I'm growing sour on travel. I have always disliked it. When I was a kid my parents took us all over Europe and the Caribbean, and it really exhausted me. Now that I'm a grown up, I am better able to articulate why I think travel is a waste of time. Here are four reasons why I think the benefits of travel are largely delusional:
1. There are more effective ways to try new things.
While it's true that learning and broadening your experience is important, doing that one time is quite different from consistently integrating something new into your life. It's low risk to try something for a week. Which will make more impact on your life: going to Africa for a week and seeing wildlife and living in the jungle, or retooling your weekly schedule so that you take a walk through your local forest preserve once a week? You will have a stronger connection to the forest preserve than the jungle, and you will have a deeper sense of how it grows and changes and how you respond. So if you hope that travel will change how you see the world, doing something each week to see the world differently will have more impact than doing it one time, seven days in a row.
2. Cultural differences are superficial. Economic differences matter.
Don't tell yourself you travel to learn about different cultures. Because you don't necessarily learn from people in other cultures. And you don't need to leave the US to find cultures different from your own.
Frans Johansson writes about diversity, and he says that race is not a indicator of diversity any more—background is. And the most diverse backgrounds come from economic disparity. So a rich white person and a poor white person are more different than a rich white person and a rich black person.
I think this is true across cultures as well. I had a South African roommate in college. But she was just like me: rich, white, Jewish. But when I lived on a French farm for a summer, the big difference between me and the farm family wasn't that they were French. It was that they were living on a farm. I know this because when they figured out I was unhappy, they sent me to live with their cousins in Lyon—a large city in France—and the cousins were just like me.
3. People who love their lives don't leave.
Imagine if you were excited to get out of bed every day because you had structured your life so that every day was full of what you have always dreamed of doing. And you were in love with your boyfriend, and your job, and your new handstand in yoga. You love it all—imagine that. Would you want to leave all that behind for two weeks? What would be the point? You'd have more fun at home than away from home. So instead of traveling somewhere, how about figuring out what you'd really love to be doing with your time, and do that? In your real, day-to-day life.
4. Travel is not the time to do deep thinking.
People who need an escape so they can think deeply actually need to add that to their daily life. How about setting aside time to think deeply every few days? Sam Anderson suggests in his article in New York magazine that meditation is so important that people are going to start making time for it in the same way we make time for exercise now. So maybe that travel bug you are feeling is actually a give-me-headspace bug, and if you think you need it only for a couple of weeks, you're wrong. You need time to think each day. Re-craft your days to honor that need, instead of running away for what can only be a temporary respite.
My guess is that the things you are aiming to accomplish while you travel are generally things you could accomplish on a deeper level if you stayed home and made changes to your life instead of running away. Routine and practice are the keys to giving deeper meaning to your life. Sure, disrupting routine is important for gaining new perspective. But you certainly don't need to travel to the next country. There is plenty that is new right where you are now. Just look closely.









I'll probably get as much flak for this comment as you will for this post, but I actually agree with just about everything you said here (especially #3). I find myself far more interested in what makes people the same than what makes them different. I find myself in the minority as someone who doesn't particularly enjoy travel. I can, however, understand why so many do, but this post really resonated for me.
Posted by Alex @ Happiness in this World on 08/17/2009 at 08:25am | permalink | Reply to this comment
"Imagine if you were excited to get out of bed every day because you had structured your life so that every day was full of what you have always dreamed of doing. And you were in love with your boyfriend, and your job, and your new handstand in yoga. You love it all—imagine that."
You are describing 5% or less of the population.
Sometimes you need to get away.
Posted by Tom on 08/17/2009 at 08:33am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Why you would think this I have no idea. Everything in American culture suggests the opposite.
Posted by John on 08/18/2009 at 01:17am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Well said. I think people radically underestimate the cultural differences between rich and poor.
Posted by Alanna on 08/17/2009 at 08:34am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I love #3. You have just given me something new to aspire to. Even if it only occurs to 5% of the population :)
Posted by mamaworker on 08/17/2009 at 08:46am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I have to say I agree with mamaworker.
you are dead wrong about this one!
Jen
Posted by Jen on 08/26/2009 at 06:09am | permalink | Reply to this comment
You are wrong.
Not that your opinion is wrong, but you are factually wrong.
I've been reading your blog long enough that I get your shtick. Say something controversial or shocking and let the comments roll in. In this case, you are just making a set of gross generalizations to justify what I assume is you fear or just lack of a desire to travel. Instead of just accepting you are different, it is easier to make the rest of the world wrong.
I've spent the last two and a half years traveling around the world, traveling to over 60 countries. Unlike you I did it as an adult, not as a child. I did it after being a successful entrepreneur. Moreover, I can't say I've ever encountered someone who has traveled and regretted it.
Specifically dealing with your arguments:
1) I'm sure there are some things you can try without traveling, but trying to compare walking through a forest in Madison, WI with going on a photo safari in Africa is absurd. Have you been on an African safari? If not, how in the world can you make a comparison? I grew up in Wisconsin and I've been in the rainforests of Borneo. Borneo is nothing like Wisconsin. I love Wisconsin, but you can't universalize that experience.
2) You are smoking crack. Go to Japan. It is an advanced, modern, rich country. It is most certainly not the same the United States. This is due to culture. I've had many discussion with Chinese about differences in culture which are based different assumptions, beliefs, and attitudes which have nothing to do with economics. Again, I'm sorry you had a bad experience on the French farm as a teenager, but that is hardly something which can extrapolate to the rest of the world. There is more to the world than European capitals and Caribbean resorts.
3) Can't the be said of any change in life? People who love their lives don't change anything about it. This sounds like a post hoc justification of someone who is afraid to travel, that your life is so perfect that there is no point. As with any other change in life (having kids, starting a business, moving) travel can be a method of improving your life.
4) This depends on what you want to think about. If you are a product manager and want to think about how you can sell products outside of the US, traveling can be a great time to think about things. I don't know why travel has to justify itself as a time to think about things.
I've met many people who have taken career breaks to travel extensively. None of them regretted it and in no cases that I know of did it hurt their career (ostensibly the focus of this site).
If you don't like to travel, that's fine. That's your business. Trying to make sweeping generalizations about something you know little about to justify your lack of desire to travel is absurd.
Posted by Gary Arndt on 08/17/2009 at 08:49am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Agreed. I was going to say "Penelope doesn't like to travel, which is fine. She then states why it's stupid for everyone to travel, which is silly."
To each their own. How about "4 Reasons Why I Don't Like to Travel."
Oh, right, because then there would be fewer comments (for example, I would have found it very interesting to read why you don't like to travel; but I might not have commented).
It's very dramatic.
Pen
Posted by Pen on 08/17/2009 at 01:18pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
SNAP. Comparing her local park to an African safari was a hilarious example of complete ignorance and stupidity.
Posted by Jessica on 08/17/2009 at 04:48pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Could not have said it any better myself. This post is pure link bait.
Posted by Chris Rakowski on 08/18/2009 at 07:20am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I do not agree with everything PT says in fact it is always a mixture of WTF is this crap next to the great stuff. Gary Arndt I feel a need to clear things up for you as you seem uncapable.
1)She was comparing the WI to Africa in terms of utility not experience. You are assuming that we should enjoy Africa over any other forest. I believe you are "universalizing" there.
2)First of all if you ever want to be taken serious you should leave crack references out of the way because it seems as if you got that from a movie reference and have no idea what it means to smoke crack. Being a former athlete and basically living with 400 different people from all over the country and 5 countries. Although we may have been different in color the real divide came from wealth. The difference between likes, expectations, wants, needs, was most closely related monetarily not geographically. Any place that it is acceptable to shit in the middle of the street, among other things is not rich. You saw the tourist area I am sure. Back to PT's point, if you are traveling to learn different cultures just as much can be learned from someone in a different socioeconomic background.
3) What I believe she was saying is that most intelligent, self aware, driven people get what they want. It is not that do not want to change but they figured out what they wanted (the hardest part) and got it. Once again probably should not attack ones "opinion or belief" if you want to have a credible argument.
4) Although her blog is about career I believe she meant was personal travel. As a child she was not traveling for business not sure if you picked that up or not.
Do you think that maybe it didn't hurt there career because they figured out what they wanted and then got it. Maybe that is what they needed, for some people it could be something different. What I got from this is that if you are ready to figure out what makes you happy than traveling is not the "get rich quick" method.
I do not think she made any generalizations I just think you missed the boat, plane, or train (pun intended).
Posted by traveler on 08/18/2009 at 11:30am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Curious why you took his reply so personally when so many people had the same reaction including me. Her reasons for not traveling are valid for Penelope but certainly not valid for the majority who love to travel. You need to do less worshipping of Penelope and much more thinking for yourself.
Posted by Sidney on 2009-08-19 17:53:53 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
I agree wholeheartedly. I find it interesting that the writer prefaced her article about how traveling is a "waste of time" by stating her parents dragged her all over the world as a child. That's not how you build up credibility for your point of view — quite the opposite!
Besides, I grew up in Kansas — going out to see the world, living in other countries, was definitely not a waste of time. It was, overall, a wonderful, enriching experience — both the positive and negative experiences were valuable spiritual food. It does without saying, for instance, that living in India for 6 months did something important for me, something not definable.
Posted by David Caruso on 08/18/2009 at 12:36pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Basically, everything you said here is right on.
Posted by Sara on 08/18/2009 at 02:24pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow, I have been reading Penelope's blog for a while too and generally I see her point very well and often agree but this is one that I think is bizarre. I too have travelled extensively, both for work and for recreation. I have to admit that when travelling for work I am eager to get home, but overall my life experience and appreciation for humanity and the earth to whome we owe our exisitence id far richer for the travel expereinces I have had.
Me think Penelope just doesn;t like travel, and there is nothing wrong with that, but her 4 reasons are exactly the reasons why the rest of the world often refer's to the US as 'Planet America', lol.
Perhaps Penelope is just playing with us, i hope so anyway.
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Posted by Sarah on 08/25/2009 at 12:06am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This post is ironic: though I agree with the points made, those points can only be learned by visiting new places and cultures.
It's one thing to read a blog, and it's another to experience it. I, for one, will be learning and re-learning the points in this post over and over again until I die, because that's what I enjoy doing.
Posted by Adam Hooper on 08/17/2009 at 08:52am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Point #2 resonated most with me. I don't disagree with your other three points, but only to say that it depends on what type of travel you've designed. For example, my wife and I travel from Ottawa, Canada, to the East Coast at least once a year to visit family and friends. Sure it's nice to visit, but by the time I get home I'm sucked out…and what did I learn?
Conversely, we did a three week train trip down through the Midwest to San Diego in May 2008. Now that was a buzz. Initially, I wanted to fly direct to San Diego to see my aunt, but the missus hates flying. Good thing she talked me out of it since flying sucks; you miss everything. So there's a balance in life when it comes to staying rooted at home or always on the go, travelling somewhere.
Posted by Jim on 08/17/2009 at 08:57am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I was intrigued by the title but my face fell when I read the content. Mamawrker above is absolutely correct so I don't need to repeat what she has said. I'm just amazed that an educated (and widely travelled) person such as yourself could have come to that conclusion. I grew up on an island where tourism is the main industry and I can imagine 'tourist destinations' being quite tedious but that really is not the point. America is a big country and your type of view comes up in many different ways – but I don't think you could convince a Brit.
I hope you get around a bit more with a more open mind.
Posted by tropicalismo360 on 08/17/2009 at 09:00am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I like my life, my job, and my hometown—but that doesn't mean that when the mercury reaches 20 below zero in the middle of January that I don't want to head somewhere warmer for a week or two. If I can choose a place that encourages me to learn a new language, try a new food, and experience a new culture, so much the better.
Posted by Erin on 08/17/2009 at 09:00am | permalink | Reply to this comment
No "s" at the end of Lyon.
Have a nice day!
Posted by Calliope on 08/17/2009 at 09:01am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thanks. Got it. :)
-Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on 08/17/2009 at 11:10am | permalink | Reply to this comment
The other thing about travel is that most people get the Tourist Version of whatever place they're visiting. The experiences that they have tend to be constructed by the local tourist industry to pander to tourists' preconceived notions, and to water down and sugar coat everything for easier consumption.
Posted by timdellinger on 08/17/2009 at 09:01am | permalink | Reply to this comment
That depends on where and how you travel – but yes, that is true for most people.
Posted by Sara on 08/18/2009 at 02:26pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Very interesting post. It's the first in a long time that actually made me think twice about things.
Posted by Smith+Fritzy on 08/17/2009 at 09:01am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thank you Gary, I couldn't have said it better myself.
One other thing – how about adventure and natural beauty? Is your life that perfect that you wouldn't be thrilled by ziplining through the rain forests in Costa Rica or boarding down volcanos in Nicaragua?
Do yourself a favor and visit some unique places of true beauty – Macchu Pichu and China's Lijiang river are two recent sites that come to mind. How about seeing the northern lights?
I could go on but I think you get my point. I think my life is great too, and I wouldn't trade it for anything. But the point is you don't have to trade it – you can go away for a relatively short time, see things you never dreamed existed, and if you're lucky share the experience with someone you love.
Sorry, and I mean this in the nicest possible way because I really do enjoy your blog, but at best you sound like boring workaholic, and at worst a typical passport-less American.
Posted by Jon on 08/17/2009 at 09:03am | permalink | Reply to this comment
P is not a workaholic. She's a narcissist. There's a big difference. Aside from blogging and self-promotion, what "work" does she do?
Posted by Gary on 08/18/2009 at 01:21am | permalink | Reply to this comment
PT:
Ironic you cite yoga and meditation in your post! You do realise that if nobody had travelled, you would never have heard of yoga. Or for that matter, the kind of meditation that is now the subject of much research but that has roots in Hinduism and Buddhism, religions that are not native to your country/ continent and you only know of them because someone travelled.
Jewish people, who travelled to India, had (until the attack in Mumbai in Nov 2008) the unique distinction of being the only Jewish people not to have been persecuted in any manner. Perhaps their travel was futile in your eyes.
Oh, and really smart people know that nothing is permanent – not even lovely lives they lead and love. They do not fiddle with their schedules, they get out and do things.
I say all this as a person who lives 1000s of miles away from the continent she was born in and works with clients in 3 continents, including yours. I love that life and it came about with travel. I have gained languages, been introduced to a wide range of music and literature, appreciated my blessings, gotten to know many new friends. Oh, and perspective. To appreciate the world beyond my own little pond.
PS: Like Gary Arndt here, we all understand some posts are for driving traffic but the reasoning here is eye-watering. Seriously.
Posted by Shefaly on 08/17/2009 at 09:06am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Just to reiterate the importance of mamaworker's comment – and the critical line: "Say something controversial or shocking and let the comments roll in"
I'm off this blog (don't worry, you won't miss me)
Posted by tropicalismo360 on 08/17/2009 at 09:07am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Interesting post. And while it's based on lots of assumptions based on your own life experiences (which can probably be said for all of our assumptions) I'll tackle only one. Point #3: "Imagine if you were excited to get out of bed every day because you had structured your life so that every day was full of what you have always dreamed of doing."
What do you do if what you have always dreamed of doing is traveling? What if you get excited about waking up in a new city on a regular basis? What if you love the thrill of not knowing where you'll be in a month? What if you revel in the freedom of going where you please?
Does that mean one doesn't love their life? Or does it simply mean that we're all different and we all love different aspects of life?
So while travel is obviously not right for you, that doesn't mean it's not right for countless others.
As always, great post, especially the baiting headline. :)
Posted by Karol Gajda on 08/17/2009 at 09:08am | permalink | Reply to this comment
@ Gary I don't agree with a good deal of the things Penelope has to say either. I still enjoy most of her posts. Any of the good points you had to make started losing ground the moment you started using insults in your rebuttal. Yes controversy is a great marketing tool. There is more to both this blog and writer than that. Go ahead and check out by her. and if you still want to say those things than say them without insults. That is bad form, and is only necessary if your argument is not strong enough to stand on its own.
@ Penelope. I love every point you made. I still want to travel, but I think that a lot of the things that I would look for I can make part of my every day life, and I love that. After all, if you can't find happiness where you are, going half way around the world is not going to change that. Great post!
Posted by JS Dixon on 08/17/2009 at 09:13am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I love to read about different perspectives on all issues and be able to discuss these in an open forum. For my wife and I, we absolutely love our lives in Seattle and my job is extremely rewarding. Our decision to leave on a multi-year trip around the world is due to the fact that there is so much in the world to see and experience and for us this is important. For us, travel is a passion and the experience we are anxious to embark on.
The key is ultimately that every person identify what is really important to him/her and embrace it fully, whether it be travel, starting a business, or learning to sail. Even more important to me is that everyone explores what is really important to them in their lives and attacks it with the voracity that it deserves.
I do believe that embracing new cultures and having different experiences can be life changing. The following quote sums up my feelings best on the subject of why one should travel:
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one’s lifetime.” –Mark Twain, The Innocents Abroad (1869)
Posted by Warren Talbot on 08/17/2009 at 09:13am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I highly disagree with this post. Last time I checked you weren't going to see a giraffe wandering around the forest preserve in Wisconsin. And while watching some nature shows on TV can be cool, it's nothing like experiencing something in person. Just as looking at the Mona Lisa in the Louvre is different than looking at it in a book.
I also don't agree that people who love their lives don't leave. Many people are capable of loving their lives both when they're in the daily grind and when they're halfway across the world on a beach or exploring a rainforest. It's narrow-minded to think that people have to do the same thing all the time to love their lives.
Posted by Jen on 08/17/2009 at 09:15am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Poor article. Dont feel like agreeing or disagreeing. Very ordinary.
Posted by Arun on 08/17/2009 at 09:15am | permalink | Reply to this comment
While one can take in culture locally rather than traveling (although I agree with previous commenters that it's really not the same), there is no prospect of changing local weather to permit doing what you want.
My husband and I like to take walks. We do it frequently from October through April, but the other five months, it's more than 100 degrees where we live.
Posted by bottomofthe9th on 08/17/2009 at 09:16am | permalink | Reply to this comment
What if something you've always wanted to see or do is not at home? The only way to REALLY see the art in Florence is to go to Florence. The only way to REALLY see a vast plain full of elephants and zebras is to go to Africa. The only way to REALLY experience the ocean is to be near the ocean.
I think you just needed a new post, are having a pretty happy life today, and phoned this one in.
Posted by Jane Greer on 08/17/2009 at 09:20am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I've noticed that those who travel-rich or not-are usually less narrow-minded in regards to their situations in life compared to what others might be experiencing.
I think you missed this in your adventures. Even when I toured Europe at the young age of 15, I knew that downtown London was 'rich' and that the small towns in Austria weren't so much. I also knew where I would fit in the most because of that.
Now, after visiting over a dozen countries, I will argue that it is an eye-opener. a fire alarm going off in Sweden has an entirely different meaning than one going off in Minnesota-several towns have completely burned down in Sweden's history. Not so much in the U.S.
Only a narrow-minded outlook on life will allow for a viewpoint that travel is a waste of time. After all, life is what you make it.
Posted by Liza on 08/17/2009 at 09:20am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think traveling provides an opportunity to develop or improve skills that are important in life and business that you don't even address here. You have to be flexible, and a problem-solver. There is no substitute for figuring out wtf to do when you have lost your wallet and passport in the middle of a foreign country, or because you missed a ferry to get to whatever place you were staying for the night and now it's 11:30 pm in an unfamiliar city and all the hotels are booked because there's a convention and no one speaks English and you have literally no idea where you're going to sleep. If you travel alone, you get to know yourself. If you travel with another person, you get to know them in ways you couldn't in another way. You learn how to talk to strangers, entertain yourself (during those long train rides), and pack lightly. And one more thing – I do love traveling, but I always come back with a deeper appreciation for my home, and everything that's great about it. Sometimes you have to leave in order to appreciate what you have.
Posted by Sara on 08/17/2009 at 09:30am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Why do you need to generalize from your experiences to the rest of us?
I find travel to be wonderful. I learn, I make new friends who are totally different from me, and I enjoy it. But I wouldn't encourage YOU to travel, because YOU clearly don't enjoy it. I also like baking, but can accept that you might not. I despise running. Running makes me tired and cranky and sore. But I don't assume from that experience that other people shouldn't run, because some of them seem to really like it.
What I got from your article is a sense of sour grapes. You had some lousy travel experiences. But you don't want to think that you are a bad traveler, or just got unlucky. No, there needs to a deeper message about why travel is bad or at least unnecessary for everyone, not just you.
Posted by DT on 08/17/2009 at 09:32am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I disagree. I think (as a well-traveled person) that traveling really enriches people. It broadens their minds. I am not talking about going to a resort in Punta Cana. I've done that too and while it's lovely, it's not what broadens a mind. It's the visiting of cultural landmarks, history museums and visiting with the locals that really makes the difference. The rest of the world is SO different than the US. It's a shame to not experience that.
Posted by La Petite Belle on 08/17/2009 at 09:37am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I don't much like travel (well, being a tourist) either, but I have always loved living abroad — I am not sure where that would fit in your schema.
I do agree that making your life at home more enjoyable is better than travel.
Posted by Sarah on 08/17/2009 at 09:37am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I travel to Japan every year to do the one thing I can't do in the states. Visit my wife's family. Penelope's observation about cultural differences is dead on. The cultural differences are mostly superficial. Tokyo is just like any other big city. If you go to rural areas of Japan the differences are more pronounced, but they have more to do with being in farm country than they do with the culture.
I'm surprised by the hostility in the comments. I agree with just about everything in the post, but I love to travel and that is not going to change.
However, working a walk in the woods into my weekly schedule probably would do more for me than the African safari. So i'll do both.
Posted by Jeromy Timmer on 08/17/2009 at 09:39am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hi Penelope:
This is the first time I have the chance to read your blog. Unfortunately, this post is the first one I read too. But I don´t think is accurate and I strongly disagree with all 4 of the developed statements.
Travelling and tourism have their pros and cons. When you travel you don´t only see, experience and remember good things. Because none of them are perfect. None of us, human beings who make, live, feel, experience and recreate tourism, are.
I think It´s ok if you don´t like travelling and you never did. What it´s not ok is to make the good things about travelling, bad ones.
I agree on what you say in your last paragraph. Disrupting routing is necessary to gain perspective. Travelling is one way of leaving routing for some days, to gain perspective. But this is only one of the various reasons for people who choose to travel, to start or continue travelling.
If you think that the world is at your feet or could be discovered just walking round the corner, maybe you are looking to a tiny piece, your world, out of a huge present that could be discovered by us every day, which is life and other persons lives.
Posted by Verónica Aimar on 08/17/2009 at 09:55am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This post almost could have been titled "ways to get the benefits of travel without leaving home" — as it does remind those of us who love to travel that we could make time in our daily and weekly schedule to have the experiences we appreciate so much when travelling.
Posted by Wendy on 08/17/2009 at 10:11am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Yikes, painfully bad post (and I usually love your posts and will definitely keep reading).
All I have to say is that you've never really traveled. Sad to say, if you ever got sent overseas, you'd be one of those people eating KFC and Starbucks everyday and complaining about your self-imposed, minimal contact with the locals.
I think anyone who is a real traveler here just rolled their eyes. We know you're type and we'll see you at the McDonald's in Paris…
Posted by Rose on 08/17/2009 at 10:12am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I really wish you were right about travel. I haven't been able to travel outside the US in 10 years. It would be great to say, "Travel sucks, I'm not missing anything." But I know that's not true–travel is important as a growth experience.
Even if you go the most touristy part of a touristy country, you're still doing something different than what you do every other day, forcing some novelty into your brain, having to re-evaluate the stuff you do at home.
Also, when I meet someone and can't stand them because they're so smugly set in their habits and patterns of thought, and convinced they're right about everything, I find a lot of the time it's because they either don't read, don't travel, or both.
Posted by boots on 08/17/2009 at 10:14am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I enjoy traveling a lot and like many people it's one of my goals to accomplish more of it.
That said, it's nice to see an argument against traveling and strong arguments, at that. Point #2 is very true and I never really saw it like that. Race and nationality do provide difference but not nearly as much as economics. All four points are equally thought provoking.
I'd much rather spend my money on occasional travel than spend money accumulating stuff I don't need. I will still continue to make traveling a priority, but now I can do it with open eyes. I realize now that traveling is not done for the reasons we normally believe it's for.
Posted by Valerie M on 08/17/2009 at 10:19am | permalink | Reply to this comment
"My guess is that the things you are aiming to accomplish while you travel are generally things you could accomplish on a deeper level if you stayed home and made changes to your life instead of running away."
Who says you have to accomplish something when you travel? Why can't you just go for fun and adventure? I'm sorry, but I like mountains, I live in Dallas, TX–when I travel to the mountains, I'm not looking to accomplish deep thinking or establish cultural differences–I'm going because I have a need to get out in the open air. I like living in Dallas–I can ride my horse year round, my family is here, etc. etc. but sometimes I just have to go to the mountains. It really is that simple.
Why do people feel like they have to accomplish something all the time? I think that is a sad life–how can you ever sit back and truly enjoy activities if you always have an agenda? This has nothing to do with laziness or lack of ambition–and everything to do with the fact that I don't want ever evaluate my life based solely on accomplishments–there has to be a mixture between that and fun–zest for life, going and doing the things that make you happy–and if you travel and it makes you happy–who cares if you didn't accomplish anything when you were happy while you were doing it?
Posted by Heather on 08/17/2009 at 10:21am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I love travel for pleasure and to enrich my life. I think about my next trip all the time and one of the reasons I work hard is to have the time and money to travel. Travelling to Europe and across my own country improves my organization and planning skills as well as my interpersonal skills and patience. Seeing the Rocky Mountains or a medieval city or the ocean for the first time are experiences that I wouldn’t trade for anything and could never duplicate close to home. There are no whales where I live. But the thing I love most is seeing the little differences in how people live their everyday lives and meeting people with different world views. Seeing how other people live improves empathy, whether their economic status is similar to mine or not. Europeans who get 6+ weeks of vacation a year have a different outlook than North Americans who make the same money but only get 2 weeks off.
On the other hand I think business travel is a huge waste of time and money. Most of what is accomplished should and could be done online. Speeches can be given remotely, contacts can be made online. If the tools we have are insufficient to replace business travel, they can and will be improved within the next few years. Most business travelers see the inside of a hotel, conference room or office that is the same as the one at home and eat meals at chain restaurants without having any time to experience the place they travelled to.
Posted by Veronica Sawyer on 08/17/2009 at 10:21am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I love travel, but the funny thing I find is that people always want to flit off to 'exotic' locations in the heart of Africa or the middle of the Sahara for the experience – yet the same experiences can be had in their home country for a third of the price.
My home state, for example, offers similar natural experiences to almost a third of the world. My home country – half the world. Throw in a few neighbouring countries and I've almost gone through every terrain type in the world.
Of course, that still leaves archaelogical/historic interests as a motivation to blow $5K on an overseas trip, so I still try to hop on the plane once in a while.
As for people travelling to Third World countries to see what poverty is like…I can wander down to the train station and watch the bums fight each other for a sandwich or something.
Posted by Mike on 08/17/2009 at 10:36am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I had always wanted to see Angkor Wat and Petra in Jordan, but heck, Angkor Watt is just a church – I've got those right here in town, and Petra – just some stone buildings – plenty of those much closer to home. I was living in Berlin, Germany when the Wall came down. Who knew I could have just stayed home and torn down the fence in my yard to get the same experience? Thanks for enlightening me! (not!)
Closer to home, as an American, I've been to both Mexico and Canada. The culture and "feel" of Mexico is much different, while Canada is much closer to what I'm used to – but they are both still different enough to make a visit worthwhile. Heck, even traveling about the US is an experience to be savored. If you think there is little difference between your Madison and say, Memphis, Phoenix, or Boston, then you're spending way too much time inside a chain motel. Get out and see the differences. You might even learn something.
Posted by Dave on 08/17/2009 at 10:47am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Good post. Well-written and totally unapologetic, which is cool. It also gets people to reveal important parts of themselves, specifically the secret part that thinks everyone should do things the way they do them and think the way they think.
Easy trap to fall into. Thinking independently and honestly not giving a damn about the opinions of others is extremely difficult, and following a list of instructions–such as, get a college education, travel the world, work in the ghetto, seek the meaning of life through adrenaline highs, etc–won't magically give you the ability to do that.
NOTHING is a waste of time when done with a coherent idea behind it. If P's intention is to make you think about why you really do the things you do (I've always loathed the attitude that compels people to do things just to say they've done them), then I think this post succeeds.
Posted by Brad Gutting on 08/17/2009 at 10:52am | permalink | Reply to this comment
@Brad Gutting
Is it that hard to see that traveling, for many people, is not something "on a list of instructions", but just something that they genuinely enjoy?
Why can't I make argument #3 about _anything_ new? If I love my life, why should I need to read about other people? Why should I see movies that transport me to a different place? Why should I bother meeting new people? My life is perfect as it is, and if I feel the need to meet new people, it just means that I'm not truly happy, right?
This promotion of complacency is harmful, I think. And the holier-than-though attitude of "if you really loved your life, you wouldn't want to travel" is downright sickening.
Posted by Jon on 08/17/2009 at 11:06am | permalink | Reply to this comment
With all due respect, this post is written from the perspective of one who has traveled extensively. As only it can be. It is only because you were afforded that luxury by your parents, as a child, that you have this view. I'm not saying it's a wrong view, on the contrary, I share most of it myself. But that's because I stand on the other side of 2 emigrations. And I see how, barring culture, geography and economics, people are pretty much the same at core, world over. Yes, much of what people say the benefits are from traveling, can be learned effectively (or even more effectively) on home soil. But sometimes a new environment and a new perspective will give you a kick-start when nothing else will. That alone is valuable and not a waste of time. It all depends on the individual.
Posted by Natalie on 08/17/2009 at 11:09am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Yeah, Natalie. I think you're right. And Adam made the point near the top of the comments that it's ironic that you can only get this point of view about travel by traveling. All true.
But I think it's important for us all to reconsider the goals we have for travel. And what we really get from travel. And now that I think about it, maybe I'm really lucky that I've traveled so much that I understand the benefits of staying in one place.
Penleope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on 08/17/2009 at 11:18am | permalink | Reply to this comment
A lot of commenters are saying this was just a controversial post, written to garner comments. I don't know whether it is or it isn't. At the point I'm in my life, it resonated with me nonetheless,
I was born a rich (comparatively-speaking), white South Africa, left when things got rough, lived in quaint, repressed England for 5 years and now in the US for 6, including a year's stint in NYC. I've traveled to various other African countries, a paradise island, throughout the UK and into Europe. Although I wouldn't call myself well-traveled, I've seen enough to know what well-traveled truly means.
When locals here in MD, USA find this out about me, their eyes light up, their imaginations spark and they question, what the hell I am I doing in rural MD? You know what all this traveling has taught me? Family and friends are what's important. Nothing else. Reminds me of this song "I've never been to me"
Posted by Natalie on 2009-08-17 11:46:42 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
Travel is a hobby for some people just like anything else. Some people like knitting, some people like surfing, others like chess, just because someone doesn't value the same things as you, doesn't mean that they secretly hate their life, or whatever other motives you assign to their hobby. It just means they like different things than you.
Posted by Anon on 08/17/2009 at 11:10am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I really enjoy your blog, but this post struck a few sour notes with me.
1) You are writing as someone who has traveled all over the world. Sure, some of it was forced, and with your batshit crazy family, but you've had the privilege to go to other places. So it's funny for someone who has traveled everywhere to say "Nah, it's not worth it."
2) Americans don't travel enough. It's valuable to be in other places and see how other people live and maybe realize that the United States is not the center of the universe and that in a visceral way the people around you don't care about your pop culture or your money or speaking English. It's valuable to learn foreign languages. It's valuable to bring back stories, things, sights, photos, memories, food you tried, etc. from the rest of the world and incorporate things into your daily life.
Posted by JenniferP on 08/17/2009 at 11:19am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I agree with this – for one or two week getaways. When you're away for a short time, you only have time to adjust to a different place and then prepare to go back. You get a snapshot of a different way of life and that's it.
I went for 6 months in India, across small towns. That was totally worth it. It was transformative and gave me a reference that lasted me the rest of my life. Of course, in small towns it is a totally different socio-economic makeup. Leprosy was evident on the street and suffering was visible. Being in a place where that isn't shuffled away into non-visible homeless shelters is touching in itself.
Posted by Matthew | Polaris Rising on 08/17/2009 at 11:30am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Whereas I've learned things even on brief trips. I don't think that makes them equivalent to your travels in India–I just don't think it's necessary to dismiss different experiences.
Posted by KateNonymous on 08/17/2009 at 02:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
First and foremost – cultural differences ARE important.
I mean have you ever talked to a off-the-boat eastern european? I had two friends from University who were off-the-boaters but came from very different situations: One was from a nobody family from a backwater Ukranianian town and the other had parents with PH.D's and was from a bigger Russian centre. Economically myself and the PH.D. were from similar situations – it didn't matter, those two guys thought in a completely different way than anyone else I went to school with. Since then every time I have had the opportunity to work with someone who grew up in that region my experiences have been the same – Something about Russian culture means that typically Russians think differently.
As far as travelling goes – I agree that travelling somewhere for a week doesn't help you getting perspective, and it won't typically give you all that much cultural experience (being friends with those eastern europeans for the last many years has given me much more perspective than travelling to Russia for a week ever could). However, extended duration travel provides an entirely different experience than simply spending a week somewhere.
The perspective I gained from spending a year in Africa with Engineers Without Borders IS NOT something I could have acquired by spending my days at a homeless shelter in Winnipeg (the best economic condition comparison I could think of)
Posted by Marc KS on 08/17/2009 at 11:48am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think one of the very important points that Penelope makes is the worthy goal of creating a life that doesn't require a reset button through exotic travel or any other escape. There is beauty in the smallest of local treasures – in connections with people, no matter what culture or background. If you have to go to Paris to be romantic, something is wrong. If your life isn't good enough (I mean really, really FANTASTIC) without dancing the tango in Argentina or hiking in New Zealand or taking that African safari, then you aren't paying attention.
Places and things are great – they can teach us so much and we can all globally benefit from the education (many of the commenters above make terrific points about what we can all learn from travel). But there is also nothing wrong with what is already here in our backyards…right, Dorothy?
Posted by Amy Vachon on 08/17/2009 at 11:53am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, have you ever been to China? I have found the culture to be profoundly, structurally, psychologically, different.
Posted by LPC on 08/17/2009 at 12:00pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
You hated the farm in France, yet you're still with the Wisconsin farmer. Hmmm
As far as PT being controversial just to generate comments, well yah. Comments are the blogger's mother's milk. I'm convinced she'll take ten blistering comments over five compliments any day. (And I've done my part to oblige.)
Posted by JR on 08/17/2009 at 12:09pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think that there are clearly merits to traveling, but I agree with your points. Sometimes people travel for the wrong reasons. Thinking it will give them answers about what to do in life…but really it will only make you more confused.
Posted by meaghan on 08/17/2009 at 12:25pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm from a reasonably rich family in South America, now living i) the US (NYC and then North Carolina), and I find the culture extremely different here (individualism, competition, need for achievement), even in the same social-economic level.
2 quick examples:
I have friends who make beer at home in the U.S.. They are very competitive, always participating on contests for the best beer. In my native country, if you make beer, is to have fun and share with friends. Who cares about competitions?
Other friends compete in marathons, and they go crazy preparing to the next one. In my native country, a lot of friends participate in marathons, but they couldn't care less about winning or the time they make.
Living abroad made me understand my culture much better, because now I have means to compare it with a different one.
Posted by P.Alves on 08/17/2009 at 12:27pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Oh, and I'd like to second what DT says:
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Posted by P.Alves on 08/17/2009 at 12:29pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Damn, the brackets made the text go away:
"I find travel to be wonderful. I learn, I make new friends who are totally different from me, and I enjoy it. But I wouldn't encourage YOU to travel, because YOU clearly don't enjoy it. I also like baking, but can accept that you might not. I despise running. Running makes me tired and cranky and sore. But I don't assume from that experience that other people shouldn't run, because some of them seem to really like it.
"What I got from your article is a sense of sour grapes. You had some lousy travel experiences. But you don't want to think that you are a bad traveler, or just got unlucky. No, there needs to a deeper message about why travel is bad or at least unnecessary for everyone, not just you."
I couldn't agree more.
Posted by P.Alves on 08/17/2009 at 12:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
My life to date has been equally split over India, Fiji, Dubai, New Zealand and Australia (now the U.S) I have to say that I always got much more enjoyment out of living in a different country to understand the cultural differences than travelling to one. However, we did go to Peru for our honeymoon and it makes for better stories than most of my life's travel experiences. I think this is because we tend to have a compressed set of 'experiences' in a 2-3 week vacation. This is then very memorable and useful for impressing people. Recounting the experiences makes me an interesting person in front of other people. Don't all of us want that in some way? ;)
Posted by Isis on 08/17/2009 at 12:32pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I disagree with your premise. However, I do think there's a lot to be said for exploring your own back yard (so to speak). It's very easy to overlook local attractions, be they natural or manmade, or the economic and social diversity that exists nearby.
But I think you underestimate the power of culture. You weren't unhappy on the farm because of how that family earned their living. You were unhappy because you didn't connect with farming culture. It has a different calendar, clock, and set of priorities than urban culture, which was more familiar to you, even in a foreign language.
Posted by KateNonymous on 08/17/2009 at 12:36pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
PT is only reflecting what most people in the US instinctively know, the vast majority see no value spending time getting a passport. Actually doesn't it beat you why Americans would travel anywhere else but America? They've got everything they need at home. Heck, I heard you can go to Las Vegas and they've got the Eiffel Tower there, and gondolas. And P's right, underneath everybody in the world is the same as Americans, why leave the country to meet a poor Sinhalese farmer's family when you could spend time with a poor Nebraskan farmer's family and have just the exact same experience.
Yessiree!
Posted by Tony Randall on 08/17/2009 at 12:42pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hi Penelope.
The central argument in this post is that people could carve out bits of time in their regular schedule to experience the benefits of travel (e.g. trying new things, doing the things they love, deep thimking). You are theoretically right, but most people (including me) don't have the discipline to schedule in activities to make this happen. They need travel to force it upon themselves.
Think religion. Although all religions say that their adherents should be "spiritual" and "righteous" all of the time and have God in their thoughts all of the time, most folks simply don't. They need stuff like religious rituals, traditions, and holy days to remind them to be Godly. I argue that it is the same for doing what you love, nature walks, trying new things, etc.
Cheers, Jay
Posted by Jay Godse on 08/17/2009 at 01:00pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"I don't think you could convince a Brit" – I'm one and I'm not convinced. Is this a US vs rest of world type difference? That Americans tend not to travel for the sake of it, but you can meet tons of Brits, Europeans, Australians all backpacking through Asia, Africa and Latin America.
I loved my travelling experiences and met some truly interesting people; took trains through landscapes I'd never seen before (hard to compare India to Oxfordshire) and ate food I could barely recognise. I'm not sure if it's improved any skills, or made me a better person in any way, but it opened my eyes to realities that were only "concepts" before.
Someone said that a week on its own wasn't really enough, and I agree with that, too. To soak it all up and begin to feel more comfortable, a month + is probably better.
Posted by Clare on 08/17/2009 at 01:18pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Usually I find your blog interesting Penelope but every one of your arguments in this post are completely ridiculous.
"And you were in love with your boyfriend, and your job, and your new handstand in yoga. You love it all—imagine that. Would you want to leave all that behind for two weeks?"
Yeah. Find me one single person who is 100% content with every aspect of their life.
The hell with that. I'd rather backpack in Italy. Have fun taking a nature walk in your local forest preserve and blogging about how more enlightened you somehow are then the rest of us that enjoy leaving town once in a while.
Posted by Dartboard on 08/17/2009 at 01:20pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I can't decide which I like more: the post or the comments.
Seriously, some of the people responding here are absolutely hilarious. There's nothing more amusing than watching people act all affronted and defensive when they feel their way of life has been insulted …
I'm pretty sick of the way travel is spoken of as the ultimate experience. Of it being some kind of privileged, 1st-world orthodoxy — a truth universally acknowledged, that one in possession of a good fortune must be in want of a trip to blinkin' Thailand.
Tsk.
The way 'well-travelled' people call others narrow-minded when they explain their own reasons for preferring not to travel. Hahaha. I think I know who comes out looking more narrow-minded …
Great post.
Posted by Billicatons on 08/17/2009 at 01:22pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Freudian Slip? The article is by Sam Anderson, not beer-maker Sam Adams. (Nor is it by Portland mayor Sam Adams.)
Posted by Brian on 08/17/2009 at 01:28pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Oh. Thanks for that. I'm making the change. Maybe Sam will find consolation in the fact that I've quoted him three times in three months. So he is a regular here. Well, when his name is right…
Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on 08/17/2009 at 04:51pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
You bring up some interesting points… for example, that we should be striving to build the kind of life that doesn't require a break or vacation.
Unfortunately, actually achieving that kind of life is extremely difficult. Even if you DID have the perfect life, by chance, sometimes a change in routine and scenery will keep you fresh and (as someone already mentioned) appreciative of what you do have. If someone hasn't traveled as extensively in their life as you have (or perhaps if it just hasn't lost its luster for them the way it has for you), traveling is a really fun way to achieve that change in routine and scenery.
Also, good experiences make us happier than material purchases and at least in my life, the great travel experiences (limited though they are) stand out as some of the greater experiences of my life, ones that I am happy to remember.
Posted by Amy on 08/17/2009 at 01:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
With respect to climate change, air and noise pollution as well as land use and resource depletion I think it is not a bad idea to consider getting what we think we need to get through travelling, without travelling.
Other than that, after being an expat for many years, I feel entitled to say that there are cultural differences beyond the rich/poor or urban/country line (a poor American is still different from a poor German or Chinese or East-Indian, I would say), but it is not quite possible to find those differences out in a 2 week holiday. The key to this is language. It is kind of a prejudice that average Americans (and Germans as well for example) are not really so fond of learning and using other languages. This, however, means that they will perceive every country through the stencil of their own language and of course they see them as alike then, i.e. for an American economic differences level out everything else because basically there is no other criteria for "measuring life" anymore (bad one, I know).
Otherwise I think there is still a lot of truth in the post.
Posted by Juki Schor on 08/17/2009 at 01:44pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am sure you will find people who agree with this point of view.
But how come the people who like traveling the most are the most interesting and smart ones?
I don't know you, maybe you are interesting and smart. But your blog post bored the hell out of me.
Posted by Jeff Kurts on 08/17/2009 at 01:58pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Your comment, on the other hand, was really interesting and made you come across as very smart.
Posted by Billicatons on 08/17/2009 at 03:11pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I don't like traveling, either. I'm so glad I'm not the only person who didn't have their world turned upside down by other people and cultures in another part of the world.
We're the same, we're different — whatever. I like my life, and find enough to stimulate my mind and perspective on the world in books, new people to meet, and new things to try in my own city.
I don't hold anything against someone who feels the need to travel to broaden their horizons, so long as they don't return to criticize everything about their former lives and places of residence.
Traveling is an exercise of affluence, not a requirement for a life lived well.
Posted by Deanne on 08/17/2009 at 02:03pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Agreed.
And a pet peeve to make this comment more interesting: People who brag about all the great places they went and tell me that I *HAVE* to go there and see these things. It makes me gag.
Posted by Amanda on 08/17/2009 at 02:03pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
i absolutely hate traveling. when i worked in air force public affairs, i traveled ALL. THE. TIME. Pretty soon, you don't know where you are and yo don't care. all the more reason to live someplace you like or at least near people you love.
Posted by jenx67 on 08/17/2009 at 02:05pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I wholeheartedly disagree with you.
Traveling to your local park simply does not rejuvenate you with as completely as a real change of scenery does. You need a clean break every now and then to refresh, reinvigorate.
Posted by fern on 08/17/2009 at 02:10pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Jeez, Penelope. Fine, for some traveling is a waste of time. For others, going to work more than strictly necessary and having kids are wastes of time, but I don't see anyone throwing that in your face.
I've taken 5 international trips in the last 3 years and I learned valuable skills during them, not to mention seeing some amazing things (Masada, roman ruins in France, Versailles, the Berlin Philharmonic on fire).
It would be great if I loved my life too much to leave for 2 weeks, but you know what? After 6 months of being unable to find a job, a trip to Romania and France was a great escape from reality and a rare opportunity to see my grandmother.
Posted by Anca on 08/17/2009 at 02:25pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
70+ comments about world travel, and not one mention of carbon footprint?
Posted by Brad on 08/17/2009 at 02:30pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I have to agree with Penelope… travel seems like a great idea until I'm actually traveling, and then I'm just tired and in pain and wishing I was home sleeping in my own bed instead.
Posted by Jacqueline on 08/17/2009 at 02:47pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I agree with everything in the post. I take this from it:
Penelope is saying the TYPICAL reasons why most people want to travel abroad can be easily remedied at home. And it’s true. Most vacations are not relaxing getaways. If you hike, travel, and explore another country you’ll get home more tired than when you started.
That being said, I’m saving up to travel next year. I cherish my memories of living overseas, I remember every place I’ve traveled to fondly. I love to experience different cultures, to see new sights and sounds, and to capture all the same mundane things that show how humans are all culturally different yet fundamentally the same. I’m willing to pay for an experience, because it’s a worthwhile investment just like taking a paycut for a job that will give you more experience can be worth it for your career. I could spend $500 on an outfit and it’ll be worn out next year, I’ll be tired of it. But $500 on plane tickets is an experience I’ll never regret that will last a lifetime.
Posted by Van on 08/17/2009 at 02:58pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
The first time I visited San Francisco's Chinatown, I entered a restaurant at the suggestion of Fodor's. The food was OK, but it was nothing I couldn't order in Boston's Chinatown–but moreover, the patronage were all tourists who likely read similar recommendations.
A few days later, I returned to Chinatown but without a destination in mind other than to find a place to eat lunch. I wandered up streets, down alleyways, tried to find the real people, the neighborhood, and walked to wherever they walked to lunch. I found a place. A white guy, I was among the ethnic minority. The menu was in Cantonese, no English. The waiter spoke broken English. I pointed at menu pictures and used my hands to draw shapes. The food was delicious–but moreover, I felt like I was visiting San Francisco's Chinatown.
Sure, I could experience the same in Boston but that's not the point. Travel is about going to a new place. But if everyone does the same thing as you, it's not new and that's where your words are true. However, you're making blanket statements and that's why I disagree.
Posted by Ari Herzog on 08/17/2009 at 03:08pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I wasn't born into a wealthy family, but my parents did make sacrifices so that we could travel and experience not only different countries, but also other parts of our own country.
As an adult, I travel when I can. Here are 7 reasons why it isn't a waste of time, from my perspective (and for my career):
1) Planes can be great networking opportunities… if you're lucky
2) If you play tourist, guided tours, museums, etc – more great networking opportunities (landed a contract job in a pub while travelling once)
3) It opens your eyes to different ways of doing things, and innovative ways to tackle problems
4) It can be a great start to learning a new language – multilingualism is often a good way to stand out in your career
5) Being in a creative field, having to navigate a completely foreign city lets me exercise a different part of my brain and keep skills in tune that I don't get to use much in my current job (and may come in handy in a future position)
6) As an introvert, travelling forces me to interact with strangers – somehow, I feel less self-conscious when it's clear I'm a tourist (it's like a built in excuse), so it's an opportunity to increase my comfort levels for when I get back to the home stage
7) New stimulates new – When I'm experiencing something new, it seems to stimulate that part of my brain that produces new ideas. True, there are plenty of new things I can try at home, but nothing compares to being completely immersed in "new" – sights, sounds, tastes, smells that I've never experienced before, or even ones that I've only experienced once or twice in my life. Combined with the knowledge that I physically cannot retreat to my comfort zones, it's an eye and mind-opener like no other.
I don't disagree with this post overall – I'm sure many share your sentiments. However, for myself, I've always had a different perspective.
For the record, I love my life, love my home, love my job, love my boyfriend, love my cat, love my family, love my friends, love my city… I'm not a morning person, so I don't wake up bouncing out of bed, but I love coffee, so I do wake up happy :)
Posted by Erin on 08/17/2009 at 03:39pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I agree with this post, I have found myself thinking I would experience some deep revelations while travelling, while really my aim is to not get mugged, lost or sick.
The only addition I have is to mention the health risks associated with travelling, whether we realize it or not we take this risk on when we venture out.
Posted by Renee on 08/17/2009 at 03:40pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am really sorry that you were wealthy and worldly enough to travel internationally while growing up. I never even had the opportunity to eat in a restaurant until I was in my 20s. To me travel means the opportunity to see and try things that were never available during my formative years.
Posted by Curmudgeon on 08/17/2009 at 03:49pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hmm.
Get off the resort.
Posted by ioana on 08/17/2009 at 03:51pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
> How about setting aside time to think deeply every few
> days?
Why don't you try it, Penelope, and report back to us?
Posted by John on 08/17/2009 at 04:02pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, this is the best example yet of why you're so stupid and narrow, and think you're so clever and smart. I'm sure you think you have nothing new to learn from traveling. But you only learn as much as you're open to. Since traveling is about being open to other things and people and putting yourself and your own show on the back burner, it's not surprising you don't get it. Narcissists generally don't.
Posted by John on 08/17/2009 at 04:06pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I agree with this comment completely. Thanks John, you put it better than I ever could!
Posted by Jessica on 08/17/2009 at 04:54pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I just want to say that for me, I think traveling is the most useful and broadening experience a person can have in their lives. The most boring and narrow-minded people I have ever met are those that were born in one state and have never left, not even to travel to another state (for heaven's sake)! Traveling gets you to see how other people walk, talk, eat and live, and how that is different from what you are used to. It just isn't the same if you stay in your little known-world. Well-traveled people *tend* to be more likely to speak other languages, and have more tolerance for other countries and cultures. This is of course a generalization based on my own personal experiences with people.
Posted by Elizabeth on 08/17/2009 at 04:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
One of the stupidest posts you've ever written. It just makes you seem like the stereotypical American without a passport. Number 3 is my favourite in terms of ignorance. I travel BECAUSE I love my life- I like that I have a job that means I can afford to go overseas and that allows me to take time off for other things. I have risen in my field very quickly but I'm not as delusional as you appear to be in that I recognise there is more to life than work. Travelling also makes you appreciate what you have back at home. I'm Australian and I absolutely loved travelling around the States but it made me grateful for two things in particular.
a) That we have a universal health care system.
b) That our workers don't have to rely on tips to maintain a decent standard of living.
c) That we don't have the death penalty.
I think travel would also teach you how to better relate to people (and perhaps get rid of that all-encompassing sense of superiority you seem to have).
Posted by Jessica on 08/17/2009 at 04:45pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Another non-American with a similar thought to my own. As a Canadian reading this post, I was struck by how stereotypically American it is.
When I did a lot of traveling as a 20-something post-grad I was brought to tears by a couple of things: 1) how humbling it was to have my value system completely rocked when meeting people who had 'real' life struggles and 2)the sad state of many of the American travelers I encountered who approached new people and cultures with an arrogance that was nothing short of loathesome.
I know there are an abundance of American people who are worldly and empathetic, but with comments like this PT has effectively put herself in a small-minded category. I've lost a definite degree of respect with this one…
Posted by Kris on 08/20/2009 at 03:21pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
@Kris (from Canada): Although I don't agree entirely with the thrust of this post, I think that you may have missed one of its central tenants. As a fellow Canadian, I can say with confidence that you don't need to travel to be "completely rocked" by people's real life struggles. The challenges and conditions in many formerly resource-dependent small communities in Canada, to say nothing of the majority of First Nation communities, are enough to bring you to your knees. All the more so because a) this is so far from the experience of "countrymen" such as you and I, and b) because we are largely unaware of these realities within our own borders. The kind of economic and social disparity that is often so eye-opening in travel can be found at home too, and I think that this is an important point that PT states well above.
Hopefully this post will lead those of us who enjoy travel to reflect on why we do it, to be honest with ourselves about what we gain from it, and to work to integrate some of the benefits of travel into our daily lives. That's what I'll be taking away! That said, I don't think this post actually makes a persuasive argument that travel is a waste of time any more so than any other personal leisure activity (commenting on blogs, for instance).
Posted by EVN on 2009-08-31 10:18:52 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
enough of what i was thinking has been said especially the first comment about this blog's strategy and that's why this is the last post i read before hitting the unsubscribe button.
oh and americans need to see the world more not less. people do relate better when they begin talking.
Posted by hamish on 08/17/2009 at 05:17pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
My boyfriend and I are saving money (well, probably spending a bit too much, honestly – we can barely afford it) to take a week long trip to Seattle during the holidays. This will be the first vacation we've taken together (in 4 years as a couple) that doesn't involve visiting either of our families.
Travel is nice, if you can afford it. An earlier commenter mentioned taking 6 months off to travel to India. I'd like to know how many people that's actually feasible for?
So many places in the world that I'd like to see…but know that I most likely never will.
Posted by MeredithElaine on 08/17/2009 at 05:27pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Brad and Juki, you both mention the environmental impact of travel. When people speak of casually flitting off across the world, I cringe–this attitude that travelling is a right has created a carbon-belching culture that's contributed enormously to climate change (along with industry, of course).
Posted by pj on 08/17/2009 at 05:33pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Broadly I agree with you, Penelope. I've always had a love-hate relationship with travel. The reason why I've disliked it you hit on hard with #3: I'm mostly pretty happy with my life, and travel shakes up what I'm trying to make into an enjoyable day-to-day routine. But I still find travel often-enjoyable in spite of the annoyance, because travel is a great shared social experience with whomever I'm traveling with.
Of course, travel is also a traumatically expensive and inefficient way to simply socialize.
Posted by Nathaniel on 08/17/2009 at 05:48pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow. you just get better and better – and I loved your writing to begin with!
Posted by wendyrjr on 08/17/2009 at 05:51pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
#s 1 and 3 are not necessarily true, actually.
#4 is also not always true.
Allow me to explain.
I LOVE snowboarding. Snowboarding in Australia is increasingly expensive and marginal.
I can therefore effectively go overseas and spend less money (I am not joking) chasing the powder dragon in Canada and the US and NZ.
#3: I love my life, and adore travelling, but not for more than 2-3 weeks, depending on what I am doing. IF one of the things I love doing (surfing, snowboarding or cycling) is involved, and I have the net so I can keep my business stuff up to date, I can stay away. If not, all I want to do is get home. So, it depends on the travelling.
#4 Disagree entirely.
If you need to think, travelling intra or internationally, you can, for instance, go somewhere and unplug for a week, and surf, do yoga, whatever and just be, and think.
Cheers
Posted by Tim on 08/17/2009 at 05:57pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I do not enjoy travel. For me, it is usually more trouble than it is worth. It is like a wedding day – months of preparation for a fleeting moment of what should be bliss but often ends up being stressful anyway.
The upside of travel is that when travelling, you give yourself permission to do things you wouldn't normally do. You try new things. You shop for pleasure. You allow yourself to be in unfamiliar surroundings because it is only for a finite time. We can't do these things on a daily basis in our own cities because (a) we'd feel guilty at the expense of time and money, (b)we would be afraid of being judged (go to a nude beach on vacation – interesting, go to a nude beach every weekend – creepy), and(c)we don't have the discipline to take regular time for self.
Posted by Grace on 08/17/2009 at 05:58pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I read most of the comments down to Natalie, and I agree with her. You know what all this traveling has taught me? Family and friends are what's important. Not necessarily that they're all that matters, but that's pretty much the crux of why I love to travel. Sure, I like seeing beautiful places and meeting new people and hearing new perspectives and languages. But mostly I travel to visit friends. Of course, though, that begets more travel and work with international companies. Friends move, you go to new places.
Recently I spent 2 months visiting friends and volunteering my time at different projects going on in Tanzania, Morocco, and western Europe. Most of that I wouldn't have done if not for the friends I already had: open doors inviting me in. Definitely the best way to travel. Seeing the world through the eyes of locals and expats, without stepping foot into any hotel.
Posted by SaraH on 08/17/2009 at 06:44pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Good bye, Penelope.
Not so long ago, I loved your blog. In fact, it was you who got me started reading blogs. Before that, I really wasn't hip on the whole blog trend. So, I owe you many thanks. Indeed, thank you, many times over.
As for reading your blogs and posts, specifically, I am done. You've become increasingly egotistical and egocentric, rather than informative and enlightening. Maybe you're stuck in a rut. Maybe you, in fact, need a vacation!
Alas, farewell. I don't need to hear you proselytize about travel — much less that you tried to give yourself a Brazilian. You're officially no longer professional, much less a professional resource.
Adios!
P.S. I don't disagree with or discount your perspectives on travel, per se. I absolutely love to travel, but it is not and does not have to be in the absence of self-exploration or local exploration. You seem to often see things as black or white, when in fact they are quite grey. In that sense, you really have a way of twisting things… Or maybe you just can't express what you're really thinking, which makes you a poor writer.
Posted by Bill on 08/17/2009 at 08:05pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Well, if I had only been to the Caribbean and Europe, I would find travel pointless too. My guess is that by Caribbean you mean "island resort" and by Europe, you mean "Western Europe". Blech. That's not travel, just tourism, and Americans make the worst kind.
The funny thing about this piece is that all those things you suggest people do instead? Those who truly travel (by which I mean more than a week or so here or there) probably do those things too.
Posted by deepali on 08/17/2009 at 08:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"by Europe, you mean "Western Europe". Blech. That's not travel, just tourism, and Americans make the worst kind."
Wow, way to dismiss nationalities, people, and cultures of an entire region! And polls show that Americans aren't actually the worst kind of tourists. We're not the best (Japanese and British), but we are far from the worst–that would be the French, except for when it's Germans or Indians. However, we do dress badly.
And how's that for stereotyping and oversimplifying?
Posted by KateNonymous on 08/17/2009 at 10:19pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Deepali:
PT is 43 or so. When she was a child, Eastern Europe was not open to general tourism. She was also a young child which means she probably did not have enough context to appreciate The Last Supper or The Louvre. Her family, of her own description, has not been the kindest to her so it is hard to say she was enjoying herself in their company very much. An armchair psychologist may stretch and say that those travels have nasty associations in her head so she likes to say "all travel is bad". In the recent years, she has clearly not travelled. She has young children with special needs, a job, writing responsibilities etc so she may not be able to travel for some time. (All this by the way is public information about her, not rocket science).
That said, that generalisation about Americans is uncalled for. I would highly recommend searching "Indians rudest travellers" and look at the search results. If nothing, this post should be entertaining: http://bit.ly/1JrTpK
Why am I saying this to you? Well, because your name suggests to me that you are Indian (as am I). And I do think that seeing as we are the new pots, we can scarcely call kettles black, can we? (Yes, probably you and I are exceptions but so what? Does everyone who looks at us from a distance know or care?)
Thanks.
Posted by Shefaly on 08/18/2009 at 07:10am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This post is narrow minded and ignorant. I only just started reading your blog and I am not sure if I will continue. Travel opens up your mind to new cultures and experiences. It enriches the soul. You are no better than Sarah Palin who is so "worldly" because she can see Russia from her home. Honestly, I think it's Americans like you who give your country a bad name. No offense…
Posted by Tales From A Bar Stool on 08/17/2009 at 10:02pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I love to travel. Correction: I love to live for an extended period of time in different locations, countries, etc. I love it because it shakes me up, forces me to confront the world in a way I don't seem able to recreate once I'm "home" (where-ever that is these days). The learning curve is so steep that I get dizzy.
I learn a lot about myself and about other people when I take myself out of my comfort zone in this particular way. I think if more people did this, through travel, or whatever other method works for them, the world would be a better place.
However I accept Penelope's point that a lot of this could be found at home. I also agree that it's important to think about why you like travelling, and then try to apply this to your everyday life. Because this is the proof that you've really learnt something.
Of course the truth is, that's hard: it's easier to run away to a new place where no-one knows you or your background. It's easier to recreate yourself afresh than to tinker away on your day-to-day self. It's easier to be open-minded, interesting and interested when you're the new person in the room, instead of among people who've known you for longer than a year and have a fuller picture of who you really are. There's a lot you don't have to face when you're still in "early relationship" phase with your home, your job, your friends, your hobbies, your city or town, your country. I know, because I've been there many, many times.
I feel sorry for people who act like travelling is the be all and end all. Because while it can certainly be a very important learning process, it doesn't in itself make you a better person. It is simply a means to an end, and there are a lot of other ways to get to that same end. It doesn't matter where Penelope has or hasn't been to. What matters is she gets this.
Because if you don't understand this, travelling is a massive waste of time and money, just a self-indulgent exercise. (Some of the most well-travelled people I know fall into this category.) This is the point I take from Penelope's post, and I think it's a good one.
Posted by Sarah Dillon on 08/17/2009 at 10:36pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
The best part of travel is coming home (for me).
Posted by Maureen Sharib on 08/17/2009 at 10:56pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I was just thinking that – travelling, for me, is an amazing experience that allows me to at the very least see foreign architecture. At best, get to know people I never would have had the opportunity to meet, and do things I wouldn't otherwise do. It makes me appreciate what I have, not because other people are "worse off" or because of my "stuff," but because I know my life and what I've built and what I'm coming home to. Sometimes you need to step outside of it to keep from getting jaded and complacent.
Posted by Taylor on 08/21/2009 at 11:22pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Ok. I agree with you on all points, but none of them convince me that traveling is a waste of time. And more importantly I would like to add the value of quality time spent in another country/state/town has always given me perspective on #1 How similar people are all over the world. Our worries, or desires, or dreams…they are replicated in every culture. Spending 21 days in Brazil with my family, staying with another family was so brilliant. We realized how similar we are across cultures and reveled in it. #2 What the great things are about my community and new things that are great about other communities. I loved having neighbors drop by from miles around, without calling or scheduling, just to say hi and have a beer when I spent 2 months on a ranch in the desert with my kids.
What a great discussion!
Posted by AmyAnne on 08/17/2009 at 11:07pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hi Penelope,
While I appreciate some of your career advice, I have to say that not only is your post factually incorrect as well as lacking in logic:
–we can meet so many international people in big American cities because THEY, in fact, have travelled
–studies have been done that prove those who have lived abroad are more creative than those who have not
But what irks me the most is that it's a dangerous post.
Many Americans share your perspective, and the United States' lack of interest in the rest of the world and its stubborn unwillingness to look to other countries to share ideas and create ties is what is keeping us behind as a nation. It is extremely upsetting to me that you would write this not so much as an op-ed piece, but as an article, like it's the gospel. It's mentalities like this that prevent us from moving forward as individuals and as a nation.
Posted by Rio Gringa on 08/17/2009 at 11:27pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Well said…
Posted by Tales From A Bar Stool on 08/17/2009 at 11:34pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think your ire is misdirected, Rio Gringa, if I may be so bold. Surely the real issue is with the people who are so small-minded in the first place, that they might take a piece like this and use as it gospel or ammunition for their close-minded worldviews? I think Penelope is entitled to express her views (because that's all they are), without having to censor herself because her points might or might not be misused by a particular section of society.
The problem remains that people with insular mentalities are created and indeed fostered within American (and many other) societies. Drowning out a perfectly valid perspective just because some people might use it to further their own narrow-minded cause is surely more 'dangerous' than the fact that this opinion was expressed in the first place? I reckon that's what you need to be irked about, not PT's views.
Posted by Sarah Dillon on 08/18/2009 at 01:45am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Not at all, Sara. It's feeding narrow-minded people with ludicrous drivel like this that has resulted in things like the birther movement and angry mobs at health care town hall meetings. I'm all for expressing your opinion, but when it could be potentially harmful, that's when you need to step back and re-evaluate what your real intentions are. Here, it appears she wanted comments and controversy, but this is the kind of post that makes you lose readers.
Posted by Rio Gringa on 2009-08-18 15:25:23 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
I agree. Travel is more about taking a break from the daily routine – because the daily routine is so bad you need to take a break from it! Once a year is fine, but too much and you know your life isnt going great.
And the more I travel, the more I realise people all over the world are the same. Just the same. Only the economics differ, and the way to say thank you differs.
Posted by Dips on 08/18/2009 at 12:33am | permalink | Reply to this comment
A very interesting post, Penelope. I say interesting because you kind of screwed yourself over by writing THE POST and now every one of them will be compared to that one, which was truly great. So every other post kind of pales in comparison…:-)…Moving on…
1. I agree with your point #1. I think this is mostly because people have the wrong idea about what travel really is. They want to escape their reality, feel free, try new things. But why would you want to subject that to yourself only to go back to your reality? That is so unsatisfying.
2. I agree with your point #4. Travel is NOT the time to do deep thinking. Seriously, whenever one sets aside time to do deep thinking and maybe draw a flowchart of who they are, they always end up surfing the Internet or watching some stupid TV show on Hulu (okay, maybe I was projecting a little bit there). And whenever I travel, instead of doing deep thinking and writing in my journal, I invariably end up trying to find all the cute guys in sight and then flirt with any one of them.
So what is travel and is it really useless? For me, travel has never been about exploring a new country or resting. Or at least, resting has never been the goal. My friends ask me why I always max out my vacation either in Paris or Russia/Ukraine instead of exploring a new place (and then they tell me that I should go to somewhere in Europe or Hawaii or just explore a new place, to which I roll my eyes and tell them that the most fun that I ever have in my life, year after year, takes place in Ukraine, which I visit, year after year). And the reason is that travel is a way to experience a life that is also you, but that for some reason you are not able to experience every day.
Russia is me. I feel at home there, but due to circumstances, I grew up and work in the United States. But for three weeks a year, I get the chance to go back to my family, to my friends and to experience life and happiness and fulfillment and satisfaction in a completely different way, but in a completely native and soulful environment.
Same thing happens in Paris. I feel like I am one with that city when I am there and I truly love it.
So whenever I have some vacation time and my vacation fund is not completely dried up, I hurry to either Paris or Russia. Yes, I've been there a million times, but I feel so entirely fulfilled when I am there that I cannot think of any other place I would want to go. And I end up resting there emotionally.
And that is the true value of travel. To feel the place you are in, to be part of its daily life and to be happy just being part of it. And that kind of travel is truly a rest for the soul.
Finally, I am currently reading Eat, Pray, Love where the heroine does exactly this – she immerses herself into Italy, India and Indonesia several months at a time because she wants to not study those cultures, but to live and breathe them.
Posted by Irina I on 08/18/2009 at 01:05am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I couldn't agree more !
In fact, this summer I chose not to leave for vacation, which I used to do every summer. So far, this has been the richer summer in a long time, just discovering everything that's around where I live, and enjoying the long days with neighbors and local friends.
Posted by Marc on 08/18/2009 at 04:53am | permalink | Reply to this comment
mmmmmmm VERY interesting post brazen woman.
Isn't it strange how we call travel "escape", that all the marketing is geared towards "escape" "far away" and " a little bit of luxury". Now I am with you on the stay in your own life and enjoy waking up every day i really am. I love travel though and I love the fact that people everywhere are in some way always just like you and me. Same desires same maslowvian wants. The differences are what make us interested in the culture aren't they and we thrive on learning and new for the most part-tis how we evolve after all.
But interestingly as I am about to fly off to France for a week of restful retreat , yoga and no mobile I expect the escape, and i expect to meet some interesting folks and I expect to recharge and reconnect.
London is a funny place in august ( if you live here ) and whilst i love my life and can get in touch with it fairly readily, the energy in london is different in august. The tourists are here ( we love you and need you so keep coming), half the working population is on holiday and you can't really get work and social life on track in the same way as usual, it's a great time to be a tourist in your own city- or is it? because every time you are out in the throngs of tourists you berate yourself for not making the most of London when its quieter. I'm off travelling and I'm not running away. I'm having a mini escape to a different environment where I will think differently and refresh. When I get back I will continue to try new things, stay not run away, and think deeply. Enjoy.. Marie
Posted by marie Taylor on 08/18/2009 at 05:20am | permalink | Reply to this comment
To each his/her own really and this post is no different. I was born and raised on a small caribbean island and have lived in US and Europe and visited a few other places on this earth and from my experience even though economic situations might provide some similar experiences it is the cultural differences that are most abundant. I grew up in humble surroundings and even though I'm of East Indian descent I've met Indians who grew up under similar economic decisions yet we were very different based on cultural influences.
The world is a big place and there is so much to see and do and experience. History is alive around the world, try the none TV version of the world and you may actually like it.
Posted by shiroh on 08/18/2009 at 05:56am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Jeepers, Penelope! You sure seem to have pissed off a lot of people with this post. Personally, I find travel very refreshing. I come home with a different point of view – one that I would have never found by staying home. But, hey, that's just me. You are lucky that you got to travel extensively as a young person. For those of us who were not so lucky, some of us are just making up for lost time.
Posted by Kay Lorraine on 08/18/2009 at 06:30am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I disagree with most of your post, but I can say, I grew up in a small town north of Madison, Wisconsin and my first international experience was spending 3 months in London. I thought EVERYTHING was amazing…and I loved it and thought it was so diverse and filled with culture, etc etc. Then a few years later I moved to a big city in the United States and realized that much of what I loved about London, were the things that all big cities tended to have. Duh! So, why was I so in love with London or was it just the big city life? I went back twice since then and have discovered the little nuances and the little things that make London so great and why I love being there. It was a shift away from what I think was purely superficial or just someone who lived in a rural community discovering the perks of a big city ;)
Only 10% of college students travel or study abroad and I would imagine that many of their parents have similar mindsets to what you post in this blog and it seems in some ways that my original study abroad experience would reflect the same sentiment. But, I'd still encourage every single person I meet to do it and am astonished that that statistic is so low.
I know people who are over the age of 30 who have never been on a plane (and not because they are afraid to fly or can't afford to do so) or people who think Las Vegas is the cultural mecca of the United States. Why go to Paris when you can see the Eiffel Tower on the Vegas strip and get a free all you can eat buffet while you're at it? This is a mindset that irks me.
My dad just recently had his first experience travelling to Europe – something he never wanted to do but was part of a cultural goodwill trip for work with nuns who run schools and hospitals in Italy and Germany. He had a truly unique experience- one that most would never get on a two week vacation and met some truly wonderful and beautiful people who live very different lives from he and the other hospital administrators that he travelled with. Sure, he spoke on the phone with these women from time to time or saw pictures they'd send…but being there and meeting them and sharing a meal and having them show him "their Rome" is unique and something that he will carry with him always and something that helps continue their legacy for the work they have set out to do.
Posted by nellie on 08/18/2009 at 07:07am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Sorry P,
Unless you live near the beach there is always a reason to travel.
Posted by Rich on 08/18/2009 at 07:48am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, great item, with which I both agree and disagree.
I left my family to take a three-week motorcycle trip to Nova Scotia this summer, and here's the concluding item in a series I wrote about the trip:
http://tinyurl.com/oofmpf
Posted by David Murray on 08/18/2009 at 08:03am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Ah yeah, I gave you the wrong link, sorry.
http://tinyurl.com/n7yn2b
Posted by David Murray on 08/18/2009 at 08:56am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
As always, you have some good advise in your post. However, you really need to rethink your angle especially given the fact that many young people look to you for career advise. With the employment explosion in Asia and the shift from U.S. offshore contracts to permanent hires in Asia, you really need to get yourself out there. They are a different culture that is heavy in ritual and that ritual varies from place to place (Calcutta, Chennai, Tokyo, Yokohama, Singapore to name a few). The best employees in these cultures are looking for what they view as the best companies to work for. If you have little knowledge of their culture, you will be unable to create that work environment that they desire. Sure you will get hundreds of applicants but getting the best of the best requires a little work on your part. I'm afraid your Americanized next door neighbor from India is no substitute for understanding their culture. I can almost agree with you from the European perspective since they are a little more similar to U.S. culture.
Posted by Danny on 08/18/2009 at 09:14am | permalink | Reply to this comment
My what a JAP (Jewish American Princess)you are. I have had many dealings with your kind especially from New York.
JAPS are characterized with being quintessentially self centered.
You contradict the great American novelist, Mark Twain, when he said: Travel broadens a person. Of course that is only true if you can get past yourself and learn about other people and cultures and truly see and appreciate other environments. The irony of you being unhappy on a French farm and wanting to live with farmer does not escape me.
I loved being in Europe for two years. I was stationed in Germany, learned the language and immersed myself in German culture. I learned about them rather than trying to force myself on them so that they would understand me.
Your continued narcicissim has cost all of your male romantic involvements. While you are brilliant, you utterly lack critical introspection skills. It is about the almighty dollar and your need to prove yourself worthy.
Instead of being consumed with making a living, you need to be more concerned about making a life. Travel enriches that life. I have loved the travel that I have done and plan to do more.
Posted by southernwriter57 on 08/18/2009 at 09:33am | permalink | Reply to this comment
For crying out loud I don't think she's suggesting to never travel . . it's just a good argument for staying home and getting happy with you own life.
Posted by Anita on 08/18/2009 at 09:57am | permalink | Reply to this comment
And here I inferred from the descriptive phrase "A Waste of Time" that she was saying it was something that wasn't worth while.
Silly me.
Posted by Pen on 08/18/2009 at 05:27pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I agree that a lot of recreational travel is gratuitous and escapist. I am also aware that there is a dismal arrogance in many tourists, the kind who arrive in Germany or Belgium from the US or Canada and spend their holiday whinging that the Subway subs aren't what they should be. but sometimes the need to travel is genuine.
I grew up in England. When I was 18 I got a one month European rail pass. 21 years later I move to Belgium. I learned a lot about what Europe was, and what it is to be European, in that short trip.
In between back then and now, marriage took me to British Columbia. This was six years of total hell. There was nothing for me there. My career died. My hopes died. I need to live in a rich culture, and it wasn't to be found there. What made it a hundred times worse was that I knew that I would have to go several thousand kilometres to Mexico or Quebec to find anything significantly different. The only way I could have possibly made it work there would have been to find a way to spend several months of the year back in Europe, but by the time I realised this it was too late, my network in Europe had atrophied and the only thing to do was to go back and start again.
I do need to go to places that are different, this personal need is also a professional one, and Brussels makes it possible without getting on planes. Even Antwerp is different, and London, Cologne, Amsterdam and Paris are within two hours by train.
To be very blunt about it, a lot of North America is very bland. What is particularly frightening about this is that so many people in the United States do not know any different and judge the entire world on its capacity for vinyl siding and barbecues. These are the people who elect the most powerful and potentially dangerous government on Earth. So much as I deplore the damage done by gratuitous air travel, I have to say that these people need to get out more.
Posted by Robert P on 08/18/2009 at 10:05am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Give me a break, PT. Have you seen any of this in Wisconsin: an army of terracotta warriors unearthed in Xian China? prayer flags whipping in the wind in the mountains of Bhutan? ancient pictographs and cave-dwellings like those found in Canyon de Chelly?
You really scraped the bottom on this one.
Posted by Marlo on 08/18/2009 at 10:20am | permalink | Reply to this comment
You are obviously trying to start controversy…for so many reasons. But I'll bite anyway…when I saw the David it made me cry because it was the most beautiful man-made thing I'd ever seen in my life. The food in Italy truly, truly, truly compares to no other. (Although Paris does come close.) When I went to school for a semester in London did I mingle with "other cultures" – NO. But you know what – it was effing different than home and above all FUN! From one formerly rich girl to another (and BTW – I DO take the time to take a look around my local town on hikes and walks and concerts in the park and restaurants and museums AND love my boyfriend – who happens to be my husband and my kids and even my job) travel ROCKS!
Posted by Charlene on 08/18/2009 at 11:17am | permalink | Reply to this comment
What two percent do you find to agree with?
Posted by Jenna E. on 08/18/2009 at 03:04pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I've been to 112 countries and I have to disagree with 98% of what you wrote in this post.
That being said, I respect your opinion. Travel is not for everyone.
Posted by Nik Halik on 08/18/2009 at 11:21am | permalink | Reply to this comment
If only she had stated it as her opinion, applying to herself. But no, she made it a Universal decision. Applicable to everyone, presumably.
There are lots of things I consider a waste of time. For me. I generally don't pronounce that they are a waste of time for everyone.
Posted by Pen on 08/18/2009 at 05:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm ambivalent about the views expressed in this post.
I've traveled a fair amount and spent short times living in two other countries.
Travel is exhausting. The touristy version really doesn't get you nearly as much as going deep at home will. P's points on that front are well taken.
However, done on occasion to fill a desire for exhausting adventure seeing new sites, even this travel is fun for lots of people. I personally find it over-rated. You have to rest from your vacation and the occasion is not usually life-changing.
Much better is to go somewhere for a longer period of time, at least several months, to dive into the worldview, and experience the rhythms of life from a different standpoint. Especially if you are going there to serve (not condescendingly, but with open hands to receive as well), this is usually life-changing.
Can we get this at home? You bet. We can take a different spiritual stance, one of listening, attending to the reality of another person who is from a completely different background, diving into the community and culture of another "group" among us.
But most of us don't do this. There is something disarming, that makes us new and open and fresh, about traveling elsewhere to do this. Most of us require this "getting out of our own place" to experience this.
Truly, most of the benefit of travel can be had by a person who goes on a spiritual adventure, reading broadly, and truly "entering into" the lives of other people from various backgrounds, probably all within ten miles of their home.
If you have the ability, though, it can be quite fun to do this "in situ" in other, incredibly beautiful and fascinating places in the world. Just do it at a slow pace so you get the real benefit without the exhaustion.
Plus, it can be quite smart financially to be located elsewhere (or many "elsewheres" serially) — per the book by Tim Ferriss, whom P hates :-).
Posted by Sarah on 08/18/2009 at 11:24am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I suggest the show No Reservations with Anthony Bourdain. It really makes you feel like traveling. And not in a tourist-y way. At least it does for me.
Posted by JD on 08/18/2009 at 11:28am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Interesting post – it definitely gave me something to think about. Having thought about it…
… for the 7 or so years that my husband and I were saving for and then purchasing and renovating our first home, we completely took travel costing any money out of our budget. During that time we did make an effort to see the delights close to our (very metropolitan) home, hike in the nearby woods, taste food at local markets, etc. I would say we got really cosy with it. We occasionally travelled for work.
We kind of forgot that there was any point otherwise.
Then our budget eased up and recently we've started to travel again and oh MY had we forgotten the best parts. It's mostly the things you wouldn't see or experience at home… but that you can't conceptualize until you get there. And sharing those totally new, wild moments – crazy ones, like how to deal with gypsies in Rome – that add a lot to a relationship. Sometimes you just have to be there.
And no, that's not about "relaxation" or "thinking important thoughts" or "if only I were in a villa in Florence I would finish my novel." — all true. But it is about being somewhere.
Anyways… reading your post I am hoping you really are experiencing the pleasures of home and not just cutting out the pleasures of travel because you have to. I don't believe it's really a dichotomy like that, but that there are seasons for each (if one is fortunate).
Posted by Shandra on 08/18/2009 at 11:45am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
You make a good case for this, and I know lots of people who would prefer to stay at home than travel, but I must disagree. Full disclosure: I've worked for 15 years in a large financial services firm, where I've had to sell to and support clients in Europe, Asia, Canada and Australia.
For leisure, traveling does the following for us: (1) gets us away from gray, foggy San Francisco with its 58 deg ocean temps to somewhere sunny and warm, or to pretty winter mountain scenery and the challenges of ski slopes; (2) gives us a break of the everyday chores around the house/yard, as well as client deadlines & negotiation; (3) allows us to actually spend a block of time as a family without having work obligations/household chores get in the way; (4) enriches us by seeing a new culture in person, rather than reading about it or watching it on the Travel Channel.
For business, technology has made travel less necessary thru WebEx presentations/video conference calls, but provides following benefits: (1) Establishing face-to-face relationships, making friends (especially important to socially conservative cultures outside of US); (2) Getting better feel for cultural/language obstacles; (3) Providing on-site support in same time zone, without being woken up in the middle of night, or being on a conference call late in the evening; (4) competitive advantage, i.e. if you're not traveling, your competitor probably is.
Posted by Doug on 08/18/2009 at 12:05pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I don't agree with Penelope (I love traveling and always will!) but I think you get more out of learning a foreign language than traveling. I know that my experiences in Italy is completely different than most people because I can carry a conversation. I am by no means fluent but I can definitely get to know a person.
Also, I don't think we Americans get as much out of travel because our vacation time is too short. Two weeks is simply not enough. You often have to choose between a relaxing cruise/tourist resort or a more 'real' experience walking through a city or town. Most people pick the tourist resort or breeze through a European city (i.e. 2 days in rome, 1 day in paris et..) which is not enough to get to know a place or meet people.
Posted by wj on 08/18/2009 at 12:47pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Erm. I don't know. From reading this blog you had icky childhood stuff, so I'm sort of inclined to think maybe you weren't in the best frame of mind to enjoy your travels as a child. And I'm sort of inclined to think you are too broke and busy to get to go anywhere just for fun right now and so you want to harsh the mellow of those of us that do.
I just spent a full week on the beach in Destin Florida. If you want to think that wandering around a local park or doing yoga with your boyfriend at home is as good as a full week on a beautiful beach, keep telilng yourself that. The rest of us are going to enjoy ourselves.
Posted by Shaun Fisher on 08/18/2009 at 01:34pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Sounds like you need a vacation. How long has it been? The beauty of trips away – anywhere away but far is usually better- is that they reset your perception of your everyday life. Your state of mind may not change, but when your environment is shaken up you are forced out of a rut anyway. I recommend survival camping (where you hike not drive to the campsite).
Posted by Kathryn on 08/18/2009 at 01:59pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, I must say you have really become insufferably egotistical. Your closed-minded, self-congratulatory drivel that you get away with because you've supposedly founded all these successful companies that you've never deigned to name and which cannot be located now has worn thin. Face it, most of your resume is fiction–anyone who googles you for a while will find that out. Stop giving your opinions on things you know nothing about.
Posted by Jenna E. on 08/18/2009 at 03:04pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Ever notice how Penelope sours on everything she can no longer afford or achieve: a real career, living in New York, a husband, travel..? ;-)
Blogging! Greatest thing in the world, yep. Because it's the only thing you can do, Penelope.
Posted by Clarke on 08/18/2009 at 03:06pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Clarke: She can't blog either. She just baits people.
Posted by Chris on 08/18/2009 at 09:21pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
She is just an Internet troll. If everyone would ignore her, she might go away. We can only hope…
Posted by jim on 2009-08-20 21:43:04 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
I respect that you do not enjoy travel. I do love traveling. I love the planning aspect – it's so great to have something to look forward to. I love the packing – what to bring? I love the excitement of the airport. I love seeing a new destination and meeting the locals. If I wasn't a traveler I would have never tried some really great foods, or heard new music, or even learned how to do a new crochet stitch!
I love my home, I love my job, I love my husband – but that isn't always enough. I love traveling too.
Right now, with the recession, travel is off the table. I find that I really miss it.
I would like to respond to comment #3 – my parents retired and moved to their dream location. They love their house and their life and they do not travel in the summer at all. They chose to live where they do so they could have a great summer at home and still be close enough to an international airport so they can travel the rest of the year. When you enjoy something you make the time for it.
Posted by Kimberley on 08/18/2009 at 04:10pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
You have just explained why Americans are the least travelled, lowest passport holding,most navel gazing race in the Western world.
Posted by Lynda on 08/18/2009 at 08:06pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
There are plenty of Americans here disagreeing with Penelope; try keeping generalizations to a minimum.
Posted by Sara on 08/18/2009 at 08:08pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Touché!
Posted by Jun on 08/19/2009 at 11:44pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
@Sara
And thank goodness there are so many people disagreeing because there are a fair number who seem to see her point – which is scary considering the power America as a whole wields in the world.
Posted by Lynda on 08/18/2009 at 08:25pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Despite being an incorrigible travel fiend, the funny thing is I agree with a lot of this. Thanks for writing it. A lot of people do simply need to break out of their routine, head for the nearby park they've never visited, or go to the ethnic area of town and try some new food. But if you love travel you will leave your old life, no matter how happy you are because exploring new things, pushing yourself our of your comfort zone, exposing yourself to new languages and having your prejudices overturned is what you love best. And after travelling it feels great to be home again:)
Posted by Annabel Candy on 08/18/2009 at 08:39pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Either you are an idiot — or you just like posting things that make no sense.
Travel is THE MOST productive and mind opening thing you can do.
Posted by Chris on 08/18/2009 at 09:20pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
My initial thoughts regarding your post:
It feels a bit like you are justifying your dislike of travel. And if the reasons you cited for not traveling are the reasons you think people (you) are supposed to travel then no wonder you don't like it.
I think you've hit on 4 good concepts that should NOT be one's reasons for traveling.
1) Someone else suggested you are speaking about utility here, not literally that Wisconsin = Africa. I assume so. Don't travel to "integrate new things into your life" for only two weeks. Do that at home.
2) Absolutely agree regarding economic differences. But I don't suggest traveling in the pursuit of having some epiphany through a conversation with a Parisian.
3) The assumption here is that you aren't happy with your day to day life and need to get away from it all. I feel sorry for you (I'm not speaking to Penelope here) if that's why you travel, living for those two weeks on a beach at a resort. At the same time if someone said to me "I love my life here and don't need to leave (town/region)," red flags would wave warning me that I'm speaking with a person who has no intellectual interest in what the world has to offer. I have trouble reconciling a high level of worldliness and intellectual curiosity with a lack of interest in travel. But I assume Penelope is just such a person.
4) Again, I agree. Do that at home.
Your conclusion suggests to me that you see travel in a way that makes it a miserable experience. You see it as "running away," it's meant to integrate new and deeper meaning into your life, you're meant to accomplish something through travel, etc. As I said, these are not reasons to travel. Traveling in the pursuit of something life altering and full of meaning is most likely to leave you disappointed and exhausted.
From the short time I've been reading this blog I get the impression that Penelope's seemingly workaholic, type-a personality goes with her while traveling and the combo doesn't mix.
That doesn't mean that there aren't reasons TO travel.
Posted by Jason on 08/18/2009 at 09:42pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
A friend of mine says he doesn't like to travel because he doesn't like seeing whole cities full of other people getting along perfectly well without him.
Posted by David Murray on 08/18/2009 at 10:18pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
If I have loads of cash, why wouldn't I travel? And if I am tight on cash, how can I travel? You mentioned that wealth matters more than culture, but only a person who is wealthy and has traveled would say something like that.
Every person has multiple identities: religion, gender, race, sexual orientation, and socioeconomic status. Culture is just another dimension, another perspective on life, how can you say only money matters?
Posted by NYC Memories on 08/18/2009 at 10:52pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
How I love your unique view of things. You are such a breath of fresh air. I've traveled a little and it failed to have much of an impact on my life–this always made me feel like I may have missed the point. I'm sick of listening to the reverential talk about how we need to/must/should travel the globe.
Thank you for sharing your views.
Posted by Veronica on 08/18/2009 at 10:55pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Yes to everything you said Veronica
Posted by Heather on 08/22/2009 at 10:18pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Being an avid traveller, I can see a little bit of truth in 1,3,4, even if I don't like to admit it. But 2. Oh my, I disagree! Culture is not just about race, ethnicity or social status.
What about looking, tasting, sensing, smelling. History, religion, art, landscaping, fashion, food, health, beliefs.
If you appreciate culture fx. in the shape of architectural diversity, you have to get out of the US once in a while. And that is just one example.
Wanting to live an aesthetic, sensual and open-minded life, means travelling to me.
Posted by Betsey on 08/19/2009 at 01:57am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I used to share a similar point of view. I would joke and say there is no reason to leave the USA. We have everything here.
Leaning Towers – Niles, IL – near a car dealership
Alps – Rockies
Beaches – Hawaii and FL
Cities – NYC, Chicago, LA
Slums – any major city
Old buildings – East coast is full of buildings George Washington slept in. Indian mounds.
But having now traveled quite a bit as an adult, I think traveling internationally does make one a more well rounded person. No one can really understand what an economic might China is becoming without seeing the growth yourself. If one wants to understand what it is like to live in a country that is growing, visit a city in China. There are buildings and roads being built everywhere. Everyone you meet is looking to do business and make money. No one ever talks politics.
Or to better understand what an impact WWII had on Europe, you must go and see how the fighting was literally in every little town and hamlet. There are buildings today in Europe that still have bullet holes from WWII.
It also is useful for networking. I met a plant manager of an auto manufacturing plant in China 5 years ago. He was a westerner who told me in our conversation that GM would file bankruptcy in 5 years. He was right on. I have also met Victoria Secret bra designers (not as exciting as one would imagine) and Swedish industrial engineers (designed lamps, a more exciting profession than you would imagine). All of these people I added to my rolodex and keep in touch with.
I think living a life on the road like you do between business and speaking engagements can wear you down. But I suspect that after you have been home for a few weeks or months, you start to get the urge to travel and need a change of scenery. I know I do. I love living in my small midwestern town. But I do enjoy getting out and experiencing the world.
First time poster, long time lurker. Keep up the good work. I enjoy your writing.
Posted by JP on 08/19/2009 at 09:51am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I can't say I'm much for travel, because I hate sight-seeing. We do go "up north" just about every weekend, though, and I enjoy that because my family hangs out and cooks and makes campfires. So that's not really travel.
I think "traveling" and "getting away" are two different things.
Posted by www.GenerationXpert.com on 08/19/2009 at 10:51am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I agree it's important for all of us to think about the goals we have for travel. This post gives 4 reasons for why travel may be a waste of time and many of the comments give many reasons why it may not be. This controversial post in blog format demonstrates how much more valuable this post is for the comments it generated than the one-sided print broadcast format.
Even though you are growing sour on travel at this time and have always disliked it, I think you could just as easily have written a post on the benefits of travel. I can understand your perspective on travel based on your experiences with it. I wouldn't dismiss it as a waste of time, however, since it appears to me you have done it for the most part not on your own terms – destination, itinerary, the people you do it with, etc. Also the places to which you have traveled have changed and you have changed. Your points are well taken (disciplined schedule, meditation, exploration of local areas of interest, etc.) and for me serve as an adjunct to travel. I'm hoping you'll post about the benefits of travel in the future. There's certainly enough fodder here in the comments to do so.
Posted by Mark W. on 08/19/2009 at 11:01am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I do wonder, though – how much do people really "grow" when they travel? I've seen plenty of people come back from 12-month $25K trips around the world whose only growth was their weight.
I have to admit, someone who is interested in their own personal development will grow, travel or not. And someone whose only motivation to visit Europe is for beerfests and hot women won't see much difference staying in their hometown.
Posted by Mike on 08/19/2009 at 11:53am | permalink | Reply to this comment
So obviously it depends on the PERSON not the act of travel itself. My, what a shock.
Posted by Lara Camozzo on 08/19/2009 at 04:13pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Maybe the farmer wrote the post?
Posted by iyh on 08/19/2009 at 02:03pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
How shockingly small minded. You seem to think that people are all the same, grouped only by how much money they earn; whether they are rich or poor. I can only assume that you've undertaken some kind of mammoth, global research project to draw these atounding conclusions.
Believe it or not, some people genuinely have an interest in seeing how other people live in different countries and finding out for themselves what the differences or similarities are.
How much each person gets out travelling depends on them, it's not for everyone. I like meeting people with completely different views from me whether it's at home or abroad as this helps me to grow.
If you only interact with people like yourself you'll never have any of your views challenged, never be exposed to different ways of thinkging. Some people like that, others don't.
People travel for different reasons. I like the variety, no matter how much I love my life I get a huge amount out of experiencing different place and different cultures. Not everyone does, but they tend to be the people who start complaints with "in my country…" and they propbably should have stayed there.
Going away can sometimes make you appreciate how lucky you are. And I'm (usually) always glad to get home to everything I love, which to me is the perfect way to end a lovely trip.
Posted by Lou on 08/19/2009 at 02:38pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Lady, are you completely insane? The "logic" behind your post makes me sick. I can't even wrap my head around what you've said. As a grown adult woman, I would expect… I don't know, something more. Here I am, 22 years old having just set out in the world on my own personal journey (of travel, life, good food and wine, culture, languages, and art!), and you're throwing dog shit all over it.
justapinchofsalt.com
Posted by Lara Camozzo on 08/19/2009 at 04:11pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
In re #2, you also don't learn a thing about a culture in one week. We bought a place in Germany and you have to spend at least three months in a place to truly get a feeling for it and the people.
Plus, most people are simply hitting the tourist spots. It's off the beaten track that you really get to taste and relish anything remotely close to authentic.
Posted by Danielle on 08/19/2009 at 05:01pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I certainly understand not wanting to travel when it comes to business travel. It all looked glamorous at one time, living on an expense account, etc. But for a stretch before my oldest son was born, I traveled three weeks out of four, and it got old pretty fast (and I always lost money because I'd forget or lose receipts for expenses that should have been reimbursed). These days, when it comes to business travel, I prefer to connect, when possible, by video conference. I use Skype when my kids talk to their grandmother, and Avistar when I talk to my remote team members and my clients.
Posted by Norman, Boston on 08/19/2009 at 05:26pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
>I'm growing sour on travel
Isn't it a tiny bit stupid to make judgments on such broader generalities? Think about:
travel on business vs pleasure
abroad vs next town
long vs short
There absolutely nothing in common between travel on business for a day across 400 miles and a two-week trip to a tropical island… Still, both are "travel."
A good criteria to check whether your statement makes sense is to try the opposite. So, even if you say "I like travel," you likely woundn't enjoy a cost-to-cost day trip on business with 9 hours of meetings? Likely not.
Posted by Anton Chuvakin on 08/19/2009 at 05:37pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
As always, you can't simply state your personal dislike for something, in this case travel. You have to turn it into a diatribe against travel, with deeply flawed reasons.
First, how sad that you didn't enjoy yourself. Maybe you didn't try to hard. Travel IS about being open to others…not focusing on yourself, which of course is always your primary thing in whatever you do.
The many people I know, myself included, travel for many reasons (curiosity; passionate interest in people, places and culture; to just explore and learn something new; etc.)
They've had some fun times, some scary times, and some times when they looked around and said: Oh, boy. What were we thinking. But for the most part, they have incredible memories that cannot be duplicated by anything else. (You can read about a place and no matter how great the writer, it will never be the same as BEING THERE.)
Of the people I know who do travel regularly, ironically, they are the most content with their everyday lives. They don't travel to GET AWAY from anyone or anything. They travel to MOVE TOWARDS something, whether it's a culture, people, etc. They travel to reach out, to explore and to be open and receptive to what is out there.
That distinguishes them from those who just get on a plane and change geographic location. Those folks are not travelers. You have to be an active participant and not some passive tour-group follower.
Travel is, of course, only as good as you make it. Many people leave a place and no matter where they go, try to duplicate their life at home. Real travel is about opening up yourself to different places, people, etc. Not to just be yourself in another physical location. I cannot begin to describe what I learned about others, as well as myself, without trying to be "deep" or analytical.
For once, I'm glad to see people speaking up on what you wrote (I do so tire of your "followers" who seem to blindly echo or agree with what you write, with not a bit of critical thinking.)
But, again, I think you write to rile people up, again, cause you just love the attention.
Posted by stella on 08/19/2009 at 05:47pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
What kind of narrow mind thinks travel is a waste of time? Sorry, I disagreed with everything stated in this particular post. (Which is not to say I disagree with every PT post.)
Posted by Jun on 08/19/2009 at 11:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I enjoy travel but I don't passionately chase it like so many of my classmates at Harvard do. After living abroad twice, I appreciate discovering novelty here in the States more than I enjoy traveling. After my internship ended, I used my three weeks of vacation to stay in LA and rest, write, think, and meet up with friends. Every day I feel closer to having that life PT described–the one where you are doing everything you love to do. And she's right! I don't want to leave it! In fact, I'm going to Napa this weekend, and I find myself wondering why I can't just create my own wine-tasting adventure here in LA with a group of friends. Long live the staycation!
Posted by Kaneisha | The Dream Catcher: Advice for Crazy Girls and the People Who Love Us on 08/20/2009 at 12:54am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Travel today due to terrorism, the recurrence of piracy and the necessary evil of harsh security measures has reduced the romance factor of travel to almost zero.
Furthermore, travel with or simply on the same plane etc as small children (and some adults) can be unpleasant sometimes.
All this being said the feeling of awe and wonder at experiencing the beauty that new locales have to offer and the memories it provides.
I still feel the excitement of traveling to see the Western Wall in Jerusalem, visiting foreign museums and breweries, looking off the Empire State Building on my honeymoon and joking with the guide that the really big monkey seemed to have gone missing.
Each person defines their own area of pleasure and wonder but the digital age seems to have taken us one step nearer to not wanting to leave "the Matrix".
Posted by Jonathan on 08/20/2009 at 05:51am | permalink | Reply to this comment
For a person who does a lot of travelling to say it can be a waste of time is similar to someone having daily sex implicating to someone not receiving daily sex it is not a big deal. To the person who doesn't get to travel or is not having sex it is a big deal. I presume the point was don't look to travel to accomplish the specific items you mentioned with certainty. Personally I like to travel but I am not doing it as an educational exercise or to acquire new perspective but to enjoy visiting other places and people.
Posted by Don B. on 08/20/2009 at 09:28am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hey Penelope
Your insightful comment is so necessary! I agree with your position. I have lived on three continents, and the primary difference is economic differences. Experiencing economic differences however, makes a great deal of difference to most people. I think there is a value in experiencing economic differences. Most of us have a hard time imagining anything other than what we live with, until we see people who live differently.
Unfortunately, few people get the experience of living under different economic limitations while traveling. Indian beggars are just like American panhandlers until you go beyond the Slumdog Millionaire paradigm and look at how real Indians live. Many of the U.S. family vacation trips digs down to how the locals actually lives. It is middle class living on a hotel somewhere else.
I do believe those trips do have a value though, and it is not about what you experience from other cultures, it is about creating common experiences with your own family. Most families have good sides and bad sides, and creating opportunities for positive common experiences ties a family together in a good way.
Keep up the good writing lady! You are one of my favorite writers and I get positive feedback from most of the people I share your writing with. You provide us all with chutzpah and inspiration!
Posted by Lene Johansen on 08/20/2009 at 01:41pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope writes on how traveling is a waste of time, yet she tweets about traveling to DC to meet with a couple of angel investors. Doesn't this whole situation just drip with irony?
Posted by jrandom42 on 08/20/2009 at 02:01pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Haha, PT – I never thought I would say this (really, never) but you missed the boat entirely on this one.
I think it would have been better to say
4 Reasons Vacationing is a Waste of Time
I agree with point #1 that it's low risk to try something for a week. That's a vacation, and not really TRAVEL to connect with anything in particular. I lived on a desert island off the coast of FLA for a month (part of a 6 week trip) to test my limits. And it wasn't very low risk and boy did I learn lots of new things.
I agree with point #2 if you vacation to other places. If you actually have to submerge into the culture (the first time I had to go grocery shopping in China I almost passed out from the stress of figuring out what to get to put together a meal I could eat) I had plenty of money to spend at the store and it was a very nice store, I was just in culture shock.
LOL on point #3 – PT, I love you because you hate life so much and I read your blog to wince at the angst. So I guess I'll have to counter you one with – miserable people with kids and jobs they hate don't leave either- (ergo they can never travel, only vacation). I think both have nothing to do with travel. I think we need to apply point two to this theory. State of mind doesn't matter. Economics do.
Point #4 – There is a Daoist theory associated with changing your placement in the universe changes your brain or something to that effect. I think the -culture shock- of fundamentally changing your location and removing yourself from the daily grind of life, money, text messages etc is a huge opportunity for deep thinking. I changed the course of my life after a 10 day solo hiking trip through Arizona because I had so much quiet time to think. Of course, I rarely have the -vacation- mindset so you'll never find a blackberry with me or screaming kids and Disneyland.
So in summary, herewith find my vote to change the title to something accurate like, vacationing is a waste of time. I do realize that you are not running a democracy at Brazen Careerist so thank you for at least providing the forum for me to express my opinion. :)
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Posted by Amy on 08/20/2009 at 02:45pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I have been lurking for a month or two and I was hoping Penelope would be a good source for inspiring, helpful blurbs on career, work/life balance, etc. What I have learned is that she has a decent writing style but has no real substance. She grew up in a wealthy family and has never had to take a traditional job in her life. She claims to know how it is to be "living almost in poverty" at $200K a year (who cares if it was NYC). When she goes on food stamps or has to bunk down with relatives/friends because she lost her home and can't even afford rent then tell me she knows anything close to poverty. She has had the privilage of not only travelling (or vacationing) in places where many people will only ever wish to go but to live in a foreign country too. Wow, how tough for you. I know she says her family was abusive and I have no reason not to believe her and that is awful. Nobody should have to put up with that. But the bottom line is she seems like nothing more than a privilaged, self-absorbed, princess who wants nothing more than to be whorshipped by the younger generation as some wise sage of start-up, do-nothing productive with your life if you can avoid it nonsense.
Posted by Liddy on 08/20/2009 at 03:33pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Tsk Tsk … Penelope, Are you becoming parochial towards your Madison home base? To quote St. Augustine: "The world is a book and those that do not travel read only one page."
Posted by Mike on 08/20/2009 at 05:10pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
You know, I haven't visited this blog for months. Don't think I'll be back soon. I've traveled around the world for business and pleasure and have indeed learned a lot in the process. If you have your eyes and mind open, you will too.
It's flat out ridiculous to make a blanket statement that aligns love of travel with unhappiness on the home front. Good grief, Penelope, does your blog now only seek to ignite controversy? Oh sad.
Posted by Ardith on 08/20/2009 at 06:23pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hey, there's hope for Penelope: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_jayson_blair
Posted by John on 08/20/2009 at 06:44pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I actually tend to agree with Penelope's sentiments on this one, though I don't presume to believe they apply universally. (What does apply universally, really? The need to breathe?) I have traveled some, and enjoyed it, and I look forward to doing more in the future, but I don't think that travel necessarily makes one a deeper, or more fulfilled, person.
My parents have never left the country. My mother has never left the east coast. Quite simply, they cannot afford to travel. However, my mother is also one of the strongest, most compassionate, most stead-fast, enduring and optimistic people in this world. She didn't need "fresh perspective" or "to get away" or "cultural exploration" to become these things. She has deliberately cultivated her character, rather than depending on life experiences to shape it.
To imply that a person is missing out on some critical element of personal growth because, for whatever reason, they have not traveled is nothing more than narrow-minded, privileged egotism. More than a little hypocritical, don't you think?
Posted by Jean on 08/21/2009 at 09:27am | permalink | Reply to this comment
OMG – THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!
People who love their lives don't leave
I – like you – traveled extensively with my family of origin. Now that I'm a grown up with a family of my own – we aren't big "travel bugs" and quite honestly, I am CONSTANTLY catching flak about it from both my parents and my in-laws.
Thanks for the ammunition. I plan on using that line A LOT in the future.
Posted by Kathy | Virtual Impax on 08/21/2009 at 09:37am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm surprised at the vitriol in some of these posts. Why can't people disagree without making it a personal attack?
Posted by Norman on 08/21/2009 at 09:43am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Whether or not I agree with your blogs, PT, I do **soooo** enjoy reading them and all the comments they generate.
Also wondering, since you've said before that you think you may be an Aspie (i.e. have Asperger's), I'd like to see you write something related to AS and careers (as I recall, someone else asked for an AS blog long ago). Thanks!
Posted by Annette on 08/21/2009 at 04:14pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
George W. Bush agrees with you.
Posted by Happy Guy on 08/21/2009 at 10:54pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Come on traveling is fun, sure there are other experiences to be had but seeing or doing something first hand is an experience in itself. Finding the time is of course the bigger problem.
Posted by Adirec Torytski on 08/22/2009 at 02:56am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I usually agree with or appreciate a lot what you write in your posts. This is an exception. I couldn't disagree with you more. I would never have pegged you as someone who'd turn your back on first-hand learning.
Posted by MDTaz on 08/22/2009 at 10:34am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Well, if Annette is correct in saying you think you might be an Aspie (Asperger's), then you are probably someone who thrives on structure and routine in your life… and traveling takes you out of your comfort zone to the unknown. (The Asperger syndrome children I've worked with over the years do not do well with change. They thrive on routine, and some things that would bore others to tears, they enjoy.) But that's OK… to each his own.
You also had a bad experience traveling as a child. My kids traveled the world when they were young and loved it. They were and still are adventurous, flexible, and curious. No doubt your negative experience has impacted your world-view about the value of traveling.
We can love our life AND still love traveling. People who loves their lives DO leave, PT. The world is not so black and white, not so structured as you would like/need it to be.
Posted by Analise on 08/22/2009 at 01:33pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
No, it means that people who have the means and choose to learn about other people and other cultures are more broad-minded, empathetic, and intellectually curious.
BTW – when I was 24, I saved up a very small sum of money (enough for a one-way ticket to London)and then spent the next 2 years living and working throughout Europe and the Middle East. I had no means except what I was willing to do to put a roof over my head and food in my mouth.
Unlike P whose parents gave her the opportunities of a lifetime which she then chose to squander, my parents gave me nothing. I did it all on my own.
Posted by pip on 08/23/2009 at 11:08am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hey, if people who travel are more intelligent and open-minded than people who don't travel, does this make people in poorer countries (who can't afford to travel) narrow-minded idiots?
Posted by Mike on 08/23/2009 at 10:17am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Yep, no matter where you go, you're always there.
(But now I think that's a good thing.)
Posted by Retired Syd on 08/23/2009 at 10:46am | permalink | Reply to this comment
If P actually means what she says (which I doubt- comment bait more likely) then she epitomizes what is wrong with this country, i.e., ignorant, shallow, self-aggrandizing fools who prefer to live in their own narrow bubble instead of dealing with reality.
I traveled all over the world (by myself)and I can tell you it was the greatest experience of my life. I highly recommend it to the rest of the self-righteous idiots in this country who think civilization starts and stops within U.S. borders.
The minute I stepped out of the plane into Heathrow, I realized I left a very isolated island and had entered the real world.
If in fact P really believes what she wrote, I suggest she pack up and move to Alaska, where she could commune forever with people who think just like she does.
Posted by pip on 08/23/2009 at 11:03am | permalink | Reply to this comment
P-
I hate it for you that people are vehemently opposing this particular post — some even saying goodbye to your blog! Sure I diasagree with your thoughts, too. However, I am proud that these people are passionate enough about what they love to continue posting their disagreements, even the 220th commentator saying the same thing – just so they feel that their voice has been heard. While I hope you are happy in remaining in one place for a time, I hope you do get the travel bug again sometime in your life.
Posted by Maggie on 08/23/2009 at 11:24am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think I might be confused by your post. I generally figure that a person can't dispute data, and you provided data (or supporting facts) for your argument. Still, I disagree with #2. Personally, I hate traveling for a weekend get away. It's more work than getting away. However, I love going places for a decent amount of time, maybe 3 weeks, and learning to live like locals. I've not done it a lot, but I've done it enough to see a difference. Life in big city Paris was still different than life in big city USA. The groceries are different. Salad dressing is a singular condiment that doesn't come in flavors. Store are only open late once a week. They don't have grocery bags. They don't have grass, but they have beautiful gardens. Amsterdam was different too. The bikes have their own highway system. Whatever that was, it was not American, so I'm not sure I get your point #2.
I will say that I took my husband to Paris to show him the singular bottle of salad dressing, and he was not interested. He was also not fascinated by the assortment of mustard, the lack of American mustard, and the extreme use of neon in television commercials. Maybe I'm just into different things than you or most people for that matter. In that dozen times I've been to Paris, I am still yet to see the Mona Lisa or go up the Eiffel Tower. It doesn't interest me.
Posted by Jac on 08/24/2009 at 11:45am | permalink | Reply to this comment
As a child of the Cold War, I "knew" that the Commies were bad guys. Then I went to live in West Berlin and actually got to travel into East Germany. That's how I came to understand in a very real and visceral way what life was like in the "Worker's Paradise". It was the kind of understanding you just don't get out of pictures or books or by living in Madison, WI.
Posted by Dave on 08/24/2009 at 11:52am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
A couple of things:
(1) You are right only if you meant to say that going on a 1 or 2 week trip somewhere, however exotic, won't change your life. For most people, it won't. It can be a nice diversion, going somewhere, seeing some sites. But most return little changed–maybe a bit tanner, with some snapshots and cheezy gifts they could have purchased at home. I do like to travel, even if it is like this, but you don't learn much this way, I agree.
(2) BUT if we are talking about travel that isn't pure tourism, if we are talking about living or working somewhere else for longer periods of time, then your post is just wrong.
I am kind of surprised that you seem to think (you don't say outright, but your post strongly suggests) that there is nothing to be gained by living or working in another country for longer periods of time. I am surprised because your blog is about culture–mainly business & generational culture, but culture nonetheless. For someone who spends so much time analyzing the _cultural_ differences between generations, sometimes between groups who may be separated by only a couple of years (for example, your posts about what Gen Xers would do versus Yers, etc.), how does it make sense to simply dismiss out of hand international cultural differences?
That is, I am challenging you on your own terms: If you think there are important differences between a baby boomer, a Gen X-er and a Gen Y-er, ones worth writing about (and you must or you wouldn't have a blog about such differences), how can you say with a straight face that "cultural differences are superficial?" Do you really mean to say that there are no signficant differences (worth recognizing and learning) between an American and a German, a Korean and a Nigerian, an Argentine and a Russian–even if all of them are rich (and obviously not all of them are white)?
I can't second guess–I don't know you and I don't know the people you're comparing yourself with–but I am guessing that you probably underestimate (i.e., are unaware of) the major differences between yourself and your rich/white/Jewish South African roommate, or between yourself and the Lyonnais city-mouse cousins of the country-mouse French farmers you stayed with.
(3) You are right to say that a rich white person may have little in common with a poor white person, BUT why do you dismiss out of hand the differences between a rich white person and a rich black person (FYI, I am not black or white). If had any rich black friends (and I am sure you do), you would know that whether or not they are rich, their lives are different in important ways than yours. If you don't know why, you might ask them.
(4) You are of course right that you don't have to leave the US to learn about cultures different from your own–you can seek out people who are different from you in your own city (almost where ever you lived). But this does not mean that every different kind of culture is at your disposal if you stay in the same place in the US. On this point, I hope that you would grapple with Gary Arndt's comment–Japan is as rich as the US but is nothing like the US.
(5) Do you speak other languages? I assume that you do if you spent time in France that you speak some French. If you really get to speak another language, I think it because even clearer that people in different places are not the same. And even people who speak the same language–Canadians and Aussies and English are culturally quite different from us Americans. OK,
(6) Lastly, Penelope, I like your blog even if I don't agree with many of the posts. You raise interesting and important issues. But I really think this would be a richer blog if you were more active in the comments section and addressed the serious and thoughtful questions or criticisms raised by other people.
I kind of think it is not fair of you to raise a controversial topic and then let people rant, meanwhile responding selectively to only a handful of non-substantive comments, such as when you accidentally misidentify someone in your post or have a typo. Now, I realize you're busy and don't have all the time in the world, but if you are going to respond to a handful of comments anyway (as I see you do with most posts), wouldn't that time be better spent trying to seriously engage the more interesting points raises that disagree with your posts?
I really think your readers would be interested to see what you had to say about some of the better points raised by commenters.
PS. As I do read the comments sometimes, I hope you ignore all of the abusive and angry comments you seem to receive. Seems to come with the territory, but I am sorry you have to read some of the shit that appears here.
PPS. I agree with your point that people who actually write don't have time to spellcheck everything. So preemptive apologies for any typos I missed.
Posted by Larry on 08/24/2009 at 04:59pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
While you make some good points, it is obvious that you have never experienced the transformative power of travel. Penelope, it appears you were priviledged enough to travel from a young age. Most Americans dont' have that priviledge. Travel to developing countries has changed my life, and it has in turn changed the lives of those around me. Maybe if you were more apt to get out of your comfort zone when you traveled (staying in that french farm) you would have really and truly experienced something transformational.
Posted by Kelly on 08/25/2009 at 02:41pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I disagree with the supposition that travel is a waste of time. I travel both for work and recreationally (although not that much actually). I find that even travelling in the USA can be culturally intriguing. International travel offers even more. I do agree that one can do more cultural exploration without leaving home by listening to/reading news programs and experiencing various arts. I also believe that most people go on vacation to foreign countries and get only the most sanitized introduction to the culture – or they avoid it entirely. They don't gain much because of this. I have met many people that don't like travel because they don't actually want anything to be different – they just want to sit on a beach, or have different food. For them, travel is a reprieve from work.
I think I disagree with item 4 the most. I believe that routine is a tool to perform the maintenance tasks of your life in the shortest time possible. To me, routine is dreary. A burden on the soul. Obviously, having everything be new all of the time would be emotionally impossible to handle. It would be too hectic. Routine is the more common ailment though.
Posted by A Rioch on 08/25/2009 at 10:53pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I feel like calling you an idiot. I won't, but I feel like it.
Posted by Kevin on 08/26/2009 at 10:22am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I have to say that I totally disagree with the premise of this post.
Travel is best used as a learning tool. Nothing brings the learning experience home to many people better than to be physically removed from the familiar and introduced to a new environment where cultural assumptions as well as the language are different. It's beyond income, at the upper income level, populations are very similar as they are educationally and socially advantaged and therefore think alike. But, it is at the middle and lower income levels that differences occur. This is where true learning can take place and a different perspective, which is not vicariously transferable, can be experienced.
Sorry Penny, but in this post you are wrong, even if I do like #3.
Posted by Dale on 08/26/2009 at 01:45pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
For me, travel is a way to relax and whether it is flying, driving, or taking the train, I thoroughly enjoy it. My life would not be as enriched if I had never seen Alaska, England, Canada, and nearly ever state in the U.S.
In fact, I just got back from a fantastic trip to Springfield, IL and I'm counting the days til I'll be on the road again. I love to travel!!!
Posted by Paul on 08/26/2009 at 10:52pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Just wanted to say how much I love all these "travelling through India taught me so much" pieces. It may have taught you something, but you learned it from people who don't travel more than a few miles. Ironic, no? Because if everyone was privileged enough to be like you, a tourist getting a fix of someone else's reality, then we'd all end up being the same. It's the simple fact that most of the world doesn't travel that preserves and nurtures all these differences. You are an agent of ruin in that regard.
Oh, and while I'm at it – I know that among the "actually I'm not a tourist, I'm a traveller" brigade you think you've done something wonderful by taking your backpack out among the "real people" rather than hang out in the tourist zone, but for most of the developing world that fat tourist with the big video camera who's dropping $250 a day is actually helping out a lot more than you.
Posted by Mark on 08/28/2009 at 05:00am | permalink | Reply to this comment
@ Mark
You're wrong! As a former native now immigrant, I can tell you that the encounters between "travellers and "real" natives in their environs helps both participants.
I learned that all tourists are not fat, rich, self- rightous individuals who look down on me from one such individual. Also, if beautiful but isolated cultures exist but no one knows then an appreciation of the diversity in the world is that much less. The fat tourists usually bring more negatives than their money makes worth it.
Just my two cents worth.
Posted by Dale on 08/28/2009 at 08:09am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Congratulations on baiting lots of people into engaging in a pretty silly discussion. If you'd presented the argument as, "let's supplement travel with the following additions/changes to our lives," it wouldn't draw the reactions that this must to most readers.
Travel is essential, and not just the self-serving beach travel, but service-based experiences abroad and longer, more meaningful posts, like my wife and my current one in Japan for 3-4 years. This experience is teaching us a great deal and is unique beyond comparison to any experiences we've had in the States.
I feel this article could have been about how "Chocolate destroys lives and kills puppies," or "Exercise really hurts more than helps." Your basic assertion is just as ridiculous as these.
Posted by Brad on 08/30/2009 at 07:57am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Two things:
1) I'm very curious how a conversation between you and Ben Casnocha about travel would go.
2) “Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one’s lifetime.”
— Mark Twain, 1857
Posted by kchicago on 08/31/2009 at 12:58pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm pretty sure you ONLY wrote this post to get HIGH traffic and a shit load of comments. WELL DONE. I'm wondering if you really believe this crap you wrote or if you really just did it for numbers and page views.
TRAVELING is amazing. I was born here in America but my parents are from another country and immigrated here and every summer we'd go live in the small village where they grew up and it is some of the best memories of my childhood. I felt and still feel so blessed to have had that international experience of seeing how other people lived… seeing my roots, my ancestors, my family, life at a slower pace, away from the rush of american life, etc.
Also, there's more than one way to travel. Sounds like you didn't have much say in your Europe trip and you didn't travel in college. You can do Europe backpacker style, live in hostels, meet amazing people with great stories, go on adventures every day and not spend more than you would at home. Also Europe isn't the only place to go and it's my least favorite.
India is a beautiful country, especially the south (Kerala is a gold mine of waterfalls, nature, lovely locals who will do everything to make you feel at home). And South east asia as well as New Zealand, Bolivia, cities off the beaten path (Sevilla is better than Madrid and the Tasmania is better than Sydney)…
There's no way that people who are 'happy' with their lives don't travel, as you state. In fact, I LOVE my life in America and that's why I DO travel. I travel with best friends from the states, college friends, my boyfriend, sometimes my parents and even sometimes by myself. I feel like the world is my oyster and if I plan ahead and budget, I can go anywhere and see anything and still save money.
Life's too short and if you don't see how other people live, you are missing out.
I actually feel sorry for you because it seems like you're very career driven now and have 2 kids and have made a personal choice to NOT travel. AND that's TOTALLY OK.
BUT PLEASE don't write a post saying that TRAVEL is BAD for EVERYONE. IT's only bad for you.
The food in Italy tastes better than anything you could ever get at even the best Italian restaurants in NYC, the sunset in the Philippines is more beautiful than words can describe, a houseboat ride on the rivers in Kerala, India is a once in a lifetime experience that you will NEVER forget, and watching a footy game in Melbourne, Australia is more fun than any baseball game I've been to.
I guess it depends on what you want out of life. And if you don't want to broaden your horizons and just want to 'read' about the world in magazines and books, go ahead but there's no way you can learn about other places without visiting and living there.
I spent a year traveling around the world, in addition to studying abroad in New Zealand, and spending summers in some of the poorest regions of Asia. And it has enhanced my life in ways that words can't describe.
So I guess you were successful in that you got me to ACTUALLY POST on this but you totally missed the mark and you know it.
I actually lost some respect for you. As a business/career writer you of all people should know how traveling and living abroad improves your life, stimulates your senses and creativity and encourages you to learn new things immediately (the way the buses work, how to get from one city to the next cheaply (bus,train or plane or drive?), and it forces you to MEET new people. Ok, I'm done.
Posted by lisa america on 09/01/2009 at 05:29am | permalink | Reply to this comment
you are a tool
Posted by bill on 09/01/2009 at 10:41am | permalink | Reply to this comment
omg girl, this is so true! I think I am finding that out more and more the older I get. Truth is, I really really love my life (Really!) and hate leaving it (as in, leaving the house to go on a trip).
The one travel I do that I get the most out of is going and visiting people (friends and/or family) I want to see and want to visit with.
Otherwise yeah…..I kind of love waking up in my own bed and love the life I have created right here! :)
Posted by finance girl on 09/01/2009 at 05:38pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
It wasn't until I traveled and lived abroad that I discovered a whole new world of appreciation about my upbringing. Suddenly things I took for granted on a daily basis were filled with gratitude I never had before. And if the life you love is mobile, then the world is your home… not just one solitary place.
Posted by Joshua Parry on 09/02/2009 at 04:42am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I appreciate very much the point you make that travel is only one of the many ways you can broaden your experiences and change your perspective of the world around you.
But experiences from personal travel, which I enjoy for many reasons, has got me through many a difficult question in a job interview, so it was useful in that way, not a waste of time. But getting experiences for job interviews was never the objective of the travel – enjoyment, new experiences, learning and food were.
I will never ever though take travel out of my toolbox for : refreshing my mind when it gets tired, seeing creative inspirational things, warmer weather, eating better more varied food, meeting new and interesting people…
because why would you take anything efficient out of a toolbox?
And I totally disagree that economic/social difference is the primary difference between people. Its one of many many differences between people. And meeting people of a certain culture, where their culture is in the minority or in the majority is also completely difference. I know quite a few catalans, but I only learnt by going to Catalonia that they drink beer at breakfast, and it was fascinating to me.
Posted by C on 09/02/2009 at 01:13pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I wanna do this kind of travel:
Global Exchange Reality Tours http://www.globalexchange.org/tours/
"Our tours provide individuals the opportunity to understand issues beyond what is communicated by the mass media and gain a new vantage point from which to view and affect US foreign policy. Travelers are linked with activists and organizations from around the globe who are working toward positive change. We also hope to prompt participants to examine related issues in their own communities."
Posted by D on 09/02/2009 at 05:10pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Instead, how about a post on four steps toward recognizing that Penelope's blog is a waste of time.
1) Happen across an article of Penelope's that seems to make sense and has a strong message.
2) Start reading her blog regularly and realize that over 50% of the advice is wrong. Not just situationally so, but totally wrong.
3) Realize that she's a humanistic narcissist, and that as long as the source is broken, the information will be too.
4) Remove her from your RSS reader.
I thought I had already taken care of #4, but apparently not. I'll rectify that.
Part of me has to wonder if this isn't some more anti-Tim-Ferriss hatred she's spewing.
Posted by Technologist on 09/03/2009 at 11:30am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I have to say, your cultural diversity bit is just wrong.
I am an American who moved to Austria. I didn't do it to "learn about the culture," I did it because I fell in love with a man — and Vienna. I got married and stayed.
Vienna is not terribly different from a number of American cities in terms of the overall wealth. (It's much poorer than NYC, for example.) But the culture is extremely different.
Superficially, I can see how you might say "Oh, it's Western culture. It can't be that different." And you might not really notice much on a two-week pleasure trip. But, unlike what my foolish ex-neighbor said, they are not just like Americans because they "Grill and drink beer, just like we do."
These are people who have grown up learning English in school as a requirement, and watching American TV and movies, and listening to American music. But they are so far from America, culturally, that it is breathtaking. The longer I am there, the more I discover just how deeply those differences run.
And, yes, it changed my outlook on life. A lot.
I grew up in a totally unremarkable and very white middle class suburb; I moved to Baltimore City and later, Prince George's County, MD. I lived class differences, and economic differences, but you know what? Under all the poverty and posturing, the Americans were still Americans. They shared fundamental beliefs that run under the superficial differences caused by the wide gap in wealth and education.
And it's hard to see that if you live in it all your life. Living abroad, on the other hand, brushes away those economic differences and shows you the deeper nature of what lies underneath.
Posted by Amy on 09/04/2009 at 04:53pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
You sound bitter. Your arguments are unconvincing. Travel, done right, can be a thrill, complete rejuvenation, enlightening, inspiring and can generate wonderful lifetime memories. I feel bad for you. It sounds like you have been doing it all wrong.
Posted by Janelle on 09/06/2009 at 11:25am | permalink | Reply to this comment
The point is, this author, obviously, only had this "air plane->tour guide->hotel->air plane" type of travelling. He assumes and HUGELY! generalizes that every corner in the world is just like some Caribbean resort. I wonder if this person has ever been to MIddle East or Africa. And he is completely ignoring the humanity part of interacting with people with hugely different cultures, which is something you can't get from this rich-guy style type of travelling mentioned above. He has no idea how some medias can be very crooked. He totally needs to read Han Biya's books. Han Biya is a Korean woman who spent more than 7 years travelling all around the globe only by foot. She wrote numerous books. I don't know if they have been translated into English yet. I just think that you're too ignorant to know what is happening in the other side of the globe.
Posted by Ian on 09/06/2009 at 09:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I agree with YOU! I never traveled much in my life. I'm more interested in the inner exploration anyway. I think you can go a lot further that way.
Posted by Tina on 09/07/2009 at 04:53pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I like this post — it is the perfect blog post, I suppose, in that the title lured me in with my guns a-blazing, thinking there was no way someone could think traveling is a waste of time.
Truth be told, however, is that normally I want to travel really badly when I want to escape really badly. The things I love about traveling — new experiences, new people, new food, new architecture — could be found in one way or another if I put in some effort closer to home.
However — sometimes the act of leaving, of allowing yourself a "safe" retreat (i.e. 2 weeks instead of a year) seems to be the jolt you need to break out of the day-to-day habits that you want to escape so badly.
So, how about a compromise? Why not have a nice break for 2 weeks, see some lovely _________________________ (insert "art", or "people", or "beaches", or "architecture" here) and THEN resolve to spend some time — an hour a day? — trying to cultivate what would make you happier long-term.
Posted by Molly W. on 09/08/2009 at 11:39pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Economic differences matter, and unless you already grew up in poverty, you aren't going to see the gamut of economic differences in the world without traveling.
Posted by Wesley on 09/09/2009 at 09:42am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I really enjoyed your post. I always find it refreshing to get a new an opposing opinion on something:)
At first I obviously disagree with you since I strongly believe that traveling is good for us. Traveling has for me and my family had life changing qualities.
But then reading your post I realize that we are not coming at it from the same perspective. You are talking about shorter trips of a week or two at the most whereas we are in to long term traveling. And from your perspective your ideas do make sense, even to me…
We believe that if you for one reason or another want a change in your life long term traveling is a fantastic tool. 2 weeks just won’t do the trick…
So if you are up for our perspective on traveling you are welcome to extendedworldtravel.com
Posted by Magnus on 09/16/2009 at 11:28am | permalink | Reply to this comment
So sorry.
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