People ask me all the time how I can be so honest about my life in my blog. They want to know how I can write about marriage, sex, abortions, or running out of money over and over again. It’s an endless list really, of the stuff I write about that people can't believe I’m writing about.
But each of you has a list of things in your life similar to that, it's just a list you don’t want to talk about. I’m not special—I don’t have more stuff that is difficult to talk about. I just have more difficulty not talking about difficult stuff.
This is why.
I'm going to start by telling you that I was at the World Trade Center when it fell. I was in a post-traumatic stress support group afterward. People were divided into groups of ten based on their experience at the site—how bad things were for you that day. I was in a group comprised mostly of people who narrowly escaped the building before it fell and, as they were running out of the building, were splattered by body parts from people who were jumping out of the building.
We had individual therapy as well. Here’s what my therapist said to me: “Your childhood was so terrible that your experience at the World Trade Center was nothing compared to what you experienced as a kid. Your post-traumatic stress therapy needs to focus on your childhood.”
That was the first time I really had a sense of how bad my childhood had been. I knew everyone in the world thought things at the World Trade Center were terrible. So this must mean that my childhood was really terrible.
I was 34.
When I was five, I knew something was not right. That’s when I started therapy. I was never totally sure why my parents were sending me.
When I was seven I knew something was not right because the neighbor came over to our house when my parents were smashing picture frames over each others’ head. The neighbor said to me and my little brother, “Come with me.”
Then my memories get blurry. The next thing I remember is my high school homeroom teacher. I skipped a day of school and then came to school with a black eye and a note from my dad that said I had been sick. She said that she was not accepting notes from my dad anymore. She said I could not come back to school the next time I miss a day unless I called the police.
I don’t remember what I thought when she said that. Except that I thought, “Does she know what’s going on at my house? How does she know? I never told her anything.”
I remember the next time my dad beat me up though. I called the police and they came. Like always. And my dad said nothing was wrong. Like always. And then the police started to leave. Like always.
But then I said, “Hold it. Wait. My teacher won’t let me back in school unless I get a note from you that says I called you.”
I don’t remember what else happened. I remember the police asking me if I want to leave. I remember my mom saying, “Yes. Please. Take her away. Please.”
I went to my grandma’s to live. I spent all of high school living at my grandma’s. The school social worker spent the rest of high school trying to convince me that my parents did something wrong. My grandma spent the rest of high school telling me that my parents were completely irresponsible. Except at family gatherings. When my parents were there, with my three brothers, and everyone pretended that everything was normal and that I did not live at my grandma’s.
I don’t remember very much. I went to college and spent my time trying to sort things out: abusive boyfriends, bulimia, anti-depressants, and cutting. Getting nearly straight-A’s for a lot of the time. I sorted very little out.
I went to a mental ward the summer of my senior year. My parents visited me. They told me they were happy I was in the mental ward. My extended family visited me and they did not mention my parents. No one talked about why I might be there. My parents were anxious and loud in the family meetings: Begging the doctors to keep me from going back to their house. But even the doctors could not quite figure out why I was there: I worked on my senior thesis, I was a model patient, and I started dating a doctor right after that.
After I graduated, I moved back to Chicago, where he lived and so did my parents. I couldn’t figure out how to support myself and there were so many opportunities for me to try nude modeling jobs. The doctor thought it was ridiculous. He thought I was too uptight to model. I said I probably was, but I wanted to try because it was such good money. I said they first test you out in a swimsuit.
He said, “Don’t you need some sample photos?”
I said, “Yeah. I have some,” and I pulled them out of my bag.
The doctor looked. He smiled. He said, “Who took them?”
I said, “My dad.”
The doctor flipped. He went nuts. He couldn’t believe it.
I was mostly surprised. I had no idea that my dad taking the photos was weird.
That I didn’t know it was weird made the doctor even more upset. I remember trying to figure out why I thought it was okay. Or why he thought it was not okay.
I was 22.
I didn’t tell anyone about the pictures. I started having nightmares about having sex with my parents. I started not being able to sleep. I didn’t tell anyone though. Because I thought I was crazy.
Then my dad visited me a few years later, when I lived in Los Angeles. He wanted to go camping. I went. I was so nervous about being alone with him that I read almost all of One Hundred Years of Solitude before I went into the tent.
Then he took off his clothes, down to his underwear, and snuggled up next to me, with his arms around me and his penis up against my back.
Then I knew.
Or I thought I knew.
I slept outside the tent. I didn’t talk the rest of the time. I don’t think he even noticed.
I know the street in Los Angeles we were parked on when I finally asked, “Dad, did you do sexually inappropriate things with me when I was younger?”
He said, “Yes.”
I had no memory of what, exactly, he did. I still have no memory of it. And I was scared to ask him more. I asked my mom the same question. She gave me the same answer.
Both parents have said they were sorry. But that is not my point. My point is that my childhood was ruined by secrets.
In hindsight, so many people kept the secret: my family, the police, teachers before my freshman year. Decades later, when I asked my high school friends what they thought of me in high school, two of them told me that everyone thought I was nuts coming to school beaten up so often.
I’m not kidding when I say that I thought I was keeping that a secret.
So what I’m telling you here is that I’m scared of secrets. I’m more scared of keeping things a secret than I am of letting people know that I’m having trouble. People can’t believe how I’m willing to write about my life here. But what I can’t believe is how much better my life could have been if it had not been full of secrets.
So today, when I have a natural instinct to keep something a secret, I think to myself, “Why? Why don’t I want people to know?” Because if I am living an honest life, and my eyes are open, and I’m trying my hardest to be good and kind, then anything I’m doing is fine to tell people.
That’s why I can write about what I write about on this blog.
And when you think you cannot tell someone something about yourself, ask yourself, “Really, why not?”


thank you for your blog, your honesty, and your amazing insights into life. i agree with you, that secrets can really fuck up your life and distort everything. you are an amazing writer and an inspiration, sincerely, truen kirk
Posted by truen on 07/21/2009 at 07:22am | permalink | Reply to this comment
this is as painful as its beautiful. do you thik all of this has affected your career? and if so, would you be willing to write about it?
Posted by m on 07/21/2009 at 07:27am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Its really awesome that you have taken such a positive lesson of honesty out of this. You just moved higher on my list of favorite writers.
Posted by JS Dixon on 07/21/2009 at 07:37am | permalink | Reply to this comment
A while ago you tweeted something the farmer had said "don't tweet this" and I kept thinking all week, why would she do that to him? Dosn't she care what he wants? Now I get it. I hope he does too, but I bet he already did.
Posted by Ryan Johnson on 07/21/2009 at 07:50am | permalink | Reply to this comment
You know, I've been reading your blog thinking 'is she nuts for disclosing all this?'. But now I think you're not nuts, I think you're very sane, and very brave for facing your past. Because while my childhood was not as bad as yours, I've suffered enough and done enough work to know that the bad things stay with you, and that only by facing them and telling the truth is it possible to set yourself free. Good luck with your journey.
Posted by Quatrefoil on 07/21/2009 at 07:51am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I know too many people who have been severely physically/sexually abused who go the other route…they close up and keep everything in their life a secret. They have gotten so used to telling lies that they lie about everything as adults. I'm glad that you don't do this.
I'm not a venture capitalist, and I don't know how they think. But *I* think that if I were rich, I would fund your company through the end of time. Why? Because you are open and honest, and I believe in you.
Posted by Jay Schryer on 07/21/2009 at 07:52am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thanks so much for sharing this! I have always respected you– but now I do even more.
Posted by Jenson on 07/21/2009 at 07:56am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Well done.
Writing about careers and jobs and such is too small for you, by the way. It might (or might not) pay the bills, but that's not really your mission, is it?
Posted by Joe Fusco on 07/21/2009 at 07:56am | permalink | Reply to this comment
The honesty and candour in your writing is one of my favourite things about this blog, and the fact that it's not dry 'career's advice' or self-absorbed 'my diary' writing but something at the intersection of the two that manages to transcend them both, is what keeps me coming back. Thank you.
Posted by Lucie on 07/21/2009 at 08:02am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Moved me to tears.
Posted by Kandeezie on 07/21/2009 at 08:02am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow. Brave woman. Frankly, the simple facts that you haven't a)killed your parents or b)been on Jerry Springer is astounding. Your strength and resolve is an inspiration to me. Glad you're writing about it; who knows how many people you're helping inch out of the darkness by your willingness to be blunt, honest and forthright? Kudos to you.
Posted by Leah Weiss Caruso on 07/21/2009 at 08:05am | permalink | Reply to this comment
WOW–I am really moved by this post. Thank you for writing this!
Posted by Hilary on 07/21/2009 at 08:15am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Powerful, thank you.
Posted by Paul on 07/21/2009 at 08:18am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Holy. Shit.
The next time you're being hard on yourself because you're screwing up as a parent, please come re-read this.
I was impressed with your work/home balancing before, but to realize that you're doing it absolutely blind, with no first-hand idea of how a healthy family operates? That is freakin' amazing.
Posted by Sara on 07/21/2009 at 08:19am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I agree, your one-house arrangement for your children is incredibly stable. I too was moved to tears.
Posted by mamaworker on 07/21/2009 at 01:24pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thanks for this post.
I also completely agree with Joe.
"Writing about careers and jobs and such is too small for you, by the way. It might (or might not) pay the bills, but that's not really your mission, is it?"
I think you're limiting yourself but only you can know this. Maybe it's time to think bigger, way bigger?
Posted by Sinead on 07/21/2009 at 08:26am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I love your brave writing. I am continually amazed and shocked by the prevalence of sexual abuse in families. It seems so many women have these stories.
Do you still have a relationship with your parents?
Posted by MJ on 07/21/2009 at 08:27am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thank you for sharing all of this. I always wondered why I related so well to your thinking, and now I know.
Posted by Jane on 07/21/2009 at 08:27am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Your candor is remarkable. Your story breaks my heart, yet I am inspired – because you have survived. Thank you for sharing your story with us.
Posted by Nicky on 07/21/2009 at 08:32am | permalink | Reply to this comment
wow. i totally understand why you are so open now. I am so so SO very sorry for what you went through.
Posted by La Petite Belle on 07/21/2009 at 08:38am | permalink | Reply to this comment
While you and I have both agreed and disagreed in the past, there has always been a huge amount of respect for you on my part. Why? Because you do put yourself out there – you're real and genuine, for better or for worse, you tell it like it is, which is rare in the online world and throughout society in general. I know you care what people think of you, but you don't let outside judgment stifle your voice and hold you back. For that, you will always be someone I look up to as I continue to pursue my own blogging and entrepreneurial endeavors.
Posted by Matt Cheuvront on 07/21/2009 at 08:39am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I love you.
Posted by Barchbo on 07/21/2009 at 08:42am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Ok, so I fell on your blog by chance today and what a good intro to be reading…can't wait to read the rest of your blog!
Posted by Chan on 07/21/2009 at 08:48am | permalink | Reply to this comment
What a great post, and such a heartbreaking story. I blog for the same reason. Secrets will suck the life out of us, and have for me too, my whole life. There is no shame in the truth.
Posted by Cyndi on 07/21/2009 at 08:48am | permalink | Reply to this comment
My first thought after reading this post was how terrified I was about the comments. I was preparing myself for the horrible things people might write. I'm so relieved that everyone so far has been nothing but supportive.
It's refreshing to understand now how you came to be as open as you are. Congratulations for achieving a level of self-awareness which few people in your position have or will ever find.
Posted by Anna on 07/21/2009 at 08:49am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I had the same first reaction – heavy dread in my gut. So happy to see the positive response here.
Posted by B on 07/21/2009 at 10:03am | permalink | Reply to this comment
What Barchbo said.
Wow.
Posted by mary on 07/21/2009 at 08:53am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Nice post. It takes a lot to put your true self and thoughts out there. I always think I'm "over sharing" the details with people around me, I think I'm too honest about things I should keep private. Next time that happens, I'll think of this post and it will make me happy.
Question though – you go by Penelope Trunk but that isn't your real name, right? Why the pseudonym? Just curious as you do seem to have nothing to hide.
Posted by Me Thinks on 07/21/2009 at 08:55am | permalink | Reply to this comment
@Me Thinks
Go to the link below to get the story on Penelope's name
http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/05/my-name-is-not-really-penelope/
Posted by Anna on 07/21/2009 at 08:58am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Amazing, brutal honesty- love you for it!
Posted by Marni on 07/21/2009 at 08:59am | permalink | Reply to this comment
You are a great writer with an amazing story. Please sit down and start writing your biography. Keep it as real as you kept this post. I think you and Elizabeth Gilbert have a long career ahead of you as memoir writers and will define feminist memoirs for the first decades of the 21st century.
Please write your autobiography.
Love the blog. One of three that I anticipate and read on my lunch break with a coffee and muffin.
Posted by Jeff Allegi on 07/21/2009 at 09:02am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Holy cow. I am so impressed you wrote this. I think this kind of honesty is bad for the career and good for the soul, but I am still so glad and impressed you wrote this.
Posted by Alanna on 07/21/2009 at 09:03am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow penelope, this is an amazing post. Based on other posts you have been writing about your personal life, I wonder if a switch was flipped to share with us. Thank you. It is inspirational.
Posted by Allison on 07/21/2009 at 09:03am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thank you so much for writing this.
Posted by Laurie on 07/21/2009 at 09:20am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This is such a powerful and brave post. Thank you.
Posted by Emily on 07/21/2009 at 09:20am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Brave. Very brave.
Posted by Seguace Avido on 07/21/2009 at 09:26am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow.
I have to admit that before today, I wasn't a reader of your blog, and had only heard you mentioned here and there. But that was before today.
And before 15 minutes ago, I was trying to calm down from a screaming match that occurred in my current living situation. But this post was moving and powerful and inspiring. It immediately snapped me back into perspective and made me realize the true depth (or lack thereof) of my current home problems. Thank you for dramatically changing my morning, my day, and possibly my consideration of conflicts in the near future.
I know it's been said in about 30 other comments, but you really are a brave, strong, and uniquely open person. I'll just say that you have one more pair of eyes watching this blog and your writing with anticipation.
Thanks again.
Posted by Preston on 07/21/2009 at 09:44am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think it's kind of comical how in previous posts (specifically the abortion one) you had all sorts of negative comments, telling you you're selfish, going to hell among other things, then you write this and there is nothing but praise. Just goes to show, NO ONE ever truly knows ANYONE ELSE'S whole story… which is why other's opionions of you really don't mean a damn thing. That being said take this worth a grain of salt but I think you and your posts are f*cking awesome.
And remember what a famous Dr. once said, "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
Posted by J on 07/21/2009 at 09:45am | permalink | Reply to this comment
i second all the supportive comments above. may i ask how your brothers fit into all this? are they doing well and recovering like you?
Posted by samantha on 07/21/2009 at 09:46am | permalink | Reply to this comment
J, I second your comment. Isn't it interesting how we can throw all sorts of insults at people — and all that changes when we have a look inside their soul, and find out they're human, just like us?
Posted by Alexis Grant on 07/21/2009 at 09:51am | permalink | Reply to this comment
You are so right. If you feel like you have to keep something a secret, something isn't right.
Also secrets always come out anyway. Trying to keep things hidden is futile, and makes things worse in the long run.
Posted by Kimberly on 07/21/2009 at 09:53am | permalink | Reply to this comment
You are a hell of a writer, and thank you for sharing your thoughts with your readers. That's why this blog is in my can't-miss "Desert Island Feeds" folder in my RSS reader.
Posted by Sheila Scarborough on 07/21/2009 at 09:56am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm so, so sorry for everything that has happened to you. I have nothing substantive to add, just another voice saying that I respect your honesty and your skill as a survivor.
Posted by DT on 07/21/2009 at 10:00am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thank you for sharing your story! I admire your courage.
I often struggle with how much to share via various social media outlets. My religion plays a large role in my life, but I'm often hesitant to write about it because I'm afraid it will affect future job prospects, etc.
I recently decided to start sharing it more openly because it is such a large part of who I am. Authentic communication takes courage, but it paints a more accurate picture and gives valuable insights into motivations, etc.
Posted by Adrienne on 07/21/2009 at 10:00am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, you inspired me today.
From the day I stumbled across your blog a few months ago, you have been one of my favorites. Many people write intelligently, some write compellingly, but few imbue their posts with the intense humanity you do.
I think I'm beginning to understand why.
I'm sorry for the secrets that ruined your childhood. Mine was worse than many, but I remember all of mine. I can't begin to imagine how bad yours must have been to not even remember.
I applaud your courage, your determination, and especially your willingness to share your journey as openly as you do.
Many have noted that our pasts make us who we are. That's true, but I believe that our experiences also contain gifts for others. It isn't our job to decide what from our story is meaningful to others, but we have an obligation to offer our stories to the world.
Thank you for writing this post. Thank you for being yourself. Thank you for being.
Posted by Todd J. List on 07/21/2009 at 10:04am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Shit Penelope! Thanks for the inspiration to be brave this morning.
Posted by Carly on 07/21/2009 at 10:04am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow. That was courageous. I hope you get the healing and peace that you seek. I know you are no stranger to therapy and even support groups. Here's one that has literally changed my life, although I'm doing it in Dallas, not in WI.
http://www.celebraterecovery.com/?page_id=101#city1319
Posted by Brownit on 07/21/2009 at 10:06am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Brownit, your language and delivery is vicious & life-denying. Offering unsolicited pseudo-psychiatric analysis to others is more about yourself and what responses you'd like to generate, than about being genuinely empathic or helpful.
Posted by Christy on 07/23/2009 at 06:01pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Please. Your "sharing secrets" has nothing to do with your "fear" of secrets. As you mentioned before and now, you are a nutcase. Now, regardless of the fact whether you are a nutcase because you were abused by your parents or due to some other factor, you need to recognize that you sharing your personal details in public is also a part of your nuttiness.
To be technical, you appear to have a personality disorder. There are many kinds of personality disorders. Very simply put, people with personality disorder appear and exhibit normal behavior but act abnormally – towards self and others – when under stress. You (and your readers) will recognize this pattern in you – you reveal really personal details when you are under stress / feeling low self-esteem (yes, self – esteem is a feeling too!).
The general reason is that you haven't learnt a constructive way of dealing with stress. The specific reasons behind this depends – maybe you feel vulnerable and you want empathy from others but don't know how to ask for it. You may also want someone to "rescue" you. After all, by revealing your personal details, you get 1) attention (who doesn't like it? In your case, it probably artificially boosts your self-esteem) 2) Sympathy (you are unconciously being manipulative – hoping somebody pity's you, comforts you and offers helps to "rescue" you).
I purposefully chose to be rude here because you need a rude awakening and need to recognize this pattern and not continue to reinforce it.
Next time, when you feel the urge to share your personal details, try to identify what triggered it – what made you feel stressed / vulnerable. Then go ahead and share the personal details (nobody expects you to be able to stop cold turkey) but also keep in mind the trigger, and if possible, find a more constructive way to deal with this.
I also recommend working with a good cognitive therapist – check here: http://www.academyofct.org/Library/CertifiedMembers/Index.asp?FolderID=1137 .
Note 1: And for God sake, don't just go to a therapist to hear his / her insightful thoughts which you regurgitate as some blog post in some fancy way here so that people can go – "Wow, that was insightful – she is so smart!" (attention is addictive and as destructive as any other addiction).
Note 2: And don't berate me saying I don't know a f**k about you. You are the one who has revealed your personal details here for everyone to "understand" you.
(And don't say "you don't know f**k about me" – you are the one who shared all those personal details).
Posted by Yawn on 07/21/2009 at 10:15am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Are you kidding me?
Talking about things online is a VERY constructive way to deal, especially given the other options (I let you think about those; since you've sat through a psychology 101 course you probably know what they are).
I agree with you that your comment was rude, though.
Posted by Dree on 07/21/2009 at 01:40pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Well aren't you smug. "Yawn" is a great way to describe yourself.
Posted by Brenda on 07/21/2009 at 11:30pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Disagree, we're only as 'sick' as our secrets…
Seems I've heard something somewhere about people living in glass houses.
Posted by Kirk on 07/23/2009 at 08:15am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I see you appear here anonymously. Very brave of you to be so bold and keep your identity "a secret" (not!)
Methinks you might have some projective identification (desire for attention) going on which you can't acknowledge.
Penelope, I was one of those people who, when asked how their childhood was, replied, "Oh, like most I guess." How wrong I was, but normal for some of us is not normal.
Posted by Diana on 07/23/2009 at 01:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
'projective identification (desire for attention)'
FABULOUS! WHAT SHE SAID!! :)
Posted by Kirk on 2009-07-24 09:46:30 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
Mr./Ms. Yawn, Don't you get that after what she has been through, so-called social norms don't mean dick any more?
And I don't say this in a rubber-glue sense, but you really ought to turn your supreme psycho-diagnostic powers inward.
Posted by Andy Pels on 07/23/2009 at 07:18pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Yes, there is such things as personality disorders. However, I am going to make a giant leap of faith and assume you are not a doctor(if you were, I would be worried about your compassion for your patients). While I am not either, I am a medical student and have just learned about personality disorders. By definition, they are not something that comes out just under stress, but are something that invades a person's whole life. Normal people, however, can have symptoms that resemble personality disorders while under stress, which is within the range of a normal stress response. There are alot of psychiatric terms that are misused to the point that the doctors have to come up with new ones, partially due to the stigma that comes from misuse by the media and others. While I am sure you don't actually care, I wanted to present the facts.
Posted by Erin on 10/08/2009 at 03:18am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thank you for the moving post today. It made me think quite a bit about the parallels of growing up in an alcoholic/drug addicted family where secrecy and denial are paramount. Like yourself, I am missing entire blocks of memory, punctuated with fight scenes. I blocked the drama out so that I could also be a straight-A overachiever. After erupting into panic attacks in my early 20s and seeking therapy, I too walked away from keeping secrets, and I have never been happier. Best of luck in your continued journey of self exploration, it never ends.
Posted by Jessica on 07/21/2009 at 10:16am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Insightful perspective, Penelope. I've read your tweets and sometimes have thought you go overboard. But after reading your story, I get it. I lived one of those secret lives. My mind also protected me by blocking out childhood memories. So it's weird when I hear people telling vivid stories of their childhood–good stuff, fun stuff–and I remember very little of that. My memories are more like your frying pan story. It's also the reason I share my secret stuff as well. Never thought of it as fear though. I've done it because I learned it wasn't healthy to keep secrets, that secrets beget more and allow bad things to continue happening. Life deserves to be about good things. If sharing TMI makes other people feel awkward, they don't have to listen. To me, if sharing secrets is going to help turn obstacles into opportunities, then that's a good thing. The secret's out. Thanks for sharing your perspective. It will open eyes.
All my best,
Jackie
Posted by Jackie Dishner on 07/21/2009 at 10:20am | permalink | Reply to this comment
penelope, thanks for sharing. Your honesty inspires me.
Posted by Hanah on 07/21/2009 at 10:26am | permalink | Reply to this comment
You need to put a trigger warning at the top of this entry.
Posted by Brina on 07/21/2009 at 10:30am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I couldn't keep track of how many times I said "OH MY GOD!" when I read this post. What happened to you was every bit unacceptable. I don't know how but I hope justice is served.
I agree with the comments above, this blog is too small for you. You can be this generation's Oprah. I wish you all the best and all the love in the world.
Posted by Hamimah Nordin on 07/21/2009 at 10:32am | permalink | Reply to this comment
You're my hero.
Posted by Tracey on 07/21/2009 at 10:36am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think I speak for everyone when I say that poster "Yawn" is a freaking tool. Small comments from a small troll.
How about you stop reading this blog and go sort out your own crap?
Cut the girl some slack. Sheesh.
Posted by Randy on 07/21/2009 at 10:37am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow. That moved me to tears too. I had no idea you came from a background like that. I'm so sorry. That's horrendous.
Thank you for being so open. I grapple with that issue on the internet all the time, and usually end up not sharing. I figured it would open me up to some sort of attack by all the people who hate me. You are so brave.
I've always wondered about that with your blogging, and now I get it. Much admiration!
Posted by dori on 07/21/2009 at 10:38am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Holy shit! Dr. Phil reads your blog (under the pseudonym Yawn)!! I love technology these days!! You can get diagnosed with a mental disorder via blog comments. God bless America.
Posted by Awesome! on 07/21/2009 at 10:38am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow. Very brave post, Penelope. Kudos to you for having the courage expose all of this horrible baggage to the cleansing sunlight. I'm a pretty tough guy, but I don't know if I could be as brave as you. I think if I went through this, I'd wind up just burying it down deep and living it in quiet shame. You're an extremely brave woman for having the courage to discuss this publicly.
I hope you don't take offense here, but I have to admit: although I ostensibly read your blog because it's about startups, frankly the real reason has been because your blog is a bit of a soap opera. I guess I've kept tuning in because I keep thinking "Man, what nutty thing is that woman going to write about next?!?!?"
But today I'd like to apologize. I realize now that there's nothing nutty about this at all. Your blog is a catharsis, a way to heal yourself from all the wounds that have been inflicted on you, by facing everything head on, in public, and having the courage to talk about them to the world.
As I said earlier, I apologize and I applaud you. You're a much braver person than I.
Wishing you happiness and peace in your future,
DR
Posted by DAR on 07/21/2009 at 10:47am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Jesus H Christ Penelope. I'm amazed you are at all functional given your childhood. A very good friend of mine was also abused as a child by both her mother and father and still struggles due to it. If telling people all about your life helps you to move through and past this, then do it, regardless of what your critics have to say.
Posted by Jeanmarie on 07/21/2009 at 10:47am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This is @unfunn from twitter. Thanks for having the courage to honestly post about your life. I also suffer from PTSD, and had a similar situation remembering something horrible that happened to me as a child that I forgot about until age 23. The consequences of growing up in an abusive household are hard to overcome. I am also very honest for the very same reasons. Thanks for sharing.
Posted by Jenn on 07/21/2009 at 10:55am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I don't always agree with your opinions but I always think you're the bravest writer I've ever read for being able to put it all out there. It takes real insight to analyze such painful experiences and understand the multidimensial effects on your world. A lot of people never get there. I applaud you for sharing this story along with the many other personal facets of your life.
To Yawn: It takes more than a Psych 101 textbook to understand someone's inner workings.
Posted by DK on 07/21/2009 at 11:02am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This is amazing. You are amazing. Survival of abuse is nothing to be sneezed at. I think my friend said it best — abuse is something you just get through to get out. There's no time to examine, to complain, to mourn. You just do what you need to do. You put one foot in front of the other. You keep going and going until finally, when you realize on some level that you're free, you collapse under the weight of what you've endured. But that's a good thing — the realization that now it's okay to collapse. Now, you're safe and warm and fed and loved and no one will hurt you. It's horrible to break down and face it, but you did it — you surivived. I hear you. I've been there. That's why I have to be so honest, too.
Posted by Naomi Munn on 07/21/2009 at 11:04am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Sometimes I wonder how honest I should be as I write about my life. I figure some details are too hard for others to read. My writings go into stand-up comedy, which actual has a formula where: more universally painful = big laughs
Thanks for reaching out: definitely doesn't feel like you're trying to sell me something. Except that transparency is good.
Dishonesty about (potential) weakness/instability comes down to status and reputation, no?
Posted by caj27 on 07/21/2009 at 11:10am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow – your writing just gets better and better. You are so brave. This is why I keep reading your blog.
Posted by astrorainfall on 07/21/2009 at 11:12am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thank you for being so brave + open. For those of us who have experienced similar life situations, it is inspiring to read such a blog post. You are my hero.
Posted by Avatar Koo on 07/21/2009 at 11:20am | permalink | Reply to this comment
there are no words, other than I have so much respect for you and all that you share. Thank you…
Posted by anne on 07/21/2009 at 11:24am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I grew up in a basically healthy home. Sure there was yelling and the occasional spanking when I was younger, but for the most part, normal.
Whenever I read some doctor blame someones actions on childhood issue, I often discount that doctor. I think the reason for this is because of ignorance on my part. After reading your post today, I think I am willing to listen a little closer when someone blames their childhood and not so quickly think of it as just an "excuse".
Thank you.
Posted by David on 07/21/2009 at 11:27am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Adults are responsbible for their own actions, regardless of their childhoods. Childhood abuse is not an excuse for bad behavior as an adult. Responsible adults realize that something isn't right because of events they cuoldn't control as children and seek help. Getting rid of the shame associated with abuse is one way of exorcising those demons.
Posted by Cyndi on 07/21/2009 at 11:40am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, you rock.
Posted by Brad on 07/21/2009 at 11:37am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I completely understand why you'd be afraid of secrets as keeping secrets clearly enabled much of the abuse you suffered to continue, even though keeping the abuse secret clearly wasn't its cause.
The best thing about routinely revealing intimate details of one's life for all to see is that it encourages one to behave in a way they can be proud of, not ashamed of.
One final point: we shouldn't judge others for what happened to them, but rather for what they do (and not even for that–judging behavior is one thing, judging the person quite another. We're all human beings deserving of compassion).
http://www.happinessinthisworld.com/2009/07/19/the-true-cause-of-cruelty/
Posted by Alex @ Happiness in this World on 07/21/2009 at 11:51am | permalink | Reply to this comment
My stomach is in a knot after reading this post.
Agreed, secrets can be dangerous both at work and at home. Honesty is important…but it's easier said than done.
I could not help thinking how lucky your staff is to have you as their mentor. Your life experience is amazing. Keep going…
Best,
C.
Posted by Claudia, OC, CA on 07/21/2009 at 11:56am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I have been reading your blog for quite a while, used to live in Middleton,WI but now I am in Silicon Valley. Don't know how you came on my radar, but was pleasantly surprised about your posts regarding the decision to move to Madison,WI.
This is probably the best blog entry that I have read from you and this shows all your other blog posts in a new light. For a while I kind of wrote off your blog since I felt most of your personal posts related to your dating life were more to drum up traffic than anything else. I am touched by this blog post.
Posted by Sunil on 07/21/2009 at 11:58am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thank you for giving a voice to all the women out there — both successful and those still finding their ways — who had crappy childhoods.
It's nice to have someone speaking candidly about their past who isn't the stereotypical "crazy chick." And I hate that phrase, "crazy chick." Ugh.
Posted by MReneeBuckley on 07/21/2009 at 12:00pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thanks for sharing. Transperency is healing and empowering. Ironic that I work in public relations.
Posted by Jen on 07/21/2009 at 12:15pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
God, Penelope. This is amazing. I had no idea. I am so sorry that this happened to you, but I am so proud of you for being such a figher, your whole life. Keep going. You are extremely inspiring!
Posted by Irina I on 07/21/2009 at 12:17pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
you're brilliant, insightful, hilarious, open, brave, striving … and you're here. thank god. thank you.
Posted by shelly g on 07/21/2009 at 12:18pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Holy crap.
Well, no wonder your approach to risk-taking and everything else is so different.
I hereby retract (almost) all the unkind things I've said about your previous posts. You are coming from a totally different place than I am, and your decision-making clearly reflects that.
By the way, do you realize how remarkable you are? I hope someday your children do.
Posted by Tzipporah on 07/21/2009 at 12:22pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Dont you never, ever stop writing. It`s to precious.
Eduardo Di Lascio
São Paulo
Brazil
Posted by Eduardo Di Lascio on 07/21/2009 at 12:27pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I meant "too precious".
Posted by Eduardo Di Lascio on 07/21/2009 at 12:28pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am beyond words of what I want to say right now, I have to echo everyone's comments and thank you for sharing- this piece has really moved me and really changes how I think about you and this blog.
Posted by Patrick on 07/21/2009 at 12:32pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I have been reading and commenting on this blog for over a year and a half now and my only regret is I didn't find you and this blog sooner. You are inspiring, thought provoking, and many other good things. I hate that your childhood was ruined by secrets. I think you have overcome much more than your fair share of life's hurdles and I have a better understanding of your understatement of 'life is hard'.
I'd like to comment on this statement above – "So today, when I have a natural instinct to keep something a secret, I think to myself, “Why? Why don’t I want people to know?” It is a natural instinct for me to keep some secrets. I do question myself on the why I may want to keep something a secret. However I also question why a person may want to know something. I think it really comes down to the specifics of the 'secret' and its impact on my life or other peoples lives. I think it's something we all wrestle with every day. In real life I am a straightforward and honest person and ask the questions I think many other people are thinking but not asking. The answer or non-answer as the case may be is very telling.
Enough for now and look forward as always to your blog posts that I feel compelled to comment.
Posted by Mark W. on 07/21/2009 at 12:41pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thank you. Your words are touching and have helped me sort out my own insecurities about being honest with others.
Posted by Catalina Hidalgo on 07/21/2009 at 12:44pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I was physically shaking by the end of this blog post. Wow!
Posted by Kelley on 07/21/2009 at 01:07pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Oh my dear god. I have read your stuff off and on since 2000. I remember the first time I felt so excited to find you. Such a sense of a person who also suffers from keen perception. And such an amazing writer. The voice is heard inside. None of this matters. Only that I believe your voice is the sound of a person saving themselves against terrible odds. I wish I could take care of you. Only I imagine you knife those who care for you to death.
Posted by LPC on 07/21/2009 at 01:10pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
When unfortunate things happen I often ask 'What did you want me to learn this time God?' and I get my answer. I say that to preface to iterate that things happen for a reason and all those experiences shape the way we operate in life from that point forward. I commend your blog love your outward pouring of thoughts, that has got to be therapeutic, and can't wait for the next one P. -CDay
Posted by CDay on 07/21/2009 at 01:11pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thank you for writing this important piece. I have learned so much about business, money, and life from your blog, and I keep coming back because of your absolute honesty. I love that their is no BS in this blog, and I love that you are able to express yourself with such freedom. I am so sorry to hear about what happened to you, and am so proud of you for taking a stand against secrets, especially in the family. I admire you so much for your honesty and for breaking down the walls that hold people in. You are such an inspiration to myself and so many of the other women in my office. Take care and be blessed.
Posted by Mary Ferrara on 07/21/2009 at 01:25pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
I have a two year old daughter and she means the world to me; she is the most precious person in my life and I love her more than anything. Right now I just want to envelope you in my full embrace, like I do to my daughter, and tell you that I love you and that you're safe and that everything will be ok. I am sorry this happened to you. I wish I could have been there to protect you. Because through your blogs you've helped me and many others I'm sure. I think you're a beautiful person inside and out and incredibly strong. Thanks again for sharing.
Grace
Posted by Grace B. on 07/21/2009 at 01:28pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I echo the comments about how moving this post was. Connecting back to the usual subject of the blog, a comment and a question:
No wonder investors believe in you: if you can overcome what you have in your life, dealing with the challenges of a start up seems much smaller.
Also, do you know if there is a pattern with many successful serial entrepreneurs having overcome challenging childhood circumstances? Anecdotally I've heard many stories of people arriving with nothing as a refugee, living on the street to escape abuse, or overcoming situations akin to your past and having founded very successful businesses. But I don't know if they are the exception or "part of the rule."
Posted by Wendy on 07/21/2009 at 01:40pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
I just want to give you a hug. No one should have to go through that stuff. I'm sorry you had to.
I'm glad you are able to talk about it and hopefully work through it. You are so strong.
Erin
Posted by Professional Resume Writer on 07/21/2009 at 02:11pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Powerful…
I remember my Mom waking up with 2 black eyes.
I asked my 6th grade buddies,"Doesn't everyone's parents fight every now and then?"
Look forward to more passionate writings.
RAS
Posted by Ron on 07/21/2009 at 02:15pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
It's good that you are honest and brave in facing your past but I don't understand why you would write this stuff on your blog.
As far as I understand, you use this blog to bounce ideas about careers as well as to market yourself as a speaker and an expert on careers. So why disclose this info about your childhood? Do you think it makes you more attractive to customers? Keeping secrets can hurt you, yes, but that doesn't mean that you should jump to the extreme of putting every uncomfortable truth about yourself on the internet.
Posted by Selim on 07/21/2009 at 02:17pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Imagine the teenage girl who is living this nightmare right now and doesn't realize it isn't normal. Imagine how reading Penelope could open her eyes.
Penelope's transparency might very well save many lives.
Posted by avant garde designer on 07/21/2009 at 03:13pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Great post Penelope & thanks for being brave enough to share such intimate info. What I wish to hide is not as heavy as your confession but I still can't seem to let it out. I guess my image is what holds me back. Not necessarily what others will think but more so what I think about myself in relation to it. It hurts to feel this way but I think it would hurt more if I was given validation of my feelings by someone who was not there & could not possibly know what I'm going through. But I understand your point & the one person who knows everything & who needs to know is my hubby. Dislcosing your info to total strangers, although admirable, is not required to live in an honest life.
Posted by Tiffany on 07/21/2009 at 02:18pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I love you.
I love you for your honesty. I love you for your bravery. I love you for your drive. I love you for the inspiration you offer. I love you for not keeping secrets. I love you for sharing your past. I love you for giving so much of your self to others.
But really, I love you because you are you.
This is not intended to be mushy or woo woo – I'm not mushy or woo woo. I am just really moved by this post and feel nothing but love.
Thank you
Posted by S on 07/21/2009 at 02:24pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I very much agree with S on this one.
Posted by Irina I on 07/21/2009 at 02:51pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Yes. Exactly. Thank you. It is almost exactly my reasoning, as well.
Posted by Zoeyjane on 07/21/2009 at 02:27pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I can't wait for your parents to get backlash from this post. They totally deserve it. As a mother I know the most important job I will ever have is to take care of my children. I hope your mother hears my contempt for her and my judgment that her life is a failure because she failed on the most basic level. I can only hope she, and your father, lives in a private hell where their mind is not shielded from the memories and the knowledge that the consequences of their actions will follow them for all eternity.
Posted by ASH on 07/21/2009 at 02:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I've started reading your writing when you were at Yahoo Finance. I've disagreed with about 60% of your career advice over the years. And obviously this post isn't about career advice. Everyone is fighting a battle, as the saying goes. It's a beautiful thing when humanity is revealed.
Posted by Kim on 07/21/2009 at 02:34pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thank you for writing this. It was really moving. I can relate to a lot of what you said. Secrets have a tendency to hurt more than they help. Your honesty is truly refreshing. So many times, victims of abuse are afraid to speak up for themselves, because what they experienced was so shameful.
My parents were never physically or sexually abusive that I can remember, but they are both really messed up. My mom has emotional issues and my dad has a serious temper. I did drugs and partied a couple of years as a teenager to deal, then sobered up, read a slew of self-help books, got a BA in psyc and now am finally in long-term therapy. I'm not exactly ok yet (which would be why I'm in therapy), but I've worked really hard to overcome my parents' problems and be responsible for my own separate issues.
I had that conversation with my parents on different occassions and they said nothing happened. Whether anything happened or not, I don't remember anything, other than a few mildly inappropriate moments or suggestive comments. Other than the fact that my dad's presense makes me feel uneasy sometimes, things are relatively normal as an adult.
For awhile I was convinced he was a pedophile, but now, I really don't know what to think. I finally came to the realization that all I can do is accept where I am in my life and try to work through my my own issues. I can't do anything about who my dad is. I can't spend my life second guessing myself about what may or may not have happened. I honestly don't know if anything ever happened or if he just has a personality problem/bounderies issues. I have no evidence that anything ever happened to me (or anyone else) and I have no memories of it either.
However, if I do have kids, I am suspicious enough about his behavior, that I would not ever leave them alone with my dad. Maybe he's not a pedophile, but I would never forgive myself if he actually is one and then something happened. Since he has made me uncomfortable as an adult and there were a few incidents when I was young, I feel warranted in taking precautions to make sure that there is never a chance for anything to happen. I've always wanted to be a mom and I've worked with kids, so I have a really strong, protective mama bear instinct. Maybe it's just me and it's all in my head, but I would much rather be safe than sorry.
You are really brave. Much love to you for being such a great mom and for breaking the cycle. Having fucked up parents is no easy life. Especially when everyone around you is complicit in their silence. I do believe it is complicity when there were people who knew you were suffering and remained silent. Breaking the silence can only be empowering. I heard another woman's story this past weekend and I didn't know what to say to her. But maybe I didn't need to say anything, because as she told her story, she was exposing the lies and secrets. That is what is really empowering- when you don't have to hide what someone else did anymore. Like you said, as long as you are living a good life and doing right by others, then you have nothing to hide. Sharing your story can only help others who are struggling to deal with the same issues. You didn't do anything wrong, your dad did. He's the one who should be ashamed of himself.
Posted by anne on 07/21/2009 at 02:35pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I have only been reading your blog for a month or so now. It's one of best written and most intelligent I've come across. This post was so unbelievable that i kept waiting for a punch line where you said, "Surprise! It was all a joke."
My childhood was also not a bed of roses, though i didn't experience abuse; it was more like gross negligence. Still, i can relate to many of the things you say. The perfectly happy nuclear family might as well be a UFO, I understand it so little.
I only i could reach across cyberspace and give you a big hug.
Posted by fern on 07/21/2009 at 02:47pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
98 comments and only one single negative, which was roundly derided by the following commenters. That says something about the raw power of this post, Penelope. BTW, I'm seconding Tzipporah, she beat me to it. You had me at 'this is why'
Posted by prklypr on 07/21/2009 at 02:55pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
I always read you; sometimes agreeing with you, sometimes not, and often times thinking you're way off the wall. Now I get it.
What I really admire about you is that you're not using childhood as an excuse for life. In some ways, you remind me of my dad.
My dad had a crummy childhood too. He doesn't talk about it much but when the bits and pieces come out it, it makes me sad. Yet, he never feels sorry for himself. He's gone on to lead a phenomenal life and he's a wonderful parent to his seven children.
One of the best things my father did was teach me about a loving God. No matter who I am or what I do, I know I'm God's child and in his grace.
Penelope, so are you.
Posted by sophie on 07/21/2009 at 03:02pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
That was one of the most powerful things I have ever read. This will stick with me for a very long time.
I completely agree that family secrets cause an unbelievable amount of destruction. I once had to blow the lid off a family secret of my in-laws in order to save my marriage. While they pretend like nothing ever happened and never discuss it, I suspect they'll never forgive me. And I don't give a shit.
Posted by Casey on 07/21/2009 at 03:15pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thank you for sharing this. I had a friend in high school who had a similar experience and she felt so alone. I hate what you went through but am glad that others can read and know that they are not alone.
Posted by Bethany on 07/21/2009 at 03:21pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow. You have quite the story. Bravo to you for overcoming and making something of your life, including a home for your children, despite every excuse you could have used.
Posted by Deanna on 07/21/2009 at 03:22pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
For the first time reading your blog I have total respect for you.
Posted by Mimsey on 07/21/2009 at 03:32pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Impressive post. I'm speechless.
Posted by F on 07/21/2009 at 03:47pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
It makes me so mad when people assume that a religious 50's fairy tale of a family is the national standard. Especially when that assumption is used to justify the removal of structures that help people at the expense of what for many are insignificant details.
Maybe if more people told the truth the word would get out that terrible things really do happen, and it is a part of life. Maybe then we could get on to trying to recover rather than deny and blame.
I think that on the internet, where people can share their stories anonymously, or at least more easily with many people, issues that used to be never discussed are finally seeing the light of day. Our issues with sex and drugs and violence and all the rest can bing us together rather than holding us all apart. I honestly believe that it is modern communication that makes a single country as large as the United States possible. People don't care about people they don't relate to. But sharing like this takes us beyond labels of region or belief and political view straight to what what makes us human.
Posted by Laura on 07/21/2009 at 04:09pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
I'm sorry you had to live with these awful secrets! You are brave to confront your past. My best friend was abused by her dad (he was also my friend). Her mom, her boyfriend and whoever else she told kept the secret. I promised I'd tell everyone until someone listened. He ended up going to prison. I don't know many of the details because frankly, I couldn't handle hearing them. For a few years I had to get over hating or being suspicious of fathers when I saw them with their daughters.
Reading this I'm filled with compassion for you. Many times I haven't understood why you write certain things or your choices. I have much more insight into your world.
Blog on,
Janet
Posted by Janet Meiners Thaeler on 07/21/2009 at 04:41pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
The readers seem to think that this post explains who you are and why you write? (i.e. all the 'now i get you' comments)
What if you write so openly because it's fun, engaging, entertaining and you're good at it? Why does it have to be attributed to therapy, validation or a cathartic experience? Maybe you're just an extremely open, honest, writer with a knack for blogging, who doesn't like secrets because you know first hand how dangerous and hurtful they are. Fine if this opened the eyes of your critics… but more than that, this post encourages your readers to be more open in their own lives. IF they are leading the kind of life they can be open about. Write More.
Posted by Suzanne on 07/21/2009 at 04:59pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Now I'm worried that being an entrepreneur is a way for you to avoid writing as much as you should. And I say that with heart-felt sympathy for the investors, customers and employees who want you to succeed. Creating a company is marvelous thing, but creating a new level of understanding that can help thousands of people relate to one another with more clarity and support–now that's really a gift you can't waste. Please write as much as you can.
Posted by Theresa Quintanilla on 07/21/2009 at 05:08pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
You explained this in a way I've never been able to. I grew up in an extremely chaotic household and lost the parent I was closest to at 14. All my other memories are spotty. I unnerve my friends and acquaintances with my frankness. Now I even understand my need to be brutally honest.
Posted by LynnE on 07/21/2009 at 05:18pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
What a post. I am speechless.
Posted by Annie on 07/21/2009 at 05:41pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thank you so much for sharing your story. I guess I am not crazy after all. I share everything about who I am and what's happening in my life. Sometimes I embarress my self for how much I am willing to disclose. But I know why I do it. I too was sexually abused by a parent, and I too was hurt more by the family secrets than the actual abuse which I also have fague memory of.
Thank you for making me feel ok about being me for whatever reason. Secrets Suck.
Posted by Lisa on 07/21/2009 at 05:44pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Painful to read yet beautifully written. Utmost respect for you and your work.
Posted by wendyrjr on 07/21/2009 at 05:59pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
F*cking Sh*t. That's all I could think as i read your blog with my mouth hanging open.
Thank you so much for sharing this window into what drives you, what makes you tick. If only everyone had this level of awareness.
Posted by J (the usual one) on 07/21/2009 at 06:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
One of your best posts ever and a huge improvement on the last one. Thank you for your honesty and for being so brave.
Posted by Jessica on 07/21/2009 at 06:45pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
wow.You are brave and honest and amazing to post this..
I understand….
Posted by Terry Vermeylen on 07/21/2009 at 07:04pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Simply amazing. Thanks Penelope.
Posted by Kelly on 07/21/2009 at 07:30pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
No idea what to write…just wanted to let you know your blog has put all of my recent employment struggles in a new light.
You are an inspiration to all. Thank you so very, very much for being so open. You absolutely rock. And that's no secret.
Posted by jd on 07/21/2009 at 08:29pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Up until this point, I was kind of turned off by the whole "If you don't go down on your girlfriend/wife, you're a terrible awful lover/man/boyfriend/husband etc… " and "Women – if you receive oral sex you're twice as likely to become a Fortune 500 CEO" etc… stuff.
I love my mom, I love my wife, my only kids are daughters, so believe me when I tell you I revere the female gender. But I was picking up the whole "I AM WOMAN!!! HEAR ME RAWR!!!" vibe from the posts I'd read in the past. And I've always thought, "C'mon, that ship has sailed – everyone has opportunities, just go out & grab the brass ring & focus on the positive…"
But now that I hear what an awful – and I mean GOD AWFUL – childhood you had – I have nothing but compassion and respect. Who was looking out for that little girl when she was being hurt?
I have 2 little daughters, and I'd literally throw myself in front of a bus to keep either of them from getting hurt. And I bet almost every other parent reader here would do the same (including yourself.)
The fact that you received anything less than that is a travesty, and I have a newfound respect and admiration for you going forward.
God bless.
Posted by Bernie E. on 07/21/2009 at 08:44pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm so sorry…
I think your parents should be taken to court for what they've done to you.
Posted by ioana on 07/21/2009 at 09:19pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hm. I would second the "trigger warning" idea.
Must be the eclipse or something today. I was talking with a colleague at work, and she asked out of the blue if I'd had a difficult childhood. THAT's putting it mildly.
I'm puzzling over why that makes me more blunt or direct, especially as I get older. I think I agree with your premise, that secrets caused problems then, so directness must be better, now.
Thing is, not everyone wants all that honesty. But, I can always skip the post. Where I work, it's not appropriate, really (despite my kind colleague). I guess blog-land is the best place, to find honesty, as we know it.
Anyway, from a fellow survivor, best wishes.
Posted by Yvette on 07/21/2009 at 09:52pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
wow…
Posted by Ms. Mama on 07/21/2009 at 09:54pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I've always thought writing was a brave act. Once your pen or fingertips start moving, you just don't know what will come out! This is why I have such a tremendous amount of respect for you. Writing is scary and raw and real and life! Words are life! And you live life. We should all follow in your footsteps and just LIVE.
THANK YOU for being you and making your readers think twice… About everything!
Posted by Nishawn on 07/21/2009 at 10:02pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thank you. Just… Thank you.
Posted by Caroline on 07/21/2009 at 10:03pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm getting here a little late. I read through all the comments, and am uncertain if I have anything new to add. I'd just reiterate what everyone else has said about what a great writer you are – how brave you are – how your risks give others the courage to tell the truth, if only to themselves. I also had two overwhelming thoughts: 1) I bet you're a great mother and 2) Dump the farmer for not holding your hand at the fair. =)
Posted by jenx67 on 07/21/2009 at 10:05pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow. One of the best personal blog posts I've ever read.
Posted by Lance on 07/21/2009 at 10:12pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Your blog finally made me click on the "RSS" feed button to add to my Google Reader. I've been trying to avoid subscribing to RSS feeds for forever now. this post was inspiring and heartbreaking, but honest and I love honesty.
Your writing is amazing and I love how down-to-earth you are. No BS. keep it going, i'll keep reading.
Posted by Jackie on 07/21/2009 at 11:52pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I've read this post 5 times now. I've forwarded it to my best friend during the middle of my billable-hour work-day. I'm currently thinking about how (if I can) I'm going to link to it in my next post.
Very powerful stuff.
Posted by biting tongue on 07/22/2009 at 12:28am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I cannot resist reading the blog feeds that drop in the mailbox .. But this one really touched the raw nerve. It requires some heart and guts to state what you blogged .. Well there are 2 shades of personal and professional details to be shared. In professional , I always state that I have record number of failures which taught me more than the success would have.
But you sharing the personal one .. Maybe as a catharsis it works better perhaps. But is it necessary ? Yes maybe on second thoughts because your blog readers wish to know you for what you are and not for the perception that one creates.
Well I admire you more again when last I exchanged notes for the job that you had applied for a nude model !! Was it you who shared that experience ? That's was a real candid and honest one.
I am based in India .. Bye for now
RK Dhanvada
Posted by RK Dhanvada on 07/22/2009 at 12:56am | permalink | Reply to this comment
you rock.
I always wondered why you were so honest. Now I know why and have even more respect for you. The thing is that the world is full of people with stories that they 'think' they are keeping secret when most of the times – everyone in the class knows.
Posted by sharma on 07/22/2009 at 01:45am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Secrets own your life – they engulf and overshadow everything else you try to be and do. Sharing your true self with others – the good, the bad, and the truly ugly – is the best way to reclaim your life, your voice, and your power. And you're absolutely correct that most people see the truth behind the masks we wear when we're trying to keep secrets' silence.
I so appreciate your blog in general, but today I am thankful that you were able to thrive in spite of all your trauma. I'm gonna share this post with my clients who are still struggling with their own secrets. I hope it helps you to know that your honesty today will help many others be honest tomorrow.
Thanks again for openly, consciously letting us see the true you.
Posted by 911 Doc on 07/22/2009 at 02:53am | permalink | Reply to this comment
As a regular reader, I have constantly been awestruck by the honesty (and quality) of your writing. Although you talk about how being open is actually a much healthier course to take than always keeping secrets, it is, nonetheless, not so easy to bravely bare one's soul. As a former children's social worker, I can attest to the tragedy foisted upon kids when they have to bury their experiences of abuse. I'm sure this column will provide a needed venue for those who have had similar experiences, as well as those who keep many aspects of their lives hidden.
Posted by adriane schuster on 07/22/2009 at 03:17am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thank you for this post.
I has a childhood almost exactly like yours. Got sexually abused by my father over and over again until i realised what was wrong. You put it so well when you sayed you asked your husband ¨dont all fathers do that??¨ and about the don´ t ask, don´t tell atmosphere existing in the family.
The worst part is that you suffer more as you get older, realising all the things that where wrong. Those things can eat you inside out. You realise you are really fucked up.
I truly admire your courage.
If you may have a regret that you shouldn´t have posted this i tell you the sacrifice was worth it for US who know this things and can´t tell it to anybody.
Thank you for helping so many people. You are truly beautyfull.
Posted by mario on 07/22/2009 at 04:12am | permalink | Reply to this comment
dear pt – you are an amazing example of the elasticity and stamina of a human being. everything you have accomplished and still will, and most amazingly your positive and curious outlook on this world. i wish you a complete healing.
Posted by ayelet on 07/22/2009 at 05:02am | permalink | Reply to this comment
And here I thought Michael Jackson had a tough childhood. Therapy must work. If you can survive and give your children such a stable life, kudos to you.
Honesty helps the next person. If you can write about this experience, you're helping the person who may be going through this. Someone may be reading this and thinking… "That's not normal? huh?"
I'm glad you had a teacher who was on your side.
Posted by Bobbi on 07/22/2009 at 05:22am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Lie back, daughter; let your head be tipped back in the cup of my hand. Gently, and I will hold you. Spread your arms wide, lie out on the stream and look high at the gulls. A dead-man's float is face down. You will dive and swim soon enough where this tidewater ebbs to the sea. Daughter, believe me, when you tire on the long thrash to your island, lie up, and survive. As you float now, where I held you and let go, remember when fear cramps your heart what I told you: lie gently and wide to the light-year stars, lie back, and the sea will hold you.
~~ Philip Booth
I think God is always closer than we realize, especially those who have endured horrors, even as that seems an impossibility. How could He be close and not intervene? I don't know that answer, but still, I know He is close.
You are courageous and strong. Survive. Thrive. Use any means that helps healing.
Posted by Doug Erickson on 07/22/2009 at 05:29am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow. Thank you.
Posted by timb on 07/22/2009 at 06:27am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Pretty amazing post, thanks.
Posted by Todd on 07/22/2009 at 06:38am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Yeah I think I have a pretty similar approach to speaking out myself. I also suffered abuse as a child and would much rather everything was out in the open. I am honest to the point with my kids where I wouldn't even lie to them about santa claus (though after a long discussion with my husband I did agree to keep my mouth shut until they worked it out themselves).
Posted by Carol on 07/22/2009 at 06:45am | permalink | Reply to this comment
1. Power of Disclosure
Your post reminds me of what a psychiatrist named Andrew Morrison wrote in his book, "The Culture of Shame", about the power of disclosure:
He called self-disclosure "one of the principal methods of healing shame."
While the details of your past may seem scandalous, they don't hold power over you, do they? Your power, your authentic inner self, lives in truth.
2. Not Knowing What to Feel
While the sexual and physical abuse were awful enough, a special, sinister abuse is the way your family acted like nothing was wrong. You were a sweet little child whose emotional needs weren't fulfilled, so you never really learned how to process your emotions. Your proper response would have been pure sorrow, but this was stifled. Your emotions were negated. It was like you had no right to feel your own emotions. I suspect you went for years and years just not knowing what to feel. I know what's that like.
3. Grace
I don't see your posts as narcissistic pleas for attention. Rather, your sharing of your experiences could help other folks who are struggling with self-acceptance. Or as U2 would put it, "Grace makes beauty out of ugly things." Did your publisher give you a middle name? "Grace" would be a good one. "Penelope Grace Trunk." Has a ring to it, no?
Posted by ed on 07/22/2009 at 07:26am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thanks for this comment, it was both thoughtful & thought-provoking.
Posted by Christy on 07/23/2009 at 06:14pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I've long been drawn to your blog, but never quite sure why. You rarely seem to say anything truly remarkable, but you always say it exceptionally simply and well. (A subtle mark of genious, btw.) Still, I've always sensed you *did* have remarkable things to share if I just waited things out. Now we know that's true. God bless you (and be sure to pat yourself on the back every day) for all you've overcome.
Posted by Cord Williams on 07/22/2009 at 07:39am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I don't know what to think after reading this post actually. What a horrible childhood, I can think of nothing worse than being abused by the very people who are or should be in the world to look out for you. Just curious, how did you think people would react to this post?
PS Just read a great book call "What Happy People Know" by Dan Baker. If you ever feel a need for a pick me up give it a read.
Posted by malcontent7 on 07/22/2009 at 07:55am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I've got so many thoughts streaming through my head right now I hope I can make this coherent. Many people don't understand that when you're a child and you're in a situation and that situation is all you know that you don't know it's weird or wrong. I was sexually abused as a little girl by my grandfather, and when I talk about it now as an adult people ask me why I didn't tell and I say "Because he told me not to". It wasn't until I was a teenager and he had died from heart disease that I understood what had been happening. No matter how hard I try now, twenty years after the first time he touched me, I still can't tell my family. I see the way friends look at me when I tell them and I can't bear to have my family look at me that way, with all that sadness and pity.
Thank you for this. For being so honest, open, and simply poetic about it. Thank you for letting thousands of people know that they're not alone. I always felt so isolated. It's really terrifying to realize that things like this are much more common than people think.
Posted by Jenn on 07/22/2009 at 07:55am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Awesome!
Posted by Suzy on 07/22/2009 at 07:57am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This is awesome. Thank you for your courage and honesty. Yay you!
Posted by Xiomara on 07/22/2009 at 08:17am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This has got to be the best blog I had ever read. I found you trough a Facebook link from one of my friends. I am soooo linking back to you on ActiveRain. The Club Chaos crew is going to love you. Enjoy your day, sweetie. Regards, C.
Posted by Carolyn Tann-Starr on 07/22/2009 at 08:19am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hi Penelope
I've been a long time reader of your blog, and bought your book to help my career.
This is the first time I've commented.
Thank you so much for writing this post. For your courage. It's moving, touching and from the context of your blog as a whole, it's inspirational.
I've recently come out of an abusive relationship, and it's made me realise my childhood may have something to do with it too.
Posted by Lisa on 07/22/2009 at 08:28am | permalink | Reply to this comment
wow. wow. wow.
Posted by Jenni on 07/22/2009 at 08:43am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thank you Penelope. You're my hero. <3
Posted by phillygrrl on 07/22/2009 at 08:58am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This post is incredible. Oh my, what you went through and able to write about it…good for you. Your honesty and writing brought tears to my eyes.
Posted by Rebecca Gaujot on 07/22/2009 at 09:03am | permalink | Reply to this comment
you need to put all this in a book. let me know if need any help finding an agent.
Posted by Rick Smith on 07/22/2009 at 09:08am | permalink | Reply to this comment
It is personally liberating to free ourselves from secrets and take the energy that we otherwise devote to hiding our secrets and put it to more constructive efforts. I totally get what you're doing. Something powerful happens when we tell the impeccable truth about ourselves. This truth is something I suspected as I wrote my book about apology. Now I know it to be true. Apology is also about letting go of our struggle with history.
Posted by John Kador on 07/22/2009 at 09:10am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I was very touched reading this post. You are a rolemodel for anybody who had a crappy childhood – people can overcome it and still be successful.
Posted by Betsey on 07/22/2009 at 09:16am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I was emotionally blown away when reading this. You are a very courageous woman that is setting a great example for authenticity. I am sorry you had to go through what you did, but your experience is now helping many.
Posted by Ellen on 07/22/2009 at 09:17am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This was a phenomenal post. I have been wondering how is it that you share all these things on the net with people you don't necessarily know. I was inspired by your shares in the past to do some of my own, and yet found it extremely hard to do so. This article answered my questions and got me there. I thank you so much.
Posted by inna on 07/22/2009 at 09:26am | permalink | Reply to this comment
inspired. truly inspired.
Posted by brooke borton on 07/22/2009 at 09:31am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thanks for sharing this. Its a really powerful story.
Posted by [dave] on 07/22/2009 at 09:36am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow, were you going off the saying "honesty is the best medicine?" Thank you for being brave, and helping many who have gone through this. Love your writing.
Posted by Diane C. on 07/22/2009 at 09:41am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This explains absolutely everything. It will make reading your posts much more complete.
Do you remember anything from One Hundred Years of Solitude?
Posted by ZoZo on 07/22/2009 at 09:44am | permalink | Reply to this comment
The worst thing is when you think everything is allright and then everything fall down.
You inspire me a lot, I'm trying to follow your advice, I know what "terrible" means.
Posted by Ivan Rositas on 07/22/2009 at 09:46am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow – posts like this are why I read your blog and will continue to do so.
Posted by Ian on 07/22/2009 at 09:56am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm crying. Secrets destroy lives and you are very wise and brave to know that. Your writing makes me love you. I hope you can finally feel that now as a mom and more importantly, just as you. That you're lovable and worth loving and protecting, finally.
Posted by Joselle on 07/22/2009 at 09:58am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I've always thought it was okay for you to talk about all the things you talk about on your blog: money, family, sex (mostly hilarious), business… that's why I read it for christ sake! It's a great story, interesting and relevant to the business you run and the people you are trying to help. Don't ever let anyone make you feel weird for doing it that way. I love it, I look forward to all of your posts.
Posted by Whitney on 07/22/2009 at 10:36am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hey P, You've alluded to some of this before. I'm so sorry this happened to you, and I can relate to it personally on some level as I too had a difficult childhood and have wondered how much is appropriate to tell people. I think it's a great topic for a WSJ column, actually. Let me know if it's okay to use a few excerpts from your story here.
Best,
Alexandra Levit
http://www.alexandralevit.com
Posted by Alexandra Levit on 07/22/2009 at 10:49am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Yes, I shed some tears reading this article, but by the time I was finished a new emotion took place: admiration. I admire Penelope for living an "honest life" as she put it… I think of it as a "brave life" as well. So much we can all learn from her story. Thanks for sharing Penelope!
@kickofftopic
Posted by Karmen on 07/22/2009 at 10:50am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
I have read your blog for a long while now, and like all good blogs each article, even if I don't agree with it, makes me think (and articulate why I don't or do agree). But today I have to comment on your and thank you for your candor and great articulation about a difficult topic. Too often we try to hide these things under the proverbial carpet, but you have nothing to be ashamed about.
Keep it up, I'm really glad you got your funding so you can keep things going, and have a ((((penolope))))
Simon
Posted by Simon on 07/22/2009 at 10:54am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I don't have anything great to say, so I will just say thank you. PS – I have no clue how you plan to beat this!
Posted by Laurin on 07/22/2009 at 11:11am | permalink | Reply to this comment
The truth always sounds the best. You cannot fault people for exposing the truth; you can only admire them. So glad I read this.
Posted by Katrina on 07/22/2009 at 11:25am | permalink | Reply to this comment
With a title like "Brazen Careerist" how much of this is being 'honest' and how much of it is used 'to drive traffic'? While it is a powerful (and well written) post, I'm not sure how this helps "young people manage their careers". Yes, you have many followers, but perhaps you should take the blog in a different direction?
Posted by Will at Virtualjobcoach on 07/22/2009 at 11:29am | permalink | Reply to this comment
If you don't understand how abuse shapes your career and your life, you really don't get this blog.
Our work and our lives are not separate. Penelope is a writer. So what and how she writes is how she manages her career.
I'll take real job (and life) coaching from Penelope over "virtual" job coaching any day.
Posted by Joselle on 07/22/2009 at 12:52pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Beautiful, moving. This moved me to tears, it was frightening to read. You are a powerful writer and person. Thank you for so courageously, so wisely sharing your story. I love your articles, I just think you are so funny and smart and refreshingly frank. Bravo.
Posted by Christine on 07/22/2009 at 11:32am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I too went to live with my grandma after an episode of physical abuse from my mother and it was my grandma who said that if you always tell the truth, you'll end up in exactly the place you need to be. So I too have a relentless disrespect for anything that is not entirely forthcoming. If discreteness is the better part of valor, I don't want any valor.
Posted by John Feier on 07/22/2009 at 11:38am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm sorry. I never knew how to be the friend that you needed all those years ago and I still don't know how to be the friend that you need now. I want to keep trying though. Don't you give up either. :)
Posted by LaurenMonday@5 on 07/22/2009 at 11:38am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I truly appreciate the honesty of your writing. Hallmark of a great writer.
Posted by Bunga on 07/22/2009 at 11:46am | permalink | Reply to this comment
YIKES! Is all I can say.
Reading this was like watching a train wreck – you want to turn away but it is impossible.
Is interesting that so many people said thank you for sharing your thoughts. I wonder why? Do you know all of these people?
Posted by Steven Pofcher on 07/22/2009 at 11:55am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow. I really admire you, Penelope. You're amazing. Too bad you don't realize how amazing and what an inspiration you are.
Posted by Amy on 07/22/2009 at 11:57am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Reading your posts is like listening to a close friend… thank you for sharing and opening up your life to us.
Much love and respect, Renee
Posted by Renee Watson on 07/22/2009 at 11:58am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Very moving and brave piece. Thank you for writing it.
I too grew up keeping secrets, in my case a violet family, so I really appreciate you sharing your thoughts.
It's helped me greatly.
Posted by K on 07/22/2009 at 12:10pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm going to echo a lot of the previous comments and say that I'm impressed with your bravery and fortitude. Your ability to reflect and learn from your past and present, and incorporate that into how you live your life is pretty amazing. You're an inspiration to me and to others who read this, and the advice is applicable a plethora of situations. Thank you for your honesty and for sharing your experiences – it helps me to deal with some things I'm going through and gives me more courage than I had before.
I have been reading your blog for a few months now, and I look forward to reading your future entries.
Warm regards, Tomás
Posted by Tomás on 07/22/2009 at 12:20pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I recently discovered your blog, and read your abortion piece with interest, because I to have had abortions. When I went back to your blog a week later, I thought to myself lets see what this chick is going to confess,and why how/why does she do it with such harsh honesty? You answered my question,and have turned me into fan,your courageous.
Posted by leesa on 07/22/2009 at 12:28pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm so glad there are almost no negative comments here. I know you read the comments, so even though I have nothing original to add, I'm commenting to add my voice.
This is a phenomenally honest post, and you are so brave for writing it. Holy crap really sums up my reaction.
And yes, I would love to read your autobiography when you're ready to write it. But of course it begs the question — who would play you in the movie version?
Posted by Carla on 07/22/2009 at 12:43pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Your writing is truelly an inspiration to many, the world can learn a lot from such honesty and i do believe u have the courage of a saint to come forth and share these experiences.
Posted by http://www.fidelitylocksmith.com on 07/22/2009 at 01:12pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hi. I never get a string of 200 positive comments. So I recognize this is a special post.
It's hard to see yourself how other people see you. But a comments section is maybe good for that. And I am so appreciative of all these comments. I knew I would get a lot of comments. But I never thought they would be so kind, and insightful, and, frankly, helpful.
The comments are my favorite part of blogging. Thank you so much for all of these. I've read them all. Probably many more times over than you'd believe.
Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on 07/22/2009 at 01:19pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Beautifully, powerfully brazen.
I have never felt so much admiration and affection for a complete stranger. But, there is nothing strange about you, Penelope. You are sublimely human. And divine.
What would have paralyzed most, you turned into a launching pad… for flight of a galactic nature.
The help and healing you provide goes way beyond careers. For your courage and transparency, I give you my deepest thanks.
Thanks, also, to the thoughtful community here. At my writing, there are nearly 190 comments. I read many of them, and the kind, empathic responses were nourishing to read.
Posted by Erika Harris on 07/22/2009 at 01:28pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
wow. mouth agape. your post is the most heroic and brave piece of writing i have ever read in my life. thank you for sharing such a personal chapter of your life. it's already inspired me to readjust my cover letter and explain the secret (a health issue, which is now in remission) surrounding a "gap" on my resume. It's been difficult trying to explain/hide the gap in my career progression, which every career counselor I spoke with told me I had to do if I ever wanted to get my career back on the fast track – screw them; I'll settle for maintaining my dignity by telling potential employers the truth and taking the slow track.
thank you.
Posted by michael on 07/22/2009 at 01:33pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
This is one of the most powerfully human posts ever written. My heart aches for you and also rejoices that you are able to function. I think the paramount difficulties you have faced and your honesty about them brings all of us who read your blog closer together even though most of us don't know each other. It helps us all cope with our human experience.
Thank you.
Dave @ mygenx.wordpress.com
Posted by David Anderson on 07/22/2009 at 02:17pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Im a 26 yr old male that doesn't cry often, or near at all.
Reading this brought a tears to both my eyes.
Thank you.
-Brad
Posted by Brad Thom on 07/22/2009 at 02:18pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
This reminded me of a Frank McCourt's recent passing and an interview he did, talking about how he had such a hard time for decades, getting over his anger. Your writing reflects a similar honesty – just what happened, straight up. My childhood was full of secrets – my parents were scientologists and we lived in a commune while I went to public school. I was an outsider on both sides. I've always "secretly" known that's why I have a hard time blogging/writing in my own voice, despite the fact that I do a considerable amount of writing. I discovered how to share the truth in my 30s and went from an introvert to a very much happier extrovert…The truth brings you deeper into the reality of your own life. Happiness can only be real.
Posted by Kathryn on 07/22/2009 at 02:48pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I have always believed that everyone has a story to tell, but not everyone will let their guard down and tell it to the world. The world is a better place with your story in it, and I can only hope to aspire to your level of frank, honest and open communication!
Keep up the fantastic work.
Posted by Kim Mosher on 07/22/2009 at 02:51pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am a man, but I had a similar past. My father used to routinely beat me. I was sexually abused by a catholic prieest who was supposed to be counseling me after I ran away from home at 14.
The bottom line is that it made me a better stronger man because how I dealt with it. I felt like if I could take what I was subjected to as a kid, there is nothing in this world that will scare me.
I am now a marriage, relationship and sexual coach. I recently dealt with a young woman whose father had sex with her every night from the time that she was 5 until she was 17. When she went home for her father's funeral, I urged her to confront her mother over this because mom knew what went on and kept the secret. Once confronted, the mother hung herself in the garage. All the progress I had made with the young woman went by the wayside over the guilt that the mom laid on daughter for forcing her to confront her ugly part in the abuse.
My message is that you need to get help dealing with abuse issues in your past. I am not saying that to just you, but all who read your post and maybe experienced similar abuse.
Posted by John on 07/22/2009 at 03:29pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
I agree with the positive commenters about your bravery for writing this post. It really is sad and my heart breaks for you, a suffering child ruined by adult evil.
That said, I hope you will take my next comment as honest feedback.
You recently posted about when people should lie at work, saying "Everyone thinks transparency and authenticity are great. But sometimes you need to rein them in."
I am struggling to reconcile your advice in that post with this post wherein you say "…anything I’m doing is fine to tell people."
I believe that you are healing yourself with your personal posts, but I also wonder how your brothers (and their families) feel about your candor and how this revelation will affect their lives? (Or your children in a few years?)
I think that this post is valuable and you needed to write it, but I am not so certain it needed to be broadcast. After reading it, I am left with a feeling that you struggle with boundaries and therefore anyone in relationship with you will be in conflict with trusting you with their privacy.
I agree secrets can be destructive, and I would add that breaching confidences is also damaging to relationships. Your personal story was powerful, and I don't want to take away from it. Even so, I would have liked to see stronger advice for a post titled "how to decide how much to reveal of yourself" than "secrets are bad".
Posted by kristi on 07/22/2009 at 03:37pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Interesting thoughts.
I have to admit, I wondered how Penelope's brothers fared during childhood. Did they suffer abuse too? Did they know what was going on with P? If so, what were their thoughts on it at the time, and what are they now? How have they coped, as adults? How are they, as parents?
Penelope, how is your relationship with your brothers today?
Posted by rennie on 07/22/2009 at 06:03pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Now I feel dirty. I feel like one of those sub-humans that decide that they'd rather film the family in the burning car than put down their GD video cameras and help them. So at the risk of being 'flamed' I must say that this post goes well beyond 'over-sharing'. Was anything really added to the message by detailing what your father tried to do on the camping trip?
I hope I am wrong, but after thinking about it for a while, this post seems to be more of a 'cry for help' than a cathartic post. There was a very insightful post among all the 'I cried' responses about getting help. You may really want to consider that.
Again, I hope I am wrong,
Will
Posted by Will at Virtualjobcoach on 07/22/2009 at 07:04pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Agree wholeheartedly with this comment. Is this the best venue to posting such info?
Posted by Mickey Van Roo on 07/23/2009 at 03:08pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I love the honesty in this story. Our minds and hearts work in miraculous ways being able to block certain memories from our life.
I don't like to keep secrets either, because I feel everyone needs support. If something should be hidden, then one shouldn't be doing it.
Love your strength and keep shining!
Posted by Tanya on 07/22/2009 at 03:47pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"How to decide how much to reveal about yourself?"
I think it depends. For me, I'm not comfortable to reveal myself or my life.
Posted by Hamming on 07/22/2009 at 03:48pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, I've been thinking about this post since I first read it yesterday. This gave me the extra dose of inspiration to be totally awed by you and your writing: I finally decided to try to find your master's thesis, which I will thank Google and luck for helping me find. I've been so curious about reading your pre-PTrunk work because I have this weird feeling that we are very similar thinkers.
Let me just say, your hypertexts are PHENOMENAL. I don't want to "out" your work since I don't believe you've directly linked to it from here, but just know that all the pageviews on that other website are from a very loyal reader who hopes to meet you again and have a cocktail with you.
I'm sorry your life includes a string of dismal experiences, and I hope you continue to heal by sharing your stories. While I don't share most of your experiences, I often think I'd interpret them in the same way that you do and its nice to know there's someone out there on the same page.
Posted by M on 07/22/2009 at 03:49pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Your honesty, courage and outspokenness encourages, inspires and (frankly) amazes me, Penelope. I hope you have learned what a wonderful, rare person you are…and appreciate yourself for it. Clearly, so many of your readers like me welcome your wit, candor, creativity, wisdom and determination into their lives. I mean, just look at all those comments! Thank you, Penelope.
Perhaps your blog should be retitled "Fighting Spirit!" because you embody such strength, and as you've shown repeatedly, nothing can keep you down. Ever.
Posted by DeanLA on 07/22/2009 at 03:51pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I believe someone commented earlier with Holy. Shit. I 2nd that.
I love your honesty and 'brazen' attitude about life. More people need to get real. Thanks for the great blog posts and insight you give people. Your 9/11 post was absolutely amazing. I remember watching that nightmare on television holding my 6 month old son and feeling that his future was going to be very unsecure. You truly inspire people to hang tough and I thank you.
Posted by Jeff on 07/22/2009 at 03:58pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
You're pretty inspiring and amazing! I think you're a good person and I enjoy reading about your views. Thank you as always for sharing.
Posted by Marissa on 07/22/2009 at 04:07pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
You are an inspiration to me. Inspiring action and disciplined creative writing for healing.
Posted by jodimode on 07/22/2009 at 04:49pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Insightful honesty. I found your blog recently and have been hooked. Your honesty and candor draw people. Thanks for sharing!
Posted by David Richards on 07/22/2009 at 05:22pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Stunning piece. Raw and articulate and inspiring. Thank you. Be well.
Posted by Mark on 07/22/2009 at 06:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
My God. Really, thank you. You have in fact given me the strength and reason to continue to disclose the horrors of my own childhood and beyond. Part of it…an excerpt…lives on the shitty Facebook. I shall have to to move it to a blog. Nobody believes it. Neither do I. But it's true all the same.
You inspire me.
Posted by Ken Wolman on 07/22/2009 at 06:52pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hang in there, sweetie. You are strong — a survivor and an inpiration.
hugs
Posted by Kimmi on 07/22/2009 at 07:36pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow, what a story. I applaud you for figuring out that for you, you need to not keep secrets. I'm sorry that you went through such a tough time. This is just another example of our childhood's amazing ability to eff us up.
Posted by Holly on 07/22/2009 at 07:51pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Big (((Hugs))) for what you have had to endure and also for sharing this with us.
I was sexually abused my entire childhood by my uncle, brother, grandpa and babysitter. I repressed it all. It came back to me in my early 20's and I've been on a battle to heal ever since. It's horrible that this had to happen. And the secrecy behind it is unbelievable.
Posted by Yaya on 07/22/2009 at 07:56pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, I'm always impressed with your blog but today you really amazed me.
Thank you for bringing these deeply personal issues into a forum such as this.
Posted by Jade on 07/22/2009 at 08:22pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, do you realize that Jesus said something very similar to your message at the end of your post?
"And this is the judgement, that the light has come into the world, and people loved darkness rather than light because their deeds were evil. For all who do evil hate the light and do not come to the light, so that their deeds may not be exposed. But those who do what is true come to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that their deeds have been done in God."
-John 3:19-21
Posted by betsy on 07/22/2009 at 09:00pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hi Penelope
I read about your your blog form David Rendall's Freak Factor. It is amazing that you are so transparent.
Joseph
Posted by Joseph Joel Sherman on 07/22/2009 at 09:49pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
as did I – thanks David
Posted by Kirk on 07/23/2009 at 09:23am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, since I started reading your blg, I've wondered why I'm impressed by you and what you write. After reading this entry,I know.
Posted by Walter on 07/22/2009 at 09:54pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm blown away by your honesty. Any time I thought to make a judgement on your life or choices has been reconsidered in light of this post. I hope I can do this with everyone I meet — I'll have to remember that we all walk in our own shoes and many of us are actually trying to do better every day. I wish you the very best of luck with everything you do and I'll be looking forward to your next post and the one after that, and the one after that.
Posted by Michele on 07/22/2009 at 10:39pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Well. I was going to try to write something profound, but there's really nothing else to say, is there? I hope all is as good as it can be. Thanks.
Posted by Eric on 07/22/2009 at 11:06pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
This is why I read this blog.
Posted by Eve on 07/22/2009 at 11:28pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Ok, this might be over the top, but…. I've read your blog over the last year because of posts like this. Somehow, you manage to take all your frayed edges, hang them out there, and spin them into these humane meditations. Though I started reading you for career advice, I keep coming back because your blog reminds me of who I want to be as a person.
Posted by Scott on 07/22/2009 at 11:32pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your honesty. I suffered, too, and became a counselor to help others. Now I want to write like you did about secrets kept, telling them, and getting freedom.
You have been through so much pain and hurt. Look how you have inspired over 225 people who have written to encourage and thank you.
You are amazing. Keep writing. Keep healing.
Posted by Socorro on 07/23/2009 at 01:22am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope's post here made me take a step back and revisit the concept of 'online transparency' and how revealing personal details of your life in your online writing can either help or harm you. Penelope, while all of us may not agree with everything you have to say, I don't think that's ever been your intent. Rather, it's about speaking your mind, not holding anything back, and letting people interpret it (for better or worse) in their own way.
Your 'reveal all' method is rare in the blogging world. It's interesting to me that so many hold themselves back and are 'afraid' (for lack of a better term) of the consequences being TOO transparent can bring.
I posted a 'mini-podcast' response discussing this issue and would love for all of you to share your own experiences. Penelope, kudos for the inspiration once again. http://www.lifewithoutpants.com/podcast/how-transparent-are-you-online/
Posted by Matt Cheuvront on 07/23/2009 at 06:45am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thanks for sharing your story. This was very powerful and you have my highest respect. lil
Posted by Lil on 07/23/2009 at 09:05am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I sit here crying as I read your story. I can not believe someone so talented has had to suffer so much. Thank you for sharing and please continue to write and inspire.
PS
Your Dad needs to be jailed and counciled – god forbid he do something disgusting and evil to a new generation of bright little girls – he needs help sadly more than you ever will because you are strong and clear-mined – you keep writing and inspiring.
Posted by Cathy Davenport on 07/23/2009 at 09:55am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
You are even more amazing than I can imagine. Thank you for shining your light into my darkness.
JC
Posted by JC on 07/23/2009 at 10:44am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I feel as I know you personally. I too, was a victim of sexual abuse as a child, although my mind has let me forget alot, I wish I could open up as you have. I admire you 110%!
Posted by Kim on 07/23/2009 at 12:25pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I hope your life is a happy one now.You certainly deserve it.I hope you spend the rest of your life in peace and happiness.
Posted by Nadine Amore on 07/23/2009 at 12:30pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
And again, I feel better when I read your blog. I am and am not crazy it seems.
I love that you wrote "I just have more difficulty not talking about difficult stuff." Until today, I don't think I could sum up why I am so honest with people but this is a great explanation. Thanks – J in Seattle
Posted by Jacqui on 07/23/2009 at 01:24pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, my heart goes out to you. Everyone deserves to have a happy and healthy childhood, yet it is far too often not the case. I really enjoy your blog and have been reading for quite some time.
You should be proud of yourself for the person you are today. You are extraordinary.
Posted by JB on 07/23/2009 at 01:42pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow. This article could not have come to me in a better time. I’ve recently come to the realization that I too went through some serious hardships at the age of five. I unknowingly blocked them out. These past experiences have impacted the quality of my life and romantic relationships. Recently, my instincts have told me to open up but I worry about lingering on the negative. Moving on is important. I now think it’s healthy to address old issues but convey it in a positive, productive and thoughtful manner. Thanks for your validation Penelope.
Posted by Derek on 07/23/2009 at 01:47pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I had shivers running up my spine as I finished reading this. You've alluded to your unhappy childhood before, but I had no idea it was that bad. You seem to have overcome it to an amazing extent, which is quite inspirational, which is not to say you don't have emotional baggage (as everyone does).
I agree with Tiffany above who says that sharing everything with strangers is not necessary to leading an honest and secret-free life. Not everyone would opt for such publicity and that's okay too. That doesn't mean there's anything wrong with your decision to be open about your life – clearly you get something out of the sharing, and hopefully your readers do too. I know I do – that's why you are one of my favourites in my RSS feed.
Posted by Caitlin on 07/23/2009 at 02:14pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Everyone has a story of what makes them who they are. I tell that to my wife all the time. I'm not surprised by your story at all, this stuff happens in America (and the world) every day.
I was glad to find your blog recently, you talk about things in the open that people are so skiddish to talk about. And the commentors who have berrated you on the posts about sex, abortion, etc, need someone to teach them that their small world view, "conservative" opinions based on zero personal experience, and a boring safe life not in tune with the real world. (I also find it funny how they keep coming back to read more…) You are writing about the human condition, not the fiction we're fed from television, magazines, and the MSM. Thank you for that.
For all the posters who are surprised, I'd be willing to put money on the fact that you know someone right now who has had this happen to them or it is happening to right now. Hopefully you will be more vigilant now and into the future when those people silently cry and pray for help. Be their silent angel (like P's teacher) and help push them out of those situations if you can.
On another note, I am sorry this happened to you. The good thing is you are still alive to tell the story some children are not so lucky. I find nothing more disgusting then irresponsible adults feel the need to take their personal power issues out on children and/or spouses. But then I remember that I need to take the angry energy of my judgement and flip it into the positive giving my child the gift of a childhood without the horrors you endured.
If only many "good" parents were open minded enough to pass this story on to their children (of appropirate age) so that they understand that the world is not always roses and rainbows. I've come to believe it is the mission of those of us who had/have decent childhoods to help those who did/do not. You can't change the past, but you can help make the future better. "A rising tide lifts all boats."
Keep up the great work – your insights are refreshing!
Posted by Shawn Pearson on 07/23/2009 at 02:51pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
PT – I periodically am in the Middleton area, if I see you in a coffee shop or elsewhere, would you mind if I gave you a big hug?
Mickey
Posted by Mickey Van Roo on 07/23/2009 at 03:10pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thank you for sharing your strength, courage, honesty and vulnerability.
Posted by Chris Janak on 07/23/2009 at 03:42pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"I’m more scared of keeping things a secret than I am of letting people know that I’m having trouble."
Brilliantly said Penelope. And if more people felt that way, perhaps we'd have less madness in the world that comes from folks surpressing everything.
Posted by Paula G on 07/23/2009 at 04:29pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, you and I have A LOT in common and I truly appreciate your candor and willingness to share your personal experiences in such a public way.
What you (and I) experienced in our childhoods is something MOST people would think needs to be kept secret, never discussed, written about for anyone to ever read or know about. Secrets hurt US, you and I and every other victim of sexual abuse, physical abuse or what have you.
TELLING about the abuse from a personal perspective means the victim TAKES THEIR POWER BACK, which is most often stolen from child victims. GOOD FOR YOU FOR TELLING! No more secrets!
Posted by Lin on 07/23/2009 at 04:32pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
You are awesome.
Posted by Jacqueline on 07/23/2009 at 04:58pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"If you knew the secret history of those you would like to punish, you would find a sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all your hostility." –H.W. Longfellow
Posted by Nick Holt on 07/23/2009 at 05:25pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thank you for writing this. I've believed all my life that secrets were dangerous. It makes me feel ill if I have one, and wary if someone else is revealed to have one. Having amnesia about my family life prior to age 8 has something to do with it, and a rape when I was 16. When, in my 30s, I asked my shrink if he thought I had PTDS he laughed, and said I'd had it in spades for years. I didn't know–I was just trying to survive, when I wasn't busy trying to rewind myself back to zero. Luckily, at the end of my 40s I can actually try to live and thrive, and not just survive. Being a parent helps a lot. It sounds like you are trying to do the same. Thanks for your posts.
Posted by Christy on 07/23/2009 at 05:27pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Kudos to you again. The older I get, the more stories like yours I hear, and it amazes me that so many people keep these secrets. I wonder what our world would be like if people would share more, and stand up for other people, especially children, more often? I would like to live in that world!
Posted by Heather on 07/23/2009 at 05:28pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Waited a day to comment, hoping I'd have something intelligent to add to the conversation. 24 hours later, I still have no words. *hugs*
Posted by rainie on 07/23/2009 at 05:36pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Dear Penelope,
I loved this article because I can relate. Most of my friends & family have no clue nor has any desire to understand about PTSD. For so long, I lived in shame but you made me think twice about my shame. Right now, I wish I could give you a huge hug! Thank you so much for sharing your experiences. It meant a lot to me. I recently found your blogg and I'm already a huge fan of yours. Keep them coming! You are a very talented writer and I love your honesty that people lack in NYC. Sorry, but some people in NYC are very guarded about their personal life & I lived here all my life.
When I read your article, I almost cried. It moved me.
Best Wishes,
Dani
Posted by Dani on 07/23/2009 at 05:38pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thank you so much for having the courage to share from the heart. I've just recently jumped in to the online world with both feet. I heard of you initially through a teleclass giving you as an example of a good blog to read. I bookmarked it. Just now, someone I follow tweeted about your post on Twitter along the lines of "sharing too much or not – what do you think?" I knew I needed to read the post. I'm a big believer in the "you're only as sick as your secrets" idea, and I tend to share more, more readily than many. You have raised the bar for me, and I am so grateful for that. I have just started a blog called Get Real Change, and your post is the perfect example of what I'm talking about. Basically, the more "real" I have become willing to be, the more I have changed for the better.
Thank you for being you as you are. You are now my official role model, even though I'm old enough to be your mother.
A fellow traveler on your path
Posted by Trudy on 07/23/2009 at 05:51pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think you just inspired me to step up more, and be willing to reveal my truth. Blessings…
Posted by Kim on 07/23/2009 at 06:11pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Brava.
Thank you.
Posted by Kellie on 07/23/2009 at 06:29pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am so sorry this ever had to happen to you. You are an amazing woman and I am inspired by the courage you have today.
Thank you Penelope for your sincere vulnerability.
Posted by Maria on 07/23/2009 at 06:34pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow, I have never commented here before, but I just wanted you to know how incredible I think you are. Unbelievably beautiful and amazing. I hope you keep listening to your own heart and telling your truth. Thank you.
Posted by Briana on 07/23/2009 at 06:40pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
People are calling you brave here, but I think that your openness here is the best thing -maybe at this point the only think you can do. It was a misplaced sense of bravery that kept you quiet about all of this crap that was done, and allowed to be done, to you.
As a member of the society that let you down back then I am sorry. For the society that needs you now I say you have a rare insight into a hell others are living through even now. Maybe there is a way you can reach out to them…
Posted by Andy Pels on 07/23/2009 at 07:23pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wish I could get your message of survival to all the hurting kids in the world who are being failed by their parents,social services, and society. Glad you made it and are here to tell the story…
Posted by Mary Dykstra on 07/23/2009 at 07:49pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thank you so much for sharing this. I'm truly moved and inspired by your openness.
Posted by Amy Siegman on 07/23/2009 at 08:24pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I already posted but wanted to say something more.
My bestfriend's father died this week. He was buried this morning. I sat opposite her now widowed mother in the church, longing to have a mother like her, even a grief-striken one. I watched her weep and thought of the secrets in my own life.
My own mother died thirteen years ago. I was 20. And today I asked myself, "When my mother drowned herself that Friday afternoon, why did I tell myself it was just the way life was?"
I cried for my bestfriend and her family's loss today but I also cried for the twenty year old me who thought it "somewhat normal" when her mother cycled to the beach and walked into the sea.
My life is now full of love, honesty and friendship and for these three reasons, as well as my beloved in-built bullshit detector, my self-made future is brighter than ever.
Thank you for confirming I've been moving in the right direction. You are beyond description.
Posted by sinead on 07/23/2009 at 09:05pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
PT… been reading you for a long time. My first thought is… this explains so much, why now? What happened that you wanted to tell us now? I have a lump in my throat and feel nearly sick. I have an 11-year-old son and the thought of anyone hurting him makes me insane. I would consider killing any person that hurt him. I mean that. Your mother should have protected you. I am glad about your grandmother because maybe she helped you, yes? So messed up and I know it happens. But, all kinds of stuff happens, which is exactly the point of your blog. Thank you for the post. It was also a beautifully written, perfectly executed, gripping, chilling tale.
Posted by rebecca on 07/23/2009 at 11:26pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
You're immensely brave and resilient – and I don't have words to express.
You choose to call yourself brazen – but now with this post, I realise that it's an inadequate word to describe your attitude.
Posted by Gautam Ghosh on 07/24/2009 at 02:17am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, You are awesome, an adjective I only use justifiably.
You make so much make so much sense so often.
Thank you.
Love, Jay
Posted by Jay on 07/24/2009 at 05:10am | permalink | Reply to this comment
My childhood was also very scary, chaotic & abusive. My mother had a severe mental illness & committed suicide when I was 15 & I was relieved she had finally succeeded after so many attempts & trips to the mental hospital (treatment back then was not very successful). Father was a functioning alcoholic who did not protect us.
I'm 55 & have had terrible problems w/depression (suicide attempts starting at 15; last one 3 years ago) & have been dxed w/the same mental illness as my mother.
I just have terrible emotional dysregulation & am in therapy, but I isolate myself as I reveal too much at inappropriate times. I can be in a social situation & someone will mention a topic or ask how I am & I will do what I call my "blurt outs" where I TELL THE TRUTH & it is awfully embarrassing when they stare in silence & don't know what to say. It's not appropriate & then I never want to see these people again (they probably feel the same about me).
In group therapy (Dialectical Behavioral Therapy) is the only place I can be honest as the other women have had awful childhoods, too, so it is not such a shock.
Reading your factual delivery of the abuse that occurred reminded me of when I first started therapy & would just recite the facts like I was telling what to buy at the grocery store. I only remember things like "snapshots", but there is the time my mother did this or my father did that (bad stuff) & I had no emotion about it at all. But I would over-react to OTHER things in my life that did not call for that kind of reaction. I'm realizing that I'm exhibiting the emotions that fit the truth of my childhood, but not my life now. Through DBT I'm learning new coping skills so that I hopefully won't have to hide for the rest of my life for fear of what I will "blurt out." Therapy is the appropriate place for me to talk about these subjects.
When I talked to my husband, I would often get "triggered" into intense sadness (such as when I did my latest suicide attempt) & now I'm finally realizing I'm not talking to my HUSBAND, I'm talking to my FATHER–which, of course, I never could. I apologized to my husband. Poor guy was walking on egg shells around me. He didn't know what would set me off.
I think since you have received so many positive remarks about your article that it must have been an appropriate one. I admire your incredible success in life despite your background. I have not fared so well. I'm not strong. I admire you very much & I, too, cried when reading the article & felt physically sick. I don't understand how people can be so messed up to do those kinds of things. At least my mother was mentally ill & was not thinking right. She did not purposefully set out to hurt us.
I hope no one hurts you again, but I know that is too much to ask for. I wondered if there was an amount of pain one has in life & then you have had your "share" & you won't have any more. That everyone has to have their "share." I thought maybe I had paid my dues of pain in my childhood. I've learned that is not the case; life certainly isn't fair.
All my best to you as you continue to heal.
Posted by S.G. on 07/24/2009 at 07:59am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, thank you for sharing so openly about your painful past. Your courage to do so and desire to help others considering what you've been thru is very admirable! Thank you for being willing to put it all on the line. I hope much good will come to many because of it. :)
Posted by Glenn Hilton on 07/24/2009 at 09:41am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow, I think this is exactly what I needed to read after finding out about even more of my own family's secrets yesterday. Thank you for sharing this and being an inspiration to the rest of us.
Posted by Max on 07/24/2009 at 10:31am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Many years ago all I thought about was killing myself. I'm not even sure why; my childhood wasn't horrible by an means. I think it was something in my DNA. Then I started to meditate (TM) and gradually the negativity about myself started to fall away. It was being replaced by positivity. It was a real experience, not mood making.
I was raised in a Jewish household, but for many years have wished that I could confess to a priest and let him take on my angst. It would seem your blog serves a similar purpose.
God bless you.
Posted by Barry Tobias on 07/24/2009 at 10:52am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow. Wow. Wow. Your parents need to be put in prison. And it makes sense to me why you blog the way you do – it's your therapy. Your coping mechanism. And you deserve it. Thank you for sharing.
Posted by Amber Warren on 07/24/2009 at 12:08pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penny,
As always, your most personal work is your most intriguing. But doesn't this make you more vulnerable? Or at least feel that way?
Posted by Dale on 07/24/2009 at 12:27pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I started to cry reading this post and then cried some more when I read the comments. I am so grateful that you shared this. I am also sorry you had these terrible experiences. I always looked up to you before but now you are my absolute hero.
How do you handle writing about this stuff if you think your parents will be able to read it?
I went to a talk once by Augusten Burroughs and he said the distance from his family is what made it possible for him, but for Dave Pelzer, the guy who wrote "A Man Named Dave," he wasn't able to write about things until his parents died.
Is it difficult for you to put your experiences out there knowing your family will read them?
I struggle with how much to reveal so this post really struck home. I love you man.
Posted by spleeness on 07/24/2009 at 12:28pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
A book that was so affirming to me as in yes,these things do happen & you as a child don't realize what is wrong & there is no one to protect you, but even so the author could find some HUMOR in these incredible situations that are so unbelievable that it seems no one else understands–but my god–it did happen & it was crazy & wasn't it funny (insane) about being locked in the closet while your mother is entertaining her boyfriends, etc. I mean, really, that is totally–well–people who have not lived through this kind of stuff I don't think can see the humor of THIS WAS MY LIFE.
Sorry–as I said I am not a good communicator, but the book was by Mary (I think that is her first name) Karr. She is primarily a poet, but wrote this memoir & I was like, you too!!! It was REAL. It is called "The Liars Club."
I saw her speak at a local university & she was charming & funny & so well-adjusted (as you seem to be). I don't know how you do it or how she did it, but kudos to you amazing women who have experienced too much of the bad & survived & even THRIVED in life. You are definitely an inspiration. Check out her book. You could write one as poignant, I'm sure.
All my best—
Posted by S.G. on 07/24/2009 at 03:39pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope
First, I'm sorry that you had such a traumatic childhood. Coming from one very similar to yours, I can identify and empathize. Perhaps it explains why you obviously don't understand about personal boundaries, of the kind you break regularly when you blog all about anything/everything that comes to your mind.
Just because one can share, and even has something to share, doesn't mean you should share. With the whole world.
Yes, it's brave and necessary to discuss those things that can shame us and keep us from healing. Yes, it is important that we share this information with some people in our lives. But it's about sharing with the appropriate people and not the world, and in an appropriate format.
There are plenty of professional mental health experts who might enlighten you about the different ways to "go public" with your thoughts, issues, etc.
Clearly, so many of your readers think you do all this for your personal catharsis. I'm afraid I believe you do it for attention and approval as well. Now, that's not inherently bad. Lots of folks in entertainment, other industries do exactly the same thing. Today, everyone seems to share way too much with the general populace.
The issue to me is not so much what you share, but that you share indiscriminately and with no sense that some things are NOT 1/of interest to others (I do NOT care about your sex life! Why should I? I mean, seriously.)and 2/violate the privacy of others (you can make all the excuses you want, but you really have not paid much attention to the rights, concerns and cares of others in what you've blogged. You just blow that off. You show next to no real concern about others' feelings. If Penelope wants to talk, she'll talk. Free speech, blah, blah, blah. That's truly selfish and inconsiderate.)
You seem to confuse the ability to discriminately share information with hiding, secrets and shame. It's not either/or.
It's clear you had no positive role models for appropriate behavior and the "sharing" is one glaring example.
There are probably some people who read your posts who may actually know you personally (business, socially, etc.) and who genuinely are involved in your life and care about you.
The rest who comment here? Some are observers, voyeurs (and worse, in some cases). But the folks here are not your friends. They are NOT invested in your real life. They do not have your back or your interests at heart.
Folks who write here also delude themselves when they respond, because they are, for the most part, writing as strangers, and not as individuals actually involved in your real/offline life and healing. (Do you realize that your real life is NOT lived online? I wonder. I think you have a real addiction problem when it comes to your obsession with sharing some of the stuff you do.)
Had you shared this very same information without identifying yourself and with your friends and family (many of whom did not give you permission and specifically asked not to be included), you might be more credible.
But your almost constant need to share so much is, to me and others (though they may not say it–your blog seems to attract a lot of syncophants) a sign that you still have some serious personal issues that need some private work. A blog is not your personal "couch" for therapy, though that is how you treat it.
The cable show In Treatment was interesting because it was not about real people. And any show that is on TV, no matter that it's labeled "reality" is not about reality. Life is NOT lived in blogs or on TV.
You write:
"And when you think you cannot tell someone something about yourself, ask yourself, “Really, why not?”"
Why not? 1/ Who cares? is the first and obvious response and 2/Think of how what you say affects others and your own life. Each of us thinks our lives are interesting and fascinating. Maybe they are, to a select few people who care for us. Maybe not. (You're not Oprah, Penelope. When you've actually helped as many people as she has with her sharing, then maybe…)
You "talk" a lot, but you really don't have much true insight into yourself and your real needs.
I hope you are in therapy now but I doubt it. No therapist with real credentials would urge you to share as you have shared. If anything, it would be the opposite.
personally, I resent you treating an audience as if we were your therapists. And that is how you treat us.
You can share plenty in life with those who are truly involved in your life. But that doesn't mean you share everything or whatever comes through your head at any moment.
For those who praise you for this, you are entitled to your opinion.
Just because you do something, think something, etc. doesn't mean it has to be shared.
That's beyond self-indulgent and self-involved.
By the way, your entry didn't really address the question you raised, IMHO.
It's truly hard to feel sorry for you because really I think you are, at heart, manipulative. I'm sorry. You've been hurt, but I think all this blogging about your personal life is your own way of striking back and hurting others when you can't deal with your own pain privately.
By the way, long before blogs, there were these things called "personal journals." People wrote everything in them and then perhaps shared them with only a few trusted souls. One-on-one therapy (or group for you, since you NEED an audience) also is an option for this type of sharing in a constructive fashion.
My real sadness for you is that you might actually believe that putting all this out there has helped you deal better with your life. From what you have written, it's clear that you haven't. Cause to quote Dr. Phil, "How's it working for you?" It clearly is not.
FYI: Everybody has stuff. You're right in that you are no different than others. But you are not "braver" than those who do not blog their every thought.
I'm sure this will sound harsh to your "fans" but hey, isn't it all about opinion and sharing? So, I say all this in that spirit, the one that you constantly exhort.
my own feelings on this are absolutely irrelevant to your life.
I hope you find some peace of mind. I hope that all this "sharing" leads you back to a less public "space" and to some real work. Cause blogging your brains out has not solved, and will not solve, the pain you are experiencing from what you've been through.
Ironically, I always suspected that you were someone who might have been severely abused. You demonstrate a lot of behavior of individuals who've been subjected to it. (although not all, because too many people go to the opposite extreme and say nothing. Honestly, there is a middle ground to explore for both of you.)
Posted by IRG on 07/24/2009 at 04:09pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
IRG, you sound defensive. What's up? Did this post touch a nerve? If you don't want to read what Penelope has to say, then don't read it. No one's forcing you. It's her BLOG, for chrissake. Her online diary. Why do you resent her feelings?
And you only have to read through the comments here to see how many people have been helped by her sharing. Reminds me of the starfish story, a man walking along the beach picking up stranded starfish and throwing them back in the water. Someone says, "how can you possibly do this, there are so many! How could your efforts matter?" and the guy looks at the starfish in his hand, "It matters to this one." If even one person is helped, isn't it worth it?
Posted by spleeness on 07/24/2009 at 04:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I can understand what you are saying but really it's Penelope's story to tell or not tell, and it's her decision how to deal with it. We shouldn't judge that any more than we should judge someone's decision to keep such a thing private.
There is even a chance that by sharing her experiences, she may end up helping other people who have been through similar (or even completely different) experiences by helping them know they are not alone (or in my case, putting into perspective how fortunate I really am).
I agree that Penelope seeks attention – there are a lot of posts where that is true to more or less extent. But really, so what if she does? There are worse things in life and at least she's turning it into some kind of currency through the blog.
I don't think it's true to say that none of Penelope's readers care about her either. I think many of the responses, my own included, are nothing but compassionate. It's not voyeurism. I might not know Penelope face to face but I still think of her as a real human being and care about her.
Posted by Caitlin on 07/25/2009 at 01:56am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Dear IRG,
This may mean little to you, as I am merely a "stranger" who has never met you but, despite that, I simply wanted to say I am sorry for the pain of your childhood. The empathy and compassion that has been stirred up by this post and in these comments isn't for Penelope alone. There's enough for you, too, IRG.
The unimaginable has been clearly depicted. The unmentionable has been openly discussed. And there's healing and power in that.
Abuse, violence, molestation… these vile things do not deserve propriety and dainty appropriateness. Reserving Real Talk about shadows for tea-time with a therapist sounds to me more like the sentiment of a predator, than of a survivor.
I don't want to play arm-chair psychologist. I would like to be a Genuinely Caring Witness and Beholder of the atrocities and triumphs that have been shared here.
Posted by Erika Harris on 07/24/2009 at 04:47pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
IRG, you raised some credible arguments such as the appropriateness of the material that Penelope revealed on-line and the privacy considerations of those mentioned in the post. However, it was done in a manner that was neither helpful or constructive. Your comment was ridiculously long-winded. Haven't you ever heard of the economy of words?
I will try to be brief for the next two points –
1. You seem to believe that PT's "blog seems to attract a lot of syncophants" By the way, its sycophants. Go and read Penelope's OTHER posts and have a look at the comments. Have a look at "I hate David Dellifield. The one from Ada, Ohio". You will see, PT has her fair share of haters.
2. You also mention "personally, I resent you treating an audience as if we were your therapists. And that is how you treat us." Hahaha. That is just funny, laughable in fact. It is so stupid on so many levels. Defensive much?
Posted by Gerty on 07/24/2009 at 06:20pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow. I understand the not remembering, the secrets that stole so much from us, and yet think, here you STILL are. That is what I tell myself, I am still here and the not the crack-whore I was supposed to be. You give me the courage to continue to reveal more about who I am and where I came from. Read my blog and you will see that we are very nearly sisters in surival. http://mylifeoutloud-andi.blogspot.com. Read, leave a comment, and continue to heal.
Posted by Andi on 07/24/2009 at 08:05pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Truly moved – and I so respect and admire your honesty.
Posted by Stephanie on 07/25/2009 at 12:57am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am bowled over by your candor. And I now have a much better understanding of your willingness to share publicly in your blog what many would consider "private" issues. Thank you for your honesty and openness.
I am fortunate to have had parents who provided a loving environment for me as a child. And yet, I've always been a very private person. I've come to realize that it has much to do with perfectionism (mine) and my concern about being judged. Addressing that is a continuing struggle.
Thanks for helping me to reflect further on this — my background may not be the same as yours, but your call to think about why we hold back on sharing information is an important one.
Posted by Clara on 07/25/2009 at 08:57am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thank you for sharing.
Posted by Jackie on 07/25/2009 at 10:41am | permalink | Reply to this comment
> I'm going to start by telling you that I was at the World Trade Center when it fell.
Christ, Pee, if you bring that one one goddam more time…
You have Narcissistic Personality Disorder, period. You are mentally ill, though still capable of functioning at a reasonably high level. All the rest of the stuff you drag into it is bullshit.
I will say, though, that as this culture gets more narcissistic, you will do continually better. People feed off your illness like a drug.
Posted by John on 07/25/2009 at 06:42pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
+1, John – well said.
Posted by jim on 07/27/2009 at 07:58am |