Best alternative to grad school
After yesterday's post, about how stupid grad school is, a lot of people asked, what is an alternative to grad school?
This is a great question.
I see this picture outside my window at least once a month.
I have only a little idea of what’s going on. Should I go to graduate school to figure it out? I could. I could get in. And it’s clear that the next stage in my life will involve some sort of work related to farming. A business. Or writing. Or marketing. But I’m not going to graduate school to learn about agriculture because I have tried going to graduate school to get a jump on my job prospects and it doesn’t work.
When I graduated from college, I was supposedly going to graduate school in history. But I kept writing entrance essays about why I wanted to tell stories about people and history is a good way to do that. And finally, my professor who had stood by me for four years, getting undergraduate research grants for me to study mass movements in colonial America, said, “Forget it. You don't want to be a historian.”
What she really meant was, “I'm not pulling strings to get you into Yale.”
And that was the only place I applied. Because she said she'd get me in.
Every job interview I went on seemed stupid: An incredible combination of not enough money to live on and a job description that was one step up from slave.
So I played professional beach volleyball. I got as high as #17 in the US rankings. But when I went back down 32 I had no competitive urge to get back up. So I knew I needed to do something else.
But I couldn't get a job. I mean, I could. Working for my boyfriend. But that had sucked before. So I knew it would suck again.
I took the GRE and scored in the bottom 20th percentile in quantitative reasoning, which got me into an English master's program.
It took me a year and a half and $15,000 in loans to realize this degree would never get me a job.
I tried to date a few professors, but they were already adept at judging whether or not a grad student was too messed up.
Now I'm going to tell you what I did to make things come together in my career.
First, I stopped doing work that wasn't going to lead to a job. I got a C in Victorian Literature, a D in Film and Literature, an A in modern literature only because I plagiarized from the New York Times Book Review.
Meanwhile, I taught myself HTML before people knew what the Internet was. I presented a paper at the Dartmouth Technology Conference while my fellow English grad students were writing novels.
I left grad school a month before it ended. I just left. Went back to Los Angles.
I was the thinnest I have ever been in my life because I had no money for food. People worried about me and brought me leftovers. I ate them. This was happening when you had to send out resumes on thick, expensive white paper, and I used food money for postage.
I got an interview 50 miles from where I lived. I borrowed a friend's car and got the job.
I was hired to run the whole Internet for a Fortune 500 company, Ingram Micro. My job was to enforce the AP Style guide even though I'd never read it. I was in charge of the web development team even though I didn't know anything about development besides the HTML pages I wrote in grad school.
I gave myself a graduate course in Internet. And a graduate course in copy writing. And a graduate course in management. I read books. I read magazines. I tried stuff out and took way too long and then tried it again.
I worked 15 hour days, and I felt like I was a student. I was learning all the time.
So it's logical to me that this is what everyone should do. Find a foot in a door and then start learning everything you can to open that door wider.
I got fired for having sixteen non-work projects on my work computer. At the time I was horrified. Now I think it was the inevitable result of me taking control over my own education.
If you are thinking of going to graduate school, you need to understand that the process of discovering what value you bring to the adult world is a very hard process to endure. Because you are probably smart, and you like to learn, and most jobs are not about paying you to learn. You have to create that for yourself.
The best thing I did is that I kept my learning curve very high even outside of school. I saw where the opportunities were, and I started learning in that area, trying to figure out where I fit.
So look. Brazen Careerist has a Social Media Bootcamp. Everyone who is thinking of going to grad school should take the course. It's $245, which is nothing—nothing—compared to grad school loans. And the course can show you a way out. The Bootcamp is about possibilities. A course cannot answer your big life questions for you. But it can show you that you have more options than you think you do.
If you are thinking of going to grad school, it’s because you don’t like the choices you see in front of you. Maybe nothing gets you excited. But you can use social media to bridge the type of learning you loved to do in school with the type of learning you can get paid to do. And you can use social media to see how to make jobs for yourself that get you excited.
It might seem like a harder path to sign up for Social Media Bootcamp instead of getting a graduate degree. It seems harder because you won’t have someone’s stamp of approval. But credentials don't get the job. Experience does. So, in fact, Social Media Bootcamp is the path of least resistance. Your safety net is not a degree, but practice learning new ideas on your own and implementing them. So you know you can do that again and again.
Life should be a process of learning and doing, learning and doing. Grad school is all learning. It's an imbalance that is not fair to you, and not right for you. Create your own grad school. Open your own doors. Sign up right now.
[Note: The bootcamp registration has passed. But so many people have asked me about signing up that I am offering a one-hour bootcamp alternative. Email me for details: penelope@penelopetrunk.com]
The transition from school to work is very difficult and there is still no good advice in such matters. Students should be taught early on (way before college in my opinion) that the responsibility to discover their talents and educating themselves ultimately rests on them, not anyone else. The form of education is not important, but the substance is. I am reminded of the scene from the movie Collateral (2004) where the Vincent (Tom Cruise) asks “Where did Miles Davis learn music?” to which his unfortunate victim answers “Julliard.”
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While I totally agree that grad school is not the cure-all it is often thought to be, you seem to forget that there are some fields where advancement beyond the entry-level requires a grade degree. (I’m thinking of public policy and international development in particular). Honestly, I love reading your posts about this topic–I still have not gotten a graduate degree because I can’t bear to spend $30K per year to get a $50K job. But I’m also getting sick of admin work and would like to be able to move up in my career. And no, I have no interest in staring my own small business. Entrepreneurship is very risky and not for everyone.
We were not born to breath, eat, then die. Our purpose here is to enjoy.
Right?
I think a distinction needs to be made on “grad school.”
I’m a recent college graduate who mere hours ago got a rejection email from a ticket taking position at a local theater. So things aren’t going so well for me and the work I’ve be able to get after a year of searching has been free (internships and volunteering – which I’ve taken gratefully) and low (babysitting and house-cleaning – which I’ve also taken). I have long-term relationships with several local businesses who can’t take me on, and a full, relatively impressive resume with notable references (household names), but a year or so out, I’m able to see that my 3.8 B.A. in political science isn’t worth much. Maybe it shouldn’t be worth very much.
Anyway, stuck, I’ve been trying to think of what my next move should be after hundreds of failed applications. I have a list in front of me now: at the top there’s reception work. There’s temping. There’s food service and retail. I can keep cleaning and watching kids.
This is the reality for many college grads out there now; no new jobs were added to the U.S. economy in the last month. And I read your posts about, essentially, Just Doing It, and I think, “Yeah! Just do it! That’s what I’ll do!” I’ve got the number for Merry Maids on my notebook right in front of me. Where does that leave me in ten years? I’ll tell you where: a Merry Maid. I wonder what kind of on-the-job training I get cleaning toilets… (You think I haven’t tried hard enough, don’t you?)
Ok, so you think grad school is a really, really bad idea. When I first started reading these anti-grad school posts, I was still in undergrad and I whole-heartily agreed (I don’t know what I based this agreement on; I guess I had the idea that grad student = loser, forever student). Now these arguments hit me as sort of ill-informed, and maybe all that is needed to fix that up is a distinction. From what I understand, there are different programs in grad school, it’s not just one program called “waste of money and time.” There’re the liberal arts programs, which are mostly unfunded and do not guarantee positions upon graduation – not by a long shot. Here we’re talking history, arts, communication, creative writing, English. And there are the scientific, technical, and healthcare-related programs, some of which are funded and include position-focused training and post-grad, structured employment.
I appreciate your insight into American work. This comment is just to give you a slice of reality and say that not all post-graduate education and training is a terrible, terrible idea. I’m looking at healthcare: PA, RN, NP, MD, Cl. Psych PhD. I wish you wouldn’t equate these types with an English master’s and declare them all ridiculous.
Don’t know if you’re still reading, but I’m an Ivy-educated receptionist with a net income of $1,200 monthly (my Boston rent is $850 in a shared apartment). I work through a temp agency and do not have health insurance. I also had internships, fellowships, research experience, you name it–and my degree is in one of the more quantitative social sciences, not liberal arts.
No suggestions for how to proceed from here, just wanted to affirm that there are many of us in the same position.
A classic example of a scam is art school – students in accredited programs learning NOTHING in fact faculty is often anti-technique..
At an accredited art school you have to pay 20,30,40K a year.. or… you can go to non accredited ateliers, like all great masters did prior to degree scams (can you name me a great 19th century artist with a college degree?? even in the 20th century Norman Rockwell, Wyeth, and most realists didn’t have MAs or even BAs.
Ateliers like Grand Central Academy, The Art Student’s League NY – you can go full time for something like 300-500 a month.. you can earn that working at starbucks – and you actually learn how to paint from people who know how to paint (or draw or sculpt)
just look at the student work of Grand Central for example:http://grandcentralacademy.blogspot.com/2011/03/student-work-march-2011.htmlcompare that to some place like SVA…
its criminal and stupid to saddle a 24 year old aspiring artist with 120K in debt just so they can say that have a degree. Unfortunately the only drawback is to keep the scam going most acc. art schools require a degree to teach
What she really meant was, "I'm not pulling strings to get you into Yale."And that was the only place I applied. Because she said she'd get me in.
This is complete BS. If this was your approach to getting into graduate school in history, this only proves you knew nothing about the discipline, and weren’t talented, either. Nobody gets into graduate school in the humanities at an Ivy League school because somebody “got them in”. As someone who applied to graduate school (in a different discipline in the humanities) only at Harvard and Princeton, and was accepted at both (I went to the former and earned a doctorate), I can say without any equivocation that nobody became a grad student without deserving to be there. That means they wrote the GRE, had excellent undergraduate grades, wrote a letter of intent that showed they had some reasonable reason to go to graduate school in the ares and weren’t a flake, and had three letters of recommendation from faculty members at their undergraduate institution who could attest to their suitability (which was the sole form of input from outsiders).
It was most assuredly not a matter of somebody with “connections” getting you in when you weren’t qualified. Apart from anything else, it takes a very qualified candidate to apply to only a single one of the best programs in the US, and this post clearly shows that the author was not a very qualified candidate. And for the readers here who may not know much about the admissions process in such circumstances, does it make any sense for an Ivy League school to admit an unqualified student when such a students cost the institution large sums of money (and you don’t get into Yale without being funded by them)?
"Forget it. You don't want to be a historian.” What she really meant was, "I'm not pulling strings to get you into Yale."
Apparently, it never occurred to the author to consider that what this means was “Forget it. You’re not cut out for it.”
Here is a great social media case story – look at it, and you will understand what you can do with social media!
‘Aussie Desert Dogs’ is a dog control programme which rescues stray camp puppies from a remote village in the Northern Territory in Australia. The dog population up there has plague proportions in many aboriginal communities due to their numbers, scarcity of food, no vets e.t.c. The dog control programme puts down hopeless dogs, rescues & treats good puppies and exports them to Sydney and other major cities.
You might think that semi-feral puppies from subsistence level desert villages would be a hard sell in the cities, but not so:
Whenever a new batch of orphan puppies arrives hundreds of photos and videos are posted on the organisation’s facebook page with comments about the puppies personalities and expected size/look/guessed breed. About 600 people have ‘liked’ the page, and the foster carer interacts with them via comments, answer questions on the wall and on pictures and frequently update the page with new photos and every-day stories about the puppies.
Whether one likes the communication style, person and topic or not, it is a great example of effective social media marketing. The interaction allows the foster carer to get a better ‘feel’ of people who want to adopt a particular dog before she meets them, so she can better advise them.
There are also vivid descriptions on the dogs’ Pet Rescue profiles and the Desert Dog website and various interviews with Gloria (the woman behind the dog programme – great story) to find on the Internet. I think many more people would buy rescue dogs if more rescue organisations learned to use social media with such enthusiasm & skill.
Here are the links:
Aussie Desert Dogs Facebook site:
https://facebook.com/pages/Aussie-Desert-Dogs/154807711230046
Website:
http://desertdogs.org.au
Pet Rescue profiles – example:
http://petrescue.com.au/view/122176
Conclusion:
Don’t do a social media course – look at organisations who do social media really well, and learn from their ideas!
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While I appreciate your point of view, I honestly CANNOT move forward in my field without a graduate degree. That’s just me.
In general, I think it’s all about figuring out what you want, finding the best way to get there, and preparing to make the sacrifices that will be needed along the way. That may or may not include grad school. Do your research, find people who have your dream job and find out how they got there.
-If you don’t know what you want, grad school isn’t the solution.
-A degree is not an automatic key to grown up world. Everyone has to “pay their dues” regardless of their education. Unless you’re born into it, you will most likely start at the bottom and work your way up.
-Walking across that stage isn’t going to make you a better person. However, the sweat, the sacrifices, the lessons, the failures, and the triumphs will.
While I appreciate your point of view, I honestly CANNOT move forward in my field without a graduate degree. That’s just me.
In general, I think it’s all about figuring out what you want, finding the best way to get there, and preparing to make the sacrifices that will be needed along the way. That may or may not include grad school. Do your research, find people who have your dream job and find out how they got there.
-If you don’t know what you want, grad school isn’t the solution.
-A degree is not an automatic key to grown up world. Everyone has to “pay their dues” regardless of their education. Unless you’re born into it, you will most likely start at the bottom and work your way up.
-Walking across that stage isn’t going to make you a better person. However, the sweat, the sacrifices, the lessons, the failures, and the triumphs will.
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I have to admit, nothing can compare to years of experience and then entering into on-going study that focuses on that area of your career that you know really drives you.
Where I’m from, going to grad school isn’t necessary unless you’re studying to become a lawyer or something. Grad school has always been viewed as something only the rich can afford.
I have many comments about our educational system/process. To keep this short, I won’t go into them. The fact of the matter is, it does not matter what your capabilities are if you are looking to get a job working for someone. You must have the credentials and experience to get past the HR “filters”. There is no guarantee. Our workforce is shrinking and corporate America does not need as many workers due to outsourcing, productivity improvement, lower consumption (not the disease), concentration of money, and movement of corporate activity offshore.
I would like to recommend a book which I purchased years ago, that has now been reissued in a free edition. It is “The Independent Scholar’s Handbook”. It is worth taking a look at.
http://www.sfu.ca/independentscholars/isbook.htm
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I understand the arguments against grad school. However, I have not seen many articles about graduate degrees in the STEM fields (Science, Technology, Engineering and Math). A lot of advanced jobs in those fields require a masters or Ph.D.