
The last company I founded, Brazen Careerist, was full of Gen Yers. In fact, for a while, I was the only person in the company older than 25. I spent a lot of time learning to adapt. Fast. And the whole time I thought to myself: I can’t wait until these kids need to adapt to the next generation. I want them to know what it feels like.
At this point, the oldest in Generation Z are just turning 13, and we have enough information about the two demographics to predict what will happen. Aside from my case of schadenfreude, I’m particularly interested in Generation Z because my sons are smack in the middle of it. But also I’m interested because if we understand the impact the next generation will have on the workforce, we’re better able to adapt our own careers for it. So get ready:
1. In generational conflict Generation Y will hide.
All generations have conflict between each other. But conflict is really bad for Generation Y because they hate conflict. They are the generation that moves home with their parents because they get along so well, and they apologize for quitting because they can’t cope with disappointing their boss. Generation Y is sunny, upbeat, and non-confrontational. Which means that Generation Z, raised by pragmatic, confrontational Gen X parents, will think Gen Y are lame. Weak. Delusional. (Which are the negative traits of kind and non-confrontational.)
2. Gen Z will lead Gen Y almost immediately.
Gen Y hates to stand out. Their idea of leadership is leading from the middle. Or pretending people don’t like leaders. This has not been a problem for them because Gen X doesn’t want to lead. Gen X just want to go home to their kids. So the only people providing top-down leadership at work right now are Baby Boomers who refuse to retire and exist miles and miles from the cutting edge of everything except the new retirement.
So there will be a power vacuum when Gen Z enters the workforce, and they will take it over very quickly. All they’ll need to do is say, “I want to lead.” No one will challenge them. And, conveniently, Strauss and Howe point out that generational tendencies are cyclical, and Generation Z is poised to lead. They grew up in a time of turmoil: economic demise, war, rampant, random shootings. Generation Z will take charge, create stability, keep everything in line.
3. The passion problem will be passe.
Gen Y is immobilized by their need to “do what they love”. Their Boomer parents instilled in them the fairy tale idea that passion should guide what they do. But Baby Boomers have never had this, except when they were unemployed at Woodstock, and their impractical, dreamer career advice has left their kids unable to make decisions. Gen Y has a passion problem. But this will end when Gen Z comes on board.
First of all, Generation Z will be the education generation. They will have been homeschooled at a rate we have never seen before, so they will be great at identifying what they like. Generation Y, on the other hand, was schooled by teachers who told them what to study to ace the test, and parents hired tutors to help, which means Gen Y is particularly good at taking tests and bad at figuring out what they like. Generation Z will fill the gap and simply tell Generation Y what to do.
Generation Z will give meaning to work in a way that Gen Y has talked about but has been incapable of achieving. Work will be about creating a national sense of stability. Work will be about helping families to adjust to the new economic realities. Work will be about helping people build new paths through adulthood that do not focus on the corporation. Gen Z has been priming for this their whole lifes, with their counter-culture, Gen X parents.
4. Gen Z will out-communicate Gen Y.
Right now, Gen Y are the best communicators at work. They are the first generation to be taught social skills at work, and they are genuinely kind and concerned about people. Additionally Gen Y are the first generation who grew up writing for a massive audience, even as kids, and they are the generation with the best writing skills in history.
This will all seem old-fashioned, though, when Gen Z is on the scene. Gen Z communicates largely through video. They use YouTube like it’s Google. For example, when they want to know how to beat a video game, they search online for a video to tell them: no reading.
Teenaged boys are giving video game lectures to thousands of other kids. Teenaged girls are political activists who have their own video platform before they’re thirteen years old. The poise Gen Z has in front of the camera will translate to workplace confidence and charisma. This will be the age of verbal communication rather than written, and Gen Z will shine.
5. Gen Z will force Gen Y to live more in reality.
Gen Y’s obsession with travel is rooted in their acute need to feel special and different and document it in a way their friends approve of. Also, Gen Y has no money, so they are forced to say they value experience above possessions since they can’t afford possessions beyond their de rigeur Apple equipment and marked-down high-end purchases they self-define with.
Jan Chipchase is a great example of the travel-is-everything mentality; he does brag tweets about his job that is nearly 100% travel. Another example: Gen Y brides who forgo the wedding and just splurge on a big trip and a photographer to document the dress in an exotic location. Gen Y lives on Facebook and Instagram, and their reality is whatever is in the photo.
Generation Z is over the photography thing already. Every gadget they have has a camera. Their parents have documented their every move, and they are expecting to have no disposable income, so they won’t’ need to post photos justifying their existeence.
So Gen Z will shine a light on Gen Y and expose a lot that Gen Y hasn’t seen before. But the truth is that every generation keeps the generation before them more honest. In the end, I’m grateful for the Gen Yers who worked with me, and forced me to see myself differently. I am less cynical and more sunny becuase I was surrounded by Gen Yers.
And they will be better, too, once they get over the shock of someone younger than them in the mix.
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Hi Penelope,
Great post – but I completely disagree. You have it completely wrong.
All relationships are 2-way. Both sides have to adjust in order for the relationship to work. I understand that older generations feel like they are the only ones who have had to adapt, but it just simply isn’t true. I find it contradictory that you say that older generations have had to change to the point where it is a negative thing for you – but then you say that Gen Y gets along too well with their parents… a generation that actually LIKES their parents is a generation that is much more in tune with older generations and one that will be happy to work with you to make a company or the world a better, more successful place.
Gen Y comes from a generation where their parents instilled responsibility in them. As kids, they often scheduled their own doctor’s appointments, dentist appoints, etc. If they need additional help on school work, they help found a tutor. They discuss with their parents and we proceeded. They were put in charge, they are go-getters. Look at all of the startups that are coming from the Gen Y generation!
But in the working world, they are forced to fit into the “old way” of doing things. The old way is hierarchical and based off of paying dues. It is not based as much on the value that you bring. It isn’t based on merit. Gen Y feels suffocated because they are fully capable of doing great things, and many have when given the chance. But they are constantly being pushed down by Gen X and Baby Boomers who feel like Gen Y has to pay their dues just like everyone else, the way it has always been. But, if Gen Y is performing at a higher level and producing better results than everyone else, is this really the best solution for the company? Therein lies Gen Y’s frustration. They want to help and to lead but they are not given the opportunity.
Which brings us to leadership. I can see where you believe Gen Y leads from the middle. But that isn’t really what it is about at all. Gen Y is not afraid to lead. The difference between Gen Y and other generations is Gen Y knows that ideas can come from anyone. You don’t have to be a dictatorial leader and force your ways and ideas upon anyone else. Gen Y believes in listening to others because great ideas come from the masses and from diversity. They like to lead, but they believe that true leadership comes from working TOGETHER.
Finding their passion is an important characteristic of Gen Y. And yet, Gen Y is not only able to pursue their passions, but they also hold down full-time careers and they are highly accomplished in those careers. Look at all of the blogs created by Gen Yers pursuing and discussing their passions while being highly successful in their careers. Isn’t this a good thing? Isn’t it good that you can be great at more than just one thing? Does embracing your hobbies and passions not add diversity to the workplace and people’s thought processes? Isn’t this beneficial for us all?
On the communication aspect (and as in many other aspects of your post), you are blurring your lines between Gen Y and Gen Z. All of the greatest YouTube stars are from Gen Y. Gen Y is the generation using Khan Academy. Gen Y learns and teaches on YouTube. YouTube could be considered a top 10 country by population! Who do you think is mostly on those sites? Gen Y! I do expect Gen Z to be better at communication. Each generation is supposed to improve upon the other, that’s how we evolve as a species. But several of your points are very misguided and don’t take into account the whole picture.
Which brings me to the point about money and travel. Let’s tackle travel first. How is travel an issue? Maybe it is time for you to look at the lessons Gen Y brings instead of fearing change. Life is not about working to the bone and then dying. It is about learning about the world, exploring it, getting exposed to cultures and growing your mind and your perspective. There are many lessons you can only learn through travel. Instead of criticizing Gen Y for being more open to experiences and being much less risk adverse and being more proactive, you should understand that maybe the old systems of living don’t work anymore. Who decided that EVERYONE needs to work from 9-5? Why are you asking Gen Y to become complacent just like the previous generations? There are many things in our world that don’t make sense and maybe it is time that we learned to heal our society and be happy! There are many countries in Europe who are thriving and REQUIRE that employees take 4 weeks of vacation in addition to the MANY national holidays. But here we are working to the bone and then at retirement we finally have the time to start enjoying life and traveling at old age – except can we really enjoy ourselves to the fullest when our body and our joints hurt? Just because things are changing does not mean they are wrong.
In terms of Gen Y’s not having money. There are certainly Gen Y’s who have money. But if we are to look at the big picture, you could say that Gen Y is not doing as well economically. But is that really a fault of Gen Y? Or is it the fault of Gen X and the Baby Boomers? Gen Y is going to college, they are getting their degrees. Many are getting Masters, not just Bachelors. They are all hard workers. But you are saying that they have no money because they don’t know what they want and they just want to follow their passion. Uhmm… what about the economy? The recession that we’re in? The one that has a greater supply of Gen Y’s looking for jobs than there is a demand for?
It is great to get the perspective of an older generation but I think it is important that we start learning to see the beauty in each generation instead of criticizing them because they are different or because they are helping you grow.
Posted by Trishna Sharma on January 28, 2013 at 11:00 pm | permalink |
What an eloquent and beautiful reply. I couldn’t agree more, especially on your argument regarding travel. I read a wonderful article a few months back describing Gen Y as a generation of global citizens. We are very globally minded. That’s not a bad thing by any means.
Posted by Sarah on February 1, 2013 at 2:53 am | permalink |
Thanks, Sarah! I love your points as well
Posted by Trishna Sharma on February 1, 2013 at 3:07 pm | permalink |
What a great post all my Yers stepping up and making a stand for our selves when apparently ” we don’t step up and do things like that” Frankly I think this article is ignorant and a huge lack of judgment. Traveling and seeing the world for what it is, is a great thing specially at a young age. I am currently studying in business management and international business “Global Citizens” probably the best term I heard all day. Oh and I’m taking real estate classes in the summer its what us Yers do were good at more then one thing and are always open to something new and understand there are plenty of opportunity’s out there and has nothing to do with not being able to stick to one thing….(boring). Personal I think Penelope is a bit jealous and worried about the generation z because her kids are part of z. We can all learn from each other and the baby boomers and Xers dont understand that. Its either there way or the highway which is extremely ignorant and one minded. Take a look at the new you tube video called kid president where Obama and a little ‘ kid president” come together to show the world that adults can learn from kids and kids can learn from adults. Like I said down below in my post the Yers are disgusted with the way the baby boomers and xers left the country for us and they need to realize we are the ones who are going to pick up the pieces and bring things back to where they need to be which is the reason why traveling and education are huge to us because we have a lot of shoes to fill in and a lot bindings to repair most of us are still in college and still working on building our careers the fact that you admit where one of the best generations for writing alone shows how much potential we have and how well educated the Ys. Poorly said, Poor facts and even more disgusted by the xers after reading this…
Posted by Joe on April 11, 2013 at 2:19 am | permalink |
Haha. This is cute, coming from a Gen Xer (AKA the most obnoxious generation ever).
If you think members of Gen Y are non-confrontational, you must not know very many of us. We didn’t have to be rebellious because we grew up watching you doing that, and how well that worked out for you. At least we won’t be 30 and wishing we were still 20.
I doubt we do know enough about Gen Z to know how they will react; I also think that the Baby Boomers or even the generation before them would be far more insightful when looking at the relationship between Gen Xers and Gen Yers, and the relationship between Gen Yers and Gen Zers. They’re the ones who can sit back and actually observe the differences and similarities without having inane biases about one generation being “better” than another.
Posted by Sarah on February 1, 2013 at 2:48 am | permalink |
This blog is completely biased. Are you feeling ok Penelope? I am not sure why you have so much hate towards Generation Y. We are the generation who grew up with the first “commercial” computers. Education? I am working on my second master’s degree and I am in my late 20′s. Your “opinion” about the passive nature of Generation Y is the only point I can agree with.
Since we seem to be throwing around opinions left and right here is mine. Generation Z will be very similar to Generation Y. Generation Z’s success will be dependent entirely on Generation X and Y.
Besides, it’s far too soon to be passing judgment. The oldest ‘Gen Z’er’ alive is only 13 years old. Perhaps, its best to wait for Generation Z to become an active part of society
Posted by dnautics on February 2, 2013 at 9:47 pm | permalink |
Dear Penelope,
I’m a Gen Y, high educated (Master’s degree in Engineering, B.Sc Eng and currently studying a MBA), entrepeneur and ex-employee of Gen X. Let me tell you something, YOU Gen X envy us. You haven’t reach leadership you’ve always been the shadow of baby boomers, and you afraid us. Gen Z’s wouldn’t survive against us, because we’re inventing a new world, new jobs, new workforce, we are highly educated, so what could do they against us?
You wrote that we avoid conflict, for the love of science my dear!! justify that scientifically (if you know how to do it).
With all the respect you deserve,
Don’t be so resentful about our actual success and future leadership
Sincerely, Gen Y’er
Posted by Alex on February 3, 2013 at 8:13 am | permalink |
To think Generation Z is going to differ much from Y at all is a delusion I think you have created so you can convince yourself your kids wont turn out to be huge failures like Generation Y. Both generations were raised by the internet and the social norm is now non-confrontation. Want to break up with someone? Text it. Want to vent about your political views from the safety of your room? Youtube it. Generation X and the Baby boomers screwed Generation Y out of any chance to prosper in the business world. So all Generation Y can do is try to keep a positive attitude. Generation Z will try to help Generation Y put the economy back together but it will all be in vain. They will curse the old farts who put them in this impossible predicament. Society will collapse, the internet will die and the circle of life will go on. I’ll see you in the thunderdome!
Posted by Generation Y on February 3, 2013 at 8:58 am | permalink |
Xenophobe, I’m not Gen Y and I tell you all this using a description is not racist explaining to people something they don’t understand is pointless you can say you’re well travelled but I’m guessing you’ve been 2 maybe 3 cities in your own country and claim well travelled, I’ve worked with people onshore offshore in the desert in zones where travel is limited by air support these people are from all over the world yes they are great people and all but when I get back home there are people that are stagnant and not great they Fester in the their segregated community’s isolated from other races their only values they are within theft and rape violence destruction and hatred for the people that are natural to that area,
I am so sick and tired of YOUR racist Xenophobe we have serious problems not being addressed because people want to dance about the issue trying to be polite while they destroy and rape like a Virus spreading outwards they’re is no cure other than removal these people you know who they are yet you want to deny it so your all hipster with your iPhone all environmental you believe that lie that there should be a tax from carbon emissions, Simply Fess up to what you really believe and stop fooling your self these people are not minority’s They’re invading and they will destroy your way of life they don’t want to escape what was bad where they came from they only bring all that with them and their offspring are worse then they as they grasp the language better and understand people fear saying anything because it seems racist so they steal and rape and torture in the name of their religion when caught they say they’re being persecuted for their faith
WAKE UP THE INVASION started awhile ago it was not soldiers at the gate with guns they want to breed us out.
Posted by Killjoy on February 3, 2013 at 9:27 am | permalink |
Don’t you think my generation has had enough belittling and badgering? We are not having it very easy and I am nothing like you generalize me to be. My mother did teach me to be passionate and live to be happy. That is because she is a liberal. I grew up and saw the real world. I am now conservative. Liberals love to rely on the institution. That is why they encourage their kids to get a degree in something they love and they will be successful. Just get C’s they’d say. C’s get degrees. Whichever generation becomes the most conservative and the fastest will be the leaders after the last of the scumbag baby boomers have left. Growing up with you guys have left most of us with mental problems by the way; Divorce, alcoholism, immorality.. By the way the reason we do not learn anything in school is because the professors are all you guys. Your idea of an education is to indoctrinate us all to believe in the same hippy policies you guys have been preaching since the Haight Ashbury opened your little drugged out minds. Yeah your time is coming. It is right around the corner. Soon you will be gone and no one will miss you. That plastic surgery does not even make you look pretty. It makes you look like cat women and those puppets that ventriloquists use. You are going to die ugly just like your souls. There will also be a party. We all have job openings yeah!!!! Unless you plan on allowing more illegal immigrants into this country before you are gone. That would really put the icing on the cake. You will have truely destroyed America then. Not our fault look in the mirror.
Posted by ctom9 on February 7, 2013 at 1:43 am | permalink |
Oh to be a member of Generation Y.. Sometimes I think we should be renamed “The Scapegoat Generation”. We get belittled so much by the older generations and are constantly reminded about how things apparently used to be better in their day. I suppose respect for elders is more important than civil rights (am I right, boomers?) I can see how people might mistake our politeness to authority for submissive passiveness , but I think most of us understand that if you want to succeed, you sometimes gotta smile and hide your resentment. We learned from X the uselessness of rebelling without a cause, and we learned from the vets and the boomers that corporations usually don’t see us as much more than expendable paychecks, so why should we break our backs for them? Also at least half of generation Y grey up in the conflicts you mentioned. I was about 10 I think when 9/11 happened, and 16 when we went into an economic turmoil. I highly doubt most of Z remembers any of that. Just my 2 cents. Peace.
Posted by Alex on February 7, 2013 at 10:06 pm | permalink |
I completely agree with this comment.
Posted by Courtney on March 1, 2013 at 4:42 am | permalink |
You very obviously are a gen X with Z kids.
Posted by Aida on February 8, 2013 at 6:10 pm | permalink |
Sound to me like the author would rather attack gen y because her children are in gen z. if this is true, then she’ll be contributing a bit to the decline in the discipline that we see in every generation; all because she’d rather see her gen z kids as angels that can do no wrong.
Posted by SlimJimmi on February 13, 2013 at 8:22 am | permalink |
Penelope you remind me a lot of the other gen X parents that I deal with on a daily basis who are all convinced that their children will change the world. My parents, boomers, we’re very much in the camp of praising your child for everything they did. It made for a harsh reality for me when I was thrown into the world as an adult and suddenly had to deal with reality. What I see gen x doing is even scarier, you aren’t just praising your children you are expecting greatness out of your children. Gen Z is disconnected. They are even more narcissistic than us gen Yers. What Gen Y might actually succeed in doing that the boomers destroyed is bringing back the value of the family unit.
Posted by Kel on February 14, 2013 at 12:44 am | permalink |
Bitch
Posted by Sam on February 15, 2013 at 12:07 am | permalink |
Giving up on Gen Y already? We’re in our prime right now and if we don’t stand up now, then Gen-Z doesn’t have a fighting chance. We need to collectively change our mindset and be proactive in our own lives.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drn0s6mhWSM
Posted by Rich Hebron on February 20, 2013 at 2:04 pm | permalink |
I’m 20, I guess I’m a Gen Y.
Our cyclical patterns have been disrupted by the poisonous educational and societal environment for our children. Gen Z may come out with computer savvy expertise and a fresh opposition to the boomers views, but they are also tainted by the oversexed, over-leisure, and unrealistic behavior of their parents coupled with a massive lack of habits of productivity.
It really doesn’t matter though, hands down, the boomer generation annihilated the future of all Western generations to come – The massive economical expansion and a complete disregard for the finite resource bases that the entire system is based on will negate any aggregate generational views. How is it that not one boomer can come out raging about the fact that we are using our resources at too fast of a rate to continue our civilization?
SOME Gen Z’s may come out real smart, but it scales with how much their parent’s would have let them be. Boomers and Old Gen Y’s are terrible over-parents, and will destroy their children’s sense of intuition and independence. Many Gen Y and Gen Z’s will adopt a learned helplessness of society, gain mass anxiety turned hysteria, and hate the boomers no matter what, due to the economical disregard of future generations.
In fact, boomers should have most their social security benefits taken for the sustainability of the future generations.
Posted by Ben on February 21, 2013 at 9:22 am | permalink |
In the past, when the aggregate flow of information per country (or per society), was steady and rather slow, these generational cycles had huge influence. In other words, without the huge jump in the ability to collect information and learn that came from the internet and modern media, many character traits were left to the person’s view of the preceding generation. E.g. We know not to back our entire lifestyle with our mortgage like the boomers, as that is unrealistic, unsustainable, and inconsiderate to our children and all descendants.
We see this manifest in economic crisis, the 2008 crash which was encouraged by consumer debt and failed housing speculation took ~40% of my education fund. Not that the education market is healthy anymore, the institutions run like businesses now and have incentive to have people join any degree program, rather than programs which correspond to the future job market in the country.
This entire problem is clouded by our resource depletion – which demands immediate population control and super-organized lifestyle logistics, e.g. pure socialism, sustainable development, etc, due to the horrible ignorance of the boomers and their parent’s in not understanding the rate at which our usage of finite resources climbs as we developed.
And while the future possibility of hundreds of human generations were blatantly wiped from all plausibility, you were probably whining about some stupid personal financial peril. E.g. not being able to buy your second SUV or the summer cottage. What the hell was the point of that when your kids will be selling their bodies for resources and your dollar will be too inflated, and your arm too weak, to help them live an enjoyable existence.
Time have changed. It is quite blatant, to all generations after Gen X, that they have completely taken advantage of an unrealistic system, and have left the future of humanity with barrel scrapings. If your a boomer and you have an opinion, please just keep it too yourself, as the opinion did not take into account your horrible ignorance. All boomers have a huge negativity complex, and need to blame problems on others or they will ignore them, hands down, hence your tone against Gen Y’s.
Can you accept that your unrealistic financial habits completely destroyed the possibility of prosperity for your children’s future? And the mass spending of all boomers alike made such a consumerist and advertizement-plagued society that your kids heads are probably mush do to the constant bs they are subject to? Of course, on the other hand, they probably see through it, they can probably see through the baby boomer bs, and they will in time see through you, and loose respect for you, do to an ignorance to obvious problems.
Posted by Ben on February 21, 2013 at 9:57 am | permalink |
I don’t want to leave too much negativity, even though that is all you left us, I do believe it is wrong to put others in that state.
Your kids won’t live a normal life, the time to come will be highly unpredictable and unrealistically difficult to adapt to. There’s a few things you can do to ensure a better life for your kids.
- Make sure they are independent and intuitive, NOT bookworms. You want your kids to be able to think of the solution with no resources needed, as opposed to needing a “book” (or factoids) to regurgitate for every situation they get themselves into. This is best done by.. leaving them be! Don’t tell them to do homework at some time, barely help them, leave the house in their control for long periods of time, get angry at them and teach them discipline. This is important for their growth. People forget that we are designed to be running through the jungle naked looking for food, we miss out on some skills by not doing that.
- Master petty survival skills. Theft, cooking, food storage, hunting, foraging, farming, basic construction (engineering), mechanical expertise (for device repairs), siphoning, fire-making, martial arts, charisma, good dietary understanding, first aid, panic psychology, firearms, camouflage, intelligence gathering, geography, lock picking,
- Get them to a suitable location. Need a freshwater watershed, southern states or a isolated watershed. Also want temperate climate, no permafrost, arable land. Need low human density, high biodiversity for food resources, and a rugged terrain to deter other survivors from venturing in.
- Need a small, well-organized survival crew with only enough women to ensure continuity of bloodline. Females are more so designed to care for the child directly while the father is for the gathering or indirect care. This circumstance we’ve made contradicts this, so we need to protect the women more aggressively and thus reduce the numbers to a 1:1 ratio if that.
- Most importantly, you’ll need to induce a dominant sense of logic in them, where they realize and respect the fact that emotional and instinctive behaviour is detriment to the their survival now. In the past, instincts created survival, but now you’ll have to be logical to make use of the available resources super-efficiently, while also being able to let go of others much easier, as the coming time will be one of population management.
Goodluck to yourself and your family.
Posted by Ben on February 21, 2013 at 10:31 am | permalink |
I always laugh when I hear people talk about how great young people are with technology. Our country has been on a 50 year decline in technical education and ability. When I was in high school, I wrote my own video games. The young gen Y programmers I work with – college grads – are befuddled by pointers. Our high-tech industries are filled with stupid fads and project management “gurus” who pish-posh at the notion of sitting down to think about how software should be designed as a waste of time, and pitch dangerously stupid ideas about how to produce critical systems. And what is the result? Our country’s best fighter jet is BILLIONS over budget, and has design flaws that kill our own pilots. We can’t build rockets to reach our own (20 year old) space station anymore. We rely on importing engineering students from foreign countries to keep our university science and engineering departments staffed.
This is nonsense. The kids are not alright. Piss poor discipline and dishonesty from the parents. Stupid, airheaded children who don’t pull their weight on the job or in the classroom. Ask some old teachers about how the kids are today compared to when they started.
Posted by VisitorX on February 22, 2013 at 8:34 pm | permalink |
Interesting but I do differ with you on some points.
I’m part of Gen Y (born 1991) and the “passion problem” of our generation does resonate with me but not in the way that you might think. I had older parents and so was raised by baby boomers, but my mother had given up her low-level jobs in my childhood – she had an opportunity to go into education and get a career she was passionate about (a high school teacher) in her 40s.
I would argue that the “passion problem” is something that the older generation that raised Gen Y has pressured onto us. “You have so many opportunities nowadays [not actually true] compared to back when I was your age, do something you love instead of the crappy jobs I had to work!”
It’s not necessarily a bad thing, but my parents were very insistent that I didn’t have to do what they had to do in their youth, and to grasp onto opportunities (higher education) so I could get ahead. They wanted me to get a passion-filled career and/or a job that pays tons of money.
The problem is that in their day an undergrad degree would have shot them to the top of their post-graduation jobs, but nowadays it’s the level of education everyone’s expected to have.
Gen Y has been pressured by parental figures to stand out even if we’re average (see: our internet culture borderlining on self-celebrity) and do something we love. But I, and many of my friends, don’t care about standing out and also don’t care about what job we have as long as there’s /something/ there that’s good, and that getting any job is a good thing in our economy.
If I end up with an average, entry-level type job with not much to recommend it except that the people there are really great to work with, that’s good enough for me. Or if I had a boring job with nothing else to recommend it except that it pays steadily and pretty well, that’s good enough for me. Etc. Etc. Not everything has to be amazing, but as long as /something/ is good, it’s good enough. I’d be happy to stay there and work and hopefully get promoted somewhere down the line. I can channel my passions into my personal life. But I know that if I do this (and likely will), it’ll disappoint my parents because they would want to me to do something solely creative instead of sporadically putting my creative talents into a non-creative job.
They’ve told us to aim for the best, the most passion-filled projects, that anything else is settling for less. But I think much of Gen Y now see that taking any job you can get in this economy is good, that at least you have a job, at least you’re making a steady income.
And as a generation I think we are moral. We do like to compete but here’s the thing: we don’t like winning if it’s at the expense of someone else.
The reason we don’t like hierarchy is that it gives some people leeway to treat others like garbage with no consequence. After all, where has ultra-competitiveness and hierarchy in business gotten us? It gave us this tanking economy, for a start. Rich people on the top of the food chain have basically gambled entire livelihoods away – so I don’t see why your generation is so enamoured with these traits when they’ve caused so many people so much grief. But I digress.
We are morality-centred and a very empathetic generation (how can we not be when everyone’s stories are on the internet for us to see and put a name and a face to?) which is why competitiveness is less of a ‘thing’ for us I think.
Sorry for the length of this comment. Your post was very interesting and did give me food for thought. I do think it’s a little too early to assign such important characteristics to Gen Z-ers, I think it depends who is raising them as well, Gen X or Gen Y, but I guess we’ll see!
Posted by Courtney on March 1, 2013 at 4:15 am | permalink |
if Generation Z thinks Generation Y are lame, weak, and delusional, then Generation Y as well should have the same mind set. Since Generations Y as well has been raised by the “pragmatic, confrontational Gen X parents”.
Posted by Abdul Rmih on March 3, 2013 at 4:49 pm | permalink |
I agree with Bill, generation X will be a nothing but some third world migrants and will be living in slums. I mean look at generation Y most of us do drugs and are dirt poor thanks to Obama what makes you think anything can get better theirs no God so theirs nothing to make anything better. Gen. X will just be as worse nothing but obese dumb wited drug addicted assiodine fouls. The goverment sucks North Korea what’s to nuke us China wants to invade the United States. Obama does shit to help he’s nothing more than a second Hover plus Obama what’s Gen.X to all of the U.S.’s debts and Obama what’s the Miliatary Budget to be cut which leads to weaker Miliatary he just answered China’s dreams. Gen. X will be lazier, More drug addicted &,more people won’t be able to go a second without a cookie or Technology I don’t care if its racist or offensive to you but the truth is the truth I study this stuff I went to Harverd any if you are afended Gen.X wasn’t born yet when they are Gen.Y won’t even be alive. So suck it up. Many of are grandchildren will be Gen.X it is subsected that at this point Gen.X will be the most uneducated & most short lived in history. We figured out that a majority of Gen.Y will live longer then the the last Generation but Gen.X we astimite will live to be in their mid teens to their late 20′s. Where ever the writer of the website got his facts were very wrong…
Posted by Shawn on March 5, 2013 at 8:44 pm | permalink |
I agree with Bill, generation X will be a nothing but some third world migrants and will be living in slums. I mean look at generation Y most of us do drugs and are dirt poor thanks to Obama what makes you think anything can get better theirs no God so theirs nothing to make anything better. Gen. X will just be as worse nothing but obese dumb wited drug addicted assiodine fouls. The goverment sucks North Korea what’s to nuke us China wants to invade the United States. Obama does shit to help he’s nothing more than a second Hover plus Obama what’s Gen.X to all of the U.S.’s debts and Obama what’s the Miliatary Budget to be cut which leads to weaker Miliatary he just answered China’s dreams. Gen. X will be lazier, More drug addicted &,more people won’t be able to go a second without a cookie or Technology I don’t care if its racist or offensive to you but the truth is the truth I study this stuff I went to Harverd any if you are afended Gen.X wasn’t born yet when they are Gen.Y won’t even be alive. So suck it up. Many of are grandchildren will be Gen.X it is subsected that at this point Gen.X will be the most uneducated & most short lived in history. We figured out that a majority of Gen.Y will live longer then the the last Generation but Gen.X we astimite will live to be in their mid teens to their late 20′s. Where ever the writer of the website got his facts is lie because they are very wrong…
Posted by Shawn on March 5, 2013 at 8:47 pm | permalink |
haha you really came at us there Penelope. I dont really appreciate that as someone from Gen Y. Your assuming that everyone in Gen Y doesn’t want to lead, ever. That is a pretty broad assumption.
Posted by rich on March 8, 2013 at 10:26 am | permalink |
This article is complete conjecture and smacks of bias.
How can you comment on an entire generation like this?
Penelope, in my humble opinion, you are wrong.
Posted by john bishop on March 14, 2013 at 10:48 am | permalink |
What I learned from this article: Gen X’ers are even more narcissistic than Baby Boomers.
I didn’t know that trend spotting meant making broad, sweeping generalizations in order to satisfy simplistic(and self-aggrandizing) worldviews. This Gen Y’er is not impressed…
Posted by Tristan on March 21, 2013 at 6:31 am | permalink |
I so hope you’re right! As someone from the tail-end of Generation Y), I get so annoyed by the Gen Y traits you have listed here (being non-confrontational and not wanting to push the Boomers out of leadership, only wanting to “do what they love” without any sense of pragmatism, and the whole “travel the world” thing, especially with Gen Y women).
I suppose I’m different because I was home schooled and always got along better with younger kids.
Posted by INTJ on March 22, 2013 at 1:43 pm | permalink |
So I am the youngest of gen y and about to defend us.
-First off the idear that we are not well travled is true, but keep in mind as soon as we were old enuff to be taken to other countries the economy crashed.
-Then we graduated high school and collage with high honors degrees and had no jobs to be found.
-I want you to see that dose not meen we are not cutlery diverse, because we embrace diversity and atleast where I live, have at least 35 different nationalities represented in my class alone.
-We are not tech savy, that belongs to gen z. We are tech dependent, but have no idear how it works.
-I think the reason we are optimist is because we raised to be. Our parrents told us “do what makes you happy” and “you can be anything you want”.
- As for team work, we had to get along with each other, our numbers suppas the babby boomers. And were on nearly every team sport imaginable over our summers.
-We were sheltered from our parrents as childeren, but things got real when had columbine, 9-11, and economy crashed. We saw our parents who we love struggles and was a reality check to us all.
-As a positive person, I am about to say what I admire about the other generations.
*Gen x and z can cope being alone for vast amounts of time.
*Gen x made all of the new technology we have today.
*Gen z not only understands how technology works, but can creat their own and do it for fun.
*Gen x went outside their confort zone and made us feel welcome in an unwelcoming world.
Only constern for gen z is their interactions face to face. As a y, I embrace it, but they hate it. They are multi taskers not team players. Have fun Gan x watching us have brake downs when they join the work force.
Posted by Abby on March 30, 2013 at 7:20 am | permalink |
Well, i have to point out a few things here, first off that statistically generation y actually have it alot worse than the baby boomers and gen x did. they are the most educated yet under employed generation in history, its not easy for them, when i got out of highschool i was making 11 bucks an hour and my house was 25 grand, i was able to pay entirely for school working part time, and easily save for my house which costed 25 grand, it was a basic home, but better quality then what you would get today here for 300 grand, my daughter got out of highschool making 11 dollars an hour, which is average here with no education, her school costed 20 grand. she got no job. so lets just give the y’ers a little bit of a break here, i know this is not the case for every y’er but statistically their numbers for an easy life are not looking good, its not even close to fair when compared to their parents life, infact their parents are now being called, the luckiest generation. I only worry about generation z tho, atleast gen y was raised before everyone started drugging their kids, so many gen z kids have been hopped up on rediculously damaging and addictive drugs prescribed by doctors called “profesionals” i think they will make an interesting addition to the work force, in a sad humorous kind of way. i do not look forward to training them. the huge percentage of kids in america who are addicted to drugs that literally render them emotionless. they are freakin insane, literally insane and will not have good job preformance. the only hope generation z has is the death of the baby boomers, freeing up soooo many houses and lowering the price. and the only chance for gen y, is the exact same thing. for two different reasons, and yes im generalising, but im speaking statistically, the facts, the numbers, lets stop hating on the next generation all the time and just realise how lucky we were to be baby boomers and gen xers, the average person our age was born right after the bad, right into the good economic times, of relative peace and prosperity, school was cheap, houses were cheap, infact baby boomers and gen xers mostly only gain from gen y’s current suffering, and then only complain that they are lazy or stupid. looks at the facts people, i wouldnt wanna be 22 with loans no job and the most expensive living costs. and i wouldnt wanna be 8 years old and be on ridalin for the last 4 years. because i was lucky, and they are certainly not.
Posted by Zach on April 3, 2013 at 11:38 pm | permalink |
I completely disagree. One society as a whole is “dumbing” down we think were advancing day by day because all of this new technology that is being made when in reality. Smart phones, you tube, Google all these features are being made for us to have a more simple life. Let me ask you this? get a kid from generation Z and see if they can tune a guitar with there ear and on there own and not with their Ipad or Iphone bet they cant. You say Z will pass the Yers because of videos and communicating and learning through you tube instead of Google. Once again wrong…. Whats going to happen if all of a sudden all these programs fail or shut down or even fade out. How will anyone learn how to do anything without teachers and people with experience verses being home schooled. You need to travel the world to see it for what it really is and not what we as the “Middle class” are brainwashed to see it as. Z is going to be stuck in the social media world more then any generation ever. They are going to date more online talk more and text more through screens and phones. They literally will become socially awkward and anti-social more then any other generation. Think about it back when we did not have cell phones Men and women in this country where less awkward had to go up to each other and write there home phone number down and actually put a social effort in dating. Now people are hiding through screens and text no one talks on the phone anymore and dating online is becoming more and more popular. its sickening. The reason why us yers travel and speak about what we would like to do or want to do is because were always open to new opportunities learn new things being happy! and mainly disgusted with how the way things are going on in our economy and disgusted with all these distractions like “Jersey Shore” and every single ridiculous reality TV show. Things aren’t how they are suppose to be. We have people in the U.S complaining everyday of how they struggle and how they are going to pay this next bill and how they are going to get food on the table well meanwhile they have family plans for Iphones drive BMWs and Mercedes Benz. When they don’t realize by just being an american citizen alone is a HUGE advantage. If you become homeless in this country what are you going to do. Go to California or down south to Florida sleep on the beach and when you want to eat people will give you food or you can go to the nearest shelter or food bank and when you want to drink you will go to the nearest water hose and drink all the water you want. When there is little children in other places of the world like Africa and India who starve and walk miles upon miles to get to the nearest well. and families are making upwards of 1-2 american dollars daily. Thats why the yers are the way we are. Thats why we travel. Thats why we live up to every moment and take pictures and share them with our friends. God help the future generations !
Posted by Joe on April 11, 2013 at 1:42 am | permalink |
Penelope Trunk, I would like to point out that you need to be more realistic with your expectations for your son. Generation Z has many many problems of their own should not be over looked, such as health, short attention span, reliance on technology.
Its pointless to brag about you son’s generation now because I’m sure the children of Gen Y will surpass them too. It could just go on and on, so what is the point. And may I point out that the real competition for your sons is not Gen Y but the rest of the Gen X population! Each generation completes amongst themselves. Your home schooled sons will be completing against children who have been to school and learnt to socialize with their peers on a mass level and on a daily basis.
Don’t be sour about having to adapt. Adaptation is part of life, change is the only constant. Us Gen Y know it very well. You should be grateful for you Gen Y employees for keeping you on your toes. In fact you should thank them each for challenging you and hopefully opening your mind just a little bit more.
Posted by cabomba on April 16, 2013 at 7:50 am | permalink |
Sheesh, don’t you think it’s a little early to count us out? And actually it was Generation Y that grew up with the violence and turmoil – Generation Z won’t remember that stuff, they’re too young. Generation Y is the Columbine generation.
I don’t want to feed into this same old bashing of the generation that comes after me. I think it’s way too early to tell with Generation Z. I know they will be spoiled as all get-out.
The children of Gen X are going to be as sheltered and overpraised as Gen Y because Gen X was neglected and dismissed. The children of Gen Y, however, won’t be as overpraised and sheltered because Gen Y’ers will backlash against that.
I don’t think homeschooling is going to be a positive development at all. The average American doesn’t know enough to teach.
Posted by Trash-Talkin' Bout My Generation on May 2, 2013 at 7:37 am | permalink |