It’s time to admit that Take Your Child to Work Day is an outdated relic of 1970s feminism, and we can put the whole thing to rest.
Do you remember that the day started as Take Our Daughters to Work? It was the 70s, and women wanted their daughters to know that they could do anything. Here’s what came of that era: Latchkey kids who never saw their parents after school except on Take Our Daughters to Work Day. And, then later, those same little girls grew up to feel intense pressure to put work before kids which ushered in the biggest fertility train wreck in history, with Gen X thinking it would be fine to wait until after 30 to have kids.
So I have a bad taste in my mouth from the era of Take Our Daughters to Work. But then we had the era of boys underperforming. That’s right: Boys are doing so much worse than girls in school that it’s officially easier to get into college if you’re a boy (scores are lower and so are GPAs) and once these kids enter the workforce, girls make more than boys do.
So some probably-drumming, angry, white male decided that it shouldn’t just be daughters. It should be sons, too. So now we have Take Your Child to Work.
But here’s what I want to know: Why?
This holiday now strikes me as one similar to Secretaries Day, which is a relic from the days when there were no computers and secretaries had thankless jobs and the men who were having sex with them on the side always forgot to thank her in the spotlight for the typing, so there is an official reminder day to buy her a card. That made sense. Twenty years ago.
Which is why it reminds me of Take Your Child to Work Day.
You know what else reminds me of this special day? The Week of the Young Child. Seriously. It was last week. Did you celebrate? Of course you did. Because every week is the week of the young child, because if you don’t focus on young children they die. They eat bleach or get bitten by a squirrel or run over by a car.
The reason the Week of the Young Child reminds me of Take Your Child to Work Day is because, at this point, every day is taking children to work. I’m on my Blackberry all the time, and my division between work and kids is very tenuous. This is pretty common for my generation. And I think we’re pretty happy with it – or we’d stop. So it’s pretty clear to me that we don’t need a day for kids being at work because they get exposed to their parents working all the time.
And anyway, do you know how annoying kids are for people who do not have kids? It’s already totally over the top how many concessions people with kids get vs. people without kids. My cousin, for example, is a doctor, and when her colleague went on maternity leave early, my cousin was asked to cover for her because everyone in the practice has kids except for my cousin. This is routine behavior in corporate life (I know – I benefit from it all the time at my own company where I’m the only one with kids.)
So what we don’t need is a day when people's kids come into the office, disrupt everyone, eat all the good snacks and use up all the good office supplies. The disruption serves little purpose except to remind people without kids that kids are the center of the universe.
So I think this holiday is BS, and kids understand that they can be anything they want to be, so I don’t see a point in dragging them to work. Which is why I didn’t.
I ignored the holiday last year. And when I picked my son up at school, he said, “It’s Take Children to Work Day. Are you taking me to your work?”
I say, “What? How do you know it’s that day? Who told you?”
“My teachers brought their children to school because school is their work.”
What? Is this legal? My kids are in Madison, WI public schools. Surely it is not legal for teachers to bring their own kids into the classroom.
But before I can decide what to do about this, my son says, “I want to go to your work.”
How can I say no? I try to think of a way, believe me. But I don’t have the heart.
The problem is that there is nothing in my office. Just some books.
So I buy a bunch of cookies from the coffee shop across the street from my office, and I borrow the white board from Photis and magic markers from Ryan Paugh. And my son draws on the board in between bites of cookies.
He says, “Take Your Child to Work Day is boring, let’s go home.”
Maybe this is a victory.










Love the honest assesment of TYCTW, you said what so many people are afraid to say. I, as a, by choice, non-breeder dread they infusion of sugared up children into the office, when I've got work to do.
Posted by Puf on 04/23/2009 at 09:54am | permalink | Reply to this comment
While normally I disagree with most of your more opinionated posts (wait.. which one's arent opinionated?), I have to agree on this one.
If anything, Take Your Kids To Work day only tells them what you've done, not what they can do. We should have them go to work with people doing things they've expressed interests in. I hope my kids never do exactly what I did, but instead do exactly what they dream to do.
Posted by Jeff on 04/23/2009 at 09:55am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Dammit, there should be an edit button.
"aren't"
Posted by Jeff on 04/23/2009 at 09:56am | permalink | Reply to this comment
MyWorkButterfly.com captured Dr. Robi Lugwig and her daughter Jaimie for this special day. MyWorkButterfly.com empowers moms who are relaunching their careers and guides those working mothers who are trying to juggle it all.
Enjoy the video.
http://www.myworkbutterfly.com/video/dr-robi-celebrates-take-your
Bradi Nathan
Co-Founder
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Posted by Bradi on 04/23/2009 at 02:58pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Love it. He went. He saw. He moved on.
Posted by Angie on 04/23/2009 at 09:55am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Damn kids!
This made me laugh :)
Posted by Justin on 04/23/2009 at 09:57am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I dislike Take Your Child To Work day mainly for selfish reasons. It is obnoxious to ask the childless HR pro in your office to determine what a bunch of 7-16 year olds would like to do while their parents get a free pass to screw around during the day. Yes, amazingly I have much more important things to work on other than entertaining somebody else's kid for eight hours.
Like you said though, this day probably meant something and accomplished something at some point in history. I don't think it is doing anything other than saving parents some child care costs.
Posted by Lance Haun on 04/23/2009 at 09:59am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Oh I've seen those child free folk in action. Frankly I think they need a hobby. Oh yes – they have a hobby, which is bickering about how the lives of the people with children are boring, exhausting, too easy, selfish, too selfless, etc etc etc ad nauseam. They constantly brag about how their lives are more interesting then mine and how having a child would put a dumper on their travel plans. I'm sure. They constantly complain about children acting like children – but they themselves act like the worst type of brats.
Even if my child sometimes uses inappropriate tone of voice in a public place, and I know it – I will not defer to these bitter people and their judgement of us.
They can bite me.
Posted by ioana on 04/23/2009 at 09:59am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think you're close enough to biting yourself that you don't need any help…. Parenthood is sure looking good right now.
Posted by MJ on 04/23/2009 at 05:09pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hey, defend this:
http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/list.php?2
Posted by ioana on 2009-04-23 20:47:37 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
Trust me, we child-free shrews don't spend that much time thinking about your, or anybody else's, children. Really not that interesting.
Posted by Hutchie on 04/24/2009 at 12:26pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
At the risk of starting a firestorm akin to the Why I Hate David inferno I am going to say something really controversial. Bleach is usually drunk not eaten.
Posted by LPC on 04/23/2009 at 10:00am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm at work, with my daughter, right now. She's down the hall, playing her DS in somebody's empty office that I'm doing some work in. I had to come back to my office for a second to do something. As soon as I sit down at my computer, to do what I need to do for the person down the hall, my fingers automatically take me to my blogroll, because that's what they do. Every day. And do I want my daughter to know that my fingers take me to my blogroll, every day, while I'm "at work"? No, I do not. This is why I do not like Take Your Child To Work Day. Because I do not want my child to figure out exactly what…uh…"work"…I do at my desk, necessarily, while she is slaving away at school learning how to divide and what "simple machines" are, taking spelling tests, meeting her reading goal for the week. It should be Take Your Child to Your Kickass Job Or Else Stay Away While We Slack Day. I mean, if she got to see me save the world or something, that'd be one thing. But watch me write another blog post? Meh. I'd rather she didn't know, thank you very much. Actually, what I'm doing for the person down the hall is pretty cool, if you care about unified communications and even know what a fax is. But she doesn't. And she couldn't care less. I know, because I tried to explain the relevancy to her. I basically got a big fat "Is it time for lunch yet? Oh, look! I just earned the diamond gem stone by killing Eviltor and now I'm on the top level of this game!" response. Yes, this is an enlightening experience. But not for her. For me…in a does-my-job-totally-suck-and-is-my-kid-THAT-pathetic kind of way. So, yes. I'm with you. Let's abolish this thing. This TYCTWD is not helping either of us.
Posted by gudnuff on 04/23/2009 at 10:27am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I agree, my kids are young and still think I'm a superhero. I want them to enjoy life while they can and not think about how boring Dad's job really is.
Posted by Jonathan on 06/06/2009 at 12:00am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I agree 100%. I was raised in the 80s and 90s by two full-time working parents, and they would sometimes take me to work with them… when I was sick and they couldn't find child care. (My dad was the boss, so no one gave him any grief about having his daughter camp out in his office with him all day). It was incredibly boring, and I don't think I actually learned anything new about what my dad did on the days I spent with him.
That said, I learned plenty about my parents' jobs by visiting them at work for a half-hour here and there, going on family vacations that coincided with professional conferences, meeting their co-workers, and listening to them talk at the dinner table. Parents can teach kids about what it means to have a job and love your work in much more effective ways than spending an entire day with them at the office.
Posted by Ann on 04/23/2009 at 10:46am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This never really made sense to me either, and I was pretty much on the end of the group of people who were supposed to benefit from it, just barely before women started outperforming men at almost everything, which I generally think is due to a shift in the way the world works from benefiting men to benefiting women, but I try not to get into that because most women start hitting me as soon as I do.
Anyway, my mother (software support representative) took me to her cube a few times over the years. It was pretty dull, and I never really enjoyed it, strange that I ended up working in almost the exact same atmosphere that I found so boring as a child. Maybe the whole point was to get me used to the life I could eventually count on.
Maybe it was supposed to be some kinda "enjoy what you have now, because once you grow up, the fun's over" lesson. Maybe she was trying to show me that women had as much opportunity in the "new workplace" as men, a lesson that I don't think I really needed being as I lived with her and I knew perfectly well that a woman could be just as successful and just as good of a role model as a man.
Whatever the lesson of this little ritual was, it was ultimately lost on me.
Posted by Wil Butler on 04/23/2009 at 11:01am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Probably this is my first time commenting, so hi.
My wife and I both grew up in families where we only had a very vague idea of what our fathers actually did for a living… despite living with both parents. I'm sure neither of our fathers' workplaces would have wanted us messing around, but I do kind of wish I knew more about Dad's actual work duties. Maybe it should be "National Ask-Your-Dad-About-Work Day"… only then it'd have to be on a Saturday so that he wouldn't be all mad at us for asking after a long, hard day.
P.S… currently my wife and I are child-free, so yes, the thing about co-workers with kids being annoying as crap is spot on. Thanks for acknowledging it.
Posted by Aylad MacOdys on 04/23/2009 at 11:05am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hi, Aylad. Thanks for the nice debut comment :)
You bring up a great point that how we talk to our kids about our work on a regular basis matters so much more than whether we bring our kids to work for manufactured, inauthentic work-is-for-kids hoopla.
Kids should know the real emotions behind work: Why we make the choices we make, how it feels, what are our hopes and dreams.
-Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on 04/23/2009 at 12:14pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
TYCTWD is useless, and not because it inconvenienced the childfree folks. They can suck it. The only thing TYCTWD accomplished was to assuage some parental guilt. I don't think any children ever came away with an accurate idea of what it was their parents did for a living, and any parent who actually thought their relationship with their child was improved by this time spent together was mistaken.
The feminists who came up with Take Your Daughter Blah Blah are to blame for a whole host of problems. I am of the generation victimized by their ill-thought-out quackery and it's a bit of a mission for me to make sure my daughter is free to make her own decisions based on facts and not the agenda of a movement that was supposedly working to make my life better.
Posted by eliz on 04/23/2009 at 11:12am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I completely agree with you. And I remember when it was "Take your daughter to work day." And I think in may ways the feminists of the 1970s left Gen X women a steaming pile of shit to clean up.
In addition to all the reasons you cited, I do not need to take my girls to work with me, because they already know they can do anything. They were shocked – no SHOCKED – to find out my current boss is a guy. Since they've been born, my husband and I have always had women bosses and we discuss work at the dinner table. I don't even think it occurred to them that bosses could be male.
Posted by GenerationXpert on 04/23/2009 at 11:14am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Taking kids to work confuses me as to who gets my attention. I go to work to escape. If I forget to eat lunch thats ok. But if I have a bratling with me, I have to wear work and Mom hats at the same time.
No thanks, the schools can scrap this one.
Posted by cara on 04/23/2009 at 11:20am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I totally agree. Taking your children to work is skating along the razor's edge of history anyway. How about let your children Tweet with you day instead?
Posted by Sean Platt on 04/23/2009 at 11:21am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I have to try to remember to read your postings as soon as they come up in my reader. Otherwise, I miss half the comments. For some reason I like reading them in my email more than on your site. I don't usually read your postings right away because they are long and they make me think. I need time for yours. My mom was a stay at home mom until I was a teenager then she started a home business. My dad drove a truck. Until the company stopped him for insurance reasons he took us with him on his runs sometimes. It was fun. It didn't make me want to be a truck driver though.
Posted by Carol Saha on 04/23/2009 at 11:25am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I used to go to my mom's job (a hospital where she was a nurse) when I was a kid. Not for TYCTWD but because we lived across the street from the hospital and I would go there to ask for stuff or meet her or hang out if there was no one to watch me. Everyone seemed to think I was adorable but of course, many of them probably thought I was annoying, too (and I was an almost mute, very shy child).
I think taking your kid to work could make them realize they don't want your job, which seems to have been the case with your son. That's how I felt. When my mother's boss asked if I wanted to be a nurse, I said, "No. I don't want to work on the weekends."
I think this official day is probably unnecessary but sometimes parents take their kids to work because they (a) are showing them off or (b) they have to.
Posted by Joselle on 04/23/2009 at 11:30am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Last year, my company held a very organized Take Your Child to Work Day. There were exhibits, demonstrations of our products (I work for a defense contractor), and activities. It was pretty successful. Contrast this to the last company that I worked for, where bands of small children ran screaming up and down the halls all day. When it's done right, it serves its purpose, but I can see your point.
Posted by Enrique S on 04/23/2009 at 11:31am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I actually loved Take Your Daughter to Work Day when I was a kid. Yes, my dad did adjust his schedule a bit that day (my mom was a freelance writer at the time and my dad worked 10 hours most days) but it made me grateful for all the nice things I had because of what he did all day. In addition, I got to see that schmoozing with clients can involve being genuine, that being a lawyer involves a lot of research, and in general better understand what my dad meant when he said "I spent the day on the phone" (it never had occured to me that actually meant being on the phone all day).
I don't have any kids but a few people in my office bring theirs to work sometimes. So long as the kids are well behaved, I have no problem with them.
And while women are doing great in many respects, it's still bizarre to look at the upper levels and the weird imbalance we see. I find it troubling that the Supreme Court is so heavily male when some issues require decisions that are not only based in law, but in being human. That the female justice was the only one who seemed to understand how awful it is to strip search a young girl seems more than just coincidence to me.
Posted by Bethany on 04/23/2009 at 11:32am | permalink | Reply to this comment
First of all, I love the comments on my blog so much I could just hug everyone. Especially today. Because I'm realizing that what is really interesting about Take Your Child to Work is the history of it.
It's fun to read this comment from Bethany, and all the others about what it was like to go to work with parents when we were kids. Work was so different then.
So I want to contribute: My mom was a punch card operator. She let me use punch cards to make flip books. Maybe that's why, as an adult, I think work is so fun :)
-Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on 04/23/2009 at 12:21pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I feel so special :) We used leftover evidence boards (before my mom was a writer, she was a lawyer, too) for posters at home. In retrospect, I'm grateful she did environmental law and nothing violent!
Posted by Bethany on 2009-04-24 14:13:59 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
@Bethany, I'm so glad you mentioned that Supreme Court case. I was thinking about including it in my comment as well.
Maybe Take Your Child to Work Day should be canceled– maybe not, but I think this one day is not really the point. As Penelope says, the day was initially created to show girls that they could do anything. Now, girls and young women are doing as well as, or better than their male counterparts. But women are still under-represented in important positions of influence and power, such as the Supreme Court. The result is a court full of male justices alternatively laughing and harrumphing about the idea that it could be wrong to force (FORCE!) a 13-year old child to strip and shake out her bra and panties, exposing herself, in front of adults (check out the women at XX Factor/Slate for an interesting discussion).
Penelope delves into the issues that cause women to be left out a lot on this blog, and I think that's the conversation that's worthwhile–fixing the problem– TYCTWD or no. Let's not dismiss the day without acknowledging the fact that one of the goals of its creation has not been met.
Posted by Jennifer Lynn on 04/23/2009 at 02:28pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thanks. That case really upset me. I think the day can be useless, but it can also be helpful if handled correctly.
Posted by Bethany on 2009-04-24 14:12:27 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
Take your Child to Work day is important if for no other reason than to show your child that being an adult who has to work can suck. Otherwise your children might grow up thinking that Adults are really lucky since they can eat what they want, don't have parents who boss them around, and can watch whatever they want on TV. A bunch of spoiled and entitled children learning that they have to work to earn a living is can be a valuable lesson for them to learn if "Take your child to work day" is well executed.
Posted by Steve on 04/23/2009 at 12:03pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
When I take my own son to work, never on TYCTWD, it's hours of boredom for him and distractions for me. The fascination wears off quickly. However, I loved the visits to my father's office as a child in the 70's. They were infrequent and brief, just long enough to tour the floor, greet his colleagues, and then play with the dictating machine. I loved to experience the buzz of his office and meet his colleagues, who were as curious about me as I was of them. I could pretend to be an adult. As a teenager I dropped by his office a few times, just to surprise him and have a look around. Like "Ann", I learned a lot about the office environment and the kinds of people who worked there. My brief impressions, now fond memories, really made me think about where I might like to work one day. I'd like to think that my son has some of those as well.
Posted by So Cal Al on 04/23/2009 at 12:04pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
And like you, Al, I also LOVED the dictaphone. I bet there are many children of the 70s/80s who have similar memories. Thanks for helping me remember some fun little details from my past.
Posted by Ann on 04/23/2009 at 01:07pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think taking your child to work days are crap, but why all the bitter hostility? It was/is one day a year. Get over it.
And to be honest, maybe your kids appreciate having 20 more minutes of their parents' attention for a day.
There are much more important things on which to focus your intellectual abilities.
Posted by talea on 04/23/2009 at 12:13pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think the hostility comes from having to deal with co-workers who think every day is TYCTWD.
Seriously, parents, bring your kid a book or some paper and pencils or something. I know very few adults who can make it through 8 hours with no activity. Why do we expect children to do it?
Posted by Carol on 04/23/2009 at 01:34pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Take your child to work day FAIL: http://www.businesspundit.com/bring-your-child-to-work-day-fails/
Posted by Brendan on 04/23/2009 at 12:15pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
For little companies, TYCTWD does not make sense. I agree. However big companies understand that the workforce is slimming down. TYCTWD is considered a recruiting event.
My industry in particular faces an incredible shortage of math minded kids that will replace our aging Engineers.
So we spend half the day shooting rockets in the parking lot with 9 year olds. We then hand out cool toys with our company name on them so that they all go home saying they want to become engineers like dad or grandpa and build airplanes at X company.
So there you have it: a new way to look at TYCTWD.
Posted by MFR on 04/23/2009 at 12:44pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I could not agree more, on all counts. What take your kid to work day means to my kids is that they get to miss school. My kids couldn't care less what I do at work; actually, they already know: nothing much. Sit at a computer and do what appears to them to be surfing the internet and playing on Facebook and Twitter. Same stuff I do at home, except, as you said, when I'm at work there are other people around who are also trying to work and don't want to see my kids–just like I don't want to see their kids while I'm at work.
I just told my daughter "pretend I don't have a job" and sent her to school.
Posted by Maggie on 04/23/2009 at 01:02pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thank you for being a parent and recognizing that those of us without children really get tired of paying the price for it. Not only in taxes, but all the days we stay late while coworkers to go soccer etc.
I love children, but I'd rather see them in school as they are already behind the global curve. Or if they must go to the office, call it "put your child to work" day. Make them work to let them see how good they have it at school and home.
Thank you for talking about the things others won't…you are refreshing and fun to read.
Posted by Michelle on 04/23/2009 at 01:14pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I agree… they do eat up all the good snacks.
Posted by Jenny Lee on 04/23/2009 at 01:21pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
My kids' school has gone so far as to send home notes saying don't take your child to work on the designated holiday. The kids miss a day of school and the district loses state funding for each absence.
The company I work for sponsors a day in the summer as an official kids visiting day instead of TYCTWD. I've never brought my kids because I have a "work anywhere" job. They see how I work when I'm working at home – always on the phone and the computer. They get really bored really fast when they watch me work.
Posted by Traingolfguy on 04/23/2009 at 01:33pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I completely agree with the sentiments expressed above. If you are going to take your child to work for TYCTWD, then the company should give the childless employees the day off. My daughter is too young (3.5 years old), but I know that I would not get any work done with her in the office no matter how old she is. And I know she would be bored out of her mind watching me write code.
Posted by Danja on 04/23/2009 at 01:37pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, you are 100% right.
Posted by Jim C. on 04/23/2009 at 02:13pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
PT:
Amused by the post.
It is coincidental but worth a mention that in the UK last night's episode of Desperate Housewives was A Spark. To Pierce The Dark. In which Gaby takes her two girls to see daddy at work and some interesting misunderstandings happen with a colleague of Carlos, who assumes the girls must be the cleaner's children (ouch!). It was funny in the way DH is funny, rather subversive but on the ball.
PS: I am curious about who invents these days.
Posted by Shefaly on 04/23/2009 at 02:18pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Just because you don't see the value it should be canceled for everyone? Do you know that the very, very few times that my dad took me to work made a HUGE impression on me! Working fast food jobs in high school and comparing it to my dad's interesting office job motivated me to work hard to pay for, go to, and graduate college. (With no support from my parents as my dad had the old-fashioned view that women didn't need to go to college. That wasn't so long ago and I've heard many parents still spout that point-of-view these days!)
It might not be as important or interesting to young boys who are more likely to be taken to work by their parents anyway or to belong to clubs that offer insights into interesting careers but this is still an important experience for our daughters! Our company doesn't participate in Take your Kids to work day anymore and my children have never seen my office nor will they ever be allowed to see what I do at work as that one day a year was the only day that children were allowed to step foot in our building. What a shame that I can't share the possibility to plant a little seed of career interest in my children. My children say they want to be teachers when they grow up…because the only job they ever get to experience is at their school. Teaching is fine but maybe this is why there are too many teachers for too few jobs.
Things have not changed as much as you might think.
It's only one day or 1/2 a day a year…. let those of us who still see the value of it for our daughters keep it!
Posted by Donna Noble on 04/23/2009 at 02:37pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think it depends on where you work. If you work in a cube farm, skip it. What are your kids going to learn by watching you stare at a computer all day? At my current job, they don't allow TYCTWD.
When I worked in the lab, it was great. The kids got to wear lab coats and safety goggles. The older kids were allowed to run some of the test equipment. Even the non-breeders, like me, enjoyed it.
Posted by the other Amy on 04/23/2009 at 02:38pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Oh the horrible memories…
My private catholic elementary school made a really big deal about this event when I was in 4th grade…making us find out what my parents did (janitor at a high school & o-ring molder) and where and for how long and all kinds of stuff that I was okay with until the actual going to work with my mom (as it was 110 degrees inside my dad's factory and he worked the 7pm -3am shift, we weren't going there).
My older brother and I "shadowed" my mom knowing that the next day, in our respective classrooms, we would have to stand in front of our classes and talk about my mom and how she emptied trash cans! and cleaned toilets! and washed the faculty's dishes!
We decided to blatantly lie and said she was the school receptionist. My teacher knew I was lying (from all those assignments before the fact) but never told on me.
They didn't have "take your kid to work" after that at all. Instead they had (and continue to have) career fair-style presentations and field trips for the older kids, which seems much less trauma-inducing.
Posted by Mary on 04/23/2009 at 02:41pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
A breeder is someone who has children with no intention of fulfilling society's most important role of parent. You wouldn't call a black man a n****, so use the same common sense and respect when referring to parents. Adults who prefer not to have children, and those adults who would love to have a child or adopt a child but cannot also deserve more dignity than to call them non-breeders. As for "Take your Child to Work Day" – it can be a very positive experience if the HR/volunteers put some age-appropriate and fun learning activities together. This worked out well at Autodesk and eBay and other employers. It wasn't actually angry-white males who changed it from daughters to include boys. It was primarily single moms who had sons. The point that boys need this as much if not more than girls is valid given the assault on masculinity by the feminist-controlled family court system and media. This special day only happens once a year, unlike, "Take your stinking dog to work day – every day" so it can fart, bark, mooch food and annoy those workers who don't bring their domestic animals to work. This was a terrible policy at Autodesk.
Posted by A Parent on 04/23/2009 at 02:57pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I liked going to my mom/dads work. At my moms, we screwed around and she let me play solitaire on the computer. At my dads, he dug dirt, so I played in the giant dirt piles and stayed away from him in his big machine the whole time.
But honestly, the only thing i gained was that I liked being in an office then working with dirt.
And it was a day away from school. I loved that.
Posted by Liza on 04/23/2009 at 03:49pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Add Bosses Day and Administrative Assistants Day to the list of really stupid work related "Salute Days". It's just another way to shake down a Hallmark card, a free lunch or a half day of work. That being said, my 3 year old gets plenty of exposure to what mom does every day. She has her own (nonworking) cell phone and (real) laptop computer and frequently tells me, "Mom I need work". Vastly different situation than when I was a kid.
Posted by Alicia on 04/23/2009 at 04:12pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
How about Take Your Nanny and Your House Manager To Work Day, Penelope?
Posted by Greenman2001 on 04/23/2009 at 04:51pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Gee, there's a constructive comment.
Posted by Brenda on 04/24/2009 at 09:48pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
We didn't have any kids in our office because we'd probably scare the hell out of them and scar them. The angry secretary would rip into them too, and then they'd overhear one of the senior people observing re 20 more years in this field "Jesus, give me the gun right now."
It is better that we they don't know. Fresh meat…
Posted by MJ on 04/23/2009 at 05:11pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
back when i was 15 my mom took me to work (it was still called "take your daughter to work day"). she was a case manager for a community mental health center. i just graduated (yesterday was my last class, actually) and i am about to start a job as a case manager in a couple of weeks.
Posted by lain on 04/23/2009 at 05:16pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Good stuff. I never took my daughter, now 5, to TYCTWD. Mostly because I had work to do, and how could I get it done with a baby, toddler, preschooler. Had I not been laid off last month and actually still had a job, I still would not have taken her for an entire day.
Over the past few years, I had brought her to the office a few times for about an hour at a time. This led her to think my job was about eating lunch, playing with Sam the dog, and going for a walk after lunch. Maybe had I taken her for an entire day, she would have realized it was not that fun. But she will have so much more disappointment in life, so why ruin that image now!
Posted by Facie on 04/23/2009 at 05:25pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Now I feel like a very crappy parent for not celebrating last week! At 9 & 11, I consider my daughters to be young children.
I don't think either would survive 9 hours at work with my husband. They love riding up and down the elevator & writing on his wipe-off board, but the thrill wouldn't last for 9 hours.
Posted by ame i. on 04/23/2009 at 05:55pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
My dad worked for a large construction company, doing estimates for bids on the various projects. As a kid, I would go with him to work (not TYCTWD, but during the summer), and each time, I would update my drawing of the "Estimating Machine". He would frame them and hang them up on his office wall.
And I specifically remember one day, I was about 5 years old (so this was about 1980), and I sang along to "Morning Train" by Sheena Easton on the radio as my dad drove.
My love of singing in the car during my commute is still going strong. The estimating…not so much.
Posted by Meredith on 04/23/2009 at 06:43pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm childless, and I don't necessarily object to having a day to bring your kids in and show them what you do. But at my last company the kids never even came into the work areas. As far as I know, they stayed in the main conference room, doing crafts and watching movies. Maybe the in-house video team went down and did some video activity with them.
While I recognize that this was better than kids running up and down the halls screaming, I also wonder what was the point. It seemed like the company was just babysitting kids for free for one day.
Posted by Michelle on 04/23/2009 at 07:09pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I can't imagine a full day of work with my kid in tow . . . OH WAIT I DO THAT EVERY DAY, since I work from home. It's so hard to work with a toddler that I can't believe there is a holiday trying to encourage such a thing. The only time I get things done (real things done – not just answering emails and putting fires out over the phone) is during nap times.
Posted by Amber Warren on 04/23/2009 at 07:47pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
As a high school teacher, I find this just one more way of rendering the educational system useless. I go to great lengths to put together lesson plans for a variety of regular ed, special ed, and ell students during both my daytime and nighttime hours, analyze scores, pick curriculum that fits individual students, and attend a variety of personal events outside the school day, while we nationally sanction reasons to remove children from the classroom. And now I am reading that kids are playing video games in a room down the hall, while their parents blog. In just a few short years of teaching, it has become abundantly clear that people really don't care about the education of their children at all.
I could actually make a concession to this Take Your Daughter and Son to Work day, if it would be recognized in SUMMERTIME and did not interfere with the regular school year (BTW, late April is one of the WORST times for students to take off since we are nearing the end of the school year and every grade and day counts!). But this fails to be a priority for most. And according to the TYDSTW website, the kids should fall between the ages of 8-18, however my engineer husband has reported that most of these precious little darlings are by far younger than 8. Sounds like an excuse for a play day to me and another finger given to educators everywhere (as if we don't have enough of these already). No wonder the American educational system is the laughing stock around the world.
Posted by Allie on 04/23/2009 at 08:51pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Well said.
If I recall correctly, it was no accident that 'Take Your Daughter To Work' was set on a school day instead of in the summer. The folks who came up with the idea wanted there to be special gender awareness lesson plans used on that day in school to teach the boys about the oppression society imposes on females. Thankfully at least that failed, but it is a shame that the day is still on a school day.
Posted by Mike on 04/26/2009 at 05:51pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I agree with you here. Unless you have a job that would be interesting to to kid, don't inflict your workspace on them. A better idea would be "take your parent to school" day.
Posted by Dave Atkins on 04/23/2009 at 10:12pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Flippin' GREAT idea!!!
Posted by A Parent on 04/24/2009 at 02:43am | permalink | Reply to this comment
our school does this too…. careful what you wish for!
Posted by cara on 2009-04-24 09:49:12 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
Well said.
As someone who works in a school, I can vouch for we don't need anymore kids in the workplace.
Posted by principalspage on 04/23/2009 at 10:15pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Is this an actual holiday? I hope your kidding. I'm writing from Canada and haven't heard of it. Seriously – sounds like a joke. My boy(2) comes by about once every couple of months and I love it when he does. Even at a young age I think it's fun for him to know where I am all day plus I just love showing him off!
- also wanted to mention that I thought your post on blogging for money was terrific. I twittered it and mentioned it in a recent post.
Posted by Bruce > The BIG Desk on 04/23/2009 at 10:26pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
P,
My daughter loved coming to work with me on this day every yr. She wants to do something related to Engineering and I would have her spend time with our product developement/engineering execs where they would show her how to use CAD equipement and software (solidworks). Its not for every kid and may have run its course for most individuals, but like anything all coins have two sides. There are kids and parents that can get something out of this if done right. Who knows my daughter might go to Stamford or M.I.T. to be a software engineer someday because she had a positive experience…I can bring her anytime for this kind of experience, but having a day provided a convenient opportunity. If there wasn't a set aside day for this I would probably not have opted for this and who knows if she would feel the same about what she might want to do some day as a vocation.
Just thought I would give you an unpopular perspective…
M
Posted by Mark F. on 04/23/2009 at 10:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Years ago I went to work with my mom–not just on the daughters day, but lots of times during the year as well (evenings, weekends). My mom was a head nurse in pediatric oncology, and I think some would argue over whether it was wise to bring me to that environment (I was probably a walking petri dish + I understood the seriousness of these kids' illnesses), but what I learned has stayed with me forever–facing adversity at such a young age and taking pleasure in the little things. I remember their big smiles when they got to play with a kid that was healthy and not attached to tubes/IV's, etc. When there were smiles, they lit up the room, and when there was pain and sadness, it taught me to be thankful for all that I had. I think when parents have meaningful work that can teach their kids a valuable lesson, then they should share.
Otherwise, I have to say I don't like other kids' boogers wiped on my desk.(A lovely occurrence this time last year.)
Posted by Heather on 04/23/2009 at 11:14pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Funny timing…
I work from home. All the time. Really, too much. (I'm working on a "balance," but really have this out of control "blend" that means I am always working.)
So, today, my 8.5-year old said to me,"You should take a day off." He further pointed out that he is NEVER going to have a job where he has to work all of the time. What is his choice? He's going to be teacher! (I think he envisions that their workday ends when the kids leave.) I did clue him into the fact that teachers (and many other jobs) involve working a lot at home, but he has a plan.
I guess, when EVERY day is "take your child to work" day, they take a lesson we may not intend.
Posted by Miriam on 04/24/2009 at 12:15am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Well, I don't have kids, and in France (where I stand) I don't see a day like this one.
Probably for too young kids this day is quite useless.
If it's just for being locked in a room waiting for the day to go, for sure this seems useless too…
But for kids that are interested, isn't it a nice opportunity to share something? This might be a lighter day than usual, where you show them the stuff you do, why you do it, etc…
And I wouldn't mind explaining my work to another one's kid, to expand the share.
In fact, there is one situation that would be quite hard. The one where the children are not respectful of the people and place (throwing things around, shouting, etc…). This happens, in public places. And those kids would probably not be welcome. But I'd probably have a problem with the parent then :|
Posted by fanf on 04/24/2009 at 02:35am | permalink | Reply to this comment
why would I take my child to work when a good half the fun of work is NOT having your children there … be real … we don't need this day … how bout take the child to gym day – at least the little couch potatoes could get a run around :) le
Posted by le on 04/24/2009 at 07:46am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Other peoples' kids aren't so bad. When you're done getting them sugared up, played out, making them cry, and generally guaranteeing a melt-down is soon in the works, you get to give them back and go about your day kid-free! It's the parents that get stuck with the problem! And the funny thing is those same people think you're good with kids because you're freeing them from having to watch their little brats for a while! Bahahahaha!
Posted by Woody Woodpecker on 04/24/2009 at 08:17am | permalink | Reply to this comment
So totally agree. I'm worn out with all the silly holidays and Week for This and Day for That — all excuses to eat stuff I don't need. Every day is Kids Day anyway.
Posted by Jan Hogle on 04/24/2009 at 09:28am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Think of it as one of those "scared straight" programs where they take kids to the county jail. Show them what they will end up doing for a living if they don't follow their dreams. Seriously though, I wouldn't over think it. Hey, it's a day to hang out with the kid and shake up the daily routine. You don't get anything done, they don't get anything done, but hey, routines are good to shake up from time to time.
Posted by Danny on 04/24/2009 at 09:55am | permalink | Reply to this comment
It's very difficult to take your article seriously when you don't fact check the first sentence and basis of your argument. "Take Our Daughter's to Work Day" didn't start in the seventies – it was 1993.
Posted by Stephanie on 04/24/2009 at 10:12am | permalink | Reply to this comment
That stuck out to me too. So, really, Take Your Child To Work Day didn't actually usher any of those "results" you list in your parade of horribles.
At the risk of sounding like an internet nerd: sensationalism FAIL.
Posted by Anna on 04/24/2009 at 10:22am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Secretaries still have thankless jobs.
Posted by adminass on 04/24/2009 at 10:18am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Instead of bitching about how the feminists screwed up Gen X …instead of bitching about how lame taking your spawn to work is… instead of saying that secretaries were being banged by their bosses (perhaps true in some cases, but not for all- most secretaries worked their asses off for minimum wage all the while getting ogled and pinched. i don't know for sure but i'll bet feminism had a lot to do w/ stopping the ass pinching… My mother was a secretary to feed our family and I guarantee no one dare pinch her ass or she'd split a foot open w/ her 3" heels)
anyway, my point is this: instead of bringing your spoilt child to work who will only discover mommie blogs all day or they'll spend all their time on their gameboy or texting, you should bring a child from an impoverished background to work. a kid whose parent(s) don't have shit to begin with. a kid who sees nothing but violence, thugs hanging around the corner selling dope, mom out of work, dad in jail, etc. this kind of kid doesn't know or comprehend that he/she can be anything. that kid would BENEFIT so much from being taken to work. you may make a difference in someone else's life. So you can get over yours.
Posted by michelle on 04/24/2009 at 10:20am | permalink | Reply to this comment
All that filing that piles up is perfect for take your kid to work day. Why it is one of my favorite day's.
Posted by Ellen Hart on 04/24/2009 at 10:46am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I work out of my house most days. My kids get invade my workspace every day, or maybe I'm invading their home space. They would much rather me take them to school vs our babysitter. How about a Take Your Kids to School day for overworked parents who don't get to spend much time in their kids' world?
Andrea
Posted by Andrea on 04/24/2009 at 10:49am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Take Your Sons and Daughters to Work Day is an educational opportunity. Everybody here has benefited from some sort of educational opportunity that was afforded to them. Why all the venom? These are children who may benefit from being exposed to something eye-opening and educational.
A friend of mine took my daughter to work with her (I am a stay at home parent). She learned about how computers control satellites in space. She learned about the physics of bottle rockets and learned about missiles being launched from submarines. My daughter is seven years old and had a whole world opened up to her that I would have been hard-pressed to show her.
As with any opportunity, it's how you use it and take advantage of the possibilities.
Posted by Opted Out Mom on 04/24/2009 at 10:55am | permalink | Reply to this comment
When it first started, I didn't like take our daughters to work day. It was sexist and discriminatory from day one.
Things I think we should have:
No BS and time wasting during meetings week.
Day where people come to work and work day.
Planning and Project Organization Week.
Take Quality Serious Week.
You have raised some good points about affirmative action. I think it is time that we take those boxes off of hiring forms ( I mean if we are really serious ).
Lets be honest. This is a time where business needs to focus on priorities of getting the job done. That means hiring qualified people. If you are hiring people or not hiring people based on ethnic background and or sex, I believe this economy may wipe you out.
But I do not mean that protections shouldn't be left in place. Employers shouldn't be able to ask questions such as ' Do you plan to have kids?'.
Sorry for the rant. But I have worked in a couple of places where "The good old boy network " was alive and well, and they weren't always white male protestants. One went down, ten people lost their jobs. Another kept having problems, every year they would have a problem that would wipe out most if not all of their profit. Never asking or appearing to look around and say, you know maybe we need to look at personnel in management and re-think our hiring. Maybe we should have hired that lady who had ten years of experience working at a company that is successful.
The only bright side I see to this economy, is that maybe some of this crap will be weeded out.
Posted by bilbo on 04/24/2009 at 11:00am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow–most of you people make me sad.
I took my daughter to work at the federal courthouse where we organized a day to teach them about the criminal justice process, they got to meet and talk to a judge, etc. I had her read settlement letters and see the outcome of a settlement conference at the end of the day, and we talked about how they settled the case, and what that meant. I set her up next to me at my desk and, yes, she sometimes saw me check my e-mail, but she also learned what I do as a lawyer. I did not sit her in an empty room with a DS–I made her learn something, and when she got bored I printed out information on Sacagwea, for her report next month, ans gave her a highlighter.
For crying out loud, teach your children something. Make the effort. Get off your Blackberry.
Posted by KW on 04/24/2009 at 11:43am | permalink | Reply to this comment
You make several interesting points, but does it have to be so complicated? My 2 kids, ages 7 (boy) and 4 (girl), had a great time in my office yesterday. They got to spend some time at this mysterious place daddy goes to every day. They made some new friends, experienced life in an office environment, and learned a little about how we help people get jobs. (we are an HR consulting firm)
My company planned a series of games to keep everyone busy and they brought in pizza and ice cream for lunch. I got a lot of work done and the day ended nicely for them at 2pm.
My oldest was so excited about the day he was up at 5am dressed and ready to go. He hasn't stopped talking about how much fun he had. For me, it was nice for my colleagues to meet my family and for me to get to know them all a little better.
Posted by Brian on 04/24/2009 at 11:50am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wonderful assessment of an unnecessary "holiday".
I also loved that you pointed out that, for parents, ever day is children's day. For those of us who have already raised our children (one daughter a United States Marine serving in Iraq and another a struggling art student), you are preaching to the choir but we like your sermon anyway.
Posted by Donn Christianson on 04/24/2009 at 11:58am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I thought Take Your Daughter to Work Day began in 1993? Sure, parents have been taking their kids to work for a variety of reasons for decades (I would help my dad collect carts at the grocery store he worked at), but the named day began in the '90s.
Posted by Gerry on 04/24/2009 at 01:21pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
While I disagree with the majority of what you just said, you completely redeemed yourself by mentioning the little-talked-about fact that people without children routinely get screwed by people who have kids. People assume that since I'm engaged and buying a house, kids can't be far behind and think I'm some sort of freak that my fiance and I have decided not to have children. One of the main reasons is because of overpopulation, and then people like the octomom…well, I'll leave it at that because I will just get angry.
Posted by Liz - a non-breeder on 04/24/2009 at 01:21pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
My worst fear is that when I am 70 I will regret my decision not to have children, or that I will decide I DO want them, only to find out I'm too old. And you know what, there are plenty of kids that would be happy to be adopted and raised by a couple of older people with established careers.
And also, a lot of people cannot afford to have kids until they have established their careers.
Posted by Liz - a non-breeder on 04/24/2009 at 01:29pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
As a general comment, I'd just like to say that, as in all areas of life, there is no set answer, because "it depends"…on the job, the child, the parent, the season, you name it.
I definitely agree with the teacher who said if we're going to keep this theme day, we should at least move it to the summer so it doesn't disrupt school. Spring is frantic enough for parents with concerts and rehearsals, sports games and practices, private lessons, tutoring sessions, doctor appts… The list goes on.
I agree that these theme days are becoming ridiculous in number. Personally, I wish it hadn't been started, either, but I fear it's here to stay. I remember the look on my son's face when we (parents) told him he couldn't go to work with us (to an intelligence agency–imagine!). Because of course every other kid in his class whose parents had a "normal" job got to go to work.
I think this is just another example of institutionalizing something that really should be left to individual parents. But just as society now expects teachers to teach subjects that parents should be teaching at home, too many parents opt out and dump it on teachers.
Perhaps some of us here have forgotten (or at least not yet mentioned) that the original intention of this day was valid. To offer our children an opportunity to see what the work world is like, and to get them thinking about what they want to do when they grow up. But for the entire country to do this en masse on the same day? Uh-uh. It should be an individual thing, planned by a parent for his/her child.
I understand that if it were not institutionalized, some employers would not allow their employees to bring their children to the workplace. So what? Then take a personal day to take your child to your place of business or to another. Or to a museum. The point is, this day was intended to be instructive to children, so if all we do is remove our kids from school (bad enough) only to play or file paperwork, that is sending the wrong message.
Final thoughts: which theme days are government-decreed and which are only pushed by the card industry? Who determines the exact date? More food for thought.
Posted by Mary in MN on 04/24/2009 at 01:57pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow. Whole lotta generalizin' goin on in this post. Congratulations.
Posted by Meagan on 04/24/2009 at 05:35pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Growing up in the seventies, it (TYCTWD) was still called, "Take Your Daughter to Work Day." My father never took any of my three sisters to work with him at his two man office. I on occasion did go to work with my father. He put me no work cleaning his office and storage area. That was a real lesson.
Posted by Tommy_G on 04/25/2009 at 08:18am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wouldn't it be nice, and more relevant to our generation, to begin a tradition of teaching our kids balance and boundaries around work? Maybe we should start a teach your kids how to get back to the basics and have fun day, where we actually DO take the day off instead of just screwing around and we show them what it means to recharge our batteries and be human instead of blurring work and family together every single day.
P – incidentally, I'm on of the Xers and I am looking forward to having a family. 33, no kids yet, 2 years into a great relationship that's going somewhere. I think our generation was taught that we first have to prove we're career-minded, dedicated women before WE feel valuable enough to be wives and mothers. At least, it seems that way. The divorce rates of our parents' generation also taught us to be self-sufficient first, then marry. Maybe if we realize our inherent value as individuals stripped of our career identities and went into marriages fully committed and expecting them to actually stand the test of time we'd have married and had children younger. Sigh.
Of course, I could be completely wrong.
Posted by Dana, LOA Success & Love Coach on 04/25/2009 at 11:26am | permalink | Reply to this comment
So many commentors have missed the point, as have you Penelope. It's about education and opportunity, not free babysitting and out of control toddlers running amok through the hallways of a place of business.
Obviously, not all jobs/careers/workplace environments are suited to this kind of thing. Fine. They shouldn't participate. Many larger companies are well suited for this kind of community outreach program, though. And it's a fine opportunity for kids to learn about how their education impacts their career opportunities and choices.
Also, Take Our Daughters to Work day was stared in 1993. It's an educational program, not a holiday.
Posted by Opted Out Mom on 04/25/2009 at 12:43pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
WRONG. WRONG. WRONG.
How could you be so wrong?
First off, I'm a guy. Yep. A man. who HAPPILY brought his children (5 and 3) to work on Thursday.
My children both receive lots of early intervention and/or CSE therapy at their schools. Their days are jam-packed. And then after that, there's daycare until we can go get them.
So on one day a year, when they can get a glimpse into what Daddy does for a living, and when Daddy's company plans an entire day for the kids (which was wonderful, by the way) to experience what Daddy does at work… they take advantage of that.
And the next day, everyone goes back to what they do every day.
Should it be an "official day?" In this case, yes, because at least at my company, alot of other parents brought THEIR kids to work, and unlike other companies, mine actually cares about the people that work here, and the kids all had a great time, and for at least one day, all barriers were lowered and everyone enjoyed each other's kids.
If you don't like that… don't go to work on Take Your Kids to Work Day.
And I REALLY can't believe that you don't see a benefit here to this day. Anything that allows the next generation to get a glimpse at what their parents are doing is a good thing.
Posted by brian tiberius on 04/25/2009 at 11:10pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm an Australian and we do not have an equivalent, but as most of my culture comes from yours (thanks for terrible TV shows like Friends by the way), I know what you mean. At first I thought you were a guy (you know, because you are a misogynist), until you started talking about your kids (men never do this in case they come across a hot woman and decide to leave their kids behind). So I checked the heading at the top of this web page, no, you're just a self-loathing woman. Not only are you a woman, but you have kids! Really, are you that selfish? Why did you have kids? Did their middle class perfection go with your need for someone other than your husband to love? Grow up and stop blaming women for being bad parents. Maybe many of them are, but their husbands are just as much to blame for the imperfection you see reflected in them.
Posted by Becka on 04/26/2009 at 05:53pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Yep, Take Your Child To Work Day is stupid. I never got the point, because if you are an involved, engaged parent, shouldn't your kid(s) sort of already know alot about what you do and what your work environment is like? As in, come see you at work, or come see you on a one-off afternoon after school?
I used to do this at my Mom's work and it was a non-issue.
And yes, you are so right, the 70s era feminism led to the biggest fertility train wreck ever, by not telling us the massively politically incorrect, but wholly true fact, that women are at their fertility peak at age 20, like it or not, and going out there and 'proving' yourself and waiting until after you are 30 to have kids is a Bad Idea.
If anyone out there, male or female, thinks for a minute they will want to have children, you must prioritize it to make sure it happens.
You have your whole life to develop and have a kick ass career, but you do not whatsoever have much time to have the children you want.
You have less time than you think you do, go talk to a fertility doctor if you don't believe me.
Posted by finance girl on 04/26/2009 at 06:46pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
oh, I also went and visited my Dad and Stepdad at their workplaces too, just not my Mom's.
Posted by finance girl on 04/26/2009 at 06:47pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I have had several reactions as a DINK with pets. Also, all people without children didn't make the choice not to have kids, for some it was made for them. That isn't my case but I know family that has been faced with this and it isn't appropriate to decide a childless couple is selfish.
Funny reaction: Need balance by take your dog to work day.
Professional Reaction: I understand the benefits of a program surrounding a well designed "take your off spring to work day" can be well done. My friend was describing her employer had a program that set the kids up in teams and gave them a project to do and let them compete with each other "Apprentice" style. They had to sell something to the employees, do quarterly reports, develop a marketing program, and sales techinques. Their profits were given to charity. Well Done.
Looking back on my childhood and I never went to an official "Take your daughter to work day." In my case, my father was a Merchant Sea Captain. I spent time on many of his commands when they were in port. However, I couldn't actually "go" to work with him. My mother was a stay at home mother and then a real estate appraiser. I regularly went with her to hold the other end of the measuring tape. No offical day. Just did it. The end result is I can pretty much guess property value from my gut once I have a sense of the sales in an area and I get horribly sea sick. Other is my friends and colleagues regularly comment on my drive for success and work ethic. That comes from years of work on my parents behalf, not from one day a year at their office. I had to work for the luxuries in my life with chores. I spent many April vacations raking and painting not to get paid but to earn the leather Nikes I wanted. Sure, my parents could afford anything I wanted. That wasn't how it worked in my house. Hence, work ethic was drilled into me. I don't get how this is a positive thing for most children?
BTW, I work from a home office. Every day is take your pet to work!
Posted by pauline on 04/27/2009 at 10:35am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I really enjoyed taking my 5-year-old son to work on Take Your Child to Work Day, but it took a little planning so I could be productive and other people weren't disturbed too much. He stayed for only two hours; I couldn't imagine dealing with him at work all day. I brought him in on the train (he loved that). Then he attended our staff meeting, just looked around and quietly ate his donuts the whole time. He thought the videoconferencing thing was cool. (He whispered to me "Are those guys on the TV talking to us?") He played in an empty office with some other kids. His father picked him up at 11 and drove him to his preschool. I think Penelope Trunk sounds a little bit nutty railing about this: I say, participate or don't participate, do whatever you want. If you do participate, try to be considerate of your coworkers.
Posted by Christine on 04/27/2009 at 06:32pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
This year our office chose to "not participate" in take your child to work day. YAHOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is just a day that people , I should say SOME people think of as a free babysitters club day!!! They take extra time off to go and get the child or children, then let them run the halls, run around the office and disturb those who are trying to actually work. It should not be allowed and ..hmmm..maybe that is why they decided to not participate this year?? The old lessons are out the window these days. Children USE to learn what work really was. NOW they play games on computers or anything Mom can think of to keep them busy for 4-6 hrs. I am truly sorry for those who actually thought it a good day. Like everything it seems this also has taken on a new meaning for todays children, and it is not a good one.
Posted by Debbie on 04/28/2009 at 09:21pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I agree wholeheartedly. Especially the section about how workers with children get special concessions. I raised four children (all born in the 70s). If they were sick, I used sick/vacation days to stay home with them. Today, not only do coworkers bring their sick children into work with them, they stay home and work "online," so they don't have to waste their precious sick/vacation days. Believe me, when my kids were sick, I didn't have the time to work at home. I was too busy taking care of them. There's also the early departures for early school dismissal, plays, parties, etc. I don't begrudge parents their time with their children, but it should be on their own time, not company time.
Posted by Carol on 04/29/2009 at 08:17am | permalink | Reply to this comment
AMEN, sister!
I'm not a parent, so I may be biased, but if you have a close relationship with your kids, shouldn't you be able to explain to them what you do? A periodic (and short!) visit to the workplace isn't out of place, but why the whole dog and pony show?
I also second your note about the balance between workers w/ kids and those without. I never begrudge the girl scout cookie drive, the baby shower gifts etc. because I do so out of friendship in our relatively small workplace. In a larger office I could see how it could lead to strained relations.
Posted by Phil on 04/30/2009 at 08:59am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I've just read this post as I missed it last week. Very funny and it reminds me of the fact that yesterday was Poem in Your Pocket (PIYP) day (7th annual in NYC) – http://www.nyc.gov/html/poem/html/home/home.shtml – and April was National Poetry Month.
So I have a poem for you written Jack Prelutsky titled 'Last Night I Dreamed of Chickens' -
Last night I dreamed of chickens,
there were chickens everywhere,
they were standing on my stomach,
they were nesting in my hair,
they were pecking at my pillow,
they were hopping on my head,
they were ruffling up their feathers
as they raced about my bed.
They were on the chairs and tables,
they were on the chandeliers,
they were roosting in the corners,
they were clucking in my ears,
there were chickens, chickens, chickens
for as far as I could see…
when I woke today, I noticed
there were eggs on top of me.
Posted by Mark W. on 05/01/2009 at 11:06am | permalink | Reply to this comment
What dimension do you live in? Certainly not the one I live in. Oh wait that's right, you think that women should wear makeup to work to please the men folk!
Take your daughter to work day is still as valid today as it ever was. As a woman and a mother I have to tell you, I was never given any extra consideration or privileges because I had children, and I was a single mother. Young women still feel as though they are not as good as men in the more technical fields. They need good role models. Not Brittany Spears, oh but she looks "purty". We still have the highest rates of Bulimia and Anorexia of any country while our girls try and look like models.
I know this is your blog with your opinion, but you never cite any valid studies to back up your claims. All this blog is, is your slanted, antiquated opinion about life through your narrow rosy glasses.
Posted by Shivany on 05/03/2009 at 09:52pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Totally agree! Not that I don't love children, but to see them 24/7 is so over killed! On the other hand, I don't mind bringing my cuddly small dogs to work…at least they don't throw tantrum.
Posted by Renee on 05/06/2009 at 07:29am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Why are white males always "angry" in libs eyes? I am very happy 90% of the time and am VERY conservative.
Posted by Dan on 05/14/2009 at 01:13pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
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Posted by sime on 05/21/2009 at 06:14am | permalink | Reply to this comment
The other part I hate about this day, is that the spends time/energy/money on planning activities for the kids brought in, which means the parents are often leaving their work to go to this activity with the kids. Now, it's great because I don't have the kid next to me trying to distract me from working anymore, BUT I also don't have my coworker working for like 3 hours while they are at the activity and now I have to cover for them. REALLY ANNOYING!
Posted by cbowlin on 06/05/2009 at 03:27pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I guess, when EVERY day is "take your child to work" day, they take a lesson we may not intend.
Posted by Nike Lebron VI on 06/10/2009 at 11:56am | permalink | Reply to this comment