminding me of something I often tell others – "nobody cares". But I mean it in a good way!
Posted by Mark on 02/11/2010 at 08:56pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hi PT: OK, I want to comment, but I decided to respond in my blog, which you inspired me to start writing, which I started on 1-1-10. So I am commenting here: http://janhogle.wordpress.com/
I think you should write about your life but read my blog about that,
Sincerely,
The Ferret Mom in Madison
Posted by Jan Hogle on 02/11/2010 at 09:49pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I haven't read Anna Karenina and it's on my list. I didn't know what happened in the end and I didn't look away quickly enough after your perfunctory spoiler alert. Boo!
Posted by Caitlin @ Roaming Tales on 02/11/2010 at 10:02pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
It’s all baffling to me; why I haven’t killed myself, I haven’t been killed, and more so that I haven’t killed anyone. Just being alive is redemptive.
Not seeing divorce as redemptive is possible only by someone who doesn’t understand redemption. I’ve gone through three of them, I’m now sure there will not be a fourth, and I’m fine with that.
Writing is a tremendous gift to others, it’s your gift to so many, Penelope. Thank you for what you write about yourself, it’s career and life advice.
Remembering what you have written is something I carry with me.
Posted by David on 02/11/2010 at 10:46pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thank you, for me this is easily one of the most fun-to-read entries in the long series of your blog. Yes, giving what they need is tough also because the line between giving what people need and giving what people say they need is too blurry most of the times. The latter, in wors-case scenario, leads to sucking up (which is appropriate in some cases).
Posted by Isao on 02/11/2010 at 11:02pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
This one was great, especially the takeaway at the end. Human being are social creatures and we are meant to collaborate to make our lives easier. When I look at some of the most successful people I know (atleast the ones who are both successful and happy) I think they bring the same attitude of "how can I help someone get what they need" into their career. This allows them to accomplish a lot while putting things in perspective and maintaining a positive outlook about the grind along the way.
Posted by Adrian on 02/12/2010 at 06:49am | permalink | Reply to this comment
We live lives of accumulated errors. All the little mistakes add up. If we admitted this we would kill ourselves more often. We also live lives of accumulted small successes which are supposed to balance out the errors. The two are almost never related. They may be connected when we see others AE's and do something about it that comes to fruition/ redemption. They may be connected when medicene intervenes to stop the self abuse or the course of AE's in nature. Redemption should stay in religion where it does something physcological for the believers. Ask those with cancer about redemption and radiation and chemo are not at the top of the list.
Posted by Michael Alexander on 02/12/2010 at 08:34am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I like this, Michael, even though it is gloomy.
Redemption is like love or quality of life–too big to define. Like an octopus with tentacles.
And what "saves a situation" (a possible definition for redemption) may be very different from person to person and from time to time, seems to me. AND so few things are permanent fixes–so that you or I or Penelope may need re-redemption.
Others have linked hope to redemption. This may work. Preserving hope.
If the agent/publicist meant that P needs a happy-ending flavor, I strongly disagree. Ask Will Shakespeare: tragedy sold as many or more theatre tickets as comedy sold. Likewise, learning a lesson from one's life story is overrated. Rilke said you must embrace the questions and let go of having answers (resolution or redemption).
Who knows when resolution or redemption comes, if ever. Let it go. Live the moment with a willingness to trudge on, believing that beauty or small rewards (or small successes, as you say) may come at some point. It is like having a good work ethic–keep working, keep trudging, do some sweating, nurse your aching muscles next day . . . and believe in yourself, that you are able and getting more able (stronger).
Chris K
Posted by chris Keller on 02/12/2010 at 09:35am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Great post. Most editors do want to try to sell books about redemptive stories. I have to admit I like to read them too. This is part of that love of escapism you wrote about recently as well. I was really disappointed when I read a novel a few years ago that was about a woman trying to fight infertility. In the end, she gave up. I found that really depressing and not fun to read the end.
I do also see some of your Aspergers, I'm guessing, in the part of being occupied with the thought of suicide. Either that or I'm just too happy about life. I know I have my unhappy moments, but I believe what my mother told me about suicide, "It's a permanent solution to a temporary problem." I believe things can be fixed. I do believe in redemption. But I do agree life is terribly messy and so far in my life everything has happened for a reason. In most cases I feel that reason is to help me be a stronger person.
Posted by Heather on 02/12/2010 at 09:36am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Giving up on her fertility may mean that she is choosing her battles; that it was too costly; that another option opened up; that she cultivated letting go and was ultimately able to let go (Zen style); or . . . . . . none of which is depressing to me. Just IMHO.
Chris K
Posted by chris Keller on 02/12/2010 at 11:08am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Brilliant post. I love rule 1 – a great piece of advice for any author or blogger. Rule 2 should probably be 50% though. Thanks!
Phil
Posted by Phil Bolton on 02/12/2010 at 10:53am | permalink | Reply to this comment
We might want to ask the question: Why does redemption sell? Making educated guesses about the answer(s) might lead to holding up the proverbial mirror to society.
Which may prove interesting.
Chris K
Posted by chris Keller on 02/12/2010 at 11:05am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think this crazy post here is my favorite yet.
Posted by Thanh Lu on 02/12/2010 at 02:09pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I came across this quote today and thought of this post…
There are lots of ways of being miserable, but there's only one way of being comfortable, and that is to stop running round after happiness. If you make up your mind not to be happy there's no reason why you shouldn't have a fairly good time.
– Edith Wharton
Posted by Melissa Breau on 02/12/2010 at 03:25pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Have you seen this article?
Its about how Aspergers syndrome is an asset for some jobs on NPR.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123567371&sc=fb&cc=fp
Posted by Delena on 02/12/2010 at 06:00pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I've always considered suicide to be a viable alternative to problems.
Posted by carol on 02/13/2010 at 01:21am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I don't like reading about other peoples lives unless they're:
1) Absolutely fascinating – Hitler, Napoleon and Caesar
2) Or completely trashy (ie. if Jerry Springer was real)
Posted by Mike on 02/13/2010 at 03:00am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I like to write about my life by giving people advice–in my case, dating advice. Then, the "peek" into my life is me telling them how much of a dating dummy I used to be. They are usually very funny and informative stories–or at least that's what my commenters tell me.
Posted by CrazyGirl on 02/13/2010 at 10:08am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I used to consider suicide an option. In fact, I looked at suicide as my comfort zone when life got too tough and I got too tired. My nephew blew his head off on Mother's Day, making a strong statement about his unhappiness and anger with his parents. I watched my sister and so many others suffer from his one big decision–including the son who was born after his dad was gone. Suddenly, suicide didn't seem so romantic or such an indulgence. I got another wake-up call when I witnessed a dear friend die within two months of a late-stage cancer diagnosis. She was the empitomy of health (always worked out, ate right), motherhood (mother of four good sons), grace, and strength. I then figured that life is very delicate and that I was going to do my best with this life that God has given me. I also got a damn good psychiatrist and therapist to work through my physical and mental issues. My work will never be done, but I'm dong my best. I deserve a better life. Thanks for sharing your truth.
Posted by Bella on 02/13/2010 at 07:55pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Sometimes suicidal thoughts are just the mind obsessively toying with a forbidden idea, not actual depression leading to planning a suicide. Meditation eventually helped me gain perspective on suicide thoughts as mere thoughts, just like "I have to go out buy Twinkies right now, even though it's the middle of the night and I hate Twinkies," and thus possible to shrug off. Turns out I don't have to be the slave of every whim that my mind suggests. (Whew.)
I've also come to see the difficult parts of life as being like walking a too-long uphill path. You can sit down and cry and whine "carry me!" or you can keep going until you reach the crest, have a view, appreciate the toil and strength it took you, and start downhill on the other side. I wonder how many old senior citizens deeply regret not killing themselves years earlier? Worth asking them, right? My guess is, not a lot, because by then they have seen all that they would have missed.
Life may be hard in any particular moment, but we rarely advise our loved ones to kill themselves to get out of THEIR difficulty. Imagine, your friend comes to you in despair, and you say logically, "Well, you could always kill yourself." NOT! Because then there are rain bubbles on a streaming windshield, and R.E.M. on the radio, and it's all deeply beautiful.
Over time, one learns to extend that hope and compassion to oneself.
Posted by EllenSka on 02/14/2010 at 01:57am | permalink | Reply to this comment
As a "newbie" to the blogging world I found your article to be very interesting, looking forward to skipping through the archives and future articles.
Posted by Devthom1 on 02/14/2010 at 04:55am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I wrote about my life and for some reason it was easy but very emotional, I only wish some publisher would believe in me enough to publish the 2nd edition….i self published the first edition and now..i am almost ready to print the 2nd…i found it inspirational, it was a self healing program for me to write and see where i had been and where i am now. but i understand your not wanting too, it is something you have to want to do and put your heart and soul into it.
Thanks.
Posted by winnie on 02/14/2010 at 06:54am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Again, I've journeyed into the delicate mind and feelings of Penelope Truck.
This post touched many sensitive issues in all of us, and you have received numerous intelligent comments, as always. So for now, I will briefly talk about depression, that foggy melancholia which heartlessly sucks the joy out of our days for no apparent reason.
I lived with it for years, sometimes even gagging while getting out of bed to go to work, choked by ambiguous fear. To break free of my dis-ease, and my resentments, through the years I studied (and participated in) eastern philosophies, metaphysics, meditation, channeled therapy, chanting, creative visualization, Sufi twirling, psychic enhancement training, music therapy, single malt scotch, pot, LSD, mescalin, and a generous helping of love and support. None of the above took the pain away, until…I met an American shaman trained at the Four Winds Society.
I was skeptical, but open for possibilities. I believed the idea that my body energy, my mind/spirit energy, even my thoughts, were blocked and locked. And so I allowed the shaman woman to "treat" me over a period of four sessions, each one being a gift. And then it came…finally, after so many years… personal "Redemption." I mean that in the way you used the word. I got my happy ending. I got my happiness back.
Am I 100% free of fear, stress, depression and resentments? No. But most of that debilitating resistance no longer hampers me. I don't know how she energetically released me, but she did somehow. I wish I had met her thirty years ago.
Don't ever give up, Penelope. Miracles do happen.
Posted by Irving Podolsky on 02/14/2010 at 04:43pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"…I have no idea how to do a book about my life."
Couldn't you just go through all your old blog posts, clip out the parts that are autobiographical, arrange them in chronological order, fill in the gaps, and have someone help you edit it for consistency and flow?
Keep adding on until you and The Farmer get married (that's back on, right?), then end the book there. Let the implication be "and then they lived happily ever after."
If you don't live happily ever after, well, then you'll have material for a sequel in a few years.
Posted by Jacqueline on 02/14/2010 at 09:30pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I agree giving people what they want is probably what keeps us going through the thick of shit. Writing about your life is both therapeutic (for you/we/I who are writing it) but writing only about giving people what they want can also be a bit boring as the person may come across in their writings as 'perfect'. When actually, I find the people's blogs I find most interesting are the ones that DO occasionally (and maybe that's the key: balance by occasional, rather than always) give me a peak into their lives, because it helps me see I AM NOT ALONE in my crap! That some-one else is going through it too! Yet they are sharing inspirational stuff at the same time.
I think the media encourage delusions and feelings of inadequecy by portraying images of false perfection . . . .
Amelia.x
Posted by Amelia on 02/15/2010 at 05:30am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, I am one who has never had any interest in writing my story, although I have been fortunate to have had some wonderul experiences. But that changed recently (well partially) when my son told me some of my early experiences really interested him and he suggested I write a book. AFter thinking about it, I started writing and the more I got into it, the more I enjoyed recalling and reliving as many life experiences as I could remember. And of course, there were some less than pleasant things which I quickly discarded. After three months, I finished the story up to year 2000 and I may add to my 141 page saga in a year or so. The point I want to make is I enjoyed every moment it took to look back on my life and relive the memories. My son and daughter have thanked me for doing it and seem pleased to have some voids in their knowledge revealed. Should I publish it? No need to…the world I'm interested in has read it.
Posted by John Riley on 02/15/2010 at 04:27pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
What attracts me to your writing? You are both practical and transparent–both big sellers. Baffle "not-my-agent." Write the book.
Posted by Beth Seversen on 02/15/2010 at 07:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am so sick and tired of the publishing industry and the music industry telling me what I want to read and or listen to. They treat the purchasing public like children.
People only want "redemption" because that's all the industry GIVES us.
What's wrong with "To Be Continued . . . "?
Posted by Lee Laughlin on 02/15/2010 at 07:58pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow. I often wonder why more people don't kill themselves too!
Great post and I agree with your mom. It is wonderful to see advice given and then violated in the same post.
Posted by Barbara A. Zelnick on 02/16/2010 at 11:25am | permalink | Reply to this comment
You are correct–our lives are often boring. I try to talk about things I believe my audience is interested in, but felt inclined to share this. Restrained, to be sure, but for me it's close to oversharing.
http://repletelife.blogspot.com/2010/02/when-your-ex-gets-engaged.html
Posted by Sue Boggs on 02/16/2010 at 07:50pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Maybe you should take your time and think about it. Sometimes, you don't know yourself as much as you think you do. I feel the same way about myself because sometimes I don't even know who I am, it's a confusing world.
Posted by Idaho dentist on 02/17/2010 at 04:20pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hope I will create a great profile in the light of above article :)
Posted by Ideal Softs on 02/21/2010 at 07:14am | permalink | Reply to this comment
You might be difficult to work with, but your agent was not doing you any favors by not helping you come up with that redemptive moment. First, surviving your childhood has been done successfully as a memoir (see Wasted by Marya Hornbacher and How I Learned to Snap by Kirk Reid). Granted, they work because they end right at the end of childhood, as the authors head into adulthood, but you could easily make that work for you. Second, you could also make your divorce work as a redemptive moment — while it leaves you with challenges to face, it also gives you new freedom and a chance to remake your life. Ending a book on that note, showing divorce as liberation (which has been done by many before you, and sold), would work.
I know you're not going to write a book about your life, but I think you could do it, and do it well, if you work with an editor before getting to the agent stage.
Posted by Lea on 02/28/2010 at 06:59pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Writing about your life is often the hardest thing to do. It takes a deep understanding of oneself that most people can't do or can't do very well.
Posted by Jo Green on 03/01/2010 at 11:13pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
You know, I've just stumbled across this blog – and you Penelope – and now I think I will be addicted to reading it.
I also am amazed why more people don't kill themselves, when times get tough it's hard to pull yourself through for one more day.
And then, last night, I watched an Australian movie titled 'The rabbit proof fence' a true story in 1931 about 3 little Aborigine girls walking 1500 miles to get back to their mother and homeland. It made me feel embarassed by how weak I can be – ready to throw in the towel at times. Is it that we have life too comfortable these days? Do we really need to experience horrendous events to see how wonderful the slightest blessing is?
I wonder if so many people thought of suicide during the two World Wars? Anybody know?
Posted by Ava Lene on 03/03/2010 at 05:55am | permalink | Reply to this comment
You might think you know what you want but really life can effect the way you see and think about things.
Just my 2 cents
Posted by Ohio Bag Man on 03/03/2010 at 04:03pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I never really examined the story of my life?
Posted by vintageposter05 on 04/04/2010 at 06:34pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Life can be so great and you make it so much harder on yourself than it needs to be.
Posted by Jessica on 04/21/2010 at 11:05am | permalink | Reply to this comment
"I think you should write the truth. Be real. If you obsess about redemption instead of the truth, you’ll be like me, writing nothing, because life is not redemptive. Life isn’t like that. Just write your own messy life, and let it spill out."
I read certain things and it sometimes reminds me of other things. This paragraph brought Seinfeld to mind. The show about nothing. I like Seinfeld and still watch some old shows but sometimes it gets so ridiculous and hilarious at the same time.
As far as a book about your life, maybe it should be handled as a resume might be – by someone else.
Also I miss and look forward to your next post. Webinars have their place but they are no substitute for the written word. It's like TV and radio – you need both and neither one will replace the other!
Posted by Mark W. on 06/12/2010 at 02:39pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I too am baffled by society's suicide rate. You stated:
"I have told this to my not-agent. She said that people do not want to read about my fascination with suicide. It’s true. I am fascinated by suicide: Why don’t more people kill themselves? Life is very hard. And there is no sane reason to believe it will, at some point, get easier. So why do we keep going? I don’t know. This fascinates me."
Clearly we are biologically programmed to survive but to get up each day and struggle through the adversity that accompanies so many people's lives, it's astounding more people don't hurl themselves, like lemmings, over a cliff.
Perhaps that is your redemption story right there. At the end of the day each of us finds the hope or promise we need. And we and cling to it for at least for another day, week or year.
Posted by JD on 07/26/2010 at 08:17pm | permalink | Reply to this comment