The guy who sold me my car cancelled the plates the very next week. Luckily, I didn’t know that because there was a November expiration sticker on the plate. So the fact that I was driving the car illegally for three months did not bother me. Until now. But now I’m at the DMV.
I know your first inclination is to say that I’m an idiot for waiting until the end of November. But I really, really cannot deal with bureaucracy. To give you a sense of how much I can’t deal with it, I almost did not graduate college because I had too many library fines. I graduated only because my grandma made some calls.
I have found, in adult life, that bureaucracy only gets deeper and deeper, and for someone like me, with Asperger Syndrome, the rules, numbers and conversations that bureaucracy entails is completely overwhelming: IRS, health insurance, 401Ks, I actually have no idea how people cope with this stuff.
Which brings me to the DMV, to register my car, the day my sticker expires.
I have to fill in my age on the form, but there are numbers all over the form and all over the room and I can’t remember if I’m 41 or 42. I know the math problem is 2009 – 1966, but it would require borrowing and carrying, I think, because the 9 is so much bigger than the 0 and that’s where they will line up: the 9 under the 0. The numbers on top always feel like they are flying and I can’t keep track of them and I’ll never get the math problem right. At least not right now. So I guess.
I tell the DMV lady I filled out my form.
She looks to see if I filled in everything.
She says that I left the second part blank.
This is true. It looked like it was too much. Like, how could they want all that information? I just can’t believe it.
She says, “You need your VIN, color, make, date purchased and your signature.”
“I do?”
“Yes. Do you have it?”
“I forgot the car title stuff at my house. Can you look it up?”
“You came to register your car without the vehicle identification number?”
“Oh. Um. I thought I had it.”
I have to go home.
This is not easy. I can’t read a map, and I don’t know left and right, so I can’t follow verbal directions, so I have three routes I know well in Madison, and if I’m trying to get anywhere, I try to get to one of my three routes. For me, it’s not about the fastest route, it’s about not having to follow a new one.
But I’m on the side of town I never go to, so I can’t figure out how to get to one of my routes. I think I have a straight shot to my office, though. So I tell myself I’ll go to my office and then I’ll do my regular drive home, and get the title.
But I get lost going to my office. I would usually call Ryan Paugh for something like this but he’s on vacation. I review the social norms I know about vacations: usually, if someone is your friend, you can call them for help on vacation. But Ryan probably only helps me because I’m sort of his boss.
So I get lost going to my office, and then I go home, and then I take the same route back to the DMV, but it’s so long that I decide to stop at my favorite gas station.
It’s my favorite gas station for the coffee. Have I told you that now that I live in Wisconsin I have taken to drinking gas station coffee? I don’t know what’s come over me. So my favorite meal right now is French Vanilla coffee and a Peanut Butter Power Bar.
I have told you before that transitions are insanely difficult for me. This is one of those times. I am eating—so nice and easy—and going back to the DMV seems so terrible, and isn’t going to ever work out anyway. So I get another coffee and another Power Bar. And it’s so nice, sitting in my car, alone, with no noise, and I think I’m going to die if I have to go back to the DMV.
I do not die, but I do get anxiety and start picking at my cuticles. I have Googled a million times to see if picking cuticles is associated with Asperger’s because it’s insane that I do it. I mean, it hurts and everyone can see it, and sometimes, if it’s a really bad day, I get blood on a nice shirt. Which is today. Well, not really a nice shirt because I was so stressed about today that I did not change out of the shirt I slept in. But I am bleeding.
The only thing I found out from Google is that people with Asperger’s self-mutilate as a way to focus away from what is overwhelming. So it’s like cutting. That’s what’s going on here. I find Googling that another form of this sort of self-mutilation is anorexia, which I wish so much I could have.
Do not tell me this is not acceptable to say. It’s always the fat people who say that. Because really everyone wishes they could be anorexic for a few days, just to get their weight down. I’m just wishing I could be anorexic for the days that I’m picking at my cuticles. The food thing is so much more socially acceptable.
I bring my VIN number to the window where the lady is.
She says, “Hello again.”
Really. She says this. And I can only think of that part of the book Go Dog Go where the dogs say:
Hello again.
Hello.
Do you like my hat?
I do not.
Goodbye again.
Goodbye.
I always liked that part because I felt like Go Dog Go doesn't just have work dogs and play dogs, and up dogs and down dogs. Go Dog Go also has Asperger’s dogs.
So I say, “Hello.”
I hope we are going to do the Go Dog Go script. I’m giddy with anticipation of having a real connection with the DMV lady.
She says, “Do you have proper identification now?”
I panic. I was expecting “Do you like my hat?” I thought she only needed the car stuff. I worry she needs a phone bill with my address on it or something.
I show her my stuff. She helps me fill in the form. She talks slowly for me, and it’s comforting.
She gives me a number and tells me to wait until it’s called.
I look around for people looking at numbers being called. I don’t see a crowd of people holding papers like mine.
Also, I hear a lot of stuff being called. I mean, there’s the Wisconsin ID department, and the driver’s license department, and the car registration people, and you can even get a passport photo taken here. There’s a lot going on. There are a lot of numbers here.
I worry that I’m going to miss my number while I’m trying to figure things out. So I go back to the woman and ask her how long she thinks it’ll be.
She says, “Not long at all.”
I say, “Not long like an hour, or not long like a minute?”
She says, “Five minutes.”
I go back to looking for where people are listening to numbers. I tell myself I have four minutes to figure out where the numbers are coming from. I look around and the place is full of sixteen-year-olds who are handling all the paperwork for their driver’s licenses. Their parents are reading books, taking care of young siblings, not paying attention to the forms and the numbers and the lines. The sixteen-year-olds are doing it.
Is this the DMV for the gifted-and-talented? Is it normal that all these teens can navigate the DMV? How do they know what to do? Where do they get their information?
I cannot figure out who is supposed to call my number. I am not hearing numbers. I so so so do not want to go back to the woman at the desk. I stare at the wall trying to figure out what to do.
The wall at the DMV is, actually, overwhelming. There are videos about immigration and posters about drunk driving, and there are LCD displays of numbers and letters and I have to find the only blank spot on the wall, in between the bathroom doors, to stare.
I tell myself that it will be fine to ask the lady at the window for help again. I remind myself about the airport. For years I was too scared to ask for help at the airport even though I could not read my boarding pass. I missed so many flights that Ryan Healy was not even surprised anymore when I called him from an airport to tell him I was stuck. Sometimes I’d be right there, sitting at the gate, watching the clock, but the clock is just more numbers, and still I’d miss the flight. Or, if I did not miss my flight, it took so much concentration that I would lose all my stuff; there's too much commotion to navigate for me to also read numbers.
So I started asking the person at the counter to circle the gate and the time on my boarding pass. I say, “I’m dyslexic and I can’t read my boarding pass.” The person always has a moment of surprise but usually they watch out for me.
So I pretend I’m at the airport and I go to the DMV lady again. I say, “Can you tell me what to do with this? I can’t figure out how to know where to go with my number.”
She says, “What number?”
I hand her my slip.
She says, “These are all letters.”
I look. And it’s true. They are. But they are tricky letters for someone thinking numbers. Well, the H is not tricky, but the I and the O really threw me off.
I say thank you, and then I see there is an LCD above each window in the whole place that shows the number and letter sequence that is almost like mine but not really mine.
I watch. And then it’s my turn.
I go up to the counter. The woman looks over my form.
I am so nervous that I’m not going to have the right information that I have to look away. I look at the customer at the window next to me.
She has a folder of information. Everyone has folders for their car stuff? How can the whole world be so organized? How can the government require that you be this organized to get through life? Why is no one protesting?
My new DMV lady looks up stuff in the computer. She tells me I have a ticket.
This does not surprise me. I get tickets a lot and I forget to pay them. So I sort of think of all tickets, when I get them, as the amount on the slip plus the inevitable late fee.
I say, “Can I pay it now?”
She says, “No. You need to pay at the police station at the Capitol.”
I don’t know why I say this, because just getting the words out gives me so much stress that I think I’m going to have diarrhea right there on the spot. But I say, “Can I go pay it at the police station and then come back?”
“No. It takes up to seven days to clear in the system.”
“What?”
“The system here needs to show you have no tickets before I can register your car.”
So I settle in for a week of surreptitious, unregistered driving while I wait for the system to clear.
Luckily this is not a day I have to drive to the farm. The farmer drives to my house.
And right when I am trying to get dinner on the table, he says, “Do you have a stamp?”
My first thought is, “It's so annoying that are you are talking to me when I am trying to get dinner ready because it’s too hard for me to do dinner and kids and stamps.” Also, I think, “Who is still using stamps? What do we need stamps for in 2009 besides letters to Santa?”
He says, “I got a ticket today for parking in front of your house, and I want to pay it before I forget.”
Then I put down my pot, turn off the stove and walk over to give him a kiss. The important thing when you have Asperger’s is not to be able to do stuff you can’t do, but to surround yourself with people who can.





This brought back memories of trying to help my daughter cope with ADHD. I did not realize how much society ignores people with disabilities until I had a daughter with one. I have been reading your blog for several months now. I admire you so much. You are an incredible person. You have encouraged and inspired me in many areas of life – from work to home. It is amazing how much you have endured and overcome! Thank you for this blog. May God bless you.
Posted by mara on December 1, 2009 at 8:25 am | permalink |
OH PLEASE! I have ADD and I can manage without a keeper or government intervention. This is ridiculous.
A grown woman who can't find the VIN?
Posted by Belinda Gomez on December 3, 2009 at 3:31 pm | permalink |
Belinda,
With all due respect, just because you have an issue and can deal with it well doesn't give you license to criticize everyone who else who has issues. I have ADD and my brother has Asperger's. What Penelope, my brother and others with Asperger's deal with is far beyond what you and I deal with. We have time management issues. We have trouble focusing. We also have lots of energy and drive and when we are doing something that we are really interested in. While ADD can complicate things, we can still for the most part retain our ability to interact with people normally.
People with Asperger's have great difficulty with this. They miss social cues. They can talk for hours about subjects that no one else cares about because they don't realize people aren't interested. They have to be taught to maintain eye contact and have trouble dealing with basic social protocol like courtesy. My brother did not say please or thank you until he was 12 in spite of constant prodding. I said them regularly by the time I was four. People with Asperger's also require some degree of regularity in their routines. Many people with Asperger's also tend to have anxiety disorders. With the VIN number example, it's not the Penelope was stupid. She was flustered and anxious and likely forgot. Since I also have an anxiety disorder that I was only recently diagnosed with and am learning to control, I can relate.
Your reaction is honestly a shame. I have always found that my struggles have made me more humble and compassionate. I can understand what it is like to suffer, and I also know how to learn to compensate. I don't coddle people or make excuses, but I try to uplift and help people to better themselves.
Unfortunately, other people take your track. They become arrogant and believe that they have suffered and won, therefore it is only weakness that causes others to fail.
This is utter nonsense. The truth is that you learned how to compensate and overcome ADD. We didn't simply overpower it through strength of will. Sadly, when I look back at my lowest points, it was usually someone like you who was there to kick me when I was down and belittle my problems.
We are the people who should be helping people to change and encouraging them whenever we can. If we can't, then we should at least do them the courtesy of staying out of their way.
Posted by Anthony on December 3, 2009 at 8:26 pm | permalink |
Belinda, if you really had "ADD" you would know that the previously used term "ADD" expired with the most recent revision of the DSM. Consequently, ADHD is the current nomenclature used to describe the disorder as one distinct disorder which can manifest itself as being a primary deficit resulting in hyperactivity/impulsivity (ADHD, predominately hyperactive-impulsive type) or inattention (ADHD predominately inattentive type) or both (ADHD combined type).
Posted by Jessica on December 4, 2009 at 6:39 am | permalink |
Threre are actually a number of groups for that sort of discussion. My favorite was always Spectrumites (spectrumites.com), though it's rather dead at the moment. AFF also was good at one time, though it went through a crissi of its own a while back. aspiesforfreedom.com Wrong Planet is another, though I wouldn't touch that one with a 10 foot pole :P
Posted by Eponine on January 4, 2010 at 1:40 am | permalink |
Say what? What does ADD have to do with Asperger's?? Anyway, a lot of people have ADD in addition to Asperger's. You make it sound as though ADD is something worse. It's not a reading of numbers problem. It's a clulessness to what a VIN is and why one would be expected to know something about it. Aspies don't learn well through making connections with other things in their everyday lives. They have to be taught most everything separately, and if it doesn't come up in the course of doing things, neither they nor anyone else will know there's something to know that they don't know!
Posted by MamaMia on May 19, 2010 at 10:34 am | permalink |
I had no idea this type of stuff was so hard for you! There's got to be some sort of group, or discussion board or something where people post ideas and tips and tricks about how they navigate things like this.
Growing up feeling this much stress over 'simple' things like this, when everyone else seemed to be doing okay, must've really sucked.
Posted by J (the regular) on December 1, 2009 at 8:33 am | permalink |
I second that. I had no idea how difficult these routine tasks were for some people. Is that why you hired a house manager? That makes sense to me. Perhaps you need to hire another or perhaps there should be an advocacy agency to help people with Aspergers with this stuff. Anyway I can't understand why you have to go in person to attend to your vehicle license. Crazy system!
Posted by Heather on December 1, 2009 at 6:08 pm | permalink |
Heather,
Are you for real? Grow up.
Posted by Corinne on December 2, 2009 at 10:04 am | permalink |
You are so full of crap.
Posted by R on December 1, 2009 at 9:03 am | permalink |
There's just no good reason for this comment. Why tell someone that they're full of crap? Simply stop reading the blog.
Hopefully you'll lose some of the hate in your heart.
Posted by Rhonda on December 1, 2009 at 12:11 pm | permalink |
"The important thing when you have Asperger’s is not to be able to do stuff you can’t do, but to surround yourself with people who can."
So, I may nothave Asperger's, but this statement is true for everyone. We're not all great at everything – infact there are plenty of times when we ALL suck at something (even seemingly simple things) and surrounding yourself with people who can pick up that slack makes life infinately easier.
On another note- I have the same types of issues with numbers. For years I've been trying to explain to my engineer husband how the numbers literally float around the page when I look at it and I should probably not be the one doing the taxes.
Great post. Thanks.
Posted by Melissa Murphy on December 1, 2009 at 9:10 am | permalink |
And that's why the best marriages/partnerships are between people who complement each other. Then you both have someone who can.
Thanks for a funny and charming post, and I'm with you on the temporary anorexia!
Allison
Posted by Allison Williams on December 1, 2009 at 11:59 pm | permalink |
I don't have Asperger's, (I'm insanely good at reading body language), but your experience at the DMV describes me perfectly. It's why I carried an expired license for 2 years before finally renewing it, and only after I needed a valid license to buy Sudafed. I'm sharing this post with everyone who gave me heck about my license.
Posted by Heather on December 1, 2009 at 9:20 am | permalink |
Heather and all,
My sister was ADHD before it had a name and she provided us with countless wonderfully funny moments of forgetfulness, lateness, silliness, and joy. I attended a dinner party of young professionals once where the subject of late driver's license renewal came up and everyone, just for fun, checked the expiration date on their licenses — all 8 had expired!!!! Hilarious.
Posted by Farley on June 4, 2011 at 5:58 am | permalink |
I feel for your plight and I don't mean to make light but you are really funny. The Go Dog Go part, funny. And I'm sorry but the DMV is challenging for anyone, except maybe the gifted and talented.
Posted by Jill on December 1, 2009 at 9:22 am | permalink |
Reminds me of the time that the police came to our house, because my Mom wouldn't return the library books. Though that was because she's anti "liberal establishment" and "no one can tell her what to do."
Life with people is hard.
Posted by MJ on December 1, 2009 at 9:37 am | permalink |
LMAO!
Posted by Heather on December 1, 2009 at 10:05 am | permalink |
1) why didn't you send one of your assistants to the DMV?
2) How come are you the boss of Ryan? Isn't he the CEO of the company?
It's a funny story, but I'm late on this blog and wanted to catch up
Posted by Gloria on December 1, 2009 at 9:45 am | permalink |
You bring up a good point about the assistant. I actually thought the car owner had to be there in person. But maybe not. Even now, I'm not even sure. But I think that I will ask my assistant to go for the followup visit to the DMV. That's a good idea.
As for who is boss of who. Clarifying: Ryan Healy is COO, not CEO. We have a new CEO — Ed Barrientos. Ryan Paugh is the one who helps me with directions.
Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on December 1, 2009 at 10:47 am | permalink |
Penelope,
When faced with situations that you know are going to be overwhelming bring along an assistant or a farmer. They can help you and then perhaps the next time the same situation arises you can go on your own.
As for your difficulty with directions and getting from one place to another – have you ever tried a GPS? They can talk to you and tell you when to turn.
This post was so enlightening. My children face similar issues and this helped me see things from their point of view.
Go Dog Go. Great book. That was funny you thought of that.
Posted by Amy on December 1, 2009 at 5:07 pm | permalink |
You are a mess. I love it.
Posted by Lynn on December 1, 2009 at 9:47 am | permalink |
What happened to your house manager? This seems like the perfect task for them to either do by themselves or to tag along with you.
I thought the anorexia comment was funny because when I was in the 4th grade, I read Steven Levenkron's The Best Little Girl in the World at least a dozen times and I tried really hard to be anorexic but I never made it past dinner.
Posted by Joselle on December 1, 2009 at 10:00 am | permalink |
Yes, good suggestion, Joselle. I'll try it.
I also loved reading The Best Little Girl in the World. And I think it's an achievement to have that book and Go Dog Go show up in the same comments string. So thank you for that, too.
Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on December 1, 2009 at 10:49 am | permalink |
Thanks for the post, it will help me be nicer to people when the ask for help; it is really hard for me to comprehend why people need explation and directions for the "simplest" tasks. I do however know how hard it is asking for help, but it is hard to remember that wheh others do . If they are asking for help it is because they really need it. I did not understand until yesterday why opposites attract, your post today confirms my discovery.
I am liking the farmer more and more (he is good for you, and I am sure you are good for him too).
Posted by Cat in Boston on December 1, 2009 at 10:12 am | permalink |
Did you know that your car will have its VIN printed on it…either on a plate on the dash, or on the inside of the driver car door?
So if you drove to the DMV, you can just go to the parking lot and get it off your car instead of driving home…
Posted by Anna on December 1, 2009 at 10:13 am | permalink |
I had no idea I could find the VIN there. I was wondering how to find it because I need it to request a replacement title so that I can donate my nonworking car.
I don't have aspergers but dear lord, the DMV confuses me. My parents have expandable files for all these sorts of things and I just keep meaning to get it figured out and to keep all my papers in one "good" location and then having no idea where they are when I need them. Maybe I'll give it another go this weekend…
Posted by Bethany on December 1, 2009 at 2:26 pm | permalink |
Would a GPS unit help you navigate?
Posted by Josh Schroeder on December 1, 2009 at 10:18 am | permalink |
Josh,
I am an ADHD adult and have trouble with my right and left, too. A talking GPS doesn't say "turn toward the gas station" it says, "turn right here on . . . street." You need to know your right from your left. (I pause and write something in the air to remember – I know I am right handed, but as I understand it, Aspies have trouble with those chain connections.) So you are correct, a GPS might not really help.
Posted by Farley on August 6, 2010 at 2:25 am | permalink |
It was hard for me to read this post but life is hard too.
You have a good sense of humor. I'll try to add mine here.
The Beatles – Drive My Car video on YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r490KKGN8mw
Take care.
Posted by Mark W. on December 1, 2009 at 10:19 am | permalink |
So to summarize, you can't calculate your own age. You can't drive without getting lost. Although you are a writer, you can't read or fill out a simple form without help. You can't anticipate that registering a car requires the VIN. You're terrified by the DMV, where the gravest danger is death by boredom.
It's amazing you can even survive, let alone graduate college or run a business.
Posted by JR on December 1, 2009 at 10:20 am | permalink |
It is indeed amazing, and all the more admirable that she has been able to accomplish so much in spite of her disadvantages.
Posted by Anthea on December 1, 2009 at 11:36 am | permalink |
I don't think J.R. intended his comment to comfort or congratulate, or inspire admiration of Penelope. He seems to be saying, "If you can't play by the rules, don't expect to live in the Real World."
I don't deliver well on routine expectations myself – in fact what Penelope does running her own business is beyond me, even though I'm her age plus a little. J.R. would have us both out with the wolves.
I just wish people like this showed their cards a little more plainly in daily living, without the anonymity of a blog comment. I'd tear those cards up and throw the pieces in their faces.
Posted by Paul on December 7, 2009 at 4:51 pm | permalink |
And you, JR, lack common empathy.
How can I put this…it's amazing you aren't in jail for committing violent acts?
Posted by Dree on December 1, 2009 at 2:32 pm | permalink |
"Because really everyone wishes they could be anorexic for a few days, just to get their weight down."
Please tell me you did not just say that.
I would rather read 1,000 of your miscarriage posts than that one sentence.
Posted by Dan Owen on December 1, 2009 at 10:20 am | permalink |
Why? It's true … at least for most of the women I know.
It's the universal desire of people that the hard things should be made easy, and we have this insane idea that if we were anorexic, our food issues would be easy because we wouldn't have to think about them.
If you've never suffered from this paradoxical and perverse desire, then you are very lucky.
Posted by Editormum on December 2, 2009 at 9:03 am | permalink |
Me too, it's true, Penelope. I prefer the miscarriage posts over the anorexic wish any day.
Posted by ioana on December 2, 2009 at 11:21 am | permalink |
That sentence made me sick to my stomach. I get that not eating is less noticeable than bleeding all over the place, but it's not a trade you want to make either. And no, it isn't just "fat people" who would tell you not to say you want anorexia. The reason that one sentence upset me is because I've been there. I know what it's like, and it's certainly nothing desirable. Turn the tables. Would you find humor in it if I said I wanted Aspergers'?
Don't be a wannarexic. Nobody likes them.
Posted by Lydia on December 3, 2009 at 3:59 pm | permalink |
Here is one to add to the Asperger's – Daddy Complex.
Posted by Richie on December 1, 2009 at 10:26 am | permalink |
This is so absolutely refreshing. I silently pat myself on the back every time I manage to get through an airport without issue and I wonder how everyone else is so non-chalant about it.
I'm so relieved that it isn't just me.
When it comes right down to it, if I sally on and push through the panic attacks, everything turns out all right in the end… even at the DMV or doctor's office when I hopelessly just want to throw my debit card at them and tell them to just make it all just go away.
Posted by Lyndsey Fifield on December 1, 2009 at 10:31 am | permalink |
jayz- people can be mean in the comments!
This story will remind me to be kind when I am dealing with someone who can't get it together.. Thanks.
Posted by Ayelet on December 1, 2009 at 10:36 am | permalink |
I don't think that's the lesson those commenters want you to learn. More that whenever anyone's at the end of their rope, they're indulging in self-pity and should have it scoured right out of them. For their own good, but more importantly, for the good of society, because it's hard for everybody – and we had better like it that way lest we become a decadent and failed civilization.
Posted by Paul on December 7, 2009 at 5:17 pm | permalink |
Hi Penelope,
Even as someone who does not have any learning disabilities, I definitely know how you feel. Especially this paragraph: "She has a folder of information. Everyone has folders for their car stuff? How can the whole world be so organized? How can the government require that you be this organized to get through life? Why is no one protesting?"
My mom is to me what the farmer is for you — the person who always has their shit pulled together. And just remember, even the people with the folders are bewildered sometimes too.
Posted by Danielle on December 1, 2009 at 10:37 am | permalink |
Wait, you could have gotten the VIN from under your windshield on the driver's side – you can see it from outside by simply looking at the bottom of the windshield where your windshiel wipers rest… assuming your car is not 50 years old. Also, they now put VINs on the doors of the cars. Could have saved you a lot of hassle!!!
Posted by Ulyana on December 1, 2009 at 10:42 am | permalink |
I see someone else mentioned this as well. I am shocked.
I remember the year I read the Iliad in college, and the class complained about it. And the teacher said all college freshmen read the Iliad because it's important to have a set of shared references, as a society, so that we can function together. I feel like I got the Iliad part of the shared knowledge but not the car part.
Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on December 1, 2009 at 10:54 am | permalink |
I wish the DMV lady would have told you. It's really her job. Of course, she doesn't **have** to, but it seems she could have easily prevented you from going home once you mentioned that you'd have to go back to the house.
Also, just as one of the readers mentioned, you should be able to do the renewals online going forward (but I can't really speak for WI, never lived there).
Posted by Ulyana on December 1, 2009 at 12:08 pm | permalink |
On the bright side, they won't appreciate the poetry when their armour rings around them.
Posted by TwistedByKnaves on December 1, 2009 at 2:11 pm | permalink |
I'm ashamed for my past home state if they don't give you the capability to renew a registration or register a car online (in the comfort of your own home or office). I thought they were more advanced than that!
Pen
Posted by Pen on December 1, 2009 at 10:45 am | permalink |
I too have wanted to be anorexic (just for a week or so).
Posted by Lisa on December 1, 2009 at 11:18 am | permalink |
I hate the DMV. I never have the right stuff and I always disappoint the lady behind the counter who usually cluck-clucks but then I look like I'm going to cry so she makes it all better.
What I really need, though, is a farmer.
Posted by Nancy Imperiale on December 1, 2009 at 12:12 pm | permalink |
I loved how you ended that post. More people need to take advantage of those "lightbulb" moments and just kiss the faces of the ones they love.
Posted by Jessie on December 1, 2009 at 12:13 pm | permalink |
I broke out in a cold sweat just reading this. Every time we change our cars I have to go through a similar process here in Spain, with the added complication that everything is in my second language. I don't suffer from Aspergers, and I'm an extremely confident person, but I find this visits hell.
It really is time that these bureaucratic hell holes actually started to realize they are performing a public service. And why don't they streamline things? The whole notion of then going to another place to pay your ticket and having to drive illegally for a week while the payment clears is ludicrous. Why cant you simply pay what's owed and process the thing there and then?
Posted by Mike CJ on December 1, 2009 at 12:20 pm | permalink |
"It really is time that these bureaucratic hell holes actually started to realize they are performing a public service. And why don't they streamline things?"
Mike, I totally agree with you here.
The government is a monopoly. The incentives to streamline and innovate don't compare to free enterprise. The irony is that the people who work in these "bureaucratic hell holes" have to endure the same hell as the rest of us.
Posted by Mark W. on December 1, 2009 at 1:29 pm | permalink |
It's these storytelling posts that really give me a clear sense of what it is like to live with a disability. Much more effective than hard and fast facts or a clinical analysis type of report. It adds that human element.
Posted by Amanda on December 1, 2009 at 12:28 pm | permalink |
I read an interview with Rupert Everett the other day and something he said has stuck with me: 'It's this whole language of political correctness, which I think is the closest thing to evil.'
You are not politically correct, and for this MUCH thanks.
Posted by Rach on December 1, 2009 at 1:02 pm | permalink |
Hi Penelope – Is this typical of Asperger's or(and?) have you been evaluated for an anxiety disorder? It reads like an extended anxiety attack.
Posted by secretseasons on December 1, 2009 at 1:02 pm | permalink |
Yeah. Typical for Asperger Syndrome to come with anxiety trouble. I should look into this…
Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on December 1, 2009 at 6:55 pm | permalink |
I LOVE this post, even with the asking-for-trouble anorexia comment. Stress and confusion at the DMV is natural, but yours is like a comedy routine. Sorry, but I nearly laughed out loud. Just drive carefully till the ticket clears.
Posted by prklypr on December 1, 2009 at 1:08 pm | permalink |
A friend went on the nicotine patch. He could not find or read the directions. Nobody told him to put it in a different place each day. Result – a large boil that took serious medical treatment. Warnings are important and need to be conveyed in multiple ways.
If it's any comfort, lots of people are intimdated by the DMV. I'm intimidated by the post office.
Posted by Barbara on December 1, 2009 at 1:30 pm | permalink |
You write the story so well, it almost seems like it was worth living through.
Your point about the overwhelming wall struck home for me. When I evaluated some schools last year while prepping to transfer my sons, we eliminated one right away because the walls were so heavily decorated there was nowhere for the eye to rest. One thing I like about the new school we're in is the teachers swap all the wall hangings regularly – they stay uncluttered and refreshed. That's what works for merchandising displays so why wouldn't it work in a classroom?
A few quick tips: first, always bring a folder. Even if it is just holding grandma's recipes, a folder impresses the hell out of the bureaucracy. You can pass for organized or at least get points for the assumed attempt to be organized. (This works in corporate life too.) Second, write down your questions (e.g. "What should I do to register my car?" and "Does the owner have to be the one registering the car?") and then phone first. You may spend time on hold waiting, but you can use that time, and then when you get there you'll be forewarned as to what to expect. Forewarned is forearmed.
I can't help but wonder if you'd treated the DMV like a business meeting – which it is for them – you would have been able to hack it. When you go back in 7 days, maybe you want to try that? Then you'll be a dog in car (legally) again (keeping with the go dog go theme).
Posted by ejly on December 1, 2009 at 1:37 pm | permalink |
I live in Upstate NY and you can no longer call the DMV to ask them questions. However, there are usually Freq. Asked Ques. on the nys dmv website and we can renew car registrations on there! It's great, I've avoided DMV for the last few years this way!
Posted by Emm on December 2, 2009 at 3:57 am | permalink |
I thought I was the only one that picked my cuticles till they bled. Everyone else always seems to have such nice fingers :)
Posted by Kiesa on December 1, 2009 at 1:43 pm | permalink |
I'm that person with the folder. Your post gives me a better understanding of why my friends constantly seem in awe of what feels ordinary to me.
Just before Thanksgiving, a friend asked me how to make all the food dishes finish at the same time. I was puzzled on how to give him advice. It seems mine just work out that way. I guess I always have a finish line in mind (whether it be that dinner is at 6, or that I'll walk out of the DMV with my car registered.)
But, on the other hand, I often make stupid comments socially. If I have a deadline or a goal, I'm fine. But if I'm in a social situation, I don't know where to go.
Posted by no name please on December 1, 2009 at 2:11 pm | permalink |
I have a love hate relationship. With your blog, with you, probably with my life in general. Sometimes (like today) you write posts that make life and community so real to me. You're not ashamed to share and be vulnerable and take all the trash talk that comes with it in an effort to impart very useful information for those that continue to read here. Admittedly, there have been times when I've sworn you off, deleted my bloglines subscription and vowed to never read another crazy post you wrote again. Then I sat back and examined why I was so uncomfortable with what you said. It's not always a learning experience or an "aha! she was right!" moment, but it does get me back here so that I don't miss out on the gems like today.
Thank you for the moment to moment account of what it feels like to go through what you do and the simplest advice of all to remember that we're not alone and it is okay to rely on others to get through life.
Posted by Bernadette Merikle on December 1, 2009 at 2:36 pm | permalink |
This is such a nice comment. Thank you. Thank you for trying again. I hope that the time in between the times you delete me from bloglines gets longer and longer and longer….
Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on December 1, 2009 at 6:56 pm | permalink |
It's rare for big catastrophic problems to break me down. It's always the grinding mileau of daily life that does it. Believe me, it's not just a problem for people with Aspergers!
This post captures that essence – the "little things in life" – perfectly.
You write extremely well.
Posted by Mike on December 1, 2009 at 2:37 pm | permalink |
I'm not the dude for the job, but it seems there's tremendous potential for a business doing consulting for folks with Asperger's.
Something with a 24-hour on-call number, lots of opportunity for online networking, and required practice sessions with the whole "awkward conversation/drink holding" tango. There could be body language index cards!
Sooo…you wanna start another business?
Posted by Dree on December 1, 2009 at 2:39 pm | permalink |
The last thing the pinks (=NTs) want is for an a$$burger to be allowed any breaks in daily living. The usual attitude is that we are weak characters who don't belong in (their) Real World and don't deserve any better than we've got.
Posted by Paul on December 7, 2009 at 4:57 pm | permalink |
Hi Dree,
That's precisely my line of work. I'm an Aspie who helps fellow Aspies get along better in an NT dominated world…and also helps NTs understand and work with us better.
Cheers!
Jeff Deutsch
Posted by Jeffrey Deutsch on August 4, 2010 at 2:19 pm | permalink |
Thank you so much for this. My husband can do theoretical physics, but he can't pay bills. I mean physically can't pay them, for reasons much like you describe. He missed whole semesters of university because he could not navigate the bureaucracy involved in registering for class. I used to be baffled that someone so smart couldn't manage not to bounce checks. I mean, he can do calculus in his head; surely he should be able to work a check register? Finally I accepted that I would never understand it but he wasn't going to change, and resigned myself to being the mundane one in our relationship. And here you go and describe what's going on in his head. Not literally — he can handle numbers and directions just fine. But you are describing what it's like to function in a world that is not quite set up for the way you think.
My husband has learned the magic of the folder too. Now when he gets pulled over on the highway, he pulls out a folder containing the last few years' insurance cards, car registration info, etc. The officer is often so satisfied by the mere existence of such a folder in the glove box that my husband gets off with a kind warning. Whereas, he used to routinely wind up in jail for being disorganized and socially clueless in the presence of a police officer.
He'd start off confused and nervous, and somehow it would escalate until he was out of the car with his hands on the roof getting patted down. Somehow, the existence of a folder, even if it's not very neat or entirely complete, seems to satisfy the authorities that you mean well and aren't trying to hide anything.
Posted by Becky on December 1, 2009 at 2:40 pm | permalink |
He trained you to do all the crap he doesn't want to be bothered with.
Posted by Belinda Gomez on December 3, 2009 at 3:34 pm | permalink |
Sorry Becky but I agree with Belinda. It's such a cliche… oh, honey I just can't seem to get the hang of this ironing…..
That can be ok, as long as you train HIM to do the things you hate – by being incompetent at them.
Posted by Cathy on December 3, 2009 at 7:37 pm | permalink |
Penelope, you should know, the 16 year olds aren't actually gifted and talented – they're just EXTREMELY motivated. :)
Posted by Tzipporah on December 1, 2009 at 2:42 pm | permalink |
Stick two labels to the dashboard: a left arrow with the word LEFT and one for RIGHT. Then get a GPS. Driving problem solved.
Posted by Brad on December 1, 2009 at 3:01 pm | permalink |
I have been a habitual nail biter for years. Stress always gets me going and I don't even realize I'm doing it.
Anyway, once again I loved reading this and can't tell you how much I admire your ability to be strong in the face of your Asperger's.
Keep bouncing back and coping. All the best.
Posted by Jonny on December 1, 2009 at 3:17 pm | permalink |
Simply cute :)
Posted by Jacob Revold on December 1, 2009 at 3:28 pm | permalink |
Thank you for making me feel better about my day and my little annoyances. I thought I had a hard time with bureaucracy.
Posted by PlanetHeidi on December 1, 2009 at 3:32 pm | permalink |
I'm disappointed at your anorexia comment not because I'm one of the fat people (I'm a US size 0) but because I think it's incredibly immature to go straight to thoughts of anorexia when thinking about losing weight.
Yes, all women feel a little 'fat' sometimes. I think that might be a universal truth. Most women even wish they could come down with the flu or a bout of food poisoning for a few days to shed "just one or two kilos". But really, no one wishes they were anorexic.
Anorexia isn't about being dissatisfied with your weight, it's about being dissatisfied with yourself. Usually it's a way of someone who doesn't feel that have any emotional control to gain control over their bodies.
Penelope, I can't help but read and love you blog, and of course you're entitled to your opinion, but I thought you had more maturity than that. It just seemed like a very childish comment.
Posted by Marina on December 1, 2009 at 4:09 pm | permalink |
Marina – I'm one of those people who sometimes wishes she was anorexic. I'm not one of the fat people, but I'm not one of the skinny people.
I understand that anorexia is about control; I understand it's a very serious disease. That doesn't stop me from wishing for an "easy" quick fix like food poisoning, lipo, or anorexia.
That doesn't make me immature, that makes me temporarily lazy.
Posted by Anony on December 1, 2009 at 6:02 pm | permalink |
@Anony Like you, I am neither fat nor super-skinny. There are times when I would like to lose a little weight and a quick would be nice. It's just that it's never occurred to me for even a moment that anorexia would be a 'quick and easy fix' or the 'lazy way out'. I think of it only as a sad, lonely, scary, painful and sometimes life-threatening disease. I've sometimes fantasised about a magic wand but never about anorexia.
Posted by Caitlin on December 1, 2009 at 9:21 pm | permalink |
I agree only I view it like a temporary fantasy… there are plenty of instances where I wish for dumb things, like the willpower of an anorexic…the skin of a print model…soon I quickly come back to earth and realize what I have isn't so bad. It's almost like an outlet for the anxiety. I wish I could explain it better. I took the anorexia comment as humor, yes it is serious for a lot of people, doesn't mean it has to become this taboo 'thing' no one can mention or joke about.
Posted by Emm on December 2, 2009 at 4:07 am | permalink |
I have to agree. Anorexia and all eating disorders are emotional disorders. But I do think Penelope's comment was not the most important part of her post. We all make thoughtless remarks based on a lack of understanding. I think her point was, if you're going to have an emotional disorder, maybe there could be a small benefit, such as being thin. Not the most sensitive, but given the context, perhaps just a bit of self depracating diversion.
Posted by lucinda on December 2, 2009 at 10:54 am | permalink |
Marina – Agree completely.
Anorexia is such a horrible addiction. It is no way to live, even for a week.
Posted by Melissa on December 2, 2009 at 6:17 pm | permalink |
I … ALWAYS get lost when driving/cant find my way out of a paper bag. I ALWAYS screw something up at airports (especially during international travel). I have ALWAYS sucked at admin (have trouble with complicated tax preparation; dont invest my money smartly; cant grasp general finance issues (ie. difference between principle & interest).
PT: YOU ARE NOT ALONE in being overwhelmed by minutia like this …. I'm right there with you, sis.
Posted by neko on December 1, 2009 at 4:26 pm | permalink |
Many with ADD have trouble with directions. So buy a GSP.
Posted by Belinda Gomez on December 3, 2009 at 3:36 pm | permalink |
Thanks for helping others understand how intimidating some tasks can be, Penelope. I, too, pick my cuticles until they bleed, less so the older I get, if that's any comfort to you….
My son and I both have Asperger's. Once we went to a restaurant that had such a "busy" menu that neither of us could read it. We finally made it work by covering up all but small portions of it and struggling through. I think we ate chips and salsa, and maybe burritos, out of desperation.
You are a terrific example of the incredible high-functioning and low-functioning that can exist in one person with Asperger's. Congratulations on soldiering through the DMV on your own. Maybe I will take some courage from you and try to get Washington State license plates, I've lived here 4 months now…
Sara
Posted by Sara G on December 1, 2009 at 4:33 pm | permalink |
I LOVE your Go, Dog. Go analogy!
Posted by jenny on December 1, 2009 at 5:14 pm | permalink |
Well, everyone,
After reading Penelope's post and all these comments, I'm sorta feeling "normal" again. I can read a map, follow directions, renew my car registration…pay a bill on time. And from age six I took those little challenges for granted. But I've got other ones, like I can't learn a foreign language, or memorize a bunch of boring facts, or do high math (or low math), or spell most three syllable words. Thank Heaven for spell-check!
But it seems to me, we're all wired differently, and we all process information differently, and we all have our strong points and weak points, and maybe the condition of mental variety among us all, maybe THAT'S "normal!" Maybe a restricting condition in one way of thinking makes us excel in others, and that this mental rainbow creates a wider range of varied thinking and creativity. 'Cause if we all thought the same way, and acted the same way, and believed the same things, from where would evolution grow?
So Penelope…okay you get lost driving home. But not within your sentences. You're never lost in writing…once you hit SUBMIT.
Irv P.
Posted by Irv Podolsky on December 1, 2009 at 5:24 pm | permalink |
I only recently found your writings – I have a recurring mail search in google for 'Asperger' that returned one of your previous posts. I followed you on Twitter and you followed me back, thanks. Anyway, I have a really hard time coping with those routines and massive paperwork requirements too. This is especially ironic because I depend on grants to find my research and that's nothing but endless, mindless paperwork.
I'm not so sure that the 16-year olds negotiating the DMW are 'gifted and talented.' I think G&Ts would get lost in the DMV maze as well. These kids are probably 'normal' (neuro-typical) (whatever *that* is) and that's how they function. They pick up on all those 'clues' people keep telling me about.
Posted by Hal on December 1, 2009 at 5:31 pm | permalink |
Those fingers can be addictive, can't they?
http://picasaweb.google.com/john.w.ross/Public?feat=directlink
Posted by TwistedByKnaves on December 1, 2009 at 5:50 pm | permalink |
I love your summary! This is true for all things. Getting people in your life who can do things you cannot is what everyone needs. In fact, that's the key to success. Those who are best at it get the farthest.
-Meg
Posted by Meg Bear on December 1, 2009 at 5:57 pm | permalink |
Thank you for this, Penelope. It embodies your greatest strengths even as you share your weakness. It is very moving in its honesty and vulnerability.
Posted by Amy on December 1, 2009 at 6:20 pm | permalink |
When you Google, Google self-harm instead of self-mutilate. Also, you might try to come up with some other keywords.
Example – Here's an article in The Guardian titled "Doctors are 'failing to spot Asperger's in girls'" – http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/apr/12/autism-aspergers-girls .
Posted by Mark W. on December 1, 2009 at 6:23 pm | permalink |
And I just wonder, how could your mother not have held you close to her for a very long time?
Posted by LPC on December 1, 2009 at 7:50 pm | permalink |
What an ignorant thing to say. This comment takes me back to when my son was in middle school, and his teachers had that same type of thinking. They have no excuse. They're supposed to know what Asperger's is and how it affects their students. Let's assume you're not a teacher, and probably not an adult, perhaps someone with out much education. So many people make commentary on Asperger's without even bothering to read up on it first. There's a reason for it being referred to as an "invisible disability."
Aspies can be expert at many things, but totally inept at others. A kid with the learning difference may know the names and stats of every major league baseball player going back decades, but not know the rules of the game, nor have any interest in ever going to a game. My son was a straight 'A' student all through school, but could only perform on exams that required memorization of facts. Ask him to synthesize that knowledge, and carry it over to another situation, and you'll totally lose him. And he'll probably burst into tears and have a panic attack. He could sing an entire album of music before he was two, but couldn't tie his shoes in under five minutes until he was ten.
Yes, Asperger's is difficult to comprehend, but don't criticize people just because YOU don't get it. I'm betting you're not feeling great right now about someone calling you ignorant, childish, and uneducated, and just because it doesn't make sense to you.
Posted by MamaMia on May 19, 2010 at 10:56 am | permalink |
So, you can't tell left from right, but yet you can be the CEO of Internet start-ups.
And you didn't know that the VIN is on the car, even though that's a basic standard in any data model/relational database, which you would know if you were really doing all the IT work you claimed to have done.
I'm starting to think that your stuff doesn't add up.
Posted by ziggy on December 1, 2009 at 7:59 pm | permalink |
Okay, so you have 3 routes you can follow without getting lost in your hometown. Yet, to see your farmer, you have to take a route from Madison to Darlington, which has several twists and turns, small state routes, etc., ending in a rural area…
It doesn't seem to add up …
Posted by ziggy on December 1, 2009 at 9:17 pm | permalink |
Ziggy: A Vehicle Identification Number is a basic standard in any data model/relational database?
So if I have a database on geographical or financial data, that still includes VIN? Are you sure you're not talking about basic primary keys?
Even if relational databases contained VIN (which some definetly do), why should that knowledge help someone to find his/her VIN on their car?
Posted by Jan on December 2, 2009 at 2:45 am | permalink |
But lots of people can't tell left from right, and can function. Don't forget–none of PT"s companies have ever been successful.
Nothing adds up. There's no standard test for any disorder on the autism spectrum, so you can be as disabled as you claim to be.
Posted by Belinda Gomez on December 3, 2009 at 3:39 pm | permalink |
Since my brother really does have Asperger's, I can say with confidence that there is a perceivable difference between Asperger's and the neurotypical population. I have also worked with people with full blown autism, and I can again say there is a difference. I do agree that the diagnostic criteria for Autism spectrum disorders is a bit broad and may warrant splitting into more distinct disorders, that still does not mean that anyone can claim it. As someone with ADD and social anxiety disorder, I would easily be able to claim some Autism related disorder under your criteria, yet I have been evaluated and diagnosed and distinctly neurotypical in this regard.
While I can't say for certain if Penelope does have Asperger's, the fact that she seems to stick her foot in her mouth with almost every post is indicative of Asperger's.
Posted by Anthony on December 3, 2009 at 8:47 pm | permalink |
Damn, Belinda. You really feel the need to kick Pen in the teeth.
Posted by Paul on December 7, 2009 at 5:01 pm | permalink |
Ziggy, when did she ever say that she was an IT genius. I do recall her trying to start an online employment consultancy, but I do not recall her ever trying to start an IT firm proper. Her company was run through the internet, but it did not produce anything technological.
She would not have to be an 'IT Genius' to come up with or found such a company as the web was simply the medium through which business was conducted. She would simply have to hire people with the proper skill set to implement the technological backend to power the business. If this were not the case, then none of my clients would have their site's because they weren't 'IT Geniuses.'
Posted by Anthony on December 3, 2009 at 8:52 pm | permalink |
@Ziggy and Belinda,
Thanks! Those are exactly my points: Well-written post, but so inconsistent with the persona:
No planning skills (how hard is it to check if this transaction can be done online?);
No delegation skills (with house manager/office assistant, etc., why not just delegate this?)
Worse than anything, no self-awareness of her difficulties handling tasks, ending up being both inefficient and ineffective.
The claims of Asperger's/Dislexia do not change the fact that you need some basic skills to become an entrepreneur. This story sounds a little to close to James Frey to comfort.
Btw, and trying to help: if the transaction that initiated the post was something that could not be delegated (i.e. changing the picture); the story would have been believable. These type of details are something a writer should take into account.
Posted by Melania Rosseau on December 6, 2009 at 7:11 am | permalink |
What an ignorant thing to say. This comment takes me back to when my son was in middle school, and his teachers had that same type of thinking. They have no excuse. They're supposed to know what Asperger's is and how it affects their students. Let's assume you're not a teacher, and probably not an adult, perhaps someone with out much education. So many people make commentary on Asperger's without even bothering to read up on it first. There's a reason for it being referred to as an "invisible disability."
Aspies can be expert at many things, but totally inept at others. A kid with the learning difference may know the names and stats of every major league baseball player going back decades, but not know the rules of the game, nor have any interest in ever going to a game. My son was a straight 'A' student all through school, but could only perform on exams that required memorization of facts. Ask him to synthesize that knowledge, and carry it over to another situation, and you'll totally lose him. And he'll probably burst into tears and have a panic attack. He could sing an entire album of music before he was two, but couldn't tie his shoes in under five minutes until he was ten.
Yes, Asperger's is difficult to comprehend, but don't criticize people just because YOU don't get it. I'm betting you're not feeling great right now about someone calling you ignorant, childish, and uneducated, and just because it doesn't make sense to you. This comment is intended for the poster who made the comment about working in IT or being a CEO.
Posted by MamaMia on May 19, 2010 at 10:59 am | permalink |
Penelope, your struggle understanding maths is a condition called dyscalculia. I worry you are giving people the impression that dyscalculia is just part of Aspergers. They may often go together, but they are separate things.
Posted by Iris on December 1, 2009 at 8:25 pm | permalink |
Oh. Yeah. I forgot about that. Thank you for clarifying. I've linked to it a few times in Wikipedia, and in this post, I linked to the post where I learn that it's dyscalculia. But I think it's a subset of dyslexia, yes?
Anyway, it often comes with Asperger's.
And, in terms of the airport story, it's a lot easier to tell the person at the airport that I have dyslexia. They know what that is, and I get the help I need. If I say dyscalculia, I'll have a harder time getting help.
Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on December 1, 2009 at 10:40 pm | permalink |
Absolutely, most people have never heard of dyscalculia.
Also, describing it as a subset of dyslexia is misleading. I think that's why you're getting the comments with helpful math tips. People don't understand that dyscalculia is not just about numbers flying around. I work in a lab that studies dyscalculia (though not me personally). A lot of mathematical reasoning is related to spatial reasoning, and with dyscalculia, that's where the heart of the matter lies. Hence the left-right confusion, and the map-reading issue. The idea is you are missing the 'mental number line' that most people have.
Posted by Iris on December 2, 2009 at 2:15 am | permalink |
I had never heard of dyscalculia until I read this post. I just googled it and I'm thinking that sounds like me. I do not have Asperger's and I am not dyslexic, but I get my left and right confused – I have little tricks I use to remember – and I'm awful at math, could never memorize multiplication tables. I use the same routes when driving, even going out of my way, because I can't follow maps or intuitively figure out which way to go. I get lost going to places I've been to many times before. I also have trouble with spatial relations – I have no idea if something is a foot or a yard away from me. Is that dyscalculia?
Posted by prklypr on December 2, 2009 at 11:15 am | permalink |
I'm not going to tell you it's 'not acceptable' to say that sometimes you wish you could anorexic for a short time. It's up to you to decide what's acceptable for you or not. But I will say that I think you're on your own with that. I have never wished I were anorexic, even for a limited amount of time (which isn't possible anyway). And although I can't see inside the head of every other woman, I don't think it's a particularly common desire among adult females. Teenage girls who don't know better, maybe.
Posted by Caitlin on December 1, 2009 at 9:00 pm | permalink |
Well my guess is that the underlying statement was, that some women will sometimes think about (not necessarily undertake!) drastic measures when it comes to weight loss, no matter what the consequences may be.
It is my belief that everyone thinks similar things sometimes, but about different topics (think about drugs to feel good, alcohol to numb pain, speeding to get a rush, cheating on your spouse to achieve a different kind of satisfaction…)
Posted by Jan on December 2, 2009 at 2:52 am | permalink |
Caitlin and all others, it was a figure of speech get over it. Like no one ever wanted to get a bad cold to drop five lbs? Please.
Posted by Cat in Boston on December 1, 2009 at 9:02 pm | permalink |
I'm already over it… but if you think it wasn't meant literally, then clearly we haven't been reading the same blog. I have been reading PT a long (probably read every single post on this blog) and I'm pretty sure I know when something is just a figure of speech or not.
Posted by Caitlin on December 1, 2009 at 9:24 pm | permalink |
Using long subtraction to figure out your age makes it harder on yourself that it needs to be. The trick is shorter, simpler subtractions and additions. If you were born in 1966, you were 4 in 1970. That means you were 34 in 2000. That means you're 43 in 2009 (unless your birthday is coming up in the next month, in which case you're still 42).
Posted by Caitlin on December 1, 2009 at 9:26 pm | permalink |
Okay. Seriously. This paragraph has eight numbers in it. There is now way that it is a simplification when there are eight numbers.
I know you are trying to help, Caitlin. I know because you are one of those commenters who is insightful and compassionate all the time on this blog, so why should this comment be different?
But it is not helpful, and I think if I tell you why then other people will understand better how to help.
A good way to help someone like me is not to say "Here's a trick for subtraction" because the numbers are flying for me no matter how they are on the page — they even fly for me in that paragraph you wrote. By the same token, it doesn't help to say, "Here's a trick for left and right" because it's the concept I don't understand, not which hand is L and which is R.
The helpful thing in this post was "why don't you have an assistant register your car?" That's really helpful.
Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on December 1, 2009 at 10:37 pm | permalink |
Penelope,
This sounds like a really hard day. I had no idea bureaucracy could feel like this for people with Asperger's, and I appreciate that you shared it.
Also, even though you told us not to, there's something you need to know about anorexia, because you don't seem to know it, and it makes that comment of yours inaccurate and frustrating for people like me to read, who've had friends and family suffer from anorexia. (I'm not fat, by the way.) Anorexia is not about wanting to be thin. For some people, it's about wanting to have something they control; but for many people, it's about feeling that you don't deserve food — or anything at all, really — because you're a terrible person.
I know that was a throwaway aside for you in this post, but every time someone says they wish they had anorexia, I think of my cousin Kerry a few years ago — down to 80 lbs, too small for size zero clothes, and in the hospital — and how helpless I felt about being able to convince her know she was precious and important.
Anyway, in sum, I think you're precious and important too, and I hope you have less days like the one you wrote about, and I also hope you never develop anorexia. It isn't easier to handle.
Love your blog!
Posted by Rachel on December 1, 2009 at 10:13 pm | permalink |
Very well said!
Posted by Melissa on December 2, 2009 at 6:24 pm | permalink |
" I have found, in adult life, that bureaucracy only gets deeper and deeper, and for someone like me, with Asperger Syndrome, the rules, numbers and conversations that bureaucracy entails is completely overwhelming: IRS, health insurance, 401Ks, I actually have no idea how people cope with this stuff"
I really don't either. For the longest time I thought I was the crazy person that could not deal with being a grown-up. It is quite relieving to know I'm not the only one. Thank you for sharing this. I'm sure your candid accounts will lead many to seek help and (hopefully) those around them to be more patient and understanding.
Practical tip: in California, there are DMV registry services – you call them up, they come to you, figure out what you need, get your paperwork and file for you, for about a $25 fee. More than worth it if you ask me. Even if you have to be at the DMV in person, they'll arrange everything else for you. I don't know if you would have this in Wisconsin, or rather, in your small town – but it never hurts to check. Turnkey services are the way to go.
Posted by Marcy on December 2, 2009 at 1:25 am | permalink |
I personally would rather have the flu for a week than anorexia. The flu gets over and you lost the 10 lbs., but with anorexia, you have to go on to pay for long-term therapy.
Seriously, your post is going to help me be a better bookstore clerk. [My first job was typing drivers licenses at the DMV (ha ha!).] Just knowing that different people have different challenges reminds me to be more compassionate toward everyone. And as your loyal independent bookstore clerk, when I screw up this holiday season, please have pity on me in return.
Posted by EllenSka on December 2, 2009 at 3:02 am | permalink |
The last paragraph was such a nice, adorable touch. I got the impression that your partner is the "anchor" in your life that makes you feel you can always come back to a place physically/emotionally.
Posted by Isao on December 2, 2009 at 4:03 am | permalink |
Lucky her, then, to have a partner. Some of us have neither the self-confidence nor the confidence in others to get to that point. I say men have it particularly hard, because without confidence we're not attractive to anybody.
Posted by Paul on December 7, 2009 at 5:04 pm | permalink |
I had the same ocurrence many years ago with a plate sticker that expired earliler than I realized when I bought a car from a dealership. We had recently moved from another part of the country where the motor vehicle process is different. Unfortunately, it was our son (late teens)who got pulled over by the police and who got the ticket.
So off I went to the local court house where I had to plead my son'e case – read my stupidity – before a judge. He was pretty cool and dropped the fine to $10 and ensured that my sons would not get whacked any points.
But during our two-hour in the waiting, it was interesting to see all the weirdos arrive. One young teen was admitting to death threats, others had done even dumber things than me with their cars. Lesson learned: pay attention to your licence plate.
Posted by Jim on December 2, 2009 at 6:35 am | permalink |
a terrific and funny post written with an acute detail and chronology that gives the reader the experience of Aspergers. One of your best posts. you have a gift for conveying the humor and poignancy of our humanity.
Posted by bindu wiles on December 2, 2009 at 7:14 am | permalink |
Also in California if you below to the Auto Club (AAA) you can go there and they will help you with all your car registration issues. I haven't gone to the DMV to register my car in years. In fact, by going to AAA, we pay our car registration and get our tags immediately instead of waiting for weeks to get them in the mail. Since they aren't a government agency, and they want your business, all their customer service representatives are very, very helpful.
Now to your anorexia comment. First I think you put comments like is in your blog to "shock" people to get reactions. I was very angry about this "throw away" statement. I am one of those fat people you mentioned but I have never in my fat life wished I could be anorexic. Have bad cold or the flu yes of course. To me that statement is like saying I wish I could have spent a few months in a concentration camp – hey that's a good way to lose weight too. So I guess your readers are just supposed to chalk up that comment to your having Asperger's and say – that's the reason you can make such a dumb statement. Goes with your lack of social understand so hey give her a break. I'm sorry but you're a high powered individual, you've been very successful in your life — what you say can make a big impact on people. So I'd caution you to please be bit more careful. Anorexic individuals already believe that they aren't doing anything wrong, they don't need someone like you to reinforce their life threatening behavior. Remember people admire you.
Posted by Monica Lond-LeBlanc on December 2, 2009 at 7:28 am | permalink |
Penelope, your comment about the Iliad strikes a note with me. As an adult with ADD, I often feel like I missed some "secret" that everyone else knows… so I often find myself a day late and a dollar short.
Posted by D on December 2, 2009 at 7:40 am | permalink |
For what it's worth, I do really well in bureaucracy…so well I have thought about starting a business to help out people like you. But the angriest and closest to losing control of myself I have ever gotten was at the DMV. That place is crazy-making for even the most socially functional individual. I'm proud you made it through, but next time, take someone else with you who can do everything including telling you where to sign and when to hand over your credit card.
Posted by Melissa on December 2, 2009 at 8:11 am | permalink |
Penelope,
There is no G&T DMV; we're all complete idiots when it comes to the DMV. The entire process was designed by underachivers in High School to get back at everyone else they perceived were out to get them. ;)
~ Scott
Posted by Scott Woodard on December 2, 2009 at 8:18 am | permalink |
I don't have Asperger's but I can totally relate to being distracted: As I’m driving to work this morning, I hear a really good, new song that I want to look up when I get to work to see who the artist is. That’s because for some reason, my XM radio wasn’t showing the artist or the song this morning. So I don’t know the name of the song, or the artist. It sounds like it might be Natalie Grant. And by the repeating lyrics, I figure I can Google them and determine the song and artist.
So all during the 15 minute drive to work, I’m repeating those snippets of lyrics to myself, because if I can just repeat them often enough, I won’t forget them between the commute and the getting settled into work. But in the interim, I’m still listening to other songs. Ooh, there’s a MercyMe song. And next, a Chris Tomlin song. I love both of them! Wait, I still remember most of the new song. Most is better than none. Was it King of Heaven or Heavenly King? Oh well, I remember the next part – Breathe on me, Light my way. Or was it Light my way, Breathe on Me?
Finally I get to work, walk in, sign in, plug my laptop in, read some email…was there something I was going to look up? Yeah, that song! What was it now?
Sigh…..Nothing of any kind (not Natalie Grant) turns up and I’ve completely misremembered the lyrics.
Re: the anorexia comment, I totally get that too. I've thought that before myself, and I am definitely overweight.
Your last paragraph was just precious.
Posted by Deb on December 2, 2009 at 8:29 am | permalink |
This is the story of my life, only I can't articulate it like you do. I just melt down.
The important thing when you have Asperger’s is not to be able to do stuff you can’t do, but to surround yourself with people who can.
This is one of the major reasons I got married and my husband is such a doll he doesn't even mind it. He knows it's true. Somehow, he understands the incongruity of my ability to run a successful business, or rebuilding a PC in an afternoon but getting a post office box or having utilities connected at the office, guarantees trauma and an ensuing evening of sedation. That's assuming a lot, that the job would be done in a day. You're lucky. My recent DMV experience took two months and practically required a personal intervention from the governor.
Posted by Kathleen on December 2, 2009 at 9:16 am | permalink |
Oh man, I loved this post SO MUCH. I am always telling people that it's "exhausting being me," and I say it half-jokingly (I mask a lot of anxiety and self-doubt/loathing with humor)because I can't seem to "get my life in order." But this is really how my life is, too – and it's effing EXHAUSTING. I feel like sending this to my family – they will immediately recognize so much of what you've written as stuff I do all the time.
Hang in there sister.
Posted by Kari on December 2, 2009 at 9:32 am | permalink |
PT: I don't have Asperger's, but I have experienced some of the same challenges due to a head injury from a car accident a few years ago. I have a whole new appreciation for the people I used to consider "disorganized" or "clueless."
I think you would enjoy this post on a recent experience I had with renewing my driving license. [http://www.editormum.com/2009/09/12/impossible-days/] When I was reading your account of your experience at the DMV, I was reminded of my own experience. I don't know why those places have to be so complex and maze-like. And now that I suffer from panic attacks and agoraphobia, it's a torture for me to have to deal with situations and places like the DMV.
I'm glad you have the Farmer and the Ryans to help you navigate the insanity.
Posted by Editormum on December 2, 2009 at 9:38 am | permalink |
Wow. I just had a huge surge of sympathy for you, and for me. Not because of your perceived challenges, but because of your total identification with being asperger's syndrom, and my buying into it as well. I am really sorry for seeing you, and anyone else with whatever they're perceived "challenges" happen to be, as less than whole. Thanks for the article.
Posted by lucinda on December 2, 2009 at 10:42 am | permalink |
In WI they actually allow you to title/register a car at those emission testing places – that's what I did to avoid the confusion of the DMV.
Just giving you some car knowledge…
But from now on, you can just do it online, much easier!
Posted by K on December 2, 2009 at 10:44 am | permalink |
Reading this post was just like reading an exciting short story- plus I could connect with so many parts of it, it felt comforting to know that there's another person out there that has 3 well-known routes they usually take( so many people cannot understand this),someone who is not able, in the blink of an eye, to tell left from right, and on top of all this, someone who is NOT perfectly organized, and YES, can survive this way.
All the more reason to continue visiting your blog!
Posted by Anca C on December 2, 2009 at 11:23 am | permalink |
Beautiful post. I had no idea how much aspergers can affect all these little interractions that I take for granted. I hope you find ways and tools to help make all these challenges easier and smoother. I agree with the poster who says that the farmer seems like an anchor for you.
Posted by ioana on December 2, 2009 at 11:26 am | permalink |
I pick my cuticles, too. It's a horrible, embarassing habit, but I sort of enjoy the actual picking. It's calming.
I used to be anorexic, and the picking is so, so much better. The thoughts that go along wiht anorexia are so terrible that I wouldn't wish it on anyone, not even for a few days.
Posted by Operation Pink Herring on December 2, 2009 at 11:36 am | permalink |
This is such an interesting comment. I love that you can tell us, with first hand knowledge, which is worse. I believe you. But I want to know, what are the terrible thoughts? Like, what thoughts do you have when you are anorexic and what thoughts do you have when you pick your cuticles.
Oh. I hope you'll come back and write an answer…
-Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on December 2, 2009 at 12:50 pm | permalink |
I'm not "Operation Pink Herring" — but I can tell you that small-scale fixations like picking cuticles tend to be a means of managing stress in a slightly thoughtless way — self-soothing, almost.
The thoughts of anorexia tend to involve wide-spread self-hatred, full-time obsession with food and control and how whether you eat the second half of that piece of bread means you are a very, very bad and weak person.
Posted by Caroline on December 2, 2009 at 2:34 pm | permalink |
Caroline described it very well.
Using food and exercise as a way to punish yourself.
Posted by Melissa on December 2, 2009 at 6:46 pm | permalink |
I love you too. Thank you for all your work. Keep writing, because everytime it rings bells for me and for my son. You help us navigate life.
I loved Go Dog Go too.
Posted by Joyce on December 2, 2009 at 11:54 am | permalink |
> There's just no good reason for this comment.
> Why tell someone that they're full of crap?
Because the truth shall set you free.
Posted by Johnny on December 2, 2009 at 12:26 pm | permalink |
Just don't get too complacent about what "the truth" is. It can come back to bite you in the butt.
Posted by Paul on December 7, 2009 at 5:07 pm | permalink |
Hey Pee, I've got one for your blog: try crashing a White House dinner and then claiming you have an invite. Try it, who knows? Maybe you'll get a reality show out of it.
Posted by John on December 2, 2009 at 12:27 pm | permalink |
P, you are a delight to read, even though I am reading of your misfortune! Plus…I think my husband may have Asperger's or something along that line and you are describing the things he uses to cope with (probably) dyslexia and math anxiety – subterfuge, compensation, distraction, and the comfort of soothing addictions like coffee at the gas station. He always gets to the airport hours early, hands me the check to add the tip and has to pay bills when they arrive for lack of strategizing.
I have panic disorder and I have a terrible time with social anxiety at the DMV and other official buildings. I once had an appointment and teh people in line didn't and it became an angry mob scene. I thought I'd die of embarrassment! When I see a police car, I think I may be arrested (too much Kafka?) Thanks for making my life feel less unusual.
Posted by Diana on December 2, 2009 at 1:01 pm | permalink |
Darn! I forgot to subscribe to comments, so I'm back, sorry.
Posted by Diana on December 2, 2009 at 1:02 pm | permalink |
Dear Penelope,
I've never been a joiner of clubs, or been involved in group therapy, or been a member of AA, or any gathering where people break down into public honesty. So perhaps I'm naive about what can happen when someone like yourself puts her soul on the line and speaks uncensored truth. Perhaps the outpouring of sympathy and raw anger happens a lot more than I suspect. And reading this blog, an old dream of mine is being rekindled – that given enough honesty, people will generally respond in kind. And be kind.
And so what I'm seeing here, is an admission from so many of us, that we don't have control over our personal lives. No surprise there. And very few of us feel secure about that. In fact, most of us are really scared about that. And it's comforting to see how many people are admitting how scared we all are, even through angry words. Admission of fear is uniting us, in a good way.
But even so, I gave up the idea of world peace a long time ago. But as I mentioned, part of me has NOT given up on a Community of Peace…and love…and understanding. And I know I'm getting sentimental, but so is life. And so is Brazen Careerist. And so are you, Penelope Trunk. And I don't believe you should give up one inch of that. Because in this tiny pocket of the Universe, you are forming a community of truth. And we can't let that get away.
Irv P.
Posted by Irv Podolsky on December 2, 2009 at 1:17 pm | permalink |
Wow! You completely opened my eyes. I mean, holy shit, i never knew it was like this for somebody with Asperger's. A good friend of my wife has Asperger's, and I now realize how lame and unsympathetic I have been. Honestly, I had no idea. Thank you for sharing.
Posted by Matt on December 2, 2009 at 1:28 pm | permalink |
Thanks for this – I have more compassion and greater understanding about Asperger's. Good fix at the airport. It's important for companies to make workplace accommodations so things like the math and bureaucracy situation don't cause them to miss out on excellent people.
Posted by Marsha Keeffer on December 2, 2009 at 2:01 pm | permalink |
Of course, remember that the excellent are the enemy of the merely good. Bureaucracy exists for reasons, number one being that I got mine and I'm damned if I'm gonna let you get yours.
Posted by Paul on December 7, 2009 at 5:09 pm | permalink |
My first thought was "Didn't you know you could find the VIN on the car?" Glad someone answered that. I have not been to the DMV in years because of the stress that it causes me. I can actually feel my body temperature rising at the irritation and frustration I often felt towards the employees! Your post reminds me so much of my day as a divorced mom of 3. Somehow your post was comforting in a weird sort of way.
Posted by Tina Fortune on December 2, 2009 at 2:02 pm | permalink |
I find it hard to believe that you have Asperger's. I definitely do not, yet I also hate going to the DMV, find it overwhelming and confusing, and I pick my cuticles (nervousness). My brother has Asperger's and he cannot connect with people (you were married and are in a relationship) could not keep a job (you do not seem to have a problem with this) and could never, ever have the organizational skills to execute this blog. Being overwhelmed at the DMV and biting you nails do not qualify you as having a syndrome.
Posted by Naomi on December 2, 2009 at 3:51 pm | permalink |
Hey, Naomi! I've been diagnosed with Asperger's since I was a little kid, and I am also capable of handling some employment and maintaining a web presence. In fact, did you know that Aspergers is part of the Autism Spectrum? It's called "spectrum" because we all have a spectrum of needs, strengths and problems. So it's actually a countryproductive and douchebag move to use one person's symptoms/experiences to tell someone else that they're "not really disabled". In fact, it's pretty insulting to imply that they're not "disabled enough" for you.
Since you're allistic, please don't presume you know more about this than an autistic person does.
Posted by Steeple on November 23, 2011 at 5:46 pm | permalink |
Hey, Naomi! I've been diagnosed with Asperger's since I was a little kid, and I am also capable of handling some employment and maintaining a web presence. In fact, did you know that Aspergers is part of the Autism Spectrum? It's called "spectrum" because we all have a spectrum of needs, strengths and problems. So it's actually a countryproductive and douchebag move to use one person's symptoms/experiences to tell someone else that they're "not really disabled". In fact, it's pretty insulting to imply that they're not "disabled enough" for you.
Since you're allistic, please don't presume you know more about this than an autistic person does.
Posted by Steeple on November 23, 2011 at 5:46 pm | permalink |
Naomi, Penelope does not need anyone to give her a diagnosis or dispute her diagnosis. Have you read any of her other posts? And you only picked out two incidents from the whole post; there were plenty more (getting lost on the way home; stopping and getting coffee, etc.). I just felt I had to respond to your post. She is high-functioning in many aspects of her life, but she writes about many things in which she has troubles, due to Aspergers.
Posted by Deb on December 2, 2009 at 3:58 pm | permalink |
PT's Aspergers is based solely on her own diagnosis. Last I checked, she's not an MD, PhD, MSW or anything remotely related to someone who can make this diagnosis competently. I can't believe how many readers believe her just because she says so.
Melania Rosseau–right on.
Posted by Belinda Gomez on December 18, 2009 at 10:18 pm | permalink |
This story makes me think twice as a special education teacher whom is responsible for teaching students with disabilities that makes it impossible for them to do tasks as their same age peers do.
Each day I work with students that struggle with skills that their non-disabled peers have acheived at a much earlier age.
Posted by Lisa on December 2, 2009 at 4:26 pm | permalink |
This comment is shocking, not for it's content but for the claim that it was written by a teacher – the first sentence makes absolutely no sense and is riddled with gramatical errors. A special education teacher, no less.
Posted by prklypr on December 3, 2009 at 9:58 am | permalink |
Great post, Penelope.
Posted by dennis on December 2, 2009 at 5:52 pm | permalink |
Seriously, Penelope. I like your blogs and I have read quite a few, but lay off the fat comments. You make such rude, assinine comments about that. Yes, I am someone who has to work out and watch what i eat very closely to stay healthy. "its always the fat people who are sensitive"
Perhaps you purposefully aim to be offensive and mean. If so, how lame. Find a different population to be crappy too, because dont worry, overweight people get it enough.
Posted by Sarah on December 2, 2009 at 9:21 pm | permalink |
…like her blog *posts*. blog.penelopetrunk.com is a single blog. Sorry that's a pet-peeve of mine.
Posted by Heather on December 3, 2009 at 10:46 am | permalink |
Hilarious post! My EX husband has Asperger's so I'm very interested in everything you write about it. You help me understand it better even though it's belated understanding. The DMV is not a fun place for any of us. Yes, Jill, "Life with people is hard". Go, dog, go!
Posted by Ruth on December 2, 2009 at 10:08 pm | permalink |
Directed to Ms. Trunk, some relatively (and uncharacteristically) short comments on a few matters broached here…
"I know your first inclination is to say that I’m an idiot for waiting until the end of November. But I really, really cannot deal with bureaucracy."
It sounds as if you need to be more proactive in how you approach or avoid bureaucratic encounters, from the start. *My* first inclination is to say that personal responsibility must enter the narrative at some point. I suspect that this is the place for it.
"The numbers on top always feel like they are flying and I can’t keep track of them and I’ll never get the math problem right. At least not right now. So I guess."
If your computational competence (so to speak) is so low, then you are in dire need of a support; an ever-present personal assistant, a plethora of ever-available contacts, a finely tuned system for reference, or some equally radical solution is called for. Again, despite being clichéd thanks to California overuse, you need to be more proactive (and prescient) regarding these obstacles. Follow the Delphic precept, plan accordingly, and act accordingly.
"This is not easy. I can’t read a map, and I don’t know left and right, so I can’t follow verbal directions… For me, it’s not about the fastest route, it’s about not having to follow a new one."
More problems where deliberateness is called for in your planning and decision-making. While hardly a panacea, it *will* allow you to ascertain over time which obstacles you should attend to on your own, and which require more substantial support.
"I don’t know why I say this, because just getting the words out gives me so much stress that I think I’m going to have diarrhea right there on the spot."
I find this is unfortunate vindication of my earlier suggestions.
Regarding the claims and arguments about anorexia…
"Do not tell me this is not acceptable to say."
If you were merely describing your own thoughts and feelings, I would salute you. Even transparency of the most brutal sort is commendable. But, alas…
"It’s always the fat people who say that."
This is at least one of two very bad things: Charitably interpreted, it is a painfully obtuse "sociology of knowledge" type of argument; less charitably, it is an embarrassing *ad hominem* that demands you be called out.
"Because really everyone wishes they could be anorexic for a few days, just to get their weight down."
The embarrassing forms of argumentation continue. Interpreted charitably, you are still speaking for others — something I would hope is below you. Less charitably, you fell into the genetic fallacy again.
"I’m just wishing I could be anorexic for the days that I’m picking at my cuticles. The food thing is so much more socially acceptable."
Your rigorous attention to the socially acceptable comes at the expense of perspective, and tells the tale all on its own. I must apply the descriptor being batted around in the prior comments, namely, "immature."
Doubtless, it was an intriguing post, but those aforementioned remarks detract greatly from its finer qualities. You do yourself a grave disservice, and make yourself far less sympathetic.
Posted by William Bruce on December 2, 2009 at 10:12 pm | permalink |
Your last line pretty much says it all, whether you have Asperger's or not. Because silly and cliche as it seems, we really do need a village.
I really don't want to do it all by myself, DIYers be damned!
Those with learning challenges — OCD, ADHD, Asperger's, etc. — have life harder than most, in part because no one else knows what to do with people with learning challenges.
Posted by Kat Wilder on December 2, 2009 at 10:56 pm | permalink |
Amen. I, to, am and ENF/TP and constantly get myself appointed the one and only person to do something with the bureaucracy. The problem with that is it's neverending. I go round and round through agencies and departments till I find the right one and someone who can solve the problem. It is confusing, frustrating, and very very time consuming. Worse, it is so complicated and incestuous that it is impossible to hand off to anyone.
Posted by Farley on August 5, 2011 at 8:27 am | permalink |
The premise of this post is off: tons of DMV transactions can be done online. Yet a busy-and savvy internet person, who can't deal with red tape, and with assistants galore, decides to go waste a day at the DMV. It doesn't make sense.
Witty writing, though.
Posted by JJ on December 3, 2009 at 8:14 am | permalink |
Ah, that's the fun of Aspergers – the way we think doesn't always make sense, both to others, and to ourselves. Logic & common sense often escape us. Yes, it doesn't make sense, but we can't really change that…
Posted by ictus75 on December 12, 2011 at 1:33 am | permalink |
You made me feel not so alone. I have the same level of confusing but it's from my diabetes and other meds. I get so frustrated that I've learned to tell people I have a hearing problem so they speak slowly and repeat themselves. It makes them feel better and I'm able to translate their words. Thank you!
Posted by Jamie on December 3, 2009 at 12:29 pm | permalink |
Reading the beginning of this post STRESSED me OUT and made my heart speed up I empathized so deeply. I couldn' even finish it b/c I was getting so anxious. I don't have Asperger's (as far as I know) but I'm an ENTP and I think it has to do with that and growing up in an Alcoholic family.
I also can't tell left from right and get completely OVERWELMED when confronted with burocracy, I dropped out of college b/c of not knowing how to file for graduation or write petitions. I have a speeding ticket right now, that I can't find and it is stressing me out EVERY DAY. I don't have a partner who can help with this stuff. WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP OURSELVES?
Posted by Julia on December 3, 2009 at 1:02 pm | permalink |
I have ADD and your description reminded me a lot of the organizational issues I deal with.
Very well-written! Hopefully this will help some people that are perfectly organize understand us scatter-brains!
Posted by Renee on December 3, 2009 at 3:30 pm | permalink |