The idea that we somehow have a certain amount of potential that we must live up to is a complete crock. People who say they are not living up to their potential do not understand what living means.
Life is very hard. We each probably have some fundamental goals, even if we don't think of them consciously. First of all, getting up in the morning is very hard. It is fundamentally an act of optimism. Because surely you have already realized that most days are not full of happiness. They are full, but with something else. Yet we still get out of bed every day, thinking that the day is going to be good. That's a big deal. A huge leap of faith. I spend a lot of time wondering why more of us don't kill ourselves, and I never come up with a great answer.
The next big goals we have are the spiritual kind: Be good, be kind, treat people with respect. You probably don't write these on your to do list, but now that you read them, surely you are thinking to yourself, "Oh yeah, I want to remember to do that."
So already, life is very full. For example, I just took the red eye home from San Francisco. But if you live in a little town like Madison, Wisconsin, there is, really, no red eye. There is only half a red eye to Chicago, a traumatic awakening at 5am, and then an 8am flight to Wisconsin. By the time I get to my gate, treating people with respect takes pretty much everything that is left of my potential.
Living up to your potential is not crossing off everything on your to do list on time, under budget. Or canonizing your ideas in a book deal. Really, no one cares. You are not on this earth to do that. Trust me. No one is. You are on this earth to be kind. That is your only potential.
And then you have to earn a living.
It's no coincidence that everyone who is walking around bitching that they are not living up to their potential is talking about how they should be more successful at work. Because "living up to potential" is really just code for "not being recognized as the talented genius that I am."
How about this? How about saying, "I was so good at getting high marks in school. Why am I not catapulting up the corporate ladder?" The answer, of course, is that most of getting what you want at work is about having social skills, and school doesn't measure that. So there you go—if you insist on talking about living up to your amorphous potential, the reason you're not doing it, most likely, is that you are not being kind enough at your work.
If you want to live up to your potential, be as nice as you can be. Be as respectful as you can be. Be as honest with yourself as you can be. Because you can't be honest with other people if you are not honest with yourself.
What can you do if you think you are living below your potential?
1. Recognize that it's delusional. You are who you are, and you should just be you. Have realistic, meaningful goals for your life, like: Be kind. Be engaged. Be optimistic. Be connected. Most people who say they are not living up to their potential are not talking about this most-important stuff.
2. Recognize that the world isn't a race. A race assumes that everyone has an inborn ability to reach a personal best. If you stop racing, you stop wondering what that inborn ability is. I mean, really, "living up to one's potential" is always relative. You are really talking about your ability to kick everyone else's butt at something. And it's not a pleasant thing to say. When you stop looking at the world as a competition, then you can stop wondering why you're not coming in first place.
3. Recognize that you sound like your mother. "Living up to your potential" is a phrase from a grade-school report card. It is elementary-school speak. It is your parents saying you need to do more homework. It is your mother saying "Joey, you're a genius. Why don’t you get straight A's? Look what you do to your mother!" In almost every case when someone says, "You are not living up to your potential," the proper answer is, "So what?" Because it's always someone trying to tell you that the thing you should contribute to this world is something other than kindness.










I was nice in a previous position as a full-time employee. My niceness was mistaken for weakness. I had to to work 90 hour weeks. I pulled 4 all-nighters that year, under threat of losing my job.
As a reward for my niceness, I was told I was not a team player and not given a raise for 2 years.
I was also moved into an old abandoned bank vault for my cubicle.
Nice only gets you so far, and many people mistake being nice for being weak. You can be nice as long as you have your boundaries and hold fast to them.
BTW: After I left that firm, I almost doubled my salary.
Posted by Jim on 08/08/2008 at 08:52am | permalink | Reply to this comment
For years I've been wondering what my teachers meant by saying, "You have so much potential!" I asked them what they meant, and even right after saying it, they couldn't tell me.
Thank you.
Posted by lilacorchid on 08/08/2008 at 09:06am | permalink | Reply to this comment
"People who say they are not living up to their potential do not understand what living means."
Brilliant!
@2. Too many people think life is a race that is only won if you get the gold in record time. Unlike the Olympics, slow and steady wins the race of life.
Posted by prklypr on 08/08/2008 at 09:27am | permalink | Reply to this comment
@Jim – don't let that one bad experience turn you off from being nice. You'll get more with sugar than vinegar (or something like that).
Posted by prklypr on 08/08/2008 at 09:30am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I was going to say something along the lines of what Jim posted, but after reading his post I'm thinking he and I and all the people who run over us for being nice are all wrong. While sometimes it's beneficial to be… less than pleasant in the short-term, it's not good for you as a person and it's not good for the world. My belief has always been that my purpose in life, although it often seems completely unproductive (for me…) is to make things easier for other people. This primarily means being kind. I've been fortunate to be able to be true to myself in this respect, but there have always been people opposed to this philosophy, those who have told me to be more "bold" when they mean rude, demanding, selfish, actually.
Maybe they're right, but it's not right for me.
Posted by amanda on 08/08/2008 at 09:31am | permalink | Reply to this comment
@Jim & Amanda – you actually don't have to be less than pleasant to still not get walked on. A lot of people do this, but you mistake saying no to things as being mean which isn't the case at all. Being bold isn't about being those negative things, its about standing up for yourself – how is that negative?
Understanding yourself, your own needs, and how to communicate them will never be looked at as negative. @Jim, you can't complain about your old job working you crappy hours, never getting a raise, and having a bad office because you never stood up for yourself and said no. That's not being nice, that's being a doormat. @Amanda, I don't think there's a wrong or right purpose for people's lives, but yours strikes me as having low self esteem rather than it being a purposeful life. As much as we can hate it, we're all ego driven and what happens when we don't let our own needs come first? So while you spend your time making other people's lives easier, you sound like your life is taking the backseat. I say this because your post doesn't sound positive, it sheds a negative light around being nice, as Dan's does. So think of it this way… if being nice is negative, is it really nice?
Posted by Smith+Fritzy on 08/08/2008 at 09:44am | permalink | Reply to this comment
"I spend a lot of time wondering why more of us don’t kill ourselves, and I never come up with a great answer."
Possibly a better use of time is to wonder why the people who kill themselves do.
Posted by kchicago on 08/08/2008 at 09:46am | permalink | Reply to this comment
People mistake being nice with being a pushover. Being nice is about treating people with respect. Basically the Golden Rule that we are learned as children works just fine. When people don't reciprocate, you still need to react and maintain your boundaries. Work those 90 hour weeks but be sure to talk about some compensation for the extra effort you put in.
Posted by Vanessa on 08/08/2008 at 09:48am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Well said, Amanda!
Since the 80s there has been a deification of ugly, demanding, selfish behavior. Yet humanity would have never survived for millennia if we actually were all piggy, all the time.
In our own day, "niceness" has been seen as a problem to be cured with assertiveness training, a toxic state of "co-dependency," and as Jim describes, an invitation to workplace predators.
And who doesn't love a workplace filled with predators maximizing their personal potential?
In the economic times ahead, however, kindness and consideration may be the best possible currency. The other kind isn't looking too safe right now.
Posted by Arlene on 08/08/2008 at 09:55am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Yes – social skills, soft skills, emotional intelligence…These can be the defining factors for many people. Brilliant people aren't always the best decision makers or the best communicators, but communication and decision making are key to success at work and in life.
It amazes me how often smart, well-educated people blow opportunities as a result of poor emotional intelligence. It is easy to underestimate the value of being driven by bigger goals (being kind…being connected). Life DOES get in the way, and we excuse our less than stellar behavior because we are tired, or didn't get a good parking spot, or missed our flight, or missed a deadline…This list goes on and on.
No matter what anyone tells us, there is little in life that is totally within our control. We rely on other people for so much of what we use to define "success."
I am convinced that people who re-set their gauges to define success based on what they DO control (how they treat others, how they react to difficult situations) are much more likely to jump out of bed in the morning than those who allow others to set those standards.
Thanks for the reminder!
Posted by Miriam Salpeter, Keppie Careers on 08/08/2008 at 09:58am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I don't think Penelope said to be nice, she said to be kind. I think there's an important distinction there.
I think kindness has an internal, moral component to it where niceness is more involved with externals, appearance and manners.
Niceness is something you can exhibit all the time, I think kindness is a response to a sincere need in someone you are interacting with. You can act nice when being taken advantage of but you can't be kind because it isn't an interaction that allows kindness to come into play.
kind1 (kīnd) pronunciation
adj., kind·er, kind·est.
1. Of a friendly, generous, or warm-hearted nature.
2. Showing sympathy or understanding; charitable: a kind word.
3. Humane; considerate: kind to animals.
4. Forbearing; tolerant: Our neighbor was very kind about the window we broke.
5. Generous; liberal: kind words of praise.
6. Agreeable; beneficial: a dry climate kind to asthmatics.
nice (nīs) pronunciation
adj., nic·er, nic·est.
1. Pleasing and agreeable in nature: had a nice time.
2. Having a pleasant or attractive appearance: a nice dress; a nice face.
3. Exhibiting courtesy and politeness: a nice gesture.
4. Of good character and reputation; respectable.
5. Overdelicate or fastidious; fussy.
Posted by Lee Potts on 08/08/2008 at 10:02am | permalink | Reply to this comment
From my own experience I learned that being assertive is better than being nice. But there is a fine line between being assertive and agressive. I think you can stand up for yourself and tell a co-worker or a boss that they are over stepping their boundaries in a respectful way. To do this in a assertive way is to look at things through their eyes as well as yours. That is very hard to do but that is what being generous in spirit is all about.
Posted by Leslie on 08/08/2008 at 10:16am | permalink | Reply to this comment
"You are not on this earth to do that. Trust me. No one is. You are on this earth to be kind."
Hi Penelope, sounds like you were channeling your inner Vonnegut — from _God Bless You, Mr. Rosewater_:
'Hello, babies. Welcome to Earth. It's hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It's round and wet and crowded. At the outside, babies, you've got about a hundred years here. There's only one rule that I know of, babies — "God damn it, you've got to be kind." '
If you were, good choice.
Being kind or optimistic as a goal is much less tangible than winning. I'm warming to it, but not without a fight; perhaps it takes maturity. It feels like a fracturing of goals, like the one thing I've been chasing — potential — has shattered into many things. That's confusing since you can't chase all of the pieces at once, if at all, so which ones to chase becomes the problem.
You've struck a chord, though I'm not sure what it is yet. I've been saying "potential is BS" for long enough, but in a different manner. I think potential is the limit we'll never reach. If you jump the bar, the bar is always set higher. At some point you have to be as single-minded as Capt. Ahab to clear it, and maybe it will cost everything you've got: family, friends, etc.
(I do, however, believe in preparing well, working hard, having goals. Not believing in potential is different than that…)
Posted by Kirk Kittell on 08/08/2008 at 10:19am | permalink | Reply to this comment
@ Amanda and Jim – The trouble with this thinking is is that niceness is something we deserve to be rewarded for. When that's missing the point entirely. The real reason kindness is for you. Not for rewards.
I think it's really hard, though, to separate those things from each because we want to be recognized and rewarded and not run over completely for being decent human beings. That's why ethics is such a big thing in the business world, right? But it's also why it's such a big issue.
So, thanks for being honest about this.
The challenge for us all is not just to focus on those things that matter most – kindness, relationships, optimism – by doing them, but for the mere act of doing so to be what satisfies us, no matter what else. Because that is where the authentic part comes in.
Posted by Tiffany Monhollon on 08/08/2008 at 10:25am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Perhaps you shouldn't write blog posts after coming off a red-eye.
I'm skeptical of people who say they don't live up to their potential — mostly because their evaluation of their potential is probably exagerated.
But I know plenty of people who don't live up to their potential — people who are smart but a bit lazy or who are talented in a field for which they have no interest.
I'm not sure I'd say that you're on earth to be "kind," but it's better than a lot of people come up with.
To the commenters above, kind is not necessarily "nice." You do not have to be a doormat to be kind. Another way to put it is gentle — posessing a strength that is used appropriately.
Posted by ChrisB on 08/08/2008 at 10:27am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I agree that the goal is more "kindness" than "niceness." Nice has a sordid past. But I have certainly used the words interchangeably at times.
Some time ago, I figured out that being a good person was really the goal, but I am constantly challenged.
In my workplace, in particular, I am challenged by people who don't see this as a goal at all, much less an important one. My sense of justice is twisted when I see these people succeeding because people buy their manipulations. I don't want to be dragged down into their view of the world, but I have trouble keeping my own in the day-to-day.
Posted by AG on 08/08/2008 at 10:37am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Those who think that being kind = being a pushover are hurting themselves with a sucker's choice.
It is perfectly possible to be kind *and* firm, assertive and conscious of boundaries (yours and others). People who master this are effective and a joy to work with.
People who think that "being nice" involves letting other people abuse them and violate their boundaries are exhausting and miserable to work with, because they get exhausted, miserable, and ultimately resentful. Nobody likes a martyr.
Posted by Becky on 08/08/2008 at 10:50am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm not so sure Penelope.
People always have potential – that's the gap between where you are right now and a place you could be. Having potential isn't a bad thing in itself, it's just how the self-help industry (of which I'm a part) has rammed this down our throats that gets my goat.
You don't have to go all out to reach that place of potential, and I firmly believe that having goals causes more problems than they solve.
For me, the point of 'realising potential' is about figuring out what's important to you and honouring those things. If that means being kind then great. If it means working with an NGO then great. If your important thing is making papier mache animals, then go crazy with your paper and glue.
You're right in suggesting that simply 'reaching potential' won't make you happy, just like reaching a goal won't make you happy by itself. With all the moving forwards and 'reaching' that people are doing, when do we get to stay still and enjoy ourselves right now?
As you say, the point is to engage – with where you are right now as well as whatever you might want to create. Wasted potential is someone who's not enagaging with what matters to them – that's not just a waste but a tragedy.
Posted by Steve Errey on 08/08/2008 at 10:52am | permalink | Reply to this comment
If living up to my potential means loving my kids, then I am doing a damn good job. :) Most of the time I think the rest is just window dressing so my kids are proud of me when they grow up. BTW, Penelope, your kids rock. Sorry you couldn't make it to the b-day party. Stuck in some connection somewhere, I suppose.
Posted by Noelle (Sofia's mom) on 08/08/2008 at 10:59am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Just sayin' I found this column to be moving…striking at the core of an recent unfortunate incident at work. Well said.
Posted by Bob on 08/08/2008 at 11:04am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Nobody lives up to their full potential. At least some gets unrealized by the choices we make and the dictates of our environment.
Posted by jrandom42 on 08/08/2008 at 11:04am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Like ChrisB said, your/my potential is probably exagerated by your/my mind. (I know, because I have bitten by it)
On the point of niceness, I had used my niceness to move ahead from each of my job. Niceness has to be accompany with reliability (Doing what you offered to help on). With that:
- More people will come to you for help, lead to more opportunities
- More willing provide help for you, which will make you more efficient (ask long as you are willing to ask)
- People are more understanding when you screw up
Niceness leads me to more opportunities not because I'm nice, but because I gain so much knowledge, skills & network by helping others.
Posted by Ian on 08/08/2008 at 11:04am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Well said. It reminds me of the old "Good-fast-cheap model. You could pick any two, but there are never enough resources to make all three priorities.
Life (and potential) are the same way. Everyday, we make choices about where to apply our potential energies. I was an honors student my entire life and know many of my peers have gone on to to interesting things and have become successful.
Having a great career is fine, if that's all you want of life. However, at some point, you may decide there are other aspects of your life on which you'd like to expend your potential energy. For one friend, she was told (by a teacher) she was wasting hers on missionary work as an ESL elementary teacher in an underdeveloped country. For me, I try to divide mine among my career, spouse, and children.
Sooner or later if you start to feel you can "win" at everything, or any one thing, you'll come to realize that you have to give up–or that you have already lost by default–something in the process. When it my kids are sick, my husband and I know we have to sit out a round or two of work to take care of them, because we'd rather apply our greatest potential there.
Posted by Nikki Massaro Kauffman on 08/08/2008 at 11:11am | permalink | Reply to this comment
@ChrisB
I'm skeptical of people who cannot spell exaggerated :)
Posted by prklypr on 08/08/2008 at 11:20am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Oh, yeah: "You are who you are, and you should just be you."
So self-improvement is out the door. Well, that frees up my Saturday.
Posted by ChrisB on 08/08/2008 at 11:20am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Well said, P, I couldn't agree more.
And yours is the only blog where will people will argue about the difference between "kind" and "nice." Amazing – you are a stronger woman than me.
Semantics are not the point. Human decency is. Just use your superpowers for good, and all else falls into place.
Enjoy your weekend.
-Pam
Posted by Pamela Slim on 08/08/2008 at 11:24am | permalink | Reply to this comment
You are not on earth to do anything. DNA mutated funny, creating the branch of the animal kingdom that led to humans. There's no special mission attached to that DNA mutation. It happened; we're here. We need to survive/thrive as long as we're on this Earth, simply because the cultural construct we've created for our society mandates it.
Posted by zak on 08/08/2008 at 11:24am | permalink | Reply to this comment
At first, I was thinking "Wow, PT is feelin' blue;" and I was going to recommend Happier by Tal Ben-Shahar, which is a great book on practicing the tenets of positive psychology. His thesis, in a nutshell, is that a happy life requires both pleasure and meaning together. But as I finished the post, I felt you nailed it. Kindness is always good and always in short supply. To strive to be kind is highly meaningful and the experience of kindness is almost always pleasant.
Posted by Tom on 08/08/2008 at 11:29am | permalink | Reply to this comment
What's important to me is I live up to the potential I have defined for myself. I have to live with myself. I'll listen to what other people have to say but ultimately the decision is mine. I always do my best to start with kind, respectful, optimistic, engaged, and connected as mentioned in #1. However there are times when people will test my patience and sometimes it happens when I've just been drained by a recent previous experience. One example of living up to my potential is driving an automobile responsibly. I have an excellent driving record and have taken numerous NTSI workshops to keep my insurance premiums at a minimum. Of course I occasionally get tested by someone cutting me off or tailgating me. I can't say I'm always kind and understanding in these matters but that's where I start. I have found if I have an immediate negative reaction to their bonehead maneuver that's what I'll get back from them. So I give them the benefit of the doubt and let it go. If they persist, they get my 16 plus years of LA driving experience. It's not pretty but I've lived up to my potential and I can live with myself.
Posted by Mark W. on 08/08/2008 at 11:29am | permalink | Reply to this comment
"I'm not living up to my potential" only means…
"I'm not happy."
Tony Robbins says we have 6 basic needs.
Need 1: Certainty/Comfort
Need 2: Uncertainty/Variety
Need 3: Significance
Need 4: Connection/Love
Need 5: Growth
Need 6: Contribution
I kinda think he's on to something. If we feel underutilized in the workplace, we are probably lacking in one of these areas. Penelope is right. It's an emotional/spiritual issue.
Posted by Grace on 08/08/2008 at 11:30am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hmm. I have never, ever, heard anyone say that they themselves aren't living up to their own potential. I have only heard this said in the second and third person: 'you aren't' or 'he/she isn't.' It is always offensive to say that about someone else, and it never occured to me that anyone would apply that (poor) criterion of success to themselves.
Posted by LP on 08/08/2008 at 11:31am | permalink | Reply to this comment
You know, it does boil down to kindness.
I love the movie "Wit". In the end, all her academic/professional aspirations had little value. What was lasting was the basic kindness.
Posted by Grace on 08/08/2008 at 11:33am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This is a great reminder for us all. I always feel like I'm never doing good enough, never being successful enough, but really that's okay because if I'm enjoying life that alone is success in the greatest form.
Posted by Sassy on 08/08/2008 at 11:58am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Very eloquent. One of your best posts for a long time.
Posted by Andrew on 08/08/2008 at 12:52pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I enjoyed this post very much. I even wrote down your four things to do, and will read them often. I also believe with those commenters who pointed out that being kind is not the same as being nice.
Posted by Patricia Fraser on 08/08/2008 at 01:13pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I can't help but have one of Liz Phair's saddest, most brilliant song lyrics in my head as I read this post: "I learn my name/I write with a number two pencil/I work up to my potential/I earn my name." That is so sad. And I totally relate to it.
You have this uncanny ability to post these things on the days I need to read them most.
This goes hand in hand with me listening to The Now Habit by Dr. Neil Firoe in my car because I procrastinate and then shit all over myself for doing it. And I've been doing it forever, even since I used sharp number 2 pencils in school and was "good" and always terrified someone was going to find out the piece of shit I really was. So I procrastinate. I always get things done but always under pressure and rarely ever feeling like I'm doing my best. Rather than give me more organizational tips (please, I know them all), this book really gets to the heart of why procrastination happens. Not because we are bad people but because it's a really effective way of drowning out the white noise of YOU ARE SHIT. It's how I've protected myself from that voice.
So, listening to this audiobook and reading this post made me realize my goals should not be: 1) stop being a terrible person and 2) do spectacular things to garner public recognition so a choir of people can tell me I'm no longer a terrible person. It's now going to be 1) be human because you are and 2) be kind, have compassion because you don't have to be the bitch whose just secretly scared anymore.
Thank you.
Posted by Joselle Palacios on 08/08/2008 at 01:40pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
PS: It's Neil FIORE. I highly recommend his book, The Now Habit.
Posted by Joselle Palacios on 08/08/2008 at 01:41pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"Nice" is what LOOKS good.
"Kind" is what IS good.
Posted by Grace on 08/08/2008 at 01:52pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
And "kind" may be perceived as "unkind".
If my child is running into traffic and I grab her by the arm and yank her back to the sidewalk just before she is hit by a car, I know I'm being kind. But she cries because I have scared her. In her eyes, I've done something unkind – or "not nice".
Posted by Grace on 08/08/2008 at 01:56pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
We all create a fictional world. Being aware of this isn't good enough. We need check marks and balances to keep ourselves in line.
I try (notice I said try) to slow down every hour to watch the direction of my thoughts. Am I getting to caught up in all the emotion? When I am I stop, relax and find a 10% change in direction to keep happy and focused.
Posted by Karl Staib on 08/08/2008 at 02:03pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
@Grace
Wow, That's is a concise way to explain the difference. I didn't know there is such a difference between nice & kind.
Posted by Ian on 08/08/2008 at 02:03pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Smith & Fritzy:
I actually tried to stand up for myself and pushed back. When that happened things got even worse. I made a personal vow to get out of there and I now use that experience to spur me on.
Success is the best revenge.
Posted by Jim on 08/08/2008 at 02:06pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Though I've read this blog for the better part of a year, this is the first time I am commenting. I could spend days with Anthony Robbins, Stephen Covey, or David Allen. I can do yoga and complete 10ks. I can pray or meditate or talk to my family to figure out how to lead my life. Penelope just summed up my mission statement in 8 words:
"Be kind. Be engaged. Be optimistic. Be connected."
Thanks!
Posted by Kim on 08/08/2008 at 02:07pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am not living up to my potential for kindness, engagement, and connectedness. But I am optimistic that I can do better.
Posted by Dave Atkins on 08/08/2008 at 02:37pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
The question is not whether or not you live up to your potential. The question is, are you happy, and are you growing?
Living up to your potential implies you have an external obligation. Trying to grow simply means being the best you that you can be.
Posted by Chris Yeh on 08/08/2008 at 02:53pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Provocative post. I agree and disagree. I would argue that we’re not on earth to “be kind” as you say early in the post, but rather engaged, as you say at the end of the post.
I’m in my mid-twenties, and I’ve been thinking about what I really want out of life, and I’ve begun to realize that—for me, at least—I want to be fully engaged and present in all aspects.
When I’m fully engaged in my relationships, I treat people with respect and kindness. When I’m fully engaged in the world, I am aware and informed. When I’m fully engaged in my own life, I have the power to know what kind of life I want—and work to create it.
To me, that’s my “reaching my potential.” Knowing what I want and what I’m capable of and trying not to let fear or foolishness get in the way making it happen.
Posted by Jennifer Lynn on 08/08/2008 at 03:23pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"most of getting what you want at work is about having social skills, and school doesn’t measure that. So there you go—if you insist on talking about living up to your amorphous potential, the reason you’re not doing it, most likely, is that you are not being kind enough at your work."
^It strikes me as a little sweetly naive to equate the social skills you need to advance in your career with just being kind.
Posted by Werner von Wallenrod on 08/08/2008 at 05:17pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I like to think of living up to my potential as being situational. In this moment, given the situation, how can I be the best that I am? And, almost always, that involves being engaged, kind and very present.
Posted by Kathleen on 08/08/2008 at 06:41pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hm, I really appreciated that rumination on the simple act of placing your faith in your alarm clock (and the near-grandiose intentions of your bedtime self) and placing both feet on the floor in the morning. To me, it didn't come off as nihilistic or negative…it's a great question. We know we probably won't find ultimate happiness…but we hope for meaning, nevertheless? Or there are probably many words you could toss in there…I feel like this discussion is trying to sneakily sum up Vonnegut (right on, Kirk!), Nietzsche, Jesus…all those Top 10 moral philosophies. Nice try commenters! Nice try, Penelope! Hah…The Tao of P.
Because it's the internet and I don't care how pretentious I come off here, here's my favorite (because I don't quite get it) chapter from the Tao, searchable here:
Accept disgrace willingly.
Accept misfortune as the human condition.
What do you mean by "Accept disgrace willingly"?
Accept being unimportant.
Do not be concerned with loss and gain.
This is called "accepting disgrace willingly".
What do you mean by "Accept misfortune as the human condition"?
Misfortune comes from having a body.
Without a body, how could there be misfortune?
Surrender yourself humbly;
then you can be trusted to care for all things.
Love the world as your own self;
then you can truly care for all things.
As to all this talk of potential…I don't know, I gotta say that I ultimately think there's something to it. I've spent a long time wondering why I'm such a freak (you know…sitting at parties, rubbing the tops of my thighs awkwardly, etc.) But then I realized, there really is something to this each-one-of-us-is-as-special-as-a-snowflake self-esteemy "BS". Richard Dawkins aside, your DNA IS unique, it IS the only one of its kind in the world, as is your upbringing. Helps you get caught when you commit a crime, helps people trace back your alcoholism (can we phrase that too, as potential?), helps, perhaps, in articulating the way we think and our unique presence in society. That, I think, is potential. Between 6.75 billion different DNA codes, 6.75 billion unique narratives, I think there might be 6.75 billion potentials.
And, well, while much of this potential must comprise of hard work, I think that if we are astute, we can…should…see the ways that the universe (or god, or fate, or random chains of biochemical reactions) lets us find a hole in the fabric of 6.75 billion largely unexceptional experiences. I'm thinking here of weird moments we might not even be privy to, like when we're the only ones to get an 'A' on the paper, that sort of think. Where we have our unique insight reflected back at us favorably…and then the universe seems to lapse back to its usual ways and we question whether it even happened at all: bills, drudgery, social anxiety, being second-guessed by your online readership at all times…etc.
So, now I guess the closing thought should be some way to tie these 6.75 billion strangers together…maybe empathy, or kindness if you want, is the way to go. The thing is, I'm not even sure there is a way to get any of those 6.75 people together properly and civilly…it's nigh impossible to get two people in a "loving" relationship to do that in the long term. So maybe we don't KNOW that empathy will get us through and get our needs communicated on a field of mutual openess, but it seems like probably the safest bet when both parties come from completely different turf (even if they woke up next to you that morning)?
Thanks…as I said, I think about this stuff a lot, but we'll see how actually verbalizing it stands up…and yeah, I guess I do want to be recognized for the genius I really am. Come on…just a little?
Posted by Andrea on 08/08/2008 at 07:24pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
It is very true that focusing on what you are not doing and what you might have done (not living up to your potential) is defeating and delusional. Your potential can never be calculated because the circumstances of life are ever changing–and so there is no fixed point defining our potential that any of us can dwell on. Our potential is more tied to being able to make the most of our changing circumstances–and this is a challenge for each moment–and not something that can be measured.
A better way to frame it is looking at life as an opportunity to learn and grow. Nobody is perfect, so instead of looking at the half-empty: "I am not living up to my potential," people should try to get in touch with the optimism that gets them out of bed.
Tom Hanks' character Tom Nolan in Cast Away states this quite well:
"I couldn't even kill myself the way I wanted to. I had power over *nothing*. And that's when this feeling came over me like a warm blanket. I knew, somehow, that I had to stay alive. Somehow. I had to keep breathing. Even though there was no reason to hope. And all my logic said that I would never see this place again. So that's what I did. I stayed alive. I kept breathing. And one day my logic was proven all wrong because the tide came in, and gave me a sail. . . And I know what I have to do now. I gotta keep breathing. Because tomorrow the sun will rise. Who knows what the tide could bring?"
I say don't measure your life with coffee spoons; but do live passionately, with an evolving potential that is guided by hope and an eagerness to grow and learn.
Posted by Careerguyd on 08/09/2008 at 07:22am | permalink | Reply to this comment
There are a lot of reasons to stay in bed besides not being able to face the day.
Posted by Infinite Potential on 08/09/2008 at 07:56am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I like the message of being kind and having meaningful goals that fit in with who you are and what you want from your life.
I don't like the whole thing about getting out of bed. Could you be dealing with post-divorce depression? Please don't project it on to the rest of us. My life is filled with happiness. Sure, it's filled with other things as well but I have a fundamental base of happiness and contentment. I appreciate that not everyone is as lucky as I am but people should know that happiness is possible. There are plenty of people who live meaningful, satisfying and, yes, happy lives.
I don't think it would be helpful to anyone in a suicidal state to read your comment that you wonder why more of us don't kill ourselves. Comments like that could tip someone over the edge.
Posted by Caitlin on 08/09/2008 at 08:39am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I disagree with the argument put forth in this post. You most certain CAN "live up to your potential" and conversely, not meet it. I am an example of someone who hasn't lived up to their potential, I recognize it and am now changing it because I desire to. I have always done well in school and on the job according to other people, but by my own account I know I can do much better. The problem is, excelling at school and at previous jobs was not something I wanted to do. It was something that happened to be the result of me being OBLIGATED to be in those environments. In my own mind, I was giving the bare minimum. To others, I was doing very well. Right now I have defined my career goals for myself and am working toward entrepreneurial goals. It's the hardest thing I've ever worked for in my life, and I feel myself being challenged every day. Success-wise I am not even close to "making it" yet. Personally, however, I am doing great, because I am now using my potential for something fulfilling to me.
Posted by CS on 08/09/2008 at 09:20am | permalink | Reply to this comment
As someone else said, you struck a chord with me as well–YOU ROCK, Penelope. And this is not from a twentysomething, but an overachieving-to-be-successful 40something who needs this validation.
Posted by TE on 08/09/2008 at 09:52am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I agree that any goal other than being kind is pointless. Situations change and crises happen, causing even the smartest goals and plans go in the crapper every day. But we can all control how we treat others. On many days, life being what it is, it DOES take everything we have just to be kind.
That's because "kind" is the OPPOSITE of "nice." Often the kindest thing to do–telling the truth, saying "no," letting someone work their own way out of trouble they got themselves into–is the hardest way for the kind person and not "nice" at all for the recipient of the kindness-or at least not at first. A truly kind person is not a patsy or a pushover. He or she takes the long view and seeks to encourage others rather than to comfort them inappropriately.
Posted by Jane Greer on 08/09/2008 at 12:01pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
This is so true – especially how people don't always succeed in their careers because they never learned about being kind or don't have good social skills. I've had people comment on my "successes" and wonder how I "always did well in interviews" or whatever. I know why, I am positive, friendly, empathetic and I listen to the people talking. Simple stuff, but so many people are too self-centered to get it.
Posted by Laurie/Halo Secretarial on 08/09/2008 at 12:18pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Sorry that your experiences with "living up to your potential" has negative experiences associated with it such as being weak, bitchy etc. – but don't castigate the phrase/cliche for the rest of us (and the truth is, you can't).
In the right context it is used by someone who knows you/I can deliver better than what we've delivered and call it out.
P, if the calling for all is only to be kind, then there would be no performance reviews, no performance plans, everyone would receive equal pay, there are no 1st place ribbons etc. No purpose for Tony Robbins or coaches (life, sports or otherwise)…
Sorry for all of you and your angst, but I guess you'll have to learn to be kind while smelling the rest of our BS.
Posted by William on 08/09/2008 at 01:08pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"Reaching one's full potential" is a catch phrase used by teachers and therapists who support children with disabilities. Within that context, it means that a child with a disability has a certain set of limitations that impede that child from growing and achieving what other children would achieve.
In a magazine for parents of such children, called "Exceptional Parent," a mother writes "We must withhold judgments about our child's potential and spend our time learning and helping him discover who he is".
So, when I add this comment to Penelope's post and all the replies, I have more pieces to the puzzle that I am struggling with: What can my child achieve? Will he ever live independently?
Will engagement and connectedness and kindness and optimism be enough if he cannot make a living and live independently? Will society be kind to him, or will he be forgotten in a "group home" at some point?
Thanks to all who wrote about their self-reflection. My child will probably never self-reflect about this issue, never try to find meaning, or choose or interpret among the various meanings of "full potential". His unselfconsciousness is actually a beautiful thing. But his mother (me) does worry . . .
CAK
Posted by chris on 08/09/2008 at 02:18pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Greetings -
I came across your blog several times while researching Generation X blogs, links and content. I am on a quest for great 50 Gen X Bloggers from 50 States. I'm assuming you are from Boston and must add your great blog to my list. So, you now represent the State of Mass on my GenX Blog list. Thanks for all your advice and the nods to Generation X. We need it.
Posted by Jennifer James McCollum on 08/09/2008 at 03:46pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Having thought about this overnight (a good thing; it means I engaged with the post at a high level) I'm inclined to disagree.
People tend to stumble through life. They tend to go day to day, without stepping back and thinking about what kind of person they really want to be.
The concept of "potential" is a small call to take that step back and think about what kind of person you could be, if you weren't so busy being who you are.
It can be what makes you take stock and change all those things about your life that keep you from being who you want to be.
In my case, I spent years working in big offices in big organizations in big tall buildings. Not infrequently, I would remember the words of a Joni Mitchell song, "you could have been more – than a name on a door – in the 33rd floor – in the air."
After a while, the thought of being more – of potential, as it is – made me pretty much upend my life and have a go at being someone different.
Did I achieve my potential? Did I achieve superlativeness? Am I wonderful and full of cosmic energy? Not even close. All the same, I think I am a bit better off for having been pushed to try to be more what I dreamed of being.
Posted by A Name On The Door on 08/09/2008 at 05:23pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think we might be missing the point by concerning ourselves with the meaning of "nice" vs "kind." If we get walked on for being either nice or kind, then we probably don't quite have it yet.
I'm just guessing, but I think the author is trying to tell us that we shouldn't blame others, ourselves, or even our parents for our lack of success in the workplace. When we bad-mouth the inmates, we create enemies who reciprocate in kind (pardon my pun).
And while we should own our own mistakes (getting defensive in the workplace is never well received), we should do it with an attitude of trying to fix the problem and avoid its recurrence.
By taking proactive steps to improve every situation, they won't be talking about your potential. They will be trying to get you on their team. And if they aren't, by all means find a less dysfunctional employer and start enjoying your life.
Posted by Graham on 08/09/2008 at 09:17pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I don't worry about people's unused potential, but I do worry about them (and myself) not using their strengths. So much capability wasted but … it's not possible to be 100% productive, effective, etc. … but first you have to be at peace with yourself …
Don't forget…
Elwood P. Dowd: Years ago my mother used to say to me, she'd say, "In this world, Elwood, you must be" – she always called me Elwood – "In this world, Elwood, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant." Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me.
Posted by Theresa Quintanilla on 08/09/2008 at 09:50pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
very well written…. especially the second point about the world not being a race.
Penelope.. you are the best! :)
Posted by VT on 08/10/2008 at 08:42am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Best. Post. Ever. At least for me. I often beat myself up about not being in a 'more successful' place. (But I'm very nice, really! Always quite popular (though not with management)). Aha! AHA!… : )
Posted by Margaret W on 08/10/2008 at 10:00am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Great post. It really got me to thinking because I was that kid who did great in school (mainly because my parents would have disowned me if I hadn't) but never developed great social skills. I am now taking the baby steps to overcoming that hurdle and wish I focused a little more on making friends rather than making straight A's.
I do think that we are all born with a purpose, but I too hate the idea that we are always racing for the proverbial fruit on a stick. At this point in my life, other than showing my kids how to treat others with respect, patience and tolerance, I have nothing to prove to anyone. I have posted before about the need to really slow down and enjoy my life. It is simply too short to spend worrying about living up to "my potential" which really is just another way to say someone else's expectations. Well said.
Posted by Kristina Summers on 08/10/2008 at 04:04pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
lol.. interesting observation that waking up in the morning is an optimistic decision.
love your sense of humor at chrisB's comments lol
Posted by isha akula on 08/10/2008 at 06:21pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
There's this one guy who jumped off the San Francisco bridge and was one of the .5% who survived. He said that as soon as he jumped he had this clear revelation – that everything that was wrong in his life could be fixed except for what he had just done.
I think that's why more of us don't kill ourselves. It can all be fixed.
Posted by melanie gao on 08/11/2008 at 02:32am | permalink | Reply to this comment
"When you stop looking at the world as a competition, then you can stop wondering why you’re not coming in first place."
Thanks for this post. Competition has replaced soulfulness; some of us born into competitive societies are never even aware that there is something else other than competition or one-upmanship. As a result, we cannot help but feel insecure and like a failure no matter what we do. If you run in that race, you just can't win.
Posted by J Ga on 08/11/2008 at 05:15am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I’ve been listening to the thread on this one, and have to add another thought or two.
At the far end of the ‘realising your potential’ scale, why not ask an Olympic medalist whether it was worth realising their potential? You can bet they’ll tell you how tough it’s been, how bloody hard they’ve worked and how many sacrifices they’ve made. But having watched a couple of medalists being interviewed, just look at how alive they are knowing they’ve nailed it.
Towards the other end of the scale, you’ve got the people who find getting out of bed each day to be an act of faith, which is probably the majority of people. Should they forget about the arbitrary, amorphous notion of living up to their potential?
No.
By all means forget about what the self-help industry has preached for too long, and I agree that life isn’t about competition and it isn’t about achieving goals, but without the idea of realising potential there’s a real lack of meaning, and it’s by engaging with the things that mean something that we step into whatever potential we have.
It takes guts, it can be bloody hard and sometimes it just plain sucks, but if we’re participating in what matters and what has meaning to us, then living up to your potential most certainly isn’t BS.
Posted by Steve Errey on 08/11/2008 at 06:49am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This is a very wise post, and it sounds like it comes from hard-earned, real life lessons learned. Good for you – if you, and we, let go of this delusional baloney we'll all be better off. Great post.
I was thinking about another piece of BS this weekend – the blanket prescription to "get outside of your comfort zone."
Great advice if getting out of a particular comfort zone is good for you, what you really want to do, gets you where you want to go, etc. (e.g., I want to be a doctor but am afraid to apply since no one in my family has ever gone beyond college – in that case, stretch and be happy).
Total flaming BS if the advice is to do this, simply to do this (I don't want to jump a motorcycle over a burning car, but gosh darn it, I've got to get out of my comfort zone).
More flaming BS is "YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CAREER PLAN" if said by a controlling person not involved in your career… Enough said (warning, warning, invasive control freak on the loose….).
Rules are for the small minded, and these pieces of advice are the kind of things that our parents used to tell us when they didn't have any solid advice to give, but knew that they "should" be pushing us around and these seemed like easy, obvious statements.
Posted by MJ on 08/11/2008 at 09:06am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Raw and honest. I love it. When I think back about people who are no longer in my life, I don't think about how beautiful and accomplished they were. I think about how kind they were. Because ultimately, my perception of the world revolves around me, and colors my interaction with everyone else.
So, if you want to leave a lasting impression on someone else – be kind… or be mean. They'll remember that.
And the part about why more people don't kill themselves reminds me of one of my favorite quotes:
"It is no measure of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society." – Krishnamurti
Posted by deepali on 08/11/2008 at 09:14am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I also appreciate Chris's addition of of how "living up to potential" is used with kids with disabilities – the use of the concept there makes some sense.
But with developmentally normal kids, "you better live up to your potential" from family invariably means "you better expletive expletive be a doctor or lawyer, expletive, 'cause I didn't bring you into this world to waste your life being an expletive [teacher, minister, writer, add any title that isn't all about the $$$$ and status]." From teachers it just means "don't give me any problems, kid."
Posted by MJ on 08/11/2008 at 09:18am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I like this post very much and agree with it. I just have one question:
Who are you and what have you done with Penelope Trunk???
Posted by Julie O'Malley on 08/11/2008 at 09:39am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thanks for the thoughtful post, Penelope. A great way to start the week.
Posted by Ron Shewchuk on 08/11/2008 at 10:45am | permalink | Reply to this comment
A pretty good post with a positive message, and it does make me feel a little better about myself however,
Regarding…
It’s no coincidence that everyone who is walking around bitching that they are not living up to their potential is talking about how they should be more successful at work. Because “living up to potential” is really just code for “not being recognized as the talented genius that I am.”
So many people judge themselves by the job they have or the money they make or the car they drive or the 6000 sq ft house overlooking the peasants of the city. For those people, this post is wonderful advice and totally applies.
That being said, some of us have fell victim to grading ourselves that way and only recently realize that career success and income is nowhere close to what potential really is. I'm 41 now and if I graded myself by what I have accomplished in Business and in possessions, all while be respectful and kind, I would say "I actually have lived up to my potential." But what is it that I really wanted in life? Was it to have all these things, live in the burbs in a big house, hold a respectful position in a large corporation?
No, I have not lived up to my potential because I didn't follow my dream of earning a living making music. Music was a risky challenge and if I didn't make it big, I would have been a struggling artist trying to make ends meet. Here's the sad but true fact. I have more respect for that person that tried their dream and continue to make a living doing what they absolutely love then a person (sadly myself included) that chose the easy route of business and corporate America. Yes I said it, that's the easy route, if you can't make it in corporate America you are Stupid and/or Lazy (no offense). You CAN do what you love for a living, but you need to decide just how important "Things" are to you.
I'm not "bitching that I am not living up to my potential" but I am willing to admit it.
Posted by Danny on 08/11/2008 at 11:58am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow – based on most of the comments so far, I'm very much in the minority, but I'm going to say that I totally disagree with you.
"First of all, getting up in the morning is very hard. It is fundamentally an act of optimism. Because surely you have already realized that most days are not full of happiness."
If your life is like this, then you are doing something wrong. You've been saying all this BS about how GenX, GenY, Gen XYZ, etc. are taking cahrge of their lifes and making meaningful choices, instead of being stuck as a 9-5 drone, and how all of that is making their lifes wonderful. Seems to me that this directly contradicts today's posting. Personally, I think the various generation labels are mostly BS, but that's a different discussion. PT, you of all people, ought to be living a very satisfied life. You are practicing what you preach, aren't you? How is it that your days aren't filled with happiness then?
Posted by Dave on 08/11/2008 at 12:33pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
On a personal level, I can agree with the importance of being kind. But for me it was as simple as this: I asked myself one day what I would like people to remember about me when I'm gone, and the answer was that I want them to remember someone who was truly kind, and who touched their lives with kindness. I try to keep that goal before me always. It's amazing how it melts anger sometimes!
Posted by Angie on 08/11/2008 at 01:30pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Ahh, Penelope, you've been watching the Olympics and the beach volleyball, haven't you? It's ok that you moved on…forgive yourself. Forgiveness is letting go of the wish for a better Past.
Posted by Steve C on 08/11/2008 at 01:42pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
God, I love this post. I disagree with much, maybe most, of PT's advice but this is wise and dead-on accurate.
Once, when I was still drinking the 'A student good child' Kool Aid I made myself miserable because I worried that I wasn't living up to my potential – I was not simultaneously a senator, CEO and millionaire. Never mind that what I excel at and love have nothing to do with those… what are feelings but things that we stomp on anyway? I still remember calling my parents from work one night at 8 pm, crying and begging them to forgive me and love me "despite" my failures (my failure of not being a senator, CEO and millionaire at 31).
F___ living up to your potential. That's a "make a lot of cash to impress the Jonses and your relatives" motivation. He who dies after closing the most M&A acquisitions – dies after closing the most acquisition. Da dum dum, the end. Not so impressive any more, is it?
Excel at who and what you are. Being kind is a nice start. Conforming is a tripwire.
Posted by MJ on 08/11/2008 at 03:30pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Okay, some good points here. But let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater, shall we? (Because then all you have is a wet, badly injured baby.)
While "living up to your potential" is sometimes over-rated or used abusively, it's NOT total BS. It's a good concept frequently misused.
When I review my son's homeschool assignments and say, "Son, you can do better work than this. You are not living up to your potential" it's because we BOTH know that he was goofing off, distracted, unfocused, or unengaged with his homework, so he's made sloppy, careless mistakes. (We both know that he knows that 3x+2x=5x, not 6x, or that "exaggerated" has two Gs in it, for example.) When used in this way, "not living up to your potential" is a warning that means, "we both know you can do better, and I expect you to focus more on your work."
That does not negate the fact that there are abusive bosses out there who will use that phrase to scare the bejeebers out of a less-than-assertive employee, so that the employer can squeeze more and more work out of an increasingly overwhelmed, burnt out employee. I've had a few of those. And it was a wonderful feeling to LEAVE.
As for being kind, sometimes it works, sometimes not. Sometimes you have to throw kind out the window and be hard as nails mean. But not nearly as often as some people think. "Nice" will almost always get you trod on by people who take advantage. "Kind" knows when to pull off the velvet gloves and start using some iron fist.
Posted by Editormum on 08/11/2008 at 03:41pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
@MJ "Once, when I was still drinking the ‘A student good child’ Kool Aid I made myself miserable because I worried that I wasn’t living up to my potential – I was not simultaneously a senator, CEO and millionaire."
I think you are making the same sort of mistake as those commentors who equated being nice with being a pushover. Maybe folks just need to redefine what their potential is. MJ, I think you said it very well when you said "Excel at who and what you are. Being kind is a nice start." That's certainly closer to my definition of "potential". Am I doing something that makes a difference to somebody, somewhere? Am I doing the best that I can within my limits? If I'm not, then I'm not living up to my potential. It's up to me to define what I consier to be success. My definition doesn't include things like CEO, senator or millionaire. I think I could have been any or all of those had those goals been important to me, but they weren't. I've seen and done things that are important to me, and that is success – for me. The replicant in the movie BladeRunner said "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate." I can't claim the same, but I can certainly understand the sentiment.
Posted by Dave on 08/11/2008 at 03:58pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
This phrase of "living up to ones potential" doesn't even make sense from the grammatical. It gives me no additional insight about myself, nor the world around me. In science, we learn the concepts of potential & kinetic energy. (The rock sitting on the top of the hill represents potential energy) It has great potential to roll fast down the hill, thereby reaching its kinetic state. However, unless a force pushes it, it will never reach it's kinetic state. Humans are much like the rock on top of the hill. We sit and wait for a force to move us, to motivate us. The people who move and shake this world don't wait. They spend time on creating kinetic situations. They seem characteristically impatient, busy and, full of more ideas than they know what to do with. I appreciate people like this. We should all concentrate more on "living in our own kinetic state" rather than constantly examining the endless variety of potentials. Good post Penelope ! Jim B
Posted by Jim Bell on 08/11/2008 at 04:19pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Well said! I am one of those "nice" people who is a serious underachiever and not living up to my potential. I have an inability to say no to a project even though I'm already stressed out beyone comprenhension trying to keep my head above water and make a buck for the company. So all I'm really accomplishing "up to my potential" is being stressed out and shorting my clients who deserve better. I am working on saying "no" nicely to get myself out of this mess but it's tough if it goes against everything you were ever taught. Rock on sister!
Posted by Betsy on 08/11/2008 at 04:26pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Gotta disagree with you on this one. I'm going to go out on a limb and defend the Jim's of the world (top of post string) — being kind is a good way to live, but don't expect to be recognized and/or not be taken advantage of when you are kind at work.
A *lot* of people here are splitting hairs on the definitions of Nice vs. Kind. I don't think the verbiage makes any difference. What I think stops many people from feeling that they are doing something worthy of their talents is the inability to stand up for themselves and ask for what they want, early and often.
I have put myself in Jim's position many times, always thinking that I was "doing the right thing", working hard, treating others with respect, going above and beyond the call of duty to make someone else's job and life easier, etc., etc. Someone's bound to notice, right? Yes, they did in fact notice. But when push came to shove, although every person I've ever worked with says I'm a team player and I was a phenomenal employee, I was passed over for promotions and big salary increases every time.
Lesson learned: No one will take care of you but you. So this "being kind" business is only one part of a very large and complicated equation. Yes, maybe some of your readers need the reminder to treat others with humanity and respect, but I would venture that the vast majority of people who read career advice columns are already too "kind" for their own good.
Posted by Jennifer on 08/11/2008 at 04:48pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
As always, great advice! One of the lessons that has helped me most, both professionally and personally, is to 'be kind to myself.' This bit of wisdom echoes your point of not buying into delusional notions of "your potential."
Thanks, again!
Posted by Ellen Hart on 08/11/2008 at 06:41pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Jennifer – I believe there is a difference between kindness and being a pushover.
People might not openly reward you for your act of kindness, but unless they're an absolute asshole, I guarentee they'll remember an act of kindness for a long time to come.
And when you really need a helping hand…
Posted by Michael on 08/11/2008 at 07:40pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Being kind in itself is necessary that your not selfish about it. some of the people that have commented on here have been going on and on about being kind as being a doormat. Im sure that wasnt the author's intention. Be kind for the sanity of your conscience. Be a good person.
Posted by isha akula on 08/11/2008 at 08:46pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Being kind will draw two kinds of people to you….those that you want to call friends and collegues and those that take advantage. Still, what goes around comes around. Learn from both the negative influences as well as the positive and enjoy the journey.
I once had a teacher that got us to write our own headstones as speach titles….He said, "How do you wish to be remembered?"
Posted by Chris Bauman on 08/12/2008 at 02:07am | permalink | Reply to this comment
"I'm doing the best I feel like doing!"
Posted by J on 08/12/2008 at 06:48am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Kindness becomes more 3-D for me when I turn the lens a quarter turn to reveal generosity and altruism. I know better what to do when I expand the definition in this way: I know to do acts of kindness, generosity and altruism because I think of myself/I am a generous/kind/altrustic person–NOT because I expect to get anything back. Not because I may some day need to call in a favor. Not because I want to teach my children these virtures . . . but only because I AM KIND . . . I only have control of myself, and I am satisfied that I AM KIND.
Interesting, the degree to which we have settled upon kindness as the most important/popular of the 4 elements that PT suggests . . . She also suggested Optimism, Engagement and Connectedness for our consideration, as pivotal . . .
Freud said that there are two elements: love and work. PT writes her blog about the intersection of love and work. If balance is possible. If bringing love and work together is possible and desirable . . .
So I have put the 4 elements, Optimism, Engagement, Connectedness and Kindness to the test–do they apply to love AND work? Do they apply to everything? For me, they do. In the old catechism, I was taught about the necessity of faith and hope–which may be found within Optimism. Likewise, Connectedness and Kindness are associated with Love, Loving-kindness. And to me, Engagement is staying-with-it, the hard work of perseverance, the mark of an indomitable spirit. So this value system works for me, past and present.
PT, you should run for president or pope–you've come up with the all-inclusive value system!
CAK
Posted by chris on 08/12/2008 at 08:52am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Cant agree with you on this, I would rather live up to my potential in my own terms. You seem to have made this too complicated to be true for me.
Posted by ciol on 08/12/2008 at 10:13am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Whose potential? Whose standards?
So many writers from different areas of life concur with you. Sylvia Browne, Brian Tracy and many others.
I always remember what Steven Covey said:
"We are spiritual beings on a human journey."
Surely figuring out why we are here, you know, the meaning of life thing, has to have some bearing on our life choices. Although climbing the corporate ladder may be it for a few, for many others there has to be something more.
How many people on their death beds have wished that they had put more hours in at the office?
Posted by Rob Lewis on 08/12/2008 at 10:26am | permalink | Reply to this comment
of course where as in School and Uni marking/grading people is used to rank them at work its 99% of the time abused to manage down the pay budget.
Posted by Maurice on 08/12/2008 at 11:21am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I had to laugh a little at getting up in the morning being used as a metaphor for optimism.
If you've been in bed for more than 4 or 5 hours, you will HAVE TO GO when you wake up. If you stay in bed too long, it just gets more urgent.
No matter how much life sucks, it will suck more if you don't get out of the sack and head for the bathroom.
Posted by Jim C. on 08/12/2008 at 11:55am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I've already posted a comment earlier but for some reason this post – latest Blog entry from Penelope has been on my mind. Probably because of the one little comment she snuck in there… "I spend a lot of time wondering why more of us don’t kill ourselves, and I never come up with a great answer."
Anyway, I heard an Alanis Moressette song today that, for me, anwers that question. We are good, it is good to be kind, it is even more important that you are kind to yourself. Here are the lyrics, but you need to listen to the song to experience the feeling of what she is saying.
"That I Would Be Good"
that I would be good even if I did nothing
that I would be good even if I got the thumbs down
that I would be good if I got and stayed sick
that I would be good even if I gained ten pounds
that I would be fine even if I went bankrupt
that I would be good if I lost my hair and my youth
that I would be great if I was no longer queen
that I would be grand if I was not all knowing
that I would be loved even when I numb myself
that I would be good even when I am overwhelmed
that I would be loved even when I was fuming
that I would be good even if I was clingy
that I would be good even if I lost sanity
that I would be good
whether with or without you
Posted by Danny on 08/12/2008 at 12:44pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
How does this fit in with the Gen X and Yers who job hop? I started to change my career path significantly by completing a grad program in education and now I'm somewhere similar to where I was when I started my program. I did not change careers but I've changed jobs at least four times since 2003.
I often wonder if I should try teaching again, if I should pursue a whole different avenue or if I should stay in pr/communications/editing. Since this is a career blog, I was hoping to get some advice that could help me.
As far as I can tell I've been nice all along. But I don't often get very close to many people and I feel lacking because I don't have the money or the type of home that allows me to entertain people. I think people want to be entertained by others more than they want to be treated kindly by others.
I'm often bored, overworked and poor. I would like to be rich and appropriately challenged but I would even take poor and appropriately challenged. Maybe I could be nicer to myself. I truly don't believe I'm living up to my potential and simply the thought that I'm not living up to my potential shames me. I feel embarrassed to be myself.
Posted by cjbk on 08/12/2008 at 02:46pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I also want to say that if there were more kind patient mentors and kind patient parents, we would all be more well adjusted. I think it's worthwhile to be happy and positive but when you are the only optimistic person around, you begin to question yourself and you begin to lose your positive energy.
A good subject has been broached with this post.
Posted by cjbk on 08/12/2008 at 02:50pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
We measure others using our own yardstick, biasing the results with our own limitations. Unfortunately, that's not a fair measure. The best method is to develop your own standard. People will certainly let you know when your standard is below theirs, providing you the opportunity to improve your standard.
Posted by Todd Rhoad on 08/12/2008 at 07:34pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
You seem to frame "living up to your potential" as a consequence of a competitive world.
Posted by cioz on 08/12/2008 at 07:36pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Time to call out the emperor's new clothes, people.
What we have here is a brilliant blog entry. Why? Because it has a controversial title and controversial content, which translates to increased reader reaction and involvement. Why does PT have such a successful blog? For one, she is not afraid to say anything which may seem shocking–and often she does. With over 100 comments on this entry, PT has done it again. Kudos for maintaining a blog that arrouses so much interest and lives up to its potential as one of the hottest blogs out there.
Posted by Careerguyd on 08/12/2008 at 11:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I agree with Lee Potts: kindness is different from nice. Kindness is about the climate you create around you, and how you move through the world. Nice always seems to be about pleasing someone else (see definitions!)–and often risking little (I am a "nice" person trying to reform, so I understand the dynamics of "nice"). This was a BIG wake-up call for me. As a teacher I have told students–even recently!–that they aren't living up to their potential, and it always felt wrong, although I knew what I meant. I meant, you made the choice to put your time into something other than my class, because if you had put your time into this work, you would have earned a better grade. Basic and, yes, motherly perhaps, but more on target in clarity than "potential" crap. The first is a judgment, but the second is a statement of fact without judgment. Actually, as a teacher my headbang came at exactly that: I need to say the second, not the first because the point is (aha!): the student made a choice how to spend her/his time/energy/ability/talent, and it was not in this category (my class)according to the requirements I laid out in the beginning of the course, and the consequence is the grade he/she earned. And because I have had it said to me (and had the same "explain please" reaction as my students), I can see that it is about choices, about how I chose to spend my time/energy/talent/ability–that didn't jibe with the expectations of my superiors. But (and here's the catch) if they never made their expectations clear (transparency and clarity), or if they changed the rules of the game in mid-stream without telling me (super-secret probation), that's another thing (remind myself of this, when I am "the Boss"). If they were clear, however, and I chose to do something else, to use my time/energy/talent/ability somewhere else, then I don't deserve the raise/promotion/bonus I could get–unless I can make the argument that what I did was equal to or better than their expected goals. My responsibility as a worker is to be certain I understand the goals my boss sets for me (ask questions, ask for clarifications, get it in writing, negotiate, set terms I can acheive and live with) and work for those–or let him/her know why I can't (family, personal, boredom, unreasonable terms, etc.) and move on. Has nothing to do with niceness. And kindness is simply necessary to making the world a place we all can live in–I think of it as karma, actually. What goes around….you know the rest.
Posted by Gretchen on 08/13/2008 at 02:44am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm kind of late to the thread, but here's my two cents:
I agree with Penelope, though "nice" and "kind" may have been bad choices to describe those goals. I think the important thing is that you approach everything in an honorable way.
Niceness can be mistaken for weakness. But people usually equate "nice" with "do anything anyone tells you to without a confrontation". People will (metaphorically) walk over broken glass to avoid confrontations.
I get what Penelope has said in other posts that kind of links into what she's saying here. Don't be evil, or manipulative, or two-faced. Operate with honor, and honesty. If you have a problem, approach other people with respect and empathy – don't just jump to conclusions.
It's taken me a long time to stop beating myself up with the yardstick of measuring myself to other people. I am almost 40 and for years was hard on myself for not owning a home, or being in upper management, or owning a car. But I stopped hitting myself with that stick, and I am successful in the ways I define as successful. I now have the career I always wanted, and am damn thankful I don't own a car when gas is almost $4.50 a gallon.
Posted by Patrick on 08/13/2008 at 11:03am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Glad I came back to this blog after many months away…Penelope’s focus on this is spot on. Meeting potentials is something I consider at 3 AM staring at the ceiling and seeing what I’m not rather than what I am.
Some folks have mentioned their age, which I find interesting in terms of getting a sense of where people are in the birth, school, work, death continuum. I’ll be 53 in a couple months. To be kind, engaged, optimistic and connected are the things that are my big achievements in life, no doubt about it. Everything else has been easy in comparison…given how I grew up, this was the tough stuff.
In his book, The Five People You Meet in Heaven, Mitch Albom compares children to pieces of glass. Some parents leave smudges, others scratches and chips, and a few leave shattered pieces. Sometimes pieces have mold marks and flaws from manufacture. They serve to make it special without undermining the integrity of the piece.
I’m just starting to understand how important it is look at myself as a whole, not just see the scratches and flaws.
Posted by David on 08/13/2008 at 01:19pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Your article is quite unique and I enjoyed the read. I think that living to your potential is more of an internal review and a self evaluating feature. When someone does not feel that they are living to their potential – what are they actually saying other than "I felt that based on my skills I would be here, but rather I well behind that." In not so many terms, they are recognizing a broken part of their own self or better yet they are realizing that they are not the person that they thought they were. Not bad to say that, but it will get you thinking. Living to ones potential is a personal choice and is done daily from the time you open to your eyes till the end of your day. Each and every time you give it your all – well you have lived to your potential. The outcome – oh, that is up to God.
Posted by Jason Monastra on 08/13/2008 at 03:09pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"Living up to your potential" is just about having goals for your self. I wouldn't read too much into it beyond that.
"The answer, of course, is that most of getting what you want at work is about having social skills, and school doesn’t measure that."
I don't know about college grades, but income correlates with performance in high school. I suspect the same holds true for college, but to a lesser extent. People who graduate from good schools with good grades have a lot of options in life that other people do not.
Posted by Steve on 08/13/2008 at 03:42pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow! what a lot of feedback, I wish I had time to read it all.
If anyone remembers Christmas Morning as a kid? there was no problem getting out of bed back then!
Intelligence is to live every day as if it was Christmas Morning. OK presents every day would get boring, so learning to appreciate the subtle pleasure of dealing with difficult situations, and even failing at the task, is crucial. Failure is just a new beginning with extra knowledge. There is no reason to be stuck in a lousey job. move on. even if the pay is worse! set your goal to be waking up excited at the prospect of a whole new day's adventure.
Posted by Alastair Carnegie on 08/13/2008 at 04:43pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penny,
I guess from all that has gone before, we can say that living up to your potential is an individual thing.
We disappoint others when we don't do what they expect of us, but the really important thing is, do we even know what we should expect of ourselves? And for each of us it is likely something different!
Many of us spend most of our time going through mindless endeavors to entertain ourselves, or to fulfil our self or externally imposed duties and responsibilities. Wouldn't that time be better spent finding out who we are inside, what we value as opposed to what others think we should value, and then working to go after that ideal for as long as it holds true to us? Yes, these ideals do sometimes change.
Potential is infinite, the actualization of that infinite possibility depends on our individual personalities, our values, and the courage we have to travel our own path to that infinite possibility.
My 2centsworth.
Posted by Dale on 08/13/2008 at 05:00pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
P.S. Alastair Carnegie I like the way you think, but that too takes courage. And the later in life you come to that realization, the more courage it takes:)
Posted by Dale on 08/13/2008 at 05:03pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thanks Dale, I think the Native American Red Indians taught their children to conquer fear. Early teens are a good age to start. Supervision is essential to avoid fatalities, and it must be voluntary participation. The 'Braves' are there to protect the 'Thinkers'. there is no loss of honour or prestige from not playing suicidal games. There are plenty of intellectual victories to be won!;-D
Posted by Alastair Carnegie on 08/13/2008 at 05:21pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Part of living is growing which is expanding our personal potential.
Jessica Bond
Posted by Jessica Bond on 08/13/2008 at 06:12pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Nice post.
Speaking frankly, I began to enjoy my own life more when I realized that my vocation is actually a means to an end ("heaven"), and not an end unto itself ("he who dies with the most toys wins.").
Suicide won't get you into heaven — but a life of heroic, self-sacrificing virtue will.
Harry Joiner
Posted by 97 Job Search Tips on 08/13/2008 at 08:20pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Bravo! Harry Joiner,
If you noted, or if you were maing reference to my comment, I did qualify, mountaineers are not suicidal, but the risks they take are close to suicidal. I chickened out climbing mount Kenya. I had the perfect excuse, Mountain Sickness! Phew! what a relief. but my Aunty in her 50s, returned with a beaming smile, that made me slightly envious. Fear will often find a convenient excuse.
As for Heaven, if you live according to your admirable philosophy, Heaven is already knocking at your door. May you live with my sincere blessings amongst "The Blessed".
Posted by Alastair Carnegie on 08/13/2008 at 09:08pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I feel a certain affection for the late Anthony De Mello's views on worldly success, in his book, "Awareness"
If I recall correctly, it goes -
"I'm an ass. You're an ass. What's the problem?"
Posted by Mark McClure / Career Change on 08/14/2008 at 08:08am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Another thing I've noticed about the limits of "nice"- this is a HUGE problem for many women, and I count myself among them. I remember sitting in a coffee shop, on a break from some $7 per hour temp job (this was 1988) and hearing two men discuss how the minimum salary they would not consider an insult was $60K.
Years later I worked with a woman who, I am sure, considered me a bitch because I said that I thought there was a problem with an organization being staffed with educated women in their late 40s doing clerical work for $30K (in 2007). NO ONE there was living up to their potential. I got the job to get the proverbial foot in the door in a fairly competitive nonprofit arena, but there was no door. I quit within months.
Posted by Barbara Saunders on 08/14/2008 at 10:29am | permalink | Reply to this comment
OK… kindness, civility and humanity are some of the most important things we can offer one another. And for those who are career-driven, it's important to remember that it's not a race – at the "finish line" we're all dead and, mostly, forgotten soon enough. But on the other side of the coin, we must all contribute to the job of life for our race.
There are all kinds of contributions, but the truth is that kindness and civility and humanity will not feed us, clothe us or shelter us from the storm. So we have to do other things too – farm, cook, take care of the kids, educate, invent, build, maintain, explore, defend, buy, sell etc. These are the things we call work. And those of us who contribute less than we could may be "not living up to our potential". Someone may be strong, but too lazy to lift; they may be smart, but not inclined to think.
There are people out there who hide behind the importance of kindness and civility and humanity to excuse themselves from getting in there and making an effort. Those people need to be reminded that food and clothing and shelter are also critical parts of the job of life.
So be kind, by all means… while you're working your arse off and encouraging others to do the same. For me this is the ticket to enjoying life!
Posted by Jonathan on 08/14/2008 at 12:14pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
wow. i really needed to read that just now. even the title jumped up and hit me on the head. in a good way.
my superego's really been giving it to my id lately, and you're right about what you write, and most especially the part about kindness.
getting my head out of my ass, already. thank you.
Posted by stacy on 08/14/2008 at 12:46pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
People With That Brain-Eating Virus Should Really Just Take A Sick Day
http://www.theonion.com/content/opinion/people_with_that_brain_eating
Posted by The Onion on 08/14/2008 at 04:49pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope – There's an old saying, "Noblesse Oblige" – To him much is given, much is expected. Individual potential is very different. For reasons of birth, wealth, genetics, DNA, who knows? Some people have more to give than others. And thank GOD some are driven to live up to theirs.
Because Lister lived up to his potential, we know about bacteria. Because Edison lived up to his potential we have over 1,000 inventions that kept him up nights until he could figure it out. Because Henry Ford lived up to his potential, most people in the US believe it's their birthright to own a car, if not two. Wall street, the internet, NASA, medicine, science – all are gifts to our way of life that were given to us by people who didn't think living up to their inner potential was BS.
It is good to have those character traits you espouse, but it's the people who are driven, who don't quit when things get a little hard, who have an inner need to live up to what they were given that we have the life we have today. If all we did was try and be kind and no one thought this was a race, there wouldn't be any jobs for any of us to go to. Face it – the 'driven ones' are the ones who create jobs, create new ideas, create the governments, cities, inventions, and ideas that make the world go around.
It is easy to sit in front of a machine that has existed all YOUR life and send messages out on an internet that has also existed ALL your life, and cast aspersions at people who encourage others to step outside their little world and contribute all they've got.
Here's what it means when we remind ourselves and others to live up to whatever potential is inherent: You've got something here – the world needs you to use it! Get out of the rut; Stop feeling sorry for yourself; Stop whining. Yes, the world is hard. Do it anyway.
IMHO – for many it IS a race. For a single mother of 4 trying to make ends meet, it's a race. For a guy waking up in a foxhole this morning, it IS a race. For a scientist searching for a cure for AIDS or breast cancer it IS a race.
The point of the statement "Live up to your potential" is that we need to get past our own self sabotaging beliefs and do something useful with our lives.
Perhaps the reason the US trails in innovation, production, math, and now science is that once we achieved the top rung we started sneering at the ideals that got us here. The computer you typed this on is more powerful than the Eniac computer that only 3 decades ago scientists would line up to use. If Hewlett and Packard, Bill Gates, Steve Case, and Steve Jobs had all felt the way you do, you'd be sending this out on mimeograph paper.
Beth Terry
(and yes – I have told all my kids, stepkids, and students to Live UP to what's inside. It gets me through the day, and it has helped all of them find their way in the world.)
Posted by Beth Terry on 08/15/2008 at 09:43am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope… I miss you…
I just don't what I'm going to say to my students if I can't tell them to live up to their potentials!!!
Posted by Roberta on 08/15/2008 at 10:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Good sakes people! I don't think Penelope is telling people to stop achieving. I think she is just telling people to have the right motivations and to recognize when they are just kidding themselves with excuses.
Posted by Grace on 08/16/2008 at 02:26am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Roberta, you and those like you are part of the problem. "Living up to your potential" is encouraging people to focus on standards outside themselves in order to measure their success and self-worth.
It's like saying to someone who's just starting a fitness program "The Olympics are four years away…if you apply yourself you can win a medal."
Boomers like me grew up with a clear notion of what success looked like. That was my potential. That was the standard I've been shooting for…and at 53 it ain't gonna happen. I'm left with several choices. Call myself a failure because I didn't meet someone else's notion of what success looks like, or be introspective, look at my accomplishments, all I've overcome to get where I am, decide for myself what success looks like going forward, and move in the direction that seems right for me.
It's the "Cider House Rules" lesson. Just because someone wrote some rules doesn't mean I have to accept they apply to me.
Posted by David on 08/16/2008 at 05:41am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I would like to report from the other end of the spectrum of existence. Many of us here at http://www.thisoldgrouch.com have lived through the bumps and very real catastrophes of life. If there is such a thing a true potential it is likely that it is seeking us as much as we are looking for it. Simply greeting the day with kindness is an important first step. However, imbibing the moment with love is a choice that is always possible. We most often can not control how our lives unfold, but we can make choices about how we respond to it.
Posted by TD on 08/16/2008 at 08:13am | permalink | Reply to this comment
All of us are here to do God's will. Wanting to reach my potential is wanting to do God's work here on earth. I personally don't find being kind an accomplishment, because it's embedded in my personality.
The day Penelope wrote this article, I told someone at work that I wasn't living up to my potential at a company I have been at for 9 years, and was going to find another job. They promote their friends, as Penelope has also pointed out in another article, calling it social skills. An MBA and a fire in my belly, and all of the niceness in the world isn't getting me anywhere where assholes rule. They hire their own.
Assholes don't like nice people. They are threatened by their existence because it reminds them of who they used to be, until they sold out and decided to be miserable. At my company they roam in packs, mocking and driving out the nice people.
Social skills are not part of the promotion process. Being like the people who are in charge is. People like people who are like them. Assholes like other assholes. It's been that way since high school – remember? Oh and by the way, nothing has changed and the bullies roam the halls – but they are now called management at some companies.
Posted by Andrea on 08/17/2008 at 07:42am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This little video, "The story of a sign," says a lot about being kind and motiviating others to seeing things differently…far better than I can.
http://en.zappinternet.com/video/nilSqaMboM/HISTORIA-DE-UN-LETRERO-T
Posted by David on 08/17/2008 at 07:54am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This is a very timely subject for me. It took me the longest time to realize that when someone tells you that you have potential-they are generally full of crap. You either think I can do the job or I can't. If you think I'm capable, let me do what I need to do. If not, send me on my way.
Don't attempt to "coach me" or "train me".
As for kindness, I think Andrea makes some really good points. I've found that I may be nice, but in a culture where you can treat people any kind of way as long as you produce results, your niceness will be held against. Not only that, but people have ideas about it means to be nice.
Posted by Monica on 08/17/2008 at 08:25pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on the Olympic athletes (like Phelps). Have they lived up to their potential thanks to a striver's mindset, or is what they have achieved a result of being who they are and pursuing goals that are meaningful to them?
Posted by Jun on 08/18/2008 at 02:42am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I wish I could share this with my coworkers without sounding like I am telling them to be nice — most are already a great bunch. I love it that you wrote about this and I hope it blazes through the internet as an important life lesson. The power of kindness cannot be underestimated.
One of the most moving talks I'd ever seen were from the two guys who'd been the first to travel around the world in a balloon (Brian Jones and Bertrand Piccard). They were talking at the Air & Space museum in DC and I kept noticing how they lauded their team, not themselves. They were so humble, each even pouring glasses of water for the other, not themselves. I was almost moved to tears by their subtle yet potent messages of thoughtfulness.
Thanks for pointing out such an important yet overlooked concept.
Posted by spleeness on 08/18/2008 at 08:58am | permalink | Reply to this comment
David, I'm so sad I'm part of a problem.
Posted by Roberta on 08/18/2008 at 09:46am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Nice video David. I enjoyed it.
What I meant on my previous comment is that the phrase "Live up to your potential" does sound like B.S. and a cop out for a teacher.
When a student sees that on a report card, what does it mean to them?
Most students read that and know that a teacher is looking for something, and they don't know how to provide it. A teacher needs to demonstrate their expectations clearly and kindly. And then, when a student doesn't meet these expectations… a teacher needs to be specific on how the student can improve instead of "You need to live up to your potential." How kind is that cop out?
Posted by Roberta on 08/18/2008 at 10:13am | permalink | Reply to this comment
@Monica: "when someone tells you that you have potential-they are generally full of crap. You either think I can do the job or I can't. If you think I'm capable, let me do what I need to do. If not, send me on my way."
Speaking of BS… Every task you've ever done you were fully capable of doing from the start without ever getting training? You've never gotten OJT? You've never worked with supervision until you learned all the ins and outs of a job? I don't believe it.
Posted by Dave on 08/18/2008 at 10:36am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Not putting up a new post for 10 days running is not living up to your potential. For my sake, not yours, get out of bed and post something thought provoking.
Posted by Getting Bored on 08/18/2008 at 11:53am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Tut! Tut! 'Getting Bored'. Penelope probably has to work like the rest of us. doing boring chores that are not condusive to the inspiration from her muse.
Posted by Alastair Carnegie on 08/18/2008 at 11:57am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Now that's funny. Let's hope that the reason there isn't a new post is because Penelope is on a much deserved vacation, and not because she has pneumonia in the hospital.
Posted by Grace on 08/18/2008 at 12:01pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
It's nice to be missed isn't it Penny. But to Getting Bored's point, I have noticed a drop off in post frequency. Is something big on the horizon???? In the past when you did this, something important was in the works:)
Posted by Dale on 08/18/2008 at 12:11pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"Is something big on the horizon????" Asks 'Dale'.
The answer to that question is "YES!". very big. and also very good news. Really big things take a long time to arrive, but can also be seen from a great distance.
There are now about 6,500,000,000 folk on our planet, this big thing on the horizon will impact every single one of them in a very positive way.
Everyone will know what I am talking about when they encounter it. every time I explain it, I am greeted with thanks, from every walk of life. Thanks because the folk 'know' that it is true. No BS! Sadly to tell the tale without explanation, would create doubt. That would be cruel. Vide et Crede!
Posted by Alastair Carnegie on 08/18/2008 at 12:23pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Roberta,
Where the problem comes in with the notion of the student, or an adult for that matter, and having the sense someone is 'looking for something,' is that we're not taught to respond to that feeling or perception with "what do you want me to do? To what standard will you hold me accountable?" If the math teacher expects Johnny to win the Nobel Prize some day, and the little guy is just trying to figure out when those two trains leaving from different cities at different speeds will get to Chicago, someone is going to be disappointed. And Johnny's not doing a report card on the teacher, I suspect.
Seriously, notice what asking that question does…instead of 'shooting for the stars,' trying to be perfect, and failing, we're set up to succeed. Often, the other person doesn't know what they expect, and if they don't, how can you succeed?
What's expected of us becomes clearer, because both people have shared information about it. Does that preclude setting a higher standard for ourselves? No, of course not. I'm not suggesting the end of self-improvement…just that it be that – improving oneself for the satisfaction of doing so, not to get an external reward.
If we don't learn that in school, when do we get there? Given how many comments have been posted here, I suspect it's an issue long after those trains made it to the Windy City.
Posted by David on 08/18/2008 at 12:38pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
David,
Thanks for that "Story of a Sign". my boss will love it, as for mathematics, long ago I realised that it was one subject it was possible to get top marks 100% and no argument, unless the Teacher was wrong, in which case you could make him blush. The secret was to ask questions, and not be scared to look stupid. If the class had to move on to another subject, just ask the Teacher to explain it one-to-one later. Mathematics is a beautiful subject, there is no need to win the Fields Medal.(over forty year olds are out of the race) Any mathematician might stumble upon a priceless gem at 39. so everyone is in with a chance, but not if there is no interest in the subject. The Fields is the Nobel equivalent.
Posted by Alastair Carnegie on 08/18/2008 at 12:55pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope:
I'd say 140+ comments without you in the room demonstrates a vibrant community – when are you speaking in Silicon Valley next?
Posted by Marsha Keeffer on 08/18/2008 at 04:19pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
As the newbee, I don't know how long Penelope's vacations usually last. I hope Dale is right about the 'Big Thing'. perhaps Penelope is researching it now. I became aware of it ca. 1970. we had a massive conference in 1990, to plan for it. Like all very big things, you can't take it all in from just one perspective. It looks different from the vantage point you are looking. Silicon Valley has definitely been an ideas hub for adapting to the inevitable changes soon to manifest. Dogma will serve nobody. Long held axioms, may be found wanting or at best restricting. The Chinese character for 'crisis' is composed of the words 'danger' and 'opportunity', the brave ride the Tiger of opportunity.
Posted by Alastair Carnegie on 08/19/2008 at 11:56am | permalink | Reply to this comment
The last few posts seem to have moved on from the topic to when will PT post next, but I'll comment anyway. I think her post was brave. Obviously, "living to one's potential" has many different constructs and everyone is bringing their own "stuff" to how they define it. Also, the wording itself, i.e., "potential" frames the concept competitively (if something is/has potential, you either get it or not; if you don't, then someone else does). If one is purely looking at it from a materialistic viewpoint (success = wealth), its a pretty basic premise. However, if your assessment of your own potential is more open-ended, that leaves you with more options. Just yesterday, I came across a 1992 magazine article from The Futurist about Americans' growing efforts to pursue material goods to "be happy." (I guess this concept has bothered me for a while!?) I recently became interested in Buddhism in an attempt to achieve a better life balance. Attracted to goals of mindfulness and yes, being kind, I am trying to use Buddhism tenets and tools to calm my mind and gain better insight into what I really want. BUT, I have been struggling with how this fits in with my career aspirations. I'm in NYC and for all everyone here is into yoga, Kaballah, and wheatgrass juice, its still a pretty messed up place to work (at least in my industry, government). I can only attempt to be engaged and kind (including to myself) while also mindfully watching my back. I agree with the post about PT equating "nice" with "social skills" as naive or even off-center, esp. if she's written previously of "social skills" in another context. For me, for my previous job, my needed "social skills" would have to be perfecting seeing from the back of my head, installing my own wiretapping, and possibly even a nanny-cam in my office. I am trying to be optimistic that kindness in the workplace IS possible,(that it works in a viable "give and take" kind of way, not a one-sided doormat/abuse kind of way.
Posted by Mira on 08/19/2008 at 04:14pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
And I guess I'd like to hear others' thoughts on this.
Posted by Mira on 08/19/2008 at 04:16pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
@Mira,
The world is a place where in one moment we may encounter great good, kindness, support and grace, yet in the next moment we may experience cruelty, hate, envy and the like.
It's just the way life is.
Does this mean that someone who portrays life one way, or who advocates a credo that seems to focus on one side as opposed to the other side of the good vs bad equation is wrong? I think not. Remember the adage of the blind men and the elephant? Well this applies here as well.
A basic tenet of being human should (in my opinion) revolve around being kind, but does this mean that there is to be no other side to our interface with the world? NO!!!!
Life isn't simple, and kindness needs to be applied with the knowledge that it may be viewed as weakness, fear, or stupidity. But so what. We are ultimately being kind for ourselves. So we can like the person we see in the mirror everyday, and so that somehow, the faint flame of "niceness" we put forth will inspire others to do the same and perhaps eventually we won't have to watch our backs or be prepared to defend our turf because someone else thinks they see weakness to be exploited.
Life is short, so be you, and be kind, but be equally ready to defend yourself so that your acts of kindness are not the genesis a problem. It comes with the territory.
My 2centsworth:)
Posted by Dale on 08/19/2008 at 04:50pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Mira,
An interesting comment, and Dale has stolen the words out of my mouth, and probably improved upon them. The Buddhism adventure needs a bone fide guiding hand. Wikipedia has a good entry, and lists the four noble truths.
"the noble truth that is suffering"
"the noble truth that is the arising of suffering"
"the noble truth that is the end of suffering"
"the noble truth that is the way leading to the end of suffering"
Wrong attachment is regarded as the cause of suffering. the way out is to develop Right attachment. There is no problem owning a few billion dollars, as long as there is no attachment. Go for the trillion if you like. Material possessions are not the cause of suffering, it is the 'attachment' to them. The way to avoid wrong attachment, is to taste the higher attachments. If you only tasted stale bread all your life, but needed it desperately to stay alive, and you were offered the finest baked fresh bread, would you still remain attached to stale bread? Good luck. P.S. I am a Roman Catholic Military Chaplain. not a Buddhist, but I love their philosophy.
Posted by Alastair Carnegie on 08/19/2008 at 07:23pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I would love to hear someone–Alastair or anyone else–trace the connection between living up to one's full potential and attachment theory a la Buddhism.
Are we attached to achievement? Attached to success? Attached to being smart and savvy? Attached to being one-up?
Does it feel good to achieve (one's full potential)? Does it bring contentment and peace?
Does achieving success bring contentment and peace? Is success satisfying? Or is it an appetite or a inner goading? That never ends, that is never satisfied? An "endless, aching need"?
Has anyone seen the add (by Rolex) with the guy who says he reached the top of his profession and then, he says (with a sly smile), QUIT?
CAK
Posted by chris on 08/19/2008 at 08:22pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Chis,
I think those Buddhists are all deeply attached to 'putting the world to rights'. The attachment is possibly so strong it aches!
Even if a Buddhist momk was to abandon every attachment, the attachment to 'giving up attachments' would persist. Seeking higher attachments is preferable, attachment to service of one's fellow humans and creatures, (let's not forget the critters), is the doorway. it is never closed or locked. To paraphrase the Good Book, a person arrives in paradise, totally bewildered at how or why they were there. another stood outside demanding right of entrance, as reward for all the preaching s/he had done. The former had never heard about G-d, but had lived a blessed life of dedicated service. The latter was attached to fame, and received a lot of it in his life. Fame has no currency in paradise.
Posted by Alastair Carnegie on 08/19/2008 at 08:50pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
A Joke,
The Buddhist who arrived in paradise, was so attached to service, s/he demanded to be sent right back.
Posted by Alastair Carnegie on 08/19/2008 at 08:59pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
@Beth Terry –
Do the "driven ones" bother to do any research on details like the age and experiences of the people they chastise? Don't know what kind of teacher you are, but hope it's not tech history if you think people were surfing the web on their PC's in the '60's & 70's.
I'm also sure you've had numerous experiences requiring as much focus, drive, determination, and sacrifice as is required to be a professional athlete or launch a few startups.
Posted by Brian Johnson on 08/19/2008 at 10:25pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
@ Dave:
I would never want a job where I would know the ends and outs. That's my idea of hell-a job that is so routine that you don't have to think about your tasks. Fortunately for me, my educational level makes me undesirable for those types of positions. If I find myself in a job that requires mechanized thinking or requires "coaching" or "on the job training" or has SOPs for every damn thing in the world, I move on. The work and environment ended up being mind-numbingly dull.
I look for positions that allow variety, flexibility and encourage independent thinking. I love the fact that my job presents new challenges and unexpected activities everyday. I love the fact I can use my education to solve different problems everyday. I feel that's what PhD should be able to do-use your research skills to work independently, ask the important questions, look at the information available critically, and answer the question or present solutions based on your informed judgement.
In other words, PhDs shouldn't have to be trained. They sometimes allow themselves to be indoctrinated with company policies but that's not learning anything of value, especially if they are going to move on eventually.
Finally, I don't believe you can train someone to think independently. You can't train someone to be adaptable (the Marines can but that's another story).
Posted by Monica on 08/19/2008 at 11:56pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Don't Forget 2 More!
1. Patience is integral
2. You can learn something from every single person.
I worked for an e-commerce website and started off all the way at the bottom.
Like you said by being nice, openminded, and helpful to everyone I was able to:
-Learn essential skills in Management, Photography, Graphic Design, and Product Development.
-Move up quite fast within the company.
Through my numerous responsibilities and everyday interaction with employees-
I gained valuable insight and skills they don't teach you in college!
We live in a time where regular people are becoming famous just by being themselves as
Blogs & Podcasts are placing value on the individual not the businesses.
Like you said Kind and Connected.
Living up to your potential is being the kindest person you can be.
Just to conclude:
A top salesman in a prestigious company once told me his secret to over 10 years of
Successful selling:
1. Respect everyone
2. Be kind to everyone
:)
Posted by Casey on 08/20/2008 at 03:47am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Did P go to the Olympics without telling us?
Posted by mamaworker on 08/20/2008 at 09:42am | permalink | Reply to this comment
According to her recent Twitters, PT is in NY with the farmer. Her Twitters are fairly up-to-date: http://twitter.com/penelopetrunk
PT: Two weeks without an update? Aren't you worried about losing audience?
Posted by editormum on 08/20/2008 at 09:53am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think PT has sold the blog to Alastair Carnegie, Dale et al and took the proceeds shopping in NYC…
Posted by MJ on 08/20/2008 at 09:58am | permalink | Reply to this comment
@MJ,
"OUCH!"
I will have all of you know, PT has not as far as I know been in negotiations with Carnegie Corporation. If she ever does, it is up to her to tell us all about it. I think Yoo are probably after her? I will ask John when he gets back from vacation 2nd September.
Posted by Alastair Carnegie on 08/20/2008 at 10:15am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Signs of the Times.
Recently our Archbishop of York, who incidentally has precedence over the Prime Minister, jumped out of an aeroplane in the capapable hands of the Red Devils, WITHOUT A PARACHUTE! just for charity! It's hard to keep up with the strange publicity stunts going on.
http://aaron-titherington.memory-of.com/About.aspx
"….He was studying music and music technology at Nelson and Colne College when he died.
His determination in the face of his illness brought him attention from a wealth of famous names. He met Cardinal Basil Hulme, and was taken on a helicopter ride with Noel Edmonds and the presenter's Airborne Trust charity, as well as meeting pop stars, actors and other personalities…."
My Home Town. Bonnie Colne.
Sister Veronica (From Colne)was Director of Communications to His Late Holiness Pope John Paul II, and Private Secretary to H.H. Pope Benedict. We will keep you informed.
Cardinal Basil Hulme, had a coffin ready to cart him off at his last Easter Celebration. His Doctor thought he would never make it throgh the Service. Basil's last request to his congregation, and he made the request with tear stained emotion, concerned the urgent message of 'Hope' that must be broadcast to all peoples and Nations. That is our mission. It is NOT false hope. we can all play our part.
Posted by Alastair Carnegie on 08/20/2008 at 10:49am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Family Comes First, Reports Man Trying To Get Out Of Work
EDINA, MN -— Frank Noller, married father of two and advertising copywriter for Harton & North, extolled the virtues of family and parental responsibility in an attempt to leave the office 45 minutes early Monday. "My [14-year-old] son's got a bad cough," Noller told his boss before leaving, sighing unhappily as if he would have preferred to remain at work and do his job. "Gotta keep your priorities straight." Upon arriving home, Noller informed his wife that he would not be able to attend his daughter's gymnastics recital because he was "swamped with work."
Posted by The Onion on 08/20/2008 at 11:08am | permalink | Reply to this comment
@Chris,
Oops spelt your name wrong!:-(…Cris?)
The ending to the Buddhist attached to service joke:-
After demanding to be sent back from paradise, the reception angel said that would be impossible, as the Buddhist was assigned to be the Preacher's guardian angel, and he was due to be sent back, born deaf and blind.
"Can't we swap places" Asked the Buddhist Monk, "I love quiet and solitude"
"That would mean that Preacher would become your guardian angel, are you sure you want that?"
"Tell him to find a cure!"
"If he does find a cure," said the Angel, "that would probably result in the cure being preached all over the world."
"OK….DEAL!" said the Buddhist.
Posted by Alastair Carnegie on 08/20/2008 at 11:42am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Maybe updating this regularly is beyond PT's abilities – this really dissapoints me. I mean, she had such potential… ;)
Posted by Dave on 08/20/2008 at 12:09pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
@Dave,
Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!….
If you can stand it? another lame Buddhist Joke:-
"What's the sound of one hand clapping?"
Answer:- "That's soooooooooo easy it's a breeze!"
Posted by Alastair Carnegie on 08/20/2008 at 12:13pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I like this attachement thread.
Krishna Murti said, "Attachment is the cause of all suffering."
Jesus did not say money was evil, but that the love of money was the root of all evil.
So where our treasure is, there will be our hearts. What we really value will be reflected in the allocation of our time and resources.
Posted by Grace on 08/20/2008 at 01:20pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am currently attached to jokes, I think my search engine is joining in with the fun? Who said computers have no heart?
http://corky.net/scripts/poeticJustice.html
Quote:-
COLUMBIA TITLE CARD: ONCE UPON A TTME IN SOUTH CENTRAL LOS We hear voices:
one male, the other female. From the tone of their speech and the
accompanying music, we can tell we are entering a romantic scene.
FADE IN:
1 INT FANCY NEW YORK APARTMENT–DINING ROOM–NIGHT Where we see a romantic
scene played out between a man and a woman. Both are white. The couple have
just finished a candlelit dinner.
BRAD: You like your wine? Want s'more?
She nods her approval.
PENELOPE: Mmmmm you're good. Candles, dinner, wine. What's next?
He grins.
BRAD: Let me set the mood.
>>>>>?????
Posted by Alastair Carnegie on 08/20/2008 at 01:33pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"While The Cat's Away The Mice Do Play"
A Buddhist Theme,
Escape from Samsara:-
http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=22127
Posted by Alastair Carnegie on 08/20/2008 at 02:02pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Now I know why Penelope has (had?) a 2 comment per person per blog post limit. This particular one has degenerated into utter drivel.
Posted by Aaron on 08/20/2008 at 03:06pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Aaron,
You are mistaken, and profoundly so! What side of the bed did you get out of this morning?
Your comment is a deliberate "Flame". You know it is, and are what is known on the internet as an "Arsonist".
Flame away, we have a few jokes in store. That might reach your heart? with luck. Go there now. it is your Holy of Holies, and only you have access to it.
Posted by Alastair Carnegie on 08/20/2008 at 03:42pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
@Aaron,
From one Priest Levi to another, "Have you tended your lamp today?"…. "is it still burning bright?"…
A light heart, illuminates.
Three plagues are quite sufficient to make the point.
Posted by Alastair Carnegie on 08/20/2008 at 03:54pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope is off somewhere living out her message: not living up to her potential.
Posted by tom on 08/21/2008 at 12:12am | permalink | Reply to this comment
On the subject of living up to our full potential, the great Sanskrit Scholar, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada explained exactly what the obstacles were. He wrote:-
"…Neither the world nor our surroundings distract us; it is only the mind. The mind is the medium of greatest attachment. And the objects of attachment are also not in your environment, but only within your mind. Your family, your friends, and your whole world is not what it appears. It¢s presence within you is imaginary and doesn't have too much similarity with the world outside. This is why we suffer. We perceive the world as one thing in our mind but it¢s really something else. This is the cause of all human sufferings and frustrations, pains and agonies. The only way out is to go beyond the limitations of mind. Going beyond the limitations means going beyond the imaginations. Once you are out of your own imaginations, you see the world very real and the foremost reality is that the world is nothing but God Himself. There is nothing other than God anywhere anytime. The only obstacle between you and God is your mind. So, you have to go beyond the mind…"
We here in the West, do not even know what G-d is! and it's probably better to know nothing, rather than be taught total BS from another ignorant fool.
Posted by Alastair Carnegie on 08/21/2008 at 05:31am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm getting creeped out. Penelope, come back!!
Posted by Grace on 08/21/2008 at 11:44am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I know that we are all part of an experiment to see how long before this post fizzles out or if we can we break the world record number of comments – but we all like hearing the sound (or reading the words) of our own voices far too much. We will not shut up!
Penelope, put us out of our misery.
New post please!
Posted by Grace on 08/21/2008 at 11:48am | permalink | Reply to this comment
A tweet for the desparate:
http://twitter.com/penelopetrunk/statuses/894682466
Posted by Brand Fanatic on 08/21/2008 at 02:34pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
@Beth Terry
It's amazing how short our memories are (and how fast time passes). It's technically true and entirely inaccurate that the Internet and personal computers have existed for all of my life — the everyday use of those technologies has changed so profoundly that it's like comparing an egg to a chicken. It was a big deal to me when I first saw a computer capable of producing realistic sound. It was utterly amazing to me when, just before graduating high school, I downloaded a entire episode of a television program off the Internet in only two days (evil trick question: why did I do that, and how old am I?).
But, historical side notes aside…
What do you think of when you imagine living "not up to your potential"? From your post, you seem to think that people motivated by "kindness" rather than "living up to their potential" would eschew challenge, neglect their responsibilities, and contribute nothing to the world. Is kindness that easy and that inconsequential to you? And do you really think that Lister and Edison concerned themselves with "living up to their potential"?
I have to agree with Penelope: that statement comes from the school system and should remain there.
Posted by firebee on 08/21/2008 at 04:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
It would be great to think–and live–as if kindness were not optional.
"Potential" is a word used by authority figures (parents, teachers, bosses) to define you by their standards. It is the stick in carrot-and-stick, usually said in a disappointed or disgusted tone, depending on the speaker.
Define yourself: set your own goals, work toward them. Now, you need to let bosses know that your goals are and (in the real world) synch your goals with theirs (or find a new job or boss). But if your boss defines your potential as selling three properties every week and you define your goals as finding the right homes for the right buyers. Your boss has a short-term goal that makes him look good (quota) and you have a long-term one that fulfills you (happy customers).
Your "potential" to sell three houses a week is, yes, BS. But you have to make a choice or negotiate with your boss (in his language) about why you are meeting your "potential" in different terms. If he won't play–look for another boss, or adjust your goals. But forget "potential": it's just another way to make you work harder on their terms.
Posted by Pearl on 08/22/2008 at 02:21am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hey, Brand Fanatic: might want to label that tweet link as NSFW!!
Posted by Jenflex on 08/22/2008 at 08:58am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I knew it – PT and the investor are holed up in the Chelsea Hotel, partying with the ghosts of Sid and Nancy and the lingering air of Leonard Cohen. Champagne, rock & roll and coke for all!
Posted by MJ on 08/22/2008 at 09:11am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Always love, hate will get you every time
Always love, don't wait til the finish line
-Nada Surf
Posted by musiclover on 08/22/2008 at 09:12am | permalink | Reply to this comment
well, going by her last tweet, her mouth is just too full for her to be doing anything else.
Posted by maria on 08/22/2008 at 01:26pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Interesting take on P. Trunk here:
http://unvarnishedtruth.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/
Shocked acolytes can now discuss how Penelope is exceeding her potential.
Posted by Travis on 08/22/2008 at 06:33pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Travis says:
Interesting take on P. Trunk here:
http://unvarnishedtruth.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/
Shocked acolytes can now discuss how Penelope is exceeding her potential.
Actually just watch her vids on YouTube to see what a twit she is.
Posted by Nate Kazabier on 08/24/2008 at 02:34am | permalink | Reply to this comment
RE: Unvarnished truth article.
It's about time somebody exposed this woman for exactly what she ISN'T.
Her "fans" probably don't care about her highly questionable veracity when it comes to her experience and qualifications.
Hmmm. Wonder if lying and fabricating in the name of aspirations and branding is a Gen Y thing????
Posted by IRG on 08/25/2008 at 09:33am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm sorry. My life is not ending because Penelope Trunk may or may not be lying to me about her qualifications. I like her writing. She's interesting. She's a personality on the internet.
Posted by Roberta on 08/25/2008 at 09:52am | permalink | Reply to this comment
@ Travis, Nate, IRG, et al.
Am I missing something here? If you don't see any benefit in the BC or PT's take on life/career etc, why stick around? Is there so much satisfaction to be had in tearing away at a person's image because you don't like them, that the effort is justified?
PT's writing helps some people, and it irks some people, so what? This is life. But the constant efforts of some (moral stalwarts) to change what they view as undeserved adulation for someone else says more about the stalwarts than it does about the undeserving individual.
Pinch yourselves (metaphorically) to awaken to the real reasons you can't simply walk away from this blog and leave those who attend, to their "delusions." I'm sure that among them is a large dose of envy.
Posted by Dale on 08/25/2008 at 09:57am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Well put Dale…
Posted by Roberta on 08/25/2008 at 10:00am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I would love to know more about the role that ENVY plays in career decisions and our everyday job life.
Posted by commenter on 08/25/2008 at 10:02am | permalink | Reply to this comment
What percentage people who beg us to live up to our potential are, in fact, secretly envious of us?
Posted by commenter on 08/25/2008 at 10:07am | permalink | Reply to this comment
ooooooo…. this commentator person has some good points…..
Posted by Roberta on 08/25/2008 at 10:08am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Gee Dale, did my link hit a little too close to home? Hmm, you want to worship in silence; I love teasing the people who lack the critical thinking skills to assess the qualifications of internet gurus. I say this website is a win-win situation for both of us!!!!
And no Dale, it is the person who worships without thought who looks bad; not the person who illustrates the emperor has no clothes.
Finally, since a blog is supposed to be a conversation, in real life, people have conversations without agreeing on everything. Kinda sad that you can only have a conversation with people who share your opinions. Some of us are just more educated and secure with ourselves…probably why some of us don't worship internet gurus.
Posted by Travis on 08/25/2008 at 08:42pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"2. Recognize that the world isn't a race."
I was a senior in college when my friend/classmate from high school was starting law school. For awhile, I felt crappy because she seemed so "far ahead" of me and where I was. Then I realized 2 things – she made some choices I never would have (like taking 18 and 21 credits per semester in undergrad in order to graduate in 3 years), and I didn't want to be where she was (in law school). It was then I realized I couldn't compare my track in life with anyone else's.
Also, I think folks use "live up to your potential" as a less-accurate way of saying "always do your best." Sometimes I haven't done my best — half-assed a class in school, rushed on a project for work (during my stint in corporate life), etc., so I might not have lived up to the potential greatest of -whatever- it was I was doing.
Posted by Kendall on 08/25/2008 at 09:15pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Travis,
I have no problem with healthy debate on a topic or personality. What I am against are mean spirited attacks; they have no place in logical discourse. I do not think that Nate used the word "Twit" to foster meaningful dialogue:)
Knowledge is power, so by all means provide it, but personal attacks do not foster the kind of debate I seek.
Besides… I've seen all the stuff in that article before. There are no ground breaking truths or juicy new tidbits revealed there.
Posted by Dale on 08/27/2008 at 01:21pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
It's better to be kind, than to be nice.
Nice implies a lack of boundaries and self-respect. Kind, on the other hand, implies doing what you can do, and not harming yourself to do so.
Kindness is sorely lacking in this world full of "nice" people.
Posted by resonanteye on 08/27/2008 at 04:46pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Great post. I worked for years in what I thought was as career I loved and that I was "living up my potential." One day, I took a step back and realized I wasn't living up to MY own personal enjoyment potential and am now looking into career options, such as photography, that I really enjoy. Thanks. I'm feeling much more full of potential than ever before!
Posted by Matt on 09/03/2008 at 01:30pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Let's
Posted by Anon on 09/25/2008 at 12:49am | permalink | Reply to this comment
make it
Posted by Anon on 09/25/2008 at 12:49am | permalink | Reply to this comment
200!
Posted by Anon on 09/25/2008 at 12:50am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Great point, I was working a business that I enjoyed when I started and was going along well for 11 years doing what I thought was "Living Up to my potential" however the business was taking me away from my family and my true passion. Now I sold the business live life by my design.
Posted by Matthew Clark on 11/29/2008 at 09:18pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think that one of our most fatal flaws as humans is to assume that there's a cap on our potential, or to assume that there's a pre-destined purpose that we're supposed to be living up to. I agree with your sarcasm also – if you're complaining about "not living up to your potential," either do something about it or shut up.
Posted by Dave on 01/11/2009 at 09:51am | permalink | Reply to this comment
In his book 'Seven Habits of .." Stepehen Covey talks about paradigms.We all speak from our own paradigms,our strengths,our weaknesses,our achievements,our failures,in nut shell our experiences.
I feel that whatever you say has a lot of " I " in it.You need to make your views more general accepting.Part of the reason that you get so many replies for your posts are that because your posts are one sided.
Posted by Abhishek on 03/04/2009 at 12:11am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Re: You are on this earth to be kind. That is your only potential.
As long as what I'm doing what makes me happy, I believe I'm more willing to be kind to others.
Posted by BD on 03/12/2009 at 10:35pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think that living up to you potential is a good way to think, that way you are always trying and not giving up! That is better than being complacent!
Posted by Emprestimo Pessoal on 04/09/2009 at 08:04am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
How do we differentiate kindness from niceness? We all want to be generous and good people, giving where we can, but we don't want to become soft targets. It's a delicate balance – any advice?
Posted by Kriti on 09/29/2009 at 08:14am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Funny you should make these comments about living up to one's potential as being a crock. i am about to give a talk at a prison in Ohio and the topic I am talking about is "Living up to one's potential." Maybe I should just can my speech and let you talk to the guys. Perhaps you could tell them that they are just being themselves by smoking crack and committing felonies to support their drug habits. maybe they aren't living up to their potential because they got caught and should be the best darn criminals they can. When they abandon their children and stop being fathers they should just forget about what their mothers told them. What do mothers know anyway. Everyone doesn't live in your Utopian world where is just okay to be okay. Ever think about that?
Posted by Anthony Johnson on 09/30/2009 at 10:01am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I really like this post. It is somewhat reasuring especially in todays world. I think that the word potential is something that is constantly redefined. Our potential today is different than what our potential will be tomorrow. Our potential constantly grows as we learn more and become more experienced. Therefore, someone can always try to reach their full potential without ever succeeding. That can really be frustrating.
Posted by Wilbert on 10/06/2009 at 01:17pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I just read the following quote and it made me think of this post. I'll add it here for posterity. It's from William James (1842-1910)- father of American psychology.
Most people live,
whether physically, intellectually, or morally,
in a very restricted circle of their potential being.
They make use of a very small portion of their
possible consciousness, and of their soul’s resources
in general, much like a man who out of his whole
bodily organism, should get in the habit of using and
moving only his little finger.
Great emergencies and crises show us how much greater our vital resources are than we had supposed.
Posted by Mark W. on 10/10/2009 at 01:41pm | permalink | Reply to this comment