People at work are asking me why I am not working as many hours as I used to. I am. But I am working on anger management. Here are seven tips I've tried using:
1. Face the problem and make it a priority.
I used to think anger management problem is a thing for men who are in prison for setting their wives on fire. Now I see it’s a problem for people who think they will get fired for being unpleasant. Or for people who think their kids will grow up and hate them for being emotionally unpredictable.
I am both those people.
2. Focus on your trigger points.
The time I most consistently lose my temper is trying to get the kids out of the house in the morning. So I told myself to not lose my temper.
That didn’t work.
So I have been waking up at 5:30 because I need to give myself two hours to be completely organized and calm so that I can get the kids and myself out the door for school and work at 7:30 without screaming at the kids for not eating fast enough because I changed my clothes for work three times and got behind and forgot to make lunches.
I thought of having the nanny come in the morning to help me. But I hate feeling like I’m married to the nanny, and I hate feeling like I can’t do normal parenting things on my own. The mornings with the kids seem theoretically intimate, and making school lunches seems like a rite of passage for moms with school-aged kids. I want all that.
3. Use deep breathing to regulate stress.
I have been doing Ashtanga yoga for ten years. I thought I was amazing at yoga, but now I see that the point of yoga, calming, centering, whatever, is lost on someone who is focusing on the routine of fifty push-ups and five headstands. Now the breathing resonates with me, when I do it at 5:30 am as a desperate attempt to keep myself calm long enough to get to work.
3. Have a regular sleep schedule to improve your ability to self-regulate.
I pack the school lunches the night before. And I pick out my clothes the night before. The guys I work with think I don’t ever change my clothes. This is sometimes true. Especially when I’m depressed. But a lot of times I change my clothes but all my clothes look the same so I don’t even get credit for having thought about it the night before.
To get up at 5:30 am with a good night’s sleep I have to go to bed at 9:30pm which means I have to get the kids to bed by 8pm so I can have an hour to do lunches and clothes and washing my face, which, if you are my age, takes ten minutes because of all the cream stuff I use.
I do not explain this when a co-worker asks why I don’t have twenty minutes to fix home page copy at 8:30 pm.
4. Accept that every day includes unpredictability, and that’s okay.
So it’s a regular day where I am insanely regimented in a desperate effort to not be angry but at 7am I realize that I forgot to pack to go to the farmer’s house. I also realize that it’s freezing outside, and I didn’t put the car in the garage and it’s going to take ten minutes of warming up the car so I can scrape the ice.
Then my seven-year-old can’t find socks without holes in them.
I change my clothes so I can scrape the ice and I yell from my bedroom that he should look in his brother’s drawer for socks.
He yells back up that he wants me to sew the socks so that we are not wasting. “It’s recycling,” he yells.
5. Understand the true source of your frustration.
Then the boys have a fist-fight about who is wearing whose socks. I do not catch them until there’s a cheek scrape which upsets me because now my four-year-old will go to school looking like he lives in a boxing ring.
I have prepared myself for a moment like this: I identify that I am not upset with my sons but upset with what the world thinks of me as a parent. I tell myself I am good at self-regulation and I do not take this frustration out on my children.
I say, “Put on nice socks and let’s have breakfast.” I want to tell you I used a calm voice, but I worry I used a psycho, calm-before-the-storm voice.
6. Understand the impact food has on your moods.
I make waffles. I watch the kids eat squishy, warm, covered-in-syrup waffles. I watch them wash down the drippy syrup with marsh-mallowed hot chocolate. I am convinced that when I eat sugar and bread it makes me crazy–that I just want more and then cannot think of anything else. (There is such interesting research on this. Click here: A study about how civilization is based on the opiate effect of grains on humans.) It takes every bit of self-discipline in my body not to steal scraps of waffle from the four-year-old’s plate. I need to remember to not give him so much. I need him to feel more protective of his portion.
7. Use solutions-based language in tense conversations.
I want so much to be remembered as a dream mom that I put their mittens and coats over the heater so they are warm after breakfast.
The kids don't notice warmness because they are punching each other, furtively, like I’m not going to see them if it’s under their jackets.
As we walk out the door, my seven-year-old starts crying: the snow pants in his backpack are wrong.
I tell him those are to keep at school. I tell him I am streamlining our morning by keeping snow pants at school so we don’t have to bring them back and forth.
He does not like his other pair. He is crying. I decide I am going to take a firm line because really, it’s school that makes him nervous and he finds something to cry about every morning and I have to put a stop to this.
I tell him I already made a decision about the pants. I tell him I am the mom and I already made a decision. This is good. Kids feel secure when they have boundaries and authority.
He screams.
I pound the refrigerator with my fist.
I scream, “Shut the fuck up with the crying.”
I scream, “If you don’t quit crying every fucking single morning I’m never taking you to school again.”
That’s how it is. Nearly 24 hours of preparation to get through a morning without me yelling, and still, I break thirty rules of anger management in thirty seconds.
My four-year-old says, “Mommy, you’re hurting me.” And he covers his ears.
8. Slow down a tough situation so you make good decisions.
I take a time-out for myself in the living room. I say a prayer to the god of anger, if there is one: please let me always pound the refrigerator and not my kids.
I take them to school. I kiss them too much when I say goodbye. I tell them I love them like my life depends on it, while other moms, who clearly do not worry about yelling and maybe don’t even worry about waffles, casually do drop-off and drive off to the gym.
Then I go to work, and everyone is laughing and joking about Pee Wee Herman’s new show, and I yell, “Arrrggh! Can everyone please shut up for twenty minutes so I can finish my post? I can’t think with all the banter.”
Ryan Paugh tells me that it’s not that I can’t work with talking. I work with talking all the time. He says, “It’s self-loathing. Take some responsibility.”
I want to tell him to fuck off. But I need a quiet place to write this post, so I go to his office, and sit on the floor, and I hope he doesn’t talk to me, because it’s 8:30 am and already I am not having a good anger management day.









This is how I fear my parenting efforts are going to go when I have children. I am a person who loves reason, and children are basically people who are completely unreasonable and do not respond to logic. How could I possibly handle a person who does not see the sense in my snow pants decisions (or how meaningless the snow pants you wear are)? I have no idea.
I have a theory that a good mental health worker is a good parent, because they are used to dealing with crazy people all day. I feel like that gives them unreasonable-person coping skills that I do not have.
Posted by Jill on 01/08/2010 at 10:46am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thank you Jill for your comment. I am 32 with 4 darling children who are sometimes not so darling which brings out my anger issues. I worry that when they are older they may remember some of that, but honestly it's not ok but the anger is only 10% of the time…I am so happy to hear you say you love your mom still. I tell my kids, I am not perfect and I am working on yellling less, but I will take away privileages that do hurt! My husband is a saint who does not yell and can't understand why I do, this has helped me reduce the screaming quite a bit.
Thanks P for your honesty, I really did think I was the only educated mother who screamed until small kids cried! Now I know there are two of us: )
Posted by Mrs. Not-Perfect on 01/08/2010 at 11:48am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hey Jill,
Actually . . . there are three of us. See you in mommy hell. ;^)
Posted by Alex on 2010-01-08 21:09:41 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
and you can add one dad to that list as well….
Posted by scot phelps on 2010-01-09 06:49:47 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
Well, I personally think that we don't have to be a good mental health worker to become a good parent. Who ever we are, want kind of job we have, we all can be a good parent. Based on my experience and from what I see from my friends who already become parents, it's all about how to deal and manage our problem that we face everyday, whether at work, at home, or any other personal problem. The way we deal with our problem is determine whether or not we will have the skills to educate our children with reasonable way.
Posted by JoeFrisbee on 01/21/2010 at 11:25pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
When I was growing up my mom used to yell and scream at us all the time…and occasionally spank us (deservedly I think). Periodically though she would do things like send flowers to my school (for telling me to shut up during the car ride in), pick us up a little early to go out to a movie, and once in a while we would have a game night. Every Friday we would get Slurpee's at 7-11 and almost every Sunday was a family dinner. Those are the things I remember (I'm 25 now), because I realize that those small unexpected acts were her way of apologizing. I don't feel any resentment or anger or anything other than love and pride that she is my mom…even if she does have an anger management problem that sounds about parallel to yours.
I bet your are an amazing mom…more amazing than you think.
Posted by Gwen on 01/08/2010 at 10:55am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Gwen and Penelope thank you! It is so helpful to hear how are other moms are; i have struggled so long (my kids are 12 and 10) to stop feeling SO guilty that it paralyzes me as a parent. I am hopeful that my kids will have some good memories of me, the way you do, Gwen, to counteract all the "others."
Posted by D on 01/10/2010 at 09:49am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I had a morning like that today. Despite waking up early, etc., we ending up being as late for school as we are every day. Couldn't find keys, was plowed in, still got stuck in snowpile (because I backed out angrily instead of carefully). My 7YO got to see me roar and hurl my shovel across the front lawn like the Incredible Hulk in a gray puffy jacket. When I finally got in the car and started driving away, she said "Is today Friday the 13th?" I said no. She said, "Maybe you should think of it that way." That made me smile, and fortunately the day got back on track after that.
Posted by MS on 01/08/2010 at 11:06am | permalink | Reply to this comment
A cheap & easy solution to the lost keys problem: find a visible place to hang your keys. My eyes flit to that spot (a magnetic hook on the fridge) almost every time I go by. Often, the keys aren't there. That's my clue to find them, right away. Doesn't prevent me from hunting for keys, but it means that I'm looking for them at a time when I'm not already late for wherever I had to go.
Posted by Erica on 01/08/2010 at 02:27pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Try checklists. They work for surgeons, and they work for kids. They really help us in the morning (4 year old and 1 1/2 year olds to get out the door). For you and for both kids. If the 4 year old isn't reading then make pictures for things like "go potty" "put on shirt" etcetera. My 4 year old loves this — she looks at it to figure out what to do. Including when she goes to the potty — she has a checklist that includes "wipe" and "flush" and she's really proud when she finishes the list. Have a night before checklist for yourself "pick out clothes" and "help child X pick out clothes" and "pack lunch" and "put snowsuit in backpack" or whatever, and a morning checklist with things like "check baby's diaper" (at least you don't need to do that one anymore) and "put ice pack in lunchbox" and "put on mittens". Knowing it is all written down not only helps all of you not forget things like having clean socks or homework or lunch, but it takes a lot of the stress off because you don't have to worry about what else you need to remember to do. And less stress = Mommy is calmer = everyone is calmer, at least in my house! Good luck, and hope this helps.
Posted by Laura on 01/08/2010 at 11:07am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Love this idea. I'm going to try it with my kids. I have one question. Is it any easier to get kids to use checklists than surgeons? http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122226184
Posted by Jeromy Timmer on 01/08/2010 at 11:36am | permalink | Reply to this comment
They work for the rest of us, too–I have to run through a list the night before in order to get out the door in the morning.
No, I don't have kids, but I commute by bus, which means that if I'm two minutes late, I'm actually 15 minutes late. And more recently, we adopted a dog, who I walk in the morning–which is a task with its own list (leash, bag, flashlight, keys, jacket)–and then feed.
Oh, and we're about to have our first child. So I figure my existing list habit may help me there as well. It won't make me perfect (who is?), but at least it's a foundation.
Posted by KateNonymous on 01/10/2010 at 05:25pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am laughing and trying not to roll on the floor. Not because I find it funny (well, I do) but…because I have been/am there on a regular basis. Trying to do everything right…make slack…make allowances…and sometimes it Still. Does. Not. Work.
Let the self loathing/feelings of failure wash over you, and let it go. Rinse/lather/repeat as necessary. Yes, your kids will need therapy, just as you and I did/do.
We as humans are rotten at seeing who we really are. (insert appropriate google therapy reference here) I'm probably a pretty damn good dad. And I'm sure you're a very good mom.
You can't be perfect. You can be honest. And frankly, I think the latter is the more valuable.
Keep trying.
cheers!
-adb
Posted by aaron on 01/08/2010 at 11:07am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Jill, I have heard the opposite about mental health workers and other kinds of care providers like nurses and teachers. They get drained nurturing others in their work. At home with family is when your auto-pilot kicks in, and if you didn't have a balanced childhood or have somehow gotten the tools to override your programming, you will do whatever comes naturally to you.
It's maddening, but the stuff you grew up hating in your parents starts to happen, like my mom screaming at us all of the time. I got myself to stop that with my kids, eventually, but not before some therapeutic intervention.
P, you have discussed abuse in your childhood. What type of help/therapy/parenting class is there for the formerly abused who don't want to pass it on?
Posted by Jeanette on 01/08/2010 at 11:09am | permalink | Reply to this comment
PS I love your blog and look forward to every post!
Posted by Laura on 01/08/2010 at 11:10am | permalink | Reply to this comment
"I identify that I am not upset with my sons but upset with what the world thinks of me as a parent."
Extremely good insight. You're also worried about what YOU think of you as a parent. Hang in there. Keep trying. You're doing better than your parents did, by a long shot.
Posted by Tzipporah on 01/08/2010 at 11:13am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am sure I was yelled at when I was a kid, but only one time in particular really made a huge impact. My mom and dad were in the process of getting divorced, which means I was about four. She yelled at me for something unreasonable and stupid, and sent me sobbing to my room.
Later that night, my mom apologized to me, and told me that she wasn't mad at me for what I did, she was upset with other things and it just came out as yelling at me. That apology as a very fundamental moment in my childhood. I learned moms could be human and make mistakes. And, more importantly, I learned that when you make a mistake, being up front about it and genuinely apologizing is the best way to deal with it.
Don't underestimate your children's ability to understand that you are human, you make mistakes, and that you are doing your best. Kids usually respond pretty well to respect and honesty, and from everything you've written, your boys sound like resilient little dudes. As far as I'm concerned, my mom was a dream mom, but it definitely wasn't because she was always perfect.
Posted by Jess @ Openly Balanced on 01/08/2010 at 07:16pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Ditto to everything you said. Except that I pick out a week's worth of clothes for work on Sunday evenings and I have my husband do mornings so I can get to work early. So I can leave early to pick up the kids. My boss gave me a goal last quarter to de-stress. But it also demotivated me. I started working from home and doing yoga and trying not to yell at my kids (especially my son who sounds a lot like your older one). If I were to add a suggestion, it would be to repeat a mantra – but that's in the same vein as yoga and focusing on your trigger points. Well done! I'll come back to this post often.
Posted by Julie on 01/08/2010 at 11:16am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, you are shooting yourself in the angry foot. Why waffles? Cereal is OK. Why no nanny? Help is OK. I understand what you are going for but it doesn't exist. The happy mother packing lunches and making breakfast and not losing her temper doesn't exist. We all lost our temper on occasion.
But we didn't all yell and curse so much we scared our 4 year olds. That's why you feel bad. You aim to high and fall too far. You need an in-between, god I suck, oh well, it's the best I can do and they will live kind of a mode.
I think you don't have that because you didn't get it. I imagine that the abuse you suffered made you have to invent paradise and try, somehow, with icons like waffles, to build it in the mornings. Motherhood paradise doesn't come when bidden. Focus first of all on having a morning without using the word, "Fuck." Then add waffles and extra snow pants once you get the No Fuck part right.
Posted by LPC on 01/08/2010 at 11:20am | permalink | Reply to this comment
The No Fuck advice made me laugh, and it's also excellent advice.
Posted by Jill on 01/08/2010 at 11:41am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Yeah. I like this too. Also, it seems maybe more do-able to curb the language first and the yelling after I've mastered that.
And, side benefit to me managing my language better: Using the word fucking as a modifier to a noun sounds ten thousand times worse when it's a four-year-old saying it in public. Believe me.
Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on 2010-01-08 12:17:35 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
This is good advice. You don't need to make it harder on yourself. Also, if sugar makes your moods crazy, it almost certainly does the same things to your kids. Save waffles as a weekend treat and give them an easier – and healthier – breakfast on the weekdays.
Posted by Caitlin @ Roaming Tales on 01/09/2010 at 12:59am | permalink | Reply to this comment
LPC I could not agree with you more. I am certain my son was happy with a simple bagel and fruit breakfast over the years and not having his Mom melt down to the point that gutter language was part of breakfast. Penelope needs anger management help and she is delusional if she thinks her kids are not afraid of her. Hell, she scares me.
Posted by claire on 01/09/2010 at 11:40am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Right on. Even now when my OH yells in frustration, I cringe inside, anticipating the worst. Not that I have anything to fear from him, but it's a learned response from my father. I think kids are far more damaged by physical abuse than the odd bit of yelling, obviously, but if your 4-year-old is crying, time to stop and think. I think it was Jill who advised some counselling – if only to unlearn the past and move on.
Posted by Clare on 2010-01-12 15:59:06 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
Great post and really great techniques. It's also important to remember anger management is an iterative and incremental process and even though it may seem like you've broken all the rules as long as you continue to make progress you'll ultimately get where you want to be.
Further, anger is a necessary and unavoidable emotion so please don't waste any time trying to squash it. Thanks for the post!
Posted by Chris on 01/08/2010 at 11:20am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I find myself to be emotionally predictable with my sons when the stress rises. Predictably, I'm short-tempered! I am determined to reduce my stress, and better manage what stress I must keep. Part of my problem is that I tend to get hyperbusy, and it just doesn't leave any time for me to get centered and calm again. Centered and calm is the place I want to be more often when I'm with my sons.
Posted by jim on 01/08/2010 at 11:21am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Anger is a tough one. If you don't attack and change the true underlying cause (whether it ends up being what you identified in your post or not) you'll be forced to monitor yourself consciously all the time to keep your anger in check, and then of course it will break through at times. Your conscious mind and attention have better things to do than continually monitor your emotional state and keep the bad parts in check. Perhaps you might find some of the ideas in this post helpful: http://www.happinessinthisworld.com/2009/10/04/how-to-manage-anger/
Posted by Alex @ Happiness in this World on 01/08/2010 at 11:24am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thanks for the link, Alex. I particularly like the part in the post about people who use anger as a way to deal with the fear of not being able to control things. That really speaks to me.
I knew I would learn a lot about anger if I started talking about it here. Thanks.
Penelope
Posted by Penelope Trunk on 01/08/2010 at 11:40am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This is exactly what I have found to work as well. I get up at 5:30 so I can have at least an hour and half to myself. On good days, I can get my hubby to do the whole morning routine so I can get to the gym and then on the road to work by 7:45am. Then I leave early to get the kids. It is the motivating factor to get up by not having the morning routine. I was victim to the screaming mornings and not allowing my kids to have their agenda. It was all about me getting out to work and them to school. Now I pack and prepare everything the night before. My four year old sometimes sleeps in her clothes for the next day and my seven year old now makes them both Eggo waffles. Joy.
Posted by Shelley on 01/08/2010 at 11:27am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think everybody has a breaking point. It's very human. Your kids will grow up and remember that you made mistakes and were human, but that you also loved them very much.
Posted by Lindsay on 01/08/2010 at 11:28am | permalink | Reply to this comment
But from what she describes she didn't have a "breaking point", she does this all the time. That's not the same thing. Frequency matters.
I have to echo the thoughts here – simplify and de-sugar the breakfast. Waffles with syrup and hot cocoa with marshmellows, no wonder the kid cries every morning, he's probably in diabetic shock or something. Geez.
Sometimes kids cry and act up in the mornings to get attention and it can be curtailed by giving them some attention (BEFORE they throw a fit.) I make it a point to spend 5 minutes with each child in the mornings just talking, hugging and goofing around. They will be away from you for hours and hours and it helps to really connect. Who has an extra ten mintues every day just to sit around in our nightclothes and do nothing? This mom, because it magically stops morning tantrums. Playing and snuggling = ten minutes Huge tantrum = 20-30 minutes. Do the math.
Real grown ups don't use the F word in front of children. Seriously. I have learned to cuss like an old guy. Dag nabbit, son of a gun, heck and damnation! Trust me, you can clean up your mouth and if you don't think that will make others respect you (Others meaning co-workers, friend, your kids) then you are wrong.
Posted by Me on 01/11/2010 at 10:29am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Agreed on the F-word thing. It might come out once in a great while (like once a year, at tax time) but if it's a common occurrence, something needs to change. Use something funny instead, like "flying orange monkey" or something.
Posted by Christopher Mahan on 2010-01-12 04:45:14 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
Thank you for this. I don't have kids, but it's nice to know that others have similiar anger/stress/frustration and to see how they deal with it (sometimes well, sometimes not), and the thought process behind it. I think your readers like you because you are honest. Brutally honest, to a fault sometimes (Aspergers) but we appreciate it because you say the things everyone else is afraid to.
Posted by H to the Izzo on 01/08/2010 at 11:39am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm a yeller. I work on not being a yeller every single day. Sometimes I whisper and that surely gets the kids' attention. It's like the quiet person in the meeting, everyone has to lean into hear. But me? My natural speaking voice carries and that makes it easy for people to look like they're not listening.
Posted by Catherine on 01/08/2010 at 11:40am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I love watching someone struggle with the same issues that i have (sans children). Just one thought try not to expect any gratitude from your kids. Remember that they won't notice the little things that they do for you. Infants don't say thank you rocking me all night because I was colicky. Kids don't thank you for waffles and warmed coats. When they're teenagers they won't thank you for driving them places and buying them clothes. This is all to say that it probably mostly means that you're doing it consistently and when the love is consistent, it goes unnoticed. . . which is a good thing and what "good" moms are supposed to do. . . right?
Posted by M on 01/08/2010 at 11:41am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think you are being way too hard on yourself. It was you who reminded me that working mother's can't be everything to everyone. On top of it your child has Aspberger's and is always going to have problems transitioning from one activity to the next. Let the Nanny help you in the morning. Your Children will remember the quality time with you. If you are stressed trying to be the perfect mom, it's not quality time.
Posted by Jennifer on 01/08/2010 at 11:43am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I know this is easy to say – sort of like "to lose weight, just eat less" – but anyway: My mantra (+1 to the person who suggested that) is that in the grand scheme of things, none of this is important. If they go to school in socks with holes in them, or their shirt and pants don't match, or the lunch they packed themselves is two fruits and two snacks and no sandwich, so what? The world will not stop turning. And +5 to @LPC – forget the waffles. I'm quite certain your kids would rather eat cereal than be yelled at.
Posted by Joe on 01/08/2010 at 11:51am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thx Penelope. Again appreciate your honesty. You are WAY further along than I am…
I'm still on #2 ID'ing Trigger Points. In my case, it's getting the 2-yr-old out the door CALMLY and without him laying on the floor screaming. Sigh. Yoga DOES help. Ommm…
Posted by Angie Zerbe Shertzer on 01/08/2010 at 11:51am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I could have written this paragraph myself: "To get up at 5:30 am with a good night’s sleep I have to go to bed at 9:30pm which means I have to get the kids to bed by 8pm so I can have an hour to do lunches and clothes and washing my face, which, if you are my age, takes ten minutes because of all the cream stuff I use."
I kind of think every working parent (I won't say working mother, but whichever one is responsible for getting the kids out the door and getting to work in the morning) can relate. But more than anger management, I think it's time management you need. And a little less perfectionism. And maybe a couple of mornings a week have the nanny come over.
Posted by JB on 01/08/2010 at 11:54am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I try very, very hard not to get caught up in power struggles over things like the wrong snow pants. It's so easy to lose yourself in the "I'm the mom, I get to make the decisions" frame of mind.
But, much as I try, I'm just as guilty of it as you–and then I realize that the argument over it is taking more time than it would have just to have given in.
I've found two books effective for my relationship w/ my almost 7-yr old: "Kids, Parents and Power Struggles," and "Setting Limits with your strong willed child."
And oh boy, I wish I could get myself to get up at 5:30 every morning…
Posted by Nate on 01/08/2010 at 12:02pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm going to second Nate's book recommendation–in fact, I actually left my RSS reader and came to the blog and comments, just so I could leave the same recommendation for Kids, Parents, and Power Struggles. The author is Mary Sheedy Kurchinka, and even if you hate the idea of parenting books, it can change your life. And make it much much easier, really.
Kids do need structure and discipline, but they also need to feel heard. As adults, we sometimes feel like you can only be heard if action follows–like, if I say I hate my snowpants, I'm also asking you to fix that somehow. But kids truly respond to a much simpler approach–saying "You hate those snowpants. It would be nice if you had another pair." And then just drop it. You don't need to fix his problem–and you don't need to fix his feelings. When you try, it's natural for you to get frustrated and angry, because it's an impossible job. When instead you can let him be responsible for his own emotions, you will get less angry and not screaming will be much easier.
Truly read the book. It's very logical; I think you'll love it. For perspective, I was the kind of mom who struggled not to yell, "If you don't stop crying, I'm going to give you something to cry about" to a ten-month old baby. Now I'm the kind of mom…well, my 14-year old could probably list every time I've gotten mad enough to yell at him in the past decade because it's happened so rarely. And I absolutely attribute that to Kids, Parents, and Power Struggles.
Posted by Wendy on 01/08/2010 at 12:55pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
What Jennifer said. Get the nanny in for mornings. Think of it as offering you the chance for one on one time with one kid while she preps the other one. You could alternate or something.
Play to your parenting strengths – you've probably the best mom ever for helping your kids think things through and analyze problems. You'll never take anything for granted because you had to figure it out, and you can help them do it. Then get help with your weaknesses, like mornings.
Also, my son eats breakfast in the car on the way to school because waiting for a three year old to finish eating every morning while simultaneously worrying we'd be late was making me crazy(er).
Posted by Alanna on 01/08/2010 at 12:02pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I had a really good counselor tell me that anger is the first layer of feelings, but below that is hurt and sadness. Since I came from a family that the only feeling that was “okay” was anger, I gravitate to this at the detriment of my wife and children. You couldn’t cry or be sad about things, but you could get mad as hell… So, I have found that if I am angry, I focus on what I am hurt or sad about, deal with this issue, and I am okay. I’m slowly learning to skip anger and deal with my “real” feelings. Ideally, anger really never helps the situation anyway. It has its place, but can be a manipulative technique that never really deals with the root cause.
Posted by Chris Murphy on 01/08/2010 at 12:08pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow, that's really important wisdom that I will be thinking about for a long time. Thank you!
Posted by lisa on 01/09/2010 at 08:44am | permalink | Reply to this comment
damn–our family lives sound so similar! and your observation is spot-on: i've had lovers and co-workers who ask, on occasion, "why are you angry?" and when I'd say, "I'm not angry, i'm just disappointed, sad, or what have you…" because i honestly was. thanks so much for acknowledging this!
Posted by thatgirlinnewyork on 01/09/2010 at 06:23pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Chris, I had that same conversation with my therapist, and it was life changing. Thanks for posting it. Good to hear it again…
Posted by Hope on 01/10/2010 at 06:58pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
More than just taking time-outs or deep breathing, meditation gives you this space between you and the things that are happening (even your own emotional things) that allows you to choose your responses instead of just reacting. Meditation like that is hard work, though, and not everyone can do it.
Posted by Sheryl on 01/08/2010 at 12:12pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow – there is so much to say here – first off the easy stuff, rethink the whole sugar waffle plus marshmallow hot cocoa thing – your poor kids' teachers hate you for filling them with sugar and sending them to school. Now down off my soap box on junk food. I hate mornings – when my husband travels I struggle to get through the morning routine sane. As you are divorced, I don't understand the guilt about the nanny. I think the whole utopia intimate morning thing is clearly not happening for you and your kids.
Posted by Sara on 01/08/2010 at 12:18pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
word on the sugar! it's short-term energy that doesn't help kids (or adults) manage their brain capacity, concentration, and emotions.
the link to the evolution of grain and dairy use is extremely telling, P! when i was diagnosed with celiac, i started to find small references to that in spades, but g-d forbid we should question the value/power of this well-subsidized u.s. industry! when i learned how to make better grain choices, i found my energy (and digestion) far more easy to manage. that has been invaluable in helping me level out those emotional highs and lows–an excellent point in managing anger, i assure you!
Posted by thatgirlinnewyork on 01/09/2010 at 06:29pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Oh, and FYI, my son has gone to the car naked more than once, as a compromise between not wanting to get dressed and needing to get out the door on time.
(Of course he always chooses to get his clothes on in the car before he gets out at preschool, since it's that or stand naked on their stoop until he decides to get dressed. Natural consequences, baby.)
Posted by Tzipporah on 01/08/2010 at 12:18pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
YES. Absolutely. I tell my children we are getting into the car at 7 AM. period. If this means they get into the car dressed, happy, with shoes and nap blankets, great. If this means they are tucked under my arm while they cry with no shoes or pants on, and no favorite nap blanket then so be it. It only takes a few times to show you mean business. My kids will hustle because they know I am not kidding.
Posted by Me on 01/11/2010 at 10:37am | permalink | Reply to this comment
After your post a couple of days ago I got really into reading Pioneer Woman's blog. 1) I love her life. I want it, and I don't blame you for wanting her blog. 2)In one of her Ask the Pioneer Woman sections someone asked her how she does it all. And she replied that she doesn't. She has loose ends all the time. Sometimes things don't get done, but that's OK.
I'm not sure this will really help with your anger issues, but it might help with your expectations of yourself. Just a little reminder that not even the perfect people are perfect people. (They just know how to use photoshop.)
Posted by @leahalmeling on 01/08/2010 at 12:21pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm only 21 but my impatience/anger issues are some of of the top reasons that I'm terrified of ever having kids.
Posted by Katya on 01/08/2010 at 12:37pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
*of the top reasons why
Posted by Katya on 01/08/2010 at 12:37pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
You are a very disciplined person, but you will never be perfect. Forgive yourself. None of us have been perfect parents, no matter how hard we tried. And don't feel like you've failed if you ask the nanny to come in early to help. You've worked hard enough to have the means to hire a nanny….ENJOY IT!!!!
Posted by Jeannie on 01/08/2010 at 12:41pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I LOVE this post! Well, actually I love the comments. I'm glad you are talking about your anger and taking the time to learn more about anger management.
Your posts are always entertaining, but what really gets me thinking is the comments from the loyal readers. They can see the patterns in your life, and many times I am able to apply the advice given to you to my own life.
So, thanks Penelope for starting the discussion and thank you readers for engaging.
Posted by Froggylou2 on 01/08/2010 at 12:44pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm going to "third" the recommendation for Kids, Parents, and Power Struggles. Because checklists don't solve everything. :) Really, it's an excellent book.
Posted by Laura on 01/08/2010 at 01:09pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
OH MY GOD this is way funnier than you can imagine.
And sad.
Those of us w/ these issues are haunted every day of our lives w/ the psycho voices we've used with our kids. We forget that someone probably used psycho voices with us and that to fully evolve we must understand that it stops w/ us. One way to do that is to forgive. Them and ourselves. But it's hard. Very, very hard.
It's hard not to view kids as obstacles when we're frustrated. It's hard not to take our frustrations out on them. Remember that saying abt how it takes a village to raise a child? Well, I saw one that said it takes a child to raze a village. That's the truth of the matter.
Here's something to explore: How do you feel abt those moms who blissfully drop their kids off and head to the gym? Who then blissfully go out to lunch w/ their girlfriends and then go shopping returning just in time to pick up the kids and run them to wherever it is they must go before returning home w/ their worked-out bodies and their store tissue-wrapped packages and the take-out food they retrieved because they had their nails done at 2 and don't want the red to scratch? Who feel ABSOLUTELY NO RESPONSIBILITY to add to the finances of their family for whatever reason. Would you like to be one of these women? Why? Why not? COULD you be one of these women? Why? Why not?
Be gentler w/ yourself. You're accomplishing herculean tasks few women ever think of attempting. Others are watching and applauding you. Some are hoping you'll fail. Don't. You're stronger than that. Find your way and be true to that.
Posted by Maureen Sharib on 01/08/2010 at 01:09pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, cut yourself some slack. You have Asperger's and a lot of that anger is the frustration of things not going as planned in your head. You have to give yourself permission to get the help in order to deal with your kids compassionately and effectively. So get the nanny in the morning. Setup expectations for the kids. Also, what's so wrong about teaching the kids to make their own lunches the night before, set aside their clothes so they don't have a mental meltdown because of the wrong pants, etc? It might prove to be a bonding experience. Aspie kids tend to like structure and routine, so this might be the way to go.
Posted by Laurinha on 01/08/2010 at 01:17pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
good ideas all! my mother taught us very early how to make breakfast for ourselves. i believe it was the only way she could manage four children in the morning rush–it took nothing to make a piece of toast, or grab some fruit, building to more ambitious things like oatmeal (but instant works for the little ones!).
Posted by thatgirlinnewyork on 01/09/2010 at 06:34pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Your post was the story of my childhood! There were 10 kids in my family. All of us were honor students, well-organized, helped the younger ones, and woke up on time — but despite our preparations the night before, every morning brought the insane rush to get a dozen people ready to face their days.
We look back and joke about how both of our parents would be screaming & cursing every morning, how someone would always be crying or on the verge of it, and about how we only ate breakfast on the weekends b/c those were the days before pop tarts and eggos and really, who could digest anything amidst the morning maelstrom? Plus if we ate, we'd then have to use the bathroom again–and we only had 2 bathrooms. So we'd end up missing the bus, causing my mom to be late for work b/c she'd have to drive us. THAT was always fun.
We all went to college and turned out pretty happy, so I don't think the the morning screaming had any lasting effects. There was occasional fridge punching in our house too, although our parents never hit us. But the fear that someone MIGHT get hit still haunts a bunch of us. So please please do whatever you can to put an end to that behavior before it gets even more out of hand.
The detailed checklists are a great idea. Effective list-making is a valuable skill that your kids can use their whole lives. Unlike many single moms, you have the financial ability to have a nanny to help, so try it out for a few weeks. It doesn't mean you are an inadequate mother–it's about working smart and doing what you can so that your kids can start their days Fuck free! If you don't mind people eating in your car, feed the kids during the drive to school. It'll keep their mouths busy during the ride. BONUS!
Posted by BFish on 01/08/2010 at 01:34pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
My sister was a single working mom, and my nephew would give her all kinds of hell over things like snowpants. One day he refused to put on boots, and the daycare teacher said, "Let him walk out with no boots." My sister said, "Really? I can do that?" So my nephew walked out to the car with no boots. When he got in, he said he wanted his boots on. Yes, he suffered, but it was his choice. I suggest taking a similar tact with snow pants.
I know it's hard to do everything you want as a single parent. I'm going to echo what some of the other people said: go with cereal in the morning (my mom did, and the stuff that I'm angry with her about is NOT the cereal or bad cooking). Give them a low sugar cereal. Get the nanny to help. Since you don't have a husband and you have your own career, I think it's fair to allow yourself a little extra help in the morning. Also, does the school prepare lunches for the kids? If so, is the daily cost worth saving you the trouble? If it is, ask your kids if it's ok that they do that instead.
I've had my own share of anger issues. Ultimately I was screened and treated for depression; have you looked into something like that? Forgive my ignorance. I started reading your blog recently so I'm not up to speed on everything.
Posted by econopete on 01/08/2010 at 02:06pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm fortunate in the aspect of childhood memories – i think back warmly on my childhood, although i do distinctly remember there being instances of both my mother and father losing their temper on multiple occasions. And i think that's the way it's supposed to be. There has to be a balance, and although it may seem that everything has to be 100% clouds and sunshine at the moment, the fact that you care enough to post about it shows that you're doing a wonderful job as a parent.
Posted by Jared on 01/08/2010 at 02:11pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow, as usual I am shocked by your candor. But that's why your feed iaa at the top of my Reader. I am a father have some similar challenges getting my daughter on the bus at 7am every morning. Some thoughts:
Not everything has to be perfect.
Consistency is what will build those fond memories for those little ones.
One refridgerator punch/Fbomb negates a month of waffles and toasty warm clothes.
Fuck can become "fudge" or something similarly PG-13
Not everything needs to be perfect. (repeated for emphasis)
rjp
Posted by Rjpanetti on 01/08/2010 at 02:29pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I understand the need to make waffles (I love a recipe that calls for making the batter the night before, and they're yeaasted, low sugar/half whole-wheat, so maybe you could eat some yourself? http://www.jetsetcarina.com/2009/10/no-not-new-york.html), and the shame of hearing myself scream "shut the fuck up" at a crying kid.
Saying I'm sorry (as my dad always did after yelling at me) and really working hard to change (he is a different person now) — that's how I'm coping with my anger management issues.
It's funny (or not), because my husband and I usually assume it's my frequent frustration with being a stay-at-home mom that contributes most to my anger. But maybe not.
Posted by Jane on 01/08/2010 at 02:34pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
So what are YOU eating while your kids are eating warm and squishy waffles? I always get grumpy when I don't eat. The most I'll cook on weekday mornings is flat (over hard) eggs. And I serve store-bought fruit smoothies because it's fruit and all I have to do is pour. Try eating some good protein when you wake up and see if you have more patience.
Warm fuzzy, bonding moments are for weekends and snow days. Weekday mornings are about survival. Make it as easy on yourself as possible. And forgive yourself for yelling. If you yell at your kids all the time, you have an anger management problem. If you yell at your kids in the mornings, you have a morning problem. You and your son have Asbergers. You're not supposed to be good at transitions and things outside of the routine, so don't beat yourself up because you aren't.
The nanny is a great idea. Remember that many parents have a whole nother person to help with the morning routine even if its just a cameo role. So what if yours is paid to be there? Consider it a gift to your family. The cards are also a great idea. I like livinglocurto.com's morning cards. You can also use music as a cue for the boys (they need to be downstairs eating breakfast by song x). If you forget to pack for the farm, don't cram it into the morning. Pack later or keep some spare clothes and toiletries there. Figure out a back-up for forgotten lunches. Boil your mornings down to the absolute bare minimum. Make things a game or a competition. But remember, your sons don't care about getting out the door on-time so you'll have to motivate them some other way. maybe with waffles on Saturdays. And I have a feeling if you take care of the pre-work mornings your at work anger will clear-up as well.
Posted by Jenn on 01/08/2010 at 03:38pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I need to comment on the issue w/ school. If your child is unhappy, then it is time to consider the appropriateness of his classroom. My child is 11 and he is finally happy in school. He is in a private school. If you need an advocate, email me at libby@faithofachild.org
Posted by Libby on 01/09/2010 at 10:44am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This is what I love about you. You are so honest and you aren't afraid to admit you do things which others pretend doesn't happen in their home too.
I am not proud of my morning struggle each and every day with my 6 year old. And I am not proud I drop the "F" bomb more times than I should admit. But at least I know I am not alone.
Posted by Kelly on 01/08/2010 at 03:39pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I've been praciticing Zen Buddhist meditation for about 6 years now, and it has been hugely helpful with managing anger. The main reason is that it doesn't not say "Dont be angry!" If I view being angry as failure, then when I get angry, it is only intensified by feeling like a complete looser for being angry in the first place.
Instead, Zen Buddhism has taught me to recognize that I'm feeling angry. Just recognize. Breathe with it. What does anger feel like? Do I feel a clenching in my stomach? Is my breathing shallow? Just pay attention to the sensations of anger, and the accompanying thoughts. Don't judge, don't psychoanalyze, don't do ANYTHING to ADD TO IT. Just observe it, quietly and without judgement.
What I get angry about a lot is being late. I used to yell and curse at other drivers. Now the urge rises, and I notice it. I notice the nasty thought – and I realize "Oh, there I go being angry at someone else again, because I'm running late." And now I have a sense of humor about it, because I recognize that this is a familiar pattern. It's mine, and I don't judge myself about it. I just recognize it, don't add anything, accept that this is part of me. In doing that I can give my inner screaming 5-yr-old a small hug, and the mature adult part of me can smile a little in accepting amusement, and I move on.
Posted by Jessica on 01/08/2010 at 04:01pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
All old hat. Nothing new here. If you think there is, you've never read anything by Erma Bombeck.
Posted by jrandom42 on 01/08/2010 at 04:04pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
OMG, jrandom42 you are right! This Xmas I was at my inlaws, and found this Erma Bombeck book. She does write very similar to Penelope. I think Penelope is like a combo of Erma Bombeck + Wendy Williams. Too funny :)
Posted by Cally on 01/08/2010 at 06:28pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Do you notice the morning routine is easier when the farmer or your ex is around? I think one of the primary reasons we have spouses is to keep us from lashing out and giving into the anger bug when no one is there to see. Once when my husband was travelling I considered setting up a video camera to keep myself accountable for how I treat the kids. My problem is using a mean tone, it's awful and only comes out when no adults are around to hear. Not sure that would work for you but it would definitely be cheaper than a morning nanny.
And being tourtured with watching the kids eat waffles is totally part of the problem. Instant oatmeal is hot and much easier not to get pissed off about. Try it.
Posted by ash on 01/08/2010 at 04:08pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Minor point, but I'm astonished to read that many people think a "real breakfast" is something other than cereal. I ate my way through a billion boxes of cheerios when I was a kid and I still think it's an ideal breakfast choice. What's not to love about protein and carbs? Added bonus: cereal is self-serve a lot earlier than lots of other options.
Posted by Kate on 01/08/2010 at 04:15pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
We had big breakfasts on the weekend, featuring things like waffles, pancakes, French toast, etc. (not all at once, mind you). On weekdays, we ate cereal–oatmeal if it was cold out. And my mother made instant oatmeal, not the traditional kind.
She was a great mother, because she made us feel like people and let us know that she was one, too.
Posted by KateNonymous on 01/10/2010 at 05:13pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
OMG! This so could be me on a week day morning. Trying desperately to stay calm while getting everyone ready and out the door.
I'm a stay at home mum so I don't even have the pressure of work to deal with.
This year I've decided to say no to all requests for me to do volunteer work so I can focus on getting the right balance with my family.
Posted by Marita on 01/08/2010 at 04:33pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Dear Penelope Trunk, I saw a comment about you from somewhere else. It said you're brilliant, but can be insane. Wow! I think this post illustrates that!
Your craziness makes me normal, I didn't think it was possible but I guess everything is relative.
I enjoy your blog. Thanks!
Posted by Thanh Lu on 01/08/2010 at 05:06pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I used to fixate on solving problems. But some things aren't problems–they're facts. Once I realized that my options for dealing with facts are different, I stopped going ballistic on people. Well, I don't do it as much as I used to.
John
Posted by john gaines on 01/08/2010 at 05:17pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
OMG, P – This IS ME – I promised myself every single night that I wouldn't lose my temper the next day getting everyone out to school, to soccer practice, to basketball, to ballet, to do their homework, eat their vegetables, brush their teeth, go to sleep…
My children are in their 20's now, and I recently told them that my husband (who I have always believed is infinitely nicer than I am) was a much better Dad than I was a Mom – they were shocked – they didn't remember my outbursts as anger at all – they just thought I was hilarious…maybe I should have used the F-word more…
Posted by Elaine Basham on 01/08/2010 at 05:18pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am so glad you wrote this!
Everybody has days like this, in one form or another (I think). You said other moms don't worry about this? I highly doubt it! It's just a rarity for people to come out and admit it… I mean, if it's not the particular problem of yelling, then it's the problem of being passive aggressive. Or putting too much pressure on the kids. Or being mean to the husband. Or drinking too much. Or being shallow. Or ….
The important thing, like you said in the happiness post, is to be thinking about it every day.
The good thing is that people are pretty resilient. Everybody has flaws and all the people around them have to deal with them. The important thing is that your kids *know* that you see your own flaws and are working on them. Which is worth way more than a morning of not pounding the fridge, I think.
Posted by maggie on 01/08/2010 at 05:35pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Oh gawd! What a morning. This post had me snorting and laughing out loud. I know … not very empathetic, is it? But it's because of this: I recognize it all. I agree with other commentors that it's important to acknowledge my faults to my children (mommy's tired, mommy's not so much fun, mommy lost her temper) but everyone owes it to their kids to do more than that — to not just acknowledge, but to be conscious and work on a real change (not just a "sorry"). And you ARE doing that. You're ahead of the crowd. Thanks for sharing in such an open and honest way.
Posted by coffeewithjulie on 01/08/2010 at 05:53pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope,
I grew up in a house where this was the routine morning/afternoon/any outing we planned. In fact, as adults, it still sometimes turns out like this. Maybe you will all need some counseling in the end, but most of the world does. I adore my parents, and while my family has its ups and downs, we have great memories, even of the "yelling mornings". Work on the anger management but remember that you are human.
Posted by Jennifer on 01/08/2010 at 06:15pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
My aunt (mother of two sons) has a magnet on her fridge saying: "OK, so I'm not a perfect mom. GET OVER IT"
Calms her down a lot ;)
Posted by Dominika on 01/08/2010 at 06:26pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Your kid's sniveling about his snowpants cracked me up — it made me think of how my Dad handled crying little kids. (Which, looking back, seems much more sane than my mother's angry yelling.)
My brother used to (routinely) cry when my dad made him sit at the table until he finished eating all his broccoli; I remember once crying because I was dying to watch 'The Night Stalker' & Dad had turned the channel to 'Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom" (hey, it was the 70's). In both situations, the exchange would go like this:
Dad: "Hey: What are you crying for, are you hurt ?"
Me: (mumbles/loud sniffs) "Uhm, no …."
Dad: "Well, then STOP CRYING. Dont cry unless youre hurt."
No kid could argue with logic like that. No matter what's wrong with those damn snow pants …
Posted by neko on 01/08/2010 at 06:36pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
From Dad: "Stop crying over nothing, or I'll give you something to cry about!"
Posted by jrandom42 on 01/10/2010 at 01:15pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Things that are awesome in this post:
"I want to tell you I used a calm voice, but I worry I used a psycho, calm-before-the-storm voice." Oh how familiar I am with that voice. I have mastered that voice when I tell my boyfriend I'm not mad at him. But men don't get subtle clues (it's because they have less gray matter in their brains or something), so he actually thinks everything is fine. Until I blow up.
"The kids don't notice warmness because they are punching each other, furtively, like I’m not going to see them if it’s under their jackets." Ahahaha! I tell you, my most fond memories of my brother and I in childhood is all the playful fighting. It was how we showed to each other that we cared (and how I got him to bring me stuff when I was too lazy to get off the couch).
You're fine, Penelope. Just love your kids and tell them that you do often.
Posted by Irina I on 01/08/2010 at 06:50pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"it's because they have less gray matter in their brains or something"
Posted by Irina I on 01/08/2010 at 06:51pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I don't know how you do it. But remember the Marine commercial? (we do more before 5:30 am then you do all day) or something like that….
Give yourself some credit for making it through the day- I can't believe all the stuff you have going on AND
Posted by Marni on 01/08/2010 at 07:25pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thanks for being honest about losing it with the kids. We've all done it, but mothers are afraid to admit. I've got a theory, men don't lose it with their kids as much as moms do because kids don't whine to men the way they do to women.
Not sure if that's true, but it gives me permission to cut myself some slack, and still feel superior at the same time.
Lisa
Posted by Lisa Earle McLeod on 01/08/2010 at 07:32pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
They know we can toss them into the air without too much effort. I'd be afraid of someone who could throw me halfway across the room, too.
Posted by econopete on 01/08/2010 at 08:42pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
And yet I never once thought of that with my dad. We didn't whine much because neither of them would tolerate that tone–but they let us know by telling us, not threatening us.
Posted by KateNonymous on 2010-01-10 17:15:03 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
I once went immediately to work and scheduled a series of acupuncture appointments and other various self-care tactics after I flipped off the semi-retired lady who is the crossing guard at my children's school after she wouldn't let me make a left-hand turn.
This, after a similar morning getting ready for school. It was a terrible morning but sill, the woman stands out there in ice and heat to make sure my kids don't get hit by cars.
In my defense, she was blowing her whistle at me in a VERY aggressive manner.
Posted by Pamela on 01/08/2010 at 08:00pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Pamela – OMG. Please visualize a hug from reading this. I'm laughing so hard tears are streaming down my face. Reading all of the comments is so cathartic and makes me feel normal. Your comment is hilarious. I've never gone that far, but BOY have I thought about doing the exact same thing! I love that you scheduled self-care tactics for losing your cool. awesome.
Posted by Jennifer on 01/08/2010 at 11:42pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Everyone says to let the nanny help you in the morning. I agree. There's no point in having an intimate morning if it stresses you and the kids out. Have your kids lay out the clothes for the next day when they go to bed. It really helps.
Posted by Mneiae on 01/08/2010 at 08:29pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I love this post and I love your blog.
I am going to apply those techniques. Penelope your are really incredible. And Brillant…
Thank you very much you blog helps me.
Posted by sylvain on 01/08/2010 at 08:53pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
You are one seriously messed-up individual. The rest of us invite u to the meetings. Noob has to bring brownies. (the noob ALWAYS forgets the brownies, so no biggie)
Posted by John b on 01/08/2010 at 09:21pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I LOVE the "no Fuck" advice earlier in the comments. I SO identify with this post and most of your posts on parenting. I often get stares of disbelief when I say I'm not a "kid person" knowing that I have a six-year-old. Of course I love him and, no, I don't want any more kids. It is HARD.
Regarding your screaming "shut the fuck up." I laughed out loud because I have never admitted it publicly but here's something I did.
After countless mornings of demanding, yelling, begging and pleading my son to move faster in the mornings, one morning I broke and yelled, "quit dragging ass in the mornings! Mommy does NOT HAVE TIME FOR THIS!"
His teacher told me two days later that he cursed for the first time in school telling another six-year-old to stop talking to him because he "doesn't have time for that" and if he didn't shut up he was going to "chew his ass." The teacher wondered where he would ever get that language because he's "such a lover and so gentle-hearted." Private Christian school. Humiliating.
So I sat him down and did not yell because I'm a horrible parent. Instead I told him he could make a lot of money off of mommy. I said I want to be a better mommy for him so I promise not to curse anymore when I'm mad at him. If I do, he has permission to WAIT UNTIL I COOL OFF, then point out what curse word I yelled at him and he will earn $5 every time. He loses everything and gets punished if he ever says a curse word at school.
Yes, it's horrible and it cost me $10, broke the habit, he hasn't cursed at school since in 3 months and I feel like a better mom for apologizing and fixing it.
Accept help from your Nanny. No one enjoys making lunches like betty crocker and that's okay. you enjoy their hugs and kisses and are a proud mommy. we all can do better and all they remember is how hard you tried to do the best you could.
Congrats on being a great mommy and a real person.
Posted by Jennifer on 01/08/2010 at 11:37pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
YES! i am a chronic yeller. when my husband asked me for my new year's resolution, i said "i'd like to stop yelling at the kids so much." until today it never occurred to me that i'm the one with the anger problem (because i always thought he was — he still is, but now i know we share the same affliction).
today i scared the crap out of my 2yo with my anger problem. she was being ridiculously clingy and wouldn't let me put her down, but she wanted juice. so i went to sit her on the couch and she screeched in protest, then bucked her legs like she was on a trampoline, jamming her skull into my jaw and making me bite off the right third of my tongue.
it hurt so bad and i was so immediately furious that i dropped her onto the couch and screamed a bitten-tongue-muffled expletive.
it gets better. i didn't have to do it, but i couldn't stop myself — i raised my right hand high into the air and heaved the sippy cup i was holding right at the ground. it bounced off the kitchen floor and hit the television with a smack before rolling across the livingroom carpet, after which my 2yo screamed in horror and my husband came running out of our home office where he'd been working to see what the hell i'd done.
i was doubled over in pain with a bleeding mouth and my toddler was still crying, curled in a fetal position across the room, watching me with bloodshot eyes and shivering, her lower lip quivering, catching on her bottom teeth with every other inward heave.
my husband told me i should really get a handle on how i react to the kids when they do stuff like that, because apparently he's never had his tongue cut off by a toddler's skull (or knee or elbow or whatever other hard bony surface that always seems to make its way to my face every other day).
i did my best to keep from spitting tongue blood in his eye as i filled my kid's cup with juice, then scooped my 2yo up in my arms and sat down on the couch, rocking her with my arms wrapped around her belly, my lips pressed against the blond curls on the top of her head, and my eyes on Grey's Anatomy.
Posted by BB on 01/09/2010 at 01:18am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I understand. I've had better and worse days. Days where the best I can do is let my kid watch too many cartoons while I try to figure out what is triggering me and how I'm going to stop. I've also learned how to talk with my child after I've calmed down and that was something I never had with my own parents. And no amount of training or schooling has helped me when I finally snap. Blowing my top is familiar and safe in it's own warped little way. However, what I have read and learned does help me understand the what and the why of my actions and eventually I do gain some insight. With that said, knowing you want to change, knowing that change will bring harmony into your life is a step in the right direction. As for me, I'm going to focus on the fact that tonight during a very tense moment with my child I chose to close my eyes and take deep breaths. I know my daughter was waiting for an explosion and I was happy not to give her one. We need to give more energy to the times we succeed and let our mistakes help us continue to find new ways to do it right.
Namaste
Posted by Shelly on 01/09/2010 at 01:50am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Oh god BB… this literally made me cry. I have done stuff like this and maybe worse. I know just exactly how you feel, and its not good. Forgive yourself, if you can (I try everyday and sometimes I cant forgive myself) or at least try and learn from it. Your daughter loves you- and youre probably a great mom 90% of the time. Focus on that.
Posted by Kay on 01/09/2010 at 12:35pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
If I merge that last two posts I'm left with the question, "can you be happy and angry at the same time"?
I cope the best I can and I've decided I'm not saving up for my kid's college. I'm saving up for her counseling because I know one day I'm going to have to answer for a lot of my coping skills.
With that said she is putting together a nice collection of horse trading cards that are given as "guilt" gifts.
I wonder if she is learning that rolling her eyes and covering her ears while I talk is a sure guarantee she is going to get more cards…hmmmm.
Posted by Shelly on 01/09/2010 at 01:34am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, you sound so much like me when I was your age. I just wrote about it a couple days ago: http://nototherwisespecified.typepad.com/blog/2010/01/rages.html in fact. I've made a LOT of changes in my life, including all those "be better prepared so I don't freak out" changes, and get calmer, etc. But the one and only thing that helps me keep my cool ALL THE TIME is medication. Not "make me stupid" medication, just "make me calm" medication.
I'm convinced it's because of neurological issues. Yours might be, too. Just a thought.
Sara, diagnosed with Asperger's at age 41
Posted by Sara on 01/09/2010 at 03:02am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, this entry reminded me of the reason why I started reading your blog post, then kept reading, then joined the professional community, which now feels like a part of me.
It's because of your authenticity. There is no cover-up nor self-pity. That's something I cannot think of other than here.
I believe whatever issues be solved between you and others, because we are all here because you are you.
Posted by Isao on 01/09/2010 at 05:24am | permalink | Reply to this comment
These kinds of posts, although really funny to read, make me glad I made a serious long standing decision never to have have babies.
Waking up at 5:30 just to get some peace?
Insanity.
My mom had a nanny. Called Molly.
Molly used to have to get us on the morning bus to school.
But the whole morning was structured as a race between me and my brother.
No one ever won anything, but being highly competitive siblings we'd race to get up, use the loo as fast as possible, and eat our breakfasts like maniacs and finally get to mock the loser. [which was the end of the race].
I was at the time totally oblivious to what a nice manipulation it was to get us out of the house.
All I knew was that I needed to THRASH my stupid brother!
Maybe give that a try. It was a fun way to start school.
Posted by Shroffer on 01/09/2010 at 06:32am | permalink | Reply to this comment
When you have to get kids off to school and then get to work it's nothing short of hell. You are not alone. When my husband is away I have to do it on my own and by the time I get to work I am exhausted.
GET THE NANNY TO COME IN FOR THE MORNINGS!!!!!!!!!!! The mornings are the worst part of my day and if I could afford a nanny even 2 hours a day I'd choose 6-8am.
But if you insist on toughing it out:
1. Put the kids in their clothes and they can sleep in them (seriously, I do this, my mother is horrified!)
2. Make the kids a peanut butter sandwich the night before and they can eat it in the car on the way to school.
3. Let the kids buy their lunch. Every day the same lunch. As long as it's something healthy like a salad roll why does it have to always be different?
4. Have special breakfasts on the weekend and let them wear their pyjamas all day.
5. So what if the socks have holes in them?
6. Keep yoghurt, bread, a toaster, fruit, cereal at work and have your breakfast when you get to work.
7. Get an office with a door!
Good luck…
Posted by Cathy on 01/09/2010 at 07:29am | permalink | Reply to this comment
hello P … point six … the food thing … keep the waffles and syrup for the weekends or hols when the schedule is not so tight – I have a just five and just seven yr old boys and if I fed them refined sugars and refined white flour on a school day they'd be pinching and more and unmanageable too each morning(like I am ON THE SAME DIET) … we go the rice cakes with protein on top – like fish and grilled cheese … followed by fresh fruit with no sugar yogurt – you should see the difference … i know this sounds trite … but put yourselves all on high protein first thing and see the noticable difference (we are a gluten free household so knocks out a huge array of waffle like product …) we also do no refined suguars incl honey on around 300 days our of 60 each year .. this was done to modify behaviour issues with son one and skin issues with son two and fat issues with me :)
I like the no fuck rule too … the last ryme my eldest came out with was 'f#cken heck, it's a ship wreck' I know he did not get the first two words from me – I never say 'heck' …. best le
Posted by le on 01/09/2010 at 07:47am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Has anyone asked you why you're so angry?
Alex touched on it talking about the true and underlying cause of anger, and then Chris M. said how anger is a mask for hurt and sadness, but have you ever really, really asked yourself the question?
It is clear that this is not a new journey for you and No. 5 above is about addressing the true source of frustration but I am talking about anger from way, way, way back when. Your biography certainly warrants anger but then you yourself have talked about the locus of control and so you know that an internal locus of control does not let circumstances or people control your emotions, which is why I ask: Why are you so angry?
You certainly are honest with all of us. That is why we keep coming back for more, because we appreciate how frank you are and we respect it so much. But are you that up front with yourself? Because the easiest person in the world to lie to is yourself. Really.
I recently read a post on the Remarkable Communication blog about how not to be a bad boyfriend, the premise being that this model from life can be used in so many more contexts than relationships with significant others. The line that stuck most with me was: "Don't treat the waitress better than you treat your date." I took that line to heart, because I think it is so easy for us to forget common etiquette with the people we love most, because we know that according to some law of the universe, they still have to love us at the end of the day, no matter how dysfunctional the relationship is. There is always the potential, however, to reach a point where the mistreated individual says "Enough," and moves on. That's why we have the word "estranged" in our lexicon.
So, I return to my original question, Penelope: Why are you so angry? Except there are no parenthetical additions here, such as (this morning) or (about the snow pants).
Just: Why are you so angry?
I am sure you have asked yourself this at least 15,330 times but if you are still asking it, I think that means you have not truthfully answered it. I don't blame you. It's not an easy one. But it is certainly a valid one.
Finally, I think Neko's dad's question, "What are you crying for? Are you hurt?" is one that can serve us all throughout the rest of our lives. I had to ask it to myself recently and the answer was: "No. You're just being (a miserable,) selfish (bitch)."
And I stopped crying. And I felt better.
Posted by Margaret on 01/09/2010 at 07:50am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I have been following your blog posts for a while now and love your openness and honesty. I should say that I have had issues with anger especially with my brother who was expert at pushing my buttons. I used to come out as a fool looking out of control even though he was at the wrong side of the argument many times. But now I think I have been able to reduce it quite considerably and turn it back on him.
One thing that worked for me, is to become aware of it when I become angry. I don't try to fight it, but I just make sure I become aware of it. It doesn't help reduce the anger, but gives an handle in directing the anger. This is related to the concept of 'Mindfulness', am I sure you must have read about it.
Posted by Guruprasad on 01/09/2010 at 07:53am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope you poor sweet angel,
That effortless seeming parenting is just too hard to do by yourself! When I was a single mom I was always at the end of my rope and I only had one little daughter and an abusive exhusband to contend with. Calm moms have a strong, daily support system and lots of us just aren't blessed with that. Everyone that I know who grew up with a single mom loves and reveres her sacrifice and commitment everyday. You aren't perfect but you are to be commended for the incredibly challenging life's work you have taken on.
Posted by lisa on 01/09/2010 at 08:20am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm married and I still can't cope with the morning routines of wake-up, school uniforms, breakfast, homework & backpacks, lunch money, transportation, etc. for more than just myself and that's not easy, either. I remember that most men haven't had to deal with all this, and so am very thankful I have a husband that easily gets up at 5 am, and has the coffee and oatmeal all ready.
Some people (like me) are just not morning people. I do a better with the evening side of childcare like the bath, homework, talking about how the day went, piano lessons, scouts, getting friends back home, cleaning the room, brushing the teeth, setting the alarm clock, rocking to sleep, etc.
It takes a village….
Posted by Yvette on 01/09/2010 at 08:33am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This is such an important post and discussion to have. I'm embarrassed to admit how many times my wife and I have turned to each other and said "at least we're not beating them", as some pathetic type of minuscule victory after a ridiculous display of what could loosely be described as "parenting". There has got to be another way besides yelling, and I tend to believe that it is closely connected to meditation/breathing/Zen and concepts conveyed in The Power of Now. But knowing this and making actual change in the moment when it's needed are 2 radically different things.
Having said all this, I disagree with most of the comments that are basically suggesting you take the easy way out be it with the nanny, cereal, cutting yourself slack, whatever. Lowering the bar is not how people like you (and I for that matter) feel good about yourself. We are driven to achieve. Keep the standards high and modify the techniques to achieve the goals. I think it's awesome that the kids get waffles. Keep doing it.
Posted by Brian Johnson on 01/09/2010 at 08:39am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Brian, initially I agreed with you about not taking the easy way out. However, there are some things that people just aren't good at. For example, I'm horrible at structuring my time and future plans, so I rely on my cell phone alarm and electric calendar to help me keep track of time and future plans. I get very stressed when I'm pressed for time, so it's important for my happiness that I manage it well. Getting to work and appointments on time, I feel, make me a better person than cheating to compensate for my weaknesses. I almost forgot to pick a friend up the other day from guard duty. Yes, it happens, but I don't want it to happen all the time, and it's not fair to him when I don't follow through on an agreement or promise.
I think that Penelope can show her love much more effectively in other ways. For example, she could skimp on waffles for breakfast, but prepare better dinners (though "better" is in the taste of the beholder). Or just do waffles for dinner; my mom's done that.
That's my two cents, anyway.
Posted by econopete on 01/11/2010 at 02:13pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I would lovingly explain to the farmer, (while your are negotiating your way through the relationship) that this blog… this website, this business, is your farm.
Posted by heidi on 01/09/2010 at 09:04am | permalink | Reply to this comment
i was wondering how the farmer's crept back into P's life…will scour your site for whatever i'd missed. needless to say, if he becomes a life partner for you, perhaps he can be that helpful/calm secondary voice that quells the chaos.
Posted by thatgirlinnewyork on 01/09/2010 at 06:45pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Your mornings are like mine, except yours are earlier and you have half the kids.
I also have to get them to practice their piano for 15 minutes each (times 4 kids). I am usually 75% successful.
My biggest problem in the morning is slow eaters, slow risers, half-assed piano practice, girls complaining about hair & clothes, Nintendo obsession, and boys fighting. Except for the slow eaters, these are bounded problems with reliable solutions.
I find that if I serve a low glycemic-index breakfast (such as bacon & eggs plus fruit or oatmeal made from steel-cut oats plus fruit), their behaviour is better. Waffles, toast, bagels, dry cereal…worse behaviour.
Because I'm Indian, I also bring out my Russel Peters Indian accent and say, "Somebody gonna get it. Somebody. I'm not going to say who…I think you might know him verrrry well…", if they misbehave.
And when all else fails, I yell. I'll see you in mommy hell…I'm sure they'll let me in.
Posted by Jay Godse on 01/09/2010 at 09:05am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think you can learn something from watching Jake in "Two And A Half Men." Does a kid care whether his mittens are warm when he puts them on? Heck no. So that's one less thing to do in the morning, which means one less thing to stress about.
Meantime. I read the "origins of agriculture" piece linked here. A less academic interpretation is in former FDA chairman David Kessler's book, "The End of Overeating." He exhaustively explains the impact of certain foods on brain chemistry (notwithstanding the article's hypothesis that a cereal diet made it possible for civilization to advance by narcotizing people into being nicer, less aggressive, able to work, etc.). If you deal with anger issues, or at the least can't figure out why you always order the cinnamon crunch bagel at Panera, even though you know you shouldn't, Kessler's book is very helpful.
Posted by Laura on 01/09/2010 at 09:06am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Just the name anger "management" makes me crazy. What's with the management? it sounds like an oxymoron. Anger should not be managed but released, safely. Anger is a good thing as long as there is no splitting off during the rage releasing. That is straight from my shrink. I liked this post, I loved that I felt better about my parenting
( single also ). I remembered my mornings, absolutely the most anxiety filled of the day. I somehow felt forgiven by consensus. You are a great mother P because you care to be aware.
Posted by Nancy Carroll on 01/09/2010 at 09:39am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Some of the concepts about organization are right but you need to keep at it. It takes 14 days for something to become a routine. A great site and motivator is http://www.flylady.net Read her free site and some of her "baby steps" concepts to get on the right track. Also simplify your life. Feed the kids breakfast. It does not need to be waffles.
Posted by jeannie on 01/09/2010 at 10:19am | permalink | Reply to this comment
If the point is to put your children first and give them a good morning, rather than making yourself feel good about yourself because you can 'do it all' on your own, then I suggest the same thing others on this blog have said–either bring in the nanny or dial back the 'cocoa and waffles' routine. My mom fed me cereal or toast every morning and it didn't keep me from being a well-behaved high achiever. More importantly, our mornings were scream-free and we usually made it to school on time (who cares about a few tardies, anyway? ;)).
I know boys can be more difficult but that's just more of a reason to have help and/or adjust inflated expectations. I think the problems you described are coming from thinking too much about yourself and saving your own face. Instead, when those thoughts and fears come into your mind, switch focus to the love you have for your boys. They should come first, not the 'rest of the world' that is supposedly out there judging you for not always having everything tied up with a neat bow.
It took me a long time to learn that lesson–to put my loved ones and not the judgers first in my priorities. But it has changed my life and I'm so thankful for the freedom and the increased closeness with family and real friends that has come from it.
Posted by Becca on 01/09/2010 at 10:42am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm a yeller. I have a kid who's Aspie too. Welcome to the great secret parenting club that nobody planned to join.
My husband says that having kids is like living with two drunken leprechauns.
Kids can't be controlled by our will. They have their own agendas. Their brains live in the sandbox all the time: they stare, twirl, make random repetitious noises, and just be instead of do. They don't get us, we don't get them.
Exactly what drives schedule-focused parents batshit.
Like others here, I can offer some suggestions from our very Aspie-focused home:
1. Don't sweat the yelling too much. Just never swear, and always apologize right after yelling. Kids yell too. It's good to model apologies for them.
2. Put everything on a timer — 10 minutes to get dressed (and you must get dressed *before* breakfast), 20 minutes to eat, 10 minutes for bathroom/teeth, 10 minutes to dress for the door, etc. Total: 50 minutes. I call out when I'm starting the timer for each task. They can race each other if they like. Believe me, things get done fast.
3. Breakfast is exactly the same every day: whole-grain cereal, milk, cheese, eggs. It's self-serve (except the eggs). What they don't finish goes in their lunchbag (which was packed the night before and in the fridge, as yours are). Why not? Kids like things the same. Don't fight it. Fancy breakfasts just confuse them.
4. Some mornings are "treat days" – I have a treat for the kids who get everything done by the bell, and they can eat it on the way to school. There's got to be something in it for them too, not just for us.
These suggestions aren't really about anger management, but maybe chaos management is really at the heart of this post.
Posted by Nancy on 01/09/2010 at 10:52am | permalink | Reply to this comment
FYI, there are actually nine tips listed. You doubled up on number three.
Great post! Thanks for sharing the advice. I've been struggling with anger issues for years. Also, I've decided to grab the "Kids, Parents, and Power Struggles" book mentioned earlier, which wouldn't have happened if you didn't make posts like this. Thanks again.
Posted by Philip on 01/09/2010 at 10:57am | permalink | Reply to this comment
It would be really helpful if you could place these tips in context of your struggle with Aspergers for yourself and your children. Aren't there unique aspects to Aspergers that you have overlooked here?
Posted by Helen on 01/09/2010 at 11:06am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Also: Kids can make their own lunches. There's no such thing as too young, as long as it's the same lunch every day. A four-year-old can slap some ham between two slices of bread, and put a yogurt, apple, and cookie in a bag.
Posted by Nancy on 01/09/2010 at 11:15am | permalink | Reply to this comment
If you like peace and quiet in the morning, then racing around getting other people ready for their day is not going to mesh well. I suspect by the time you are at the office after such a morning, you are OD'd on external noise.
If it were me, with your options, I would ask the nanny to come in for a month or six weeks, and work with the kids to be more responsible for their morning prep. And I would prepare to be late to work and late dropping them at school some days, because that's how it is when you do serious work to make changes.
Also, if someone told me my behaviour was 'self-loathing' I'd laugh in his face and then tell him to fuck right off. It's one thing to say how another person's actions annoy or disturb you, but quite another to engage in amateur analysis.
Posted by pericat on 01/09/2010 at 12:00pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I've struggled with this problem all my life, and every anger issue I had was only exacerbated by having children. But thank goodness I did because it's been the only reason I keep seeking and finding answers – my kids make me want to be a better person. I recently discovered a book that really resonated with me, "The Anger Habit" by Carl Semmelroth, PhD. The premise is that the notion of 'releasing anger makes us feel better" is counterproductive. I've learned that this act of "release" becomes a destructive habit that in the end, does not work for anyone. This book helped me a lot.
So does vodka (in moderation, of course).
Posted by Kay on 01/09/2010 at 12:23pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
The mom in the morning thing. ARGH. My sympathies. Have only one kid, 11-year-old boy. Kid says at dinner last night, "I don't like the school lunches, I want a packed lunch." Husband says, "Yes, that would be better, saves money and is healthier." I say, "Okay, but I will not make them and I will not remind you to take it to school, so if you husband/child want to make them go for it. What I am happy to do is go online once a month, pick out lunches and give them a credit card. You two pick." So they picked bringing lunch which we have done before. I will remember that he doesn't have his lunch on the way to school (and I am on the way to work), and I will feel really bad, but swear to god, not getting involved…I really don't need one more thing to do or feel guilty about.
Posted by Rebecca Gonzalez on 01/09/2010 at 12:48pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I second the recommendation of Carl Semmelroth's book. I used to have a lot of anger problems, in fact I modereated the Anger Management board on ivillage for a while and read quite a few books. His is the best.
On the lunches – when I used to have to make school lunches I bulk made rolls with fillings that allowed them to be frozen. Luckily we had a fridge with the freezer at the bottom. Even a three year old can fetch themself a frozen sandwich, a cereal bar and a juice box.
Posted by Carol on 01/09/2010 at 01:25pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Finally, a real mom that says how things really go in the morning, and not this other crap. I'm glad it isn't just me.
Posted by Tam on 01/09/2010 at 02:39pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Didn't you say one of your kids is on the autistic spectrum? These kids are impossible to get out of the house in the morning. My son is 13 and it is still a struggle. So please don't feel bad about that.
I didn't read all the comments. But is it an American thing to consider waffles and syrup and chocolate milk a HEALTHY breakfast?? I don't get it. It seems like a disaster to me. A bowl of healthy cereal (Cornflakes, Cheerios, whatever) would be so much better. Or a banana. Or some yoghurt. But why spend so much time and effort in the morning to give your kids a sugar rush? Some Americans seem to think it's so important to have something 'hot' or cooked in the morning that they forget what it is they're serving. And what working mom has time to make a hot breakfast anyway? A glass of juice, an apple/banana and some crackers and send them on their way.
Posted by Tammy on 01/09/2010 at 03:37pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
nice article…how do you not realize that the book you just slammed shares the same kind of stories except that to your point gretchen is naturally happier than you and she does so in a longer format…u and your notions aren't really that different from her and hers…i say this as a huge fan and fellow entj
p.s. i know you are pretty aware of your type but what you don't seem so aware of is the fact that a lot of things you attribute to your asperger's are very typical entj behaviors…especially entj women
Posted by melissa spiotta on 01/09/2010 at 04:06pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Interesting…what aspects are typical of entj women? I ask this as I am one myself!
Posted by Laura on 01/09/2010 at 04:14pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I feel you on this. It's hard to be so emotional. I am too, and my 16 year old daughter hates me for it….because she can't help it either. Just like me.
Posted by Lindy Favor on 01/09/2010 at 04:18pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Had another thought. You want intimate moments with your boys? Sure, that's the good part of motherhood. Boys will only do intimacy when they don't have to see your face. Which means that PICKING THEM UP from school is much better than getting them ready. Where they might have to speak to you directly. The ride home from school, provided you bring snacks and drinks in the car, is one of the best inventions ever. BTW, you provoked a lot of of yearning on my part: http://preview.tinyurl.com/ychkhle
Posted by LPC on 01/09/2010 at 04:20pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Schools have cafeterias, why not use them? No one ever packed a lunch for me.
I felt like a terrible mom during the early elementary days for my kids (hell, all of their school). I never was able to handle all the stuff I was supposed to be doing. Their dad was able to do it, and all before leaving for work. That was a better solution than the kids seeing me crazed every day. I'm still no good in the morning.
I never became a domestic goddess or doting mother but both my girls are artists, like me, so I passed along something non-traditional I guess. Child-rearing is harder than work, to me at least.
Posted by Diana on 01/09/2010 at 05:24pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I am a huge fan of your honesty, this post no exception. I'm not a parent, only a social studies teacher. Parenting has never been easier. We live in a time of such abundance that even the little stuff just sets us off because we expect better of ourselves. The reality is ugly.
The line that you wrote that struck me was: I hate feeling like I can’t do normal parenting things on my own. The mornings with the kids seem theoretically intimate, and making school lunches seems like a rite of passage for moms with school-aged kids. I want all that.
"All that" is complete baloney. It never happened, and please don't let anykind of ideologicay paradise of parenting was once joyful and serene get you down. Having a support system in the AM with kids has been the historical precedent. Only in the last few decades have we sociologically forced ourselves into thinking June Cleaver (a fictious fairytale character) and her kind of solve the world's problems while vacuuming in heels garbage was the way we are supposed to be.
I agree that getting thru a morning without the F bomb would be a great start. Your kids are more tuned in and compassionate than you think. Ask them what they think mommy needs to help in the mornings. After that, call the nanny, and invite her back into your mornings. Your kids will still love and respect you.
When I teach history I teach that people are people. Ancient history, Argentina to Zambia, we're all flawed. But we need not be dropping the fbomb in the morning. That's just no fun for anyone. Right? Wether you watch Mad Men or you watch a documentary on Mark Twain's life, history teaches us, its never all peachy keen. Life's a mess. Sure one ought to find ways to be more kind and peaceful when dealing with setbacks and frustrations, but let go of the ideolized perfection.
And I recommend laughter. Even forced laughter in the midst of wanting to drop the f-bomb. Instead of getting irate, just say, "Agggh! This is absurd. Laugh with me for a second on this." Then force yourself to laugh. "Yous socks have holes in them!" Then laugh. "I see your hitting your brother when what you want is my attention. You've got it. Lets laugh about this." Laugh. It sounds absurd, [at first it feels absurd] but it helps. (You will get all the benefits from laughter, relaxation, physical release, happy endorphins, and yes, even a little perspective even if it is forced laughter! -Bonus) The kids appreciate it too. They are used to laughing. Kids want reasons to laugh, they look for them. As adults we really need to laugh at ourselves, the chaos we're in in any given moment and yes, literally laugh at it all. It will help immensely.
I'm currently reading a well researched book called _The Way We Never Were_ by Stephanie Coontz. The amazon review is spot on. "The bold truth of history after all is that "there is no one family form that has ever protected people from poverty or social disruption, and no traditional arrangement that provides a workable model for how we might organize family relations in the modern world."
Be kind to yourself. Get the nanny back in the game. Laugh with your kids instead of yell at them and keep up the self analysis on the chaos of parenting. Stop idealizing parenting: it is wickedly hard work, but remember you're on this journey together, so find ways to enjoy the times in the day you do have together with your kids. Those hours are so short in the scheme of their day anyway. Did I mention, get a nanny and laugh more? It will all be all right. Be kind to yourself through all this transition stuff. You've gone thru a lot in the last month(s!) you know.
Posted by Beckie on 01/09/2010 at 05:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"I'm not a parent, only a social studies teacher. Parenting has never been easier."
Beckie, I'm smiling at this comment. A statement only one who is not a parent would say.
However, the rest of your comment I agree with completely.
Posted by avant garde designer on 01/09/2010 at 08:44pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
My parenting has never been easier line was about having running water indoors (no pumps in the yard in the middle of winter or having to walk to the nearest stream or river); indoor heat and gas stoves (no need to chop wood and tend a fire to heat the home and cook food); no corsets, bloomers, three petticoats and heavy skirts to the floor; we have dryers instead crank machines to squeeze water out of clothes washboard washed; we have the ability to earn, keep and invest our own (so rare in history!)add in grocery stores, cars, polar fleece and all things wow in computer technology. I was talking about parenting without all the stressors of our ancestors, so in a social studies teacher way "parenting has never been easier." We live in a time when we have so many resources! Still parenting has never been easy, ever. Repeat: Parenting has never been easy. EVER. Thanks for reading my post. Penelope, you are better than you realize. You actually reflect on the complexity of parenting. What can be measured or analysed can then be changed.
Posted by Beckie on 2010-01-10 19:07:21 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
My husband compares trying to control kids to trying to hang onto a handful of dry sand by holding it tighter. Everything just slips through your fingers. Getting angry at anyone for being uncontrollable just doesn't work. So I just think of those wild school mornings as surfing chaos. This too shall pass.
Posted by Jess on 01/09/2010 at 05:36pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm thankful that those school mornings are behind me. Mine looked a lot like yours without the snow. I have neighbours who apologise for their yelling in the mornings as they herd their kids off to school. I say you know what? I should apologise to you for not coming over there and helping you! But you see I cannot go back to that dark place!
The little things help though-getting everything ready the night before including the lunches, getting up earlier, working on your own stress (exercise, friends etc).
Posted by Heather on 01/09/2010 at 06:04pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Yelling at the kids so much they cry, then rewarding them with waffles and too many kisses?
If you were a man and they were your wife, they'd say there's no excuse for domestic violence.
Glad to hear you're not putting in so many hours at work to work on your "anger management issues".
Posted by Sam on 01/09/2010 at 07:17pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I didn't have an anger problem until I became a mother. Then, quite rapidly, I developed a rage problem. It's not so bad now, but I think that's mostly because I'm getting more sleep. My kid doesn't wake me as much at night as she used to. Whenever I'm not rested, my husband and daughter know that "mean mommy" is likely to surface, so they tip toe around me.
I think the first step to controlling it is just knowing that anger is normal. I spent so much time thinking that something was wrong with me and trying to stuff down and hide the anger. I can tell you: stuffing down anger? It just makes it worse.
I can't say I'm the world's best expert on this, because I did just blog about how I had a standoff at a gas station pump, but I can say that what you mention above would have never worked for me. The following things have:
* Staying away from humanity when I feel as if I'm about to explode. I voluntarily put myself in a padded room.
* Walk away from people before I bite their head's off. Then I do something to change my brain chemistry, usually exercise, but masturbation works rather well, too.
* Write scathing emails to people, and then press the delete button before sending.
* Buddhist compassion meditations. Yes, sounds all new age ish, but it works.
* Speaking up for myself. Usually I get angry when I've been silent about something far too long.
* Not living by other people's rules
* Not worrying about what other people think of me
Posted by Alisa Bowman on 01/09/2010 at 08:28pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thanks for the sage wisdom. I've found that de-escalating a situation as soon as it starts to get heated is absolutely vital. I'm not talking about conflict-avoidance because I believe there's a place for positive conflict that generates ideas and prompts change etc. but when you realize that things could "get ugly" it's time to ratchet things down. I must admit though that it's a little amusing to watch people in meetings that have obviously realized they're at the "time-to-ratchet-down-moment" and knowingly choose to keep needling away.
Posted by Mike on 01/09/2010 at 10:26pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope as an avid reader I can only say to you that if I look back at the last year of posts I see you have been on an emotional rollercoaster with the stress of the startup getting funding and being a success, your budding relationship with the farmer, aspergers and just the one great constant "change".
First please cut yourself some slack as you have taken the first step to change, you are fully aware that anger is an issue.
Every parent in every household in the country if not the world has moments like that. I know you want your personal time with the kids but help yourself find your smile and start the day with a bounce in you step. Even if it is only temporarily get the nanny in in the mornings to help.
I want you to know that having read your blog since 2006 and given that I reread your book at least once every couple of months I believe in you and know that you are going to find the best method for you to cope with this. If there is any way we, your readers can do more to support and help then let us know.
p.s. start setting yourself rewards as well, we do it with our kids why not for ourselves.
Posted by Jonathan Ross on 01/10/2010 at 04:12am | permalink | Reply to this comment
the comments about anger being an offshoot of fear are spot on.
penelope, maybe instead of working on making mornings go perfectly, you could work on being dispassionate about your older son's daily crying before going to school. you know it happens regularly, you know he is actually ok and not being threatened, and it is just his way of opening his stress valve and letting out some anxiety.
in your story it seems like that was the final straw for you.
like, maybe if you can learn to view the situation from 10,000 feet, WHILE YOU ARE IN IT, it won't send you over the edge.
i think what ryan healy said to you is downright mean and i am disappointed in him.
you already know that you don't want to handle situations the way you did in this story, the day will come when you are in the same situation and you handle it in a way you are proud of. keep your chin up.
Posted by ayelet on 01/10/2010 at 07:23am | permalink | Reply to this comment
i'm definitely starting to think sugar has a much more serious impact on my mood than i ever realized.
Posted by jen on 01/10/2010 at 07:54am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, I love you. As far as the "surgeons" advice for checklists. If I were that organized it wouldn't be a problem in the first place. Put, "poop", "wipe" on the checklist? You must be kidding me. I think your approach is great, do some planning and try to make it more of a habit, learn from mistakes….Sweety, we moms all have those frustrations…Keep pounding the fridge.
Do you know the real issue? It's hard to be both parents at once. It just is. I'm hoping the farmer relationship leads to a bit more balance of responsibility. It's tough being a mom.
I checked out "The Pioneer Woman" site. Excellent. Thank you.
Posted by cindy on 01/10/2010 at 08:02am | permalink | Reply to this comment
"poop" and "wipe" were for the 4 yr old, not the adult! And yes, before I made her the list she couldn't remember to wipe AND flush AND wash hands, and now she's very proud when she "follows the list".
I do agree though that 2 adults in the morning makes it 1000 times easier. If you can afford the nanny please hire her. At work you hire people to help you run your business better so you can focus on the parts only you can do. Why not at home to help with logistics so you can focus on things like hugs?
Posted by Laura on 01/10/2010 at 09:27am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Great tips. i need to take this into the office and post it in the break room.
Posted by Kareem on 01/10/2010 at 08:12am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I'm not sure this perspective is welcome, but amid all the cheering let's not lose sight of the fact that getting the kids ready for school is not exactly rocket science. My wife travels overseas about a week a month, during which I'm responsible for getting our 3 kids off to school and myself off to work. This is generally not a problem. Probably the most effective thing I do to make this easier is to make myself a checklist at the beginning of the week of what needs to be done each evening, which includes making lunches and setting out the kids' clothes for the next day. This has been so successful that I've started doing it every week, not just when my wife is away. Not so much trying to say "yay me" as to point out that this is truly a solvable problem.
Posted by Don't hate me on 01/10/2010 at 10:00am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I love this post! It really resonates with me. It's hard to get out of the house every morning and be on time when you spend 20 minutes chasing your toddler around the kitchen table because he doesn't want to put his coat, shoes, and hat on! And it's hard not to yell when he's thrashing around on the floor and the shoe you just managed to get on has been kicked off. Thank you for sharing your experiences. It's refreshing to know that other mom's go through this type of frustration and I'm not alone!
Posted by Jennifer on 01/10/2010 at 12:09pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
"My wife travels overseas about a week a month, during which I'm responsible for getting our 3 kids off to school and myself off to work."
Dear Don't hate me:
Sorry to tell you but standing in for your wife once a month doesn't even begin to compare with the level of responsibility she carries for this matter and EVERYTHING ELSE SHE HAS TO REMEMBER. Yours is such a funny comment. I'm sorry, but I had to laugh. When you do that you are babysitting. Doesn't begin to approach the stress that mothers contend with every day 24/7, even while at work.
Posted by Diana on 01/10/2010 at 02:40pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
@Diana: Wow, that's pretty presumptuous. I carry easily 50% of the childrearing burdens in our family. The only reason I'm not getting them ready for school the other 3 weeks a month is because I go into work early enough that I am home when they get out of school in the afternoon. In addition, until 2 years ago I worked from home for 12 years – most of my childrens' lives. I'm not just running my mouth; I've been in the trenches every bit as much as you have.
Posted by Don't hate me on 01/10/2010 at 03:02pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
@don't hate me.
Sorry, I took your comment as flippant since many men are really helping out rather than being responsible for the kids. There was nothing in your comment to suggest you were more involved than helping out. Also, the phrase "not exactly rocket science" was a trigger.
Women have more on their minds than PB&J when getting kids ready… like when do I get to have a life or focus only on my career! Most of the aerospace and civil engineers I've worked with never had to handle childrearing or other social duties. They left it up to their wives.
Plus, I have watched my daughter become frustrated with her one year old since the baby has been attached to her (literally, since she nurses) since birth. This is not true of her husband, even though he loves and helps with the baby. Answering to the demands and responsibilities of motherhood can be overwhelming by the time they reach school age (thus causing anger). That was my point.
The disparity between the sexes still exists, I'm afraid. If you are helping to eliminate that, then kudos to you.
Posted by Diana on 01/10/2010 at 04:22pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Apology accepted, @Diana. Can't really blame you for assuming what is typical. It's true that far too few men are truly involved in their childrens' upbringing (especially the hard/not-fun parts). Speaking of triggers, one of mine is when guys talk about "babysitting" their own kids.
FWIW, I'll say that those all-too-common uninvolved guys are missing out. Lots of the quality time with kids is mixed in with the parts that are hard work.
I miss working from home.
Posted by Don't hate me on 01/10/2010 at 04:37pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
@Don't hate me:
Agreed. A babysitter is not a parent and a parent is not a babysitter.
Posted by Elizabeth on 01/10/2010 at 11:41pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
@Don't hate me
Cool.
Posted by Diana on 01/10/2010 at 04:53pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Oh, Dear! Tip #1 – Lower your expectations!
Please, please accept yourself for the person you are. Why waffles? Why is it OK to sugar-up your boys if it's not good for you? Could the syrup and marshmallow hot chocolate be contributing to Jr's melt-down?
And please tell me that you are making waffles by sticking them in the toaster or heating them up in the microwave.
Just speaking from personal experience. As an ISTJ, I could get a routine going. Still, my boys had 20+ years of their absent father bad-mouthing me (as I suspect your ex also has a low tolerance for your anger and will reinforce your short-comings with your boys).
On the other hand, my dear friend who is a ENTP can never get her kids to school on time. While plenty of short-sighted people at school judge her negatively, I love her to pieces and she has her on set of values and her kids know this deep down. I suspect they will turn out to be wonderful human beings.
The difference between rocket science and getting a family out the door in the morning is vast. Rocket Scientists are trained grown-ups who have been selected to work together as a team. Families are people learning as they go and may not have compatible personalities. I have heard from other moms that Aspie's can be very difficult personalities and I would think that this would make all mornings tough.
So, get the nanny and calm down, because the yelling will stay with your boys more than your attempts to create a Campbell Soup commercial winter morning.
Posted by Lisa on 01/10/2010 at 05:03pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I don't try to manage anger unless I'm getting paid to.
Posted by Simon Thompson on 01/10/2010 at 08:49pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Great post! So few people fess up to anger issues and I can relate. I would agree with lowering your expectations. I bet Pioneer Woman does not make her kids lunch everyday. I bet she has/had alot of help before her kids could care for themselves. And if she does have help, she won't write about it. Her focus is on what she did well and not on what she didn't do. I bet your kids would love to eat breakfast with you and don't care who makes it.
Posted by Donna on 01/10/2010 at 09:36pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
P,
My single mom (who I love and respect more than anything) used to do the EXACT same thing. When I got old enough to figure it out I made a checklist for myself so as not to bear the wrath. Maybe empowering your kids with some lists might be effective. It didn't make her a bad mom, just human.
Also, lines like this are why I read your blog: "I want to tell you I used a calm voice, but I worry I used a psycho, calm-before-the-storm voice."
Posted by Elizabeth on 01/10/2010 at 09:49pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I have this problem my self but ive learned to deal with it. I stick with number three.
Posted by Hans M. on 01/11/2010 at 02:26am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Loved this post, have added you to my list. Embrace the anger I say; as long as you can be as funny about it afterwards as this, you are completely sane. Love that you both warmed their mittens and then shouted 'fuck' – welcome to my planet of schizophrenic mothering.
It will all come out in the wash, come over to England one day and have a large drink with me!
E
Posted by ELS on 01/11/2010 at 06:19am | permalink | Reply to this comment
@Don't hate me
If i WERE YOU i'SD JUST SHUT UP AND SIT DOWN.
Posted by Maureen Sharib on 01/11/2010 at 07:23am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Sorry about that! I need to file my nails and when that happens sometimes they overarch the keys on my keyboard and comments like that above get sent before they should. But since it's "out there" and you can see my early reaction to your first remark let me start over like I probably would have anyway:
@don't hate me
If I were you'd I'd just shut up and sit down.
I agree w/ Diana. Your comment sounded flippant. (Gross) disparity (between mothers and fathers) exists and that's what columns like this one are helping to point out and, hopefully, eliminate. But I'm afraid it will be a very long time.
Posted by Maureen Sharib on 01/11/2010 at 07:32am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope I'm one of the moms who do a casual drop-off and then head to work. I do yell sometimes but don't worry about it that much and I most definitely wouldn't try to do waffles on a school morning.
The fact that I don't worry about these things is part of my happiness.
And, sadly, it probably makes me less interesting. If I wrote a post about my morning routine it would not get 150+ comments.
Posted by melanie gao on 01/11/2010 at 07:42am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I have a concern that is almost opposite of the one that this article presents:
How do those of us with an "overly" even emotional response make it show we care about what is occurring in the office?
I am extremely (if not overly) level in my response to crisis and anger situations. Based on my position in an emergency response capability it is a good thing, I need to remain calm, but there are times I fear that it may be confused for me not being passionate about our organization.
Posted by Paul on 01/11/2010 at 08:26am | permalink | Reply to this comment
@ @don'thateme
@ Melanie
@ Paul
Thanks for bringing a rational perspective to the post! I used to like this blog, and its commenters. Lately is looking more and more like an episode of "The View"-bor-ing!
Posted by Joanna on 01/11/2010 at 10:29am | permalink | Reply to this comment
PT: Guess what … you are a NORMAL mom. I hope that makes you feel better. Because it's true, and you need to stop being so hard on yourself.
ALL of us moms have mornings when we pound the fridge and shriek our frustrations to the sky. What you do to "fix" that is apologize. When your kids get home, you tell them that you are very sorry that you lost your temper, and you ask them to forgive you. Then you explain that mornings are hard for you, and that when there is a lot of fighting and confusion, you forget how to breathe. Which is scary. And you tell them that you are working on this problem, and you would like to have their help. Then explain how they can help: "don't fight" being the top of the list.
You are on the right track with your own get ready in the evening routine … why not have your kids do the same? Have them lay out their clothes the night before. Then if someone is missing socks, there is time to find some.
If your son wants his socks repaired when they get holes, teach him to darn. (It works. I showed my son what "fixing" a torn sock meant, how long it takes and how fiddly the work is, and he now cheerfully puts his holey socks in the rag bag, which, I explained to him, is another way to recycle, since we use the rags for things like cleaning spills, dusting, and tying up plants in the garden.)
Above all, give yourself time to change. It takes 21 days to establish a habit. So, give yourself time. And change just one thing at a time. I agree with the person who said your first goal should be a morning without the word "fuck."
Being a mom is hard work, and we all have our "moments." I will add you to my list of moms to pray for. And feel free to e-mail me if I can help. I have two boys who bicker and fight constantly, and it's enough to make a saint swear. At the top of her lungs. Really.
Posted by Editormum on 01/11/2010 at 08:57am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Just have the nanny come help you in the morning.
Posted by Jacqueline on 01/11/2010 at 09:04am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I tell him I already made a decision about the pants. I tell him I am the mom and I already made a decision. This is good. Kids feel secure when they have boundaries and authority.
He screams.
I pound the refrigerator with my fist.
I scream, “Shut the fuck up with the crying.”
How about just ignoring his screams? His screaming is like yours – an outlet of your frustration – and you'd like your kids to ignore yours, right? By reacting to his crying every morning, you reinforce it. He knows when he cries, he will get a response.
Just ignore it.
Out of curiosity, how does your ex handle the morning rush? Often men are better at such things because they don't try so hard, e.g. waffles, warmed mittens, etc.
Posted by been there on 01/11/2010 at 09:28am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This line resonated most with me:
"That’s how it is. Nearly 24 hours of preparation to get through a morning without me yelling, and still, I break thirty rules of anger management in thirty seconds."
I work so hard to control, calm, control, calm until I just bust. It's like trying to diet and binging because you can't take it anymore.
Morning routines are tough for EVERYONE, Asperger's or not. I would say I had about two months straight of this exact scenario. A couple of things helped to change it:
1) A read of Kids, Parents, Power Struggles (I think this is the 3rd recco). Some of it totally didn't work for us, but it had a lot of info about how to just recognize patterns of anger. Mornings were my #1 worst time with the kids.
2) A NYT article that showed how parents are using "Dog Whisperer" techniques with their kids. Of course, children are not dogs. But I truly believe they can sense tension and fear. I was unbelievably tense in the morning, and even if I used a calm voice, I was about to blow. I started to repeat over and over to myself in the morning that I was calm, that every little thing was no big deal, being late was no big deal, etc., and I swear that it started to work. (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/22/fashion/22dog.html)
3) Getting help in the mornings. My husband usually leaves before the kids get up. When he sets up their backpacks & puts breakfast out (2 choices only: cold cereal or peanut butter on bread), it makes a huge difference.
Anyway, enjoyed reading this…if just to commiserate.
Posted by Erika on 01/11/2010 at 09:41am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Awesome article you posted. Thanks for sharing!
Posted by econopete on 01/11/2010 at 02:20pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Oooh, I'm so sorry. It sounds like an awful morning. Don't beat yourself up. Anyone would be frustrated.
With things like the snow pants, I don't know anyone with Aspergers, but is there a way to recognize your son's preference and ask him to do a favor for you and just bring the pants he doesn't like, just for now? Or just abandon the plan and say, "Ok, if you don't like the pants we won't bring them today, and let's talk about this issue later when we don't have to get to school." I know it sounds weird to some parents, but a lot of these power struggles are about the parent knowing what's best and the kid wanting something because he wants it. You wanted snow pants at school, he wanted not to wear snow pants he doesn't like. Neither one are life and death. Just preferences.
Sometimes it can be easier with small kids if you can scoop out a little more space to look at the situation as not so "either my way/or your way," it's more, "I see what you want here, and I need you to choose a way that ____ can happen because…" It can take more time than just telling the kid what to do, but it also saves a lot of time in fights. Unfortunately, I don't know how Asperger's works in that dynamic.
Posted by Liz on 01/11/2010 at 10:20am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Penelope, you are doing just fine. I too loathe the early-morning frantic getting ready for school thing. And my daughters are teenagers. And only one of them is with us full time. My stress is more about knowing that one of them is lying to me about what time she snuck in the night before or where she is going after school that day. And my stress inevitably culminates in my spewing something like "that's so low-class" when I hear that she spent the night at her boyfriend's house (when she was supposed to be at her father's house) and his parents were perfectly ok with it. Driving to school is the only time I have a captive audience with my daughter, however, so I won't give it up and let her take the bus. So I put up with her screamo music on my cd player and try not to say anything too judgmental.
It's hard because I remember being her age and how every day was such a drama. The key in both of our situations is that we have to know when we've screwed up, and we have to remember to forgive ourselves…
Posted by The Accidental Farmwife on 01/11/2010 at 10:37am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Jill, as a mental health worker "in training," I can say with some authority that even the best intentioned mental health workers lose it on their families and coworkers sometimes. Knowing everything about perfect communication, how to manage "the crazies," and the function of emotions like anger does not make you exempt from the occasional adult-sized meltdown.
And Penelope, as for those other mothers who "who clearly do not worry about yelling and maybe don’t even worry about waffles, casually do drop-off and drive off to the gym," I have a theory: they've made friends with a little helper named 'pam . Benzos, antidepressants, booze, pot: it's easy to get through parenting when you don't feel anything enough to really get pissed about any of it. And even if those gym moms are sober as judges, that doesn't mean they haven't had mini-meltdowns of their own mere minutes before the drop-off. Sunglasses hide tear-stained cheeks well.
Posted by Nora on 01/11/2010 at 11:06am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Another secret about the calm moms: Maybe they have easy kids. All kids do have meltdowns, but some do it a lot more often than others. There are children — I know some, though they aren't related to me — who mostly cooperate, do as they're asked, have little trouble with transitions, look forward to school, are flexible, only need to be told not to do something once, don't touch things that are off limits, stay in bed until 7:00 am even if they're awake, etcetera. And some kids are extremely difficult to manage. Mine fall somewhere in between, and it's hard enough — and that's without any special needs in the mix! I think most of this is inborn temperament, though of course we can always work with our kids (as we do with ourselves) to improve their coping skills. So their parents aren't as tempted to lose their cool. (And maybe they have less intense temperaments themselves.) Not all parenting jobs are creating equal — some parents just have it harder than others. Just a thought for when you're wondering how they do it all.
Posted by Laura on 01/11/2010 at 11:21am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I completely agree with this.
Posted by Erika on 01/11/2010 at 11:23am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Or maybe they know how to separate the big stuff from the small stuff.
Posted by Belinda Gomez on 01/11/2010 at 02:17pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
@ Nora
@ Laura
@ Erika
So for you guys, moms that don't lose their stuff is because either a) they are sedated or b) the kids are "not that difficult"? What if these moms decided to chill, on their own, because they keep things in perspective? Un-effing-believable.
Posted by Joanna on 01/11/2010 at 11:47am | permalink | Reply to this comment
@Joanna: I do not agree that happy moms are sedated or have easy kids. I think that:
1) Anger is common among parents. Maybe you don't see it all the time. Most people don't see me getting mad, but it happens. I have yet to meet a parent that didn't lose it at one point or another, and some obviously do it more than others.
2) Acknowledging anger and trying to deal with it is a good thing.
3) Some kids are harder than others. I've just seen too many examples of this plus read a ton of parenting books. Kids have innate personalities that you just have to work with.
Posted by Erika on 01/11/2010 at 11:54am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Thank you for the honesty in this post. I especially liked this part:
I have prepared myself for a moment like this: I identify that I am not upset with my sons but upset with what the world thinks of me as a parent. I tell myself I am good at self-regulation and I do not take this frustration out on my children.
I think it is especially difficult to write about parenting as a single parent, because the criticism can be so severe. I really related to what you wrote and was glad to know I am not alone.
Posted by Sula Lee on 01/11/2010 at 12:03pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
@Joanna
I didn't say all calm moms have easy kids, I said that is ONE reason some moms are calm. Other reasons include:
- innate temperament [i.e. it's not that hard for them to stay chill]. I know a mother of four kids under five who really is pretty relaxed most of the time. She says that's just how she's always been.
- or that they do have trouble with anger and frustration but have worked really hard at managing their own emotions or coping skills [i.e. decided and figured out how to chill or keep things in perspective]. On good days this is me. On bad days, it's, um, not. :)
- or that they have more help at home than Penelope and some other posters do
- or that they are good at pretending to be calm but aren't really (many moms I've complimented on how calm they seem say this is the case)
- or hey, maybe some are sedated!
Posted by Laura on 01/11/2010 at 01:03pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
It could also be that calmer moms have better sex.
You know, I'm not sure if the comments would have been the same if the blogger was a) a man or even b) one of the broads from The Real Housewifes of Atlanta.
Nice writing, though.
Posted by Joanna on 01/13/2010 at 09:17am | permalink | Reply to this comment
This post is great. The reality of things so overwhelms analysis. Your morning perfectly illustrates the reality of these parenting moments–which are nonstop, unschedulable, and relentless in their unpredictability.
I love the irony of the post…here are the things you are "trying" and then it explodes into the reality that nothing works…but it DOES work because you make it through and live to fight another day. There is no "solving" these issues, only managing the moments. You manage as best you can until it falls apart and then you pick up the pieces and manage again.
Posted by Dave Atkins on 01/11/2010 at 01:57pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think there are a ton of organizational strategies that can make things calmer at the Trunk household.
Buy kids' socks in all one color–everyone wears black or blue or whatever. Throw away the ones with holes.
Kids can eat cereal, hot or cold, for breakfast. You can make oatmeal in the slow cooker the night before. If you don't have one, get one.
Why can't snow pants go back and forth? Or get rid of them all together. Keep a change of clothes for each kid in the car. Same for yourself.
Who cares if the guys at work think you wear the same clothes every day? Make it a trademark. Keep a scarf/pashmina in your office, in case you need to dress up.
Lower your expectations of the perfect family morning. I think doing yoga on an empty stomach and then confronting the chaos of two kids would make me nuts too. Just get up, eat something protein, and get them breakfast. Listen to music, not the news, while they eat. Don't try to multi-task.
Posted by Belinda Gomez on 01/11/2010 at 02:15pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I love your honesty and have the same issues with anger management… like you i am a work in progress :)
Posted by Nicole price on 01/11/2010 at 02:36pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Yes, this is my life too. I struggle not to yell, and I plan and prepare, but some days everything just seems to go wrong. Once I actually stomped my feet and yelled at my daughter. At least with that one we later laughed that even mommies have temper tantrums. I don't think we have to be perfect. Sometimes I think it's nice not to be and discuss with our children how we have to work to be better people too. It makes them feel better to know they are not alone in the feelings of anger.
Posted by Heather on 01/11/2010 at 03:11pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Oh my god. You nailed my morning. Right down to pounding the fridge and the almost exact quote about the crying. Except I broke my boycott on the local Dunkin Donuts to try and bribe my 4 year old into calming down. (It didn't work) He told his grandmother all about it and emphasized the part where I accidently elbowed him in the forehead…(he claims it was on purpose, but he was standing behind me! I didn't see him, although in hindsight, I probably should have heard him because he was still crying)
Deep breaths.
Posted by Becky on 01/11/2010 at 03:37pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I just found your website and am reading it all. Especially the 'things to do when unemployed'. I like this post especially, anger management is mostly about being honest with yourself.
Posted by Colin on 01/11/2010 at 05:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I wanted to recommend the book When Anger Hurts: Quieting the Storm Within by Matthew McKay. We used this book in an anger management class that I was in. I too thought that anger management classes were for men only, but unlike Penelope, didn't think I was particularly angry. (I was wrong.) Taking the class laid the foundation for the good marriage that I am in and together with yoga and therapy help me to identify my triggers and circumvent them. BTW I recently discovered your blog (through my wife) and really love your honesty and good writing. Even though I am not a millenial (Gen X'er), I also enjoyed The Brazen Careerist.
Posted by Julie Murphy on 01/11/2010 at 09:28pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
please don't drop the f-bomb on your kids. they're children. and you love them. save the f-bomb for the jerks of the world who deserve it.
your kids will love you for your kindness (not the mittens, the waffles, or anything else.) delicious breakfast doesn't make up for a tyrant of a parent.
keep the faith.
Posted by Rhonda on 01/11/2010 at 09:43pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Exercise should be on there somewhere. It's done wonders for my notorious (half) Irish temper.
Posted by Lance on 01/11/2010 at 11:01pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
You have a great writing voice! I need to work on my anger mangement and you post here makes me feel like I am not alone in this crazy wrold where I never have enough time, nothing works out as planned and I am constantly trying to get stugg done! Thanks for a great read.
Amber Sosa
Posted by Amber Sosa on 01/11/2010 at 11:24pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Excellent post.
9. drink a lot of water* and piss regularly (not a joke). Research suggests that water has a calming effect on the body and improves blood circulation. Pissing regularly goes with water consumption to increase digestion and to keep yourself properly hydrated.
* fresh water – not coffee, tea, fizzy drinks or Fruit Juice (not a substitute for water).
10. Work on your anger habit, everyday – By the time we realize that we need help with 'Anger', It is a habit, very much part of us. Eventually It becomes really easy, to blow when the kids are late, when we forget or misplace things or when our partner is moody. Habits are hard, but not impossible, to get out of.
I'm someone who still struggles with terrible anger. I'm a lot better than last year. My experience is that, a lot of people talk about trigger points. Most of the time, defining them yourself is not a good idea as we tend to lie to ourselves. A professional shrink can definitely bring out and help us deal with some of these k-paxian stories that we tell ourselves.
Posted by Mirrors on 01/12/2010 at 01:34am | permalink | Reply to this comment
If Ryan said to me "It’s self-loathing. Take some responsibility." I would consider that an insult, ask him to meet me in private, and tell him that I don't appreciate him insulting me in front of other people.
I've worked at a lot of companies, and I have had many lady friends and co-workers. I cannot imagine myself saying that to any of them, under any circumstance.
Maybe you're right to be angry.
As far as the kids, if you can afford it, get the nanny in the morning.
Always remember your children are the true reason you do everything. When you're 85 years old, I don't think Ryan or anybody else from Brazen Carreerist circa 2010 will come visit you and bring you homemade food.
I have 4 year old. He's a pain to deal with. But he's also the reason I get up in the morning. You know?
Posted by Christopher Mahan on 01/12/2010 at 04:01am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hey P, I'm late to the party again.
When working with my clients I've seen 2 reasons for anger issues that rise above all others.
1. Expectations. You carry around a set of expectancies all day long, expectancies about what should happen, what people should do, how they should do it and what they shouldn't do. When something crosses that expectancy set – and the easiest example is losing your temper in traffic – you feel like you've been wronged. Get to know your expectancy set and figure out what's unrealistic. 90% of your expectancy set is nonsense.
2. Pain. All too often our anger sits on top of hurt. Something from the past that you haven't quite dealt with that still hurts a part of yourself. When someone pushes that button that threatens to tap into that pain, your automatic defence mechanism is anger. Anger sits on top of pain, so the question is, what hurts?
You might have a mixture of these or just one, take a look.
Noticing that patterns is where you open up different choices.
Posted by Steve Errey - The Confidence Guy on 01/12/2010 at 04:59am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I don't know what wigs me out more: the fact that every single anger management issue you describes also describes me (I should be used to this by now), or the fact that if you go through your post and replace "son" with "husband" you'd describe my life (and infuriating morning routine).
Posted by Alora on 01/12/2010 at 10:59am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I know this isn't what you meant, but your comment gave me a picture of a husband throwing a snow pants fit. ;)
Posted by Jill on 01/12/2010 at 11:50am | permalink | Reply to this comment
The Heartfruit link was interesting. Reading the comments was discouraging, though — all those posts about going vegan and staying away from grain too. (Hey, Sherlock! People in hunter-gatherer societies eat meat — lots of meat! They have a high-protein, high-fat diet and they tend to die young. And they eat honey when they can get it! So much for sugar being only a product of agriculture.)
There may be something "narcotic" about cereal grain, but I'm inclined to think it's just a side-effect of being well-fed. People switched to agriculture and animal husbandry when they could because it beat being just a week from famine; in the summer, that's how long it takes hunters without refrigeration to run out of food as their stored meat gets all maggoty.
Posted by Jim C. on 01/12/2010 at 02:51pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
People in hunter-gatherer societies didn't die all that young. We assume that because the low life expectancy of grain-based foods was improved so much in this last 100 years by drugs. Prior to grains, people were much more robust and healthier.
Posted by auntiegrav on 01/12/2010 at 04:49pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow. I just found your site yesterday and this post was something to read.
I told a coworker about it this morning, telling him (he's an older, very old fashioned person) that I think the reason people enjoy reading what you write is because you're honest in a way that most people would never be. Oh, that and the fact that others will be able to identify with you, but at the same time feel relieved because we're not as "bad" as you are.
We know that you definitely have a problem with anger. Here is my advice. Don't use the f-bomb or say shut up (practice is the only way to get this down). If your kids are yelling, screaming or whining and you start doing it back at them, it may temporarily release the pressure, but ultimately, you're losing control of the situation – and your kids can tell (even if it's on some subconscious level). Explain exactly what behavior on your kids' part is making things worse and what you need from them. Repeat yourself every time the problem comes up (eg., Remember, you need to put on socks before you come down for breakfast. I get frustrated/mad when we are constantly running late and this is your job in the morning.).
I believe that people can change. But I also think that it's important to accept yourself the way you are. There will always be some part of your life or personality to improve upon. But the dream of being some Leave it to Beaver mom just isn't going to be the reality for many of us. That's okay, as long as we know that we're still pretty good and that we refuse to beat ourselves up for not being perfect.
Remember the important part. You want your kids to feel loved, have fun and grow up healthy – mentally, emotionally and physically. Ask yourself if you're doing the right things to accomplish this, not whether you measure up to June Cleaver.
Posted by Dawn on 01/12/2010 at 04:34pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
My dad has anger management issues and yelled a lot when I was a kid- actually, he still yells a lot. No matter what anyone says to try to make you feel better about yourself, when you fly off the handle in front of your kids it is scary. Don't sugar coat it or pretend it's not a big deal. If you want to use the f word, then use it in private to say f the waffles and the perfectionism (but don't say it in front of the kids).
Kids respond to your emotional state. When my dad yelled it was scary for me. When he did it in front of my friends it was embarrassing. It did affect my self-esteem and made me really shy. So yes, when you lose control and yell like that, it is scary for them and it is hurtful. Get it under control. Find other ways to manage your frustration, but whatever you do, don't lose it and start screaming at your kids like that.
Posted by angie on 01/12/2010 at 04:42pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Take a bit of advice from the one who was on the bottom of the pile of dead bodies all the time: If the young one is crying about going to school every day..there's something wrong with school, not the kid or you.
Some kids are smarter or more sensitive than cogs in a corporate wheel. Find a way to do something else, like virtual school or homeschool or just a different school.
Embrace your anger, but don't use it as a 'release', because there is no such thing. Getting good at anger just makes you think you like it. The only time you should be mad enough to say "fuck" is when you are talking to the school that teaches everything except living. Be a rebel. Keep all of them home for a snow week and let the System of systems go to hell while you figure out what people are for, and how you and your kids are going to be useful to the planet and the species in the future. School won't help with that. If school is teaching it, then humans probably don't need it: corporations do.
Posted by auntiegrav on 01/12/2010 at 04:44pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
As a mom who's kids are ALWAYS late for school, I have decided not to care too much about tardiness too much. I mean, I tell them it is important to be on time, but when they are grown, they are already going to have the unpleasant memory of being late for school almost every day. I don't want them to have even more unpleasant memories by yelling about it all the time.
Posted by Grace on 01/12/2010 at 06:51pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Since the yelling doesn't work anyway.
Posted by Grace on 01/12/2010 at 06:52pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I think you're too hard on yourself. You have a (probably more than) full-time job but being a mom is 24/7. There are certain aspects of life, like motherhood, you can't get away from, which is why I don't have kids. I don't think I could handle being a mother.
Everyone gets stressed out sometimes. Some of us, myself included, need to verbally let off some steam. It's okay to swear. Hey, it's even okay to swear around your kids sometimes. You know they'll hear it eventually. But I think if you take the time to explain to them later on, when everyone is calm, why you were mad, it will be okay.
Posted by Amy Kelly on 01/12/2010 at 07:22pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I don't read this blog all the time so I may have missed something but why does a woman who blogs for a living need to get to an office by 7:30 am? I thought some of the advantages of a supposedly flexible career are that mothers could begin their work days at a sane time, achieve better work/family balance, and suffer less stress for themselves and their children. That being said, if I were yelling the f word at my children on a regular basis, I'd give up the perfect mommy fantasies and hire a morning nanny in a heartbeat.
Posted by Janet on 01/12/2010 at 10:37pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
The boss (and Penelope is the founder and one of the bosses) has to be at work early.
Posted by Jim C. on 01/13/2010 at 09:14am | permalink | Reply to this comment
If Penelope is one of the bosses, all the more reason to change the office cultural norm to something that works better for her. Like an 8:30 am start time. And yes, I'd say the same thing about male bosses.
Posted by Janet on 2010-01-13 16:38:25 | (Comments wont nest below this level)
Janet– if you come back–you'll soon see that there's so much that doesn't add up. But the stories are better this way. Next week–invasion of giant beavers at the Trunk house.
Posted by Belinda Gomez on 01/18/2010 at 06:20pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
The detailed checklists are a great idea. Effective list-making is a valuable skill that your kids can use their whole lives.
Posted by Pinky on 01/13/2010 at 02:16am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I love this post. I am having trouble keeping my thoughts to myself at work. It isn't good, I know. The frustration level gets too high and then it seeps out of my pores. Sometimes it isn't a seep but rather an explosion. I have butterflies in my stomach this morning about walking into my office. I should add to my list of resolutions, TO SHUT UP! Great post, thanks!
Posted by Betsy on 01/13/2010 at 05:14am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I found a link to this blog in "What Matters Now". I have no idea who Penelope Trunk is, but I thought I would read the first post to see what she is about. I was more intrigued by the Asperger Syndrome than anything. I still can't stop laughing from reading this post. Everything seemed so normal and calm at first. It just seemed like a mom talking about her day to day struggle with anger when it comes to her kids. But, when she told her son to "Shut the fuck up with the crying", I lost it! I'll be checking the posts here often now.
Posted by C.J. on 01/13/2010 at 06:36am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Check out Calhoun.org. They have a chef (Chef Bobo) who prepares great organic lunches so no packing lunchboxes anymore. He teaches children about food, trains chefs, writes and other schools are picking up on the concept!. Everything can be done for the same amount of money either schools spend on terrible junk food lunches or parents on whatever lunch they pack or buy on the way to school. It's worth it!
Healthier children, better behaved parents, and you can even have breakfast at school!
Posted by Mascha on 01/13/2010 at 06:36am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hey, PT, I was just thinking …. what DO you do for stress management? I'm asking because one of the best things I ever did was to let myself get talked into taking martial arts. Now, when things get to the exploding point, I go outside and break boards, do punch drills, or kick a target mitt until the anger and stress are dissipated and I am "sane" again. This might be a help to you, and if you had your sons train as well, the discipline and respect that they learn in the dojo would probably spill over into daily life. It did for me and my kids. We're still not perfect, but things are definitely better.
Posted by Editormum on 01/13/2010 at 08:45am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Not sure if you've posted about this previously but I think you should seriously consider taking a management class if this continues to be a problem for you. A friend it did it a few months ago and she's much better now.
Posted by Tarsha on 01/13/2010 at 09:21am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Haha, I agree that anger management can come in handy for any parent… Nice blog, I like the way you write!
Posted by Sebastian on 01/14/2010 at 10:53am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Ditto! I can't help but laugh out loud sometimes reading through some of these posts. I truly enjoy Penelope's style.
Posted by Dario Montes de Oca on 03/02/2010 at 03:00am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Hi Penelope,
Have you ever tried meditation for anger management? If not, I recommend looking into Vipassana. http://www.dhamma.org It's a 10-day silent meditation retreat. Yes, 10 days, and silent. Seems impossible, but it's not. 10 days is nothing considering the number of days we spend angry, frustrated, unhappy, etc. And the silence is refreshing.
It has changed my life and many others. And it basically helps you do all the things you've been trying to do, but at a much deeper level. If you have any questions, I'm happy to share my experiences. But the only way to know is to try it yourself.
Jung
Posted by Jung Fitzpatrick on 01/18/2010 at 06:46pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Nice article, thanks for the information.
Posted by Nathan Rodriguez on 01/26/2010 at 09:13pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Some of the major keypoints to sort out your anger problem. Great post…i will focus on the things which i was not! :)
Posted by News on 01/28/2010 at 01:59am | permalink | Reply to this comment
Really useful advise is deep breathing to regulate stress.
I had tried it before in tennis, and now it helps me in parenting. Thank you
Posted by kambariunuomavilniuje on 02/19/2010 at 07:34am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I laughed and @ the same time felt sad reading this post. It reminded me of being a kid way back and the reasons why I just can't stand kids and the thought of having some in the future.
I'm known to NAG and get worked up easily in such a way that my face alone, when I'm angry, can make a baby shut up instantly ;).
Here's to hope in finding that perfect solution to successfully handling our anger issues.
Posted by Udegbunam Chukwudi on 02/23/2010 at 12:50am | permalink | Reply to this comment
I like this list. #7, in particular, was an eye-opener for me. This serves as a great source to start building relationships with others.
Posted by Chaves Angles on 02/25/2010 at 08:31pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
And this is my almost every morning with a bipolar/ADHD kid. Down to the trying to regulate and failing after about 30 seconds. And changing my clothes three times. Hello, its nice to meet you, because I think you are me. Except I'm not a famous blogger and shit like that. And I don't date a farmer. Yet. I don't date yet.
Posted by BarnMaven on 03/01/2010 at 08:18pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
Wow, this was a great article. In the the Motor City where I live, tensions have been high for so long. #4 really caught my eye.. People need to understand that tomorrow, is going to be different. Once that occurs, the need to accept the notion that everything will not be the same. That to me is where people need to wake up. Everyday is going to be different, and we need to roll with the punches.
Posted by Randy Palmer on 03/01/2010 at 11:34pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I like to reserve curse words for releasing steam when I am really angry. The words lose their power when used all the time. People who know me know that if they hear me swear, that I am really angry, but using the word actually releases the anger.
Posted by Robin Boddy on 03/02/2010 at 02:27pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
good tips
Posted by Chris on 03/02/2010 at 11:40pm | permalink | Reply to this comment
I like to use tony robbins 7 day "postive challange"
Helped me out a lot although I've never made it past day 5 but the main thing is…
You have to stay postive no matter what for 7 days in a row and if any negative thoughts enter your mind you can only keep it no longer than 5 mintues and if you do the challange starts over
Posted by Tyre Coleman on 03/03/2010 at 08:47am | permalink | Reply to this comment