There’s a lot of advice on this blog about how to interview: Tell good stories, ask good questions, be a closer. But here’s only one most important thing to remember: when it comes to discussing your potential salary, never give the number first.
The right answer to the question, “What’s your salary range?” is almost always some version of “I’m not telling you.”
The person who gives the first number sets the starting point. But if that’s you, you lose. If you request a salary higher than the range for the job, the interviewer will tell you you’re high, and you’ve just lost money. If you request a salary lower than the range, the interviewer will say nothing, and you’ve just lost money.
So you can only hurt yourself by giving the first number. You want the interviewer to tell you the range for the position, because then you can focus on getting to the high end of that range. But you can’t work to the high point if you don’t know it.
So if there are two good salary negotiators in the room, it will be a game to see who has to give the first number. Fortunately, the company cannot make you an offer without also offering a salary, so the cards are stacked in your favor, as long as you hold your ground.
So here’s a list of responses for all the ways the interviewer will ask you how much money you expect to make. The more times you can fend off the question, the less likely you will have to be the one to give the first number. This works, even if you don’t have the upper hand and you really need the job.
What salary range are you looking for?
“Let’s talk about the job requirements and expectations first, so I can get a sense of what you need.” That’s a soft answer to a soft way to ask the question.
What did you make at your last job?
“This position is not exactly the same as my last job. So let’s discuss what my responsibilities would be here and then determine a fair salary for this job.” It’s hard to argue with words like “fair” and “responsibilities”—you’re earning respect with this one.
What are you expecting to make in terms of salary?
“I am interested in finding a job that is a good fit for me. I’m sure whatever salary you’re paying is consistent with the rest of the market.” In other words, I respect myself and I want to think I can respect this company.
I need to know what salary you want in order to make you an offer. Can you tell me a range?
“I’d appreciate it if you could make me an offer based on whatever you have budgeted for this position and we can go from there.” This is a pretty direct response, so using words like “appreciate” focuses on drawing out the interviewer’s better qualities instead of her tougher side.
Why don’t you want to give your salary requirements?
“I think you have a good idea of what this position is worth to your company, and that’s important information for me to know.” Enough dancing–this is one last attempt to force you to give the number first. Hold your line here and you win.
You can see the pattern, right? If you think you sound obnoxious or obstinate by not answering the question, think of how he feels asking the question more than once. The interviewer is just trying to get a leg up on you in negotiations. If you give in, you look like a poor negotiator, and the interviewer is probably not looking for someone like that.
So stand your ground, and understand that the interviewer is being as insistent as you are. And it might encourage you to know that research shows that if you mirror the behavior of the interviewer, you are more likely to get the job. Sure, this usually applies to tone of voice, level of enthusiasm, and body language, but who’s to say it doesn’t apply to negotiation tactics, too? Try it. You could come away lots richer.
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What if i ask for a range, and she gives me an upper range that is lower than what i am worth.
For example, if i am worth 60000, and the HR gives me the range as 40000 – 50000, what do i do then?
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Posted by Ramesh on February 20, 2008 at 1:02 pm | permalink |
Ramesh,
If the range is below what you are looking for, just say so, and if they say it’s a firm range, then you just say forget it. Unless you are willing to take a pay cut, which usually is not a good idea. Better to find out at the beginning rather than after you’ve wasted time for a job that won’t pay what you need.
Posted by Pam on February 20, 2008 at 1:37 pm | permalink |
Dear Editormum,
If an employer asked me for a W-2 confirmation, that would end the conversation right there! Not a chance in hell would I give them that. Either I’m right for the job or I’m not. I’ll perform full disclosure once I’m hired and then ONLY if my job requires that disclosure for conflict of interest reasons.
I’m doing full financial disclosure just to get the job for anyone. That’s my business!
People so often forget…to me it’s my life…to them, it’s a job. BIG difference.
Posted by Baceman Chris on February 20, 2008 at 2:22 pm | permalink |
to John, re: ALL INFORMATION MUST BE PROVIDED.
If you would like to continue the process, fill it out completely. You can hold it, take it into the interview with the salary blank and say “I have to check the exact figure, but I feel I was underpaid there. Is salary history a big factor in determining an offer?” Then – be quiet – and listen to the answer.
To continue being considered for this company, you will need to complete it. If it REALLY bugs you to have to do it, then look at another company – probably a smaller one. This one may not be a fit.
I also suggest only answering the salary question once per company – ideally to the recruiter/hiring manager at the beginning of the process. Sometimes 4 interviewers will each ask you – they’re just being nosey! They don’t all have an impact on the salary decision. It’s fine to say that you discussed that with the recruiter or HM already, and change the subject.
Posted by Maryellen on February 20, 2008 at 3:17 pm | permalink |
I always thought that the tried and true rule was that you didn’t discuss salary until AFTER you had a job OFFER. In an interview? I don’t think candidates should have to discuss salary at all. After the interview is a different story.
But reading some of these recruiter’s responses, maybe times have changed and it is now deemed acceptable? Personally, I’m uncomfortable being asked about salary in the interview stage.
Posted by Flying Squirrel on February 20, 2008 at 3:28 pm | permalink |
I am currently negotiating for a new position. The application required salary requirements to be considered. I gave my answer as a range–the low end of which is 15% more than I’m currently making. I’m probably not qualified for a job that pays any higher. To be sure, I always check sites like Salary.com to do a little profiling. Very helpful. There are ways to “win” without being coy or beligerant. You just have to be smart. If the range I gave was out of their range, then they wouldn’t have called me back…and I still would’ve won. Most recruiters are good folks who like people and are just as uncomfortable talking about it as you are. The goal is getting the right person for the right job at a salary that makes both sides happy. Work with them to make it a win-win, and you’ll come out ahead.
Posted by Brent on February 20, 2008 at 5:19 pm | permalink |
I usually e-mail from a separate address not connected to my name asking what the salary is if I have doubts.
Posted by Roman on February 20, 2008 at 6:29 pm | permalink |
THANK YOU! I’ve tried to figure this out on my own but have never heard some concrete examples like you provided. And I know I used to be dramatically underpaid. When I moved to my present company, I managed to get the interviewer to name a salary, and her first offer was double what I was currently making.
Kinda hard at that point not to stand up and say, “SCORE!”
Posted by Carolyn Bahm on February 20, 2008 at 7:24 pm | permalink |
I have to say, as an HR professional without a lot of time on my hands, I get very annoyed with people who won’t tell me their salary expectations. I don’t want to waste time with someone who wants way more than I can offer. If they aren’t willing to answer the question with at least a target salary range, I won’t continue the interview process. It sounds tough, but like everyone else in the business world, I’m busy and time is essential. I ask about salary in the telephone interview and reconfirm at the final interview. I appreciate people who know what they want.
Posted by Lisa on February 20, 2008 at 9:17 pm | permalink |
Lisa,
Since you and the other HR pros out there are so pressed for time, why not save a lot of time and aggr for all parties concerned and simply post a salary range, or at least a starting salary. That way, jobseekers like me can decide at first glance whether or not to even bother applying in the first place. So if these people who don’t state a salary annoy you so much…you know what the solution is (that, or find another line of work that’s not so annoying).
Posted by Jimmy on November 25, 2009 at 8:22 pm | permalink |
Lisa –
As an HR professional without a lot of time on your hands, why wouldn’t you state the range you have in mind for the position? If salary is the key factor, you could state your range when you invite the candidate for an interview and you’ll know that everyone is on the same page.
If you don’t state your expectations, it seems to me that you are playing games with the applicant. (Obviously you have a budget for the job, right?) Hopefully, your applicants have the option to find an employer who is willing to treat them with respect.
Posted by Miriam Salpeter on February 20, 2008 at 9:53 pm | permalink |
Miriam- excellent reply. I challenge all you HR professionals to respond to Miriam’s challenge. As I have read the comments, the overwhelming theme seems to be HR pros don’t want to waste time with candidates that won’t state a number.
I had wondered why it falls upon the candidate to go first. It seems that integrity is at stake, and if a number is important to “you”, then you should be the first to give that number. Such as the HR pros. If it it so vital, give the candidate the range and then ask for a number.
If a candidate is willing to wait for the number, it is obviously not so pressing. It is obvious that the candidate know they cannot get a job offer without a salary offer. They can wait.
It has been known that a candidate will show up with the same attitude as the HR Pros, not wanting to waste time, therefore wanting to know the range up front. If it is the candidates litmus test, then they should be willing to give their salary requirements first, then ask the range.
As for salary history, crapola. Never has it been honorable or honest to ask the salary range. It is simply an attempt to lowball as much as possible. While trying to get the best price is traditional tactics, and probably not dishonest in and of itself… please don’t try to portray it as anything else. The job history and previous duties are the indication of what the candidate is capable of and worth… not the previous salary.
Posted by Michael Cortes on February 21, 2008 at 8:46 am | permalink |
I agree with the questions Miriam and Michael Cortes just posed. If it’s such a big deal for an HR rep, they should just state the salary range themselves. In my experience though, I’ve always been told the range without much fuss (though I usually parry the first ‘what are you expecting as a salary’ question.)
It’s amusing that most of the disagreements are from professional recruiters.
That said, Pam, I like your candor. Do you work with placing financial analysts? If Penelope doesn’t mind, can you post a way for potential recruits to contact you?
Posted by Finance Monk on February 21, 2008 at 10:23 am | permalink |
I’ll give a range if asked and remind the candidate of the various benefits offered. But, the range I’ll share won’t go to the top of my budget – would you provide that knowing that candidates are going to always come back at the top of the range based on advice from blogs like this one? And, if a candidate does state their expectation at the top of the range, without taking into consideration their experience (and equity within my org – which of course they can’t know about) than they’ve quoted themselves out of the job. It’s much more helpful to me for the candidate to share their TRUE expectation so that I can determine if they are a good fit.
Posted by Lisa on February 21, 2008 at 10:31 am | permalink |
I had an interview 6 months ago with an older Texan guy. He asked about my salary expectations and I sort of pussy-footed around it like you’re describing. Heh, he got very blunt and said “cut the new age whoo-eey and tell me what you want to make” to which I responded lightning fast “75k sir” and he said “if we decide to offer you the job it’ll probably be at least 80″. I got the job and he was right.
I think interviewers are wising up to people playing this game. I’m sure some people could have dealt with it better than I but if you really want a job (and I did, I didn’t need the job, but I really wanted to work at this place) as an interviewee you don’t want to look like an arrogant prick.
Posted by Josh on February 21, 2008 at 11:43 am | permalink |
I would be curious to know if you have used this exact approach and how much luck you have found…
I would say the first answer is adequate because why would you give a salary based off a position you know nothing about?
also I am at a point wher I get recruiters calling me so if they want me and I am not looking I ask them to give me the salary range before I talk about anything else… or I don’t move forward.
Posted by B on February 21, 2008 at 11:45 am | permalink |
This technique may work at senior levels but junior level employees all the way up to mid-management might just annoy the hiring manager by playing this game. The tactics you describe may also be more effective in start-ups/entrepreneurial environments than in large companies.
In many companies the salary for a job isn’t that flexible and in some cases, it is fixed with almost no room for negotiation. If I were the recruiter or hiring manager and someone played this game with me it would annoy me…as a hiring manger in large companies (Deliotte, Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago) I always wanted to offer new employees as much as I possibly could and by the time we reached the salary discussion I would have already lobbied with my superiors to offer as much as I could to attract the new hire.
If you want to negotiate sometimes its not the salary that you should be negotiating because of aforementioned reasons. If the salary isn’t negotiable try to get a larger signing bonus, more perks, more time off, or a company car. Many times hiring managers can offer more flexibility on those sorts of things than they can on the salary.
Posted by Liz Handlin on February 21, 2008 at 11:58 am | permalink |
I once received an insulting salary offer from a company. They added that, “The economy is really bad right now and we’re scooping people up at great rates!” When I balked at their offer (which was so far off from what I would even consider that I tried not to laugh), they decided to send me to the COO. The COO tried to tell me it was a competitive offer. Then he said, “Well, that should be enough for anyone to live on.” I knew right then and there that I did not want to work for that company. I knew they would never tell a man that $40k a year was enough to live on in one of the most expensive cities in the world. And, further to that, they obviously were focused on lowballing, not paying for value. They were pretty shocked when I walked away and wouldn’t even consider their next offer, which was considerably higher.
Posted by Andrea C>> Become a consultant blog on February 21, 2008 at 6:44 pm | permalink |
This seems like great advice for any private company but I work for a public institution where salary ranges for positions are set, published and the person interviewing can easily access your current salary. Because everything is transparent ,or so it seems, I’m not sure how to handle salary negotiations. I just interviewed for a position and they offered me the job. Then we talked salary. This was the second time I was asked what salary would make me happy. I already knew what the established range for the position was and managed to avoid giving a number the first time around but the second time around I ended up feeling pressured to give a number so I gave what I thought was fair based on comparisons with people having the same type of responsibilities. But now I’m feeling like I shot myself in the foot. Should I have not given a number? What is the best way to handle these negotiations when most information is transparent?
Posted by Anonymous on February 22, 2008 at 2:39 am | permalink |
Anonymous,
Penelope’s recommendations are geared for situations where information is hidden from both parties, and there’s a race to gain information advantage. This has to be modified for specific situations like yours. (As you see from the diversity of comments – a lot of variation in what works and why!)
You entered your salary negotiation with an information advantage that most of the others in this thread don’t have: knowing the salary range for the job.
When things are already pretty transparent, you’re still well served by delaying the conversation until you understand the job (which you did).
The only other thing I might suggest (which you may have tried): when the time comes for someone to name a number within the range, say something like this:
“Based on what you know regarding the needs of the job [and organizations goals, etc] and what I bring to the table, what salary do you think is fair?” Whether you think their number is low or not, ask them to explain it. Then be prepared to explain what you want and why.
If they push you to answer your own question first, mention that it’s not your goal to make anyone uncomfortable with your questions. Then simply ask them why they don’t feel comfortable answering your honest question. (Watch your tone: you’re asking the other person to trust you and engage in a candid conversation. If you sound pushy or condescending or anything other than trustworthy and honest, you’re done.)
And better than anyone else on this thread, *you* will know if such an approach may work for you and your organization next time – or if you’re better off doing what you did last time.
As noted elsewhere in this thread: successful salary negotiations aren’t competitive situations where one party gets to win at the other’s expense, The End. You’ll need some amount of (mutual) candor and trust to get anything done once you work there. What you say, when you say it, and how you say it are all going to be part of establishing that. The same applies across the table. They work within their own constraints and must earn your trust within those constraints.
Observe your environment, weigh what will fly in it, and decide how you want to proceed.
Good luck!
Posted by a-nonny. on January 11, 2009 at 5:57 pm | permalink |
Awesome advice on the NDA, btw.
Posted by Andrea C>> Become a consultant blog on February 22, 2008 at 2:46 am | permalink |
As an interviewer…. I don’t feel obnoxious or annoying when I keep asking the question. I just feel sad that people don’t understand why this is a necessary discussion. When you reach the point where you need to know that person’s expectations, it means you are interested in them, and not in “dancing”.
Posted by Andra on February 22, 2008 at 7:01 am | permalink |
I’m not so sure I agree with this point: “The person who gives the first number sets the starting point. But if that's you, you lose.” – I feel it depends on how well prepared you are, and how well you know yourself and your market.
For example, having job offers (in writing) from other companies on hand is a useful way to justify your worth. This tactic certainly simplifies the whole process. No having to beat around the bush.
Using the above technique is especially useful when it is time to negotiate a raise. On the flipside, if your request for a raise is turned down, you should be willing to resign for them alleged greener pastures.
I guess it comes down to your personality type. Not everyone enjoys the negotiating game.
When you’re the best in your field at what you do, you write your own paycheck. Until you reach that point, work for as little as possible in jobs where you gain the most experience (assuming you’re young enough to enjoy the short-term loss leader that is).
Posted by Kosta Kontos on February 22, 2008 at 9:07 am | permalink |
How does one respond when, as part of the application process, the company requires a pay stub from your current/previous position? I’ve run into this awkward position a couple of times. Certainly takes away any bargaining power one may have.
Posted by Gray on February 22, 2008 at 11:12 am | permalink |
If they request a paystub or W-2, I’m not intrested. I have options, thank God.
That’s my business and it’s only theirs if an offer is on the table. Of course, you never should lie about your compensation. I think that’s equally unethical.
Posted by Baceman on February 22, 2008 at 11:23 am | permalink |
I’m in a highly-specialized field so my experiences might not be relevant to this discussion, but I have never had much trouble with the salary question. There are very few people doing the work I do, we all know how much each-other make, and we know what the market demands.
What shocks me is how often interviewers will try to BS me by saying that their too-low offer is “what the market is offering.” It happened a few weeks ago when a company tried to lowball me by $40,000. In these cases I always walk. If a company can’t be honest I don’t want to work with them.
I don’t think there is anything to be gained from being stingy with salaries. In my experience, employers who look to minimize salaries are miserable places to work. I’d much rather work with a company that doesn’t mind paying for talent and is more interested in growing a business than a company that is obsessed with cutting costs.
Posted by Hal on February 22, 2008 at 12:15 pm | permalink |
this once again raises a question I’ve had — are there Agents that act on behalf of employees; like sports/entertainment agents? if anyone has heard of such a thing, I’d be very interested to hear how it works.
Posted by chris on February 22, 2008 at 2:00 pm | permalink |
Pen is right in all cases, professional recruiters be damned. However the role of the hiring manager has been overlooked.
In my nearly 20 years in middle exec to C-level positions I have staffed plenty of positions and have negotiated my own comp package in close to a dozen.
Except for entry-level positions, the hiring manager has an annual compensation budget that he must stay within *unless* a special situation (say the chance to recruit a known rainmaker) gives him reason to ask his superiors for an exception. The decision loop for that exception always runs from the hiring manager through his superior chain and then to accounting. HR plays only an administrative role.
I have known of cases where HR had to consider a special situation hire. In every case the recruiter submitted a case that essentially said ‘I know this person is very valuable but we’re bound by our salary range, so please endorse my rejection.’
My practice, and my advice, are to: A)Make it your goal to discuss your financial negotiating position only with the hiring manager, while; B)Using Pen’s advice to extract the employer’s position from them.
You are negotiating a business deal just like any other. And you and the hiring manager are the principal, whereas HR are mere agents. You serve your best interests by knowing their ultimate goals without them knowing yours. And as a principal, you negotiate only with other principals.
Posted by Marc on February 22, 2008 at 3:07 pm | permalink |
I strongly disagree with Marc’s comment. As an HR professional working in a large, corporate environment, it’s insulting to read someone name me as a “mere agent” that “plays only an administrative role.” In my organization, HR does all salary negotiations, the Hiring Manager has no discretion to hire outside of the set ranges. Yes, Hiring Managers have a budget but imagine what would happen to internal equity if Hiring Managers could offer people whatever they wanted!
Hey, if Hiring Managers want to take on the entire recruitment process (draft advertisements, screen resumes, do telephone interviews, schedule in person interviews, call references, administer background checks, call declined candidates, negotiate salary within the organizations salary grades, write offer letters, plan and schedule orientations and training, follow-up on progress after hire) I’d be happy to let them – it’s certainly not my favorite part of my job.
I look at the Hiring Manager and I as a team – we work together using our specialized skills to find the right fit – I use my recruitment and HR knowledge to ensure a fair and equitable process and internal equity in regards to salary; they use their Management skills and functional knowledge to determine if the candidate has the skills and experience to do the job and is a good fit for their team.
Posted by Lisa on February 22, 2008 at 4:04 pm | permalink |
Listen Lisa, you are n o b o d y, period. You are cost center contributing – nothing. “HR” was invented back in the 90s with internet boom. Enron and alike wanted massive hirings, fake projects, failing projects, to confuse stakeholders, to create fatamorgana of “growth”. You see, with successful hiring you do not need massive hiring. One successful resource can replace literally 10 of the resources selected by HR (usually uneducated resources, with qualifiers like “or equivalent” etc. Why equivalent?? Why not exact education background for the job?? Shoe salesman as – Oracle developer?! Preacher as IT strategist?! History teacher as – Director of IT infrastructure. etc. etc. – all the result of HR “work”)
How about that for productivity? Expansion? What expansion? Stocks are where they were 12 years ago, i.e. no new business value was created (thise gdp percentages cover population growth). The result was Enron after Enron, after Fanie Mae, after Nortel, after Lehman, after … They created “massive hiring” dogma, they created “HR” movement. ABSOLUTELY UNNECESSARY. HR is the culprit of the 2000-2010 decade of busts, and the worst is yet to come!
Posted by kit on July 6, 2011 at 1:39 pm | permalink |
Our employer does not allow us to ask about salaries during a job interview. If someone does, they get criticised and told that their question is inappropriate.
Posted by Janine on February 22, 2008 at 9:36 pm | permalink |
Marc,
Not a good approach. At most companies it’s hr/the recruiter you’ll be negotiating salary with. The hiring manager and hr person are on the same team, hr is not out to thwart you, the goal is to get you on board, if you’re the candidate the hiring manager wants. At a very small company with no hr department you might negotiate directly with hiring mgr, but other than that it’s hr you need to go through. Don’t underestimate the influence of hr either…if you are arrogant and condescending to us, the hiring manager will know about it…and they do value our opinion, especially when they are trying to make a decision between several candidates.
Posted by Pam on February 23, 2008 at 10:21 am | permalink |
Many great points already made. In a nutshell?
1. Understand that “pay equity” issues are real for the employer – so they do have parameters. Salary survey information is valuable to establish a baseline.
2. Superstars and Mavericks can do a lot of things, but in my experience, their requests get turned down quite a bit too.
3. Know your BATNA (Best Alternative To a Negotiated Agreement). In other words know where you will walk away and what your options are if your needs are not met with this offer.
At what offer level do the alternatives (look elsewhere, stay where you are etc) look more attractive?
Posted by Marcia Robinson on February 23, 2008 at 11:00 am | permalink |
I am a Quality Assurance Manager and I am looking for work at the moment (mainly in start-ups) if I get asked this question early on in the interview process I tend to say, “Can you give me more information about the job such as how many people I will be managing so I can give you an answer proportionate to the responsibilities?”
This kind of answer is neither evasive nor does it seem that you don’t want to answer particularly because the range of salaries for QA are subject to the specific job description and this sort of information usually gives an idea of where in the salary charts this job falls.
Does this work for anyone else?
Posted by Jonathan on February 24, 2008 at 1:44 pm | permalink |
@ Jonathan:
Jon, that sounds like a great response to me. I am also a QA Manager looking for work. Are you in biotech? In the San Francisco Bay Area? If so, then you have already heard chapter and verse of the Radford Salary Survey…the secret tome of salaries and position descriptions. That thing is the bible to HR in biotech out here. Most companies will say that they will pay according to Radford (which includes a *broad* range), but your answer shows the influence you have over the placements within the range provided.
I don’y (yet) manage people since I tend to focus on the compliance side of QA rather than product review…so I can’t use the “how many people”, “what kind of resource pool” questions.
But I like your specific answer…I will have to think about what makes each job I interview for challenging and unique, and use that as my metric. Thanks for the inspiration!
Posted by Robert in SF on February 24, 2008 at 3:33 pm | permalink |
Danny, Penelope did not give bad advice. She gave advice that doesn’t suit you as a recruiter. It’s actually GOOD advice for candidates.
Within a salary differential of $5k-$15k, your commission does not really change that much. Your interest is in placing a candidate, one that will be a ‘good fit’ (ie. they’ll stay long enough for it not to backfire on the recruiter), sure but your interest is not in getting the absolute maximum salary out of the employer. Only the candidate has the candidate’s interests truly at heart.
People have spoken about time wastage and there is an easy solution to that. The employer should advertise the salary range. If the salary range is in the job ad or disclosed to the recruiter or the candidate at interview stage, then there is no time wastage. Time wastage only occurs when BOTH the employer and the candidate are not willing to talk salary first. In my opinion, it’s the company that should be more open about their plans and expectations, not the candidate.
Posted by Caitlin on February 25, 2008 at 7:40 am | permalink |
@ Robert in SF:
Rob, don’t worry mate we aren’t competing for the same jobs (kidding); I am based in Israel and work in the hi-tech (mainly web) field.
All these comments on time wastage are true; the number of ridiculous interviews I have gone on as a result of headhunters not listening to my requirements e.g. absolutely, utterly no outsourcing jobs … I would rather have root canal treatment.
Posted by Jonathan on February 25, 2008 at 4:17 pm | permalink |
Caitlin,
I couldn’t agree with you more. Very well stated. It’s been my experience that a “sucker is born every minute.” My advice to candidates is that you always need to do your due diligence and be as well informed as possible. Recruiters (external & internal) are not out for your best interests. I’ve found most of them to be unethical and absolute liars. It’s all a game. Good luck to everyone and take care of yourselves.
Posted by JoeG on February 25, 2008 at 4:25 pm | permalink |
What if you have to apply via a web form that has a field for salary?
Posted by dewey1973 on February 26, 2008 at 2:23 am | permalink |
this was the most stupid advice I’ve ever seen… The employee ask you for an information and you refuse to give, you will look like a freak.
my advice is to first impress the interviewer, and when he asks for a salary range, simply give a very high salary, the interviewer will obviously say this is much higher than what they expected, which was (and now he says his possible salary, and probably the top limit, so he will not feel so bad for decreasing your expected value). From that, you just have try to convince him that you deserve your proposed salary. The worst thing that can happen is you start working with the top salary possible from their original range.
Posted by alan on February 26, 2008 at 6:06 am | permalink |