The All-Star Rodeo Challenge came to Madison, WI last weekend, and the farmer took me and my kids. I was not thrilled about going, but I try to be open-minded when it comes to stuff that is new to me that I am not ever wishing I will get a chance to experience.
I asked the farmer if rodeos are bad for the animals.
He said, “City people probably think so. But most farmers don’t.”
He told me that if I really hated it, we could leave.
I really hated it before there were any animals. Before there were animals there was the flag, rising above the dirt ring, and the announcer saying everyone should sing the Star Spangled Banner to honor “the flag that protects our troops, and our churches and our great country.”
I looked over at the farmer for churches, and before I could roll my eyes, the announcer said, “Everyone please rise in the name of Jesus and sing the Star Spangled Banner.”
I told my kids to stay seated.
The farmer stayed seated out of solidarity even though he hates standing out. It was a great moment of compromise for us.
We watched the rodeo. There was a clown. The kids did not quite know what was going on and they wanted to know why the cowboys had weird clothes. But then Ronald McDonald came out — right into the bull ring. The kids recognized him immediately, and then they realized the clown was not a cowboy; with Ronald McDonald present, the world seemed to fall into place.
Then out came the animals.
In between cowboys falling violently to the ground, the announcer would say jokes like, “My girlfriend says she wants to get married. I told her I hope she finds someone nice.”
The theme of the evening, in general, was “real men get thrown off bulls and treat women like crap.”
Until the women came out. They were acrobats on fast running horses. Sort of like the clowns, only dressed like Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders. The most special time, I think, was when two girls did tricks on one horse. The girls did not share a horse because the tricks are more difficult that way, it was more like the girls shared a horse to make you think they'd be available for a threesome after the show.
Luckily, this was lost on my sons. And the farmer acknowledged that this was not a family values kind of thing.
Okay. So we stayed. And then, the clown started talking about doctors. He said there are 120,000 doctors in the US and there are 70,000 accidental deaths a year. And there are 80 million gun owners in the US, and there are 12,000 accidental deaths a year. Then he shouted out, “So doctors are more dangerous than guns! So Washington, keep your hands off our guns and our health care!”
I looked at the kids. They were concentrating on their popcorn.
Then, out of nowhere, the clown brought out a wig, that had dreadlocks, and he put on a Rastafarian hat, and he started pretending that he was Barack Obama. He said, "I feel so presidential." And he made jokes about whether Obama is a US citizen.
Why am I telling you this?
First of all, it made me feel lonely. I have heard the doctor/gun owner argument before, but not in a stadium, in Madison, WI, which is one of the most left-leaning cities in the country. And I know there is racism in this country. But I can’t believe that not a single person in that stadium yelled out anything after a racist joke. I would expect, actually, that people would boo and hiss and throw things into the ring. But no one said a word.
I felt lonely that I live in a city where this could happen. I wish I could find a place where I feel like I fit in. I think I find it, and then I don’t. And really, how could I even think that I’d fit in at a rodeo? But I kind of thought the place would be full of people like me and the farmer. Now I think I don’t even know what that means.
Another reason the rodeo makes me sad is that McDonald’s sponsors it. My ticket stub says “All-Star Rodeo Challenge. Pre-show: McDonald’s Cowboys 4 Kids”. Somehow the whole thing is more upsetting because it’s sanctioned by McDonald’s. And they know better.
My company, Brazen Careerist, just launched a company section in our social network. The reason we did that is because according to Cone, 50% of generation Y communicate with companies through social media. And Jeremy Owyang, from Forrester Research reports that, "In approximately two years social networks will be more powerful than corporate web sites. Brands will serve community interests and grow based on community advocacy."
Today, young people see corporate brands as an extension of their identity—this is why Facebook has been so successful with corporate fan pages – young people want to express themselves by linking themselves to corporate brands they like.
And, people who manage their careers well end up paying more attention to a company’s reputation for caring about people and community than what any given job description is. After all, a job description can change the day you walk in the door, but how a company participates in the world around it is not likely to change quickly.
Okay. So. I confess to being relatively close to the McDonald’s brand. I didn’t use to be. I never ate at McDonald’s in my life until I moved to Madison. But in Madison, it’s a long, cold winter, and McDonald’s has great indoor playgrounds, all over the Madison area. And each is different and fun in it’s own way. So we tour them all winter.
Also, now that I understand the beef industry a little better, I understand that McDonald’s single handedly cornered the beef industry, yes, but also listened to consumer outcry over animal conditions, and meat quality, and improved both (by hiring Temple Grandin)
So I like McDonald’s. But today, I can tell you that if I had a job at McDonald’s, I’d be lonely. Because they sponsored an event that teaches kids prejudice and hate and racism. And if companies want to attract good employees, they need to be good corporate citizens. Those are the type of companies we want to work for.
One of the most important changes in work life is that we do not define our career by working for one company—we change jobs too frequently. Today, we define ourselves by the integrity with which we manage our career. That requires working with companies we respect. The integrity of individual companies matters more today than it used to—it affects the bottom line for those companies on both the consumer side and the employee side. We watch corporate brands closely, to see how we will use them to extend our own brand.
Finally, since it’s Martin Luther King Day, and since Psychology Today just published a study that says people feel better if they do an act of activism, I have a proposal:
We should each twitter today:
@McDonalds Racism is not okay and neither is hate. Please stop your support of the All-Star Rodeo. http://bit.ly/4AiXT1
UPDATE! Here's a response from McDonald's:
Hi Penelope,
Thank you for bringing this to our attention. This appears to be a local pre-show program in support of a local Ronald McDonald House Charities fundraiser. Rest assured, McDonald's does not tolerate discrimination of any kind. We are currently looking into this matter.
Jessica Thompson
Manager, U.S. Communications
McDonald's USA





I really enjoyed reading this post and what it stood for. I'm not much of a protester of anything, but racism is nothing to be laughed at. I tweeted. I hope someone out there gets your message.
Posted by Margarita on January 18, 2010 at 12:41 am | permalink |
great blog — I lurk often — and I did tweet.
Posted by shelley on January 18, 2010 at 12:44 am | permalink |
Your blog is always a good read.
I am against racism and i have tweeted.
Hope more will do and show McDonalds that it is wrong to support it.
Posted by Marcus Eklund on January 18, 2010 at 12:50 am | permalink |
I always enjoy reading your articles. Like you, I like McDonald's but hate racism. Done with the Re-tweet.
Posted by Ciawy on January 18, 2010 at 12:58 am | permalink |
It's very clear that this person did not rise for the national anthem even before the announcer even referenced Jesus.
Re-read this: "…and the announcer saying everyone should sing the Star Spangled Banner to honor “the flag that protects our troops, and our churches and our great country.”
I looked over at the farmer for churches, and BEFORE I COULD ROLL MY EYES, the announcer said…"
Typical self-important liberal elitist looking down her nose at everyone else.
Posted by ann on January 18, 2010 at 12:47 pm | permalink |
Liberal elitist? What would that say about you, then? Please enlighten us as to what the "Star Spangled Banner" has to do with churches.
Posted by Brian on January 18, 2010 at 4:00 pm | permalink |
I would roll my eyes too, what does the flag have to do with churches?
But then again, I'm from that liberal, elite, left coast.
Posted by Retired Syd on January 18, 2010 at 6:06 pm | permalink |
The mention of "churches" was enough for her. But she didn't tell her kids to stay seated until "Jesus" was also brought into the picture. The family is Jewish, I can well understand why she didn't want to partake in a version of anthem singing that is framed in Christianity. If you have a problem with that, well then, you have a problem.
Posted by Caitlin @ Roaming Tales on January 20, 2010 at 10:26 am | permalink |
Not really convinced that the flag does protect our troops.
I can see a fair bit to quibble with there, even if you love this country and our flag.
Posted by Dree on January 20, 2010 at 2:34 pm | permalink |
Not rising to the national anthem? That is just plain wrong.
Posted by Alfred on January 18, 2010 at 1:00 am | permalink |
I think Penelope, being Jewish, sat because of the "please rise in the name of Jesus" bit.
Posted by me on January 18, 2010 at 3:25 am | permalink |
"Rise in the name of Jesus" is actually quite PC in that it covers 3 major religions…Jesus was a 1) Jewish person who was, to the 2) Christians the Son of God and to the 3) Muslims a prophet. You've got the world's 3 major religions covered!
Posted by Joe on January 18, 2010 at 3:51 pm | permalink |
I would be highly offended to rise in the name of Jesus for the national anthem. I am not Jewish, Christian, or Muslim. But guess what, I am actually an American.
Imagine that, Joe!
Posted by Retired Syd on January 18, 2010 at 6:11 pm | permalink |
"Rise in the name of Jesus" is NOT PC/Muslim/Jewish.
John 14:13 says "And whatsoever ye shall ask in my [Jesus] name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son".
So saying something "in the name" of Jesus is NOT multi-faith.
It seems to me that some of the later comments are right, and that they probably said "In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Now please rise….ect". But BEING A JEW she would have NO REASON to know the difference.
I think the bottom line is that the event was sexist and racist, and she felt excluded religiously as well.
Posted by Rachel on February 23, 2011 at 10:05 pm | permalink |
Alfred – kind of hard for a Jewish person to rise in the name of Jesus, isn't it? And if you can't draw the line at acting on the principles expressed in the first amendment, where do you draw it?
Posted by Eva Lyford on January 18, 2010 at 6:50 am | permalink |
Jesus was a Jew.
Posted by Justin on January 18, 2010 at 1:21 pm | permalink |
The "anthem" is just a song. It is representative of what America is about, but is not, in itself, what America is about. Get it? I wish more people cared about freedom and equality, liberty and justice, than flags and anthems.
Posted by Brian on January 18, 2010 at 9:28 am | permalink |
The Flag and the Anthem are clear symbols of freedom, equality, liberty and justice. When you honor the flag and the anthem you're honoring the founding principles of our country.
Posted by Mike on January 18, 2010 at 10:38 am | permalink |
They are merely symbols, not the embodiment of those ideals. Someone who truly cared about those, would not dream of requiring anyone to perform a ritual in front a flag, or sing a particular song. They would understand that all people have the freedom to choose, of their own free will, to celebrate and support those ideals in ways of their choosing.
As far as Jesus being a Jew, we can hardly be certain that there even was a Jesus Christ as written about in the Bible.
Posted by Brian on January 18, 2010 at 4:07 pm | permalink |
When they wrapped churches and Jesus and religion around the flag, they lost focus on what the flag is, what it represents and what it means to different people.
I would not have stood up either when it's presented that way.
Posted by steveg on January 1, 2011 at 6:43 pm | permalink |
Good for you, Penelope. I tweeted as requested.
To be invited to sing The Star Spangled Banner "in the name of Jesus" is simply blasphemous.
As a Quaker, I never stand for the national anthem, which is simply bad militaristic poetry set to unsingable music. (Nor will I play it when my community band performs it.)
Posted by Dave Trowbridge on January 18, 2010 at 11:21 pm | permalink |
Yep, there are entire sections of the church who read what Jesus actually said and would consider singing the national anthem (especially a militaristic one) in Jesus' name to be a horrible blasphemy. Just like putting "Jesus codes" on rifles meant to kill people.
But Jesus as written in the Bible isn't really the sort that most nations and leaders can endorse.
Posted by Mrs. Micah on January 21, 2010 at 11:57 am | permalink |
Actually, there was no such "raise in the name of Jesus" thing. It was also something taking out of context.
Posted by Lola on January 21, 2010 at 12:03 pm | permalink |
@Alfred, I appreciate you having the guts to dispute Penelope's point and link to your blog. Even if I disagree entirely. Kind of a rare thing around here.
Posted by Dree on January 20, 2010 at 2:36 pm | permalink |
Tweeted, racism has no place in any city of any size.
Posted by Richard Ring on January 18, 2010 at 1:10 am | permalink |
Racism is never okay. It has a vibration that is passed from parent to child. As my father and his can be an alcoholic so can I. If we don't curb racism now it will evolve into a bigger beast. Children can be born pre-programmed to hate. Take notice of the Palestine conflict. Everything is connected and everyone is responsible. With intent and will we can stop this now. A few can make a difference. I tweeted.
Posted by Simon Hay on January 18, 2010 at 1:11 am | permalink |
ummm… clown. racist clown. please stop the racist clown. I guess when we have to try that hard to find an example, we have actually come a long way. Maybe you could tie this into your hatred of Gretchen?
Posted by john on January 18, 2010 at 1:22 am | permalink |
This comment is a fine example of "missing the boat." It is exactly because the racism is demonstrated by a clown, something that kids pay attention to, that makes it more nefarious.
Posted by Brian on January 18, 2010 at 9:32 am | permalink |
Correction. Racist clown as ringleader in a stadium full of people doing a minstrel show in Madison, Wisconsin. Guess what. We are not going backward. We are going forward. Sounds like you are living in a comfortable place where you don't have to contemplate racism. Must be working to your favor. Take your complacency back to your white friends and whatever gated community of the mind it came from.
Posted by Carol G on January 18, 2010 at 10:32 am | permalink |
I love you for this.
Posted by Sheryl on January 18, 2010 at 1:23 am | permalink |
Thank you for posting this. It confirms what we already know about many of the Americans who don't live in the big cities, even though they are literate and have access to all information through the internet. In Europe we never got why they voted for George W. Bush. In polls leading up to the last elections 96% said they would've voted for Obama if they could have.
Unfortunately, racism, fascism, religious suprematism, and feelings of 'Apartheid' are flaring up again in Europe. This time not just coming from white caucasians but rather from all groups and especially immigrants with different religious views.
Religion might be the more serious problem here, religion combined with discrimination of women (all religions, there are still very orthodox christians and jews who tell girls and women they have fewer rights than boys and men and put it in practice in their communities).
Religion intertwined with politics being the most dangerous to democracy.
What the world needs is overall democracy based on perpetual equal rights for people from both sexes.
Posted by Mascha on January 18, 2010 at 2:03 am | permalink |
Oops. I think I was typing while you posted but you said it better than I did anyway. I guess it all comes down to so much more than what's on the surface. But I disagree that there is a "more serious problem." I think all of the problems addressed in this post should make our blood boil just the same (and also ones that weren't included). It's what will make us stronger in fighting these issues.
Posted by Kristina on January 18, 2010 at 2:28 am | permalink |
"It confirms what we already know about many of the Americans who don't live in the big cities, even though they are literate and have access to all information through the internet. In Europe we never got why they voted for George W. Bush. In polls leading up to the last elections 96% said they would've voted for Obama if they could have."
Your comments about European discrimination are pertinent and important. Unfortunately, you lose me immediately with your first statements. What do "we" know about "many of the Americans who don't live in the big cities." Who is "we"? Do you know how many Americans you are talking about? Thank goodness we are "literate" and have "access to all information." Otherwise, you (a collective "you") could just educate us and give us technology and all would be better…except apparently not. I am sure from your vantage point in Europe you don't understand the reasons why some Americans do what we do. This is natural and should be common sense.
Posted by Melissa on January 18, 2010 at 10:04 am | permalink |
Melissa, thank you for your reply. I have lived in different parts of Europe and in North America, and forgot for a while there that in my previous emails, tweets and comments in P's blog I mentioned that I'm originally European ( I feel more American even most of the time :-) )
Then again, a lot of Americans are too, mainly the ones described in Penelope's post. From what I've seen what happens to European immigrants – in the US, Canada, Australia, NZ – is that they cling to old values and social patterns that they were used to and have trouble modernizing them, as if evolving would estrange them too much from their past or roots. Meanwhile, everything in the countries they have left behind, changes. They don't follow those changes. The same goes for North African immigrants in Western Europe by the way. Sometimes this goes on for decades, sometimes centuries.
So yes, I've lived in the US long enough to feel American and to understand why you do what you do. And Ive learned to look at Europeans from a different perspective too.
There are also many different types of Americans and luckily most of them (at least the ones in the right geographical places) wanted the change that Obama when elected could bring. Or at least better than his opponent. Even though he is also part of that difficult and unfair election system that you Americans can't seem to get rid of.
A lot of people say they base their choices on their religious truths/views/beliefs, but who's views are they anyway? And are they really choices or are we not raised to develop our own opnion? Clearly not the young men and women brought up in Wisconsin. Bringing in Ronald MacDonald for propaganda consisting of racism, violence, sexism and religious politicism is in the same category as Hamas using Mickey Mouse to educate young Palestinians, just maybe a little more subtle.
Posted by Mascha on January 18, 2010 at 2:30 pm | permalink |
Hey Penelope –
Thanks for this post. I know this lonely feeling way too well and I'm so thankful for people like you who don't stay quiet. I can also see how something this interesting would be hard not to write about anyway. Today I feel like it's more about ignorance than racism. People who are racist are usually ignorant in so many other aspects. Like the fact that they put religion agendas into the mix and the way the girls were dressed and that they had to share a horse. The Obama jokes were hurtful and they are getting so old. I'm not shocked that nobody said anything, they never do. But maybe we need to call people out on the not so obvious offensive behavior also. And also, maybe people like you, and me, and everyone else who finds this kind of ignorance disgusting and depressing need to be in these places. The people seem stuck in their own little world.
Posted by Kristina on January 18, 2010 at 2:10 am | permalink |
Tweeted. It sounds like much of the rodeo would have been offensive to many people, but the racism should absolutely lose them their corporate sponsorship.
Posted by Jess @OpenlyBalanced on January 18, 2010 at 2:42 am | permalink |
YOur experiences sum up a perfect American mid-west redneck stereotype. One that is not helping America – as a country – make more friends overseas.
As an Aussie, I am glad that we do not have many of the things you mention. The national anthem is not played everywhere as a matter of course.
The flag is not everywhere.
We do not have a 'pledge' that children are taught to recite, we do not state allegiance to the flag or that our nation is one 'under God'.
The separation of state and church is much more strictly enforced.
And there is no gun debate because there is no right to bear arms. Owning a gun is only for the smallest minority who qualify under a strict set of rules. I don't think people can carry a concealed weapon for any reason.
Of course, it's not wise to generalise.
And racism is everywhere – certainly in Australia as much as anywhere.
Congratulations for standing up (or sitting down) as you did. A saying I try to live by in moments such as these is – "all is takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" (or something along those lines).
I believe it's worth a little social discomfort to speak up when something as appalling as racism is happening right before your eyes – and I try to act whenever I can.
So well done. And a great call to action. And don't forget to always ask – is there something more I can do?
Posted by Cathy on January 18, 2010 at 2:52 am | permalink |
I'm another Australian, and I'm completely with you, Cathy. If I'd been at the rodeo I'd have been horrified, and I think the protest to McDonald's is a good call. I think that writing to them and to the organisers of the rodeo and explaining the circumstances for the protest would also be appropriate.
I'm concerned about the kind of nationalism that says it's not ok to choose not to stand for a national anthem for whatever reason (and I wouldn't have stood under those circumstances even though I'm a Christian). I'm not a huge fan of rodeos, but to my mind it's appalling that such an event was politicised in the way Penelope describes. We've seen what the kind of rampant nationalism that doesn't allow for dissent does – all too evident in Nazi Germany.
Posted by Quatrefoil on January 18, 2010 at 7:09 am | permalink |
If you don't like America why don't you move? People undervalue how awesome this country is. I don't care if you are Jewish – you should stand for the anthem. It's called respect. If America wasn't so awesome everyone in Europe would be speaking German and Penelope wouldn't be Jewish.
Posted by Anthony on January 18, 2010 at 10:41 am | permalink |
@Anthony: You clearly missed that Cathy and Quatrefoil are both Australian…as well as missing the point that extreme nationalism was one CAUSE of WWII and not the solution.
Posted by Becka on January 18, 2010 at 3:05 pm | permalink |
Nice work, Anthony. Playing the whole 'if you don't think America is perfect, then get the hell on' card. That is a failure on so many levels that I don't know where to begin.
Posted by Brian on January 18, 2010 at 4:11 pm | permalink |
Anthony, just because I disagree with my brother doesn't mean I want to disown him.
Also, America has done and continues to do some heinous things. It's important to recognize that. We denied many Jews the right to immigrate prior to and during World War II, including Anne Frank and her family. In that sense, I think it's fair to say we contributed to the Holocaust. Yes, we are a great country, but tawdry displays of nationalism that exclude its own citizens because of their religious beliefs diminish it.
Posted by econopete on January 18, 2010 at 9:49 pm | permalink |
Agree with Cathy and Quatrefoil here. The Australia I grew up in was not overtly nationalistic – we had a quite pride in who we were but it was never jingoism. Sadly I feel that's been changing since the Sydney Olympics in 2000. I see young, mostly white Australians draping themselves in the flag and at the same time (possibly coincidentally, possibly not) a rise in racial violence, and it makes me worry.
Posted by Caitlin @ Roaming Tales on January 20, 2010 at 10:34 am | permalink |
@Anthony You can't be serious! Penelope is American born and bred. She is a citizen and it is her constitutional right AND DUTY to stand up against injustice and try to make her country better. If you don't like her expressing her democratic rights and freedoms, perhaps YOU should move? (Though where, I don't know – other countries do have immigration policies too, you know).
@Becka Despite Anthony's comment nesting below Cathy and Quatrefoil, I'm pretty sure it was addressed to Penelope (because of the Jewish reference).
Posted by Caitlin @ Roaming Tales on January 20, 2010 at 10:39 am | permalink |
I am very upset by your story. I am sorry this happened to you and thank you for writing about this.
I changed the tweet to:
@McDonalds McDonald's is sponsoring a touring racist performance called All-Star Rodeo. Try "All Star _Racist_ Rodeo". http://bit.ly/4AiXT1
My grown son has a white mom, a black dad. I think I learned how to tune out a lot. Survival. The racism stories my son has… I think I need a T-shirt that reads, "You have mistaken me for a white person".
You were in a situation where a racist got the stage and dared you all to defy him – to get out of the complacent white pack and confront the ringleader. I would have felt much better if the rodeo crowd had gotten pissed off. We can not be sheep. What's the next challenge? Wear your white pride arm bands sponsored by name-that-corporation and get a free soda?
Posted by Carol G on January 18, 2010 at 3:20 am | permalink |
While bigoted, this incident is not racist – I suggest you understand the definition.
Posted by me on January 18, 2010 at 3:38 am | permalink |
What's the definition of pedantic?
Posted by Cathy on January 18, 2010 at 4:31 am | permalink |
You sound like an idiot trying to come off as academic. Did you miss your Mensa meeting? Ughhh.
Posted by Carol G on January 18, 2010 at 9:12 am | permalink |
It makes me sad too.
Posted by melanie gao on January 18, 2010 at 4:12 am | permalink |
oh man. if i had been there, i would have thrown a real fit – shout hiss boo talk to management and anything thing else i could come up with.
wish i had been. but i live in france now for the very reasons you get fed up w Madison (france far from perfect when it comes to racism, but thats another story). i grew up in dallas. married a black guy. you know the story.
i see that humans are flawed, and that there are often as many frustrations living in a "progressive" place as a reactionary one. and ive come to think that its about taking a stand and making your point (intelligently, with math that adds up) wherever you need to, like you did with this post.
still, i too dream of a place where critical thinkers outnumber the clowns. not sure it exists, but if i find it, will let you know.
Posted by Tracey on January 18, 2010 at 4:17 am | permalink |
Being an Asian who never stepped out of the "comfort zone" – NY, LA, so on – your findings makes me stunned. When it comes to "tradition" – even if it has only several decade's history – we all behave irrationally in the eyes of foreigners. My home country has the habit of whale hunting, and most people there still react emotionally when dissed by other countries. (It is not much about loving eating them – it is only an exotic cuisine, even in Japan – but more about getting upset by flatly being denied of one's own culture by outsiders.) About this McDonald incident, I would like to know WHY…
Posted by Isao on January 18, 2010 at 4:38 am | permalink |
Why boo at a rodeo when you can eviscerate them online to a much much wider audience? Great piece….
Posted by elemjay on January 18, 2010 at 5:35 am | permalink |
Smart. You and the kids will have McDonald's coupons that last 'til you're 92. And that rodeo will be sorry they ever met up w/ the likes of you.
Posted by Maureen Sharib on January 18, 2010 at 5:51 am | permalink |
In the late 80's when I went to school at Madison, students built mock shanties on the Capitol grounds in solidarity with the South African people and as protest against the SA government's Apartheid policies.
In 2010, your experience sounds creepily similar to the disturbingly appalling (Texas?) rodeo scenes in "Borat."
I'm speechless ….
Posted by neko on January 18, 2010 at 5:59 am | permalink |
I tweeted not just because of the horrible Barack Obama skit, but also because of the sanctioned degradation of women and religious diversity. And to do so under the guise of national pride? with corporate sponsors? Bleh. Thanks for saying out loud that something is not right. (If the Farmer and your boys step away from the fries for a moment, they might realize how proud of you they should be – and not just for scoring some free McD's food)
Posted by Kate on January 18, 2010 at 6:21 am | permalink |
"But I can’t believe that not a single person in that stadium yelled out anything after a racist joke."
Well, Penelope, did you yell out and object to the racist joke? Wouldn't that have been a good teaching moment for your children? Maybe everyone else in the audience was as lonely and uncomfortable as you. Maybe they were afraid to speak up… you know, because no one else was speaking up.
Posted by we're all responsible on January 18, 2010 at 6:30 am | permalink |
thank you for posting this. i think it takes someone who is paying attention to hear the context in many of our "cultural" events. maybe they're paying attention because they don't "fit in" or "get it," but maybe they're paying attention because someone has to remind us all of the absolute richness we find in diversity. living in the bible belt and hearing the subtextual racism, sexism, and religious prejudice built in and commonly accepted is difficult, — but it also provides the opportunity to remind others that even looking the same does not mean feeling or thinking the same.
Posted by sarah on January 18, 2010 at 7:24 am | permalink |
"But I kind of thought the place would be full of people like me and the farmer." Whoa, that was dumb. Rodeos and monster truck rallies are the capitol of redneck nation. The disturbing thing is that the farmer thought it was a good idea.
Posted by Brad on January 18, 2010 at 7:30 am | permalink |
Hey Penelope,
I get your point here. I understand your issues with this rodeo. But sometimes we have to overlook pieces of other cultures that we don't like or understand just to experience those other worlds. As long as you've explained to your kids what bothers you about this event, it might be beneficial (and fun) for them to learn what other people do on the weekend, the difference between a cow and a steer (which this Yankee didn't know until I went to a rodeo — but then, you live on a farm), and that there are other sports in this country besides baseball and football. It's almost like going to a foreign country without ever leaving your city! Except a lot of other countries don't enjoy the diversity of cultures that we have here. So try thinking of it as a learning experience, an observation of your fellow Americans. Take the parts you like, and leave the rest.
Posted by Alexis Grant on January 18, 2010 at 7:34 am | permalink |
"But sometimes we have to overlook pieces of other cultures that we don't like or understand just to experience those other worlds."
Are you really saying people should overlook racism if they don't like it? Instead of trying to take action to do something about it? What an inane comment.
Posted by Nisha on January 18, 2010 at 10:38 am | permalink |
"Please rise in the name of Jesus & sing the Star Spangled Banner."
(The more I re-read this post, the more appalling it gets.)
Wow.
Posted by neko on January 18, 2010 at 7:39 am | permalink |
Agree with commenter "Me" above: I don't see the racism in the Obama skit you described. Just check out the definition of racist, or racism.
FWIW, I'm Latina, with black ancestors.
Posted by Melissa on January 18, 2010 at 7:54 am | permalink |
If you are in fact Latina with black ancestors and you wrote this, I have to say, you sound disturbed.
Posted by Carol G on January 18, 2010 at 9:10 am | permalink |
Uh? Disturbed?
I guess if I were your definition of "White", or Asian, or whatever, my comment would have made me…what? A racist? :-)
Posted by Melissa on January 18, 2010 at 1:37 pm | permalink |
Lonely is a great word to describe what I would have felt too. Lonely in the way I think about this. Lonely in noticing that no one stood up in protest. If we ourselves don't stand against injustice, no matter how great or small, who will?
http://www.happinessinthisworld.com/2009/04/12/become-a-force-for-good/
Posted by Alex @ Happiness in this World on January 18, 2010 at 7:55 am | permalink |
Long time lurker…first time commenter ;)
Last rodeo for the farmer I think. One of your best posts ever. Disturbing but not surprising; although I am surprised that this happened in Madison. Madison is a great, very progressive city. Hope this goes national as many of your posts do.
Unfortunately though, this behavior is not surprising. Yesterday I got an email forwarded on to me by my sister that had a picture of the Obama's pledging allegiance with their left hands over their RIGHT breast and the requisite comments that they don't know their left from right etc. Obviously the photo was doctored, but no one either cared or took the time to find that out before forwarding it on to 15 other people.
I wasn't going to respond back, but your post lead me to respond. We each have to stand up and say this behavior is not acceptable. Sorry for the long comment!
Posted by Dave on January 18, 2010 at 8:49 am | permalink |
One other thing…
Some comments have referred to the big city vs little city mindset. Madison is not a little city and is progressive. Believe me, if this is happening in Madison, it is worse in other cities – large and small. If this rodeo were in LA, there is no doubt in my mind the activity would be the same because it represents the mindset of the attendees (most anyway).
Posted by Dave on January 18, 2010 at 8:55 am | permalink |
First, as a native Madisonian, I can tell you that Madison scarcely lives up to its radical reputation. Racism simmers and often boils. If you're not seeing it, you're trying not to. I'm guessing, though, there were more people in the audience sitting in shocked, disgusted silence, just like you.
Second, call it my own classism, but I'd guess most people attending a rodeo would be of the rural persuasion, and if urban, likely fans of the WWE and monster truck rallies. Step out of Madison even a little, and Wisconsin is a pretty conservative (i.e., white Republican Christian) place.
OK, so I'm an elitist snob, just as the the radio announcer was a racist Bible-thumper.
Do you think McDonald's knows what this announcer is saying at the rodeo? I doubt it. McDonald's might have no interest in sanctioning a tent show like that one. Let them know.
Posted by Amy on January 18, 2010 at 8:57 am | permalink |
I'm still trying to figure out how one would sing the national anthem in Jesus' name… and I'm a Christian.
If it makes you feel any better about Madison, the stadium was probably not filled with an accurate cross-section of the city as much as it was filled with people from outside the city.
And I think there are quite a few corporations that need to hear your message that my generation will chose not only their careers, but also where they spend their money based on how much a company cares about people and the environment.
Posted by J McK on January 18, 2010 at 9:04 am | permalink |
Does anyone know the definition of "minstrel show"?
Thanks for this post. I think part of the issue of racism in this country is that people get caught up in the minutiae of definitions and other qualifications. We too often forget the raw emotional power such acts have over people. No matter if it is racism or bigotry or whatever. I think this post taps into that emotional aspect.
Posted by Victoria on January 18, 2010 at 9:18 am | permalink |
I also live in Madison and I am as surprised as you are when this apparently left-leaning city shows its racist, classist tendencies. And it's hugely disappointing because I want so much for Madison to be an example for the rest of the country.
Of course, my own biased opinion is that the people who attend a rodeo-type gathering (in general) are conservatives who live outside of Madison. That does not mean that it's OK for them to accept a racist attitude; it only means that Madisonians likely do not subscribe to that same attitude.
Posted by Ariella on January 18, 2010 at 9:19 am | permalink |
You know, the thing is: to the people who were there besides you, it probably WAS a Family Values show. They said Jesus, they had "correct" politics; that is the "Real America" that Fox News talks about. Distressing, isn't it?
Posted by mordicai on January 18, 2010 at 9:24 am | permalink |
Done!
Posted by Marie on January 18, 2010 at 9:46 am | permalink |
When I moved to NYC from Georgia 9 years ago, I asked why we didn't have Martin Luther King Day off. I had never gone to school or work on that day before. My co-workers told me "You guys just feel bad down there for being racist and are trying to make it up to them." and would tell a string of racist jokes. This was in midtown Manhattan, and many of my then co-workers grew up in the city.
That made me feel very lonely. When I pointed out that there were many people still living who were active in the Civil Rights movement, they just rolled their eyes.
So I went to work. And I felt sad. And I told my bosses I felt it was inappropriate to support that kind of behavior. And they said nothing.
You said no one said a word during the racist jokes. Why didn't you boo or hiss? You were one of them sitting there and doing nothing.
Posted by Susan on January 18, 2010 at 9:55 am | permalink |
Schools in NYC have a day (or even 2 or 3) off for MLK day. Not everybody can take a day off from work though. Depends on the line of work (police, hospital, fire brigade?). Besides, there are many more holidays and memorial days. We can't possibly all have a day off. You could take a personal day if it means that much to you not to be working on this day.
Posted by Mascha on January 18, 2010 at 3:37 pm | permalink |
I moved to Dallas from NYC a couple of years ago and before moving here I would have been offended by many of the events that you experienced at the rodeo. But after almost 4 years of living in the south, I've realized that someone can be a staunch conservative without being racist. Obama is a public figure despised by most conservatives and they have the right to vent their frustration. Lord knows the liberals did plenty of that during W's 8 years.
Posted by Rose Jeudi on January 18, 2010 at 10:02 am | permalink |
@Rosie Expressing one's frustration with Obama is fine. Doing so by dressing him up as a rastafarian is racist.
Posted by Caitlin @ Roaming Tales on January 20, 2010 at 10:44 am | permalink |
I was at a rodeo where they stood for the confederate flag, I was shocked and remained seated…..then left.
Posted by Wisconsin girl on January 18, 2010 at 10:07 am | permalink |
I have a question: don't people hate America if they salute the Confederate flag?
Posted by econopete on January 18, 2010 at 10:04 pm | permalink |
So what part of this demonstrated racism? Seriously, because the individual did a skit about President Obama? (someone I I believe in by the way)
Seriously? and what is more interesting, is how come nooone called this out.. is this because we are all trying to be cool in observing MLK Day?
Look, freedom of speech is alive and well in America.. Thank God, because it allows for individuals like Penelope, to be able to write this kinda stuff, and get away with it..
So curious, it is okay to insinuate that people are rednecks, women haters, and blame McDonalds and a whole town on the action of one individual who took the liberty of expressing his freedom of choice.. Puhleeze
And as someone mentioned earlier, where do you draw the line penelope? it is okay to slam christians, and claim your freedom of speech, but ..
FYI – I am a biracial female.. Not white, Not black, not Hispanic.. Biracial — but in this fine country am deemed as minority.. because of my small percent of minority, and my appearance – by the Government.. Don't you think that should be something better worth discussing.. how this wonderful country is pretty much the only country in the world that is hung up on titles of race? maybe if THEY got rid of that.. the oh, and it was a black man who stole or raped that woman.. if we got rid of subjective labels, maybe them society may come more accepting..
Another 5 Mins of my life wasted
Posted by KarenM on January 18, 2010 at 10:19 am | permalink |
Seriously? Time wasted on YOUR freedom of speech? Your choice to comment. Seriously? The 'only wonderful country that is hung up on titles of race'?
Posted by Mascha on January 19, 2010 at 12:07 am | permalink |
This is a thought-provoking post. I am glad to see that you have called attention to what happened and encouraged your followers to tweet. I hope that McD's responds responsibly.
Regarding the comments that have been posted, it is discouraging to hear all of the:
"It's not really Madison, folks…really! It's those from the outskirts, we swear!" comments. Selling the "country folk" down the river while smiling and ignoring the fact that Ms. Trunk did nothing. Very transparent and I'm afraid not many will buy it.
As well as the:
"Rednecks attend these events. Rednecks are lesser people" comments. All of these comments ignore the fact that Ms. Trunk (who I assume you do not think is a redneck) was there.
How is stereotyping (based on income/class, religion, and social activities) and using the word "redneck" any better than the clown incident described by Ms. Trunk?
Posted by Melissa on January 18, 2010 at 10:22 am | permalink |
Done.
I would have felt the same way you did. Though I might have left after the Jesus reference. Because there are so few of them done these days, hand-written letters get a lot more attention than they did in the pre-email days. I say you write a letter, both to the rodeo and to McD's.
Posted by Green on January 18, 2010 at 10:35 am | permalink |
I don't even want to remember this kind of thing, but I feel compelled when I read these oh-it's-just-rednecks comments. I was at a well-appointed suburban party when I heard a 6-figure-earning economist for a Fortune 500 company here in Madison call people on Park St "coons".
Sorry. Nothing is easy. It's going to take a lot of continued tweets and confrontations. Stand up against racism.
Posted by Carol G on January 18, 2010 at 10:38 am | permalink |
I live in the Midwest, not Wisconsin, but there are rodeos here. I actually really enjoy going to bull-riding. They aren't all like the one you were at. I've never heard of one pushing religion like that, and I've never heard the announcer or rodeo clown tell Obama jokes. I think that's horrible!
At the last bull ride I went to, there was a girl competing, and I believe she placed. Far from the experience you had.
I'm glad you're raising awareness of this, just pointing out, it was THAT rodeo that was horrible, not ALL rodeos.
Posted by Gretchen on January 18, 2010 at 10:46 am | permalink |
How does this demonstrate racism? It may not demonstrate racism by definition, but it does demonstrate what people commonly refer to as racism, which as pointed out, may be more accurately called bigotry. But I think we all know what we mean, so let's not be pedantic.
A (white) rodeo clown throwing on a Rastafarian costume in order to imitate the president is definitely making a joke of race and racial stereotypes. In case you haven't noticed, our president has the opposite of dreadlocks; and is protestant Christian, not Rastafarian. So, the Rastafarian get-up is just a modern variation on blackface, just as insulting, just as despicable.
And for those that say you should stand for the anthem because it's a symbol of freedom: you're doing it wrong. Feeling societal pressure, an assumed obligation, to salute your nation's flag and anthem is the opposite of freedom. Refusing to the honor freedom's symbol is in fact honoring freedom itself. Why worship the symbol when you can worship what it represents directly? ;-)
Posted by Troy Gilbert on January 18, 2010 at 11:06 am | permalink |
Penelope, your feelings on racism and equality do not stem from your own established beliefs. Those feelings were placed in you by the same God that you reject.
Posted by C.J. on January 18, 2010 at 11:07 am | permalink |
They were placed there by God? There is far more evidence against that than there is for it.
Posted by Brian on January 18, 2010 at 4:15 pm | permalink |
Thanks, everyone, for all the enthusiasm on twitter!
Also, maybe someone could talk here about racism. What that means. I think there is a lot I could learn about what is racist, what is racism, and what is just a bad joke. I see there's a difference. I'm not sure where it is.
Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on January 18, 2010 at 11:16 am | permalink |
This is racist because it equates our president to rastafarians based on the color of his skin rather than his actual tie to the rasta culture. It is funny to mock W. about being a cowboy, because it's actually a part of who he is. It would not be funny for black culture to mock Clinton for being a cowboy because that would be assuming that all white people are the same. It would have been funny and not racist to mock Obama by not wearing a shirt and being cut and slightly in love with himself because that is who he is as a person. It is not funny to mock him as a rastafarian, because those are attributes that are being attributed to him based on his race rather than who is actually is.
Posted by M on January 18, 2010 at 12:10 pm | permalink |
This is a nice, clear explanation. Thanks.
-Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on January 18, 2010 at 12:11 pm | permalink |
Yes, this. What M said.
Posted by Caitlin @ Roaming Tales on January 20, 2010 at 10:46 am | permalink |
There's a really good racism 101 breakdown on John Scalzi's blog, writtern and moderated by Mary Anne Mohanraj. The discussion arose in the SF community, but it talks broadly about what racism is and isn't, with lots of discussion, argument, questions. I actually think people who enjoy this blog will probably dig Scalzi, too. Also, pretty much anything Ta-Nehisi Coates at the The Atlantic writes about race in the US.
http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/03/12/mary-ann-mohanraj-gets-you-up-to-speed-part-i/
Posted by Jess on January 18, 2010 at 1:10 pm | permalink |
putting on a rasta wig demonstrates racism? really? So all individuals putting on these type of costumes at Halloween are Racists as well? really?
Was it the Comments that the individual said? Did they Actually point fingers at a particular Race? Did they Degrade a particular race
God help us when we in America decide that contrary expressions of speech should be considered racist, or discriminatory..
Personally this article to me is more offensive, as it appears to present and paint a disillusioned view of small town America, with a broad paint brush, in such a way that would heighten her career.
As a person of color, this does indeed irritate the heck out of me, and yes, it even offends me. Let's not play down what REALLY is discrimination in America – the stuff that hurts people in REALITY
Like the Huge Disproportionate number of minorities who are NOT getting jobs based upon the color of their skin
Or the fact that Women shall not be seeing equal wage in our lifetime, nor the lifetime of our grand kids, based upon the current numbers — this by the way was something that Ms Trunk even denies exists.. discrimination against women in the workplace..
Please Get real.. THIS isn't discrimination.. This is someone trying to make chocolate out of cafe au lait.
Posted by KarenM on January 18, 2010 at 11:40 am | permalink |
I agree that this is racism and it is scary. However, what can you expect from people in a small farming community? They have never gotten behind the civil rights era and have brains that are stuck in the 1940s. FYI: I have relatives who are farmers and they send me Christmas cards saying that they talk to Jesus and ask for his blessings, blah, blah, blah. But they are also the type of people who the media can so easily brain wash. (They feel so patriotic when their leaders lie and tell them B.S. such as Iraq was behind 9/11.)
Posted by LTF on January 18, 2010 at 11:48 am | permalink |
So racism is bad, but mocking someone for living in a "small farming community" and being religious is okay?
This is exactly the kind of blindly self-righteous attitude that's -really- hindering our progress as a society.
Posted by Jeffrey on January 18, 2010 at 1:01 pm | permalink |
I agree, it is not okay. But I also think that it is okay to talk about it in a setting like this so we can be corrected. Keeping these ideas and stereotypes inside doesn't do us any good either. We should be talking instead of being fearful to say something wrong. But with that said, we should also be open to knowledge and that some of the beliefs we have learned are not always right. I am learning from this.
Posted by Kristina on January 18, 2010 at 2:36 pm | permalink |
Get a life you radical lunatic. People from farming communities are ignorant and the government was behind 9/11 right? How I would love to hear your theories on the JFK assassination and moon landing…
Posted by SL on January 20, 2010 at 10:18 pm | permalink |
Get a life lady. Not only are your views unfounded and biased, but you sound like a rambling lunatic. Get a hobby…
Posted by SL on January 20, 2010 at 10:23 pm | permalink |
That doesn't sound like any rodeo they'd have in the west. I guess they do things differently in Wisconsin.
I still don't understand why you reacted so violently to the announcer's only joke you quoted. That was Henny Youngman material!
In a real rodeo, the main event for women is barrel racing, although women also compete in team roping. In the school-age events, girls also do the catch-and-release version of calf roping.
The intermission entertainment is different. It often includes trick riders (of either sex) or trick ropers. But I have never seen trick riders dressed like strippers (which is what the Dallas Cowgirls look like.) Is that how they dressed in Wisconsin? In the west they normally dress in jeans, fancy shirts, hats, and $500 boots — same as the male riders, only prettier.
The clowns in a real rodeo are bullfighters; their job is to distract the bulls after riders get bucked off. (A bucking bronco understands it's a competition; a bull is too stupid to understand anything but that there's a carnivore on his back. Bulls try to kill their riders.)
Anyway, I have never seen a rodeo clown try to do stand-up jokes. (They do slapstick a lot between events, though.)
I agree that doing the dreadlock thing about Obama is just plain stupid. Race humor has no place in any event. (Tell
that to Jackie Mason or Chris Rock, though.)
Posted by Jim C. on January 18, 2010 at 11:49 am | permalink |
It is unfortunate that McDonald's sponsored this event. I'm not sure if they actually new the content of the show or were simply getting there name in front of yet another audience.
The President and COO of McDonald's is black, http://www.aboutmcdonalds.com/mcd/our_company/bios.html, one would think they would do a better job of weeding out the racism.
Posted by Ms. Freeman on January 18, 2010 at 11:57 am | permalink |
I re-tweeted because I hate racism too, & am aware that it is alive & being taught to today's children.
And then I got some backtalk from a black professional saying that she didn't see anything racist about the article. Where she lives is a pretty white community so I'm a little surprised she felt that way. Then she went on a rant about why more white men are hired than black men. Chill out!
Great article, Penelope!
Posted by J.D. on January 18, 2010 at 11:59 am | permalink |
1 – JD, well, I am not black, but biracial.. proud of ALL my heritage which includes Black, White and Hispanic..
2 – your calling me Black, to me is in itself discriminatory in its own.. Why would you consider me black? and not white? or Hispanic?
3- Then you also mention the "pretty white community" that I live in — really, do you know where I live? did you know it was and is an extremely Diverse city? In Southern California? but funny you used the words PRETTY when associated with White.. Not funny Ha Ha, but more funny like ARE you %^^%%*#$% kidding?
4- So you are hating racism, and consider someone putting a wig on their head racist.. (do you freak out at halloween as well) – but when Minorities are being discriminated against, that it a CHill out factor..
Wow, this is the same type of disingenuous B.S that repesents this article, and the reason it was written..
Posted by KarenM on January 18, 2010 at 12:40 pm | permalink |
I went to my first and last rodeo two years ago in Prescott, AZ. After rising and saluting to a John Wayne and Ronald Reagan film clip, singing the National Anthem and pledging allegiance. We were treated to a baby monkey dressed like a cowboy while strapped to a dog. Needless to say my husband, child and I were incredulous..
We stood up and left.
I shall tweet today.
Posted by Marilynn on January 18, 2010 at 12:10 pm | permalink |
Two things.
"I asked the farmer if rodeos are bad for the animals.
He said, “City people probably think so. But most farmers don’t.”"
This kind of makes me sick. People who run puppy mills often say the same thing.
"When you honor the flag and the anthem you're honoring the founding principles of our country."
Our country no longer honors its own founding principles.
Posted by Pirate Jo on January 18, 2010 at 12:23 pm | permalink |
"'I asked the farmer if rodeos are bad for the animals.
He said, 'City people probably think so. But most farmers don’t.'"
This kind of makes me sick. People who run puppy mills often say the same thing."
Or perhaps city people are simply self-righteously out of touch? Perhaps there's a legitimate reason most farmers don't find rodeos inhumane, and that it's people sitting hundreds of miles away that just like to preach?
You know what makes me sick? People subscribing to movements without a real understanding of the issues at stake and preaching ignorance because it's safe and popular.
Posted by Jeffrey on January 18, 2010 at 1:07 pm | permalink |
Why would farmers who raise livestock, or have raised livestock, not believe it harms animals? Because they have already decided that these animals are not capable of feeling pain, or loss. That they live only to serve the demands of humans, and they need not consider anything that might be in conflict with that fundamental belief.
It has nothing to do with self-righteousness. In fact, it is more self-righteous to think that animals are here for humans to ride, tie up, chop up, and eat, than for someone to argue against such practices.
Posted by Brian on January 18, 2010 at 4:20 pm | permalink |
In defense of the farmer's comment: He may have been thinking as I am right now. City people often do not understand animal husbandry. They often accuse farmers of cruelty, when, in fact, the farmer is caring for his livestock in the best, healthiest way. His livestock, after all, is his livelihood.
For example, I raise a flock of wool sheep. This means they're bred specifically for heavy coats of wool, which I'll shear them of in spring. I've had people accuse me of neglecting my sheep because I keep them outside in winter. Here's the thing: I leave a door open to the barn. The sheep choose to stay outside because this is their natural environment. If I were to enclose them in a draft-free barn, they would sweat from all that wool and get pneumonia from excess humidity .
Another example: If there's fresh snow I don't water my sheep. I could put water out every day, but sheep will eat snow first and the water just sits there and freezes.
I'm not saying I agree with rodeos. I'm only speculating what the farmer may have been referring to with his comment.
Posted by a farmer on January 18, 2010 at 1:18 pm | permalink |
Right on!
Posted by Dave on January 18, 2010 at 2:11 pm | permalink |
In fact I am from Iowa, with farmers in my family. Not exactly a city person, and no not a sissy about sheep eating snow or standing outside. It's true, they will wander into the barn if they get cold.
But Jeffrey's knee-jerk defensiveness is interesting. It reminds me of the comment someone else made, about the Japanese reacting defensively when people criticize whale-hunting. Maybe there is a perfectly good reason for an outsider to be shocked when they see someone inflict pain on an animal. If it's something you see all the time, maybe you get used to it and don't think about it – but that's nothing to be proud of.
Posted by Pirate Jo on January 18, 2010 at 4:13 pm | permalink |
What you are describing with the sheep doesn't sound cruel but many common farming practices are cruel and are not actually necessary in the name of good animal husbandry, only if you want to grow specific breeds at the fastest possible rate in the smallest amount of space. For example, crating a farrowing sow. CAFO [concentrated animal feeding operation ie. factory farm] piggery farmers will tell you this is necessary to stop the sow from throwing or squashing or eating her young. Alternative pork producers will tell you this is crap and they have none of these problems because they select the right breeds, the right sows for the job, and give them a natural environment where they can express normal behaviours (like being able to turn around or build a nest). CAFO farmers seem to think their way is the only way and anyone who disagrees with what they do is ignorant and uneducated. That's simply not the case. I wonder what sort of pig farmer Penelope's fiance is?
Posted by Caitlin @ Roaming Tales on January 20, 2010 at 10:54 am | permalink |
Some 'experts' say that what qualifies as inappropriate behavior or cheating on your spouse is doing something that you wouldn't be doing if your spouse was present.
A parallel can be drawn from this. If you are black, and one of your white friends (amongst a group of other white friends) pulled out a Rasta wig, put it on, & hinted that they were mimic-ing you…how would that make you feel? If that makes you uncomfortable, that is what matters.
Perhaps racist isn't the exact term, but the point of the article is that bigotry, racism, and stereotypes abound in this country and are being taught to our children (tomorrow's adults).
Posted by Jenn on January 18, 2010 at 12:26 pm | permalink |
Are you *positive* that McDonald's is actually sponsoring the rodeo?
I see the McDonald's clown you are talking about prominently displayed on the front of the YouTube video embedded on the rodeo's front page, and I read about your ticket stub saying McDonald's…but when I go to the sponsor page of the website, it doesn't say a thing about McDonald's. A lot of big brands are there like Dodge, Jack Daniels and Wrangler, but no McDonald's. I do see a phone number for the All-Star Rodeo, it is 563-652-3326. The number for McDonald's corporate is 1-800-244-6227. I think it is worth a call to both of them to clarify if McDonald's is indeed a sponsor, and if so, to what extent. Also, why are you so fixated on McDonald's for this? Is it because of the McDonald's clown? I would suggest contacting Dodge, et al. I'm guessing they are the true money behind the rodeo and would likely appreciate hearing from you.
I'm all for activism, and if McDonald's is sponsoring something that is hateful and offensive then I think you are absolutely right to bring it to their attention as chances are they don't know what is going on. I'm also all for diligence and process, and I think a call to both McDonald's and the All-Star Rodeo *before* stirring the pot online very visibly is mandatory, otherwise you are doing nothing more than creating an online mob that doesn't necessarily have all of the facts.
I hope you do get in touch with McDonald's, and if you do, publish their response here on your blog. After all, I am assuming the point of activism is to create positive change, not just angry online mobs.
Oh, and before anybody replies with "sounds like this guys works for McD's or the rodeo"…I never even heard of the rodeo before this post, and I haven't eaten at McDonald's for years, nor will I for years to come. I'm a fan of neither, but I also don't like to see people or corporations hung out to dry without at least a little investigation.
UPDATE: Before posting my comment I took my own advice and called the rodeo directly. They tell me that McDonald's is NOT a corporate sponsor. In fact, the rodeo was raising money for the McDonald's charity, the Ronald McDonald house. I'm not sure how this plays into your effort to lambast McDonald's on Twitter, but you may want to fact check a bit next time.
Posted by @mattsingley on January 18, 2010 at 12:31 pm | permalink |
In response to your update, I'd say that McDonald's should be equally concerned about this event using its face/name/charity as it would be if it were sponsoring the event itself.
Posted by Anna on January 18, 2010 at 12:50 pm | permalink |
Perhaps so, but honestly I'm a bit skeptical about any of the details that were reported about this event at this point.
Posted by @mattsingley on January 18, 2010 at 12:55 pm | permalink |
I don't think it matters if McDonald's is actually paying money. Ronald McDonald is a key piece of the show– he is there much more than I'm telling, (see the link I included) which is an implicit endorsement.
The presence of Ronald McDonald is specifically making the show kid-oriented. And I think that whether or not this is racist content, it's not appropriate for kids. And McDonald's is very careful to not put Ronald on kid-unfriendly stuff. They don't even put Ronald McDonald's image on a hamburger — only on the milk.
-Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on January 18, 2010 at 1:03 pm | permalink |
When I called the rodeo they specifically told me that McDonald's was not paying money. In fact, they said they are paying McDonald's money by supporting their charity.
It does matter because you are publicly calling out McDonald's for something they aren't doing. Are you saying that facts don't matter? What I am suggesting is that before you call together a mob you check your facts. I think you should have called both McDonald's and the rodeo before tying either to racism. That's a pretty serious accusation, and timed particularly to a very important day.
Posted by @mattsingley on January 18, 2010 at 1:10 pm | permalink |
This string has turned into an interesting branding discussion.
Posted by Maureen Sharib on January 20, 2010 at 7:15 am | permalink |
@mattsingley All this means is that I'll edit the tweet before I send it out. I agree that McDonald's should still be concerned about its brand and trademarks being used in this way.
Posted by Caitlin @ Roaming Tales on January 20, 2010 at 10:56 am | permalink |
Penelope,
You just don't get it, do you? If McDonald's brand is misused without their knowledge, it's not their fault, and you are wrong to publicly accuse them of racism. That's the legal definition of libel, and they should sue you for it. Let me put it this way: If somebody made racist comments while impersonating you without your knowledge, would you want to take the blame for it?
Posted by Mike on January 20, 2010 at 8:16 pm | permalink |
I grew up going to rodeos, most notably the Snake River Stampede in Idaho.
I have cousins who are riders and one who was a bull rider.
I think I know the culture pretty well.
I would have also taken offense at the 'clown-as-obama' skit as well, and would have cringed at the 'stand in the name of jesus' for the star spangled banner.
I would have stood but that's because I am a Christian, but the whole thing would have made me embarrassed about 1) US Western culture and 2) being a Christian.
Sounds like a pretty amateur rodeo. The more professional ones are actually alot better…..fwiw
Posted by finance girl on January 18, 2010 at 1:00 pm | permalink |
Sounds like a real pisser of a day. I'm sorry you went through that. But as I was reading your post, before you even got to the name of Jesus and the Star-Spangled Banner and the racist rodeo clown, I was thinking, "What in the world is she doing going to a rodeo? What makes her think she's going have fun at this thing?" Lo and behold, you didn't have fun at all — and for a lot of different reasons, not just one or two. Seriously, what were you thinking? Although, in light of your previous post about how you'd rather have an interesting life than a happy one, I guess you're succeeding.
I know you've done a lot of research into positive psychology, but a search of your blog revealed no reference to the work of psychologist Barbara Fredrickson, who has a book out right now and who was recently interviewed in a magazine called The Sun (full disclosure: my wife conducted the interview). Fredrickson says that instead of trying to pursue happiness as an end state, we would do better to focus on specific positive emotions in our day-to-day lives. I thought of this principle when I read yesterday about how you wanted to be as "complacent" as everyone else in Wisconsin, but when you went to a rodeo in Wisconsin you hated it. It was complacency that made that clown's racist comedy routine possible. Are you sure you want to be complacent? Are you sure happiness is overrated? Maybe it's just misconstrued.
Here's a link to an excerpt of the Fredrickson interview, where she talks a little about how to unpack the concept of happiness:
http://www.thesunmagazine.org/issues/401/the_science_of_happiness
Posted by Brent on January 18, 2010 at 1:08 pm | permalink |
… consider someone putting a wig on their head racist.. (do you freak out at halloween as well)…
…same type of disingenuous B.S that repesents this article, and the reason it was written..
KarenM- Maybe some wounds are too open for some of us and not for others. I have heard the behind your back things that white people say because – I look like the white pack. There is a violent physical thing that could have killed my son that occurred here in WI – I don't even want to write details – but it was in his opinion influenced by race. I thought that this whole grey area is what sent Dave Chappelle off to Africa to clear his head and pretty much turn his back on a successful show. If Dave Chappelle – one of the most brilliant people I can think of – had that ill feeling about his own productions, wondering if his race humor wasn't feeding racism – why can't Penelope express that she feels sickened by a white rasta wig wearing clown who thinks that putting on dreadlocks make him presidential? Because somebody is white, it does not mean that they can't have opinions or gut feelings on race. I am happy that somebody here in Madison, WI has written honestly about such an incident and others are compelled to give it some thought and respond. Sure – this is not the stuff of tragedy. But most white people – at least in this part of the world – are not forced to think about race at all.
Posted by Carol G on January 18, 2010 at 1:21 pm | permalink |
Connecting this to Halloween demonstrates a lack of critical thinking.
Posted by Brian on January 18, 2010 at 4:25 pm | permalink |
To @mattsingley –> thanks so much for the posts!
To P Trunk –> So now the issue is not racism but that "it's not appropriate for kids".
Posted by Melissa on January 18, 2010 at 1:28 pm | permalink |
Wow, what an ignorant woman you are! I feel great pity for you and those poor children. I happen to know one of the "threesome" girls and she is a lovely,intelligent and hard working person. She has a strong set of morals and is just an amazing person. How dare you make such an assumption based on a trick she performed! Shame on you lady, you are truly an ugly human being. You and everything about you is what's wrong with this world today! What an embarrassment!
Posted by J on January 18, 2010 at 1:34 pm | permalink |
So let's get this straight J. You are upset because you think it is wrong to judge someone without knowing them; as was done to your 'friend'. You feel so strongly that it is 'wrong', that you turn around and exhibit the exact same behavior that you accused Ms. Trunk of. To use your own words, "Shame on you lady".
Posted by Dave on January 18, 2010 at 2:38 pm | permalink |
I judged what I believe to be ignorant comments made by what I feel is an ignorant woman. The author posted this to the public to read and form an opinion on, I formed mine. Let me rephrase;It is my belief, based on your over all blog, in which you voice your opinion that you are ignorant. However, since I do not know you personally I can only hope that this is just a momentary laps in judgment and you normally check your facts, or backgrounds of the people/companies you bash before any bashing is done. Ahhh, now don't we all feel better?? :)
Posted by J on January 18, 2010 at 3:14 pm | permalink |
Indeed! Instead of feigning outrage at Penelope, perhaps you should let your friend know what the perception is of her routine. Perhaps she might want to make changes if that is not the impression she wants to give her audience.
Posted by Brian on January 18, 2010 at 4:28 pm | permalink |
@J Penelope made no such assumption about the women performing the tricks. She said the trick conveyed that impression. She was commenting on the performance, not the person! The purpose of any art or performance is to evoke a feeling, and it's entirely appropriate to comment on and analyse that. If you don't know that, then you are the one who is ignorant. If you do know that, then perhaps you should retract your ill-founded comment.
Posted by Caitlin @ Roaming Tales on January 20, 2010 at 11:00 am | permalink |
Borat.
Those were real people. Real Americans, unfortunately.
Sigh. I don't get surprised anymore by this stuff, but it's still disappointing.
Posted by Tzipporah on January 18, 2010 at 1:46 pm | permalink |
You are welcome to stay & work in this great state of Oklahoma…..just be LEGAL!! Otherwise, you should move to Texas, or hey, back HOME! The state of Oklahoma did not invite you here, you came on your own free will-ILLEGALLY! If you don't want to follow our laws, don't stay!!
Posted by Proud Okie on January 21, 2010 at 11:11 am | permalink |
thank you for making me feel less alone in some of my experiences in oklahoma and beyond. of course everyone stayed seated. the way all pulpits will remain silent over pat robertson's disgusting remarks, and the way democrats will give a pass to harry reid.
years ago, mcdonalds decentralized public relations. it was a good thing for the most part, but in regard to the rodeo we see how decentralization can hurt them – because mcdonald's would never, ever stand for that. i'm sure you'll hear from them. in oklahoma, they are a champion for hispanic teens – possibly the only major corporate champion in a state that made it a felony (you read that correctly) to hire an illegal alien. send me to jail.
Posted by jen on January 18, 2010 at 1:47 pm | permalink |
Mattingly,
congrats for doing the Investigative reporting that the said reporter should have done herself.. hmm.. mcdonalds surely will not be too happy about this
To all others, well,let's get real.. were any of you there? to even see what was said?
all this fuss over a wig? really? seriously? and considering the now proven tremendous lack of research that went into this, the fact that many consider to embrace the credulity of this article is indeed incredulous in itself
Posted by KarenM on January 18, 2010 at 1:53 pm | permalink |
Nope, not about a wig. You might want to read it again, if you think it was all about a wig.
Posted by Brian on January 18, 2010 at 4:30 pm | permalink |
KarenM: If you don't believe what Penelope has to say, why do you read this blog?
Posted by Carol G on January 18, 2010 at 2:01 pm | permalink |
Carol G
Real discrimination does indeed hurt. Been there, done that..
Which is why it is important not to trivialize REAL discrimination which hurts many from something as doubtful as what has been presented here..
Who was hurt by the clown? Which then also questions should we ban all comedians from making jokes? Should We stop Halloween? Should Circuses also be banned as well? Should fat people be insulted because santa is fat? and rolly, and jolly? Where do we stop?
You may find this interesting re free speech and aclu
http://www.aclu.org/studentsrights/expression/12808pub19941231.html
Posted by KarenM on January 18, 2010 at 2:03 pm | permalink |
Karen, this article is amazing. Thank you for sharing it.
Posted by econopete on January 18, 2010 at 10:28 pm | permalink |
What a miserable woman!!
Pull that liberal wad out of your @ss and get a sense of humor.
Really, this is the furthest I've ever seen a crazy woman stretch to try to justify as a reason for her own boredom with herself. Self project lately?
She's got issues. And I can imagine those kids have such an incredibly boring childhood….being taught to judge so quickly and all…
Open minded? I think her mind was made up from the beginning.
Posted by Mila on January 18, 2010 at 2:05 pm | permalink |
Next time you read the post, if ever, be sure to turn your brain on first.
Posted by Brian on January 18, 2010 at 4:32 pm | permalink |
I just want to make a small point.
Saying "all this fuss over a wig?" is a little bit like saying:
"All this fuss over a bus seat?," or
"All this fuss over a water fountain?," or
"All this fuss over a school?," or
"All this fuss over a flag?"
…and so on, and so forth.
Posted by Anna on January 18, 2010 at 2:11 pm | permalink |
Anna,
re your comment -seriously, you compare a Clown in Dreadlocks with Straight out Discrimination? Really?
Who was hurt? Obama? really? this person made fun of a president, but did they actually make racial slurs against a Group of individuals or race.. I doubt that sincerely.. even in small town usa as described by penelope.
This was probably a situation of bad humor, but to call this Racism.. well that is Disturbing at its best..
—–
Author: Anna
Comment:
I just want to make a small point.
Saying "all this fuss over a wig?" is a little bit like saying:
"All this fuss over a bus seat?," or
"All this fuss over a water fountain?," or "All this fuss over a school?," or "All this fuss over a flag?"
…and so on, and so forth.
Posted by karenm on January 18, 2010 at 2:53 pm | permalink |
Anna,
re your comment -seriously, you compare a Clown in Dreadlocks with Straight out Discrimination? Really?
Who was hurt? Obama? really? this person made fun of a president, but did they actually make racial slurs against a Group of individuals or race.. I doubt that sincerely.. even in small town usa as described by penelope.
This was probably a situation of bad humor, but to call this Racism.. well that is Disturbing at its best..
—–
Author: Anna
Comment:
I just want to make a small point.
Posted by karenm on January 18, 2010 at 2:54 pm | permalink |
My point was that what appears minor may not be so minor to everyone. It isn't fair to marginalized those who find this situation offensive. There were people in the 50's and 60's who didn't find quite a few things offensive then that would turn all our faces red today.
Posted by Anna on January 18, 2010 at 3:07 pm | permalink |
And Penelope, being African-American, is esp. sensitive.
Posted by Belinda Gomez on January 18, 2010 at 5:43 pm | permalink |
@KarenM What's the connection between Obama and Rastafarians? C'mon think about it. There's only one possible connection, isn't there? Now tell me if this joke would have worked if they'd dressed Dubya up as a Rastafarian? Do you still think it's not racist?
What the skit reminds me of most is "blacking up".
Posted by Caitlin @ Roaming Tales on January 20, 2010 at 11:04 am | permalink |
Yes, this. What Anna said. (I wish you had a "like" button on this blog!).
Posted by Caitlin @ Roaming Tales on January 20, 2010 at 11:02 am | permalink |
Getting kind of smarmey here…this must have gotten out on the righty blogs. The trolls will be coming out in force now.
Posted by Dave on January 18, 2010 at 2:30 pm | permalink |
You consider politely asking an author to do a fact-check before lighting torches and storming the corporate castle smarmy? A great diversionary tactic is to make something emotional by calling up politics like "righty blogs" and "trolls".
As I mentioned in my original comment above, I would just like to know what both the All-Star Rodeo and McDonald's have to say about this before calling for a public assault and clearly tying a corporation to accusations of racism.
Posted by @mattsingley on January 18, 2010 at 2:36 pm | permalink |
Just RT'ed this, thanks for bringing it up. There's a lot I don't like about McDonalds, not the least of which is the FOOD. Full disclosure, I do occasionally eat there.
Posted by Lance on January 18, 2010 at 2:43 pm | permalink |
After reading the blog and reading some of these comments, this is what the world is coming too. Do you have your facts right, its already been proven they are not.So are all of the other statments that you make correct. I don't think so scooter. Not standing for the star stangled banner? Why didn't you stand up? No respect for America's Flag? What are you teaching or not teaching your kids? If you don't like America along with the rest of you that say its ok not to stand for the star spangled banner, just leave America and see how good it is in some other country!! Your statment "The girls did not share a horse because the tricks are more difficult that way",WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT DIFFICULT IN TRICK RIDING "it was more like the girls shared a horse to make you think they'd be available for a threesome after the show" I didn't know they taught that in the Jewish faith, maybe I need to become Jewish..Thinking that the girls that are trick riding are wanting to have a threesome?, Wow. Boy I would never explain that one to my kids. And Yes I know those girls, performed with them for a week last December in Las Vegas. Their group is an outstanding group of girls.And tricks on horses that was abused or mistreated before the girls got them and they have fixed the horses into something good. More than what I can say about you. But other posts on here about a baby monkey in Precott, get your facts right people, that was whiplash and he is at least 15 years old. He is also a spokesperson for Taco John,I'm sorry, now you will go after Taco John. Wow, Then another comment on here that clowns are the ones that protect the bullriders from the bull, boy you are so wrong, there are Rodeo clowns and there are Bullfighters, maybe you should understand the difference before you post something on here that you know nothing about.I just can't beleive people are so dumb, and yes I have freedom of speech so I can say that to you ignorant sob's that has nothing better to do but put other people down that is trying to do good, be honest and work hard for their living instead of looking for public aid. You know Rodeo, Monster Truck,Bullriding and Pro wrestling are industries that attract quite a few people, hard working folks that try to do good but like alittle entertainment that is a little wild. Are you just jealous that you only have a blog that people can stroke your ignorant ego. I'm more fired up than before I started typing. As Walter would say "Dumb Ass"!!!
Posted by Bert on January 18, 2010 at 2:47 pm | permalink |
Don't drag me into this…and you forgot to start your comment with 'In Jesus name'.
Posted by TacoJohn on January 18, 2010 at 3:08 pm | permalink |
"Look up the definition of racism…"
"Racism" is the belief that certain groups display negative characteristics. "Racist" conduct is the portrayal of negative traits as being associated with a particular group.
It's funny – remember when Rush Limbaugh claimed that criticism of Bush counted as "treason" because we are at war? It's funny that the same people who agreed with him now think it's perfectly ok to claim the President of the United States has no claim to the office. You realize that a medieval king would have you doinks drawn and quartered for that kind of obvious treason, right?
Anyway, this is American and you can say what you want about the President. But maybe you shouldn't take so many liberties with the dictionary.
Posted by Liz on January 18, 2010 at 3:20 pm | permalink |
Thank you for the article and telling about your rodeo experience…. I tweeted your message!
Posted by Lindsay on January 18, 2010 at 3:25 pm | permalink |
Well, didn't this post unleash a firestorm of diverse comments; good, bad, thought-provoking and downright snarky on all fronts. As a Midwesterner that doesn't care for rodeos either, I can understand why you felt out of place. What you described doesn't sound any type of rodeo I've ever seen or heard of. I used to work at a Midwest ad agency that created advertising for local McDonald's® franchises. Sponsorships like this are usually made at the local level with owner approval. We NEVER sponsored rodeos in our area. Ronald appearances were strictly overseen to ensure that he was only associated with family-friendly, non-confrontational events. It's too bad the local owners didn't think about the backlash of being associated an event that could be interpreted as polarizing. Based on my experience, that doesn't sound like McDonald's corporate philosophy.
Posted by LisaF on January 18, 2010 at 3:30 pm | permalink |
Interesting post. As a black man one thing that I've observed about McDonald's is they seem to have a high percentage of African-Americans in their commercials. Given that most of their food is artery clogging, blood pressure raising empty calories and they seem to target the African-American community I've never been a big fan of McDonald's.
Posted by Brian on January 18, 2010 at 3:49 pm | permalink |
Even though I'm someone who's grown up in western culture, I don't personally care for rodeos. The sport doesn't appeal to me. There is definitely a large majority of my area that it does appeal to, though, and that's why traditional rodeos are so popular here. But how does this sport reach people like me who don't care for it in the first place? Add a show in the middle.
Reading about checking facts from @mattsingley, McDonald's is nothing but a beneficiary from the show. I checked the website (which I had never heard about this show before today), there is nothing claiming McDonald's as a sponsor, only that a guy that is dressed as Ronald is there. So why are they being crucified for putting money towards this?
The more and more I read of this, the more I get offended. Not because of the actions at the rodeo, but because of the actions and the mob that's ensued. How many people cracked and laughed at Bush jokes. How many people crack and laugh at fat jokes. Should we boycott the companies who sponsor timeslots around Carlos Mencia, who's jokes can be labeled racist? I like this article: http://www.cabinet.com/cabinet/cabineteditorials/440378-308/great-strides-in-an-ongoing-trek.html . One quote: "… there were a few who said that equality wouldn't really have arrived in baseball until someone became the first black manager to be fired, just as white managers were fired."
Merriam-Webster defines racism as: "a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race". How does someone wearing a wig and cracking jokes along the lines of the issue of his alleged non-citizenship and his approval become racist. I have nothing against a man because of his skin color, in fact I have friends that are mexican, asian, black, etc. That doesn't prevent me from laughing at a good Obama joke because of his policy, the frenzy of his disputed citizenship, as long as it doesn't cross the line of saying he's inferior because he's black.
Our society will never truly be rid of racism because it is filled with human beings. Our society will never be truly free, though, until we stop our over-sensitization of alleged discrimination, both religious and racial. True tolerance is not removing everything that can be perceived as "offensive" to other people. True tolerance is acknowledging the difference, whether disagree or agree, and move past it quietly. Insult and discrimination is different than dislike. Dislike is being approached by a Mormon missionary. Intolerance is making a federal case out of them knocking on your door politely.
Posted by jafred on January 18, 2010 at 4:01 pm | permalink |
We aren't looking for public aid. We want a better society.
Posted by LTF on January 18, 2010 at 6:21 pm | permalink |
@Jafred The only connection between Obama and the Rastafarians is his skin color. It fits the Merriam-Webster definition of "racist" you have given above perfectly because Obama as a black Rasta is presented as a figure of fun. It actually would have been *less* racist to have a blacked up face because the black skin is truth, while the Rasta wig is a random connection based on race.
As for McDonald's, I don't think they are to blame for what happened at this rodeo (which is definitely racist). But I think they definitely ought to know about it and I think they should be taking steps to ensure that their own brand properties, such as Ronald McDonald, are not used in such a way.
Posted by Caitlin @ Roaming Tales on January 20, 2010 at 11:09 am | permalink |
Well, thanks to your liberal "progressive city-loving" thinking "all animals should be free" BS, those lush pastures for animals to graze are becoming more & more depleted! Maybe you should spend some time on a farm or ranch to see how much animals are really cared for!
Posted by Proud Okie on January 21, 2010 at 11:34 am | permalink |
As I was reading this I couldn't help but think about the movie 'Borat'. The rodeo he attended showcased what you saw-people cheered that we would kill all of the people in Iraq. The owner told him to not look like a muslim, and that they needed to hang all the gay people. I think it's awful that people think it's ok for kids to attend these and listen to the hateful 'jokes' and animal violence. I know the farmer says it's ok for the animals, but really, they don't like it. And the living conditions can't be as great as a grazing bull in pasture.
I would have felt the same way you did. We are a naive country, and events like these don't help us much. (keep in mind the 'clinging to guns & religion' statement-rings true here).
Posted by liza on January 18, 2010 at 4:16 pm | permalink |
So you are right, Wisconsin IS a much happier place than New York City… for white Christians (preferably male).
Posted by Naomi on January 18, 2010 at 4:52 pm | permalink |
I tweeted.
This makes me feel sad, that in this day and age, someone in a position of power (or holding the microphone) would have the indecency to be racist. And I'm shocked that no one said a word. I'm glad you posted about this, because your one voice is turning into a crowd.
Posted by Carly on January 18, 2010 at 5:35 pm | permalink |
"The most special time, I think, was when two girls did tricks on one horse. The girls did not share a horse because the tricks are more difficult that way, it was more like the girls shared a horse to make you think they'd be available for a threesome after the show."
You know nothing about this, do you? But you've got a great post that makes you feel superior and makes your readers feel like they're doing something.
Posted by Belinda Gomez on January 18, 2010 at 5:38 pm | permalink |
So where's the racist part?
"Then, out of nowhere, the clown brought out a wig, that had dreadlocks, and he put on a Rastafarian hat, and he started pretending that he was Barack Obama. He said, "I feel so presidential." And he made jokes about whether Obama is a US citizen."
If he'd worn a red wig, and pretended to be Conan, would it still be racism?
Posted by Belinda Gomez on January 18, 2010 at 5:45 pm | permalink |
Well – that's a fascinating point – sort of. I mean, at one time the Irish were the new lowly immigrants. At this point, we don't think of them as being that vulnerable as a group. Maybe some Irish people reading this can speak up on this point?
But on hair: Conan O'Brian really does have a remarkable, full head of red hair. So a red wig would make comedic sense. And he does make fun of it, himself. So, IMO, not as strong an argument for racism with your red Conan wig example. Maybe you can suggest to the rodeo that they do some Conan/Leno material. Very timely!
Posted by Carol G on January 18, 2010 at 6:17 pm | permalink |
Penelope,
I've read your blog for a long time – Shhh, I read it in secret because my wife doesn't like your sexuality and you just plain piss her off – but this is the first time I have ever been moved to comment. I rarely disagree with you even though I tend to lean to the right (life member of the NRA). Just to let everybody know I live in Georgia.
I *felt* you were biased before the rodeo even started, and because of that you would have never given them a positive review.
Here's the thing that moved me to comment. NOT standing for the flag. I'm a Vet and I always stand for the flag. I try to live by my core values. Those core values tell me to always stand for the flag and the America it represents. I wrap myself in that symbol because I protected "Freedom of Religion" and I protected your "Freedom of Speech". I believe in it's symbolism.
My core value tells me to stand for the flag, and not react to every idiot with a microphone. Penelope, you should have stood for the flag and then thrown a beer bottle at the announcer.
In my mind the symbolism of the flag is above or beyond the event it is being waved at. The flag represents America as a whole and its triumphs, it is not mean and small, it does not represent the differences in our religions, but protects those differences. It does not represent racism but our progress over it.
I would stand for the flag even if I was at a left wing rally for Obama and PETA <– you can insert whatever you want here. I would stand for the flag every time no matter what, and I would be ashamed because I attended an event that was offensive to me.
So next time any of you are feeling all self-righteous, make sure what it is your feelings are based on. The flag or an idiot who has a microphone.
Maybe one more thing. I have a hard time wrapping my head around you complaining about someone being sexually overt. Maybe the girls were or were not, but I felt it was hypocritical of you.
Keep up the great work, you are a great writer.
Posted by keyholeelf on January 18, 2010 at 6:20 pm | permalink |
I'm sure the announcer saying "rise in the name of Jesus" has more to do with why Penelope didn't stand; not because she hated the rodeo. Penelope is Jewish.
Posted by Jeremiah on January 18, 2010 at 9:25 pm | permalink |
Jeremiah, did you miss Keyholeelf's point? He's saying Penelope should have stood even though she was Jewish, because that's what the flag stands for "freedom of religion."
Just because the announcer was confused on what the flag stands for, doesn't mean everyone else should be.
I laughed at "throwing a beer bottle at him." Or maybe Penelope should have at least hollered something to effect that our flag stands for the Jews as well.
Penelope, as for family values, how do you explain what you write to your kids? You use sex as your biggest marketing tool, right up there with brazenness. I don't see any difference.
If your kids don't read your blog now, how long do you think that will last? You're a naive parent if you think much longer.
Posted by a farmer on January 20, 2010 at 12:18 pm | permalink |
Part of that freedom you said you fought for includes the choice not to stand for a flag. The Constitution>dyed fabric.
Posted by Noah on January 21, 2010 at 1:08 pm | permalink |
This is one of my favorite posts by you, and it's so fitting for MLK Day. Bravo to you – and the farmer – for setting an example for your kids AND for not being afraid to stand up for your rights, by not standing for the flag. It's disingenuous to wrap religious beliefs into the idea of patriotism, and then criticize people for failing to be patriotic, when what really happened is that they were practicing freedom granted by the flag (symbolically) to not be compelled to live by the religious values of others. This is particularly important when religion is being used to promote bigotry. I can't *believe* they would pull that racism crap about Obama in Madison.
Posted by Amanda on January 18, 2010 at 6:59 pm | permalink |
The announcer's joke about girlfriends & wives was funny.
And I really found it ironic that you were suddenly concerned about family values.
Right before your gutter mind speculates that there was some hidden erotic significance behind the placement of 2 female performers on the horse.
With respect to the clown, if the rodeo had been 2 years ago and he had made some off-hand remarks about George Bush or Dick Cheney, you libs would've been on your feet applauding.
Finally, the doctors/guns remark is quite timely and lots of people feel the same way. How would you expect the crowd at a rodeo to react ?
I feel sorry for your kids. And the 'farmer'.
Posted by plainspoken on January 18, 2010 at 7:09 pm | permalink |
Good use of "libs" there, glad you're able to avoid the stereotyping the offensive rodeo utilized.
And as far the nonsensical gun/doctor argument, let's do a little thought experiment. How many deaths would be prevented if there were no guns? How many deaths would be prevented if there were no doctors? I'll help you out: Doctors save lives, guns take them.
Posted by Noah on January 21, 2010 at 1:12 pm | permalink |
One of my favourite quotes of all time:
"The less justified a man is in claiming excellence for his own self, the more ready he is to claim all excellence for his nation, his religion, his race or his holy cause."
-Eric Hoffer
Posted by Elizabeth on January 18, 2010 at 7:24 pm | permalink |
that is a great quote.
Posted by sarah on January 20, 2010 at 7:37 am | permalink |
This quote is bullshit. It doesn't apply most of the time.
Take Obama himself as an example. I'm sure he thinks of himself as an excellent person, and I'm sure he clams excellence for his nation, his religion, and any other cause her cares to follow.
Posted by keyholeelf on January 20, 2010 at 11:37 am | permalink |
To try to find a place where everyone thinks the way you do is not sensible. I wouldn't want to live where my thoughts were always the correct ones. I have been wrong before, have you?
Are you so sure you want so much similarity of the masses? Do you think it is possible? You lived in New York, a huge mixing pot of people and ideas, did you come across people of diverse ideas there? Did you agree with everybody?
Racism is prevalent throughout the world. You will not solve the problem with twitter.
Educate you children. Try to educate the farmer. You can try to educate your followers, but I suspect they fall into two categories, those that believe what you think is correct already, and those that believe your wrong regardless of what you write.
giggity,
jb
Posted by john b on January 18, 2010 at 7:55 pm | permalink |
You are one stupid Bit__. You have about as much class as your assHole.Are you so jealous you have to put down others with your sick views. I feel sorry for your kids for they will be the ones that suffer over your stupity.
You are a zero person. you nees a reality check and I wish I could give you one,but like most people like you they have to hide behind a computor screen
Posted by Paula on January 18, 2010 at 8:45 pm | permalink |
I'm not taking sides here, Paula, but if you're going to comment on what you perceive to be a lack of class, don't you think you should show some yourself? Using vulgar language and calling someone a zero is not really classy. Sorry.
Posted by Margaret on January 20, 2010 at 12:59 pm | permalink |
Don't worry, none of those people at that event were actually from Madison. They were all F150'ed in from Janesville.
Posted by Nick on January 18, 2010 at 9:08 pm | permalink |
I'm sure many has already said this…but I'm sure that McDonalds has no idea what actually takes place during the rodeo – at leat I hope they don't.
I did retweet your tweet.
Posted by Jeremiah on January 18, 2010 at 9:21 pm | permalink |
I don't tweet, but I updated my facebook status with your message. Thank you for sharing this post, especially on today of all days.
Posted by Julie on January 18, 2010 at 9:24 pm | permalink |
I am no rodeo fanatic – but I have seen some trick ponies – your comments about the women were uncalled for. Frankly it makes me question your judgement on the rest of the incident.
Posted by Sara on January 18, 2010 at 9:32 pm | permalink |
Wow… I got dragged to a lot of rodeos and horse events when I lived in Northern CO and I NEVER saw anything like this. Wow. Wow. I would have gotten up and walked out. My husband loves horses and I've been to a lot of events in CO / WY and I have never seen anything like that. Sure, it's kind of folksy, and I was uncomfortable about the animals at the rodeo ( I do believe it harms them), and the events were also very 'white' overall. But the announcers were very homey and populist, and it was "family entertainment" if they still use that word. No politics! More like traditional stories and a few tear-jerkers, and just talking like you'd find on regular mainstream radio. And the female rodeo performers were feminine but fully dressed, it was mostly the same as the men just tighter jeans maybe and more rhinestones.
I never thought I would be defending rodeos (lol!) but I just wanted to say I can't believe this is representative. And you should complain.
Posted by former_CO on January 18, 2010 at 9:42 pm | permalink |
I'm sad to say that the rodeos I've been to (as far South as Texas, and as far North as Saskatchewan) always have some political rhetoric.
I repeatedly try to do the 'when in Rome' thing, but I always come away feeling similar to Penelope. The riders' skills are noteworthy, but the culture makes my skin crawl.
Posted by Elizabeth on January 18, 2010 at 9:56 pm | permalink |
Maybe it's still a regional thing somehow? I don't know, I've seen a lot of shows in CO and neighboring areas and I just can't imagine. I asked an old friend of mine with rodeo riders in his family and he said this sounded unusual as well. I mean, there's still a difference between a few gently-right-leaning jokes, and openly mocking the President. I mean wow. I believe Penelope's story but it's a shame this was her first experience, these types of events can really be a classic kind of Americana and it's shame that she probably won't want to try again after this.
Posted by former_CO on January 18, 2010 at 10:06 pm | permalink |
First of all ma'am, you strike me as someone who goes to a function looking for something negative to bring to your platform. Second of all know your facts. The announcer said "In Jesus name we pray, Amen. Now please stand for the National Anthem." This event that you have degraded from get to go is not only a part of our american heritage, but also established to raise money for the Ronald McDonald House Foundation. From the filth in your mind that truly shows me who you are, you took something very patriotic and turned it into something trashy. The girls that you have degraded are from a team called The All American Cowgirl Chicks, who dedicate their time and their lives for the betterment of others, human and animal. Intelligent people research their facts before writing stories that show their true ignorance. Please go to http://www.cowgirlchicks.com and research the group you degrade.
The rodeo company and group of people that produce the event have spent many years raising money for many different foundations. For a person such as you to try to build such a negative from a very great positive thing shows me the vast difference in a person who has nothing to look forward to in their life and those trying to give others something to look forward to in life. You are a disappointment as an American and a Christian or God believing person. It is so much easier to find something positive in this world then it is for someone like you that looks for only the negative. Find another genre to pick on.
Donnie Smith
Posted by Donnie on January 18, 2010 at 9:59 pm | permalink |
Wow, is that seriously what the announcer said? Sounds very different than described in the original post.
Posted by @mattsingley on January 18, 2010 at 10:37 pm | permalink |
"You are a disappointment as an American and a Christian or God believing person."
Being American (or Canadian or Swedish or Indian, etc.) is not synonymous with being Christian.
Posted by Elizabeth on January 18, 2010 at 11:18 pm | permalink |
"In Jesus name we pray, Amen. Now please stand for the National Anthem."
versus
"Everyone please rise in the name of Jesus and sing the Star Spangled Banner."
I suspected P's quote was inaccurate. That is a significant distortion, which casts doubt on her entire tale.
Posted by JR on January 20, 2010 at 7:46 am | permalink |
@Penelope Can you please clarify this? It is a significant difference because the prayer ends with "amen" and the national anthem is then a separate thing. I don't see why they needed the public Christian prayer anyway but if the "amen" came before the anthem, then the religion part was over before they got to the anthem. Conflating the anthem and religion is problematic but is that what happened or is it possible you had your wires crossed?
I'm still appalled by the clown Rasta act and will be letting McDonald's know about this, but in the name of transparency, I think you should answer this question and also make a note in the post on this and the sponsorship point.
Posted by Caitlin @ Roaming Tales on January 20, 2010 at 11:18 am | permalink |
@Donnie I can't figure out if you're real or a very funny parody.
Posted by Caitlin @ Roaming Tales on January 20, 2010 at 11:13 am | permalink |
Donnie is for real. I have been to many rodeos that this announcer has work for since my daughter is a member of this team. His payer always ends the same way. I even have video tapes of his payers since my daughter is down on the arena floor about to perform as soon as the National Anthem is over.
Penelope's Blog is a sad distorted parody of the truth that is hurting real every day people.
Posted by Michellee on January 21, 2010 at 3:14 pm | permalink |
I checked your cowgirlchicks link. I have to say, the women there are wearing outfits that cover a lot more skin than I imagined from reading Penelope's post.
Posted by From Wisconsin on January 20, 2010 at 12:29 pm | permalink |
Right On Donnie!!!!
Posted by Bert on January 24, 2010 at 1:57 pm | permalink |
I love your blog and I particularly loved your post today. I have to admit I'm not sure I would have had the guts to do what you did let alone blog about it. I read your post out loud to my eldest daughter who is a recent graduate and about to look for not just a job, but a career. You are absolutely, 100% right. Every penny we spend, every word we write, is power.
Posted by Pamela on January 18, 2010 at 10:23 pm | permalink |
hi penelope, i tried to send you this message via twitter but it was beyond my skill level:
@penelope trunk: we tweeted your message! i just tweeted my first tweet and it was YOUR tweet not mine! how tweet it is!
your blog is wonderful.
thanks, polly
ps: i grew up in evanston, hurrah for the north shore!
Posted by polly on January 18, 2010 at 11:02 pm | permalink |
All Star Rodeo Challenge was not sponsored by McDonalds at this event, All Star Rodeo Challenge was raising money for the Ronald McDonald House Charity through bandana sales at our Cowboys for Kids Pre Show of which 100% of proceeds went to the Charity. Our cowboys and personnel went to local hospitals to visit sick children and brighten their day for no financial gain. In fact we raised over $15,000 for the Charity last year. In 2008 we worked with the Deanna Favre Hope Foundation and raised over $150,000 for women in Wisconsin for treatment of breast cancer, not research but to help local women without the financial ability to take care of themselves or pay their bills during treatment. We as an organization always try to work with a charity in each market to give back to the community – we actually do socially responsible things not talk about them.
We believe in God and try to live the according to his word and are proud of it, we are proud to be Americans and are proud of our flag and believe we should stand with respect for our flag and teach our families the same respect. I love and respect my husband who is a farmer, and love and respect those who through their hard work, calluses and sweat put food on the table as we feed the WORLD. Your Farmer husband also deserves much more respect than you give him. I would never disrespect my husband in the name of a story.
Racism is an expression of hatred to someone of another color. I am blond and can still laugh at a blond joke. I think calling someone a Redneck is just as racist and negative. Degrading Midwesterners in agricultural communities, is that a form of racism if you are creating your own definition?
We look at female trick riders also with great respect for their athleticism and find it repulsive that you could twist that into some disgusting sexual remark. Gymnasts, swimmers, dancers, Dancing with the stars, women with great talent that dress in a costume, I respect them for their talents, not turn them into something dirty, based on the costumes or clothing they wear.
We also believe in the First Amendment and freedom of speech. We believe you have a right to your opinion and respect it, but also believe it is just that, your opinion and that does not make it true. The quote "stand in the name of Jesus" demonstrates your irresponsible journalism and again discredits your negative account because we also PRAY and the invocation ended In Jesus's name Amen a standard way many end a prayer which was followed by Please stand for the National Anthem.
It is so disappointing that you could disrespect so many people from McDonalds, farmers and present it as facts. And then asked others to also be just as irresponsible and join your crusade. And you are worried about the negative impact our event has on your children, or a joke… You are their role model that just irresponsibly misrepresented several people and a large corporation to thousands of people with no regard for truth. My parents taught us the golden rule, do unto others as you would want them to do to you and that would not include any of the things that you have blogged or tweeted in the name of racism.
Posted by MMorehead on January 18, 2010 at 11:15 pm | permalink |
"We believe in God and try to live the according to his word and are proud of it . . ."
MMorehead,
Your comment is scathing, but the point of Penelope's post seems to have gone straight over your head. Not everyone in America is Christian! Not everyone in America believes in God! Not even everyone in Wisconsin is Christian or believes in God. And it's Penelope's right to be put off by your overt religious display.
Furthermore, quit the tired rhetoric that believing in God makes you a "real American." Just because she didn't stand for the flag doesn't mean she's not respectful of America OR the flag. I support our troops, I am an American, I live in Wisconsin, and I wouldn't have stood for the flag at that rodeo either. The overt religiosity would have made me uncomfortable because, whether you intended to or not, you conflated God with country. Sorry lady, just because Bill O'Reilly and Sarah Palin believe that the founding fathers were Christians and that they wanted prayer in schools and all that other jazz doesn't make it actually true.
Posted by Ariella on January 20, 2010 at 8:03 am | permalink |
I think MMorehead's comments are well written and justifiable. She's explaining the All Star Rodeo Challenge organization, which, by the way, has a right to be Christian and express that viewpoint. Because, after all, that is what the American flag stands for, right?
Isn't that what the big hullabaloo is nowadays? That we can express our faith, no matter what it is?
If I attend an event sponsored by the Muslim Charities Accreditation Program, should I be offended when they fail to acknowledge my belief? Of course not. Because they have that right.
Christians have that right too.
Posted by From Wisconsin on January 20, 2010 at 12:46 pm | permalink |