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	<title>Comments on: You can&#039;t manage your work life if you can&#039;t talk about it</title>
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	<description>Advice at the intersection of work and life</description>
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		<title>By: deadset</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/09/24/miscarriage-is-a-workplace-event/comment-page-6/#comment-269940</link>
		<dc:creator>deadset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 22:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see this post is two years old but the more something changes the more it stays the same.

I&#039;m booked in for a termination next Saturday. Why a Saturday? Because I daren&#039;t tell my hateful, child-free, sex-free, power-hungry female boss about it and ask for time off.

If only I could miscarry before then. But then I&#039;d need time off work. God forbid! I could never do that.

Don&#039;t bother lecturing me on safe sex, killing children (it&#039;s a bundle of cells the size of a bean), or any other clap trap. I&#039;m not sharing how this situation came about with you so don&#039;t bother sharing your thoughts with me.

The point is that we still work in an environment which is constructed to exclude women in so many ways. Something&#039;s got to change!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see this post is two years old but the more something changes the more it stays the same.</p>
<p>I&#039;m booked in for a termination next Saturday. Why a Saturday? Because I daren&#039;t tell my hateful, child-free, sex-free, power-hungry female boss about it and ask for time off.</p>
<p>If only I could miscarry before then. But then I&#039;d need time off work. God forbid! I could never do that.</p>
<p>Don&#039;t bother lecturing me on safe sex, killing children (it&#039;s a bundle of cells the size of a bean), or any other clap trap. I&#039;m not sharing how this situation came about with you so don&#039;t bother sharing your thoughts with me.</p>
<p>The point is that we still work in an environment which is constructed to exclude women in so many ways. Something&#039;s got to change!</p>
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		<title>By: Murat</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/09/24/miscarriage-is-a-workplace-event/comment-page-6/#comment-268768</link>
		<dc:creator>Murat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 19:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

A new research stated that the growth of an embryo during the early stages of pregnancy is linked to its risk of miscarriage.77.8% of single embryo pregnancies that miscarried were growth restricted, while 98.1% of single embryo pregnancies that did not miscarry were not growth restricted. Authors were said that there were other factors to consider when looking at miscarriage risk.(Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-16441820)

Greetings,

Murat
www.kulakburunbogaz.info</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>A new research stated that the growth of an embryo during the early stages of pregnancy is linked to its risk of miscarriage.77.8% of single embryo pregnancies that miscarried were growth restricted, while 98.1% of single embryo pregnancies that did not miscarry were not growth restricted. Authors were said that there were other factors to consider when looking at miscarriage risk.(Source: <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-16441820" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-16441820</a>)</p>
<p>Greetings,</p>
<p>Murat<br />
<a href="http://www.kulakburunbogaz.info" rel="nofollow">http://www.kulakburunbogaz.info</a></p>
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		<title>By: Maggie Roberts</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/09/24/miscarriage-is-a-workplace-event/comment-page-1/#comment-267562</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 17:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, I am sorry for your loss. Even if you intended to terminate, you would have experienced a loss. There are emotional consequences to be dealt with and I hope that you are well. 

I have to agree with the other commenters about the waiting period in Wisconsin. I am not for abortion in any way and even I can agree that later is most definitely not better. I am sure this is in some effort to get women to think through their choice thoroughly by forcing them to take the time, but I don&#039;t really believe that this is a decision than most women take lightly to begin with. It&#039;s really quite sad to add the guilt of several extra weeks on top of what is already impossibly difficult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, I am sorry for your loss. Even if you intended to terminate, you would have experienced a loss. There are emotional consequences to be dealt with and I hope that you are well. </p>
<p>I have to agree with the other commenters about the waiting period in Wisconsin. I am not for abortion in any way and even I can agree that later is most definitely not better. I am sure this is in some effort to get women to think through their choice thoroughly by forcing them to take the time, but I don&#039;t really believe that this is a decision than most women take lightly to begin with. It&#039;s really quite sad to add the guilt of several extra weeks on top of what is already impossibly difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: xx</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/09/24/miscarriage-is-a-workplace-event/comment-page-6/#comment-264921</link>
		<dc:creator>xx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 23:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you fucking idiot, it is called a TWEET not a TWITTER.

glad your child died</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you fucking idiot, it is called a TWEET not a TWITTER.</p>
<p>glad your child died</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 03:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re an idiot. Read the post again carefully. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#039;re an idiot. Read the post again carefully.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 03:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me get this straight; you are angry because her feelings about her miscarriage don&#039;t mirror your feeling about your miscarriage. You think that your feelings are correct and her feelings are wrong. Oh, but wait, you are also angry because the world at large does not share your feeling about your miscarriage, which would imply that your feeling are wrong and hers are correct. So I guess, even though you have had more or less the same experience, everyone should feel the same way about miscarriages that you do because you are entitled to your feelings, but nobody should feel the same way that she does because she is not entitled to her feelings. Oh, okay, I get it....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me get this straight; you are angry because her feelings about her miscarriage don&#039;t mirror your feeling about your miscarriage. You think that your feelings are correct and her feelings are wrong. Oh, but wait, you are also angry because the world at large does not share your feeling about your miscarriage, which would imply that your feeling are wrong and hers are correct. So I guess, even though you have had more or less the same experience, everyone should feel the same way about miscarriages that you do because you are entitled to your feelings, but nobody should feel the same way that she does because she is not entitled to her feelings. Oh, okay, I get it&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 03:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me get this straight; you are angry because her feelings about her miscarriage don&#039;t mirror your feeling about your miscarriage. You think that your feelings are correct and her feelings are wrong. Oh, but wait, you are also angry because the world at large does not share your feeling about your miscarriage, which would imply that your feeling are wrong and hers are correct. So I guess, even though you have had more or less the same experience, everyone should feel the same way about miscarriages that you do because you are entitled to your feelings, but nobody should feel the same way that she does because she is not entitled to her feelings. Oh, okay, I get it....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me get this straight; you are angry because her feelings about her miscarriage don&#039;t mirror your feeling about your miscarriage. You think that your feelings are correct and her feelings are wrong. Oh, but wait, you are also angry because the world at large does not share your feeling about your miscarriage, which would imply that your feeling are wrong and hers are correct. So I guess, even though you have had more or less the same experience, everyone should feel the same way about miscarriages that you do because you are entitled to your feelings, but nobody should feel the same way that she does because she is not entitled to her feelings. Oh, okay, I get it&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: PepeLePew</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/09/24/miscarriage-is-a-workplace-event/comment-page-6/#comment-263651</link>
		<dc:creator>PepeLePew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 01:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow...I just know your place and stay here for a while fooling around post, but this is serious.

No, I&#039;m not talking about your miscarriage. Yes, it happens. 

Not even about the decision of abortion.

It was funny reading you with your &#039;F# Off&#039; this and &#039;F#d up&#039; that.

But not now anymore.  I&#039;m out of here. This is deep sh!t when someone has not respect on serious stuff.

 &quot;Having a miscarriage. Thank goodness, because there&#039;s a fucked-up 3-week hoop-jump to have an abortion in Wisconsin&quot;       

....wow  

is that your pregnancy situation a f#cking curse? 

Could you feel or even think about your mother saying that to you when you were a kid, if she would &#039;force&#039; herself to have you, because she doesn&#039;t have another option????

&quot;Thank goodness, because there&#039;s a fucked-up 3-week hoop-jump to have an abortion in Wisconsin&quot;

I hope those words echo in your brain as long, and as deep enough, to learn something pure, a pure clean emotion like love, out of your life.   

Seriously.  I really believe you are a good person, but this is so deep mierda you are spreading to the world, don&#039;t be one more of those.

Change for good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow&#8230;I just know your place and stay here for a while fooling around post, but this is serious.</p>
<p>No, I&#039;m not talking about your miscarriage. Yes, it happens. </p>
<p>Not even about the decision of abortion.</p>
<p>It was funny reading you with your &#039;F# Off&#039; this and &#039;F#d up&#039; that.</p>
<p>But not now anymore.  I&#039;m out of here. This is deep sh!t when someone has not respect on serious stuff.</p>
<p> &#034;Having a miscarriage. Thank goodness, because there&#039;s a fucked-up 3-week hoop-jump to have an abortion in Wisconsin&#034;       </p>
<p>&#8230;.wow  </p>
<p>is that your pregnancy situation a f#cking curse? </p>
<p>Could you feel or even think about your mother saying that to you when you were a kid, if she would &#039;force&#039; herself to have you, because she doesn&#039;t have another option????</p>
<p>&#034;Thank goodness, because there&#039;s a fucked-up 3-week hoop-jump to have an abortion in Wisconsin&#034;</p>
<p>I hope those words echo in your brain as long, and as deep enough, to learn something pure, a pure clean emotion like love, out of your life.   </p>
<p>Seriously.  I really believe you are a good person, but this is so deep mierda you are spreading to the world, don&#039;t be one more of those.</p>
<p>Change for good.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/09/24/miscarriage-is-a-workplace-event/comment-page-6/#comment-263616</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 00:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an important post. Thank you for sharing this. I agree with you that the waiting period is terrible. That puts an additional amount of pressure on anyone facing this choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an important post. Thank you for sharing this. I agree with you that the waiting period is terrible. That puts an additional amount of pressure on anyone facing this choice.</p>
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		<title>By: An Open Letter to Penelope Trunk &#124; Scattered, Smothered, and Covered</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/09/24/miscarriage-is-a-workplace-event/comment-page-6/#comment-262907</link>
		<dc:creator>An Open Letter to Penelope Trunk &#124; Scattered, Smothered, and Covered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] start with my favorite post of hers about how Twitter can save your life) you know that it can be hard to read sometimes. Not because it&#8217;s not good, or true, but because it&#8217;s so real. And because [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] start with my favorite post of hers about how Twitter can save your life) you know that it can be hard to read sometimes. Not because it&#039;s not good, or true, but because it&#039;s so real. And because [...]</p>
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