Here's what last week was like: On Sunday I flew to Detroit and gave a speech at the Public Relations Society of America. Then I flew back to Madison on Tuesday and met with an investor who only wanted to talk about my blog even though I want him to put more money into my company. Then the farmer slept over Tuesday night, and drove me to the airport at 4 a.m. so I could fly to Ft. Lauderdale to give a talk the Electronic Recruiting Exchange. On Thursday morning I woke up at 4 a.m. again and flew to San Francisco and took a car to Sand Hill Road, venture capital mecca of the universe.
In the car, I called the farmer for fifteen minutes of fun. I should have been preparing for the venture capital meeting. But I was so tired, and I told myself the call would make me perky for presentation edits.
In that car, on that call, the farmer dumped me.
He has actually dumped me a lot. Five times in four-and-a-half months. In fact, he's dumped me so often that he has already dumped me once when I've been on the phone in a car. And he has already dumped me once when I flew to San Francisco.
So you'd think that maybe this would be familiar and I would just plow through it like the other times. But there is a theme to the dumping. He wants something to be different and instead of telling me, he dumps me. So I convince him that if he asks for something then probably I can give it to him, but he has to ask. So he asks and we go on a few more weeks, and then he dumps me again.
This time, I realized that I should not keep convincing him to ask for something instead of dumping me. I think I realized this after I twittered that he keeps dumping me and it was like confessional because I hadn't told anyone before, and the universal tweet response was that I should get out of the relationship.
So this time, when he dumped me, I decided it was really the end.
I said, Okay, and we hung up. Nothing else. You might think that being together four months would mean we have stuff at each others' houses. But the farmer is 38 years old, and he's never been in a relationship longer than four months, so I think we both knew that leaving anything at anyone's house was too optimistic.
Which means it's a clean, no-strings break.
Which would have been completely true if it weren't that I was so sad. And if it weren't that I had to give a big presentation two hours later. And on top of that, I didn't have the sales numbers finished that I would need for the meeting.
So I took drastic measures. I could tell I was in shock and I was going to need to cry and I didn't have anywhere to break down. So I got a hotel room, even though I wouldn't be sleeping over. I sat on the bed and stared at the wall and got scared that I would never be in love again in my life.
Then I worried that I would not be able to hold my life together. I have too much with the kids, and the divorce and the company and now being dumped. It's too much.
But then I realized that I never fall apart. I get through lots of stuff and people always say it's so much but really, what else can you do? People get through what they have to. So then I worried that I'd get through this but I'd be numb. One of those people who is great at work but checked out everywhere else in life. I worried that I wasn't crying.
I didn't cry. I opened my computer and realized that I didn't even have the numbers I needed for making a slide. So I called Tim, the guy who helps me with my PowerPoint stuff. And I said, “Where are the sales figures?”
And he said, “Where is the email you said you'd send so I could do the sales figures?”
And I said, "Crap."
So we worked on the slides, and I know my voice sounded like I was trying really hard to hold it together, but I hoped that Tim thought it was because I was nervous that I was missing the slides.
I said, "I hope the guy at [renowned VC firm] is nice."
Tim said, "You don't need someone to be nice. You need someone to be direct and honest."
And then I started crying. I said, "Tim, the farmer dumped me."
And Tim said, "Again? He dumped you last time you were out here, too."
"This time I'm not trying to convince him," I said. "And I do need someone who is nice. I'm sick of direct and honest. I want nice."
Tim said, "I'm sorry." He suggested that maybe I should move the slide about my accomplishments to the front of the presentation so I can feel good about myself right away.
So I redid my makeup to fix the teary mascara. And I put the slide in the beginning of the deck, and I went to the meeting.
I ate three chocolates in the lobby because I remember reading that kids who ate a chocolate bar right before the SAT scored higher.
I pitched the company. The guy said he was familiar with my site.
"You mean you read my blog?"
"Yes," he said.
I told him that my company is not my blog. Then we ran through all the company stuff.
At the end of the presentation, this is what he asked me: "Who was your childhood hero?"
My first thought was that this was like a classic interview question: "What food would you be if you were a food?" And I decided that it was important to give an answer that I could talk about in a way that would be consistent with who I am. And who I want him to think I am.
I said, "Judy Blume." As soon as that came out of my mouth I realize that I was going to have to talk about myself as a writer, and not as a CEO. And all investors want to grill me on my ability to lead a large company. Except the investors who immediately think their friend will run my company because I will be a blogger.
It's times like this, paragraphs like that, when I think, what am I doing? How am I ever going to get funding when I write so often and openly about my dark, funding underbelly? I used to tell myself that the investors have no time to read my blog, but in fact, the investors are so enthralled with reading my blog that they have started asking for advice on starting their own blog.
And still, I keep writing. Because when I think about how I got though last week—the too-much travel, and the high-pressure meetings, and being dumped for the fifth time—the only thing I can think of that will make things better is to write about it. All of it.
And then I think that the investor is a genius for asking me my childhood hero because it does, in fact, reveal who I am. I just have to keep reminding myself that Judy Blume is not only a writer. She is an empire.










I too am a writer and my words have gotten me through the illness and death of my mother, the illness and death of my aunt, the illness and death of my grandmother all within 25 months.
Recently, writing (along with prayer I must admit) has been cathartic in dealing with prickly teens and my own health concerns. Case in point: http://tinyurl.com/5cpo5m
Of course, unlike you, my business affords me the luxury of working from a home office where I'm seldom seen by the client. I can sit in my fuzzy red robe (yes, I really work in it quite often) and boo hoo to my hearts content…all the while the keyboard keys are clacking away.
I once took a decorative painting class in the midst of a big move. Someone asked me how I had time to sit and paint while all the world appeared to be going to hell around me. My response, "painting is cheaper and safer than taking valium."
There is a great release and a contentment that surrounds creative energy. I'm glad someone else writes through the tears and can heal herself.
Posted by Cindy Foster Grace on 11/03/2008 at 07:53am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am only 21, I have not even graduated, maybe i wont even graduate with a very good mark and when i do it will be really hard to find a job. But after reading this post i understand that maybe i AM happier than a successful blogger and struggling ceo.
You can do two things now. Keep pushing yourself travelling, try to find money for web startups, paying twitter editors and everyhing else OR you can have some time with your kids and maybe start a meaningful relationship.
If a 5-times-dumped-in-5-months relationship is meaningful enough to write about it in a suceessful and business oriented blog then you're in big trouble. Think about it. You are not getting any younger
Posted by vincenti on 11/03/2008 at 08:05am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Lots of comments here for months have been wishing you and the farmer well. But hey, not every relationship works out in an easy way. He'll probably come back to you in a week, begging you to take him back. Because you're obviously OK–you're still grounded enough to think clearly about what's going on and what's important to you. So congrats on your strength and let us know when the farmer is back in your life, because he will be.
Posted by Michael Fontaine on 11/03/2008 at 08:26am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm sorry and very happy you had those three pieces of Chocolate, the farmer was a jerk, and to have allowed him to dump you more than once was very generous of you…and yes we do apply our mascara, look at the face in the mirror and say…I don't wanna but I can….and then we
of-course do.
Posted by KatybJensen@aol.com on 11/03/2008 at 08:29am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hello – I found this post very compelling in that it spoke to me on two levels, (1) I'm currently working for an international publishing business and have started two of my own companies in the past,and (2) I'm a frustrated writer who would love to make writing my full-time profession aside from the fact that I have not jump started that avenue yet. I've thought quite a bit about being a writer when I ran my companies and even now and when I do write I can't convince myself to leave the business world. I've also read quite a bit of Napoleon Hill, one of my hero's, and he implores us to reach for our "definite chief aim." I believe you are doing this and you must never let anyone convince you otherwise. Perhaps we can be of help to each other. Contact me via email if you want to continue this dialogue. I wish you all the best.
Posted by Jeff on 11/03/2008 at 08:32am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm so sorry about the farmer. I've never commented before, but I just wanted to let you know that you're pretty great.
Posted by Debra on 11/03/2008 at 08:55am | permalink | Reply to this comment
It's his loss, sister. Seriously. It doesn't mean it doesn't suck. And it certainly hurts and whatnot. But it's 100% his loss.
As a side note: one of the best meetings I've had in a long time was following a 20 minute cry-fest two weeks ago. I said it was "allergies" and then proceeded to give what was called "a very heartfelt presentation." Of course, how could it not be? Clearly heart was trumping mind at that moment so I had no choice. Ain't nothin' wrong with a good cry (or four).
Posted by Margie on 11/03/2008 at 08:58am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Firsty, Vincenti – ouch – not getting any younger … please do you really thing P would want to be any younger – and 'think about it' – well I am sure she has – she seems quite the thinker to me – give me a break !
Said as only a 21 year would. Will wait for your take on things in 20 years and see if you might find some compasion/empathy and understand the phrase 'don't kick a (wo)man while (s)he's down'.
Now P you know well enough to understand the only real failure is to have not tried (or risked) anything in the first place …. in love and business.
I'd take your risk / reward / experience over youthful simplistic thinking anyday.
Apologies for sounding like a mouth piece – I know you can kick back when needed ….. cheers le
Posted by le on 11/03/2008 at 09:10am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hi Penelope,
Thanks for the post. I've been going through my own heartache in relationships just over the last week, and your courage to still continue your daily work is awesome. Keep up your honesty, and always keep holding on to the hope of a better future.
jon
Posted by jon on 11/03/2008 at 09:20am | permalink | Reply to this comment
That's too bad about the farmer but it sounds like it is for the best. You were both so different (which is what made it so interesting to read about) & your beliefs were probably too far apart for anything to develop into a long term relationship.
It's probably best that you had to give the presentation. It kept you busy & gave you a purpose instead of having time to just stare at wall and feel crappy. The meeting forced you to get it together & that is a good thing.
You obviously meet a lot of people from work & in your travels so I am sure someone better will come along. Until then just enjoy the journey & keep doing what you're doing.
Posted by Neil C. on 11/03/2008 at 09:20am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope – you are hot (I know, I finally met you in person) and successful. Take the advice you gave me, and go kick butt.
Posted by Milena Thomas on 11/03/2008 at 09:33am | permalink | Reply to this comment
To write openly as you do requires courage, committment and skill. Plus it makes for interesting reading and helps others who are dealing with similar challenges. Which is admirable.
Unfortunately writing so openly in the public domain can put off certain investors in your company. But maybe they're not the type of investors that you'd work best with?
Dust yourself down and keep on searching….
(p.s. does the same point apply to the search for love..?)
Posted by Sital on 11/03/2008 at 09:36am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hello
I'm glad you cried. It's good to let it out even if it is at a somewhat inconvenient time such as right before a meeting.
Hope you feel better!!
Posted by Mel on 11/03/2008 at 09:37am | permalink | Reply to this comment
"In that car, on that call, the farmer dumped me."
Huh? WTF, you mean to tell us he doesn't have the common courtesy to tell you this straight up in person? I only know what I read here so I think you can understand how immature he appears to be in my mind. Also I don't know how anyone can fault you for not trying to make this relationship work with him. I've already said enough here on this aspect of this post.
"I get through lots of stuff and people always say it's so much but really, what else can you do?"
In one word – balance. You write about it in various posts on this blog and only you will be able to achieve it in your own way somehow. I think your relationship with the farmer has started you on the path to find this balance for yourself.
"So then I worried that I'd get through this but I'd be numb."
I don't think that's your true self. You're already aware of this possibility so I don't think you'll ever let yourself go there.
My childhood (TV) hero was Chuck Conners who played Lucas McCain in "The Rifleman". I thought it was a good western TV series that promoted good character in people and the use of force only when absolutely necessary. Now I really do feel old!
Posted by Mark W. on 11/03/2008 at 09:56am | permalink | Reply to this comment
At least you weren't stood up five times by the same person.
Posted by Kat on 11/03/2008 at 09:59am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm not going to give you a pep talk about the farmer. Here's the thing: Sometimes the same thing keeps happening over and over (i.e. the dumping) because it takes a while for us to either 1) get it or 2) learn what we needed to learn. This happens to me quite a bit – but usually in career stuff (like I keep getting the same asshole boss over and over for 10 years and then I finally "get" what I was supposed to learn and I end up with an awesome boss).
The second thing is that you seem like someone who's up for the challenge and likes to win. I think that's what's going on here, too. Like the Farmer is the prize – and you'll be the first one in 38 years to get the prize. I understand this, too. I like to win (Gen Xers are competitive). I just think you can go for a bigger, better prize. It's fun to win something at the carnival, but when you get it home, do you really want a monkey stuffed animal?
Posted by GenerationXpert on 11/03/2008 at 10:00am | permalink | Reply to this comment
@le
Yes, maybe i was a bit too blunt but hey. I got different targets. For me family is #1 and i really do not believe that being a GOOD business(wo)man and a GOOD parent can be both achieved. You can be at only one place at a time. With your kid whenever it needs you or with your client. And your kid needs you more than you think.
But if you think it, the cause of all of P's problems is that she works too much. Imho of course.
Posted by vincenti on 11/03/2008 at 10:01am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I kept readin the blog trying to figure out how you did go to the meeting. You never really gave any advice on how. Were you saying you just go or have to go to the meeting. I do not know how you did it but congratulations. I am not even involved but am sad and unsure of my next meeting now. Wish I could say something profound and comforting. You life sure seems busy. I regret my previous thoughts thinking you were not blogging enough. Take a moment off occasionly and breathe.
Posted by Don B. on 11/03/2008 at 10:08am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am sad for you that the relationship ended in such a difficult and unpleasant way. But I am happy for you that the relationship ended, because it was clearly a problem relationship.
It is not a healthy or mature relationship when one person threatens to leave in order to open a dialogue on change. Emotionally mature people say, "I don't like ___, and I want ___ instead." Emotionally immature people resort to passive aggression, manipulation, and fear tactics.
If your partner is afraid to say, "I don't like … I want …" then there is something wrong with the relationship, or with one of the partners. I am glad that you have accepted that there was a problem between you and the farmer that is probably not fixable at this time.
I'm glad that you were wise enough to give yourself a private place to regroup, and then that you were smart enough to distract yourself with your work. I'm glad that Tim was able to empathize with you and to suggest ways to bolster yourself before the presentation. I'm glad that you were able to access your inner strength to accomplish your goal.
Going forward, try to focus on the good that came of the relationship with the farmer. You gained a lot of self-knowledge in those months, and that is valuable. It will help you be a better person. And maybe a more balanced one. Wouldn't you be a lot happier if your work and life didn't crash at the intersection?
Posted by Editormum on 11/03/2008 at 10:14am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Date #4 and I broke up yesterday. Today, I have four meetings with managers of all levels, including c-level, where I need to present myself in the most credible light. I'm barely keeping it together. I'm with you, P. Right now.
Posted by Holly Hoffman on 11/03/2008 at 10:15am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Not all farmers are created equal. Don't write 'em all off.
Posted by RML on 11/03/2008 at 10:16am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Great post, Penelope! I do love your candor. Take care of you and it's his loss for SURE!!! Everything happens for a reason, it's just sometimes we don't always know the reasons right away.
Posted by Rosy on 11/03/2008 at 10:23am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Ms. Trunk,
My deepest sympathies about the Farmer. Know that you did the right thing. Communication is one of the most important things in a relationship and it's obvious that he has a problem with that.
On another note, don't beat yourself up too much. You've had a rough week. Relax, take some time to be nice to yourself and treat yourself gently for a bit. You'll be back and stronger than ever! I know that, there is the perfect investor for you right around the corner.
You're incredible. Don't let anyone make you think for a moment that you're not.
Warmly,
Anthony Papillion
Posted by Anthony Papillion on 11/03/2008 at 10:39am | permalink | Reply to this comment
"But the farmer is 38 years old, and he's never been in a relationship longer than four months"
Oh my God. What a piece of work.
I'm sorry for your lost, but you can do way better. Good luck. The VC scene is a little rocky these days.
Posted by Sally on 11/03/2008 at 11:06am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I know there's never a "good time" to dump someone, but wow, what the farmer did was just low.
Although you and I disagree on a lot of things, I still think you're a great role model for those of us who are/want to be careerists, even if you don't necessarily want to be a CEO of a venture capitalist company. Your advice crosses career lines; there's a lot of your writing that has been applicable to me, even at my nonprofit research job. This post really shows how to keep it together, even when you feel overwhelmed and it seems your personal life is falling apart.
Posted by earlgreyrooibos on 11/03/2008 at 11:29am | permalink | Reply to this comment
You are better off out of that relationship. He sounded like a nice guy until you let on about the serial dumping. He's an emotionally immature jerk.
I echo le's comments about Vincenti – totally insensitive and also far too binary. It's not a simple case of choosing between business and relationships/family – Penelope is the breadwinner and her family does need her to earn a living as well!
Penelope, I feel for you, not only going through the divorce and the recent breakup but also trying to start a business in a recession (or on the brink of one). I really admire that you are still out there doing it, day after day.
Posted by Caitlin on 11/03/2008 at 11:32am | permalink | Reply to this comment
OK – awesome column. Awesome. You know what is more important than tap-dancing in shiny shoes and a shiny suit in front of other suits? Knowing and being what you are. Then, if the don't like your tap-dancing, F them. I don't mean to sound anti-careerist, but maybe I am if "career" means conforming to someone else's BS. The only thing, and best thing we have at the end of the day, is our sense of self. Great column about recapturing yours.
Posted by MJ on 11/03/2008 at 11:51am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This sort of told me how to get through a presentation when I want to go sit and cry, but almost not enough. I don't mean to be critical, just that the subject of this post got me VERY excited because I have been in that situation many times and probably will be again. And only Penelope was going to tell me how to do it. Because other women wouldn't admit to being in a situation like that.
Judy Blume isn't just a writer. She is an icon. She got a lot of young women through their teenage years. She is almost a dictionary definition – if you say you are writing a Judy Blume-type book, people will know what you mean.
You need to start charging people for advice about how to start their blogs.
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Crap. That’s a very good edit. Sooner or later you get to a point in your career where you don’t have a choice. You just have to pull yourself together. I’ve gotten so used to not having that choice that I forgot to write about how to do it.
Here are four steps to making sure you never miss a meeting due to emotional drama.
1. It is only an option to miss a meeting if someone is ill or dying. Otherwise, you have to go.
2. Take measures to recuperate quickly, and don’t judge yourself on how crazy the measures are. Getting a hotel room for 3 hours is the tip of the iceberg for how crazy it could get.
3. Mix caffeine and Advil—both are proven to be mood enhancers and confidence boosters. Do it a half hour before the meeting.
4. Trust yourself. People have a remarkable ability to flip an emotional switch on and off if they are forced to. Force yourself to rise to the occasion by walking into the meeting.
One of the greatest things that a career can give you is a sense of self-reliance. And you can only measure your self-reliance in a bad situation. Everyone is capable when they are in a good spot. But going to a meeting when you are crying is a great opportunity to judge yourself.
- Penelope
Posted by karen on 11/03/2008 at 11:59am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Just noticing that you've experienced two deaths this past year – your marriage died, and now your 4-month relationship died. You cried, and yet do not seem to have made time to grieve.
I think remember you writing about therapy, and discovering what mistakes you made in your marriage. While this is an excellent thing to do, (full disclosure: I've been a psychotherapist for 26 years, so I'm partial to therapy…) such exploration/discovery is only fodder for the mind– as is totally directing your attention to work–a very 'yang' thing to do. Your head has more knowledge, but it does little for your heart and soul.
The 'yin side' is the 'taking the time to collapse into grief' piece.
Many are the arguments for not doing this work: bills to pay, reports to process, the recession, whatever. These are ways to avoid doing the scary thing – having your feelings.
As you are noticing, you are 'full'– and the feelings, the grief, is not going anywhere on its own — unexpressed, it just gets somaticized.
Maybe go visit your therapist, and instead of more discussion, ask to hold the box of Kleenex. You're full. Be empty.
Posted by Wayne Allen on 11/03/2008 at 12:03pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, I'm sorry. This might not mean anything now but you will be in love again. When I was with someone who didn't love me but didn't want to leave me alone, I couldn't help but plead my case. I thought that's all I needed to do. I would tell them why they should love me and act like someone worthy of sticking around for. It took me a long time before I realized there was no amount of convincing I could do to make the person love me back. They were completely getting off on me acting like an attorney or salesman for my heart.
Now I'm with someone who I knew would be kind and gentle and careful with me from the first 5 minutes of meeting them. I sometimes test him because I'm used to having to plead my case–to lovers and parents and the world–so it's just a habit I've formed. I don't need to, though. He's actually just a really decent, functioning human who would never let me torture myself. He's real. I wouldn't have thought so a few years ago. Now I know there are many more men like that.
I'm still sorry and it still sucks.
You are a very memorable, funny, and truthful writer who knows how to stun with sentence structure. Keep writing.
Posted by Joselle on 11/03/2008 at 12:33pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
And still, you were polite and open and smiling when Jason Warner introduced us. A passing moment for you, I'm sure. For me, I felt pretty cheeky that I had just met the Brazen Careerist! 20 years ago, I took my mother to an Oprah show taping. After the show, Oprah stayed and greeted every single audience member with a smile and personal comment. That's why, I'm convinced, she is an empire. The farmer sucks. You're awesome.
Posted by Carmen on 11/03/2008 at 12:43pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"But if you think it, the cause of all of P's problems is that she works too much. Imho of course."
The "problem" is that she has feelings for someone who hasn't treated her nicely, or with proper respect. Do you really think that if she stayed home more, this guy would behave himself? Because if you do, it sounds like you think she can control him to give her what she needs – that his behavior depends on her toeing the line – and that's not a healthy dynamic at all.
People behave themselves or they don't. No one "makes" him act a certain way. And she can't prevent his actions, no matter how well-behaved she is. (There are plenty of stay-at-home mothers subjected to domestic violence to attest to this, unfortunately).
PS – The farmer isn't necessarily a jerk. But wow does he ever sound like a control freak! That dynamic, "I will let you know that you did something wrong, and now you get to figure out what it is and how to fix it – oh, were you distracted by something that is not me when I dumped this on you? Pity…" is a pretty classic maneuver.
Posted by Liz on 11/03/2008 at 12:44pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"Do you really think that if she stayed home more, this guy would behave himself? Because if you do, it sounds like you think she can control him to give her what she needs – that his behavior depends on her toeing the line – and that's not a healthy dynamic at all."
And furthermore, why should she deny who she is just to make someone else happy? I know that if my husband wanted me home more, we'd get divorced. Because I would be miserable if I were a housewife. I know it works well for some people, but not me. Yeah, the relationship clearly didn't work out, but would it honestly work better if Penelope had pretended to not be herself just to make someone happy?
Posted by earlgreyrooibos on 11/03/2008 at 12:47pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Oh, and Penelope, I am sorry if that comes off as blunt. I think the Farmer had some attractive qualities and gave you something that you needed. It's ok if you decided that he also has a downside.
You're not going to be alone forever just because you left one guy on the shelf. And it doesn't say anything about you that you had a relationship that didn't work out. (Even though right after a divorce, it feels like all relationships are a referendum on your culpability for the past). Lots of relationships don't work out. Lots of people don't suit each other. You'll find someone. I swear.
Posted by Liz on 11/03/2008 at 12:48pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Reading Wayne Allen's comments made me realize that my comment might have sounded like, I met a bad buy and then I met a good guy.
Really, it didn't matter who I met. Neither one could have gotten to me in the different ways they did without me having done therapy and learning to not shame myself. It was a lot of alone time and work I did in between those two people and after.
Posted by Joselle on 11/03/2008 at 12:58pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
In your earlier blogs about the farmer he sounded like a guy with lots of great qualities.
Not so much here. It seems that you have thrown him under the proverbial bus. I wouldn't wait for him to take you back.
I hope he does, I just wouldn't wait.
Don't make life more complicated than it is. I always tell high school kids… make things simple… marry someone who wants to marry you and work someplace where you are wanted.
If the farmer wants to move on, let him. If investment firms are more interested in your blog than your business, be appreciative of having another loyal reader.
Make life simple. Don't fight it. Because when you do, you usually end up losing.
Posted by micsmith on 11/03/2008 at 01:34pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Chocolate good. Farmer bad. Just keep going with that P.
Posted by Roxanne on 11/03/2008 at 01:49pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Not to hijack, but micsmith, are you a high school teacher or counselor?
I am wondering if I should be one and I even got the career book Penelope recommended (Do What You Are) and I'm still undecided.
Posted by Potential teacher on 11/03/2008 at 03:04pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm sorry Penelope. ~Noelle from preschool
Posted by Noelle on 11/03/2008 at 03:47pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"And he said, “Where is the email you said you'd send so I could do the sales figures?”
And I said, "Crap."" – from the body of your post and
"Crap. That’s a very good edit. …" in response to Karen's comment.
I would have to disagree with Wayne Allen with all due respect that, in fact, you are not full (or at least not as full as you were before you wrote this post).
Posted by Mark W. on 11/03/2008 at 04:01pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm sorry to hear the sad part of this story. But, I have to say that you're as resilient as anyone out there. I'm sure you'll get out of this stronger and happier.
One thing I've been wondering is whether you will be better off by being a popular blogger vs. starting a venture-backed start-up.
You're a great writer, and your blog has a good reader base. You could monetize your blog without hiring too many people. Given your site's traffic and content, you should be able to bring in $1-$2 million annually just by working with someone who knows internet advertising well. And you'll earn a good living while spend most of your time writing and "playing" with your kids.
It's very hard to start a blog network like what you're trying to do now. And the economy is tanking, and the ad market will be impacted significantly. I'm not sure if you want to set up such a substantial operation with VC money.
Just my 2 cents. Good luck.
Posted by GeekMBA360 on 11/03/2008 at 04:06pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Having been there first hand, I can say with certainty that you will get through both of these things (the break up and the financing). Great to read all of the support you have. Talk soon amiga.
Posted by Tim Taylor on 11/03/2008 at 05:10pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
It was a good run with the farmer and I think you got what you needed to get out of it. You'll find something better in the long run. I'm not sure a long term relationship is good for you right now anyways.
Judy Blume is so much more than a writer. She's a woman that pushed the boundaries and was liberating to women everywhere. She's like a feminist hero (and I don't like feminism :)
Keep working on the investors. You'll find the right one soon.
Posted by Rachel - I Hate HR on 11/03/2008 at 05:21pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Great post! I think it is important for people to keep the personal side of the internet where it can often seem impersonal. I am trying to write more on my own blog and you serve as a good example of communicating with your audience and being true to yourself while also giving us good content.
Posted by Jennifer - The Camp Director on 11/03/2008 at 06:06pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hi Penelope,
Great post. I'm sorry about the farmer.
Thanks for linking to my post. I'm curious to know how you felt about the PRSA speech? Obviously, you read what I thought – that the Gen. X and Y's loved you, but the baby boomers gave you a hard time?
Does this happen a lot since baby boomers seem to be more of traditionalists?
Posted by Brian on 11/03/2008 at 06:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
The important thing is that you went to the meeting. Yes, writing can help some people get through the ups and downs of life, but you didn't have time to write about the farmer before you met with the investor…yet you still went through with the meeting even if you were crying on the inside.
Posted by Shawn on 11/03/2008 at 08:02pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I really enjoyed the last line!
Posted by jenX67 on 11/03/2008 at 08:39pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
He dumped you knowing you were going into a huge meeting in two hours? What a jerk. You were right, quit fighting for something he does not want. And get comfortable with yourself. You seem to put up with a lot of crap due to low self-esteem "…scared that I would never be in love again in my life." You can do better than that!
Posted by The Opinionator on 11/03/2008 at 08:49pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
P – You don't need a relationship with someone that is so immature that instead of communicating his needs and wants he dumps you. I don't mean that in a "mean, name-calling way", either. I just mean, if he's at that point in his communication, intimacy & relationship skills, he is not the guy for you. Sorry about that.
You are beautiful, smart and lovely. You will rally again. I'd bet cash money on it.
Posted by Jenn Barnes / HR Wench on 11/03/2008 at 09:04pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Isn't this a big reminder to be yourself? You are a writer and that isn't going to change no matter how many companies you run, will it?
I'm sorry about the Farmer, as being dumped sucks, plain and simple, but at least now you won't be dumped by him repeatedly anymore.
Posted by melissa on 11/03/2008 at 09:16pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
You go girl. I find you very inspiring :)
Posted by GTD Wannabe on 11/03/2008 at 10:40pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Judy Blume is an empire. I am a librarian (so I know).
You certainly are an empire. Penelope, I think you are extremely well branded!
Farms smell :)
Posted by Amy on 11/03/2008 at 10:40pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
My take is that you are abusive—without meaning to be or even realizing it—but abusive nonetheless, to the men in your life. As an example, no man wants to see private details about his life thrown up on the Internet, even if done semi-anonymously. You obviously have some bizarre need to indulge yourself this way, but maybe you should think twice about being so overbearing. Anyway, I hope things work out better for you in the future.
As for your company, best of luck there, too. It's unfortunate timing to be seeking VC funds as the economy tanks. Maybe you really don't need their money. GeekMBA360 makes some sense above.
Posted by Frank on 11/03/2008 at 11:05pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hello Vincento – what is a IMHO … anyone ?
And thanks for the heads up – I do know how much my kids need me. Parents usually, be default do know – well 99.9% of is anyways … cheers le
Posted by Le @ third on the right and cold peas on 11/04/2008 at 01:19am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I never knew chocolate could boost confidence – great tip.
I agree with Editormom — the farmer is emotionally immature to dump you every time he can't get what he wants from you. How infuriating that he could be so insensitive and selfish. It just shows he just thinks of himself, and not you.
Penelope: You did great of holding yourself up during the meeting. Judy Blume is a great heroine for all women. Cheers.
Posted by Yu Ming Lui on 11/04/2008 at 03:41am | permalink | Reply to this comment
@ Le
IMHO stands for 'in my humble opinion'.
Posted by Shefaly on 11/04/2008 at 04:11am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Honesty and Transparency – aren't those the big buzz words for blogging these days? I'm not sure I've read a post where I felt the picture of a human being so completely and vividly. Granted, I can understand your frustration over wanting to be seen as a CEO and being taken for just a blogger – but you are a writer. You have a gift.
And there aint nothing wrong with a good cry.
Posted by Lindsay Price on 11/04/2008 at 07:53am | permalink | Reply to this comment
"My take is that you are abusive—without meaning to be or even realizing it—but abusive nonetheless, to the men in your life. As an example, no man wants to see private details about his life thrown up on the Internet, even if done semi-anonymously."
The commenter above, Frank, went on to chastise P for being "overbearing," too. I agree that not everyone wants to be written about, and not everyone wants to date a workaholic. However, was P supposed to say, "Hey, I should definitely try to become someone in the relationship that this guy would like better in order to not trouble him?" Because the word for that is "Door mat."
Frank is showing a pretty basic misunderstanding of human relationships. It's not "abusive" to fail to anticipate that someone won't like a certain behavior. It's only abusive if, in the face of protest and evidence of pain, someone continues the disruptive behavior. P's behavior was not obviously disrespectful toward the man. She didn't hit him or do things to deliberately inflict pain. She was herself. That's VERY different than abuse.
Rather than actively hurting her partner, though, Frank seems concerned that P did not ANTICIPATE Farmer's preferences. That's not abusive. That's assuming the Farmer is a grownup with the ability to state his own preferences when required. (All evidence to the contrary).
I'm not sure why Frank wants so badly to label, "A woman I would prefer not to date," as "Someone who is treating men badly." But failing to live up to some feminine standard isn't abuse, Frank.
Posted by Liz on 11/04/2008 at 08:54am | permalink | Reply to this comment
So… You're saying you're available?? ;)
-Paul in DC
Posted by Paul on 11/04/2008 at 09:02am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm sorry about the farmer. I am reluctant to overgeneralize, or blame this on him, but here is my two cents…
Until recently I also lived in Wisconsin. And had done so for several years. And I met and dated several nice guys. (I was a guy dating other guys, but I don't think that makes a difference here.)
They were all great, smart, handsome, well-rounded human beings. And there's the "Minnesota nice" or "Wisconsin nice" syndrome, if you will.
But the flip side of that consistency is that I found many of the guys to be uncommunicative when it came to problems, or issues, or personal feelings.
I think it's a combination of that "niceness" and a "git 'r done" mentality that these guys had a hard time discussing issues or being emotional. I don't think they were cold or unfeeling, but I liked to think of it as "emotionally frugal."
Avoiding the lows and enjoying the consistency of the middle ground is great in a relationship, but not at the expense of knowing what the other party is really feeling.
Posted by Patrick on 11/04/2008 at 09:21am | permalink | Reply to this comment
P, there is a great ebook on the internet called
Dating without Drama. It's really helped me out and changed my outlook on dating. Download it and give it a read.
Don't ever sell yourself short. Make yourself happy and love will come. Don't compromise!!
angie
Posted by Angie on 11/04/2008 at 09:42am | permalink | Reply to this comment
jerk
Posted by sophie on 11/04/2008 at 09:51am | permalink | Reply to this comment
PT, you are like a good critical care/intensive care nurse, in that, when the situation is changing rapidly, you can quickly shift gears, wheel around, anticipate (new) needs and FUNCTION.
You are also like the football squad members, on the run, quickly looking over your shoulder, putting up your arms, even if you are off-balance, to catch the pass, and run for the yardage–if not for the TD. You have an injury? Sure. But you soldier-on.
I am guessing you don't want to hear anything mean-spirited about the farmer. You hold him dear, probably, even now, after the serial dumping.
I once got dumped by a guy I held dear. He wasn't a great communicator about emotional thing/relationship things, but he did say "It is not YOU. It is ME." That was his whole explanation. I had much to think about over time, trying to interpret that short explanation . . . He came back into the family a year later. And he was killed a year after that. Loss has many faces and many meanings . . .
I am now with a guy who quietly supports my rabbitiness and mood-swings. He knows I have good judgment, am changeable, can turn on a dime. He accepts that I am tense and intense. He is benefitting from my creativity and my good ideas, and my rapid analysis skills. He KNOWS that I HAVE to push and push-back . . . I keep the drama up and going, and he seems to be able to live with that. I KNOW I am not easy to live with . . . I appreciate him, his calm and stability. It is a good foil for me. He lets me be myself. It is not too exciting, but it is
good–it is Zen-mellow. I need that.
Judy Blume: So we return to your investment in writing. Methings thou dost protest too much (in another post, recently) about NOT needing to write a book. You need to write SOMETHING, if not a book. Is your blog enough for you? Write-on, PT!
Your new blog or your new book should have the term "resilience" in it, don't you think?
CAK
Posted by chris keller on 11/04/2008 at 10:00am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned one of Penelope's recent Twitter feeds dated 10/24/08 – "I made a deal that the farmer can see my posts before they run. He says trying to control what I write is like holding water in his hand." – http://twitter.com/penelopetrunk/statuses/973717937
You don't have to read between the lines as the word control is there in the feed. However we don't know if he actually used the word control. I don't know how you could ever expect to control Penelope's writings or any writer for that matter. I read this 140 character or less feed as an element of mistrust between Penelope and the farmer. This Twitter said something much more about the relationship rather than the individuals.
Posted by Mark W. on 11/04/2008 at 11:35am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, wonderful post and so beautifully open of you to share your pain, sorrow and struggles with us. I always wonder how I can show my true self yet still be professional in my blog, and you've certainly shown us the way. Cheers to you. Clearly he was NOT deserving of you!
Posted by Lara Kretler on 11/04/2008 at 11:53am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am still struggling to understand the American blog world. If this is true and real, the dumping I mean, I am sorry, I hope this is not the general "American way" to do it…I am amazed that you write so openly about your personal relationship struggles and kind of wrap it into career advice, but of course, I have always wondered how people can perform "on stage" when something awful happened to them shortly before the "performance". I guess that is called professional. The whole post leaves me still with the impression that life is very "dynamic" at your end of the world and I would probably feel like going insane with managing it all. Good you don't, seems that you have the "7 lives of a cat" in your backpack :-).
Posted by Juki Schor on 11/04/2008 at 12:26pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
That relationship was doomed from the beginning. You need someone who can be your equal… he just wasn't. You are doing great!
Posted by Ulyana on 11/04/2008 at 12:27pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
How awesome are you to have the guts to express yourself and tell thousands of readers how you feel and still remain professional.
Some individuals don't express themselves when they should with people they've known for years!
Then you pull off a presentation after your ordeal. Keep on kickin' butt cause you're the real deal sister.
Take care of yourself and if farmer guy calls, don't even pick up the phone. He had a gift and passed it up. Keep on expressing yourself-just not to him. He seems like someone who passes up opportunities a lot. You clearly are not that way.
Anyhow Judy Blume is wonderful. Any chick that has banned books under her belt is okay with me. Here's to empires and fearless expression.
Posted by Jordan on 11/04/2008 at 02:11pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
We are all drawn to Penelope because she bares all on her blog. And, you may recall, this is what drew the farmer to her. If the break-up is in part due to her revealing posts, then the farmer was a fool, for he should have known what he was getting into. Based on the posts, the farmer seemed like a fine man, but not the right man.
Penelope was dumped for being her direct, imperfect self. Penelope, wait for someone who "gets" you. Better yet, don't get involved with a guy until you "get" yourself. Another suggestion – seek friendship with other strong women who feel as together/messed up as you do.
Posted by Grace on 11/04/2008 at 02:15pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I was at the ERE conference for Penelope's talk on Wednesday…without a doubt the best session of the conference. She even took the time to help boost my self confidence.
I wish I could do the same for her right now.
Posted by Leanne on 11/04/2008 at 02:23pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm a Wisconsin-born woman who dated "Wisconsin nice" men and I agree with Patrick that they don't do well with communication about issues or personal feelings.
My fiance dumped me by phone just before my finals my first year in business school. So I feel for you! Turned out to be the best thing that could have happened to me. I learned that I could try at something, miserably fail and still survive and thrive. And I found out that I needed a different kind of partner in my life, which I have now. He came from California, if you're wondering where to look for one! :)
You'll be OK. But I agree that you should take the time to grieve a tough year of loss.
Posted by Jill on 11/04/2008 at 02:34pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thanks for the edit list of helps for going into that meeting even when you are experiencing loss. That should be added to the original post.
Because we've all been there.
@Jill: Ditto on the "Wisconsin nice". That also goes for "Illinois cool".
Posted by Lane on 11/04/2008 at 04:01pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Nice post, Penelope. We all cry at work occasionally. Few of us are brave enough to blog about it.
Posted by Laura on 11/04/2008 at 04:16pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow, farmboy showed some sense. I guess they's smarter than I thunk in Nebraska.
Posted by John on 11/04/2008 at 11:17pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'd have to say, as a writer, that the final two lines of this post are the smartest two closing lines of any blog post I have ever read. Effing brilliant! It's as if you're saying to the VC-lurkers "Here I am. Take me, warts and all, 'cuz that's where the money is."
But careful. The obvious follow up questions any self-respecting VC-lurker will have are "What business is Judy Blume in?" and "What business are you trying to establish?"
Is it publishing? Fine if it is, but is publishing a business that your VCs understand and can add value to you as a partner? It took Judy Blume decades to become "an empire." My first hand experience with VCs is that none of them can wait that long.
Your fan,
Harry
PS – "… the universal tweet response was that I should get out of the relationship." You're getting your relationship advice from a liberal internet mob? Sounds like a great way to drive your life into bigger ditch than it may already be in. Call me anytime. You have my number.
Posted by Harry Joiner on 11/04/2008 at 11:18pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Love your blog, have read every one and can really relate in many ways. I didn't meet my husband until I was 30 and thought I would be single forever. Then I met him and I learnt the secret, which I will now share.
Good relationships are easy.
The right guy will say, do whatever you need to and I will always be there for you. They will be so nice to you all the time that you just want to be nice right back.
Don't persevere if it's tough, get out. Pain is not a sign of love.
We have all been there, tyring to juggle it all. Just wanted you to know that there are guys out there who will ring you two hours before a big meeting to say they love you no matter what.
That's what you deserve, hang in there.
Posted by Kate on 11/05/2008 at 02:29am | permalink | Reply to this comment
PS Judy Blume rocks
Posted by Kate on 11/05/2008 at 02:30am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This is only my second comment in approximately three years of reading your blog, but I thought this might be an appropriate moment to let you know how much I admire you and enjoy reading your blog. Thanks for sharing your life and hard-earned wisdom with us.
Posted by Matthew on 11/05/2008 at 08:45am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thanks god the farmer is gone! I've been holding back, since he keeps lurking, but I hope he is gone for good (if not, you will have a hard time admitting it to all of us!) If you stayed with him, he would just do this again, before another important meeting. If you married him, he'd be calling up asking for a divorce before important meetings. Ugh. I always thought he was just a rebound relationship, anyway.
I am sure you will be able to hold your life together. Hire some more people to help you! (Alternately, fly your best friends in to cheer you up!)
Thanks for the reply to Karen about how to get through the meeting, which you seem to have forgotten about in your post.
But you glossed over what Karen suggested in her post, which I want to second: Don't be frustrated that they want advice on starting blogs–charge them! Not only can you make money doing this, and expand your personal brand, but you can get to know key people by working closely with them on something they care about.
Posted by Rachel on 11/05/2008 at 09:49am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I was feeling sad, like I was going to burst into tears, because I left my job without one to go to a little while ago and it was getting to me. It is getting to me.
I thought that maybe if I read your blog it would remind me that I left my job for the right reasons, that the "rules" of career change are out-moded and that I should be congratulating myself for forcing the change that I need in my life.
Then I read your story about being dumped. He dumped you, I dumped my job… I feel like having my career up in the air is the defining facet of my identity right now, while you were feeling the opposite. It made me feel better to realize that I have a lovely relationship to be thankful (and not teary) for. So maybe it'll make you feel better to know that there are others out there who are struggling, aching, yearning to find work that fits them, that means something to them and that doesn't make them cry. You have that and it's a beautiful, meaningful, ever-changing thing.
And today you helped me.
Posted by Katherine on 11/05/2008 at 10:43am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I wanted to pour my heart back out to you here because your words really touched me. I don't know if you know how much your honesty means. I spent last night pouring my heart out in my own blog and was simultaneously scared and compelled to do so and this morning, I feel comforted by your own confessions because it helps me feel that somehow I am not alone.
I too worry about all the same things you mentioned. I am so sorry for your loss of the relationship. The timing is terrible, there are no words to express all you must be feeling inside. Keep writing, it's beautiful. Big hugs…
Posted by spleeness on 11/05/2008 at 11:00am | permalink | Reply to this comment
It's good you found your phone, Penelope. It really is.
Posted by Jason on 11/05/2008 at 11:07am | permalink | Reply to this comment
One more thing. I'm reading other people's comments. Someone wrote: "seek friendship with other strong women who feel as together/messed up as you do."
To this I'd like to requote (sorry, I don't know the original source): "The only people who are normal are the ones you don't know."
Everyone feels a mess inside at some point or other. The stronger ones can talk about it.
Keep talking, Penelope. Your strength, courage and vulnerability moves us all.
Posted by spleeness on 11/05/2008 at 11:07am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Lyrics from an old song captures this exactly:
There's no business like show business like no business I know
Everything about it is appealing, everything that traffic will allow
Nowhere could you get that happy feeling when you are stealing that extra bow
There's no people like show people, they smile when they are low
You get word before the show has started that your favorite uncle died at dawn
Top of that, your pa and ma have parted, you're broken-hearted, but you go on
There's no business like show business and I tell you it's so
Yesterday they told you you would not go far, that night you open and there you are
Next day on your dressing room they've hung a star, let's go on with the show!!
Posted by Regina on 11/05/2008 at 11:21am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Your previous posts about you and the farmer always bothered me a bit. The words that you used to describe some of your experiences made it sound like he was always trying to teach you something or mold you in some way. It doesn't surprise me, then, that he's not good at long term relationships.
Contrary to popular belief, if you have to work so hard to make a relationship work, maybe it's not going to work.
Good relationships should not be hard, you shouldn't have to "make it work" with someone to be successful, and you certainly shouldn't feel like you need to live up to someone else's image of what you should be.
On balance, being with your partner should give you energy and make you feel good about yourself. If that ain't happenin' (especially 4 months into it), move on and know you did it as a sign of self-love.
Posted by Jennifer on 11/05/2008 at 12:03pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"I'm sick of direct and honest. I want nice."
Like a lot of women, you want to be lied to. Good luck with that.
Posted by JB on 11/05/2008 at 12:40pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope
The farmer just gave you the space you need to make room for someone new in your life.
I was dumped like that about 18 years ago by phone in a humiliating way—but I am grateful. A week later I went on a fun date with a fantastic man who I have now been married to for 16 years.
Posted by Leslie on 11/05/2008 at 02:46pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
You're nuts.
Posted by Steve on 11/05/2008 at 05:08pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
PT — I'm sorry. Being dumped stinks.
Posted by Amanda on 11/06/2008 at 09:10am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I "discovered" PT when I attended the PRSA conference in Detroit. She was the highlight of an otherwise worthless conference. Her personal brand is awesome and its value immeasurable. Some VC will realize that soon.
Posted by Gary on 11/06/2008 at 10:13am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Time to get serious about making things work with the farmer. Put your other items on the back burner to be either brought back later or thrown out.
Posted by Leroy Jethro on 11/06/2008 at 05:37pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Go, Penelope!! Mighty gutsy to share all this not only with us, your intimates, but with the investors (yikes!). Would Hillary have done this? how about Sarah?
Who cares about the guy…plenty of fish in that ocean. I know, at 66, still plenty of men in my life. And, as a mother, think the guy isn't nearly as important as the kids and the earning money parts, and, as you are in Madison, I think there are plenty of cool fish, eventually.
Posted by Connie Mettler on 11/07/2008 at 03:53pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm so sorry to hear about the breakup. That sucks.
But my mom always says, "When someone tells you who they are, believe them." [she is a genius]
Posted by Jennifer Lynn on 11/07/2008 at 04:32pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm very sorry for your loss. But it appears this guy is not treating you right, and you don't feel good in the relationship. Every relationship either energizes you, or depletes you (think about it, it's true). It's clear from your comments here this is a depleting relationship, that often leaves you feeling BAD. Whoever you are with, you need to feel GOOD.
Don't be so hard on yourself about this relationship. THANK YOUR LUCKY STARS you're getting out NOW, and that you're not married to this guy! Often, looking back, you can see the signs of how someone will treat you much earlier than you imagine.
I remember clearly your discomfort when he peed in the front yard ON THE FIRST DATE. To me, that said, "I'm all about MYSELF and MY feelings," as opposed to caring about YOU and YOUR feelings. Is it any wonder this guy hasn't been in a relationship longer than four months?
Don't beat yourself up for not recognizing this. Try to use it as a useful learning experience. I once had a similar experience. The biggest thing I learned from it is that I hope to share with my daughter (who is now in her teen years) to NOT waste time with ANY man who starts putting you down, or trying to "control" early in the relationship. It doens't bode well.
Good luck.
Eileen
Dedicated Elementary Teacher Overseas (in the Middle East)
elementaryteacher.wordpress.com
Posted by Eileen on 11/08/2008 at 01:12am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I had a job interview this week, my first in forever. I didn't want the job and was using it as a practice interview so I didn't prepare at all. I only realized how amazing the job was when I got there. Then I got nervous.
The first day went badly. Very. I knew I wouldn't get it and I wanted to leave but I soldiered through the second day because that's just what you do. Second day turned out worse. I'm still recovering from the embarrassment.
I even did the chocolate bar thing. Twice. Usually helps but not this time.
So reading about you struggling through your pitch under less than ideal circumstances has cheered me up immensely. If someone as motivated, smart and experienced as yourself has days like this I'm not going to beat myself up over mine.
Posted by Anthony on 11/08/2008 at 05:32am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I feel your pain. I'm so sorry this happens to you, or to anybody. I'm 23 and kept quiet until recently about the 2 year cyclical dumping by my boyfriend. I could kick myself for all the times I thought of him as my moon and stars when he was really just not ready for a serious relationship. Now, the truth comes out.. he hurt me sooo many times and I'm not going to beg for him to stay with me. Standing up for yourself takes guts.
Love is not easy and it's unfair how some men make us choose between our career or our family. I'm still in school, but I hope that one day I can be as professional as you in juggling personal/work life. Thank you for sharing your wisdom through your writing!
Posted by kat on 11/08/2008 at 11:57am | permalink | Reply to this comment
The divorce thing can often be a catalyst for these continual rebound type relationships. When you're in these relationships and people tell you they're rebound, you don't believe them. But then a few years go by after your divorce, and you look back at all of the reject situations you put yourself in and you're like "thank god I didn't stay with that person and thank god he dumped me!" It's been almost four years now since my divorce, and my measure of success in both personal and professional relationships is this "Am I my best self when surrounded by this person? Does this person or situation inspire me to live my best life and reach my fullest potential the majority of the time?" If the answer is "no," i now pick up my emotions, without a bat of an eye, and leave. It's not always easy, but I can tell you now I know how good it feels to be inspired by beautiful and wonderful people.
Don't be sad about the farmer, and as my fellow divorced friends and I often say.. date, date, date.. that's really the best way to get detached from the one who keeps holding you back.
Also, I can promise you, you will look back at the farmer and have one of those "thank god" moments and also one of those moments where you say to yourself "what was I thinking?" I promise. :)
Good luck… and date, date, date.
Posted by Nichole on 11/09/2008 at 12:13am | permalink | Reply to this comment
In both your personal and professional life, you are waiting for the next big relationship – the right guy, the right big investor.
With regard to you personal life, you know how to pick them, Penelope. First, a guy who wouldn't do oral sex; next, a 40 year old guy who has never been in a long term relationship.
Next time, before you elevate them to the level beyond an interesting night out, stop and think about whether the relationship has a chance given the guy's issues. Once you sort through that, you can figure out whether it has a chance given your own issues (and we all have issues, although yours are just a bit more convoluted and intense than most).
On the company, I would be kind of pissed if I were one of the Ryans and you were showing up at a major VC opportunity unprepared. Of course, if I were you, I would be annoyed to get there and find out the guy doesn't even know what site is the company's.
Here's the important part: take a moment and imagine a world where those next big relationships don't happen. I'm not predicting disaster; I'm just suggesting that you imagine a world where salvation doesn't come over the hill like the US cavalry in an old western.
What would a happy Penelope look like if she didn't have a guy in her life?
What would a surviving (and thriving) Brazen Careerist look like if that next big drop of investor capital doesn't come?
If you are living in a mind set where salvation doesn't have to come from outside, it's more likely to find you.
Posted by The Gardener on 11/09/2008 at 05:01am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
I love you, man. In a Bud Light sort of way. Because I'm married and happy. But if I weren't, I'd be looking up your next speaking engagement. As I read today, I wondered, how could a woman with so much confidence in at least some areas of her life, want to try to convince a guy to stay with her? Next time a guy wants to dump you, tell him he can kiss your fine white ass. (Just giving you the benefit of the doubt.)If he has second thoughts and comes back, then you've got something to think about. If not, to hell with him. If he does it a second time, put a block on his cell number. Lots of guys out there'd love to hook up with a cute, quick-witted future empire builder. What? Cute's a bad word? Dang, you ARE harsh.
Posted by Frank on 11/10/2008 at 04:44am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Why are you still using water-soluble mascara? You can now get both mascara and lipstick that you can SLEEP in and it will still look okay. You should try this, because it is awesome.
Posted by Amy on 11/10/2008 at 02:26pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Have been thinking some more about why it was so great that you said Judy Blume. And what to say when asked "What does Judy Blume have to do with being a CEO?" There are actually lots of reasons why she was a great choice.
- her task was to reach a target market in her field that is generally considered one of the hardest of all to crack, the 'young adult' reader(yours is Gen Y, also a toughie)
- she figured out how to 'speak' to these people in their own language (just like you)
- they flocked to her in droves and devoured every word she said (just like you)
- she turned her name into the best-known brand in her field (just like you)
- she is one of the most successful people in her (very difficult) field of all time (just like you are/want to be)
- she is a woman, she is respected, she is well-known and she is successful. (again like you are/want to be)
Wow! Upon reflection, what an inspired choice.
Posted by Kate on 11/12/2008 at 01:47am | permalink | Reply to this comment
(((HUGS))) And thank you for the excellent example and the great advice. I'm moving from entry-level to mid-career and am now realizing that meetings are must attend despite whatever I'm feeling at the time. I, too, am recently divorced and some days feel like laying on the floor under my desk and sobbing. Yesterday was one of those days. Work is actually the one thing that keeps me going. I love my job. I say turn your passion for your career into motivation to perform well no matter what you are feeling! :)
Posted by PT-LawMom on 11/12/2008 at 12:50pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penny,
now would be the perfect opportunity for you to stop shooting yourself in the foot – metaphorically speaking.
What caused this to occur? What caused it the last time? See the pattern and break the cycle. It doesn't get any simpler or (unfortunately) any more difficult:(
My two cents worth
Dale
Posted by Dale on 11/16/2008 at 01:39am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am new to the blog hemasphere, but my parents both whom had their own seperate businesses, (starting from 40 years ago) raised their 5 children, my mother went on after my father passed to continue being a parent and provider. She taught me that life is a struggle every day. It is also how we face that challenge that makes us so much better and stronger. She was in a "man's" world and faced so much crap at every level, from everyone. She is 67 and still working, and lived on past the majority of the doubters. The connections have changed with the times, and so has my mother. She is still thriving, still successful, forever my hero and has five successful children who love her. Your heart will break, your efforts are never useless, and self doubt is everyone's companion.
Thank You for posting your blog, I am happy I found it. I am passing it on to my daughter, friends and other women I know. Keep a strong support team, they are priceless.
Sandra
Posted by Sandra on 12/01/2008 at 09:39am | permalink | Reply to this comment
My two cents is I agree heartily with Jennifer and Nichole above. I recently broke up (or, rather, accepted the break up card from my spouse of six years, after 11 years together). Much of our time together had me saying that I'd do "whatever" he wanted, or I'd change however he wanted me to, to hold it together. We both finally realized it just was not going to happen. To him a job is a job; to me, I need to feel that I'm contributing. My approach may be harder, or at least more challenging, but his not accepting it never made it any easier. I got used to thinking he was in the right, that I did need to change, that I focused on a satisfying career too much, and I was a horrible wife. Since our split, I've decided to go back to school fulltime (second Masters) and am applying only to jobs that I actually want. I spend my time volunteering, talking to people, going out and generally trying to live in the moment. I've discovered that me without him = me without a whole lot of layers of insecurities. And I think (this is all pretty new to me still) but it seems like the people you want to respond to you respond when you're being genuine. I hope that one day, while being genuine and trying to be my best self, I'll meet someone. Or maybe not. But if I'm living my life as I want to live –no longer tormented by the ghosts of all my faults and perceived inadequacies–and just enjoying myself, that's the best way to live, alone or with someone.
Posted by Mira on 12/01/2008 at 05:56pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thanks for your article .. this is what happens with me mostly!!
Posted by Los Angeles Real Estate Club on 06/29/2009 at 09:09am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow. I am enthralled. Honestly, I've never read many blogs before. I just happened upon this on through a bing.com search. What you wrote, though- was so compelling and honest- I really felt the need to tell you so. And for you to write about it in this fashion takes so much integrity. I'm not looking upon this post as in a 'oh, wow. this is interesting.' sort of way. The way you write..I feel I'm there with you. Makes me wish I were there when the jackass farmer broke up with you to give you a big hug. You know, most people couldn't have gotten through this. It takes courage and a whole lot of strength. As an aspiring writer and musician – who also hopes to own their own business soon I can relate to this SO much. Thank you for posting it.
Posted by Stephanie on 07/11/2009 at 05:47am | permalink | Reply to this comment