If you want to know how old you really are, look at the media you use rather than the generation you were born into.
Generational labels are important in the discussion of the changing workforce. For example, we need to understand who is pushing for change and who is criticizing change in order to understand how to create workplace bridges. And increasingly, young people are calling for baby boomers to get out of the way.
However I get a lot of email from people at the later end of the baby boom who do not identify with baby boomers. To some extent researchers have dealt with this issue by categorizing the latter section of the baby boom separately, as Generation Jones (born between 1954 and 1965). This category will make some people feel better, but there still will be baby boomers who are indignant at being lumped with the delusional, self-centered, money-hungry baby boomers.
But hold it. Maybe you are not really part of the generation your birthday falls under.
Here's an idea: We should determine our generation not by our age but by how we use media. This comes from Margaret Weigel, who has worked at Harvard and MIT doing research on digital media engagement:* "We should not judge people rigidly by the years they were born," she says, "If we want to define people by categories, it should be by behaviors because this is something each of us chooses."
Another reason to use media engagement to peg someone's age is that the media we use reflects both the space we live in and the circle of friends we run with. For example, you probably won't find the Wii at a senior center, and you do what your friends do or you're out of the loop.
So here is a test I put together with the help of an interview with Weigel and an evening reading her blog. Add up your points to figure out what generation you're really a part of:
Do you have your own web page? (1 point)
Have you made a web page for someone else? (2 points)
Do you IM your friends? (1 point)
Do you text your friends? (2 points)
Do you watch videos on YouTube? (1 point)
Do you remix video files from the Internet? (2 points)
Have you paid for and downloaded music from the Internet? (1 point)
Do you know where to download free (illegal) music from the Internet? (2 points)
Do you blog for professional reasons? (1 point)
Do you blog as a way to keep an online diary? (2 points)
Have you visited MySpace at least five times? (1 point)
Do you communicate with friends on Facebook? (2 points)
Do you use email to communicate with your parents? (1 point)
Did you text to communicate with your parents? (2 points)
Do you take photos with your phone? (1 point)
Do you share your photos from your phone with your friends? (2 points)
0-1 point – Baby Boomer
2-6 points – Generation Jones
6- 12 points – Generation X
12 or over – Generation Y
(Note: This post contains the views of Weigel and not necessarily those of Harvard and MIT.)









I scored 14 but i still feel thoroughly generation x. I never understood music in the 90s.
Posted by jms88 on 06/25/2007 at 02:39am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I scored 12 and I like music in the 90s, because it's very nostalgic for me.
Posted by canonical on 03/08/2009 at 05:23am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm Generation Jones, but I love the '90s music! It's what my grandparents sang to me:
"Bicyle Built for Two"
"After the Waltz"
"Sidewalks of New York"
"Meet me in St. Louie"
"The Band Played On"
This was before all that noisy and immoral jazz took over popular music.
Posted by fsilber on 2009-10-05 10:35:20 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
I think it's a bit disingenuous to boil down generational gaps to technology adaption – yes, you won't find the Wii at a senior center, but that's also related to the socio-economic status of seniors – most probably can't afford it.
Young people and the rich have disposable incomes and are easier adopters of gadgets – if Hugh Hefner scored a 12+ on this, I wouldn't lump him in the GY category – I'd more likely think he's an outlier or a mutant.
Posted by Bill Dimmick on 06/25/2007 at 03:04am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Depends on the senior centre! Here in the UK the last few years have seen the rise of 'Silver Surfers'. Retired people in their 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s and even into their 100s who are seeing their children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren use all this technology and are taking lessons to keep up. Not only are they keeping up but many of them are getting hooked and overtaking their descendants. They're certainly demanding WiFi in their seniors centres. One of my colleagues was setting up the WiFi in an elders care home and got chatting with one of the old guys there, explaining that this would allow them to surf the web from their laptops without needing wires. The old guy, who he says must have been 80 if he was a day, then asked him what security protocol he was using and if he (the 80 year old) would need a special client and if so was one available for Linux.
Don't forget, a lot of these people 60+ are the ones who built the foundations of what we're using now.
Stephen
Posted by Stephen Booth on 04/03/2009 at 07:28am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think it is useful to stretch the concept of generations, but I think it is a huge leap to assume media and technology define us. Yes, there is a strong correlation–I scored 11 and, born in 1967, I feel more Gen-Xy than Boomery. But I'm kind of a geek, so although I'm almost a millennial by this score, I know I'm not in that group. I barely use my cell phone and the only pictures I take with it are screen savers for it because I think it is outrageous to pay as much as I do just for basic service…I just wish I had good reception for the calls I make; don't need anything else. I don't use IM anymore because I don't know anyone I would want to IM. It was neat when it came out like a decade ago, but I got tired of it. Text messaging: again, who would I text? I don't want people pinging me with instant messages; they can wait. OMG, maybe I'm a boomer! I'm so confused! :)
I find it more useful to consider the values and outlook that define us…I grew up believing I could do anything I wanted and be anything I wanted. A lot of people, in any age group, have such rigid and structured ideas about everything, whereas I feel like I am the quiet rebel. I'm perpetually dissatisfied with everything and feel and urge and responsibility to change it–and frustration that I haven't done more. I'm open to ideas and I'm always looking for tools to effect change–can we use a wiki to revitalize community? Can a blog form a sustained form of community? Are online micro communities a symbol of fragmentation of our society or can they be a revitalization when leveraged by the enabling media such as social networking sites? I think that kind of attitude–maybe not the specific technology details–is closer to a definition of Gen X than age or media alone.
Posted by Dave on 06/25/2007 at 09:20am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
Ok.. I scored a 12, which make me an Xer, right on the verge of being a Yer.
But I'm 46 years old (born in 1960). By historical definitions, I have fallen solidly in the Baby Boom Generation, although I noticed that Wikipedia has recently defined Gen X as anyone born from 1960 to 1978. To confuse matters more, it also defines Baby Boomers as anyone born between 1946 and 1964.
And therein lies the rub. I could be a part of either group, but neither group correctly defines me.
I'm told, as a boomer, that I should be looking toward the end of my career and retirement, but I feel more creative, productive, effective, and energetic than I have at any time in my life.
I've been taught that I should be planning for retirement, but to me retirement is an obsolete concept. Health willing, I hope to have 25 more years to work. Even if retirement was available, I'd rather cash flow my life and find some career happiness and fulfillment through rewarding and satisfying work.
Although I do share one distinct boomer trait: I did sacrifice happiness, work-life balance, and work-family balance, for a better life at some undetermined future date at an earlier time in my life, I've come to live a life in support of what you describe as the "New American Dream" of Xers and Yers: the dream of fulfillment. I've been able to make that shift and live that life.
Many people are in the same boat I'm in, especially those that are thought of as being Boomers. They don't identify with the stereotypes of that generation. They want fulfillment, too, but aren't quite sure how to get it.
They applaud the ideas, creativity, energy, and optimism of Xers and Yers, especially the effect they're having on today's corporate culture. At the same time, they know that they have much to offer, and that they want the happiness and fulfillment others are finding, and NOW.
Thanks for giving them permission to do just that.
Posted by David at ReflectionsCoachingLLc.com on 06/25/2007 at 09:48am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow — born in 1971 and have always seen myself as part of Gen X… BUT — I scored 18 on this test (20 if you count texting parents when cell phone calls won't go through) which puts me deep into Gen Y territory. Interesting.
Posted by Stephanie on 06/25/2007 at 10:13am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I was born in 1966 and scored 9 points, so I'm Gen X on both accounts.
Posted by Lori Cates Hand on 06/25/2007 at 10:20am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Agree behavior a better gage than calendar, but you didn't fully do homework on some generalizations.
I got 1,210,000 hits googling Wii Senior Center. One popular game is bowling, for people who have decades of memories, cooridination, but not strength or commuting time to get out to bricks & mortar bowling ally.
Been distracted by repairs on elderly car, but should move from 10 to umpteen later this summer.
51 now. My grandfather got his first computer at 94 and was well on his way through Generation Jones towards Generation X when he hit a hundred.
Posted by Lyndon Baugh on 06/25/2007 at 10:22am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hi, this is the aforementioned Margaret, and yes, there are lots of seniors using Wii systems in senior centers; the NYT wrote about it not too long ago, and I think I blogged about it as well. I would hesitate to use the Wii as a measure at this point since it's pretty new and widely adopted by a various of different types of players, for different reasons.
Virtually everyone uses technology in some way, but what we use and when we adopt it says more about who we are than traditional definitions of Boomer- X -Y – Millenial. I'm a professional woman in my early forties — I enjoy YouTube and GoogleDocs (mmmmmm, GoogleDocs!), MySpace not so much. Then again, I have older friends who are on MySpace mostly because they are musicians and are publicizing their bands, and they're using the site with less of the social drama and import younger users exhibit with it.
My mother is 75 and she's getting email for the first time this month. Does this vault her to the head of the class chronologically? Or is she just catching up? And what does that say about email when it's becoming downright ubiquitous? And what does that say about who we are, how we choose to communicate and socialize and be entertained? Will the Emergency Broadcast System send out emails and text messages in the future, because really, who will be left watching broadcast TV? Should they blast a message to the WoW crowd in the game itself?
Just some food for thought, y'all. Penelope rocks, and rocks hard.
Posted by Margaret on 06/25/2007 at 11:18am | permalink | Reply to this comment
"For example, you probably won’t find the Wii at a senior center,"
Hey, I disagree. If ever there were a videogame system at a senior center, the Wii would be it.
Posted by Rahul on 06/25/2007 at 11:27am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Out of curiousity, at what point do you think we're going to start seeing a separation from the group of Millenials/Gen Y that are entering the workforce now or are currently in college and the younger group of this generation (which is sometimes listed at going all the way to 2002).
This would also be interesting to examine in light of Weigel's digital media use metrics. For example, several of my friends (myself included) have MySpace pages but generally use them only to keep in touch with people or post infrequently. My siblings, who are both in high school, use the site as their primary e-mail source. Makes me wonder what site, or simply how, my younger cousins who are 5 years old will communicate with each other.
Interesting post. Thanks, Penelope!
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This is an interesting question, Danielle. I think people are already starting to think of Gen Y as older and Millenniels as younger. Maybe my next quiz will be to figure out which one you are :)
-Penelope
Posted by Danielle on 06/25/2007 at 11:37am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Well that explains a lot. I live in a smallish, midwestern city that has been losing its young people for decades. Things are largely run by the boomers around here – old-school insurance companies are common, start-up companies are not. So where are all the young people living? Got any stats on that? I'm ready to move.
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When it comes to figuring out where the young people live, the two people who know the most are Richard Florida and Rebecca Ryan. You can check out all the stuff on their sites - they both have consulting companies.
Penelope
Posted by Pirate Jo on 06/25/2007 at 12:48pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"Do you use email to communicate with your parents? (1 point)"
"Did you text to communicate with your parents? (2 points)"
Those two don't apply to me, because my dad (age 78) doesn't have a computer. I do use them to communicate with my son, though – does that count?
For the record – born in 1964, scored 6, which I guess makes me a textbook "Generation Jones"-er (a term I'd never heard until a month ago).
Posted by Florinda on 06/25/2007 at 12:54pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Generation Jones???!! I don't even get a trendy, end-of-the-alphabet initial to identify my "lost" generation? (Hold on. It was here just a minute ago…)Once again, screwed by the Boomers, Xers and Yists.
Posted by Mike Berry on 06/25/2007 at 01:19pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
This is a lot of fun! Of course there are other criteria as well as technology that distinguish one generation from another- Penelope talks about many of these in other posts. I'd love to see a quiz that went into lots more detail, including things like psychological awareness, emotional intelligence, get-up-and-go-ness as opposed to passive attitudes towards authority, etc.
Posted by Alice Bachini-Smith on 06/25/2007 at 01:25pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
14 or 15. Gad! born in 1964, but behaving like a Gen Y whippersnapper!
I'm not sure if I should be proud that I'm hip, cool and funky or worried that I should be getting fitted for a chest wig and super-huge medallions!
So it's true – "men come of age at 60, women at 15."
Posted by Rowan Manahan on 06/25/2007 at 01:26pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Can we get over this generation crap? It tells us nothing of meaning or value. It's a simpleminded way of classification that reveals nothing important.
I don't care what generation you're from. I want to know what you know. What have you learned? Are you willing to learn? What ideas do you have? Are you all talk? Do you give up when things don't go your way? Are you someone who follows through? Can I count on you? Are you smart enought to realize you can learn from others who may not be as cool with technology as you are?
Anyway, I find that most people, once they are taught about blogs, webs, texting, etc., learn to embrace it. And it's not just about knowing how to use technology–it's knowing how to use it effectively.
And please, a younger generation telling an older genearation to get out of the way is nothing new at all.
While some memebers of the so-called "Generation Y" might be technially with it, some seem to be even more self-involved than some of the so-called baby boomers ever were. That's nothing to be proud of.
Posted by Tim on 06/25/2007 at 01:45pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Born in 1987, and scored at between 13 and 16.
I was slightly confused by the fact that my website, my 'professional' blog, and my 'online diary' are all the same thing.
Is this revealing, or simply white noise?
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I'm glad you bring up the lack of science involved here. I think the most important take away is not if the questions are perfect, but that we can think of our age and our generation in lots of different ways. And, in fact, I think a lot of us (all of us?) instictively know the generation where we feel the best fit for ourselves — whatever anyone else says about us.
–Penelope
Posted by Justin on 06/25/2007 at 01:49pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"We should not judge people rigidly by the years they were born,” she says, ”If we want to define people by categories, it should be by behaviors because this is something each of us chooses.”
I think it was perhaps not a good idea to name your 'behavioural' categories after age groups :) Perhaps something from the [survey by the Pew Internet & American Life Project?]http://www.pewinternet.org/quiz/
Their categories are:
Omnivores
Connectors
Lackluster Veterans
Productivity Enhancers
Mobile Centrics
Connected by Hassled
Inexperienced Experimenters
Light but Satisfied
Indifferents
Off the Network
But of course the biggest problem with this is that people who don't read blogs in the first place won't be here to be counted. My late-boomer father would be among them…I write a startup technology magazine and he doesn't have a clue what I do :)
Posted by Trevor Stafford on 06/25/2007 at 02:54pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I just came across this article "Viewing American class divisions through MySpace and Facebook", which could be relevant to the topic at hand. Notable extracts from the article: "Most teens who exclusively use Facebook are familiar with and have an opinion about MySpace. These teens are very aware of MySpace and they often have a negative opinion about it. They see it as gaudy, immature, and "so middle school." They prefer the "clean" look of Facebook, noting that it is more mature and that MySpace is "so lame." What hegemonic teens call gaudy can also be labeled as "glitzy" or "bling" or "fly" (or what my generation would call "phat") by subaltern teens."
More: http://www.danah.org/papers/essays/ClassDivisions.html
Via Bokardo (http://bokardo.com/archives/social-classes-on-networking-sites/)
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Oh. Great find, Rahul. Danah Boyd is doing such interesting research. I have interviewed her on this blog before. She's so on the bleeding-edge of the internal lives of young people. Thanks for giving us a link.
-Penelope
Posted by Rahul on 06/25/2007 at 04:28pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I agree with Tim that the whole concept of generations is vastly over-rated. It exists – there's no denying that growing up during the Depression (for example) changes your outlook on the world – but it's overdone as a useful means to tell you about someone.
Most sociologists would argue that other factors – gender and class and educational status and ethnicity and nationality – have a greater bearing on someone's outlook and behaviour. The thing is that because they are genuinely important they are also far more sensitive. People are prone to make generalisations about generations because it's safe, unlike making generalisations about race or class, which is a hot potato.
I still did the test though. I scored 20, putting me firmly in Gen Y territory. Hmmm… I'm 31 and I guess by conventional standards I'm on the cusp of Gen X and Gen Y. I always identified as Gen X though, I guess because I came to age in the era of Nirvana and Reality Bites and also because I have been in the workforce for 10 years and I lived through the whole dotcom boom and crash.
Now that I am 31, I have no problem with being in a younger generation but when I was 18 I wanted to be the older, cooler Gen X. Grouping myself in Gen Y (or the Nintendo Clan as I remembered it being called at the time) would have lumped me in with kids who were still in high school.
I think siblings also have a bit to do with it, especially for people like me on the cusp of generations. I think if you have older siblings that had a big influence on you then that makes you more likely to fit in with the generation above you and vice versa.
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Caitlin,
Well, generations are not there to describe people, they are there to describe history. I think there's value in understanding individuals and value in understanding groups and trends. And if you talk about the group you have to ditch the nuances of the individuals. I think it's okay.. well, of course, I think it's fascinating since I write about it all the time.
Interesting point about siblings, though. I think you're right that it has something to do with this. I have Gen Y brothers who, on this test, are Gen X. I bet that if they had younger siblings instead of older siblings they'd be scoring points on the test for things like remixing video — something their older siblings would never do.
Penelope
Posted by Caitlin on 06/25/2007 at 04:39pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I ended up with thirteen points–Generation Y. I'm not about to say when I was born, because it might ruin my image if people knew I was really eighty-eight years old. Oops.
My dad really got with it, and after retirement, is now making tons developing online coursework. Too bad he waited until retirement.
Posted by Bloggrrl on 06/25/2007 at 04:43pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Interesting thoughts, but don't you think it's a bit American-centric?
Still, born in 1982, this confirms what I've always suspected – that with 10 points, I'm more an Xer than a Y.
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The whole idea of dividing US history into generations is America-centric. No way around that.
- P
Posted by Jillian on 06/25/2007 at 05:25pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
At 41 years old I am way too old to fall between Gen X and Y…so thanks for the quiz, as it made me feel young for a few seconds
Posted by Thom Singer on 06/25/2007 at 06:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Using this criteria, my 73 year old mother is a Generation Jones(er).
I agree that class, education, ethnicity, et al. have a much bigger influence on who we are than what generation we fall into, but as Caitlin pointed out, those issues are far more sensitive and no one wants to talk about them.
Posted by Suze on 06/25/2007 at 06:35pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
23!
(If only I bought music on iTunes)
I think you missed a big one here Penelope – Gaming. When put in front of a PC/Console – does it take less than 1 minute to pick up how the game plays? (Or a question along those lines)
(oh – and I always find it interesting in reading any financial news source that talks about the "gaming industry".. It gets my attention until I realize they are talking about the "gambling industry" – which has done a great job of re branding itself to something that sounds nicer..)
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Great point, Rob.
Margaret actually made a big point of this. She said such interesting things. For example causal games, like solitare, are not generally social. But "big games", which are arranged between people who don't know each other, via cell phone, are very social, because you have to talk with people when you meet them in person.
I didn't use games as a test question because while both genders in gen Y play games, older people who play games are mostly men.
Penelope
Posted by Rob on 06/25/2007 at 08:34pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, there's a variety of research that states that the "older" community of casual game players is a 50/50 split between genders, especially in the case of simple online games such as Bejeweled and comparables (your Solitaire example would fit the bill).
So it depends on what you classify as "games". I wouldn't take Xbox 360 particularly seriously in trying to define what generation someone is from, but whether or not they play simple web games could be a pretty important metric, all things considered.
Posted by Rahul on 06/26/2007 at 03:19am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I don’t agree with Jillian (or Penelope!) that this is at all US-centric.
Generations are defined usually by epochs in history – and these days these are largely global. WWI was a global war. The Great Depression was a global recession. WWII was a global war. The feminist and social revolution of the 1960s and 1970s happened all over the world (plenty of bra burning in the UK and Australia!). The internet is a global phenomenon.
To take one example: Baby Boomers exist all over the world. World War II was not something that just happened in America (in fact you were late into the war). The war was fought in Europe and Asia and also involved millions of men from Commonwealth nations such as Australia and Canada and former British colonies such as India and Jamaica. The Baby Boom that resulted happened everywhere, from Singapore to Germany, not just the US.
It’s interesting to see how much traction the concept of Generation Jones (what an awful name!) has received already. It was invented by a media agency (which buys advertising) called Carat at some point last year. There’s a lot of research behind it of course.
Posted by Caitlin on 06/26/2007 at 05:41am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Besides these questions I will put more weight on general attitude to conclude where do we belong. I read/write blogs, download in bittorrent endlessly and use all the so called web 2.0 sites, and I am closing 40. But the point is I see my colleagues in peer group so ignorant of all these and the fallout is – they don't understand usability in any tool and introduce prehistoric tools everyday in business; they don't understand the value of collaborative tools and urge to send everything by mail; they don't understand a free culture can give excellent output and insist on dress code and strict timings. (maybe i am seriously offtopic:)
Posted by s on 06/26/2007 at 05:41am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Here's the Globe/NYT article on use of Wiis in Senior Centers, for those who were curious:
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/06/16/games_seek_to_bring_seniors_to_their_feet/
When I think of how much trouble I had getting my dad used to a mouse, this seems a bit scary to me. :)
Posted by Andrew on 06/26/2007 at 09:02am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hurrah, 17. So far your survey puts me in the correct bracket.
Posted by Dustin on 06/26/2007 at 10:01am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Actually, technology adoption is not a primary factor in generational identity. In the sociological model of “age-period-cohort,” technology opportunities and adoption reflect only the period dimension. Take music for example: Boomers have generally and easily adopted 45 RPM records, LPs, 8-track stereos, cassette players, CDs, MP3 players, and now XM Radio. Yet, we’re still rocking to “I Can’t Get No (Satisfaction)” through these playback devices. Generational identity is driven more by the cohort dimension, which includes adoption of values early in adulthood based on "collective mentalities" around historical events. (As a result of many feminist activities of the 60's, Boomers widely adopted and then institutionalized gender equality as a keystone value, and this permeates the Luddites and the techies.) This is a complex topic for a quick post, but I have more insights about generational and sociological theory at http://boomers.typepad.com.
Posted by Brent Green on 06/26/2007 at 11:08am | permalink | Reply to this comment
To Caitlin's comment about Generation Jones, Caret did not create this generational conceptualization. This is the creation of Jonathan Pontell, and Caret simply adopted the construct. Many of us in the area of generational marketing have recognized the difference between generational cohort and a demographic generation. The post-World War II baby boom is a demographic phenomenon. A cohort often occupies much less time, say five years either side of your birth year. If you're a Joneser and interested, check out http://www.jonathanpontell.com. Also, to those who doubt the effectiveness of marketing to generations, I'm firm on the point that it works. Consider Ameriprise and its Leading-Edge Boomer-themed launch campaign. The brand began in October 2006 and opened at $24 per share. One year later (and after millions invested in targeting Boomers with cohort-themed messages), the share price was over $48. Today it's over $60. Boomers voted in favor of this generational marketing approach with their investment dollars.
Posted by Brent Green on 06/26/2007 at 11:28am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Excellent! I got younger as I read your post! Boomer to Joneser to X-er in less than 5 minutes!
Posted by PunditMom on 06/26/2007 at 11:51am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Cool! I'm getting younger every day!
I am a textbook Joneser, born in 1964.
Posted by Elizabeth on 06/26/2007 at 02:16pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Some interesting ideas in there, but they certainly don't take into account many of the specific wrinkles of my situation, and I doubt that I'm the only one. I was born in 1957, which puts me firmly into Generation Jones, but I have always been an early adapter (first home computer bought in 1978). That experience as well as some lively privacy concerns/paranoia (the result of too many "spooky" jobs) has kept me away from most of the texting/IM areas. I've had a personal web page and built some for folks, but in the end determined that I didn't want to share my interesting info with the world. What I was willing to share wasn't worth the effort of updating/keeping current, so those efforts lapsed. Same thing with the phones – where I work, I usually can't use my phone (or even have it with me), when I'm on the road, I can't answer or use the phone (motorcyclist), and when I get home, I don't want the electronic leash to bother me. Even thought I've had a cell phone for years, and even went for several years with only a cell, no landline, I always purchase the device with the fewest features and turn off messaging, web connectivity, down-loadable ring-tones, etc. I use the phone when I need it, and ignore it the rest of the time (or turn it off). Similar issues with music – I'd rather buy a CD and rip the music to my MP3 player/desktop/laptop than buy the music online and deal with all the DRM hassles. Same sort of issues with MySpace, FaceBook, and blogs. I have no need to reach a large audience, so I don't see any benefit to putting myself out there on the blogosphere.
Posted by Dave on 06/26/2007 at 04:20pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Brent, I stand corrected. I didn't mean to credit Carat with Jonathan Portell's work. I am a UK-based media journalist and I was told about by Carat UK. I had the impression it was their work but this could easily be a misunderstanding.
Posted by Caitlin on 06/26/2007 at 05:49pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I didn't mean to be too brazen, Caitlin. ;-} I just wanted to add some insights to the discussion. I know Jonathan Pontell personally, and you might want to contact him sometime to understand the evolution of Generation Jones. It's an interesting story — one that has been embraced in the UK and Europe but is now just gaining traction in the US. I know from speaking to thousands during keynote addresses, incidentally, that Generation Jones is a self-identifying construct with strong gut appeal to many in a so-called "lost generation."
Posted by Brent Green on 06/26/2007 at 06:18pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
19
And i'me a late babyboomer :-) so go figure
Posted by Neuromancer on 06/27/2007 at 05:22pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I scored 5 points on thia quiz, which fits the fact that I was born in 1960–I am a true GenJoneser. I've been seeing lots of media stuff about generation Jones, and am so glad for it–finally our long-ignored generation is getting some well-deserved attention! It's funny, I was just talking with some old high school friends about GenJones a few days ago–we were laughing at ourselves about how into this whole Generation Jones movement we are, I think most of us Jonesers are just fed up with being left out of the national debate, so it feels good to finally have a collective identity (and "Generation Jones" is such a cool-sounding name!). Thanks for the quiz, I enjoyed it…
Posted by Linda Marsten on 06/27/2007 at 05:44pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I scored 1 point for downloading music. I guess that makes me a 33 year old Baby Boomer. Many of the items on the list are just high tech ways to waste time.
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Well, here's an interesting way to look at things. How you choose to waste time is a good way to define which generation you fit into. I mean, everyone wastes time in some way, right?
PS Communicating with parents as a time waster? Moms and dads around the world are cringing!
Penelope
Posted by Steve on 06/27/2007 at 05:55pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
No Penelope, I either pick up the phone and call or drop by and visit. Either way, I don't check in every hour like some Gen Y still attached to the cord.
Posted by Steve on 06/28/2007 at 09:34am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Awesome. "Some Gen Y". Profileration! Recognition! Gimme more of these doggone insults!
Posted by Rahul on 06/28/2007 at 09:39am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Interesting quiz. For giggles, I scored both myself and my husband, and it confirmed what I already knew: that despite being only five years older than me, my spouse acts and thinks about two generations older. He scored as a Baby Boomer, while I scored as Gen Y. I'm 35 and he's 40.
However, this gap is accounted for when you consider that he was the youngest of five children, the oldest of which is nearly old enough to be his mother. He was born Gen X, but -raised- in a Baby Boomer household. His parents are my grandparents' ages.
The upshot is that often he acts far, far older than he is. He carries old fashioned notions that grate on my nerves and strike me as 'stodgy', while my very young attitudes strike him as 'irresponsible'. Somehow, we manage to meet in the middle, with him grounding me and me dragging him kicking and screaming into the 21st century.
Fun quiz and article – thanks!
Posted by Julie on 07/01/2007 at 08:29pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I scored a 12… at the high end of my Generation (Gen X). I sometimes feel like I am part of both Gen X and Gen Y. Most likely because I was born right near the end of the Generation X years (1972).
Love the quiz!
Posted by John C on 07/02/2007 at 09:10pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
The Generation Jones stuff is very interesting to me. I was born in 1965 and feel like I don't belong to either the boomer of Gen X's I work with.
BUT I did score 16 on this quiz which makes me a 40-something Gen Y!
Posted by JanieH on 07/06/2007 at 09:48pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Great quiz.
I scored 10 — not bad for someone in a 40-something baby boomer.
Posted by Chris on 07/08/2007 at 09:52am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I found the test quite interesting but meaningless. As I type this, the only internet connection available is a dial up modem and there is no cell phone service. All the talk about the modern tools supposedly available, aren't available to all. Second, at my federal work place with high speed internet, use of facebooks, downloading of video and downloading of audio is prohibited. I can do all the things listed in the list, but have no way to do it at home. BTW, I started programming computers in 1967 and kept up with the changes since then so I am not technologically illiterate.
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This is actually a good description of why the test works: A gen y worker would do everything they possibly could to get out of a work situation that had a dial-up modem. So that the dial-up modem makes you unable to get points on the test seems right to me. Your age is revealed in the fact that you are willing to stay in the office you're in. It's not a bad thing that you're staying. It's that a younger person wouldn't want to because of the technology issues.
–Penelope
Posted by north dakota resident on 07/12/2007 at 08:19am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I failed to indicate I was blogging from home on my dial up modem. Now retired, my former workplace, a federal agency has high speed internet, but as I did clearly state, accessing face books, downloading pictures, movies, or streaming audio or video or any of those questions mentioned in the test are both blocked and prohibited and could be grounds for firing. Many facilities in rural areas have only dial up access. Your comment of "It’s that a younger person wouldn’t want to because of the technology issues. " logically follows that no self respecting GenY individual would want to work for the federal government, state agencies and many large businesses because of restrictions on internet access at work. I could have answered yes to all the questions since I have done all of them in other locations, but as I stated, without access to high speed internet and no hope of ever getting one in these rural areas, it is not likely I will ever get tp use it. This is why I thought the test was very short sighted. It is a perfectly valid test for those who have high speed access but completely invalid for those who live where such access is not available, which at the current time in the US accounts for almost 25% of the population from the last survey I read.
Posted by north dakota resident on 07/12/2007 at 12:45pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Interesting. I was born in 1966 and scored a 4. That sorta would put me in the generation jones group. But I own 5 pc's connected to the internet, a 360, ps3 and a wii.
I make video games for my job and am very tech savey. My wife has a blackbury so why text her when I can send her email. I use a small digital camera the photo quality of phones is just crap. I don't really download music but I have downloaded movies and play them on my TV through my 360 when I have a chance to watch TV. I have young twins and play a MMOG they togther take up my time so I don't have time for myspace or a blog.
Posted by Dan on 07/12/2007 at 01:07pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I scored a 12, but I'm def gen X. This quiz is stupid.
Posted by acsports on 07/12/2007 at 01:29pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
oh crap… I thought I was lost before… now I take this test and it confirms that I really am lost. I scored a 6 – so does that mean I'm a gen joner and/or gen Xer… or am I still a gen unknowner?
Posted by mac on 07/12/2007 at 02:42pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
As you mentioned in your preamble this will still not really categorize people well (thank goodness). I scored only a 1 but I am in complete sympathy with, an pretty much work like, your profile of the Gen Y crowd – even though I was born in 1955.
Posted by Thys on 07/12/2007 at 04:12pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
This is not a generation test. This is a dork test. I mean come on seriously… how retarded is this test people?
Posted by Fred on 07/12/2007 at 05:29pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
This quiz is lame. Born in 1980 and only scored a 1. So I'm a baby boomer? I think not. How about some other criteria besides tech stuff? I don't have a webpage or download songs because I HAVE A JOB and more importantly, I HAVE A LIFE (hiking, kayaking, travel, etc)–who has time to download 400 songs into their iPOD? And why would you email your parents? Pick up one of your 4 cell phone/mp3 player/camera things and CALL THEM! It's nice to hear a human voice once in awhile. And I don't have a personal blog, because…hello! it's personal! A lot of people seem to have verbal diarrhea–too much information! Try keeping some things to yourself. Or try this: find a real true friend to bare your soul to, not strangers on the internet.
Posted by marta on 07/12/2007 at 05:40pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hey you said it all and I bloody agree. It's annoying.
Posted by Angelo on 10/12/2009 at 09:14pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Well I was born in 1956 and scored a 16 on the test. I never did identify with the boomers anyway, except for the music like Cream, Hendrix, etc.
But hey, I've been involved with the Internet longer than some Gen Y'ers have been born, though it was Arpanet back then.
I'm heavily involved with Second Life, been through 17 Internet related startups.
So labels to me are irrelevant.
Posted by Tom on 07/12/2007 at 05:43pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I need to learn more about Apranet. Thanks for the tip.
Posted by Angelo on 10/12/2009 at 09:15pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I suppose gen x would be asked " did you tape Friends this week" hehe, hilarious, really. How about questions like "are you able to evade all taxes except sales and service taxes?"
Posted by Brian on 07/12/2007 at 05:48pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
There is more to what generation you are a part of than how much technology you use. I think it has alot to do with your personality and the way people see the world.
Posted by Joseph on 07/13/2007 at 02:25pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
It really depends on which culture you are born and raised. Its so funny that here in the US we make a big deal about text messaging. Back in the Philippines we used text messaging since 1994, and text messaging I believe became mainstream in the US back in 2002? So what's the fuss all about? I came to the US in 2001 and when I saw a commercial on the TV regarding how "cool" text messaging is (this was back in 2002), I was stunned, this was ancient news to me, we've been texting back home since 1994! Its not how savvy you are regarding new technology (I am not dismissing that these new technology does not help making our lives more convenient), but its a matter on how you get the job done and your outlook in life…
Posted by Jules on 07/13/2007 at 02:33pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Take this: the US is always behind Western Europe. They have Bicycle systems in Paris, ezpass 20 years before us. It's the same story.
Posted by Angelo on 10/12/2009 at 09:18pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
i've always identified with gen x. we were the disenchanted ones that everyone thought we were a bunch of freaks but are now people that are running companies and defending your freedom. yes i have piercings and tattoos and listen to punk and jazz and drive a saturn and i'm on myspace (and so are most of my 30 something friends) and i have and regularly use my cell phone. i use technology where it makes my life easier and saves me trouble, and dont where it makes it more difficult,
and i still show up for work everyday and pay my bills on time and have a 401k.
Posted by gretchen on 07/13/2007 at 03:25pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I was born in 1976 and scored a 10. I'm glad to see I'm still an Xer.
Posted by Kellie on 07/13/2007 at 03:30pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
This test tells you nothing. I don't believe technologically literate people belong to just one generation. Individuals must adapt to understanding such things as text messaging, mail mergers, etc. If we didn't, we'd all be out of a job.
Posted by Steven on 07/13/2007 at 08:11pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I scored as a Gen Y person, which I find amusing because I am actually 43, can (for the most part) spell correctly, and can keep a job for more than week before declaring that my boss is a doofus.
Posted by Ginny on 07/13/2007 at 11:12pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Some of this test seems to be right out of the cell phone marketing manual. Not all Gen Y is a fool for cell phone gimmicks that add costs without making your life better
Posted by Pat on 07/14/2007 at 03:49pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Funny! I'm 57 and retired, but I scored 14, which puts me in GenY. Funnier still, I can think of a number of friends my age or older who would score similarly on this quiz. Common factors: all of us are fulltime RVers equipped with lots of solar panels, all of us use Macs pretty intensively, and all of us have satellite internet setups that give us broadband access wherever we go. Gee, it's fun to break stereotypes! ;-)
Posted by Andy Baird on 07/20/2007 at 09:55pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Interesting!This list would make almost every person in Japan from 60-12 a generation Y cuz the questions only cover how tech-savvy you are.
Posted by I on 07/26/2007 at 10:00pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I agree with Ginny. Do we seriously have to pay for texting and sending pictures from our phones to be considered part of the newer generation? I choose instead to call friends (mostly on nights and weekends, so I can talk as long as I want for free), and use AIM and facebook (also free). Many people of the newer generation have not yet had the chance to make tons of money that they can throw away on cell phone plans.
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There are lots of ways for you to score in Gen Y without texting. And sending photos from your phone is free. My husband sends me photos to my email box every day.
–Penelope
Posted by Stephen on 07/30/2007 at 11:22am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hmmm…I take issue with your scoring generations based on technology. I scored 14 and I'll be 40 this year. My 68 year old mother scored 7…
Posted by L. Bates on 07/30/2007 at 01:34pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow!
I scored 'Generation Jones' (5 points), and I'm 13. I do not IM, text, I don't use MySpace, Facebook, YouTube, etc. I don't send pictures from my phone, I don't blog, and I use my phone to keep in contact with my parents.
I only scored points for making a webpage for another person, downloading illegal music, and taking pictures with my phone.
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Hm. Interesting. I did not expect such young people to be taking the test. But I am happy to hear from you. And your results sort of make sense because you are not Generation Y. You are something else. Makes sense that you would communicate in patterns that older people would not dream up for a test like this….
Penelope
Posted by Patrick on 07/30/2007 at 10:11pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow, now we can judge the sophistication, intelligence and maturity, of people by the gadgets they use. Then we can neatly place them into labled boxes so we can judge them as a group as to their productivity, chances of success, etc.
Posted by Bob on 07/31/2007 at 10:32am | permalink | Reply to this comment
"Hm. Interesting. I did not expect such young people to be taking the test. But I am happy to hear from you. And your results sort of make sense because you are not Generation Y. You are something else. Makes sense that you would communicate in patterns that older people would not dream up for a test like this….
Penelope"
Well, the thing is, most of my classmates would score in Generation Y. It's almost as if they're addicted to IM, MySpace, cell phones, etc.
Posted by Patrick on 08/02/2007 at 06:27pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I found this site on the web that seems to have something similiar with regards to identifying ones generational affiliation…
http://www.generationalprofiles.com
Posted by Tim Harris on 08/06/2007 at 06:26pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
According to the test I'm in Generation Y and that's without a cellphone and both parents being deceased.
The description of Baby Boomers as delusional, self-centered, money-hungry people I take offense to as I am none of the above.
Baby Boomers are born from 1946 (Mothers got pregnant after World War II giving birth in 1946) to 1959. Anyone born after that may consider themselves a Baby Boomers (as my brothers do vehemently) but that's only because nothing is cut and dry in generational flows. The Baby Boomers being so influential extend that clout into 1963/64 and some experts say even into 1966. Geez! but these are called "Shadow" boomers mainly our little brothers & sisters that follow us around EVERYWHERE!
In 1946 only 33% of Adults had their high school diploma versus 85% today and only 5% had a 4 year college degree versus 28% today. Check out the U.S. Census for more fun facts about "us" (http://www.census.gov)if you're a woman driving playing sports, driving your own car, earning your own money thank Boomers. If you are American of African, Native, etc. thank Boomers. Boomers have done a whole lot. Yes we have A*holes, but most of us are just hard-working, goal-setting, lovers of CHOICE. Peace.
Posted by Cruz on 08/29/2007 at 03:33am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I scored 17. I was born in june 78. So I'm Gen Y according to this quiz. I feel caught between Gen X and Gen Y though.
Posted by jjfad on 09/05/2007 at 07:14pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I scored 17 and that makes me Y.
Although I will not say when I was born, suffice it to say I finished my Bachelor's in the early 1990s. So I am supposed to be a Gen-X. A random classmate even made it to a cover story about Gen-X way back in the late 1990s in India.
How does this compute? Well I trained originally to be an engineer, so I take to technology swiftly so all tech-centric questions are bound to push me that way.
Ask some other questions about values, lingo used (not lingo familiar with, because Gen-X is sharp and we get it all, though we may not adopt it all), views on politics/ religion etc and that will begin to scratch the surface a bit more.
Any more quizzes coming then, Penelope?
Posted by Shefaly on 09/07/2007 at 12:18pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
How odd, I scored a 7 and I was born in 1982. I'm definitely too young to be a "Generation Jones" whatever that is. I'm thinking I'm just technologically behind for my age. Technology doesn't necessarily reflect mindset, ideals etc usually associated with a generation.
Posted by Dara on 09/28/2007 at 03:43pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Yea, well I scored 13 and I was born in '52. But my wife scores less than 6 for sure. My Dad was born in 1920 and he scores 1. Where do you put him? He uses Skype too. With a Webcam.
The premise is on target, but of course to be anything more than a parlor-game would take a lot more questions. Like I'd probably lose points for using a spell-checker. Real Gen-Yers are way ahead of the machine in that respect.
Posted by Jake on 10/09/2007 at 11:22am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Interesting test, but you can't change the biological statistics of when you were born just because you want to. You may identify more with one generation than another, but facts are facts. The baby boom generation ends in 1964 because the birthrate fell dramatically in 1965 from what it had been. That's a proven statistic. Therefore, those born in 1965, 66, and 67 (who are often lumped in with young boomers) are Generation X. The so-called Jones generation is a new thing that was made up by a baby boomer who wants to have younger people in his generation so he can feel young himself. Why do you think 50 is the "new 40"?
Posted by Lilpinknose on 10/09/2007 at 12:40pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
yup, I'm a millenial. :)
Posted by surfer22dude on 10/17/2007 at 07:55pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Okay, I came up as being part of "Generation Jones" even though I was born in 1970. However, this test only measures one's use of technology, NOT general attitudes. I don't agree with the Generation Jones theory, because I have siblings born in both the mid-late 1950s and early-mid 1960s and the attitudes are VERY different. In my opinion, 1950s babies are the most self-centered group of people I've ever encountered, and they have projected such attitudes on to their Millenial Generation offspring. Gen Xers got the dirty end of the stick, because the Baby Boomers held on to what they had, and to hell with anyone else, due to their narcissistic attitudes, and that's why Gen Xers had such a hard time getting established, and why we are so much more negative and suspicious than the generations before and after us.
Posted by Massguy1970 on 11/13/2007 at 04:43pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I was born in July 4, 1977, and I score an 8, so I'm really a Generation Xer since it's 1965-1980. This test is on a money with my age group because I didn't own a computer until this year. I didn't know anything about buying tracks from the internet until I have my own computer this year. I didn't have a cell phone until this year, so, I'm definitely a Generation Xer.
Posted by Nicole Little on 11/18/2007 at 06:12pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I score 10, which puts me right in the middle of Generation X, whereas I'm supposed to be at the older end of Generation Jones.
This is just a way to measure your ease around technology (well, one kind of technology), but there are some true things in it. In my profession, I see the difference between the younger generations and my or older generations, with respect to e-mail, the internet, etc. No wonder that I seem to be ahead of many of them, at least in that department. It all boils down to how well you fit in with the tools of the time. My mother hated her washing machine and I don't think she ever used it on her own!
Posted by Nadine on 12/11/2007 at 04:58pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hmmm. So, I'm in Gen Y with a 16. And I might have scored higher if my parents were still alive to text with me.
But they're not alive because they'd be 101 and 91 years old this year. Me? I just turned 52, but most of the people I hang out with (and use these tools to communicate with) are 20-30.
So how do I belong in Gen Y?
Well, like them, I'm at the bottom end of the economic scale despite a university education (in business, of all things), and looking for work, but they are just starting out, and I was purged from my ad agency job in a cost-cutting bloodbath.
Like them, I've recently left home after 18 yearsand am learning how to live on my own, but this is the result of my marriage ending.
Also like them, I am trying to figure out who and what I'm going to be when I grow up.
But no time for that now. I've got to check my MySpace for messages.
By the way, no Facebook for me. My Gen Y friends tell me that MySpace is okay (especially because so many bands are on there and I am a music writer), but a 52-year-old guy on Facebook is just creepy.
I may feel 30, but I'm still 52, after all.
Posted by John Chacona on 12/11/2007 at 05:10pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
and how about "You listen/watch your I-Pod at least 2 times in a day (1 point)"
cool post btw:)
Posted by radha on 12/19/2007 at 10:35pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm Gen X –all the way, self employed, creative, I took my first salaried job EVER eight weeks ago and freakin' because of the "designated max time-off factor" I am really curious of this Gen Y (I'm labeling the Ass Kisser Gen –and I mean that in a good way)… it seems these kids are more like my grandmother's generation (socially) is this true? Ttheir views on marriage (they're doing that), working for same corporation long-term etc…. I'm just not relating???
Posted by Kim hawkins on 01/04/2008 at 10:55pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think there might be some in-between categories — for example: My friends and I email each other, but we text our kids.
Also, I spend almost no time on Facebook, but hours on AdGabbers — though when real friendships/associations from there take root, my experience is they tend to shift to email at a certain point. (Maybe because we start contemplating real business . . .)
Posted by Mary Baum on 01/26/2008 at 11:43pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
1978 whes when I was born, and I scored a 17…shit I think I scored a 17 about the past 4 years, so that makes me cool, I guess p)
Posted by The Clit Commander78 on 02/04/2008 at 03:21pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
The funny thing about generation demographics is that the media wants us to all be who we're not by saying we come from different classifications of a generation. I don't see myself as an Xer because I'm not lazy, slacking, latchkey, cynical, or wear flannel and frequent coffee shops in liberal settings. Not everyone is the same. I DO, however, love techno music, a popular trend during the Gen-X youth era. I've grown up with computers since I was in baby shoes (the pleasures of attending military schools in the 1980s). I saw the internet for the first time at age 15 and was quite obsessed with it at 17. It kind of sucks being in the 1977-1982 range because those are the transition years from Gen-X and Gen-Y, but at the same time, it's cool because we have the ability and desire to pick which generation we want to be a part of :)
Posted by The Clit Commander78 on 02/04/2008 at 03:32pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm sure my 15 year old daughter will find it amusingly funny that her dad is a 46 year old Gen Yer…!
Posted by av8eire on 02/25/2008 at 09:21pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I scored a 17. I lost points on the phone part – I just graduated college and I'm too poor to buy a fancy phone with text messaging and camera!
Posted by Kate on 02/27/2008 at 01:24pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm 21, about to be 22, born in 1986, and I scored a 24 – I'm clearly Gen Y, lol.
Posted by William Peregoy on 03/06/2008 at 09:43pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'll be 51 in a matter of days. Feel like I'm 31. Love to work. Have no intention WHATSOEVER of retiring.
Own my own business enterprises, employ boomers, x'rs, y'rs, even a few from "the greatest generation". Scored 14 on your little test above. Gen Y'r trapped in a boomer body? Nope… I'm just a smart Boomer that keeps up with tech. (There are a lot of boomers just like me out there, by the way.)
So… If I have that much going for me (according to what appears to be your estimable criteria), why izit that I absolutely ABHOR the Gen Y / New Millenials as employees? Because, I am finding (almost without exception) a frightening lack of principal/ethics among those youth. Will I think twice about rewarding/promoting Gen-Y-ers? Hell, yes. Will I put a Gen-Y app at the bottom of the pile? Probably. Experience hath shown: Don't trust 'em. Don't believe 'em. And I'm not alone.
There's a reason why WE, the power brokers, sit in our board rooms and roll our eyes at the demands and expectations of inexperienced 20-somethings, and call 'em Gen-Whiners. All the petulent foot-stamping and demands for respect only result in denying their incessant and irritating whiney demands for promotions, raises, perks.
I am sick and tired of reading all the drivel out there about how the business world has to get over it and realign to the 'needs' of this new generation. BS. Kiddees, it's time to realign YOURSELVVES to the expectations of the signer of your paycheck. The benefactor of your lifestyle choice. So, if you want respect and perks and a big paycheck, put your whiney little ass on the line and start up your own company with your own capital and face the consequences of your own actions (or, inactions thereof).
Gen Y is about to find out the unpleasantries of a recession-economy. Work ethic (put in the time without complaining, account for your actions) will become more important than ever in their short inexperienced lifetimes.
Stop texting and get to work.
Posted by Dyan Morgan on 03/22/2008 at 08:36pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hello, I've read many quizzes before and including yours. However even though most people are computer friendly doesn't mean baby boomers aren't. Even though you I supposed have researched about Baby boomers before you have not taken into account those who are taught by their generationX and Y kids and grandkids. And yes there are senior centers with WII's in them, apparently you have never seen the Wii commercial with seniors playing bowling with a Wii. So please consider this.
Posted by Cherry on 03/28/2008 at 03:42pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
@ Dyan Morgan – laugh out loud hilarious. "Stop texting and get to work." Apparently I'm Gen Y, but it doesn't really matter. I cannot stand text messaging and the attitude that comes with it. I have started simply walking away from people who start texting or talking on their cells when they purport to want to talk to me. What is so urgent that it you can't say, "Excuse me." Or find another time to text?
Also, "Gen Y is about to find out the unpleasantries of a recession-economy." Absolutely, you only need a pulse to be aware of this, but take into consideration the candidates Gen Y tends to support. Obama for example, who is heavy into government spending…perhaps they think the government can sign their paychecks (i.e. unnecessary social support programs) and make things all better.
Posted by Milena on 03/28/2008 at 05:42pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
pretty accurate! atleast it worked for me!
Posted by Living Off Dividends & Passive Income on 04/11/2008 at 04:43am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Good thoughts, but you are wrong on some points. I work for Nintendo, and when we rolled out the Wii, one of our key target demographics were senior citizens. And thus far they have been a huge hit because they are so accessible. The unit is easy to use, and we have targeted people of all ages, and seniors heavily. Not only is the Wii the fastest selling Video Game Console in the history of the gaming industry but it has broken down many barriers in terms of "who" uses it. I see your point, but you should know that the Wii transcends in the case. . Just google it. Many senior homes have them, and parents are really into it as well. One good website to find out more information is mywiistory.com
Posted by Charles on 04/14/2008 at 02:30am | permalink | Reply to this comment
And just to refute somebody else's comment: the Wii is the most affordable gaming unit out there. End being corporate lackey.
Posted by Charles on 04/14/2008 at 02:37am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I scored 4 on the test and I'm Generation X!
I only started using the internet and mobiles (cellphones) in this millenium, spending most of my life without them.
Posted by Gen X on 05/10/2008 at 09:34am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I also score 3 on the test and also generation X too. because in our country,the high technology computers was not yet spreading in our country and it is very expensive for the better one, unlike the other country that they are almost using the very hi-tech computers.
Posted by john Caven on 05/19/2008 at 02:38am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This is funny post. I'm 47 and scored 10. I must be young at heart!
Posted by Mike on 06/17/2008 at 09:47pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Great post! I'm 45 but scored a 19.
I didn't give myself 2 points for texting my parents even though I did send my mother her very first text message. We were in the mall and had gotten separated. She was thrilled but I don't dare tax her like that again! (She's 71.)
Posted by Beyond Niche Marketing on 07/09/2008 at 07:40am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm 47 and the test has me right square where I should be – in the Jones generation.
Good test.
Posted by historical ken on 08/02/2008 at 10:20pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Well, not bad for an old fart at 50. Score of 12. Born 080858. SHould be a baby boomer yet there I am on the cusp between Gen x and y. Think the kids I teach keep me young and keep me hip. :P
Cheers, John.
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Posted by John Larkin on 08/26/2008 at 03:24am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Oh, that was just really fun. Great job on the test.
Posted by Stretch Mark Mama on 09/19/2008 at 01:57am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Also – I have a loosely contrived theory that if you do not know for certain if you are a Baby Boomer, A Gen Xer or a Millienial (Gen Y) then you are in fact a member of Generation X. Baby Boomers and Gen Y know exactly who they are. Thus, one more reason GenX is referred to as the lost generation. I don't really buy into Generation Jones. Gen X is already not cohesive enough and what Generation spans seven or so years?
Posted by JenX67 on 09/19/2008 at 03:14pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm an old soul – I'm firmly in the Y camp by age but an X'er by tech usage habits. I got over the internet popularity contest thing when I was in college, and consciously opt-out of MySpace and Facebook.
I am frustrated by the number of people in my age-cohort who are hitting their mid-20s and still behave like preteens.
Until the social networking sites build a better mousetrap – letting me rank the strength of connections, and set up a layered rules-based approach to content control, I can't risk my career future by creating one page wherein my boss can connect to people with whom I maintain a casual connection. Only serious friends should get to see my business connections, and no work relations should see any of my social world.
To Dyan – I laughed aloud at your comment. I suppose that's why my VP was stunned on my birthday to find out I was just 26. I'm a full decade younger than everyone else in my weekly meetings, and yet my voice carries weight and things get done. He'd assumed I was in my early 30s.
Posted by Margo on 10/03/2008 at 01:37am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Lol very funny post. Very interesting discussion. I am 26 years old and I scored over 12.. I guess that places me in Generation Y! I like your ranking algorithm.
Posted by Brad on 01/15/2009 at 04:49pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
oddly enough, the elderly use the wii the most after the precious 18-25 bracket
Posted by delia on 03/19/2009 at 08:49pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I have my own web page, I IM and text friends, made my brother 2 websites, watch youtube, download music for free of course. Oh boy I'm definitely a Y generation lol. I am going to recommend this test to my friends.
Posted by Jim Annunities on 03/20/2009 at 02:20am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I Scored 21, I Knew I Was In Generation Y
Posted by sCOUT on 04/07/2009 at 04:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Very perceptive post, Penelope. See my blog post titled "Smartphones: Media Use Among the Young and Elderly" on MobileBeyond (http://tinyurl.com/cek5gz).
Posted by Brian Prows on 04/14/2009 at 10:39pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am generation Y, What does that mean? but I am 30, almost 31. That is pretty OLD! :( so bummed
Posted by Bodyboarding on 05/15/2009 at 01:51am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am generation Y, What does that mean? but I am 30, almost 31. That is pretty OLD! :( so bummed
Posted by terkoz on 05/15/2009 at 11:32pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
generations are so vaguely defined that such distincions i find are very demeaning
Posted by Michael on 06/02/2009 at 05:24pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am part of generation y i think. i scored 0-1 point because of this. Do you watch videos on YouTube? (1 point)
I only recently started to watch and i only knew this video website existed 2 years ago.
it means i have 0-1 point – Baby Boomer.
Posted by random on 06/02/2009 at 09:18pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
i dont have a mobile phone, dont know how to make a web page, use im,text people,buy things from the internet, download music for me,blog,actually use myspace or know how,email or text parents, take photos with a phone or share my photos,have facebook,digg or those other sites. going to delete everything.
Posted by random on 06/02/2009 at 09:25pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm here: 6- 12 points – Generation X
Thanks for the test.
Posted by dlbb on 06/11/2009 at 06:20am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I scored like 22. Safe to say I'm Gen Y. I'm happy with that. I like the future our generation is paving. Thanks for the quick test.
Posted by marci on 07/24/2009 at 02:45pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I love the post, but would have to disagree with you on the Wii's: here in South Dakota they are in many senior centers and nursing homes to help keep people active when they have limited mobility. Many of these places even have their own bowling leagues!
Posted by Morgan on 08/04/2009 at 03:48pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"For example, you probably won't find the Wii at a senior center"
Actually many hospitals and rehab centers are using Wii as a way to help older people get back mobility.
Posted by Martha Williams Jordan on 08/10/2009 at 10:46am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think you have some inaccurate information and a number of stereotypes.
I know several nursing homes and rehab centers that use Wii to help rehab residents and help improve their mobility. You also assume that technology is only used by the younger generations. I have to say that my older brother (15 years older than me) actually teaches me how to use the technology and broadens my horizons.
There are also economic issues in what you talk about. I know some teens who financially can't download because of the costs or have phones with cameras and does that make them old just because financially they can't afford to do that?
Posted by Martha Williams Jordan on 08/10/2009 at 12:19pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
14 points & born in 1955.
Maybe we're the new sleeper group.
Generation Z (where all the cultural stigmas breakdown and it's about experience not age; about self-directed learning rather than rote; about labels we aren't satisfied to live inside.
Posted by lorebrarian on 08/12/2009 at 02:38am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I agree with you completely…what a great way to look at this!
Posted by Teri on 09/25/2009 at 03:34pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
B 1969 scored 20 – But I am a computer tech and website developer, which is probably why I score like a Y not an X.
I also really identify with the xers of this post http://ubernoggin.com/archives/336
Posted by Angela on 08/25/2009 at 09:28pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
First – Penelope, I just saw you speak at the ABA Marketing Conference, and you were terrific. When I first saw the description of the session, I though, "Oh no, not more of the same." It was insightful, a great update to "more of the same."
Second, I took the quiz. I'm 51 and scored a 14! Maybe this will up my "coolness" with my 16-year-olds!!
Posted by Sara on 09/17/2009 at 11:35am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I got a 17. I think maybe doing college admissions videos, which require me to interview kids at midnight, listen to fresh music and test my visual storytelling ideas with panels of 17-year-olds has made me think young. Or maybe it's that I'm moving to Seattle and learning how to use SM to get noticed. Whatever the reason, you've proven I'm a boomer who doesn't think, act, or look like one!
Posted by Owen Richard Kindig on 09/17/2009 at 10:18pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Age 53 and I scored 14: generation X, huh!go figure!
Posted by Teri on 09/25/2009 at 03:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Damn it! According to both birthday and this, I'm generation Y. I would be fine with that, if it weren't for the stereotype placed on gen Y. For the record, I'm not a myspacing annoying brat who talks too loud on the phone and with a blatant disregard for everyone else on the planet.
Okay. I'm done.
Posted by Dom on 09/27/2009 at 04:36am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Teri, I think I can top that – only 12 so also Gen X… but then, I am 62! I first used a computer (well, word processor then in, I think about the early 80s. And I remember very well that when I was beginning my MBA, round about 1994, one my lecturers praised an assignment of mine by saying "Ged's assignment is excellent and she's used the Internet for research!" Hey – great new idea!
Photos from your mobile though – yuk! Mind you, I never even learnt to use a box brownie. What's wrong with, um, just seeing and remembering …?
Posted by Ged on 09/27/2009 at 03:30pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am generation X. I guess not sharing phone photos with friends is a big one worth two points. I take photographs but never share them….oh well. I take the photos and keep them for my self.
Posted by Investments on 10/04/2009 at 06:05pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
My score says I'm a Generation Y in a Generation Jones body. Too bad I can't see that when I look in the mirror! Of course other factors help define your "age" — like attitude, entrepreneurial spirit, religion, etc. You could find a 20 year old Amish kid who scores 0 on this quiz.
Posted by David on 10/05/2009 at 01:26pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm generation X. (Whatever that is.) and I'm 55. Your age should stop you from enjoying whatever you like and whatever is useful…
Posted by pj on 10/07/2009 at 06:22pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
oops should be shouldn't, not should.
Posted by pj on 10/07/2009 at 06:23pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I scored 12points. Again I'm either X or Y. I share photos from my cell with my family more likely than friends puit I put yes for those questions. is this helps. You know what would help: If you put Generation Z questions and I bet I could get points off of those.
Posted by Angelo on 10/12/2009 at 09:05pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I took the test again and scored 13. So I'm GenY this time. My first score was 12 x/y. My favorite music is the 1980's heavy metal.
Posted by Angelo on 10/12/2009 at 09:11pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
what a fantastic post and what an interesting test! i was surprised to find out that i am a Generation Y person! i loved your text, comments and think you make a lot of sense!
thanks!!
Posted by eliane on 10/22/2009 at 01:04pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
lol!
born 1965, scored 19!! lol! Good job, thanks for posting the test!
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Posted by Nancy on 11/30/2009 at 06:23pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Often we forget the little guy, the SMB, in our discussions of the comings and goings of the Internet marketing industry. Sure there are times like this when a report surfaces talking about their issues and concerns but, for the most part, we like to talk about big brands and how they do the Internet marketing thing well or not so well.
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Posted by Charles brooks on 12/17/2009 at 10:51pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Generation Jones and am 17
Posted by dylan on 01/16/2010 at 05:23pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Generation Jones and am 17 i got five becose i only downloud music and use youtube or as i call it narristtub oh and a use narristbook as well
Posted by dylan on 01/16/2010 at 05:27pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I scored 16, and I'm apparently a Gen Y'er now.
After all that Gen X (born 1975) pride I expended for years. Damn.
Posted by Hossein on 01/17/2010 at 03:03pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I believe this test was ok on media perspective and opened my eyes on how much I use it.
Do I believe I fit in Generation Y? No.
But what I do find sad is how Generation Y is described, is what I see everywhere in the college hallways. Where once the hallways were a place to ahng out and be social….now everybody hangs by themselves and stares at a cellphone screen.
Not to mention that our females have lost sight of what made us WO-men. We seemed to have lost our little game of chase, and just give men freely what they want, and watch them leave us without a care.
Because of this, Generation Z is suffering, and you can clearly see it, with the drugs rampant in high school, 1'st grade students cussing out teachers, and 9 yr old girls getting pregnant.
America is turning quickly into a mud-hole, but you can escape it at least, for yourself.
How?
Choose Jesus.
Posted by Shardonnae on 01/20/2010 at 06:08pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I got 11 points and always believed that I fit in more with gen-x people, not generation y. I think the article is right; it shouldn't be about what year you were born but how your personality/behavior is with society.
Posted by jessie on 01/24/2010 at 08:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
edit: Oh, and I'm 22.
Posted by jessie on 01/24/2010 at 08:32pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am labeled Gen X due to my birth year, but scored Gen Y. This quiz brings up an interesting discussion. I am presenting the topic in a class and will be educating on teaching strategies for each generation. After taking the quiz, I know I should specify that it is also important to know that just because you were born in the year of your generation cohort, some students may very well be in another cohort. Can I use this quiz in my class?
Posted by Patricia on 02/02/2010 at 09:33am | permalink | Reply to this comment
You will find WIIs at the senior centers in Madison, WI, thanks to Madison Community Foundation.
Posted by Robin on 02/14/2010 at 12:19pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
There is more to what generation you are a part of than how much technology you use. I think it has alot to do with your personality and the way people see the world.
Regards.
Posted by Free MLM Training on 03/01/2010 at 04:52pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
My Score: 17
so I'm generation Y. well, I'm multi-generational. I remember being part of generation X when listened to Nirvana :)
Posted by Games on 03/02/2010 at 09:02am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Well, the one problem with this is that anyone who WORKS in any kind of "new media" will skew towards gen Y here. I'm a software developer by day and so are many of my friends. We all scored Gen Y-ish on this scale, even though our birthdays range from the 60's to the 80's. I got 20 points and I was born in '72.
Posted by Lisha Sterling on 03/04/2010 at 06:35pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
This list is way too biased towards contemporary media functions typical of "generation y". It fails to take into account how many people actually depend on this, aside from "Gen Y'ers" (1982-2001) and that many people typically part of Generation X and the Baby Boom generation may be dependent on these too. After all, computer technology was developed originally by these two generations roughly speaking, and were first used by them. It wouldn't be unreasonable to assume Baby Boomers and Gen X'ers got used to this technology
Posted by Hossein on 03/16/2010 at 02:56am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Ha-
I was born in 1982, yet according to this test I'm a member of "Generation Jones" This test is too social network oriented to be worth anything.
As an aside, I think that 1982 is more Gen-X than "Millenial." IMO, anyone who can remember the Challenger explosion is too old to be considered a Millenial.
Posted by Dan on 03/18/2010 at 02:16pm | permalink | Reply to this comment