Comments on: Good grammar might derail your career http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/05/19/good-grammar-might-derail-your-career/ Advice at the intersection of work and life Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:53:37 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Christian http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/05/19/good-grammar-might-derail-your-career/comment-page-/#comment-222265 Christian Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:49:14 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=2633#comment-222265 Even when rules are loosened up somewhat for impressionistic reasons there are still rules present. When somebody writes a piece and another person reads it the way they both understand each other is by understanding and applying previously agreed-upon rules (even if they're not aware that's what's happening). There's simply no escaping that. I could write the following: opebaw mnucik 2957 suu qavix And have somebody else try to read it. When they complained that they couldn't I could say, "How can you not pick up my intent from that? Don't worry that I didn't apply any rules you know of in writing it. I'm not arrogant like all those people that use good grammar and spelling." Even when rules are loosened up somewhat for impressionistic reasons there are still rules present. When somebody writes a piece and another person reads it the way they both understand each other is by understanding and applying previously agreed-upon rules (even if they're not aware that's what's happening). There's simply no escaping that.

I could write the following:

opebaw mnucik 2957 suu qavix

And have somebody else try to read it. When they complained that they couldn't I could say, "How can you not pick up my intent from that? Don't worry that I didn't apply any rules you know of in writing it. I'm not arrogant like all those people that use good grammar and spelling."

]]> By: Paula http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/05/19/good-grammar-might-derail-your-career/comment-page-1/#comment-216952 Paula Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:31:14 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=2633#comment-216952 Nyahhh, "different to" is just wrong. Nyahhh, "different to" is just wrong.

]]> By: Christian http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/05/19/good-grammar-might-derail-your-career/comment-page-1/#comment-207489 Christian Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:31:12 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=2633#comment-207489 "Nobody here recommends to throw grammar out the window when it comes to highly formal settings, such as the conventional workplace!" Except for the explicit sum and substance of Penelope's original post. "Nobody here recommends to throw grammar out the window when it comes to highly formal settings, such as the conventional workplace!"

Except for the explicit sum and substance of Penelope's original post.

]]> By: Agender http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/05/19/good-grammar-might-derail-your-career/comment-page-1/#comment-207477 Agender Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:21:00 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=2633#comment-207477 Nobody here recommends to throw grammar out the window when it comes to highly formal settings, such as the conventional workplace! You're winding yourself up over a completely phantom argument. And a rounding error wouldn't be considered a grammatical error. And your incessant abuse of the dash made it difficult for me to follow your train of thought, Ms. "linguistically talented". Nobody here recommends to throw grammar out the window when it comes to highly formal settings, such as the conventional workplace! You're winding yourself up over a completely phantom argument. And a rounding error wouldn't be considered a grammatical error. And your incessant abuse of the dash made it difficult for me to follow your train of thought, Ms. "linguistically talented".

]]> By: Agender http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/05/19/good-grammar-might-derail-your-career/comment-page-1/#comment-207472 Agender Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:08:49 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=2633#comment-207472 You come off as a remarkably arrogant tool, but no. Your social life is excellent, I'm sure. You come off as a remarkably arrogant tool, but no. Your social life is excellent, I'm sure.

]]> By: Deb http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/05/19/good-grammar-might-derail-your-career/comment-page-4/#comment-206849 Deb Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:49:17 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=2633#comment-206849 I'll wholeheartedly second Christian on this. So many times I've been frustrated by SMS-style language, all capitals or the absence of puncutation on emails, blogs & even websites which totally hamper reading. This is besides grammatically wrong and/or nonsensical words and expressions which take quite a while to decipher. I'll wholeheartedly second Christian on this. So many times I've been frustrated by SMS-style language, all capitals or the absence of puncutation on emails, blogs & even websites which totally hamper reading. This is besides grammatically wrong and/or nonsensical words and expressions which take quite a while to decipher.

]]> By: Christian http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/05/19/good-grammar-might-derail-your-career/comment-page-4/#comment-206789 Christian Mon, 05 Oct 2009 06:13:32 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=2633#comment-206789 "People go online for information because they want to get to it fast, read it fast and easily understand it." Wow, there's still people here who just don't get it. Good grammar is not about being "prim and proper" to show how marvelous you are. It is about communicating effectively and I might add communicating quickly as well. Bad grammar kills and slows down effective communication and increases the time it takes for the reader to understand the writer's intent. I'm not sure why that's so hard for people to grasp. If you're so into bad grammar as opposed to good grammar why don't you try communicating your ideas by barking at people? "People go online for information because they want to get to it fast, read it fast and easily understand it."

Wow, there's still people here who just don't get it. Good grammar is not about being "prim and proper" to show how marvelous you are. It is about communicating effectively and I might add communicating quickly as well. Bad grammar kills and slows down effective communication and increases the time it takes for the reader to understand the writer's intent. I'm not sure why that's so hard for people to grasp. If you're so into bad grammar as opposed to good grammar why don't you try communicating your ideas by barking at people?

]]> By: Brad http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/05/19/good-grammar-might-derail-your-career/comment-page-4/#comment-206768 Brad Mon, 05 Oct 2009 02:20:59 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=2633#comment-206768 I find that, especially when writing online, good grammar might distance people from your content. If you are too prim and proper about what you are writing it wont work. People go online for information because they want to get to it fast, read it fast and easily understand it. I find that, especially when writing online, good grammar might distance people from your content. If you are too prim and proper about what you are writing it wont work. People go online for information because they want to get to it fast, read it fast and easily understand it.

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