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		<title>By: 5 Career tips women should run from &#171; Blog On Sisters – Start Your Global Conversation Today</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/01/12/5-career-tips-women-should-ignore/comment-page-3/#comment-213664</link>
		<dc:creator>5 Career tips women should run from &#171; Blog On Sisters – Start Your Global Conversation Today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the advice here: http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/01/12/5-career-tips-women-should-ignore/ Bookmark &amp; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the advice here: <a href="http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/01/12/5-career-tips-women-should-ignore/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/01/12/5-career-tips-women-should-ignore/</a> Bookmark &amp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sid</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/01/12/5-career-tips-women-should-ignore/comment-page-3/#comment-210396</link>
		<dc:creator>Sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi... that&#039;s really a great post in that article a lesson for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fresherstimes.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;freshers&lt;/a&gt; who are still straggling to find right job for them, and who are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fresherstimes.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;student&lt;/a&gt;, graduate but not able to find right job but how there will handle their job and career in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi&#8230; that&#039;s really a great post in that article a lesson for the <a href="http://www.fresherstimes.com" rel="nofollow">freshers</a> who are still straggling to find right job for them, and who are <a href="http://www.fresherstimes.com" rel="nofollow">student</a>, graduate but not able to find right job but how there will handle their job and career in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Women Are Bullying Other Women On the Job &#124; Small Hands, Big Ideas</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2009/01/12/5-career-tips-women-should-ignore/comment-page-3/#comment-200366</link>
		<dc:creator>Women Are Bullying Other Women On the Job &#124; Small Hands, Big Ideas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I firmly believe there is no need for bullying. There are many women who didn&#8217;t need to step all over people to get to the top. They weren&#8217;t passive, but they weren&#8217;t bullying asses. I encourage women to work for a common cause. Stop trying to be something you&#8217;re not and remember to be true to yourself while exercising both masculine and feminine qualities as you find a balance.  A company that really respects their employees won&#8217;t care about the gender differences and will hire the right person for the position, regardless of gender. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I firmly believe there is no need for bullying. There are many women who didn&#039;t need to step all over people to get to the top. They weren&#039;t passive, but they weren&#039;t bullying asses. I encourage women to work for a common cause. Stop trying to be something you&#039;re not and remember to be true to yourself while exercising both masculine and feminine qualities as you find a balance.  A company that really respects their employees won&#039;t care about the gender differences and will hire the right person for the position, regardless of gender. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nike Goalie Gloves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nike Goalie Gloves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think your on the money with these. It&#039;s really refreshing for a women to admit to some of these things, and I think they world would be a better place if they were ruled out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your on the money with these. It&#039;s really refreshing for a women to admit to some of these things, and I think they world would be a better place if they were ruled out.</p>
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		<title>By: hj</title>
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		<dc:creator>hj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, really -- dont cry at work.  Women who cry at work make me want to stab them in the eye.  Cry at home, cry in the bathroom -- if you have not been diagnosed with some terminal illness or your child is not seriously hurt -- dont be crying at work -- period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, really &#8212; dont cry at work.  Women who cry at work make me want to stab them in the eye.  Cry at home, cry in the bathroom &#8212; if you have not been diagnosed with some terminal illness or your child is not seriously hurt &#8212; dont be crying at work &#8212; period.</p>
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		<title>By: bilbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bilbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 03:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had one female boss, that was actually pretty good,  one of my top three.  She never cried at work, even when her husband died unexpectedly, which was kind of weird.
The only bad thing about having a good looking female boss is not wanting to appear to be sucking up to her.
The good thing was it was easier to manipulate myself to suck up to her.
But, back to the point.  Anger whether through tears or in any other fashion is not good at all at work. Especially in upper management.  It just looks like the person in charge is out of control and can&#039;t handle it.  Even for males at work who throw a temper tantrum or berate people, it works totally in the opposite direction.  Yes, they usually get immediate satisfaction or results. But in the long term it doesn&#039;t help, because from then on any misstep, mistake is more easily questioned.  Is this a simple mistake or is this because the person in charge can&#039;t keep it together?
If you look at business as war, which was quite popular in recent history.  Then who do you want in charge when the bullets fly?
Someone who is cool and collected taking in information to resolve the situation and making a decision, or someone who loses it emotionally when times get tough.
Usually when times are tough or bad news comes around people are looking for leadership.
So whether it be a male or female somebody who keeps losing it emotionally, doesn&#039;t make for good upper management or mid-management.
I have often thought that women had an advantage in this department, because they usually seemed less emotionally tied to their jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had one female boss, that was actually pretty good,  one of my top three.  She never cried at work, even when her husband died unexpectedly, which was kind of weird.<br />
The only bad thing about having a good looking female boss is not wanting to appear to be sucking up to her.<br />
The good thing was it was easier to manipulate myself to suck up to her.<br />
But, back to the point.  Anger whether through tears or in any other fashion is not good at all at work. Especially in upper management.  It just looks like the person in charge is out of control and can&#039;t handle it.  Even for males at work who throw a temper tantrum or berate people, it works totally in the opposite direction.  Yes, they usually get immediate satisfaction or results. But in the long term it doesn&#039;t help, because from then on any misstep, mistake is more easily questioned.  Is this a simple mistake or is this because the person in charge can&#039;t keep it together?<br />
If you look at business as war, which was quite popular in recent history.  Then who do you want in charge when the bullets fly?<br />
Someone who is cool and collected taking in information to resolve the situation and making a decision, or someone who loses it emotionally when times get tough.<br />
Usually when times are tough or bad news comes around people are looking for leadership.<br />
So whether it be a male or female somebody who keeps losing it emotionally, doesn&#039;t make for good upper management or mid-management.<br />
I have often thought that women had an advantage in this department, because they usually seemed less emotionally tied to their jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: jessica s santascoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jessica s santascoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 20:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;crying is okay at work&quot; guideline is tricky. I had a supervisor who used to cry and then turn around and be mean and stern. It was an obvious case of feeling embarrassed for being vulnerable, then trying to compensate by being tough. After several of her bouts of crying, I came to see them as manipulative and unnecessary. On one occasion she burst out crying in front of several employees; the organization was filled with gossip. She got a reputation as being unstable and incapable of handling pressure, which she might have been. So, why not just excuse yourself and go to the ladies room to prevent the lack of credibility that may follow? 

However, if one feels passionate about an issue, crying may add credibility. For example, a friend of mine who&#039;s a professor began crying and said &quot;excuse me&quot; in front of her class while teaching an especially sad period of Chicana history. The students were affected deeply by her emotion, and came up to her after class to thank her for crying. They felt her connection to the history and it made the history more personal. 

How crying is perceived is contextual. It depends a lot on the people around to make it a productive action. In business it could be  distracting. Or, if trying to make your case, it might make an impact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#034;crying is okay at work&#034; guideline is tricky. I had a supervisor who used to cry and then turn around and be mean and stern. It was an obvious case of feeling embarrassed for being vulnerable, then trying to compensate by being tough. After several of her bouts of crying, I came to see them as manipulative and unnecessary. On one occasion she burst out crying in front of several employees; the organization was filled with gossip. She got a reputation as being unstable and incapable of handling pressure, which she might have been. So, why not just excuse yourself and go to the ladies room to prevent the lack of credibility that may follow? </p>
<p>However, if one feels passionate about an issue, crying may add credibility. For example, a friend of mine who&#039;s a professor began crying and said &#034;excuse me&#034; in front of her class while teaching an especially sad period of Chicana history. The students were affected deeply by her emotion, and came up to her after class to thank her for crying. They felt her connection to the history and it made the history more personal. </p>
<p>How crying is perceived is contextual. It depends a lot on the people around to make it a productive action. In business it could be  distracting. Or, if trying to make your case, it might make an impact.</p>
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		<title>By: Alfred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alfred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 08:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About the PMS aspect: Seems it&#039;s been used as an excuse for denying women roles in society ranging from president to military combat. I guess the military would be one place where crying might be legit: if you&#039;re crying you can&#039;t see your target. - Easier to say than to do</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About the PMS aspect: Seems it&#039;s been used as an excuse for denying women roles in society ranging from president to military combat. I guess the military would be one place where crying might be legit: if you&#039;re crying you can&#039;t see your target. &#8211; Easier to say than to do</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me too.  I searched for this posting because today, for the first time, I cried and work.  It was in response to criticism from my boss.  YUCK.  I would be SO SO SO mortified (instead I&#039;m just SO mortified) if I hadn&#039;t read this a few months ago, and learned that crying at work just sometimes happens.  Not planning to make a habit of it, but at least I know it&#039;s happened to someone before, and will happen to someone again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too.  I searched for this posting because today, for the first time, I cried and work.  It was in response to criticism from my boss.  YUCK.  I would be SO SO SO mortified (instead I&#039;m just SO mortified) if I hadn&#039;t read this a few months ago, and learned that crying at work just sometimes happens.  Not planning to make a habit of it, but at least I know it&#039;s happened to someone before, and will happen to someone again.</p>
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		<title>By: Women Should Not Network in All-Female Professional Groups &#124; Twenty Set</title>
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		<dc:creator>Women Should Not Network in All-Female Professional Groups &#124; Twenty Set</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 00:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] women because we base our own self-image on what other women have that we don’t. Career columnist Penelope Trunk says, “Everyone is competitive, but there are more problems between two women than between two men or [...]</description>
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