When I was a kid, there was money everywhere. My great grandpa was a lawyer for the Chicago mob in the 1920s, and today, my dad's generation is still living off that money. Sometimes I wonder if the key to being able to squash materialism is to have a lot of it as a kid. I'm not sure. But let me tell you this: I grew up with a laundress and a housekeeper and unlimited cash from a drawer in the dining room.
When I went to college my parents cut off my money. I think this might have been normal at the time. I remember crying. Really. Crying over the fact that I'd never be able to shop at Lord & Taylor. But it didn't take long for me to see that people don't wear Lord & Taylor skirts to class. In fact, I realized that most people don't wear Lord & Taylor skirts anywhere because some of those skirts could feed a family for a month.
1. Test the meaning of money by doing stuff that's scary.
One of the first things I did after college was sell three strings of pearls to get myself to Los Angeles. I was really scared when I did it, but in fact, the only time I missed those pearls was when my mom asked where they were.
When I was making a lot of money, I had great work clothes and a BMW (hey, I lived in LA), but that was about it, in terms of splurging. I kept an inexpensive apartment, and people used to tell me I was nuts to live there when I had so much money. They told me I was uncomfortable with success, and I worried they were right, but I stayed there. In hindsight, I realize it felt safe to live somewhere I could afford if my company went bankrupt. Which it did.
2. Put a bunch of stuff in storage to see what it's like.
When I moved from Los Angeles to New York City my husband and I rented a 500-square-foot apartment. We told ourselves we'd only be there for a year, until we got more settled in the city. So we put all our books in storage, most of our furniture, clothes that were not in season and everything we wouldn't be using in the next three or four months.
The only way I could put the stuff in storage was to tell myself I could go back and forth every week getting stuff I missed. We ended up staying there six years. We took almost nothing out of storage.
I quote Daniel Gilbert all the time about how we can adapt to anything. Gilbert says that we think some changes will be terrible – like losing a limb – but in fact we are great at adapting to circumstances that don't change. This is true of putting stuff in storage. You quickly learn to live without it.
3. Understand the concept of aspirational clutter. Get reality and throw stuff out.
When we had a baby, we thought we would move for sure, but 9/11 was too traumatic. It didn't feel like the right time to move. So we threw stuff out, and we learned a lot about how what you keep in your small apartment is a statement about your values.
So much of what we hold on to is what we wish we were using — objects that commemorate a life we aspire to but do not have. The six books we bought a year ago and haven't read, for example. We don't want to admit that we're not making time to read, so we save them. The treadmill is another object that is loaded because if you throw it out you're admitting to yourself that you're never going to use it. Keeping it, even unused, maintains your dream of getting into shape.
In fact, we had to think very hard about every single thing we let into the apartment, and we instituted a rule that if you brought something in, you had to take something out. Maybe other New Yorkers in small spaces had this rule, too, because there is always really good stuff left on doorsteps in New York City.
Then we had another baby. And that was it. With four people living in 500 square feet, I started having recurring dreams about living in a bigger space and I'd wake up to be disappointed that it was only a dream. I decided the small space was driving me crazy, and I started compiling research about where to move.
4. Know this: You could dump everything if you had to.
And then we got bed bugs. We didn't know that much about them but we captured a bug and checked it on the Internet. When I left the landlord a message to tell him we had bed bugs, our usually completely inaccessible landlord called me ten times in one day. I should have known we were in big trouble.
In fact, our whole building had bed bugs, and maybe the whole city. There is a lot written about bed bugs. There is an epidemic in the United States at all levels of the economic spectrum. (Our bed bug expert said that the worst clients he had were up and down Park Avenue because they felt they had been assaulted by the dirty underclass.)
Bed bugs bite you in your sleep. We had two kids under four years old, and I started staying up all night keeping the bugs off them. Finally the landlord paid for a hotel (about $300 a night in NYC) while we negotiated with him about what to do.
The bugs and their eggs could be in anything in the apartment made of fabric or wood. Here's how long the bugs can live without food: eighteen months. There is no way we could starve them. We had to poison them. And the only way to do that is to get them to come out of hiding and walk through the poison. The only thing they'll come out for is human blood.
How would they get human blood? We had to live in the apartment. What do people on Park Avenue do? The staff lives there while the family goes to the summer home or a hotel. What do the not-rich people do? Use themselves as bait. That's what our neighbors did.
We tried using ourselves as bait for one night, and every bug (by now there were forty or fifty a night) went for the kids. I developed near complete insomnia, always fearing that the kids were getting bitten as soon as I shut my eyes, even in broad daylight when the bugs are asleep.
The bed bug expert said that the most common thing he sees is that people move, but they won't give up their stuff, so they take the bedbugs with them. We had two kids bitten everywhere. We took no chances and we took with us only things that could be boiled in hot in water or thrown in a hot dryer – to ensure no bugs. We took from that apartment less than half of the size of a small U-Haul truck. We left almost everything.
5. Throwing stuff out is not wasteful.
In Madison, we started with just about nothing. Sort of like college kids. You think that throwing everything out is so costly and such a waste of money. But in fact it taught us how little we needed most of the stuff we had, which made us buy much less going forward.
While we have bought a lot since we got here, the years in New York City taught us about living in a small footprint (we still have one of the smallest two bedrooms around) and losing all our stuff to the bed bugs taught us that we didn't really need much after all.
People often ask me how was I able to switch careers so many times (professional volleyball, corporate marketing, entrepreneurship…) And how have I been able to do so many high risk things (for example take a 70% pay cut and start new as a freelance writer when I had my first baby and was supporting the family.) The answer is that I had very little to lose.
It's a cliché for a reason. If you have a very low-cost lifestyle and very few physical things that you treasure, you cannot really imagine a rug being pulled out from under you because you don't own that great a rug anyway.
People think that what's holding them back from taking risk is some big financial idea of stability and well being, but it's really fear of losing your comfortable material life, whatever that is. Mine is so spare that I can easily replace it, even if we got bed bugs again.
Which we won't. Because we had our new house treated before we moved in; even big risk takers draw the line somewhere.









Man, this was just what I needed to read today. This particularly struck me:
"People think that what’s holding them back from taking risk is some big financial idea of stability and well being, but it’s really fear of losing your comfortable material life, whatever that is."
Or mental comfort, even if it's truly uncomfortable, it's known so much easier to cling to. It's just habituation. That's what I'm dealing with it. And I don't even have a rug to be pulled out from under me now, let alone a fancy one, so I really have nothing to lose. And that's a great place to be right now.
Posted by Joselle on 08/07/2007 at 12:10pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Great column!
Maybe this is why I feel so uncomfortable, now that I've hit a point where my life is comfortable.
Posted by HollyP on 08/07/2007 at 12:14pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope – Thanks for the very truthful and insightful post. So many times we get caught up hoarding "things" that we fail to remember what is necessary and important. Always climbing the corporate ladder just to acquire additional stuff leads one to an empty and unfulfilled life, not to mention a sometimes stressful existence. Though I have not experienced the 500 sq. ft. apartment with a family or a complete wipe out due to bed bugs, it seems that each time I have moved I realize how much unnecessary junk I have accumulated. Thanks for your honest and insightful look at career management. You have a way with words and truly speak to relevant issues!
Posted by Matt Rearden on 08/07/2007 at 12:43pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Just read Joselle's comment (it was being written simultanious with mine) and I have to agree 100%. The fear of changing jobs, careers, or location has more to do with losing what you have than taking the risk to do what you truly desire.
Posted by Matt Rearden on 08/07/2007 at 12:45pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
You’ve touched on so many interesting topics in this post. I’ll only comment on the stuff in storage — what compels people to spend money on storing their idle belongings? Awhile back, Tom Vanderbilt at Slate wrote this fantastic article about the self storage business.
He writes, “One in 11 American households, according to a recent survey, owns self-storage space — an increase of some 75 percent from 1995… How did self storage, or ‘mini storage,’ as it’s sometimes called, become such an enormous enterprise? And what on earth are people keeping in there?”
The two main culprits: mobility (used during a move… the average American will change residences 11 times in his/her life) along with the greater evil: consumerism.
“Throwing stuff out is not wasteful.” Not buying it in the first place is even better! Thanks for such a thoughtful post.
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That is SO interesting. Having been in New York City for so long, it didn't even occurr to me how weird storage space is. Great new perspective. Thanks, Nina.
–Penelope
Posted by Nina Smith on 08/07/2007 at 12:58pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I agree and I love that phrase. My job ended (temporary requirement for a degree) and I was forced to move home and put nearly everything I own in storage. It was a little weird, but I grew to love it. Stuff clutters your life and soon you are busy dealing with the "stuff" that you can't remember how you got it or why you want it, but refuse to throw it away.
It was very freeing to live without all the "stuff". It has made me a picky shopper and I try to minimize the junk and the extra, material stuff. Rather, I try to save money and use it for experiences I will enjoy.
Also, I read a great book my Micheal Pink about this topic..
Posted by McK on 09/11/2009 at 10:02am | permalink | Reply to this comment
A needed reminder of us all.
Posted by RayC22 on 08/07/2007 at 01:02pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
This is very good advice. The reason we have been able to make the leap to relying on full-time freelance income is that when we were making money we paid down debt and built up savings. We live on very little so we can be flexible in our choices.
Posted by dawn on 08/07/2007 at 01:41pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Ding, ding, ding…that is the sound of a bell going off in my head!! What excellent advice, I just need to reprogram my life and habits!!
Posted by Sue on 08/07/2007 at 01:47pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Very good read.
My husband and I are fairly good at living modestly. We can afford to buy stuff but choose not to.
I myself am one of those organizing freaks that holds on to very few things. I hold on to a few sentimental items, but for the most part I pitch.
My husband and I moved three times in two years. I learned to treasure a few things but recognize the "stuff" for what it was: useless clutter that didn't make my life that much better.
Posted by Erin Hallstrom-Erickson on 08/07/2007 at 01:48pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Great post! But something really funny's just happened – of ALL the stuff you've posted before, nothing's made me baulk more than the info that your grandpa was a lawyer for the Chacago mob!! LOL!! (wonder what that says about me?!)
:)
Posted by Sarah D on 08/07/2007 at 01:56pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
The more crap you have, the bigger your house payment has to be, and the more you have to clean!
What's very useful to me is to remember how I lived when I was poor as a churchmouse and then make a mental list of the things I have now that I couldn't afford back then. This is how I distinguish between "wants" and "needs," and it makes me really appreciate the "wants" that I have.
Posted by Pirate Jo on 08/07/2007 at 01:59pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Absolutely brilliant post. Perfect.
Along this line, I discovered in my years doing personal financial planning that people are overly fixated on the concept of personal net worth when what usually makes people happy (or at least free of financial anxiety) is positive cash flow. For example, my wife and I put a ridiculously large down payment (55%) on our home to ratchet down our monthly fixed expenses. The result is a lower monthly income required to maintain our comfortable existence.
I'd certainly have a larger net worth had I gone the traditional route of 20% down and leveraged the rest, but 5 years later we're able to live comfortably on one fairly average income (working for a non-profit) which allows my wife stay home raising our kids while all of our friends have to have two incomes in order to make their mortgate palatable.
In addition to consumerism of material goods, fixed monthly expenses (huge cell phone contracts, monthly cable bills, house cleaning services, large car payments, etc), can cripple your decision making as well. Thankfully, I can't comment on bed bugging…
Posted by Brian Johnson on 08/07/2007 at 02:03pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Brian J, I have noticed the same thing! Financial planners always want you to focus on your net worth, but that doesn't really do you much good until that net worth can generate cash flow. Which would be retirement age, or whatever. Meanwhile, life is passing you by! You are *smart* to have put that money down on your house. Having your wife at home to raise the kids means something NOW – while life is happening – investing that money for retirement wouldn't do you much good until you got old, and the kids would already be grown by then. If you're going to save money, save it FOR something for crying out loud. Or just spend it!
Personally, I think I will always have to do something in the way of work, even if it is not full-time and even if it is a "for-fun" job that doesn't pay very much. I got an easily affordable mortage as well and pay ahead on it every month. That means I have less to invest in my retirement portfolio (sacrilege!) but I will be minus a house payment that much sooner and able to enjoy the flexibility it brings.
My financial planner offers good investment advice and generates good returns, but I could not get him to read "Die Broke" by Stephen Pollan. When he starts having Gen X'ers and Y'ers as his customers instead of boomers, he will be ahead of his competition if he can grasp the cash flow mindset you just explained.
Posted by Pirate Jo on 08/07/2007 at 02:44pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Great Great advice…I have friends that need to read this! They try and "trick" the system into cashflow when in actuality, if they just lived in their means they wouldn't need such a complicated system. My wife and I do a "fairly" good job living below our means – but there are times when we "Need" something. Retail Therapy can come in handy at times ;) My point is that our system is easy – (Income after savings – bills = fun). Living below our means allows us to do that. I'm not saying that we don't own things we don't need…but we also don't have anything that puts us in a position as Brian said, "Crippling" our ability to make a decision. Great line by the way! Sometimes the most simple concept takes a lifetime to learn.
Posted by Matt Bingham on 08/07/2007 at 03:13pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
You have nailed what I try to tell my friends on a daily basis. When the iPhone came out, several people I knew dropped their credit cards and spent over a grand to get their hands on one. There were hidden costs– dropping their previous account, starting a new one, buying the phone and taking themselves out of the inner-circle of friends. Since they weren’t Verizon anymore, every call cost money. Now just a month after giving in to the Apple PR machine, they are regretting their decision.
I might not be as cool as them with my old “brick” of a phone, but at least I didn’t cost myself any more money to do something I could do for free if my friends were directly in front of me.
Posted by Tim Shisler on 08/07/2007 at 03:15pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I have talked to so many people who put all their extra stuff in storage only to visit in once or twice a year. The storage rental costs really add up after awhile so it ends up that you "buy" your stored items all over again with the rental fees.
Posted by leslie on 08/07/2007 at 03:22pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope . . . you rock!
Posted by Peter Varhol on 08/07/2007 at 04:27pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Brian Johnson has it right I think, so does Charles Dickens:
"Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pound ought and six, result misery."
(Mr. Micawber, in David Copperfield).
Don't throw things away, that is wasteful. Instead put them on Craigslist or http://www.freecycle.org/
Posted by Doug K on 08/07/2007 at 05:10pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Doug – you have to throw them away if you have bedbugs. And even throwing them away, you have to put up a big sign that says "WARNING BED BUGS!!!!" so that unsuspecting college students don't take them home thinking that they've found a great, slightly used sofa on the curb on trash day. Bed bugs are bad news.
Posted by emily on 12/28/2009 at 03:56pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Clutter is the enemy!
Posted by Steve on 08/07/2007 at 05:47pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
What makes you a great blogger is that you write from experience and tell a great story.
So, now that I've stroked your ego, can your parents give me 20 grand for my start up…eh..eh…eh???
Terry
Posted by Terry on 08/07/2007 at 06:24pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
This was, indeed, a very good post.
I think you're right, though, that a very comfortable childhood informs your perspective. So let me push back and ask, Why tame materialism? Materialism–defined here as liking your creature comforts–is not inherently a bad thing. It's when you start getting greedy and abusive to other people that it starts becoming a problem.
I've been very poor (both as a child and as an adult) and I've been comfortably upper-middle-class. I far prefer the latter. And when our life brings us to an event (such as a new baby) that has the potential to upset our economic applecart, I'm generally pretty good at figuring out how to sustain our lifestyle without going into debt or retreating to a lower standard of living.
The point I guess I'm meandering toward is that "taming materialism" can also be a copout. To me, the first question to ask is, Is there a reasonable way I can raise my income to what we now need to remain comfortable? Only after I've exhausted that line of thought does "taming materialism" come into the picture.
In fact–as you and I both know from our grad school days–"taming materialism" can be an enabler for fear and laziness, as opposed to pursuing your potential as a professional and an earner. How many grad students and other professional bohos drape themselves in the nobility of poverty?
Again, I think that what you've written is very valuable–especially insofar as it's a brand-new insight for a lot of people. But I also think it can also be a seductive excuse, too.
Posted by d on 08/07/2007 at 06:41pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Now Penelope, that is One inspirational post.
And I'm not just saying so because of your grandparents links with the mob –
The fine line between mortgaging oneself to the hilt in the hope of promotion and a pay increase, and the ability to live with less to move and even take a pay cut.
PS – The bed bugs bite wherever people live. Any mattress after a few months will acquire them, they live on our dead skin, but sounds like you had their vampire cousins …
Not al bats are vampires, some are fruit bats
Posted by Quasar9 on 08/07/2007 at 08:26pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
We lived a sabbatical year in England, in a small but sparely-furnished house, and after looking into household shipping costs which no one would reimburse, we decided to move with only what we could take with us on the airplane — without paying for extra luggage! — clothes, toys, books, and all.
Amazingly? We did just fine. Nor are we "poor" people. Nor did we feel deprived. It was a *very* eye-opening experience!
The bed bugs sound awful — so sorry! We got head lice in England. I was beside myself (this was before I'd even heard of them in the US… now I know they are getting fairly common here, too.) I called the kids' school in Oxford, horrified, to report it… and instead of being banned from school, we were laughed at for being so worked up. Every kid there gets lice, multiple times usually, and no one is kept out of school because of them. Fortunately, they are a lot easier to get rid of than bed bugs (they can only live off-host for a few hours; don't fly or jump; and don't require the poisons, etc., that most Americans try to use against them.)
Posted by Almostgotit on 08/07/2007 at 08:38pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
It is amazing how materialistic our society really is. Every day we are bombarded with clever marketing campaigns convincing us that we need to have the next best thing in order to keep up with the Jones. And unfortunately, most of us take the bait and jump onto the consumption treadmill. The problem is once you are on the treadmill it is very difficult to get off.
Materialism is ultimately what holds most people back from achieving their true life's aspirations. It's a shame, but most people would rather have the shiny new BMW parked in front of their big house in the best neighborhood and be members of the local country club (boring) that truly live life.
In your post, you stated "People think that what’s holding them back from taking risk is some big financial idea of stability and well being, but it’s really fear of losing your comfortable material life, whatever that is." You clearly and eloquently hit the nail on the head with this statement. Materialism becomes an addiction and trying to break the habit naturally creates fear.
I know this fear personally. As a financial advisor, I have been lucky enough to earn a nice living. But I too have jumped onto the materialistic treadmill. Yes, I have all this "stuff," but none of it truly makes me happy.
The reality is that I would rather live a comfortable life, and have more opportunity to spend time with the people I truly care about… my family and my friends. I believe that is what brings real happiness in life. But if you need the new BMW, the big house, and the country club lifestyle, you most likely won't have the time to enjoy those things with the people that ultimately bring you the most happiness if life.
Great post as always Penelope!
Posted by John C on 08/07/2007 at 09:39pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
It was being poor that made me not afraid of being poor. Once you've been there, it's no longer the unknown and it's the unknown that's so scary.
It never occurred to me that having been well-off could also make you not afraid of being poor!
Posted by Working Girl on 08/07/2007 at 11:51pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
The 80-20 rule apparently applies to clutter too. Most of us use 20% of what we own and could get rid of the 80% that we never use but keep anyway "just in case we need it." Peter Walsh in his book "It's all too much" talks about the epidemic of acquisition, people getting buried under the crush of their own possessions — it's easy to get caught up in buying more and more (especially the lure of the newest electronic toy), but maybe it's not necessary to fill every empty space with stuff that has no purpose other than to satisfy the urge created by an advertising campaign. Now I question why I'm buying something — do I need it? Or is it something I want? Is it something I really want? Or is it something I want because someone else has it or the media tells me I should have it to be part of a herd? I long ago decided I didn't need to add more clothes to my closet just because there is a new seasonal fad (fashion designers need you to buy new stuff every year for their business bottom line; that doesn't mean you have to buy into their sales pitch). I just need to apply that rule to other things. Clearing some space and reducing the load would be a good thing. One of your best columns, Penelope. Thanks!
Posted by Dianne on 08/08/2007 at 09:59am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Another excellent post! Penelope, thanks for reminding me of what my values really are regarding "stuff."
Also: Bed bugs? Eeeeeeeeeek!
Posted by Leslie M-B on 08/08/2007 at 10:26am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Quasar9 seems to be confusing dust mites (which really do occur wherever people are) with bed bugs. They're not the same thing. Dust mites aren't even visible to the naked eye, nor do they produce a biting sensation.
Posted by J. on 08/08/2007 at 10:26am | permalink | Reply to this comment
A very timely article. Both of my wifes parents and my mother passed away within 3 months of each other in 2000/01 and we "inherited" all of their stuff. Being reluctant to throw out anything for fear that it would be a keepsake or our children would want it the "stuff" has resided in our garage for the last 6+ years. Last weekend we started going through it and are throwing away 98% of it. After reading your article I think that number will climb to 99.5%!
Posted by John Goodman on 08/08/2007 at 12:02pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am under the perception that Americans (and Canadians) aren't even aware that there is a problem with materialism, so I'm impressed with this post.
One of the factors that led to my emigration from Canada was the rampant materialism. I would hear people complaining that they didn't have money, but that was because they were spending more in a month than many people make in a year. Values were ignored in the pursuit of that almighty dollar. I didn't want to live in that type of society, or raise my (eventual) kids there.
Since I left 14 years ago, it's only gotten worse. For example, at that time weddings would be dressy, but only the occasional one would be black-tie. Now, I'm going to Canada for a wedding that is black-tie with a ridiculous budget that matches those of small countries, and I understand that this is an "understated" event. Who do people think they are?
Such waste, when people don't even have food on their table. I'm not saying that weddings are bad, but a little self-control would be nice. This keeping-up-with-the-joneses is ridiculous.
One of my professors in University, himself an immigrant to Israel from the US, once told us that the God mentioned on the American dollar is the dollar.
Life in Israel has taught me to live small and lower my dependence on expensive items. I drive a car here that 16 year olds wouldn't be caught dead in in Canada. I live in a tiny apartment with a whole bunch of kids, but I love it. There's little pressure to have fancy stuff and live fancy. Name brands, those marketing ploys, thankfully mean little here.
There is more freedom where there is less materialism.
Posted by Miriam on 08/08/2007 at 12:07pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Loved this! It did make me think though that there are a lot of people (like me) who live frugally, but still find themselves missing out on the stability and freedom that frugality can bring because of one thing: student debt. You may have already done it (though I did do a search), but I would love to see a post on this blog by you devoted to advice on dealing with large amounts of student debt. Because no matter how much scrimping and saving we do, there's still $140,000 that we have to pay back.
Posted by OHK on 08/08/2007 at 12:38pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm curious — since you took some stuff with you in a U-Haul, why didn't you bring that U-Haul to Terminix and have it gassed? This way, you could have saved more items and known for sure that you killed any lurking bed bugs. Did someone advise you against this option?
Posted by James Buggles on 08/08/2007 at 01:19pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Quasar9, you're confusing dust mites with bed bugs. Very BIG difference. Google it.
Posted by James Buggles on 08/08/2007 at 01:24pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
OHK – Absolutely agree!! It is NO fun living like a pauper despite making good money – all because you have to pay the piper (and I'm happy to pay him, since I *did* incur that debt…I'm just saying it's no fun).
Posted by Kim J. on 08/08/2007 at 03:03pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I came home from work a couple weeks ago when the Environment Agency called to tell me that my home was under a severe flood warning. I picked up the photo albums and moved them to the upstairs. I put the dog upstairs. And then i stood in the middle of the house and realised that there was absolutely nothing else that couldn't be replaced or meant all that much to me. My computer was backed up off site with all my recent photos so that about covered us.
The best wake up call I've had in years!
Posted by LaDawn on 08/08/2007 at 03:33pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
James, I like that you ask why we didn't gass the bed bugs, because this gives me a chance to reveal how uttery hopeless it is to try to get rid of them.
You can't gas them. They just don't die that way. Or else believe me, all New York landlords would do it.
Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on 08/08/2007 at 03:39pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
… taming materialism can be an enabler for fear and laziness, as opposed to pursuing your potential as a professional and an earner. How many grad students and other professional bohos drape themselves in the nobility of poverty? …
Ya know, this post was so good that reading the comments was almost as much fun as reading the original post. Good job PT. The post was full of lessons, personal and professional, and you were honest about details that many people would rather not have talked about. Telling it like it is, takes courage as well as intelligence. It's one think I admire in Gen-Y folks. (I liked the link to the cool DKNY clothes too, but that's me.) The NYT article was priceless (pun intended) and a main reasons I like PT's blog (and recommend it to others) is her excellent links. (Hey I even liked the compete.com link!)
As for the great comments, many I liked, but the above quote hit home for me. I'm one of those grad school kids that tried to say poverty was noble, and btw some spiritual traditions say the same, but the reality is that poverty is only noble if your children aren't crying for lack of food, or medicine.
The reality is, whether we like or not, the global business world is based on capital building and you build capital by having positive cash flow (as several comments correctly pointed out). But most importantly, if you value happiness, then as PT pointed out, you need to rethink your priorities because positive cash flow is not enough. You also need time with your family and friends, your loved ones, a feeling of connection, and a lack of life-threatening disasters…. Warm regards.
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Tidbit: The most popular outbound link in this post is the one about my great work clothes. I should be a spokesperson for DKNY.
–Penelope
Posted by Yvette on 08/08/2007 at 03:56pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Whew, thanks for the lifeline. Those flatscreen TV's were starting to look inviting.
Posted by Ken on 08/08/2007 at 04:11pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penny,
It must be a socio-cultural thing, but fear of loss is but one of the incidental variables that come into play when I think of doing something potentially risky in my career.
I grew up poor in the third world sense of the word. My neighbors were an extended family with 3 generations of siblings, their current partners, their children, and their children's children – all with one steady job between them -living together. Note there was just 1 wedding ring in the household – that relationship to its credit lasted 14 years – and only three of the seven to ten children present at any time had the same father.
My father and mother were teachers for 33+ years each, but at their peak career incomes, they made less than anyone here made on minimum wage in the seventies. But we were "respectable." My parents were married, had jobs, and as such had that intangible quality that made them pillars of our small commumity. NOTHING, was more important than being "respectable." And one of the main things that differentiated a respectable household from others, was the accumulation of well cared for "stuff" that was acquired over time.
Children seldom do what their parents say, but they invariably do what their parents do. My programming seems to have predisposed me to avert career risk, especially after marriage and our first of many children. I worked like a demon while going to school, and did not give up my restaurant job for 14 years – I even kept it after I graduated with my MBA from a Big Ten college. My parents collected everything! We threw nothing away, not jobs, and certainly not material things unless they were rotting, dangerous, or embarrassing :). I find myself doing the same thing much to the chagrin of my wife – who came from a more forward thinking family. It explains my intense fear of failure, my reluctance to seek better career opportunities, and my worry about how I am perceived by others – good family men do not take chances with that which feeds their family – even if they are starving slowly.
When you are poor, and black, you are often judged by others, both inside and outside of your subset of the general community, based upon what is on the outside. That which shows becomes really very important. And if getting what you want means risking what you have, the dynamic becomes even more "interesting."
When thinking about materialism, please try to see it from a multi-dimensional viewpoint. This willingness to explore different paradigms is what sets you apart, and is really important because it can only enhance your understanding of people who may be very different from yourself.
Posted by Dale on 08/08/2007 at 05:29pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Here's some advice that somene told me and I found it very insightful…Go through your closet. Pull out ever piece of clothing that you own that is too small, too big, out of style, never in style, bought for one occasion, or still has the price tags hanging on it from a year ago.
Now, put all of that stuff in a big pile in your bedroom. Next, get a chair and sit down next to the pile.
Reflect on all of the time and energy that pile took to build. How many hours did you waste shopping? What about the natural resources burned driving to get to the store? How many times have you moved it, driven to Target to figure out how to store it, how much money did you spend on it, or have you actually sold your home so you could put it all in a bigger room?
Now, for your final energy spend, pick up the pile, put it all in trash bags, and drive it down to your local homeless shelter or Goodwill. From now on, buy only quality and buy only what you need (with a few items thrown in for fun).
Posted by Jay Hargis on 08/08/2007 at 05:39pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thanks. We need people we respect to teach us that material is just that and not more. With all the problems in the world, we — moneyed or otherwise, too often toss do-re-mi in material forms at the problems. Surprise. Things usually get worse. Ethics, good stewardship of the earth, universal health care, and quality public education pre-K through college for all people are some of the orthy goals to get behind and to lose sleep or sweat over. Not collecting material beyond the basics. And anyone can define those, with a glance at your post if the imagination freezes. Will the pep talk help the crazed shopaholics filling their empty-feeling souls with that thirteenth white blouse or zillionth perfect black dress? Nah. Yet please keep sending the message.
Posted by tamar on 08/08/2007 at 06:14pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I agree with Yvette – John C's post was a bullseye for balancing out this discussion. Dale, thanks for posting your story as well – I have noticed that my parents' behavior still influences me as well. That is a good thing in many ways, but I also tend to be too risk-averse and worry too much about money if I'm not mindful of it.
Posted by Pirate Jo on 08/08/2007 at 07:03pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, you misunderstood me. I'm not talking about a bomb that you might buy at Home Depot.
If you live in a house and get bedbugs, you can hire someone to tent the house and pump vikane gas in for a day or so. This gas, first developed to kill termites, kills all insects, including bed bugs.
If you live in an apartment building, you're out of luck in most situations, but you can place your possessions in a U-Haul truck, drive out to Terminix, and have the back of the truck gassed. It should work. It's expensive, but probably cheaper than discarding all your belongings (unless you just got out of college and did all your shopping at Ikea or worse).
It sounds like you didn't know about this option.
PS: Homeowners should also check out ozone treatments, which basically does the same thing as Vikane gas.
Posted by James Buggles on 08/08/2007 at 07:52pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hi, I just started reading your blog and I like it a lot. You have a nice writing style and I enjoy how your topics unfold. Keep writing.
:)
Posted by jim on 08/08/2007 at 10:24pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope-
With a family rolling in cash from the mob payoffs, it seems you have a pretty good backstop in the event you losing everything, or all your money. How do you suggest the not so fortunate readers handle the risk of running out?
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My family doesn't work that way.
I think how families handle money is very similar to how married couples handle sex: You should never make assumptions about the rules people follow by looking at things from the outside.
Penelope
Posted by Odysseus Valise on 08/08/2007 at 10:35pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Well, this one hits me hard, but I need that. I'm a compulsive pack-rat, along with a compulsive bargain hunter, so I usually end up with some really great stuff and then just tons of junk I rarely use. So much that I have boxes labelled "garage sale" that I've carried with me in my last three moves. Seriously. I haven't even opened them in years. Thanks for this challenging post – I feel inspired to de-junk immediately.
Funny how much more desirable your parsed down version of things seems compared to my junk-hauling ways.
Posted by Tiffany on 08/09/2007 at 10:25am | permalink | Reply to this comment
The same day I read your blog I also read a counterpoint that suggested that "too many of us are living with a poverty mentality." http://summitconsulting.com/balancingact/balancingact_august07.html
The author, Alan Weiss, suggests that we cling to our fears that we don't belong — some call it the Imposter Syndrome. (Might be a good topic for you to write about). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor_Syndrome
You were able to liberate yourself by choosing to abandon materialism whereas Weiss seems to be able to liberate himself (discretionary time to do the things he wants) because of his materialism. I guess I'm a believer that it is "free will" not "free beer" that counts in the end. Cheers.
Posted by Oliver Bendzsa on 08/09/2007 at 01:13pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Great post about clutter and things we think we need. My wife and I have moved 6 times in the 12 years we've been married. Unpacking during Move #5, we found a few boxes from Move #2 that we'd never opened. After some debate, we agreed to pitch them, without opening them first. Not sure what we tossed, but fairly sure we haven't missed that stuff!
Posted by SAHD in Chicagoland on 08/09/2007 at 06:52pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm 40 and the hubby and I have been married 17 years this Saturday…we had nothing when we first got married – our 1,100 square foot house had an entire empty room in it! Now, 5 moves and three kids later, we obviously have more stuff.
But our best rule about stuff, since, it seems, we move every 3-4 years (although, I hope not, anymore)is that if we haven't opened a box since the last move, it goes to Goodwill as we pack for the current move, UNOPENED. If we didn't need it in years, there's no point in opening the box.
Posted by L. Bates on 08/09/2007 at 07:06pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
This concept of how much is enough is something I've been struggling with for a while. My situation got to the point that I was going to move into a tent for the summer until I could get back on my feet and get an apt. Instead I moved into a one bedroom apt with a friend and got rid of most of my "stuff". I do have a storage unit that I share with a grown daughter but when she moves her stuff out I'm getting rid of it. The only thing I miss is the hundreds of books I don't have room for anymore. Going to the library is a nice alternative but I have an emotional attachment to my books and they are hard to let go. Loved the article. Keep them coming.
Posted by Carol Saha on 08/10/2007 at 03:29pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Very interesting RESPONSE rate to this posting Penelope. I feel that the next decade in America will try and put a little reversal on the instant gratification age… The credit markets today, the insane amount of "stuff" that is available to our kids today… I see glimpses all around that our cyclical world just might make a move back to values, less is more, etc. I'm hoping so at least :)
Posted by JG on 08/10/2007 at 05:19pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thank you for the timely post. I completely agree with what you've said, but that doesn't make it any easier to part with my "stuff"!
My husband and I are relocating to an area with a significantly higher cost of living for our jobs, and are going to have to downsize significantly in the process (2300sf house to 1000sf apartment). The prospect of getting rid of a lot of what we have worked so hard for is daunting to say the least. I'm not sure why we are so attached to things like our furniture. Perhaps because the furniture is a tangible representation of a goal that we've achieved? (In most cases, that goal has been saving up money to buy high quality furniture for our house with cash instead of on credit.)
I know that if we had to part with all of our furniture and other "stuff" in an emergency (flood/fire/bedbugs), it would be ok (not easy, but ok). For some reason I find that it is much harder to make a conscious choice to get rid of things in a non-emergency situation.
Posted by Cyndi on 08/10/2007 at 06:33pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I love and agree with every point. Another terrific post, Penelope.
This is a topic close to my heart in the last few years. I find it faacinating how countercultural it's become to be thrifty and eceonomical with possessions. A couple of generations ago it was a virtue – now it's slandered as a lack of material ambition, or even being miserly.
Extraneous possessions are *stressful*. Every single item isn't just owned by you – it owns you right back. It demands a slice of your time, of your house, of your peace of mind. If it never gets used and you know all too well how much you spent on it, then it spreads across your inner calm like dry-rot….
*Necessities*: what we need.
*Stuff*: what we don't need but we want.
*Junk*: what we don't need and we don't really want. Usually bought for the thrill of buying.
The Backpack Game (similar to your suggestions):
next week, you're walking to a bus-stop a couple of miles away that will take you to a plane that is flying somewhere exotic, where you'll be spending the next decade. You can only take what you can carry – and you have an item of hand-luggage and a 45/55/70-litre rucksack. You have a week to sell / give away the rest. What stays and what goes?
(I think this would be called 'The Zen Of Travel').
Posted by Mikeachim on 08/12/2007 at 06:49am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This post is interesting and raises many good points.
I do think, though, that for someone who was raised with money and probably has every expectation of a generous inheritance, it's much easier to "tame materialism" than for people who are trying to cover their living costs as well as saving for college, retirement, and caring for elderly parents of limited means. It's not as hard to let "stuff" go if you know that, if push came to shove, you could reach into the livingroom drawer to replace it.
Posted by kneurotyk on 08/12/2007 at 03:37pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thanks for posting this.
Posted by Nikos on 08/12/2007 at 04:00pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, another great blog and you have very interesting readers who make great comments.
Oliver James goes even further and in his book "Affluenza" makes the case that materialism is responsible for causing depression, anxiety,etc and basically infecting our society so people live in a totally insane unhappy manner.
I blogged about an American group called the compactors who got a lot of abusive publicity for harming the American economy because they made a compact to spend as little as possible. You don't seem to be encountering this at all, so views do seem to be changing.
A last word from J. Brotherton
"My riches consist not in the extent of my possessions but in the fewness of my wants"
Posted by Carol Quovadis on 08/13/2007 at 12:16pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
I'm so glad I read this today. My husband and I are moving to a house. Just a tad bigger than our condo, but the bedrooms are a tad smaller. But with a better layout. I was freaking out about the closet space. Being a fashion whore and a vintage clothing dealer, closet space is essential. but I took a critical look at what I have and what can be thrown out. And you know what? It wasn't that hard to throw stuff out. And now I will have a yard and a little dog. I think the dog is baby training.
Posted by Sandra on 08/13/2007 at 01:12pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Well, I'm obviously 10 days behind in my blog reading, but I must say this is now one of my favorite blog posts of all time. The struggle with materialism is a topic that is near and dear to my heart; I battle it daily. So you live in a small house, too? I'm in good company then.
A friend of mine who traveled in India noted that the folks she stayed with here poor (by our standards) but certainly generous, more so than what she had experienced in the States.
Posted by Sophie on 08/17/2007 at 05:17pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
As I read I felt I could have written your post, so much I lived what you did, in a slightly different order. Including the bed bugs (these were bat bugs, but the same deal), and moving from a six-bedroom house to a 70-square meter apartment in Paris. Three dumpsters of junk, endless yard sales & Goodwill deposits, and now 5 storage containers of stuff sitting untouched in the states for 18 months. What do I miss? A few paintings and photo albums.
I decided that you can own your stuff or you can let your stuff own you. It was & is liberating to not have to worry about it all. Talk to "attic debris removal" providers about their horror stories and you'll never want to save — or buy –another item.
The mantra is simple: Want less.
Posted by Polly on 08/30/2007 at 12:16pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
expert is not so helpful as people thought.
Posted by 同传设备出租 on 10/09/2007 at 11:33am | permalink | Reply to this comment
it's funny… you americans have a concept of frugality that is seen as so obscene in the rest of the world… you guys think of frugality as not having 2 cars and a 5 bedroom's house… oh boy, that's not frugality… actually take this as a compliment for the wealthiness of this country, but have in mind that as time goes by, things that are not commodities now will be and such difference in wealthiness won't be justified…
Posted by elcontra on 10/18/2007 at 12:09pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I live in a very small house that is 476 square feet of living space, no bookshelves, one closet, no attic, no basement, no garage, one very small garden shed. For a number of years I paid for a storage unit to store my things. I finally took everything out of storage last year and wondered why I paid someone money to store, well not a whole heck of a lot.
I realize I have issues with my possessions and I have been slowly letting then go. It's hard, even 18 months later I am still cleaning out Rubbermaid bins of things I brought with me when I moved to New England 7 years ago, never missed, never used. I have sold things on Craigs List, books on Half. com, given things to freinds, put items on Freecycle, thrown out items, had a tage sale, etc.
Part of me wonders how I accumulated so many items and part of me is having a hard time getting rid of these items. I can remember a time in my life when I could pack up and move in less than an aftenoon.
I've made it a goal for 2008 to reduce my possessions by half.
Posted by Bouncing Betty on 12/20/2007 at 02:02pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
This was an excellent article. The reference to bedbugs was particularly timely- several apartments in the building I live in have them- fortunately not me… but I did get fleas (horror).
Tip for anyone with bedbugs: (my friend is a bug geek) you can steam them to kill the eggs, and use a spray to kill the adults. Rent a steamer (or use your clothes iron steam feature) to go along the baseboards and cracks and floor boards. Steam your bed frame, rugs and mattress too. Wash sheets in hot water and hot dryer. Steam heavily. Repeat every few weeks until they're gone. Good luck!
Posted by SueB on 12/31/2007 at 01:17pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Oh, and you should caulk the cracks along the baseboards to keep more from coming in to your apartment from adjacent apartments.
Posted by SueB on 12/31/2007 at 01:18pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, I love this story. I work in a part-time role five days a fortnight and on the other five working days have a couple of freelance jobs working from home. I own hardly anything…no car, no apartment (which is a studio anyway) and am generally cheap to run. I always felt weighed down by possessions…now I just have books. What really annoys me is when people say "You're so lucky, working five days a fortnight!". I let them know that they, too, could do the same if they wanted to earn what I earn. It's not luck…it's good management.
Posted by Trish on 01/23/2008 at 04:33am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I just read this post (and the comments) and it's easy to see why this post is one of the popular posts. I'm gradually reducing the weight of my material anchors. In addition to my own mounting material mass I somehow managed to acquire a fair amount of ordinary stuff from my parents estate since I bought the family house. I even had my brothers and sister and their families over for dinner so that they could lay claim to stuff I really didn't need or want. They thanked me for that but I didn't really get rid of much stuff. However I have managed to give away some of those things since then as the opportunity presents itself. It's an ongoing process and my level of consumerism has decreased considerably over the years. It's now more about what I need or else feel I will really use and benefit from. Truly a timeless post that applies to almost everyone.
Posted by Mark W. on 02/01/2008 at 08:48pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I have lived in the third world…..and when you see how much "we" have and they don't, you begin to think deeply on many things
we are creatures of our own culture, our own advertising…we are soaked in it from day one…and it is soooo shallow
Posted by peter on 03/12/2008 at 07:56am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Peter: Much as I can see the point you are making, I have to say that as a person born in the "third world" and having lived there till my early 20s, my observation is that there is nothing "profound" about being poor. The business of survival takes over the human being so much that he/ she also is materialistically focused, only at the other end of the spectrum. And those, who are not poor, ignore their fellow human beings, who are poor and go about their rampage of consumption. I wouldn't say they are very profound either.
There is a saying in Sanskrit: "bubhukshitah kim na karoti paapam" which means "what crime a hungry man may not commit!" and highlights the dangers arising from extreme or relatively considerable poverty too.
Eventually, what satisfies us is a function of how we define our life. Most get caught in their peer group comparisons; many do not. Nothing to suggest the latter is holier or more profound, just materially less attached. After all a shroud has no pockets!
Posted by Shefaly on 03/12/2008 at 09:36am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I have to say, although I do not live in a third world country, I will have to agree with Shefaly. People could say I have too much, but not people in a first world country. I work in the not-for-profit sector, so I live in a shared flat, I have to budget pretty carefully to make sure I have fresh veggies to eat, I can't go out and buy things, like toilet paper on a whim. In the winter, we don't really turn the heat on (and I live in Scotland right now, so I need to!) But I am safe and comfy, I am not starving. So it enables me to jump from job to job, live where I want, and travel sometimes.
Yes, mass consumerism is terrible, but honestly, if you HAVE to make due with nothing, it's a lot harder than if you choose to.
Posted by Danielle on 04/04/2008 at 09:42am | permalink | Reply to this comment
What an experience with the bed bugs! I will never complain about finding the odd cockroach flying in the windows again. Many many people have told me that they live with minimalist possessions. "If you don't use it within a year, then you probably never will. Throw it out!" That seems to be valuable advice.
Posted by Alison on 04/30/2008 at 08:55am | permalink | Reply to this comment
If I've learned anything about materialism it's that it's a mindset, a habit, and a paradigm that can be changed, but it starts internally.
Posted by Russ Page on 05/02/2008 at 04:13pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Try living out of a van. You sleep, you eat, you read, and then you go hiking. It doesn't get simpler or more downsized than that, unless you are homeless on the streets. The van is way better than that.
Posted by Sandy on 05/13/2008 at 05:24pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I wonder what kinds of bed bugs can climb over water? I mean take a four plastic containers, put the four bed legs in those after filling with water.
The only way for the bug to get onto the bed will be to swim accross to the bed leg. Which it wont do.
Posted by rk on 06/14/2008 at 02:22pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I really liked the blog. It just realizes the old saying by buddha that if you don't need then you don't desire and from not desiring can come true happiness.
Posted by clar on 08/25/2008 at 06:43pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I like your advice. I am in the process of trying to do well for myself. For me it is not necessarily a quest to `get more stuff` it is about being able to live without the worries of trying to pay the next bill. I understand that if I make more money I would have other worries but at this point I like the idea of being a bit more comfortable financially.
Posted by Walter on 01/27/2009 at 06:00pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Of course self-storage unites are very comfortable, as for me I move from one place to another very often now and I'd better keep something in storage then to move it every time
Posted by opslagruimte selfstorage on 02/03/2009 at 10:08pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Ouch. Thank goodness I don't have a rodent, insect, or bed bug problem.
If you have trouble try cleaning up the house, remove all food crumbs, and definitely hire a fumigator/exterminator. I find that they can easily wipe out such annoying pests. If bed bugs persist you will have to continually fumigate on a regular basis.
Posted by Suzie Harfnan on 03/20/2009 at 07:47am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I woudl have to argue about your comment about putting stuff in storage. I understand the principle you are making, however, putting stuff in storage is a waste of money. Like you said, you put stuff in storage for years and then at the end you didn't even want it. The best advice is to limit your storage six months and then get rid of all of the stuff you don't want. I have seen so many people pay for storage year after year and only to find out they don't want or miss the stuff.
In regards to missing stuff; I cannot tell you how many time I have lost CDs and tapes and always long to have the back. But later realized I didn't need anyway.
Posted by SiteBetter on 05/07/2009 at 10:09am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Paul Graham's essay Stuff might also be useful for people trying to make the move to a less materialistic plane.
Posted by Jake on 05/25/2009 at 08:28pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
My boyfriend and I went through a similar experience when we found bed bugs in our L.A. apartment. It was incredibly emotionally traumatizing. I spent so many nights afraid to fall asleep and subject myself to feasting by the bugs. We boxed up all of our belongings for two years b/c, as you said, the bugs can live for 18 months without feeding. We moved to a house about a year after we found the bugs and bought new furniture, never bringing the boxes of books, CDs, photographs, Christmas decorations, etc into the house until we passed that two-year mark. While the experience was a nightmare, it definitely taught us the importance of having a minimalist lifestyle. I was surprised when I didn't miss that "stuff" at all. Three years later, some of it still hasn't been unpacked.
Posted by Rachel on 06/03/2009 at 04:52pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
I cannot believe what a nightmare bed bugs are. What did you do with your shoes during the bed bug escape? We're having our own bed bug issue now, and it would be very expensive to buy everyone new winter boots (we're in Vermont-the boots have to be the real deal). Our exterminator seems pretty blase about the whole thing, saying we can get away with checking the boots for bugs then bring them inside. I think he has inhaled too many fumes and is not quite right in the head. Any thoughts on this?
Posted by Jenny on 09/11/2009 at 01:27pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
As I was reading this I couldn't help but analyze the difference in how I grew up and my husband grew up. I grew up in a family that had little where my husband grew up with a family that had all the latest toys until his dad decided it wasn't worth not being with his family and he lost it.
I'll admit because I can now afford to eat out, buy the toys I never had, etc. I find myself typing this in a three bedroom house for two people, a dog, and a cat. Do I need all these things and all this space? No. This is what I am struggling with. While I, being the organizer, would love a scaled down household, my husband (and another part of me) likes the basement full of the big TV, pool table, pinballs so we can entertain friends and family.
Your post helps put some of what I'm wrestling with in perspective and some great links for me to check out.
Thanks.
Posted by Erin on 09/13/2009 at 09:13am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Bedbugs are the devil.
We're on the tail end of them. I only felt slightly sad about losing our furniture when we had to dump it into the dumpster.
People who haven't been through bedbugs think you're being overly dramatic about how traumatic it is. "Losing" the "stuff" gives a sense of relief.
Posted by Xjaeva on 09/21/2009 at 05:26pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Interestingly, in Vermont our farms have been carved up and dotted with mini storage units. The irony is that the farms have been in families for generations and are deeply rooted in our landscapes; the storage sheds are for those in transition and uprooted in their lives.
Yard sales, tag sales, garage sales and moving sales are also part of the Vermont landscape. It is like maple season for some, you really look forward it! The sales offer up something you really need (or not). The VERY best of these are the moving sales, because at moving time one has a tendency to truly clean out life's residue. The thought of moving the unused but usable items is more weighted and the lift one gets from lightening the load is real. The second best sales are at the storage units themselves!
The sales are excellent for young people going out on their own. It is here that just about anything you need can be found, and if you go to the affluent areas, the chances of filling your first apartment with gently used stuff begins the cycle accumulation.
Posted by Anne on 09/29/2009 at 08:36am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm not sure exactly when or why I started downsizing, but I'm now at the point where I can travel the country in a camper van. At this point, pulling a trailer that serves as a "closet" and having a very portable business, I find that even a yard sale doesn't attract me like it once did. At first I thought the lack of an address would hamper my ability to acquire more things via mail order. But even that became a non-issue once my attitude changed.
I'm visiting my thrift store sister now, and she simply has to visit every thrift store within a 25 mile radius of her house every other day or so. I have been going with her, and did find a few handy items to make cooking in the van easier. But I also donated several items from the "closet" that weren't as handy as first anticipated.
It's hard for us hunter/gatherers not to hunt and gather, isn't it?
Posted by Sandy on 09/29/2009 at 10:39am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Just 5 steps, very easy to practice, but very useful with me, they help me very much.
Thank for your post.
Posted by Online Shop on 10/03/2009 at 11:30am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I like how you presented the five step technique. I think that the best way to taming materialism is to be grateful for what you have. Knowing that what you have can all go away very soon makes people respect the value. Personally, I wouldn't give anything away i would give things that I don't want to others who might need it.
Posted by Wilbert on 10/04/2009 at 09:48pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow. What a great article. More than two years old, but full of ageless wisdom. I stumbled on it – and now I'm bookmarking your blog !
Posted by Lionel Ancelet on 12/01/2009 at 07:42am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm all for throwing stuff away and also for inheriting other's stuff (if it fits). At a deeper level though, you can't tell someone living in poverty that materialism sucks. They'll want to have all the stuff first and then make their own decisions. Great to be able to cast off the shackles if you're able to, but everyone wants the goodies first.
Posted by Dr. G on 12/10/2009 at 06:57am | permalink | Reply to this comment
"Test the meaning of money by doing stuff that's scary" — realy love this, face it and deal with it :D
Posted by training media review on 12/12/2009 at 11:35pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hi man, I wish I knew these early. Thank you for sharing!
Posted by FatBurningFurnace on 01/12/2010 at 09:37pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Very good points and they are so useful!
Posted by Mp3 Rockets Pro on 01/12/2010 at 09:40pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I've been reading your blog off and on for quite awhile. And have enjoyed, debated, frowned, and laughed quite a lot reading your thoughts, experiences, advice, and every remaining detail of your life.
I read this posting, now for the second time, and I am in the grips of my own dilemma with materialism, success, money, and identity.
I was never successful. I never had a lot of money. I never considered myself someone who cared too deeply about material goods. My apartments were always sparse, and what many of friends would call, "like a motel room." And my fashion sense was always a little basic, neutral, and minimalistic.
I had a reliable, respectable stable job (with benefits); I did have a running car, even though I wanted to take a baseball bat to it on many occassions; I lived in a great place with a view of downtown Portland, Oregon. I was always reminded that I should be grateful and happy of what I had, but to be honest, I never was happy. I hid that truth from everyone, especially myself.
In November of last year, just before Thanksgiving, I quit my job. I really didn't want to, but after an unfortunate gossiping incident that I sadly overheard, I brazenly confronted the one who talked about me behind my back. She was horrified and instantly apologized. We talked later that day, and as we discussed my future at the job, the truth came out. My sobbing kind of sealed the deal after that. After my somewhat unwanted yet necessary decision, a move that to many was considered an irresponsible, rash, impulsive move on my part, I unfortunately started to lose one thing after another in my life. Things that I worked hard to obtain, but never really wanted.
I now have no job. No car. No money. I'm struggling to find work — this has been this way for over two months. I almost didn't have a phone.
I don't have a home anymore either. I do miss having a roof over my head, but I don't think I will miss the particular roof that hovered over my head like a dark cloud for the last several months. My place felt more like a prison. I lived on a Dead End street in a posh part of SW Portland, up in the hills. I called my home "my room with a view on a Dead End street" I used to joke that it sounded like a title or a lyric from a Bruce Springsteen song.
So I am, right now, January 21, 2010, officially homeless and completely broke.
But to be completely honest — and the most truthful I've been in months, no, years –
I've never been happier.
Posted by Debra W. on 01/22/2010 at 01:01am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This should be compulsory reading for everyone that gets married or buys a house.
Posted by genf20hgh on 01/27/2010 at 10:52pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Amazing and telling post – just thinking about my journey in the last 15 years – starting with nothing from India and now gathered too much of stuff – at least 30-40% needed that what is really required! Thanks for the great post!
Posted by Nambi on 02/11/2010 at 04:52pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
On a related theme, my father used to say, "Kids don't need money, they need activities." That is absolutely true.
Posted by HERRMOTO on 02/24/2010 at 06:38am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Funny how much more desirable your parsed down version of things seems compared to my junk-hauling ways.
Posted by MLM Training on 03/01/2010 at 12:46pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I left everything I had except one suitcase of clothes and moved to Peru to be with the man I loved. I risked everything, and gave up much. I've never been happier.
Posted by Kelly on 03/02/2010 at 11:09pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Years ago I was a Naval Officer and would go away on 6 month deployments. I would return to realize I had forgotten that I owned many of the things I had in my apartment.
I have a friend who ran a national storage company. He told me that people would sign up to pay for storage with auto credit card payments and would maybe stop by once every 5 years and never took anything out. Therefor he said they were paying cash to store items of little economic utility to them.
When my wife and I moved out of our tiny one bedroom apartment in NYC into a two bedroom apartment in Northern Virginia, our possessions doubled in a day, having gone to buy furniture to fill it up. We then bought a town house nearby and our furniture and possessions quadrupled. Now we live in Seattle in a house nearly three times the size of the house we owned in Virginia. And I cannot imagine how big of a truck it would take to move us out of here.
Basically, the more space you have the more you will likely have to buy to furnish it and therefore, people should think long and hard about the space they need. Having grown up in apartments and being comfortable with no possessions, I am sure I could move back into a smaller lifestyle. All I really need is conversation and content (and access to the Internet) and there is an abundance of that.
I would not miss any of the things I own
Posted by Ed on 03/13/2010 at 04:15pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
A very well written post by Penolope. Thanks for sharing!
I only came across your blog today 13/3/2010 courtesy from a friend's recommendation.
I am a Malaysian Chinese who grew up in the Far East.
My boyhood dream is to have a chance to go study abroad and to see the world out there. But I never made it due to financial difficulties which my parents couldn't afford.
I struggled by working hard while financing my college fees. Eventually I graduated.
After 3 years of hard work, I realized that it is the right time for me to leave home. I had a stable career,
I was promoted, I have a very supportive wife(back then girlfriend) that shares the similar dream (to travel)
I could have chosen "comfort" routes like anyone else, own a car, a house and a family. And I realized it's all about commitment. I was only 23 then. Imagine the monthly mortgages, car loans, bills, expenses that you need to service for years to come. I'll be probably stuck there!
But I didn't. I've chosen to leave my comfort zone.
Me and my wife both quit our job and head off to the United Kingdom; London. Telling our self it's only going to be an adventurous 2 years here. To widen up our horizon, to gain more exposure, experience and to achieve one of our dream which is to travel (we're passionate about travel)
London is so unpredictable and today we are still here after a 5 rocky years! We have moved houses/rooms/flats/apartments/studios for 9 times within this past 5 years!
Recently we just got back from our Central/South America trip after having our career break. I quit my job mainly due to job sucks (exactly the same scenario as mentioned in your article "If you're stuck, take an adventure").
I felt so relief and proud that I left my company and had a really great time with my wife in Cuba, Chile, Argentina, and Brazil. It was just awesome, mesmerizing, and it was like one of the best moment in our life!
But now I am back in to the real world again. At this very second as I'm typing this bit of comment, I am actually job hunting, worrying about when is someone going to call me up for an interview and offer me a job (to survive).
Worse still tomorrow going to be a long tiring day as I'll be moving house again! For the 10th time! This round it's going to be just a room in a flat-share for me and my wife. So talking about comfort zone huh?
Sometimes I was dejected knowing that "that's life sigh…". You dictate your own life, you chose your own path and hope it's a correct choice and live with no regrets. Perhaps it might be time for me to go home? Err… to get back some comfort zone?
Only time will tell I guess.
Posted by Nicholas Lam on 03/13/2010 at 07:01pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Life is full of ups and downs. Travelling seems to have been a fabulous "up" for you and your wife. Now for a little bit of "down" as you readjust to a different lifestyle, by choice. Maybe you plan to work to save enough for more years of travel, or you may feel the need to set down roots with your wife. It seems that all choices have a little up and down in them.
But if you are dreading the move, could it be that you have collected too much stuff from all the travels? I have lead a full life and raised children doing the 7-7 grind of a fast paced job on the East coast of the US. Now I'm settled in a tiny mobile home in a rural area. I make $300-500 a month selling the stuff I've accumulated, which is more than enough to live on. I spend my time hiking, camping, and writing, which I love.
It sounds like you might have a lot to write about and share with others. Even if you have to take a daily job, you could still carve out some time to do the things you like. All is not lost, just because you have decided to work again.
Posted by Cherryl on 03/14/2010 at 08:12am | permalink | Reply to this comment
"Kids don't need money, they need activities." That is absolutely true!!
Posted by Liefdesverdriet on 03/17/2010 at 07:02am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
You are now my daily web Purpose-Driven life. Your thoughts are pretty much spot on. Sometimes we're want great things but afraid to take risks. You are right about bringing something in and letting something out. Life is just like that, we have to deal with that.
Jonha
Posted by Jonha @Happiness on 03/18/2010 at 05:01pm | permalink | Reply to this comment