My company just launched, all-new, at BrazenCareerist.com. For those of you who have been asking for the past year: "What's your business model?" You can read about it on TechCrunch. If you want the full pitch, you can read the press release, (and you should know that all last week, when I wasn't blogging, I was writing six thousand versions of our press release.)
Here's some advice for everyone who is starting a company: Write your big press release first, before you do anything at all. And then work backwards. Map out the milestones you need to make the press release come true, and that tells you how to run the first stage of your startup.
To be clear: we did not do that. I mean, if we did, our press release would have had to say, “Ryan Paugh announces that he has just made it through two years of Ryan Healy and Penelope Trunk fighting tooth and nail over totally irrelevant details of building a social network that is a career management tool for the next generation workforce.”
Then Ryan Healy and I would rewrite that press release ten times because Tech Crunch announced that they are sick of people using the term "next generation" and Ryan doesn't want to use it but I think it's fine because it's in a different context. (LinkedIn is for gen x. Brazen Careerist is the job site for the next generation, demographically speaking. )
Then there would be a quote from Ryan Healy that says, "If I had known that we were going to expand from being a blog network to a full-blown social network then I would have never put up with the insane amount of rewriting that Penelope made me do to have a guest post on her blog."
I tried to write a normal launch blog post where I take a victory lap, but I think you know that I'm not the type. I do feel really, really proud of what we've done. Brazen Careerist is a site that lets you build your network the way it's supposed to happen: through genuine conversation. Most of you have watched me go through total hell to get this company off the ground. A lot of you wonder why I do it. The reason is that I truly believe that becoming an active participant in a professional community really will change your life.
I was really, really lonely. I was a new mom, and I had a failing marriage, and I moved to a city where I knew no one. I started blogging, and it was a lifeline to me. Not only did it provide fun, stimulating conversation, but it reminded me that I'm great at business, and I should be doing a business. Talking within the context of a community helped me find myself again, and the process of posting ideas helped me announce to the world what I am really good at, and sometimes—actually, most of the time—those things go hand in hand. (So it's no coincidence that the new launch of Brazen Careerist provides tools so that anyone can have this experience of defining yourself by posting your ideas.)
I convinced Ryan and Ryan to move to Madison to do a company with me. They knew from the beginning that the main goal for me with a startup was to have fun. And when they arrived in Madison, the thing that was most jarring to them was how weird and isolated I was. It's not how I seem on my blog. I know that. I mean, most people think I am weird on my blog but not that weird in person. The thing is that I'm actually more weird in person. So a lot of what our startup has been is all of us learning to adapt to each other (the company is basically a Penn State fraternity and me. Not kidding.)
I didn't realize I had Asperger syndrome until Ryan and Ryan kept pointing out the weirdness I have. I realized they are the same things my son goes to therapy for. People ask me a lot to write about Asperger syndrome. I am hesitant because I am still working out how to deal with it. One thing I know, though, is that friends are very very hard. People like me because I'm smart and interesting, but I am hard to be friends with. I don't quite understand the process. A lot of times people will say, "You think your blog readers are your friends, but they're not."
This is probably true, but I don't get it. The blog has gotten me through one of the toughest times in my life. Today I have a great company, solid funding, a great household arrangement, and a good-for-me boyfriend. I didn't have this a year ago. I had a mess on my hands. And I was so so grateful to have a community on the blog to talk to. The community talks about work when I want to talk about work, and the community talks about personal stuff when that's what I'm thinking about.
So. Okay. I am scared to do something now. I am telling you thank you because this community feels like my friend, even though I know it is evidence of mental oddness that I think this. I know I am so lucky to have a community that is so smart and insightful that the comments section is exciting to read. I know that's rare on the Internet. So every day I feel lucky, and what I'm scared to do is ask you for more. But I'm doing that now.
I'm doing it because I think you know that the last eight years of my career has been dedicated to building the Brazen Careerist brand and the company around it. And now with this launch, we need a lot of people to try out the idea that you can control your career by building strong networks through conversation and talking about your ideas.
If everyone who subscribed to my blog signed up at brazencareerist.com, the launch would be deemed a huge success. So, I'm asking you to do that now. Go sign up. And then let me know what you think. And thank you so much for sticking with me through hard times so that on this really exciting day you are here to share it with me.









Congratulations!
I'd like to ask you a question, in case you get a chance to answer it in between hecticness.
A lot of successful female bosses I've worked with were very angry people and called mean. Yelling at people for no real reason for instance. You seem kind of angry too – yelling at the shoe guy who said you don't want to look like a prude, the whole David Dellison thing. But I don't mean that as an insult, it's standing up for yourself. It's the yelling women who make life easier for the quiet ones.
So do you think successful women are generally more "angry" than most women?
Oh, and did I say congratulations? I'm sure it'll be a raging success!
Posted by Ashie on 08/25/2009 at 06:30am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm 51 years old but fall into that weird preview generation you mentioned once. Should I still sign up? Or should I stay out of the way? I don't want to make the 20-somethings uncomfortable. (I make enough people uncomfortable as it is.)
Posted by Theresa Quintanilla on 08/25/2009 at 06:52am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Go ahead and sign up!
The site is for people who understand that the rules of managing one's own career have changed, and that we are each responsible for our own career path. All the ideas we talk about on this blog all the time. Anyone who can keep up with this blog is someone who would fit on Brazen Careerist.
One of the most popular posts on my blog is that your age is not about when you were born. It's about how you communicate. And this is true for community at Brazen Careerist, as well.
(link to that post: http://tinyurl.com/24exca )
Everyone who enjoys reading my blog should go sign up!
-Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on 08/25/2009 at 07:02am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Glad to hear I can still sign up even if I can't quite remember my 20-something years!
Posted by Jan Hogle on 2009-08-26 10:56:53 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
More oddness-weirdness: We think you're our friend. Good luck, Penelope!
Posted by jenx67 on 08/25/2009 at 07:00am | permalink | Reply to this comment
No, it's a sign of mental weirdness to think you "almost died" when the twin towers fell on you when they didn't, that you're a "serial entrepreneur" who founded three companies before this one (later changed to two) when she didn't, and when you believe you're a business success when all you've ever done that can be factually-documented is play professional beach volleyball and write online porn.
Posted by John on 08/25/2009 at 05:07pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
It's a sign of mental weirdness to obsessively read a blogger you don't respect solely for the purpose of leaving disparaging comments. In the real world, that's called stalking and harassment.
As for the Asperger's syndrome, I think everyone is on a continuum and most people are more self-obsessed than is truly desirable.
Posted by Caitlin on 2009-08-25 18:03:22 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
How is Brazen Careerist different from Mediabistro?
Posted by Belinda Gomez on 2009-09-03 14:46:34 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
I have to agree with JenX above– I don't think its a sign of mental weirdness to think your readers are your friends… I tend to think that way about mine as well.
Posted by Ashe Mischief on 08/25/2009 at 07:20am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I don't think it's weird at all that you consider this community your friend. That's exactly how I feel about the people who leave comments on my blog as well. How could people who read your most intimate thoughts not become friends?
Posted by Erin on 08/25/2009 at 07:25am | permalink | Reply to this comment
It depends on your definition of "friend".
Merriam-Webster online:
1 a : one attached to another by affection or esteem b : acquaintance
2 a : one that is not hostile b : one that is of the same nation, party, or group
3 : one that favors or promotes something (as a charity)
4 : a favored companion
Many readers are 2a, I don't know how many are 4, or even 1a. Other online definitions go even further, such as Princeton's Wordnet:
# S: (n) friend (a person you know well and regard with affection and trust) "he was my best friend at the university"
# S: (n) ally, friend (an associate who provides cooperation or assistance) "he's a good ally in fight"
# S: (n) acquaintance, friend (a person with whom you are acquainted) "I have trouble remembering the names of all my acquaintances"; "we are friends of the family"
# S: (n) supporter, protagonist, champion, admirer, booster, friend (a person who backs a politician or a team etc.) "all their supporters came out for the game"; "they are friends of the library"
I would guess many readers are supporters, but most are not known well & regarded with affection and trust.
Degrees of meaning; we could use some more words for "friend"!
Posted by Jo on 08/26/2009 at 11:33am | permalink | Reply to this comment
P,
I enjoyed the spirit of your post today.
Hooray for you and all the best!
Mike (Dread Pirate)
http://www.talklikeapirateday.com/
(avast she be coming up soon so practice yer talk – and you'd make a fine wench missy)
Posted by Dread Pirate on 08/25/2009 at 07:43am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Have you actually been diagnosed with Aspberger's syndrome or is this a self-diagnosis? If you are self diagnosing, I would highly encourage you to go in and be tested yourself to verify this.
Posted by Jennifer on 08/25/2009 at 08:12am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope's been diagnosed with whatever makes her life more dramatic this post: Aspberger's, serial entrepreneurial bug, a near-death in the twin towers, sexual abuse, you name it. Alien abduction and impregnation is probably next.
Posted by John on 08/25/2009 at 05:10pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
John you are a dick.
Posted by Mark on 2009-08-27 04:23:39 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
JOhn–you're a genius. I like to read PT because she's entertaining, but I don't believe a word of any of it, including "the", "a" and "and".
The self-created are fun to watch.
Posted by Belinda Gomez on 2009-09-03 14:40:39 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
מזל טוב
Congratulations Penelope. I'll have to check it out.
Posted by Jay Godse on 08/25/2009 at 08:16am | permalink | Reply to this comment
congratulations, penelope! i love following people who are willing to take some risks to fulfill their dreams.
tony
Posted by tony morgan on 08/25/2009 at 08:24am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow, it looks a lot like Facebook. I guess that's not necessarily a bad thing, it just took me by surprise.
Posted by Pbing on 08/25/2009 at 08:31am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations on your new unveiling!
Like Theresa, I'm out of your target audience's age group – this was a big 5-0 for me this year. But, career-wise, I'm a late bloomer and I feel more part of the Gen Y than my own. My age-peers are planning their retirements. I'm planning my business start-up!
So, yes, I signed up.
Posted by I'm In on 08/25/2009 at 08:32am | permalink | Reply to this comment
For those interested, I just created a group called "Blazing Boomers."
Check it out…Jim
Posted by Jim on 08/27/2009 at 05:51pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations on the launch. I hope you are successful.
I don't know if I will sign up or not. I'm already on Facebook, LinkedIn, and a number of other sites … it gets pretty overwhelming to keep up with half a dozen social networking sites plus keeping my own blog up-to-date, and since I'm not in your target group (I just turned 40, so I'm guessing I'm on the outermost fringe), I don't know that I would fit in.
I DO want to encourage you to post about your Asperger's Syndrome. I know several people who have it, including a sweet young kid in my karate class, and would love an "insider's view."
And I do echo the previous commenter who asked if you have been officially diagnosed. Because I have some indicators of both Asperger's and OCD, but official diagnosis was negative for both. Which I guess means that I am just weird, without a good excuse for it. :-)
Posted by editormum on 08/25/2009 at 08:52am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
Congrats! I've been one of your faithful virtual friends for a few years now – and proud of it! I'm so excited for you and the Ryans. The new site is beautiful. Although I expressed (last night) some doubt I'd fit in with your new vision, (this morning) I'm finding the new layout much easier to navigate – more inviting. When I leave, I find myself wanting to log back in again!
And thank you for your thoughtful comment on my blog; I appreciate you stopping by FlackRabbit.
Posted by Margie Newman on 08/25/2009 at 08:56am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations P! I'm very happy and excited for you.
Posted by J on 08/25/2009 at 09:01am | permalink | Reply to this comment
While we may not be friends in the traditional sense of the word the nice thing about a blog is that we are still a community, and writing is very therapeutic. The thing is if you have a lot of readers than it is because you provide good content with your writing. While yeah, getting out and doing stuff with people in the real world is important, I would not let those comments get to you.
Posted by JS Dixon on 08/25/2009 at 09:06am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations! When I am at home and not wage slaving, I will definitely sign up! To me, friends are people you miss when they aren't around. I'd miss you if you weren't here. *hugs*
Posted by rainie on 08/25/2009 at 09:18am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Just singed up. :)
Congratulations P. Looks like the hard work has paid off. I'm excited to see what you and the Ryans have up your sleeve.
It's very nice to hear you this happy. May it always be so.
Mike
Posted by Mike on 08/25/2009 at 09:41am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Odd-weirdness of the globe untie! Just kidding – unite!
I'm am sooo enjoying your offerings and work. (Still awed by the honesty of your post about your family trauma. You'll inspire others to be kind to themselves.)
Thank you for doing such an amazing job of being real and building a community of appreciative odd-weird friends – the best kind!
I'll go sign up – even though my body is old, my mind is young.
Posted by Barbara A. Zelnick on 08/25/2009 at 09:44am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think it's very cool of you to admit that you have Asperger syndrome. I actually think it's helped your creativity. Every time I come to this blog I am always amazed by the unique ways you present ideas. You take life in from a new angle and throw light on these concepts that have taught me a lot about writing and communication.
That's what working happy is all about to me. Letting our true selves out and not being afraid of what other people think.
I signed up for the Brazen Careerist network. Good luck and I'll be here and on the Brazen Careerist network.
Posted by Karl Staib - Work Happy Now on 08/25/2009 at 09:45am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hello…
I relay your blog posts to my friends as if I'm sharing a success, or challenge of any of my friends. If the 'career rules' are changing, why not the 'friendship rules' as well?
Best of luck and congratulations. All the best!
N
Posted by Nat on 08/25/2009 at 09:51am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congrats Penelope! It will be great to see you bring your Charisma and knowledge of Gen Y hiring to your new technology company.
Congats!
Posted by Bryan Starbuck on 08/25/2009 at 10:01am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'll be your friend if you're ever in Vegas.
Posted by Jacqueline on 08/25/2009 at 10:12am | permalink | Reply to this comment
WOW. My brother just visited me in Denver last weekend, he traveled from Madison via train with his gf….that was a mess of issues in itself…but that is it!!!! He has Asperger syndrome!!! I don't mean to take away from your fantastic launch, I think it will be a huge success…..but from the age of 8 I didn't understand why running his little sister over with a massive wood toboggan while she screamed in pain never quite bothered him, I mean he tried to show it bothered him but I knew he was more concerned with the lines of his next run…..ANYWAY, THANK YOU!!!!!!! 20 years later it is starting to make some sense, to give it a name…..well its HUGE for me. I wonder how he will take my e-mail today……we shall see!
Becca
Posted by Becca on 08/25/2009 at 10:13am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Ha ha ha, so Ryan Paugh is the new Tom?
Posted by Jacqueline on 08/25/2009 at 10:14am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congrats on your new launch! I'm planning to sign up today or tomorrow.
I, too, am curious to hear more about Asperger's connection.
Posted by Colin on 08/25/2009 at 10:22am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations!!!
Posted by Tammy on 08/25/2009 at 10:22am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hi Penelope!
Whenever I read this site… I feel like I am your friend! I say this because (though no formal diagnosis) I too have been aligned with Asperger's Syndrome, and I struggle to make friends too. I consider my "online community" to be my friends too. I read blogs and think I am "building relationships", but I'm not… especially since I rarely make comments, and my own blog is often dormant. It seems that a common parallel with AS symptoms is to have a difficult time seperating reality from the imagined. I might be speaking out of turn here, but it's true for me at least. I can identify what is "real" and down to earth, and I whole-heartly admire that quality… but on the inside I live in a fantastical land. Made up of conversations that could have happened (but didn't) and the pretense that I am famous.. and my name is Ruby Leigh.
Posted by Ruby Leigh on 08/25/2009 at 10:24am | permalink | Reply to this comment
So where do we submit bug reports? I'm just PM'ing poor Ryan Paugh for lack of a better, more apparent option.
Posted by Jacqueline on 08/25/2009 at 10:41am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I like that you're already reporting bugs. Thanks. Ryan is happy to field emails from anyone. But here's the link for the Feedback Group. Please report bugs there.
http://www.brazencareerist.com/group/brazen-community-feedback
Thanks!
Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on 08/25/2009 at 11:07am | permalink | Reply to this comment
OK, I started a forum post for bug reports, if others want to add theirs to it:
http://www.brazencareerist.com/group/brazen-community-feedback/forum/bugs-reports
Posted by Jacqueline on 2009-08-25 11:19:43 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
This is a pretty dope site~ I've always been reluctant to use LinkedIn because of its design, color-scheme, and layout. BC looks a lot like fb, which only means that I'm more comfortable using it than other career-based social networking alternatives.
The "Featured Posts" is an excellent way of giving me something to do with i visit BC. On LinkedIn, I am updated with mundane connections from my other friends… which is wonderful & everything, but doesn't really give me direction or inspiration.
Nice job. Keep up the good work yo~
:D
Posted by eugene on 08/25/2009 at 11:17am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Some feedback which sounds harsh but isn't meant to be:
I went to the site, but all there is is a sign up form. Maybe that's because there isn't any content, but it's not very compelling. I wanted to browse the site and see some enticing stuff that convinces me joining is worthwhile. I want to see profiles, conversations, etc., stuff that gives me a preview of what I'm getting myself into. An "About" page or ad copy isn't going to do it, that doesn't really have much credibility.
If this were my company, I would have harnessed the community of bloggers from the old site to play on there for a while so there was something for people to look at on launch.
Posted by Amy L on 08/25/2009 at 11:21am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I totally want to try it. Of course, I'm going to sign up! And I fit the target market anyway, since I'm on the cusp of Gen X and Gen Y. I'll report back…
Posted by Caitlin on 08/25/2009 at 11:46am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Signed up, Penelope. Intriguing – looks a little too much like FB for my taste – but needs more stuff to get me excited about making it a daily destination. Maybe because I'm a little older than your target (ok, a lot older) but I need to be convinced that this is where I want to spend my time. So go ahead. Dazzle me.
Posted by prklypr on 08/25/2009 at 12:22pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
oh, and congrats! This was a long time coming and you sweated thru a lot of stuff to get here!
Posted by prklypr on 08/25/2009 at 12:23pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm sold, joined! Like some others, I am experiencing some bugs. Hopefully these will be fixed in due time.
I'm enjoying the website so far, congratulations on your success!
Posted by Van on 08/25/2009 at 12:50pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm glad to see you're getting your mojo back Penelope. Congrats on your launch. I was pleased with your reply to the 51 year old dude, especially since I'm a tad older than he. I'm about to wrap up an almost 30 year career in a job I now despise and trying to set myself up for a new career in something different – hence my leap into the use of social technologies. Have you thought (maybe it's too late) to address the Baby Boomers who are planning second careers? I don't mean mixing this in with your new site but maybe as another service. Just a thought.
And last, re your comment about friends in the blogosphere, you no doubt know that you have a supportive community. But there are also the voyeurs who like to peek in to observe when people are having difficulties and expose their feelings publicly.
Posted by Jim on 08/25/2009 at 01:00pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Jim,
You should join BC and start a group for second careerists. I'll join, since that's definately me.
Posted by I'm In on 08/25/2009 at 02:04pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congrats! Am a Gen-Xer but just signed up.
Posted by Jane on 08/25/2009 at 01:10pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congrats! I'm excited to try out the site. Thanks for always being completely honest on your blog; it's a rare but refreshing concept to witness online.
Posted by Matt Wrench on 08/25/2009 at 01:11pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations from another gen-Xer. Signed up and Ryan Paugh is already a fan… Does this mean I'm cool with the gen-Y crowd too?!
Posted by Clare on 08/25/2009 at 01:26pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congrats Penelope!
I've followed your challenges in building Brazen Careerist with special interest as I've been starting a company of my own, http://www.RememberItNow.com. Your writing has made me smile late at night as I searched for bugs and wrote endless versions of my "pitch".
While you've targeted the underserved Generation Y market early in their lives, RememberItNow! is targeted to boomers and their parents further down the road. Instead of networking for a job this group thinks about taking pills on time, providing long-distance caregiving, and organizing their healthcare. (As a baby boomer, I have to say, the challenges of Generation Y sound like more fun.)
I've found creating a startup to be a very lonely process. Thanks for the company.
May Brazen Careerist be a blazing success, and your mornings be filled with private Pilates instruction.
Posted by Pamela on 08/25/2009 at 01:34pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I just joined…I'm glad it's more Facebooky now. I often feel like a biological Gen Y with the cynical outlook of a Gen Xer, so the bubbly preachiness of the old blog-focused site didn't much appeal to me. I feel like I could better find my way in this format. Up yours, Ryan!
Re: Asbergers…I find most people I meet exhibit autistic-like symptoms at some point or another. If they don't, it's almost like I'm not interested. My favorite people are all a little "autistic". I feel like sometimes autistic tendencies are just a way of acknowledging how weird and nonsensical this existence can be.
Posted by Dree on 08/25/2009 at 01:44pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm not sure I quite get it.
So I sign-up, create a profile, share my ideas by blogging, etc. But how do employers find me to offer me a job if the site is members only?
Posted by Confused User on 08/25/2009 at 02:06pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations! I'm really glad to read that you're doing so well.
I also have Asperger's syndrome and (consequently) no friends. Reading and writing are my primary means of communication. So please know the imaginary-friend syndrome goes both ways (at least with some of your readers).
Posted by mtimothy on 08/25/2009 at 02:43pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congraulations Penelope!
Posted by Amy on 08/25/2009 at 03:10pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I signed up a few weeks ago and love it! Thanks so much!
Posted by Jessica Dietz on 08/25/2009 at 04:06pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Good luck with Brazen careerist!
Posted by Release Equity on 08/25/2009 at 04:28pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Great to see you are doing so well, well done girl!
Posted by Karen@ Mobile Phones on 08/25/2009 at 04:29pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Your comment about writing the press release first is a best practice that Amazon.com follows with great success. It's documented in this blog post:
http://www.shmula.com/324/start-with-the-customer-and-work-backwards
Posted by KC on 08/25/2009 at 05:38pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I've signed up and found a group- the site is really easy to navigate and I already have a fan – (thanks Ryan). Congrats!
Posted by Heather on 08/25/2009 at 05:39pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
If I can offer one piece of advice – I would be reluctant to create a job network based on 'Generation Y', because that could be interpreted by a disgruntled plaintiff to mean you are discriminating based on age, which is of course illegal under US federal law.
Your press release implies in several places that the site is for people of a particular age, e.g. "Gen-Y'ers finally have a place where they can gather, share ideas, form meaningful relationships based on shared interests and, most of all, be themselves". It is illegal to "classify or refer for employment any individual on the basis of such individual’s age", which is what your press release states.
Posted by poboy on 08/25/2009 at 07:37pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
That's ridiculous. There are plenty of age-based clubs, including for Baby Boomers and seniors.
In any case, any such lawsuit would fall flat on its face given that there is no actual barrier to people of any age signing up. In the sign-up process it asks for a date of birth and the drop-down menu options stretch back to the beginning of last century.
Posted by Caitlin on 08/25/2009 at 08:02pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations!
Posted by Norah on 08/25/2009 at 08:22pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
signing up now. congrats penelope, ryan and ryan :)
Posted by Kelly on 08/25/2009 at 08:23pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I had exactly the same thought. It's not an age based social club – it's clearly oriented towards employment, a federally regulated activity. The law is very clear on prohibiting 'classification' of potential employees by age.
You could claim it is not an employment agency, but if you are allowing employers to browse resumes then that would be a difficult case to make.
A better approach would have been to create a new moniker e.g. Generation Internet rather than one which is age related.
Posted by Tom on 08/25/2009 at 08:27pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I totally consider you my friend–I wish I had an IRL friend as interesting as you!
Congrats on the launch!
Posted by Maggie on 08/25/2009 at 08:49pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I forgot to mention that if you already haven't you need to read Look Me In The Eye by John Elder Robison (Augusten Burroughs' brother). He has Aspergers and the book is incredible.
Posted by Maggie on 08/25/2009 at 08:50pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I signed up because I find you engaging and highly entertaining, even when I disagree with you. Signing up did make me feel a bit old though–and I'm not used to that!
If it makes you feel better, I'll repeat some random fact I see on your blog with a "Penelope says…" and then find myself having to explain you aren't a IRL friend.
Posted by Jennifer on 08/25/2009 at 09:33pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Outstanding. I do not get to read your work as often as I desire, but when I do I find the writing speaks from someone's experience and soul. Very few people ever get to understand what that is about, they write to discuss something they think people will want to read. But you write what you have, what you know, and what has happened in your life. Just so happens, it happens to all of us and we all want to read it.
Congrats on your start up and good luck!
Posted by Jason Monastra on 08/25/2009 at 09:34pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
I always look forward to your blog posts and wish I could write as well as you. I love your honesty and often wondered if that's what drew me to you. Now that you've revealed that you have Asperger's, I'm just blown away. My husband also has Asperger's….and this has made me realize that the appeal might be bigger than your honesty; perhaps there's an "invisible" Asperger's trait. I seem to be drawn to people who have it. Very interesting.
Separately, I wonder why your site is geared for Gen Y. I'm a boomer and feel foolish for wanting to connect. Is there some reason the generational split seems so strict?
Posted by Barbara on 08/25/2009 at 11:21pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
Thank YOU for adding value to our lives every week. You are a very special person and I personally want to thank you for always being kind to me.
I signed up for the network and will have my team spread the word in our online communities. Next week we'll do a few Video Blogs giving it some love.
Feedback:
It seems to be running slow. I'm on a mac air and have a good signal so I assume it's on your end.
I love, repeat love how you included the "chatter" 140 character feature within the groups. I think this twitter like feature will make the groups on this network much more interactive than let's say the groups within facebook.
I haven't interacted yet on the site (page is still loading in another window) but what seems to be missing is a home page that aggregates activity of your friends, groups etc. Perhaps I just haven't discovered that yet.
We do lots of recruiting I'm anxious to dive in to this community and discover emerging talent. Thanks for providing a platform for us to do this!
Amanda Hite
Founder, CEO Talent Revolution Inc
Posted by Amanda Hite on 08/26/2009 at 07:55am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congrats Penelope! I've enjoyed reading your blog along the journey. I've signed up to the site and wish you wild success!
Posted by Beth C on 08/26/2009 at 08:07am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
I am SO EXCITED for you and The Ryan's! I just checked out and signed up to the Brazen Careerist site. Nice job you guys! I will be SURE to send my 'next generation' clients there (or anyone looking to build up a new social profile).
Great job!
Erin Kennedy
Professional Resume Services
Posted by Professional Resume Writer on 08/26/2009 at 08:36am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope and BC gang, I think the new model is brilliant! Congratulations on years of bright thinking and hard work finally paying off. As I travel around the country talking to high-level HR and Talent Acquisition executives, I'm hearing them talk about the "2-5 yr experienced hire" as their next big priority as the employment marketplace shifts. I think you are wonderfully well positioned to serve them by offering access to this population of young professionals by exposing them to ideas as well as experiences. Let me know how I can help. Cheerios, Kathleen
Posted by Kathleen on 08/26/2009 at 08:37am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Cool site, but while I subscribed to your blog, it has nothing to do with me.
Unless there's a portion on their for networking academia/medical professionals. Then that might be useful. But I imagine that is not the focus of the site.
Posted by JC on 08/26/2009 at 08:58am | permalink | Reply to this comment
From a marketing standpoint, I think it's brilliant that people can't surf the site without signing up for it. You get the lead, they get to see what the site does — everyone wins.
I also love how http://www.penelopetrunk.com now mimics the look and feel of Brazen Careerist. What a great way to link your pre-existing online profile to your new venture.
I signed up for Brazen Careerist because I'm curious to see if it will work for me, a career-changing Gen Xer who has definite opinions on work/life balance, communication methods, blogging, the media, and trying to find a career that works for me. I'm hoping that even though I'm not "the next generation" (good call on that, Healy!), this might be a great way for me to find the professional niche I've been seeking since I started reading your blog in 2007.
Congrats, Penelope — here's to the future of Brazen Careerist!
Posted by Lea on 08/26/2009 at 09:24am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations, Penelope!
Posted by Brenna on 08/26/2009 at 09:49am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I've done what you have hoped would happen-refer your site to many generation whatevers probably-z. You know what, none of them had heard of you and most didn't seem to interested in a career blog. But hey I am in my 40's and I enjoy your insights which I find to be true. And also the Agsperger syndrome hasn't really been too bad for you. Afterall if you were not so egocentric you would not be able to withstand the number of times you have been fired and the ability to start your own business. Seems to me in the egocentric world, none of your terminations would have been your fault. That is a beautiful thing! Blogging for friendship when it doesn't really require any emotional investment on your part is a great fit for a busy person trying to have everything. I will continue to do my part by referring to your blog and encouraging the young'ins to read it. But, frankly I find this generation z has zero vision or creativity, they just seem content to tow the line and think that work is comprised of doing what one is told. To me that is the greatest problem of this generation, they have watched and accepted that one has to play the corporate game of submission to survive. I guess that is a point of discord between us-you see them as not settling and I see them as always settling and lacking any vision-content to be drones as long as they can listen to their I-pod.
Posted by Bridget on 08/26/2009 at 10:31am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations!! I'm going to go sign up now. :)
BTW just because the intarwebs and social networks are relatively new does not mean you do not have friends in the blogosphere. The people who say that just aren't used to the myriad ways friendship can evolve. There's a reason we feel warm inside – it's because we're connecting with others. That's not insignificant.
-A blogging friend
Posted by spleeness on 08/26/2009 at 12:17pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I completely identify with you feeling like your blog readers are your friends. I feel the exact same way! We are your friends, your fans, and sometimes your biggest critics. I would venture to say that it's important to have healthy relationships outside of the virtual world, but it looks like you and the Farmer are doing just fine. What about girl friends though? Makes me want to write a post on the importance of female friendships for all my Crazy Girl readers. And PT – you are definitely a Crazy Girl. :)
Posted by CrazyGirl Nation | Advice for Crazy Girls and the People Who Love Us on 08/26/2009 at 01:09pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congrats Penelope! I love your blog, read it often and share with as many female/Gen Y colleagues as possible.
I'm so excited to see that you've launched your new business. Do you have any plans to launch in Canada?
Posted by Courtney on 08/26/2009 at 02:04pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thanks for the nice comment, Courtney!
Canada is on our radar. To be honest, the first thing we need to do is put Canada in the menu of choices for country on our profile page :) But we're getting there.
-Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on 08/27/2009 at 09:03am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations, Penelope, and good luck with the new venture! Have enjoyed the candor and astute observations in your blogs, a refreshing contrast to the jargon, doublespeak and nonsensical "phrases of the day" you often hear from heads of industry these days in the corporate world.
Posted by Doug on 08/26/2009 at 02:39pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations Penelope. We wish you success.
- Dale
Posted by Dale on 08/26/2009 at 03:27pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I just cannot get over how ugly and hateful some people can be in their comments.
P- getting a diagnosis is a very personal decision. Frankly, I admire those who don't need one, but that's not where my head was at ten years ago when I sought one. Asperger's wasn't well known then among adults. There were few social histories one could read and no mutual community support. Having alexithymia (poor articulation of emotions) and lacking the social stories of others to provide parameters or some context in which to comparatively interpret my own experiences, I needed a diagnosis. There was no yardstick then against which I could measure myself. Only stories written by adults about what they *thought* their kids were going through.
Also, I was desperately hoping -at that time- that I didn't have it. Then, many people still thought it was mental illness so there was a lot more stigma. At that time, I was still holding out for the promise of a pill to make me "normal", not realizing what I'd be giving up.
Posted by Kathleen on 08/26/2009 at 03:46pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am proud of the work you have done re: your business and wish you much sucess. I'm 50+, but have been following your blog for awhile. There are times when I can't believe what you write and other times when your depth, insight, and intelligence almost hurts my eyes! I vascilate between wanting to admonish you, then protect you–to applauding your strength in living your choices. I'll sign up and take a look at your new company. Best regards.
Posted by Helen on 08/26/2009 at 03:49pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
As Kathleen mentioned.. I get pretty turned off at some of the ignorant/rude comments some people make here. if you ever want to hire a bouncer for the community I'd be happy to take the job.
Posted by Amanda Hite on 08/26/2009 at 04:44pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think I've been (virtually) hanging with the Gen Y crowd long enough now over at BC that it's starting to rub off on me … which is a good thing. So, as RP would say, Penelope, you rock!
Posted by Mark W. on 08/26/2009 at 08:00pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
I'm really glad I discovered your blog in a random google search about work effectiveness after a stressful 14-hour day at the office a few months ago. Since then, I got your book and have been looking forward to your blog posts. Now that the site is live, I am excited about the opportunity for better connectedness to the brazen community. Thank you for making it possible for us!
Posted by Tanya on 08/26/2009 at 10:04pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I registered on the site yesterday, and based on the first impression and filling my profile here are couple thoughts.
To me it seems from the start, that the main way to interact with others on the site is through the different groups, and I also find that for me at least that's the part of the site where I get value for my time.
For now there aren't that many groups, but assuming that their number increases some kind of tag-based search for groups might be useful.
However, the biggest headache for me is, that after I have joined some groups I have to check them individually to see what's been happening since I visited the site last time. It would be great to have one page that would show the latest activities in each group (feed, most active discussions etc.).
Looking forward to see how your company evolves. Good luck! :)
Posted by Sami on 08/28/2009 at 08:11am | permalink | Reply to this comment
For those interested, Tyler Cowen's new book, Create Your Own Economy, is a really interesting look at how many characteristics that are associated with Autism or Asperger's are beneficial to many. It also mentions that usually the people who are diagnosed aren't terribly high achieving, but there are plenty of people who are high achieving who may or may not 100% fit current diagnostic criteria, but who certainly have many similar characteristics/patterns/values… Really interesting read.
Posted by CosetTheTable on 08/28/2009 at 12:55pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"It also mentions that usually the people who are diagnosed aren't terribly high achieving,…"
Oh, he doesn't say that. I'm dx'ed and fairly successful. It's more a case that some people don't *need* a diagnosis (see my earlier comment) or they don't want to say. There's plenty of stigma (you don't see me posting my last name but you could find it easily on the first page of his book). People who are lower achieving have more to gain from disclosing a dx as far as social services and therapies are concerned. Being typically under employed, they also often have more time to do it. But it's not the complete picture to say people with dx's are lower functioning.
Btw, today is my Re-Birthday! Yeah me! It's the tenth anniversary of my diagnosis which gave me the appropriate context to have begun a whole new life!
Posted by Kathleen on 08/28/2009 at 01:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Just a quick note; I'm having problems with the email notifications. I've turned those off in the settings couple times already and checked that they've been saved, but I still keep receiving them and after I log back in the settings have been reverted.
Anyone else having similar problem?
Posted by Sami on 08/28/2009 at 04:48pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
#1: You Rock. Your journey has been inspiring and humorous to follow. (I say humorous in the good way, I promise.)
#2: Updating my Brazen profile has just made its way to my Highrise task list. It takes a lot to get on that list.
#3: One day when you're rich and famous, you'll hire a consumer marketing strategist like me to take on the Ryan Healy guns.
#4: My best to you, your son, and The Farmer,
Zach (a web geek who grew up on a tobacco farm)
Posted by Zach Ware on 09/05/2009 at 01:00am | permalink | Reply to this comment
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Posted by Christian Louboutin Boots on 10/07/2009 at 08:37pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congrats Penelope, I have one piece of advice as someone with several businesses. Use your marketing budget very wisely and I would advise on internet marketing for obvious reasons. Good luck anyway, it's a tough road but the rewards are worth it in the end!
Posted by Champagne Fountains on 10/24/2009 at 09:22am | permalink | Reply to this comment
That's neat- declare yourself disabled in a trendy, non proessionally evaluated way! Lots of other people who wish they were ill, too, can all sing along. I can't wait until we get to read all about your traumatic brain injury.
The overarching dx here is Mnchausen Syndrome, and delight of delights it, too, has workplace consequencs!
Posted by bang on 12/06/2009 at 09:27pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
As someone who is currently working away on a new online career, it's very interesting to read about your experiences. I'm going to go and have a look at Brazen Careerest right now.
Posted by April on 01/28/2010 at 09:43am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I was reading your link to the article on Asperger's and lack of empathy. I think it's wrong for people to assume Asperger's Syndrome or a person on the Autism Spectrum means someone is uncaring. The article you linked to seemed to make the husband appear as an immature child-like person, rather then a person who has trouble expressing their feelings because they may be overwhelming.
What troubled me was the joke about "Oh a man died in the washroom, when can they take him out so I can go in?", people actually people on the Autism Spectrum actually think this way. I understand if you feel you relate to the article, or it explains why you find trouble making friends. However, I see it as another article making people with Asperger's Syndrome seem as other, or intimidating. I honestly think there should be less of this notion, that a lack of empathy is the same thing as being uncaring or even narccistic. Perhaps you should note in this post, that the majority of people with Asperger's Syndrome do understand how to interact with others, and a lack of empathy doesn't mean "Acts like a bratty 2 year old child" as the article seemed to suggest.
Posted by Jackie on 03/19/2010 at 05:55am | permalink | Reply to this comment