I'm growing sour on travel. I have always disliked it. When I was a kid my parents took us all over Europe and the Caribbean, and it really exhausted me. Now that I'm a grown up, I am better able to articulate why I think travel is a waste of time. Here are four reasons why I think the benefits of travel are largely delusional:
1. There are more effective ways to try new things.
While it's true that learning and broadening your experience is important, doing that one time is quite different from consistently integrating something new into your life. It's low risk to try something for a week. Which will make more impact on your life: going to Africa for a week and seeing wildlife and living in the jungle, or retooling your weekly schedule so that you take a walk through your local forest preserve once a week? You will have a stronger connection to the forest preserve than the jungle, and you will have a deeper sense of how it grows and changes and how you respond. So if you hope that travel will change how you see the world, doing something each week to see the world differently will have more impact than doing it one time, seven days in a row.
2. Cultural differences are superficial. Economic differences matter.
Don't tell yourself you travel to learn about different cultures. Because you don't necessarily learn from people in other cultures. And you don't need to leave the US to find cultures different from your own.
Frans Johansson writes about diversity, and he says that race is not a indicator of diversity any more—background is. And the most diverse backgrounds come from economic disparity. So a rich white person and a poor white person are more different than a rich white person and a rich black person.
I think this is true across cultures as well. I had a South African roommate in college. But she was just like me: rich, white, Jewish. But when I lived on a French farm for a summer, the big difference between me and the farm family wasn't that they were French. It was that they were living on a farm. I know this because when they figured out I was unhappy, they sent me to live with their cousins in Lyon—a large city in France—and the cousins were just like me.
3. People who love their lives don't leave.
Imagine if you were excited to get out of bed every day because you had structured your life so that every day was full of what you have always dreamed of doing. And you were in love with your boyfriend, and your job, and your new handstand in yoga. You love it all—imagine that. Would you want to leave all that behind for two weeks? What would be the point? You'd have more fun at home than away from home. So instead of traveling somewhere, how about figuring out what you'd really love to be doing with your time, and do that? In your real, day-to-day life.
4. Travel is not the time to do deep thinking.
People who need an escape so they can think deeply actually need to add that to their daily life. How about setting aside time to think deeply every few days? Sam Anderson suggests in his article in New York magazine that meditation is so important that people are going to start making time for it in the same way we make time for exercise now. So maybe that travel bug you are feeling is actually a give-me-headspace bug, and if you think you need it only for a couple of weeks, you're wrong. You need time to think each day. Re-craft your days to honor that need, instead of running away for what can only be a temporary respite.
My guess is that the things you are aiming to accomplish while you travel are generally things you could accomplish on a deeper level if you stayed home and made changes to your life instead of running away. Routine and practice are the keys to giving deeper meaning to your life. Sure, disrupting routine is important for gaining new perspective. But you certainly don't need to travel to the next country. There is plenty that is new right where you are now. Just look closely.





I'll probably get as much flak for this comment as you will for this post, but I actually agree with just about everything you said here (especially #3). I find myself far more interested in what makes people the same than what makes them different. I find myself in the minority as someone who doesn't particularly enjoy travel. I can, however, understand why so many do, but this post really resonated for me.
Posted by Alex @ Happiness in this World on August 17, 2009 at 8:25 am | permalink |
"Imagine if you were excited to get out of bed every day because you had structured your life so that every day was full of what you have always dreamed of doing. And you were in love with your boyfriend, and your job, and your new handstand in yoga. You love it all—imagine that."
You are describing 5% or less of the population.
Sometimes you need to get away.
Posted by Tom on August 17, 2009 at 8:33 am | permalink |
Why you would think this I have no idea. Everything in American culture suggests the opposite.
Posted by John on August 18, 2009 at 1:17 am | permalink |
Well said. I think people radically underestimate the cultural differences between rich and poor.
Posted by Alanna on August 17, 2009 at 8:34 am | permalink |
I love #3. You have just given me something new to aspire to. Even if it only occurs to 5% of the population :)
Posted by mamaworker on August 17, 2009 at 8:46 am | permalink |
I have to say I agree with mamaworker.
you are dead wrong about this one!
Jen
Posted by Jen on August 26, 2009 at 6:09 am | permalink |
You are wrong.
Not that your opinion is wrong, but you are factually wrong.
I've been reading your blog long enough that I get your shtick. Say something controversial or shocking and let the comments roll in. In this case, you are just making a set of gross generalizations to justify what I assume is you fear or just lack of a desire to travel. Instead of just accepting you are different, it is easier to make the rest of the world wrong.
I've spent the last two and a half years traveling around the world, traveling to over 60 countries. Unlike you I did it as an adult, not as a child. I did it after being a successful entrepreneur. Moreover, I can't say I've ever encountered someone who has traveled and regretted it.
Specifically dealing with your arguments:
1) I'm sure there are some things you can try without traveling, but trying to compare walking through a forest in Madison, WI with going on a photo safari in Africa is absurd. Have you been on an African safari? If not, how in the world can you make a comparison? I grew up in Wisconsin and I've been in the rainforests of Borneo. Borneo is nothing like Wisconsin. I love Wisconsin, but you can't universalize that experience.
2) You are smoking crack. Go to Japan. It is an advanced, modern, rich country. It is most certainly not the same the United States. This is due to culture. I've had many discussion with Chinese about differences in culture which are based different assumptions, beliefs, and attitudes which have nothing to do with economics. Again, I'm sorry you had a bad experience on the French farm as a teenager, but that is hardly something which can extrapolate to the rest of the world. There is more to the world than European capitals and Caribbean resorts.
3) Can't the be said of any change in life? People who love their lives don't change anything about it. This sounds like a post hoc justification of someone who is afraid to travel, that your life is so perfect that there is no point. As with any other change in life (having kids, starting a business, moving) travel can be a method of improving your life.
4) This depends on what you want to think about. If you are a product manager and want to think about how you can sell products outside of the US, traveling can be a great time to think about things. I don't know why travel has to justify itself as a time to think about things.
I've met many people who have taken career breaks to travel extensively. None of them regretted it and in no cases that I know of did it hurt their career (ostensibly the focus of this site).
If you don't like to travel, that's fine. That's your business. Trying to make sweeping generalizations about something you know little about to justify your lack of desire to travel is absurd.
Posted by Gary Arndt on August 17, 2009 at 8:49 am | permalink |
Agreed. I was going to say "Penelope doesn't like to travel, which is fine. She then states why it's stupid for everyone to travel, which is silly."
To each their own. How about "4 Reasons Why I Don't Like to Travel."
Oh, right, because then there would be fewer comments (for example, I would have found it very interesting to read why you don't like to travel; but I might not have commented).
It's very dramatic.
Pen
Posted by Pen on August 17, 2009 at 1:18 pm | permalink |
SNAP. Comparing her local park to an African safari was a hilarious example of complete ignorance and stupidity.
Posted by Jessica on August 17, 2009 at 4:48 pm | permalink |
Could not have said it any better myself. This post is pure link bait.
Posted by Chris Rakowski on August 18, 2009 at 7:20 am | permalink |
I do not agree with everything PT says in fact it is always a mixture of WTF is this crap next to the great stuff. Gary Arndt I feel a need to clear things up for you as you seem uncapable.
1)She was comparing the WI to Africa in terms of utility not experience. You are assuming that we should enjoy Africa over any other forest. I believe you are "universalizing" there.
2)First of all if you ever want to be taken serious you should leave crack references out of the way because it seems as if you got that from a movie reference and have no idea what it means to smoke crack. Being a former athlete and basically living with 400 different people from all over the country and 5 countries. Although we may have been different in color the real divide came from wealth. The difference between likes, expectations, wants, needs, was most closely related monetarily not geographically. Any place that it is acceptable to shit in the middle of the street, among other things is not rich. You saw the tourist area I am sure. Back to PT's point, if you are traveling to learn different cultures just as much can be learned from someone in a different socioeconomic background.
3) What I believe she was saying is that most intelligent, self aware, driven people get what they want. It is not that do not want to change but they figured out what they wanted (the hardest part) and got it. Once again probably should not attack ones "opinion or belief" if you want to have a credible argument.
4) Although her blog is about career I believe she meant was personal travel. As a child she was not traveling for business not sure if you picked that up or not.
Do you think that maybe it didn't hurt there career because they figured out what they wanted and then got it. Maybe that is what they needed, for some people it could be something different. What I got from this is that if you are ready to figure out what makes you happy than traveling is not the "get rich quick" method.
I do not think she made any generalizations I just think you missed the boat, plane, or train (pun intended).
Posted by traveler on August 18, 2009 at 11:30 am | permalink |
Curious why you took his reply so personally when so many people had the same reaction including me. Her reasons for not traveling are valid for Penelope but certainly not valid for the majority who love to travel. You need to do less worshipping of Penelope and much more thinking for yourself.
Posted by Sidney on August 19, 2009 at 5:53 pm | permalink |
I agree wholeheartedly. I find it interesting that the writer prefaced her article about how traveling is a "waste of time" by stating her parents dragged her all over the world as a child. That's not how you build up credibility for your point of view — quite the opposite!
Besides, I grew up in Kansas — going out to see the world, living in other countries, was definitely not a waste of time. It was, overall, a wonderful, enriching experience — both the positive and negative experiences were valuable spiritual food. It does without saying, for instance, that living in India for 6 months did something important for me, something not definable.
Posted by David Caruso on August 18, 2009 at 12:36 pm | permalink |
Basically, everything you said here is right on.
Posted by Sara on August 18, 2009 at 2:24 pm | permalink |
Wow, I have been reading Penelope's blog for a while too and generally I see her point very well and often agree but this is one that I think is bizarre. I too have travelled extensively, both for work and for recreation. I have to admit that when travelling for work I am eager to get home, but overall my life experience and appreciation for humanity and the earth to whome we owe our exisitence id far richer for the travel expereinces I have had.
Me think Penelope just doesn;t like travel, and there is nothing wrong with that, but her 4 reasons are exactly the reasons why the rest of the world often refer's to the US as 'Planet America', lol.
Perhaps Penelope is just playing with us, i hope so anyway.
How to Paper Mache
Posted by Sarah on August 25, 2009 at 12:06 am | permalink |
This post is ironic: though I agree with the points made, those points can only be learned by visiting new places and cultures.
It's one thing to read a blog, and it's another to experience it. I, for one, will be learning and re-learning the points in this post over and over again until I die, because that's what I enjoy doing.
Posted by Adam Hooper on August 17, 2009 at 8:52 am | permalink |
Point #2 resonated most with me. I don't disagree with your other three points, but only to say that it depends on what type of travel you've designed. For example, my wife and I travel from Ottawa, Canada, to the East Coast at least once a year to visit family and friends. Sure it's nice to visit, but by the time I get home I'm sucked out…and what did I learn?
Conversely, we did a three week train trip down through the Midwest to San Diego in May 2008. Now that was a buzz. Initially, I wanted to fly direct to San Diego to see my aunt, but the missus hates flying. Good thing she talked me out of it since flying sucks; you miss everything. So there's a balance in life when it comes to staying rooted at home or always on the go, travelling somewhere.
Posted by Jim on August 17, 2009 at 8:57 am | permalink |
I was intrigued by the title but my face fell when I read the content. Mamawrker above is absolutely correct so I don't need to repeat what she has said. I'm just amazed that an educated (and widely travelled) person such as yourself could have come to that conclusion. I grew up on an island where tourism is the main industry and I can imagine 'tourist destinations' being quite tedious but that really is not the point. America is a big country and your type of view comes up in many different ways – but I don't think you could convince a Brit.
I hope you get around a bit more with a more open mind.
Posted by tropicalismo360 on August 17, 2009 at 9:00 am | permalink |
I like my life, my job, and my hometown—but that doesn't mean that when the mercury reaches 20 below zero in the middle of January that I don't want to head somewhere warmer for a week or two. If I can choose a place that encourages me to learn a new language, try a new food, and experience a new culture, so much the better.
Posted by Erin on August 17, 2009 at 9:00 am | permalink |
No "s" at the end of Lyon.
Have a nice day!
Posted by Calliope on August 17, 2009 at 9:01 am | permalink |
Thanks. Got it. :)
-Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on August 17, 2009 at 11:10 am | permalink |
The other thing about travel is that most people get the Tourist Version of whatever place they're visiting. The experiences that they have tend to be constructed by the local tourist industry to pander to tourists' preconceived notions, and to water down and sugar coat everything for easier consumption.
Posted by timdellinger on August 17, 2009 at 9:01 am | permalink |
That depends on where and how you travel – but yes, that is true for most people.
Posted by Sara on August 18, 2009 at 2:26 pm | permalink |
Very interesting post. It's the first in a long time that actually made me think twice about things.
Posted by Smith+Fritzy on August 17, 2009 at 9:01 am | permalink |
Thank you Gary, I couldn't have said it better myself.
One other thing – how about adventure and natural beauty? Is your life that perfect that you wouldn't be thrilled by ziplining through the rain forests in Costa Rica or boarding down volcanos in Nicaragua?
Do yourself a favor and visit some unique places of true beauty – Macchu Pichu and China's Lijiang river are two recent sites that come to mind. How about seeing the northern lights?
I could go on but I think you get my point. I think my life is great too, and I wouldn't trade it for anything. But the point is you don't have to trade it – you can go away for a relatively short time, see things you never dreamed existed, and if you're lucky share the experience with someone you love.
Sorry, and I mean this in the nicest possible way because I really do enjoy your blog, but at best you sound like boring workaholic, and at worst a typical passport-less American.
Posted by Jon on August 17, 2009 at 9:03 am | permalink |
P is not a workaholic. She's a narcissist. There's a big difference. Aside from blogging and self-promotion, what "work" does she do?
Posted by Gary on August 18, 2009 at 1:21 am | permalink |
PT:
Ironic you cite yoga and meditation in your post! You do realise that if nobody had travelled, you would never have heard of yoga. Or for that matter, the kind of meditation that is now the subject of much research but that has roots in Hinduism and Buddhism, religions that are not native to your country/ continent and you only know of them because someone travelled.
Jewish people, who travelled to India, had (until the attack in Mumbai in Nov 2008) the unique distinction of being the only Jewish people not to have been persecuted in any manner. Perhaps their travel was futile in your eyes.
Oh, and really smart people know that nothing is permanent – not even lovely lives they lead and love. They do not fiddle with their schedules, they get out and do things.
I say all this as a person who lives 1000s of miles away from the continent she was born in and works with clients in 3 continents, including yours. I love that life and it came about with travel. I have gained languages, been introduced to a wide range of music and literature, appreciated my blessings, gotten to know many new friends. Oh, and perspective. To appreciate the world beyond my own little pond.
PS: Like Gary Arndt here, we all understand some posts are for driving traffic but the reasoning here is eye-watering. Seriously.
Posted by Shefaly on August 17, 2009 at 9:06 am | permalink |
Just to reiterate the importance of mamaworker's comment – and the critical line: "Say something controversial or shocking and let the comments roll in"
I'm off this blog (don't worry, you won't miss me)
Posted by tropicalismo360 on August 17, 2009 at 9:07 am | permalink |
Interesting post. And while it's based on lots of assumptions based on your own life experiences (which can probably be said for all of our assumptions) I'll tackle only one. Point #3: "Imagine if you were excited to get out of bed every day because you had structured your life so that every day was full of what you have always dreamed of doing."
What do you do if what you have always dreamed of doing is traveling? What if you get excited about waking up in a new city on a regular basis? What if you love the thrill of not knowing where you'll be in a month? What if you revel in the freedom of going where you please?
Does that mean one doesn't love their life? Or does it simply mean that we're all different and we all love different aspects of life?
So while travel is obviously not right for you, that doesn't mean it's not right for countless others.
As always, great post, especially the baiting headline. :)
Posted by Karol Gajda on August 17, 2009 at 9:08 am | permalink |
@ Gary I don't agree with a good deal of the things Penelope has to say either. I still enjoy most of her posts. Any of the good points you had to make started losing ground the moment you started using insults in your rebuttal. Yes controversy is a great marketing tool. There is more to both this blog and writer than that. Go ahead and check out by her. and if you still want to say those things than say them without insults. That is bad form, and is only necessary if your argument is not strong enough to stand on its own.
@ Penelope. I love every point you made. I still want to travel, but I think that a lot of the things that I would look for I can make part of my every day life, and I love that. After all, if you can't find happiness where you are, going half way around the world is not going to change that. Great post!
Posted by JS Dixon on August 17, 2009 at 9:13 am | permalink |
I love to read about different perspectives on all issues and be able to discuss these in an open forum. For my wife and I, we absolutely love our lives in Seattle and my job is extremely rewarding. Our decision to leave on a multi-year trip around the world is due to the fact that there is so much in the world to see and experience and for us this is important. For us, travel is a passion and the experience we are anxious to embark on.
The key is ultimately that every person identify what is really important to him/her and embrace it fully, whether it be travel, starting a business, or learning to sail. Even more important to me is that everyone explores what is really important to them in their lives and attacks it with the voracity that it deserves.
I do believe that embracing new cultures and having different experiences can be life changing. The following quote sums up my feelings best on the subject of why one should travel:
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one’s lifetime.” –Mark Twain, The Innocents Abroad (1869)
Posted by Warren Talbot on August 17, 2009 at 9:13 am | permalink |
I highly disagree with this post. Last time I checked you weren't going to see a giraffe wandering around the forest preserve in Wisconsin. And while watching some nature shows on TV can be cool, it's nothing like experiencing something in person. Just as looking at the Mona Lisa in the Louvre is different than looking at it in a book.
I also don't agree that people who love their lives don't leave. Many people are capable of loving their lives both when they're in the daily grind and when they're halfway across the world on a beach or exploring a rainforest. It's narrow-minded to think that people have to do the same thing all the time to love their lives.
Posted by Jen on August 17, 2009 at 9:15 am | permalink |
Poor article. Dont feel like agreeing or disagreeing. Very ordinary.
Posted by Arun on August 17, 2009 at 9:15 am | permalink |
While one can take in culture locally rather than traveling (although I agree with previous commenters that it's really not the same), there is no prospect of changing local weather to permit doing what you want.
My husband and I like to take walks. We do it frequently from October through April, but the other five months, it's more than 100 degrees where we live.
Posted by bottomofthe9th on August 17, 2009 at 9:16 am | permalink |
What if something you've always wanted to see or do is not at home? The only way to REALLY see the art in Florence is to go to Florence. The only way to REALLY see a vast plain full of elephants and zebras is to go to Africa. The only way to REALLY experience the ocean is to be near the ocean.
I think you just needed a new post, are having a pretty happy life today, and phoned this one in.
Posted by Jane Greer on August 17, 2009 at 9:20 am | permalink |
I've noticed that those who travel-rich or not-are usually less narrow-minded in regards to their situations in life compared to what others might be experiencing.
I think you missed this in your adventures. Even when I toured Europe at the young age of 15, I knew that downtown London was 'rich' and that the small towns in Austria weren't so much. I also knew where I would fit in the most because of that.
Now, after visiting over a dozen countries, I will argue that it is an eye-opener. a fire alarm going off in Sweden has an entirely different meaning than one going off in Minnesota-several towns have completely burned down in Sweden's history. Not so much in the U.S.
Only a narrow-minded outlook on life will allow for a viewpoint that travel is a waste of time. After all, life is what you make it.
Posted by Liza on August 17, 2009 at 9:20 am | permalink |
I think traveling provides an opportunity to develop or improve skills that are important in life and business that you don't even address here. You have to be flexible, and a problem-solver. There is no substitute for figuring out wtf to do when you have lost your wallet and passport in the middle of a foreign country, or because you missed a ferry to get to whatever place you were staying for the night and now it's 11:30 pm in an unfamiliar city and all the hotels are booked because there's a convention and no one speaks English and you have literally no idea where you're going to sleep. If you travel alone, you get to know yourself. If you travel with another person, you get to know them in ways you couldn't in another way. You learn how to talk to strangers, entertain yourself (during those long train rides), and pack lightly. And one more thing – I do love traveling, but I always come back with a deeper appreciation for my home, and everything that's great about it. Sometimes you have to leave in order to appreciate what you have.
Posted by Sara on August 17, 2009 at 9:30 am | permalink |
Why do you need to generalize from your experiences to the rest of us?
I find travel to be wonderful. I learn, I make new friends who are totally different from me, and I enjoy it. But I wouldn't encourage YOU to travel, because YOU clearly don't enjoy it. I also like baking, but can accept that you might not. I despise running. Running makes me tired and cranky and sore. But I don't assume from that experience that other people shouldn't run, because some of them seem to really like it.
What I got from your article is a sense of sour grapes. You had some lousy travel experiences. But you don't want to think that you are a bad traveler, or just got unlucky. No, there needs to a deeper message about why travel is bad or at least unnecessary for everyone, not just you.
Posted by DT on August 17, 2009 at 9:32 am | permalink |
I disagree. I think (as a well-traveled person) that traveling really enriches people. It broadens their minds. I am not talking about going to a resort in Punta Cana. I've done that too and while it's lovely, it's not what broadens a mind. It's the visiting of cultural landmarks, history museums and visiting with the locals that really makes the difference. The rest of the world is SO different than the US. It's a shame to not experience that.
Posted by La Petite Belle on August 17, 2009 at 9:37 am | permalink |
I don't much like travel (well, being a tourist) either, but I have always loved living abroad — I am not sure where that would fit in your schema.
I do agree that making your life at home more enjoyable is better than travel.
Posted by Sarah on August 17, 2009 at 9:37 am | permalink |
I travel to Japan every year to do the one thing I can't do in the states. Visit my wife's family. Penelope's observation about cultural differences is dead on. The cultural differences are mostly superficial. Tokyo is just like any other big city. If you go to rural areas of Japan the differences are more pronounced, but they have more to do with being in farm country than they do with the culture.
I'm surprised by the hostility in the comments. I agree with just about everything in the post, but I love to travel and that is not going to change.
However, working a walk in the woods into my weekly schedule probably would do more for me than the African safari. So i'll do both.
Posted by Jeromy Timmer on August 17, 2009 at 9:39 am | permalink |
Hi Penelope:
This is the first time I have the chance to read your blog. Unfortunately, this post is the first one I read too. But I don´t think is accurate and I strongly disagree with all 4 of the developed statements.
Travelling and tourism have their pros and cons. When you travel you don´t only see, experience and remember good things. Because none of them are perfect. None of us, human beings who make, live, feel, experience and recreate tourism, are.
I think It´s ok if you don´t like travelling and you never did. What it´s not ok is to make the good things about travelling, bad ones.
I agree on what you say in your last paragraph. Disrupting routing is necessary to gain perspective. Travelling is one way of leaving routing for some days, to gain perspective. But this is only one of the various reasons for people who choose to travel, to start or continue travelling.
If you think that the world is at your feet or could be discovered just walking round the corner, maybe you are looking to a tiny piece, your world, out of a huge present that could be discovered by us every day, which is life and other persons lives.
Posted by Verónica Aimar on August 17, 2009 at 9:55 am | permalink |
This post almost could have been titled "ways to get the benefits of travel without leaving home" — as it does remind those of us who love to travel that we could make time in our daily and weekly schedule to have the experiences we appreciate so much when travelling.
Posted by Wendy on August 17, 2009 at 10:11 am | permalink |
Yikes, painfully bad post (and I usually love your posts and will definitely keep reading).
All I have to say is that you've never really traveled. Sad to say, if you ever got sent overseas, you'd be one of those people eating KFC and Starbucks everyday and complaining about your self-imposed, minimal contact with the locals.
I think anyone who is a real traveler here just rolled their eyes. We know you're type and we'll see you at the McDonald's in Paris…
Posted by Rose on August 17, 2009 at 10:12 am | permalink |
I really wish you were right about travel. I haven't been able to travel outside the US in 10 years. It would be great to say, "Travel sucks, I'm not missing anything." But I know that's not true–travel is important as a growth experience.
Even if you go the most touristy part of a touristy country, you're still doing something different than what you do every other day, forcing some novelty into your brain, having to re-evaluate the stuff you do at home.
Also, when I meet someone and can't stand them because they're so smugly set in their habits and patterns of thought, and convinced they're right about everything, I find a lot of the time it's because they either don't read, don't travel, or both.
Posted by boots on August 17, 2009 at 10:14 am | permalink |
I enjoy traveling a lot and like many people it's one of my goals to accomplish more of it.
That said, it's nice to see an argument against traveling and strong arguments, at that. Point #2 is very true and I never really saw it like that. Race and nationality do provide difference but not nearly as much as economics. All four points are equally thought provoking.
I'd much rather spend my money on occasional travel than spend money accumulating stuff I don't need. I will still continue to make traveling a priority, but now I can do it with open eyes. I realize now that traveling is not done for the reasons we normally believe it's for.
Posted by Valerie M on August 17, 2009 at 10:19 am | permalink |
"My guess is that the things you are aiming to accomplish while you travel are generally things you could accomplish on a deeper level if you stayed home and made changes to your life instead of running away."
Who says you have to accomplish something when you travel? Why can't you just go for fun and adventure? I'm sorry, but I like mountains, I live in Dallas, TX–when I travel to the mountains, I'm not looking to accomplish deep thinking or establish cultural differences–I'm going because I have a need to get out in the open air. I like living in Dallas–I can ride my horse year round, my family is here, etc. etc. but sometimes I just have to go to the mountains. It really is that simple.
Why do people feel like they have to accomplish something all the time? I think that is a sad life–how can you ever sit back and truly enjoy activities if you always have an agenda? This has nothing to do with laziness or lack of ambition–and everything to do with the fact that I don't want ever evaluate my life based solely on accomplishments–there has to be a mixture between that and fun–zest for life, going and doing the things that make you happy–and if you travel and it makes you happy–who cares if you didn't accomplish anything when you were happy while you were doing it?
Posted by Heather on August 17, 2009 at 10:21 am | permalink |
I love travel for pleasure and to enrich my life. I think about my next trip all the time and one of the reasons I work hard is to have the time and money to travel. Travelling to Europe and across my own country improves my organization and planning skills as well as my interpersonal skills and patience. Seeing the Rocky Mountains or a medieval city or the ocean for the first time are experiences that I wouldn’t trade for anything and could never duplicate close to home. There are no whales where I live. But the thing I love most is seeing the little differences in how people live their everyday lives and meeting people with different world views. Seeing how other people live improves empathy, whether their economic status is similar to mine or not. Europeans who get 6+ weeks of vacation a year have a different outlook than North Americans who make the same money but only get 2 weeks off.
On the other hand I think business travel is a huge waste of time and money. Most of what is accomplished should and could be done online. Speeches can be given remotely, contacts can be made online. If the tools we have are insufficient to replace business travel, they can and will be improved within the next few years. Most business travelers see the inside of a hotel, conference room or office that is the same as the one at home and eat meals at chain restaurants without having any time to experience the place they travelled to.
Posted by Veronica Sawyer on August 17, 2009 at 10:21 am | permalink |
I love travel, but the funny thing I find is that people always want to flit off to 'exotic' locations in the heart of Africa or the middle of the Sahara for the experience – yet the same experiences can be had in their home country for a third of the price.
My home state, for example, offers similar natural experiences to almost a third of the world. My home country – half the world. Throw in a few neighbouring countries and I've almost gone through every terrain type in the world.
Of course, that still leaves archaelogical/historic interests as a motivation to blow $5K on an overseas trip, so I still try to hop on the plane once in a while.
As for people travelling to Third World countries to see what poverty is like…I can wander down to the train station and watch the bums fight each other for a sandwich or something.
Posted by Mike on August 17, 2009 at 10:36 am | permalink |
I had always wanted to see Angkor Wat and Petra in Jordan, but heck, Angkor Watt is just a church – I've got those right here in town, and Petra – just some stone buildings – plenty of those much closer to home. I was living in Berlin, Germany when the Wall came down. Who knew I could have just stayed home and torn down the fence in my yard to get the same experience? Thanks for enlightening me! (not!)
Closer to home, as an American, I've been to both Mexico and Canada. The culture and "feel" of Mexico is much different, while Canada is much closer to what I'm used to – but they are both still different enough to make a visit worthwhile. Heck, even traveling about the US is an experience to be savored. If you think there is little difference between your Madison and say, Memphis, Phoenix, or Boston, then you're spending way too much time inside a chain motel. Get out and see the differences. You might even learn something.
Posted by Dave on August 17, 2009 at 10:47 am | permalink |
Good post. Well-written and totally unapologetic, which is cool. It also gets people to reveal important parts of themselves, specifically the secret part that thinks everyone should do things the way they do them and think the way they think.
Easy trap to fall into. Thinking independently and honestly not giving a damn about the opinions of others is extremely difficult, and following a list of instructions–such as, get a college education, travel the world, work in the ghetto, seek the meaning of life through adrenaline highs, etc–won't magically give you the ability to do that.
NOTHING is a waste of time when done with a coherent idea behind it. If P's intention is to make you think about why you really do the things you do (I've always loathed the attitude that compels people to do things just to say they've done them), then I think this post succeeds.
Posted by Brad Gutting on August 17, 2009 at 10:52 am | permalink |
@Brad Gutting
Is it that hard to see that traveling, for many people, is not something "on a list of instructions", but just something that they genuinely enjoy?
Why can't I make argument #3 about _anything_ new? If I love my life, why should I need to read about other people? Why should I see movies that transport me to a different place? Why should I bother meeting new people? My life is perfect as it is, and if I feel the need to meet new people, it just means that I'm not truly happy, right?
This promotion of complacency is harmful, I think. And the holier-than-though attitude of "if you really loved your life, you wouldn't want to travel" is downright sickening.
Posted by Jon on August 17, 2009 at 11:06 am | permalink |
With all due respect, this post is written from the perspective of one who has traveled extensively. As only it can be. It is only because you were afforded that luxury by your parents, as a child, that you have this view. I'm not saying it's a wrong view, on the contrary, I share most of it myself. But that's because I stand on the other side of 2 emigrations. And I see how, barring culture, geography and economics, people are pretty much the same at core, world over. Yes, much of what people say the benefits are from traveling, can be learned effectively (or even more effectively) on home soil. But sometimes a new environment and a new perspective will give you a kick-start when nothing else will. That alone is valuable and not a waste of time. It all depends on the individual.
Posted by Natalie on August 17, 2009 at 11:09 am | permalink |
Yeah, Natalie. I think you're right. And Adam made the point near the top of the comments that it's ironic that you can only get this point of view about travel by traveling. All true.
But I think it's important for us all to reconsider the goals we have for travel. And what we really get from travel. And now that I think about it, maybe I'm really lucky that I've traveled so much that I understand the benefits of staying in one place.
Penleope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on August 17, 2009 at 11:18 am | permalink |
A lot of commenters are saying this was just a controversial post, written to garner comments. I don't know whether it is or it isn't. At the point I'm in my life, it resonated with me nonetheless,
I was born a rich (comparatively-speaking), white South Africa, left when things got rough, lived in quaint, repressed England for 5 years and now in the US for 6, including a year's stint in NYC. I've traveled to various other African countries, a paradise island, throughout the UK and into Europe. Although I wouldn't call myself well-traveled, I've seen enough to know what well-traveled truly means.
When locals here in MD, USA find this out about me, their eyes light up, their imaginations spark and they question, what the hell I am I doing in rural MD? You know what all this traveling has taught me? Family and friends are what's important. Nothing else. Reminds me of this song "I've never been to me"
Posted by Natalie on August 17, 2009 at 11:46 am | permalink |
Travel is a hobby for some people just like anything else. Some people like knitting, some people like surfing, others like chess, just because someone doesn't value the same things as you, doesn't mean that they secretly hate their life, or whatever other motives you assign to their hobby. It just means they like different things than you.
Posted by Anon on August 17, 2009 at 11:10 am | permalink |
I really enjoy your blog, but this post struck a few sour notes with me.
1) You are writing as someone who has traveled all over the world. Sure, some of it was forced, and with your batshit crazy family, but you've had the privilege to go to other places. So it's funny for someone who has traveled everywhere to say "Nah, it's not worth it."
2) Americans don't travel enough. It's valuable to be in other places and see how other people live and maybe realize that the United States is not the center of the universe and that in a visceral way the people around you don't care about your pop culture or your money or speaking English. It's valuable to learn foreign languages. It's valuable to bring back stories, things, sights, photos, memories, food you tried, etc. from the rest of the world and incorporate things into your daily life.
Posted by JenniferP on August 17, 2009 at 11:19 am | permalink |
I agree with this – for one or two week getaways. When you're away for a short time, you only have time to adjust to a different place and then prepare to go back. You get a snapshot of a different way of life and that's it.
I went for 6 months in India, across small towns. That was totally worth it. It was transformative and gave me a reference that lasted me the rest of my life. Of course, in small towns it is a totally different socio-economic makeup. Leprosy was evident on the street and suffering was visible. Being in a place where that isn't shuffled away into non-visible homeless shelters is touching in itself.
Posted by Matthew | Polaris Rising on August 17, 2009 at 11:30 am | permalink |
Whereas I've learned things even on brief trips. I don't think that makes them equivalent to your travels in India–I just don't think it's necessary to dismiss different experiences.
Posted by KateNonymous on August 17, 2009 at 2:31 pm | permalink |
First and foremost – cultural differences ARE important.
I mean have you ever talked to a off-the-boat eastern european? I had two friends from University who were off-the-boaters but came from very different situations: One was from a nobody family from a backwater Ukranianian town and the other had parents with PH.D's and was from a bigger Russian centre. Economically myself and the PH.D. were from similar situations – it didn't matter, those two guys thought in a completely different way than anyone else I went to school with. Since then every time I have had the opportunity to work with someone who grew up in that region my experiences have been the same – Something about Russian culture means that typically Russians think differently.
As far as travelling goes – I agree that travelling somewhere for a week doesn't help you getting perspective, and it won't typically give you all that much cultural experience (being friends with those eastern europeans for the last many years has given me much more perspective than travelling to Russia for a week ever could). However, extended duration travel provides an entirely different experience than simply spending a week somewhere.
The perspective I gained from spending a year in Africa with Engineers Without Borders IS NOT something I could have acquired by spending my days at a homeless shelter in Winnipeg (the best economic condition comparison I could think of)
Posted by Marc KS on August 17, 2009 at 11:48 am | permalink |
I think one of the very important points that Penelope makes is the worthy goal of creating a life that doesn't require a reset button through exotic travel or any other escape. There is beauty in the smallest of local treasures – in connections with people, no matter what culture or background. If you have to go to Paris to be romantic, something is wrong. If your life isn't good enough (I mean really, really FANTASTIC) without dancing the tango in Argentina or hiking in New Zealand or taking that African safari, then you aren't paying attention.
Places and things are great – they can teach us so much and we can all globally benefit from the education (many of the commenters above make terrific points about what we can all learn from travel). But there is also nothing wrong with what is already here in our backyards…right, Dorothy?
Posted by Amy Vachon on August 17, 2009 at 11:53 am | permalink |
Penelope, have you ever been to China? I have found the culture to be profoundly, structurally, psychologically, different.
Posted by LPC on August 17, 2009 at 12:00 pm | permalink |
You hated the farm in France, yet you're still with the Wisconsin farmer. Hmmm
As far as PT being controversial just to generate comments, well yah. Comments are the blogger's mother's milk. I'm convinced she'll take ten blistering comments over five compliments any day. (And I've done my part to oblige.)
Posted by JR on August 17, 2009 at 12:09 pm | permalink |
I think that there are clearly merits to traveling, but I agree with your points. Sometimes people travel for the wrong reasons. Thinking it will give them answers about what to do in life…but really it will only make you more confused.
Posted by meaghan on August 17, 2009 at 12:25 pm | permalink |
I'm from a reasonably rich family in South America, now living i) the US (NYC and then North Carolina), and I find the culture extremely different here (individualism, competition, need for achievement), even in the same social-economic level.
2 quick examples:
I have friends who make beer at home in the U.S.. They are very competitive, always participating on contests for the best beer. In my native country, if you make beer, is to have fun and share with friends. Who cares about competitions?
Other friends compete in marathons, and they go crazy preparing to the next one. In my native country, a lot of friends participate in marathons, but they couldn't care less about winning or the time they make.
Living abroad made me understand my culture much better, because now I have means to compare it with a different one.
Posted by P.Alves on August 17, 2009 at 12:27 pm | permalink |
Oh, and I'd like to second what DT says:
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Posted by P.Alves on August 17, 2009 at 12:29 pm | permalink |
Damn, the brackets made the text go away:
"I find travel to be wonderful. I learn, I make new friends who are totally different from me, and I enjoy it. But I wouldn't encourage YOU to travel, because YOU clearly don't enjoy it. I also like baking, but can accept that you might not. I despise running. Running makes me tired and cranky and sore. But I don't assume from that experience that other people shouldn't run, because some of them seem to really like it.
"What I got from your article is a sense of sour grapes. You had some lousy travel experiences. But you don't want to think that you are a bad traveler, or just got unlucky. No, there needs to a deeper message about why travel is bad or at least unnecessary for everyone, not just you."
I couldn't agree more.
Posted by P.Alves on August 17, 2009 at 12:31 pm | permalink |
My life to date has been equally split over India, Fiji, Dubai, New Zealand and Australia (now the U.S) I have to say that I always got much more enjoyment out of living in a different country to understand the cultural differences than travelling to one. However, we did go to Peru for our honeymoon and it makes for better stories than most of my life's travel experiences. I think this is because we tend to have a compressed set of 'experiences' in a 2-3 week vacation. This is then very memorable and useful for impressing people. Recounting the experiences makes me an interesting person in front of other people. Don't all of us want that in some way? ;)
Posted by Isis on August 17, 2009 at 12:32 pm | permalink |
I disagree with your premise. However, I do think there's a lot to be said for exploring your own back yard (so to speak). It's very easy to overlook local attractions, be they natural or manmade, or the economic and social diversity that exists nearby.
But I think you underestimate the power of culture. You weren't unhappy on the farm because of how that family earned their living. You were unhappy because you didn't connect with farming culture. It has a different calendar, clock, and set of priorities than urban culture, which was more familiar to you, even in a foreign language.
Posted by KateNonymous on August 17, 2009 at 12:36 pm | permalink |
PT is only reflecting what most people in the US instinctively know, the vast majority see no value spending time getting a passport. Actually doesn't it beat you why Americans would travel anywhere else but America? They've got everything they need at home. Heck, I heard you can go to Las Vegas and they've got the Eiffel Tower there, and gondolas. And P's right, underneath everybody in the world is the same as Americans, why leave the country to meet a poor Sinhalese farmer's family when you could spend time with a poor Nebraskan farmer's family and have just the exact same experience.
Yessiree!
Posted by Tony Randall on August 17, 2009 at 12:42 pm | permalink |
Hi Penelope.
The central argument in this post is that people could carve out bits of time in their regular schedule to experience the benefits of travel (e.g. trying new things, doing the things they love, deep thimking). You are theoretically right, but most people (including me) don't have the discipline to schedule in activities to make this happen. They need travel to force it upon themselves.
Think religion. Although all religions say that their adherents should be "spiritual" and "righteous" all of the time and have God in their thoughts all of the time, most folks simply don't. They need stuff like religious rituals, traditions, and holy days to remind them to be Godly. I argue that it is the same for doing what you love, nature walks, trying new things, etc.
Cheers, Jay
Posted by Jay Godse on August 17, 2009 at 1:00 pm | permalink |
"I don't think you could convince a Brit" – I'm one and I'm not convinced. Is this a US vs rest of world type difference? That Americans tend not to travel for the sake of it, but you can meet tons of Brits, Europeans, Australians all backpacking through Asia, Africa and Latin America.
I loved my travelling experiences and met some truly interesting people; took trains through landscapes I'd never seen before (hard to compare India to Oxfordshire) and ate food I could barely recognise. I'm not sure if it's improved any skills, or made me a better person in any way, but it opened my eyes to realities that were only "concepts" before.
Someone said that a week on its own wasn't really enough, and I agree with that, too. To soak it all up and begin to feel more comfortable, a month + is probably better.
Posted by Clare on August 17, 2009 at 1:18 pm | permalink |
Usually I find your blog interesting Penelope but every one of your arguments in this post are completely ridiculous.
"And you were in love with your boyfriend, and your job, and your new handstand in yoga. You love it all—imagine that. Would you want to leave all that behind for two weeks?"
Yeah. Find me one single person who is 100% content with every aspect of their life.
The hell with that. I'd rather backpack in Italy. Have fun taking a nature walk in your local forest preserve and blogging about how more enlightened you somehow are then the rest of us that enjoy leaving town once in a while.
Posted by Dartboard on August 17, 2009 at 1:20 pm | permalink |
I can't decide which I like more: the post or the comments.
Seriously, some of the people responding here are absolutely hilarious. There's nothing more amusing than watching people act all affronted and defensive when they feel their way of life has been insulted …
I'm pretty sick of the way travel is spoken of as the ultimate experience. Of it being some kind of privileged, 1st-world orthodoxy — a truth universally acknowledged, that one in possession of a good fortune must be in want of a trip to blinkin' Thailand.
Tsk.
The way 'well-travelled' people call others narrow-minded when they explain their own reasons for preferring not to travel. Hahaha. I think I know who comes out looking more narrow-minded …
Great post.
Posted by Billicatons on August 17, 2009 at 1:22 pm | permalink |
Freudian Slip? The article is by Sam Anderson, not beer-maker Sam Adams. (Nor is it by Portland mayor Sam Adams.)
Posted by Brian on August 17, 2009 at 1:28 pm | permalink |
Oh. Thanks for that. I'm making the change. Maybe Sam will find consolation in the fact that I've quoted him three times in three months. So he is a regular here. Well, when his name is right…
Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on August 17, 2009 at 4:51 pm | permalink |
You bring up some interesting points… for example, that we should be striving to build the kind of life that doesn't require a break or vacation.
Unfortunately, actually achieving that kind of life is extremely difficult. Even if you DID have the perfect life, by chance, sometimes a change in routine and scenery will keep you fresh and (as someone already mentioned) appreciative of what you do have. If someone hasn't traveled as extensively in their life as you have (or perhaps if it just hasn't lost its luster for them the way it has for you), traveling is a really fun way to achieve that change in routine and scenery.
Also, good experiences make us happier than material purchases and at least in my life, the great travel experiences (limited though they are) stand out as some of the greater experiences of my life, ones that I am happy to remember.
Posted by Amy on August 17, 2009 at 1:31 pm | permalink |
With respect to climate change, air and noise pollution as well as land use and resource depletion I think it is not a bad idea to consider getting what we think we need to get through travelling, without travelling.
Other than that, after being an expat for many years, I feel entitled to say that there are cultural differences beyond the rich/poor or urban/country line (a poor American is still different from a poor German or Chinese or East-Indian, I would say), but it is not quite possible to find those differences out in a 2 week holiday. The key to this is language. It is kind of a prejudice that average Americans (and Germans as well for example) are not really so fond of learning and using other languages. This, however, means that they will perceive every country through the stencil of their own language and of course they see them as alike then, i.e. for an American economic differences level out everything else because basically there is no other criteria for "measuring life" anymore (bad one, I know).
Otherwise I think there is still a lot of truth in the post.
Posted by Juki Schor on August 17, 2009 at 1:44 pm | permalink |
I am sure you will find people who agree with this point of view.
But how come the people who like traveling the most are the most interesting and smart ones?
I don't know you, maybe you are interesting and smart. But your blog post bored the hell out of me.
Posted by Jeff Kurts on August 17, 2009 at 1:58 pm | permalink |
Your comment, on the other hand, was really interesting and made you come across as very smart.
Posted by Billicatons on August 17, 2009 at 3:11 pm | permalink |
I don't like traveling, either. I'm so glad I'm not the only person who didn't have their world turned upside down by other people and cultures in another part of the world.
We're the same, we're different — whatever. I like my life, and find enough to stimulate my mind and perspective on the world in books, new people to meet, and new things to try in my own city.
I don't hold anything against someone who feels the need to travel to broaden their horizons, so long as they don't return to criticize everything about their former lives and places of residence.
Traveling is an exercise of affluence, not a requirement for a life lived well.
Posted by Deanne on August 17, 2009 at 2:03 pm | permalink |
Agreed.
And a pet peeve to make this comment more interesting: People who brag about all the great places they went and tell me that I *HAVE* to go there and see these things. It makes me gag.
Posted by Amanda on August 17, 2009 at 2:03 pm | permalink |
i absolutely hate traveling. when i worked in air force public affairs, i traveled ALL. THE. TIME. Pretty soon, you don't know where you are and yo don't care. all the more reason to live someplace you like or at least near people you love.
Posted by jenx67 on August 17, 2009 at 2:05 pm | permalink |
I wholeheartedly disagree with you.
Traveling to your local park simply does not rejuvenate you with as completely as a real change of scenery does. You need a clean break every now and then to refresh, reinvigorate.
Posted by fern on August 17, 2009 at 2:10 pm | permalink |
Jeez, Penelope. Fine, for some traveling is a waste of time. For others, going to work more than strictly necessary and having kids are wastes of time, but I don't see anyone throwing that in your face.
I've taken 5 international trips in the last 3 years and I learned valuable skills during them, not to mention seeing some amazing things (Masada, roman ruins in France, Versailles, the Berlin Philharmonic on fire).
It would be great if I loved my life too much to leave for 2 weeks, but you know what? After 6 months of being unable to find a job, a trip to Romania and France was a great escape from reality and a rare opportunity to see my grandmother.
Posted by Anca on August 17, 2009 at 2:25 pm | permalink |
70+ comments about world travel, and not one mention of carbon footprint?
Posted by Brad on August 17, 2009 at 2:30 pm | permalink |
I have to agree with Penelope… travel seems like a great idea until I'm actually traveling, and then I'm just tired and in pain and wishing I was home sleeping in my own bed instead.
Posted by Jacqueline on August 17, 2009 at 2:47 pm | permalink |
I agree with everything in the post. I take this from it:
Penelope is saying the TYPICAL reasons why most people want to travel abroad can be easily remedied at home. And it’s true. Most vacations are not relaxing getaways. If you hike, travel, and explore another country you’ll get home more tired than when you started.
That being said, I’m saving up to travel next year. I cherish my memories of living overseas, I remember every place I’ve traveled to fondly. I love to experience different cultures, to see new sights and sounds, and to capture all the same mundane things that show how humans are all culturally different yet fundamentally the same. I’m willing to pay for an experience, because it’s a worthwhile investment just like taking a paycut for a job that will give you more experience can be worth it for your career. I could spend $500 on an outfit and it’ll be worn out next year, I’ll be tired of it. But $500 on plane tickets is an experience I’ll never regret that will last a lifetime.
Posted by Van on August 17, 2009 at 2:58 pm | permalink |
The first time I visited San Francisco's Chinatown, I entered a restaurant at the suggestion of Fodor's. The food was OK, but it was nothing I couldn't order in Boston's Chinatown–but moreover, the patronage were all tourists who likely read similar recommendations.
A few days later, I returned to Chinatown but without a destination in mind other than to find a place to eat lunch. I wandered up streets, down alleyways, tried to find the real people, the neighborhood, and walked to wherever they walked to lunch. I found a place. A white guy, I was among the ethnic minority. The menu was in Cantonese, no English. The waiter spoke broken English. I pointed at menu pictures and used my hands to draw shapes. The food was delicious–but moreover, I felt like I was visiting San Francisco's Chinatown.
Sure, I could experience the same in Boston but that's not the point. Travel is about going to a new place. But if everyone does the same thing as you, it's not new and that's where your words are true. However, you're making blanket statements and that's why I disagree.
Posted by Ari Herzog on August 17, 2009 at 3:08 pm | permalink |
I wasn't born into a wealthy family, but my parents did make sacrifices so that we could travel and experience not only different countries, but also other parts of our own country.
As an adult, I travel when I can. Here are 7 reasons why it isn't a waste of time, from my perspective (and for my career):
1) Planes can be great networking opportunities… if you're lucky
2) If you play tourist, guided tours, museums, etc – more great networking opportunities (landed a contract job in a pub while travelling once)
3) It opens your eyes to different ways of doing things, and innovative ways to tackle problems
4) It can be a great start to learning a new language – multilingualism is often a good way to stand out in your career
5) Being in a creative field, having to navigate a completely foreign city lets me exercise a different part of my brain and keep skills in tune that I don't get to use much in my current job (and may come in handy in a future position)
6) As an introvert, travelling forces me to interact with strangers – somehow, I feel less self-conscious when it's clear I'm a tourist (it's like a built in excuse), so it's an opportunity to increase my comfort levels for when I get back to the home stage
7) New stimulates new – When I'm experiencing something new, it seems to stimulate that part of my brain that produces new ideas. True, there are plenty of new things I can try at home, but nothing compares to being completely immersed in "new" – sights, sounds, tastes, smells that I've never experienced before, or even ones that I've only experienced once or twice in my life. Combined with the knowledge that I physically cannot retreat to my comfort zones, it's an eye and mind-opener like no other.
I don't disagree with this post overall – I'm sure many share your sentiments. However, for myself, I've always had a different perspective.
For the record, I love my life, love my home, love my job, love my boyfriend, love my cat, love my family, love my friends, love my city… I'm not a morning person, so I don't wake up bouncing out of bed, but I love coffee, so I do wake up happy :)
Posted by Erin on August 17, 2009 at 3:39 pm | permalink |
I agree with this post, I have found myself thinking I would experience some deep revelations while travelling, while really my aim is to not get mugged, lost or sick.
The only addition I have is to mention the health risks associated with travelling, whether we realize it or not we take this risk on when we venture out.
Posted by Renee on August 17, 2009 at 3:40 pm | permalink |
I am really sorry that you were wealthy and worldly enough to travel internationally while growing up. I never even had the opportunity to eat in a restaurant until I was in my 20s. To me travel means the opportunity to see and try things that were never available during my formative years.
Posted by Curmudgeon on August 17, 2009 at 3:49 pm | permalink |
Hmm.
Get off the resort.
Posted by ioana on August 17, 2009 at 3:51 pm | permalink |
> How about setting aside time to think deeply every few
> days?
Why don't you try it, Penelope, and report back to us?
Posted by John on August 17, 2009 at 4:02 pm | permalink |
Penelope, this is the best example yet of why you're so stupid and narrow, and think you're so clever and smart. I'm sure you think you have nothing new to learn from traveling. But you only learn as much as you're open to. Since traveling is about being open to other things and people and putting yourself and your own show on the back burner, it's not surprising you don't get it. Narcissists generally don't.
Posted by John on August 17, 2009 at 4:06 pm | permalink |
I agree with this comment completely. Thanks John, you put it better than I ever could!
Posted by Jessica on August 17, 2009 at 4:54 pm | permalink |
I just want to say that for me, I think traveling is the most useful and broadening experience a person can have in their lives. The most boring and narrow-minded people I have ever met are those that were born in one state and have never left, not even to travel to another state (for heaven's sake)! Traveling gets you to see how other people walk, talk, eat and live, and how that is different from what you are used to. It just isn't the same if you stay in your little known-world. Well-traveled people *tend* to be more likely to speak other languages, and have more tolerance for other countries and cultures. This is of course a generalization based on my own personal experiences with people.
Posted by Elizabeth on August 17, 2009 at 4:31 pm | permalink |
One of the stupidest posts you've ever written. It just makes you seem like the stereotypical American without a passport. Number 3 is my favourite in terms of ignorance. I travel BECAUSE I love my life- I like that I have a job that means I can afford to go overseas and that allows me to take time off for other things. I have risen in my field very quickly but I'm not as delusional as you appear to be in that I recognise there is more to life than work. Travelling also makes you appreciate what you have back at home. I'm Australian and I absolutely loved travelling around the States but it made me grateful for two things in particular.
a) That we have a universal health care system.
b) That our workers don't have to rely on tips to maintain a decent standard of living.
c) That we don't have the death penalty.
I think travel would also teach you how to better relate to people (and perhaps get rid of that all-encompassing sense of superiority you seem to have).
Posted by Jessica on August 17, 2009 at 4:45 pm | permalink |
Another non-American with a similar thought to my own. As a Canadian reading this post, I was struck by how stereotypically American it is.
When I did a lot of traveling as a 20-something post-grad I was brought to tears by a couple of things: 1) how humbling it was to have my value system completely rocked when meeting people who had 'real' life struggles and 2)the sad state of many of the American travelers I encountered who approached new people and cultures with an arrogance that was nothing short of loathesome.
I know there are an abundance of American people who are worldly and empathetic, but with comments like this PT has effectively put herself in a small-minded category. I've lost a definite degree of respect with this one…
Posted by Kris on August 20, 2009 at 3:21 pm | permalink |
@Kris (from Canada): Although I don't agree entirely with the thrust of this post, I think that you may have missed one of its central tenants. As a fellow Canadian, I can say with confidence that you don't need to travel to be "completely rocked" by people's real life struggles. The challenges and conditions in many formerly resource-dependent small communities in Canada, to say nothing of the majority of First Nation communities, are enough to bring you to your knees. All the more so because a) this is so far from the experience of "countrymen" such as you and I, and b) because we are largely unaware of these realities within our own borders. The kind of economic and social disparity that is often so eye-opening in travel can be found at home too, and I think that this is an important point that PT states well above.
Hopefully this post will lead those of us who enjoy travel to reflect on why we do it, to be honest with ourselves about what we gain from it, and to work to integrate some of the benefits of travel into our daily lives. That's what I'll be taking away! That said, I don't think this post actually makes a persuasive argument that travel is a waste of time any more so than any other personal leisure activity (commenting on blogs, for instance).
Posted by EVN on August 31, 2009 at 10:18 am | permalink |
enough of what i was thinking has been said especially the first comment about this blog's strategy and that's why this is the last post i read before hitting the unsubscribe button.
oh and americans need to see the world more not less. people do relate better when they begin talking.
Posted by hamish on August 17, 2009 at 5:17 pm | permalink |
My boyfriend and I are saving money (well, probably spending a bit too much, honestly – we can barely afford it) to take a week long trip to Seattle during the holidays. This will be the first vacation we've taken together (in 4 years as a couple) that doesn't involve visiting either of our families.
Travel is nice, if you can afford it. An earlier commenter mentioned taking 6 months off to travel to India. I'd like to know how many people that's actually feasible for?
So many places in the world that I'd like to see…but know that I most likely never will.
Posted by MeredithElaine on August 17, 2009 at 5:27 pm | permalink |
Brad and Juki, you both mention the environmental impact of travel. When people speak of casually flitting off across the world, I cringe–this attitude that travelling is a right has created a carbon-belching culture that's contributed enormously to climate change (along with industry, of course).
Posted by pj on August 17, 2009 at 5:33 pm | permalink |
Broadly I agree with you, Penelope. I've always had a love-hate relationship with travel. The reason why I've disliked it you hit on hard with #3: I'm mostly pretty happy with my life, and travel shakes up what I'm trying to make into an enjoyable day-to-day routine. But I still find travel often-enjoyable in spite of the annoyance, because travel is a great shared social experience with whomever I'm traveling with.
Of course, travel is also a traumatically expensive and inefficient way to simply socialize.
Posted by Nathaniel on August 17, 2009 at 5:48 pm | permalink |
Wow. you just get better and better – and I loved your writing to begin with!
Posted by wendyrjr on August 17, 2009 at 5:51 pm | permalink |
#s 1 and 3 are not necessarily true, actually.
#4 is also not always true.
Allow me to explain.
I LOVE snowboarding. Snowboarding in Australia is increasingly expensive and marginal.
I can therefore effectively go overseas and spend less money (I am not joking) chasing the powder dragon in Canada and the US and NZ.
#3: I love my life, and adore travelling, but not for more than 2-3 weeks, depending on what I am doing. IF one of the things I love doing (surfing, snowboarding or cycling) is involved, and I have the net so I can keep my business stuff up to date, I can stay away. If not, all I want to do is get home. So, it depends on the travelling.
#4 Disagree entirely.
If you need to think, travelling intra or internationally, you can, for instance, go somewhere and unplug for a week, and surf, do yoga, whatever and just be, and think.
Cheers
Posted by Tim on August 17, 2009 at 5:57 pm | permalink |
I do not enjoy travel. For me, it is usually more trouble than it is worth. It is like a wedding day – months of preparation for a fleeting moment of what should be bliss but often ends up being stressful anyway.
The upside of travel is that when travelling, you give yourself permission to do things you wouldn't normally do. You try new things. You shop for pleasure. You allow yourself to be in unfamiliar surroundings because it is only for a finite time. We can't do these things on a daily basis in our own cities because (a) we'd feel guilty at the expense of time and money, (b)we would be afraid of being judged (go to a nude beach on vacation – interesting, go to a nude beach every weekend – creepy), and(c)we don't have the discipline to take regular time for self.
Posted by Grace on August 17, 2009 at 5:58 pm | permalink |
I read most of the comments down to Natalie, and I agree with her. You know what all this traveling has taught me? Family and friends are what's important. Not necessarily that they're all that matters, but that's pretty much the crux of why I love to travel. Sure, I like seeing beautiful places and meeting new people and hearing new perspectives and languages. But mostly I travel to visit friends. Of course, though, that begets more travel and work with international companies. Friends move, you go to new places.
Recently I spent 2 months visiting friends and volunteering my time at different projects going on in Tanzania, Morocco, and western Europe. Most of that I wouldn't have done if not for the friends I already had: open doors inviting me in. Definitely the best way to travel. Seeing the world through the eyes of locals and expats, without stepping foot into any hotel.
Posted by SaraH on August 17, 2009 at 6:44 pm | permalink |
Good bye, Penelope.
Not so long ago, I loved your blog. In fact, it was you who got me started reading blogs. Before that, I really wasn't hip on the whole blog trend. So, I owe you many thanks. Indeed, thank you, many times over.
As for reading your blogs and posts, specifically, I am done. You've become increasingly egotistical and egocentric, rather than informative and enlightening. Maybe you're stuck in a rut. Maybe you, in fact, need a vacation!
Alas, farewell. I don't need to hear you proselytize about travel — much less that you tried to give yourself a Brazilian. You're officially no longer professional, much less a professional resource.
Adios!
P.S. I don't disagree with or discount your perspectives on travel, per se. I absolutely love to travel, but it is not and does not have to be in the absence of self-exploration or local exploration. You seem to often see things as black or white, when in fact they are quite grey. In that sense, you really have a way of twisting things… Or maybe you just can't express what you're really thinking, which makes you a poor writer.
Posted by Bill on August 17, 2009 at 8:05 pm | permalink |
Well, if I had only been to the Caribbean and Europe, I would find travel pointless too. My guess is that by Caribbean you mean "island resort" and by Europe, you mean "Western Europe". Blech. That's not travel, just tourism, and Americans make the worst kind.
The funny thing about this piece is that all those things you suggest people do instead? Those who truly travel (by which I mean more than a week or so here or there) probably do those things too.
Posted by deepali on August 17, 2009 at 8:31 pm | permalink |
"by Europe, you mean "Western Europe". Blech. That's not travel, just tourism, and Americans make the worst kind."
Wow, way to dismiss nationalities, people, and cultures of an entire region! And polls show that Americans aren't actually the worst kind of tourists. We're not the best (Japanese and British), but we are far from the worst–that would be the French, except for when it's Germans or Indians. However, we do dress badly.
And how's that for stereotyping and oversimplifying?
Posted by KateNonymous on August 17, 2009 at 10:19 pm | permalink |
Deepali:
PT is 43 or so. When she was a child, Eastern Europe was not open to general tourism. She was also a young child which means she probably did not have enough context to appreciate The Last Supper or The Louvre. Her family, of her own description, has not been the kindest to her so it is hard to say she was enjoying herself in their company very much. An armchair psychologist may stretch and say that those travels have nasty associations in her head so she likes to say "all travel is bad". In the recent years, she has clearly not travelled. She has young children with special needs, a job, writing responsibilities etc so she may not be able to travel for some time. (All this by the way is public information about her, not rocket science).
That said, that generalisation about Americans is uncalled for. I would highly recommend searching "Indians rudest travellers" and look at the search results. If nothing, this post should be entertaining: http://bit.ly/1JrTpK
Why am I saying this to you? Well, because your name suggests to me that you are Indian (as am I). And I do think that seeing as we are the new pots, we can scarcely call kettles black, can we? (Yes, probably you and I are exceptions but so what? Does everyone who looks at us from a distance know or care?)
Thanks.
Posted by Shefaly on August 18, 2009 at 7:10 am | permalink |
This post is narrow minded and ignorant. I only just started reading your blog and I am not sure if I will continue. Travel opens up your mind to new cultures and experiences. It enriches the soul. You are no better than Sarah Palin who is so "worldly" because she can see Russia from her home. Honestly, I think it's Americans like you who give your country a bad name. No offense…
Posted by Tales From A Bar Stool on August 17, 2009 at 10:02 pm | permalink |
I love to travel. Correction: I love to live for an extended period of time in different locations, countries, etc. I love it because it shakes me up, forces me to confront the world in a way I don't seem able to recreate once I'm "home" (where-ever that is these days). The learning curve is so steep that I get dizzy.
I learn a lot about myself and about other people when I take myself out of my comfort zone in this particular way. I think if more people did this, through travel, or whatever other method works for them, the world would be a better place.
However I accept Penelope's point that a lot of this could be found at home. I also agree that it's important to think about why you like travelling, and then try to apply this to your everyday life. Because this is the proof that you've really learnt something.
Of course the truth is, that's hard: it's easier to run away to a new place where no-one knows you or your background. It's easier to recreate yourself afresh than to tinker away on your day-to-day self. It's easier to be open-minded, interesting and interested when you're the new person in the room, instead of among people who've known you for longer than a year and have a fuller picture of who you really are. There's a lot you don't have to face when you're still in "early relationship" phase with your home, your job, your friends, your hobbies, your city or town, your country. I know, because I've been there many, many times.
I feel sorry for people who act like travelling is the be all and end all. Because while it can certainly be a very important learning process, it doesn't in itself make you a better person. It is simply a means to an end, and there are a lot of other ways to get to that same end. It doesn't matter where Penelope has or hasn't been to. What matters is she gets this.
Because if you don't understand this, travelling is a massive waste of time and money, just a self-indulgent exercise. (Some of the most well-travelled people I know fall into this category.) This is the point I take from Penelope's post, and I think it's a good one.
Posted by Sarah Dillon on August 17, 2009 at 10:36 pm | permalink |
The best part of travel is coming home (for me).
Posted by Maureen Sharib on August 17, 2009 at 10:56 pm | permalink |
I was just thinking that – travelling, for me, is an amazing experience that allows me to at the very least see foreign architecture. At best, get to know people I never would have had the opportunity to meet, and do things I wouldn't otherwise do. It makes me appreciate what I have, not because other people are "worse off" or because of my "stuff," but because I know my life and what I've built and what I'm coming home to. Sometimes you need to step outside of it to keep from getting jaded and complacent.
Posted by Taylor on August 21, 2009 at 11:22 pm | permalink |
Ok. I agree with you on all points, but none of them convince me that traveling is a waste of time. And more importantly I would like to add the value of quality time spent in another country/state/town has always given me perspective on #1 How similar people are all over the world. Our worries, or desires, or dreams…they are replicated in every culture. Spending 21 days in Brazil with my family, staying with another family was so brilliant. We realized how similar we are across cultures and reveled in it. #2 What the great things are about my community and new things that are great about other communities. I loved having neighbors drop by from miles around, without calling or scheduling, just to say hi and have a beer when I spent 2 months on a ranch in the desert with my kids.
What a great discussion!
Posted by AmyAnne on August 17, 2009 at 11:07 pm | permalink |
Hi Penelope,
While I appreciate some of your career advice, I have to say that not only is your post factually incorrect as well as lacking in logic:
–we can meet so many international people in big American cities because THEY, in fact, have travelled
–studies have been done that prove those who have lived abroad are more creative than those who have not
But what irks me the most is that it's a dangerous post.
Many Americans share your perspective, and the United States' lack of interest in the rest of the world and its stubborn unwillingness to look to other countries to share ideas and create ties is what is keeping us behind as a nation. It is extremely upsetting to me that you would write this not so much as an op-ed piece, but as an article, like it's the gospel. It's mentalities like this that prevent us from moving forward as individuals and as a nation.
Posted by Rio Gringa on August 17, 2009 at 11:27 pm | permalink |
Well said…
Posted by Tales From A Bar Stool on August 17, 2009 at 11:34 pm | permalink |
I think your ire is misdirected, Rio Gringa, if I may be so bold. Surely the real issue is with the people who are so small-minded in the first place, that they might take a piece like this and use as it gospel or ammunition for their close-minded worldviews? I think Penelope is entitled to express her views (because that's all they are), without having to censor herself because her points might or might not be misused by a particular section of society.
The problem remains that people with insular mentalities are created and indeed fostered within American (and many other) societies. Drowning out a perfectly valid perspective just because some people might use it to further their own narrow-minded cause is surely more 'dangerous' than the fact that this opinion was expressed in the first place? I reckon that's what you need to be irked about, not PT's views.
Posted by Sarah Dillon on August 18, 2009 at 1:45 am | permalink |
Not at all, Sara. It's feeding narrow-minded people with ludicrous drivel like this that has resulted in things like the birther movement and angry mobs at health care town hall meetings. I'm all for expressing your opinion, but when it could be potentially harmful, that's when you need to step back and re-evaluate what your real intentions are. Here, it appears she wanted comments and controversy, but this is the kind of post that makes you lose readers.
Posted by Rio Gringa on August 18, 2009 at 3:25 pm | permalink |
I agree. Travel is more about taking a break from the daily routine – because the daily routine is so bad you need to take a break from it! Once a year is fine, but too much and you know your life isnt going great.
And the more I travel, the more I realise people all over the world are the same. Just the same. Only the economics differ, and the way to say thank you differs.
Posted by Dips on August 18, 2009 at 12:33 am | permalink |
A very interesting post, Penelope. I say interesting because you kind of screwed yourself over by writing THE POST and now every one of them will be compared to that one, which was truly great. So every other post kind of pales in comparison…:-)…Moving on…
1. I agree with your point #1. I think this is mostly because people have the wrong idea about what travel really is. They want to escape their reality, feel free, try new things. But why would you want to subject that to yourself only to go back to your reality? That is so unsatisfying.
2. I agree with your point #4. Travel is NOT the time to do deep thinking. Seriously, whenever one sets aside time to do deep thinking and maybe draw a flowchart of who they are, they always end up surfing the Internet or watching some stupid TV show on Hulu (okay, maybe I was projecting a little bit there). And whenever I travel, instead of doing deep thinking and writing in my journal, I invariably end up trying to find all the cute guys in sight and then flirt with any one of them.
So what is travel and is it really useless? For me, travel has never been about exploring a new country or resting. Or at least, resting has never been the goal. My friends ask me why I always max out my vacation either in Paris or Russia/Ukraine instead of exploring a new place (and then they tell me that I should go to somewhere in Europe or Hawaii or just explore a new place, to which I roll my eyes and tell them that the most fun that I ever have in my life, year after year, takes place in Ukraine, which I visit, year after year). And the reason is that travel is a way to experience a life that is also you, but that for some reason you are not able to experience every day.
Russia is me. I feel at home there, but due to circumstances, I grew up and work in the United States. But for three weeks a year, I get the chance to go back to my family, to my friends and to experience life and happiness and fulfillment and satisfaction in a completely different way, but in a completely native and soulful environment.
Same thing happens in Paris. I feel like I am one with that city when I am there and I truly love it.
So whenever I have some vacation time and my vacation fund is not completely dried up, I hurry to either Paris or Russia. Yes, I've been there a million times, but I feel so entirely fulfilled when I am there that I cannot think of any other place I would want to go. And I end up resting there emotionally.
And that is the true value of travel. To feel the place you are in, to be part of its daily life and to be happy just being part of it. And that kind of travel is truly a rest for the soul.
Finally, I am currently reading Eat, Pray, Love where the heroine does exactly this – she immerses herself into Italy, India and Indonesia several months at a time because she wants to not study those cultures, but to live and breathe them.
Posted by Irina I on August 18, 2009 at 1:05 am | permalink |