Comments on: We overestimate the gap between nonprofit and for-profit jobs http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/10/30/the-shrinking-gap-between-nonprofit-and-for-profit/ Advice at the intersection of work and life Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:26:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Does Your Nonprofit Care about your Personal Development? | Rooting Nonprofits http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/10/30/the-shrinking-gap-between-nonprofit-and-for-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-270685 Does Your Nonprofit Care about your Personal Development? | Rooting Nonprofits Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:34:05 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=4224#comment-270685 [...] Does Your Nonprofit Care about your Personal Development? I think we should all be careful of dividing the world into meaningful non-profits and soulless corporations. Caring for each other has more to do about the people who we report to and manage than the goals of the organization. If your boss comes to work every day genuinely looking to help you grow, and you do the same for the people you manage, then that’s a great workplace. If your boss is a jerk, and you are a jerk, then it’s a terrible place to be. It doesn’t really whether your company is making tons of money or saving lives in Tibet. What we do ourselves—individually, with the people next to us each day—is what establishes meaning in our lives. - Penelope Trunk [...] [...] Does Your Nonprofit Care about your Personal Development? I think we should all be careful of dividing the world into meaningful non-profits and soulless corporations. Caring for each other has more to do about the people who we report to and manage than the goals of the organization. If your boss comes to work every day genuinely looking to help you grow, and you do the same for the people you manage, then that's a great workplace. If your boss is a jerk, and you are a jerk, then it's a terrible place to be. It doesn't really whether your company is making tons of money or saving lives in Tibet. What we do ourselves—individually, with the people next to us each day—is what establishes meaning in our lives. – Penelope Trunk [...]

]]> By: doing good for-profit ≠ selling out! | la petite aventurière http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/10/30/the-shrinking-gap-between-nonprofit-and-for-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-261009 doing good for-profit ≠ selling out! | la petite aventurière Sun, 25 Sep 2011 15:57:38 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=4224#comment-261009 [...] (i.e. health insurance)?  *Note: I’m slightly exaggerating.  See below.  In the words of Penelope Trunk, “Being a non-profit is no excuse for treating people poorly.”  My options for a [...] [...] (i.e. health insurance)?  *Note: I'm slightly exaggerating.  See below.  In the words of Penelope Trunk, "Being a non-profit is no excuse for treating people poorly."  My options for a [...]

]]> By: Chris http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/10/30/the-shrinking-gap-between-nonprofit-and-for-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-250875 Chris Tue, 03 May 2011 21:16:46 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=4224#comment-250875 Totally Agree with what you are staying here! Totally Agree with what you are staying here!

]]> By: Working at a Nonprofit Does Not Equal Social Change | Inspired Practice http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/10/30/the-shrinking-gap-between-nonprofit-and-for-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-226374 Working at a Nonprofit Does Not Equal Social Change | Inspired Practice Sun, 18 Apr 2010 16:09:14 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=4224#comment-226374 [...] made me think of Penelope Trunk’s recent post pointing out that you don’t have to work in a nonprofit to do good. She also said that some nonprofits do more good than others. I took that to mean that some [...] [...] made me think of Penelope Trunk’s recent post pointing out that you don’t have to work in a nonprofit to do good. She also said that some nonprofits do more good than others. I took that to mean that some [...]

]]> By: Top 3 Weekly Blog Posts for Nonprofit Workers « http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/10/30/the-shrinking-gap-between-nonprofit-and-for-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-221666 Top 3 Weekly Blog Posts for Nonprofit Workers « Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:25:13 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=4224#comment-221666 [...] “We overestimate the gap between nonprofit and for-profit jobs” by Penelope Trunk’s Brazen Careerist – This post is a bit older (10/30/09) but [...] [...] "We overestimate the gap between nonprofit and for-profit jobs" by Penelope Trunk's Brazen Careerist – This post is a bit older (10/30/09) but [...]

]]> By: Be the Change: Listening to China « Beyond China's Single Story http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/10/30/the-shrinking-gap-between-nonprofit-and-for-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-218939 Be the Change: Listening to China « Beyond China's Single Story Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:44:15 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=4224#comment-218939 [...] responsibility.  All of these jobs have been related to social change in some sense, regardless of the sector.  My friends here in Beijing have done amazing work in clean transportation, theatre, [...] [...] responsibility.  All of these jobs have been related to social change in some sense, regardless of the sector.  My friends here in Beijing have done amazing work in clean transportation, theatre, [...]

]]> By: Elizabeth http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/10/30/the-shrinking-gap-between-nonprofit-and-for-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-216587 Elizabeth Fri, 18 Dec 2009 01:39:11 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=4224#comment-216587 Thank you so much for this post! I stumbled upon your blog by Googling "Time management" and I got hooked. I currently work in the non-profit sector and I'm looking for something new while still making a difference and having a positive impact upon my community. Thanks for highlighting the fact that there are other options. Thank you so much for this post! I stumbled upon your blog by Googling "Time management" and I got hooked. I currently work in the non-profit sector and I'm looking for something new while still making a difference and having a positive impact upon my community. Thanks for highlighting the fact that there are other options.

]]> By: “Social Entrepreneurship is stupid.” according to Penelope Trunk | Changing Lives http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/10/30/the-shrinking-gap-between-nonprofit-and-for-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-216473 “Social Entrepreneurship is stupid.” according to Penelope Trunk | Changing Lives Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:10:06 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=4224#comment-216473 [...] heart of her argument is in this post. The general idea makes sense: You can no longer separate the world into the “non-profit [...] [...] heart of her argument is in this post. The general idea makes sense: You can no longer separate the world into the "non-profit [...]

]]> By: いい職場って何？ » 経済学101 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/10/30/the-shrinking-gap-between-nonprofit-and-for-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-216460 いい職場って何？ » 経済学101 Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:03:34 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=4224#comment-216460 [...] you don’t’ need to be calling yourself a social entrepreneur in order to save the world. We no longer divide the world into non-profit people who are do-gooders and for-profit people who are money-grubbers. We are all [...] [...] you don’t’ need to be calling yourself a social entrepreneur in order to save the world. We no longer divide the world into non-profit people who are do-gooders and for-profit people who are money-grubbers. We are all [...]

]]> By: Tia http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/10/30/the-shrinking-gap-between-nonprofit-and-for-profit/comment-page-1/#comment-216091 Tia Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:50:34 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=4224#comment-216091 Does the idea that we can 'do good anywhere' apply when we work for companies such as tobacco? I have really struggled with this notion recently as I search for new employment. Sure, with a great salary I could give back so much. But is it really as simple as just doing good myself? I keep trying to tell myself it is because I've seen an open position at a tobacco firm that fits my skills and interests, but I haven't applied. What if I have a wonderful boss and great co-workers? Is it enough? Thanks for the post-- it's really made me consider my options in a new light (especially living in Geneva, Switzerland where there are NPOs galore!) Does the idea that we can 'do good anywhere' apply when we work for companies such as tobacco? I have really struggled with this notion recently as I search for new employment. Sure, with a great salary I could give back so much. But is it really as simple as just doing good myself? I keep trying to tell myself it is because I've seen an open position at a tobacco firm that fits my skills and interests, but I haven't applied. What if I have a wonderful boss and great co-workers? Is it enough?

Thanks for the post– it's really made me consider my options in a new light (especially living in Geneva, Switzerland where there are NPOs galore!)

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