Comments on: My annual rant about Christmas at work http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/12/24/my-annual-rant-about-christmas-at-work/ Advice at the intersection of work and life Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:30:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Jay http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/12/24/my-annual-rant-about-christmas-at-work/comment-page-2/#comment-266848 Jay Sat, 24 Dec 2011 20:05:06 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=1854#comment-266848 I have to agree with what another person said. Christmas is a national holiday. Someone decided long ago that it would be and it was so. Yes, it is a more significant holiday to Christians but I wouldn't call that preferential treatment, it is merely an homage to the Christian heritage of this nation. Whether you are a Christian or not, the roots of this country are Christians roots and they should not simply be discarded for the sake of diversity. Just as Israel should not be forced to make Christmas a national holiday, as chanukah and yom kippur are more significant to the heritage there. This issue is very similar the thanksgiving. I'm sure Native Americans don't consider that a holiday worth celebrating. As a national our national holidays are established around the heritage of our founding fathers. While our culture has evolved, that is no reason to disregard our historic roots. America is a land where you are free to choose whether you celebrate these holidays personally or not. If you do not agree don't celebrate them, but do not expect the entire country to forsake its roots simply to accommodate you. It hasn't worked out that way for any other marginalized minority in the world and it's not gonna work now for you. The fact that you have floating holidays at all speaks the the attempts of our corporate leaders to accommodate everyone. I have to agree with what another person said. Christmas is a national holiday. Someone decided long ago that it would be and it was so. Yes, it is a more significant holiday to Christians but I wouldn't call that preferential treatment, it is merely an homage to the Christian heritage of this nation. Whether you are a Christian or not, the roots of this country are Christians roots and they should not simply be discarded for the sake of diversity. Just as Israel should not be forced to make Christmas a national holiday, as chanukah and yom kippur are more significant to the heritage there. This issue is very similar the thanksgiving. I'm sure Native Americans don't consider that a holiday worth celebrating. As a national our national holidays are established around the heritage of our founding fathers. While our culture has evolved, that is no reason to disregard our historic roots. America is a land where you are free to choose whether you celebrate these holidays personally or not. If you do not agree don't celebrate them, but do not expect the entire country to forsake its roots simply to accommodate you. It hasn't worked out that way for any other marginalized minority in the world and it's not gonna work now for you. The fact that you have floating holidays at all speaks the the attempts of our corporate leaders to accommodate everyone.

]]> By: Cap'n P http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/12/24/my-annual-rant-about-christmas-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-266588 Cap'n P Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:06:14 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=1854#comment-266588 Christmas is an American holiday? What? Christmas is based on the myth that a virgin gave birth to the only child born without sin. Think about that. Your unborn child is considered to be a sinner the second he or she is born! This impossible event has since been seized upon by corporate mongrels. Yeah, enjoy Christmas but don't start giving someone a hard time because they happen to have an alternate view. Christmas is an American holiday? What? Christmas is based on the myth that a virgin gave birth to the only child born without sin. Think about that. Your unborn child is considered to be a sinner the second he or she is born! This impossible event has since been seized upon by corporate mongrels. Yeah, enjoy Christmas but don't start giving someone a hard time because they happen to have an alternate view.

]]> By: Cinthia http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/12/24/my-annual-rant-about-christmas-at-work/comment-page-2/#comment-264909 Cinthia Tue, 29 Nov 2011 13:28:00 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=1854#comment-264909 I absolutley agree and I am a Christian. I have argued for years to take Christmas away as a federal holiday. It is a very important religious day for me and I hate what it has become, the less focus on it by the general population, the better. The whole Happy Holidays thing drives me nuts. This is my relgious day, don't tell me what I can say in regard to it. I would hope on the floating holiday band-wagon in a heartbeat. I would love to see Christmas return to the church where it belongs, and get out of the marketplace and work place. Your idea is simple, rational and fits all needs. Thanks for posting this. I absolutley agree and I am a Christian. I have argued for years to take Christmas away as a federal holiday. It is a very important religious day for me and I hate what it has become, the less focus on it by the general population, the better. The whole Happy Holidays thing drives me nuts. This is my relgious day, don't tell me what I can say in regard to it. I would hope on the floating holiday band-wagon in a heartbeat.

I would love to see Christmas return to the church where it belongs, and get out of the marketplace and work place.

Your idea is simple, rational and fits all needs. Thanks for posting this.

]]> By: bonserbishop http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/12/24/my-annual-rant-about-christmas-at-work/comment-page-2/#comment-264853 bonserbishop Mon, 28 Nov 2011 15:42:00 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=1854#comment-264853 I tried that one year.  It made me incredibly sad since Solstice is a pagan holiday that was coopted by the Christians into being  Christmas.  So I celebrate both now and have a lot more fun:  I get to participate in the biggest cultural celebration of the year, one that focuses on peace, and I get to reflect on the changing of the seasons.  win-win. I tried that one year.  It made me incredibly sad since Solstice is a pagan holiday that was coopted by the Christians into being  Christmas.  So I celebrate both now and have a lot more fun:  I get to participate in the biggest cultural celebration of the year, one that focuses on peace, and I get to reflect on the changing of the seasons.  win-win.

]]> By: Managing Your Social Media Mullet — Part 2 HR, Recruiting, Social Media Policies, Human Resources, HR Technology Blogging4Jobs http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/12/24/my-annual-rant-about-christmas-at-work/comment-page-2/#comment-263880 Managing Your Social Media Mullet — Part 2 HR, Recruiting, Social Media Policies, Human Resources, HR Technology Blogging4Jobs Mon, 28 Nov 2011 11:18:26 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=1854#comment-263880 [...] later be tweeting about taking jello shots during the corporate holiday party?  Yes, I said Holiday instead of Christmas.  Some HR traditions die [...] [...] later be tweeting about taking jello shots during the corporate holiday party?  Yes, I said Holiday instead of Christmas.  Some HR traditions die [...]

]]> By: Catfish http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/12/24/my-annual-rant-about-christmas-at-work/comment-page-2/#comment-263190 Catfish Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:14:00 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=1854#comment-263190 Well the Jews killed jesus hardly surprising you wouldn't wanna celebrate christmas is it. Well the Jews killed jesus hardly surprising you wouldn't wanna celebrate christmas is it.

]]> By: y3 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/12/24/my-annual-rant-about-christmas-at-work/comment-page-2/#comment-257910 y3 Sat, 13 Aug 2011 15:54:11 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=1854#comment-257910 I have read your blog. I like your post. Thanks I have read your blog. I like your post. Thanks

]]> By: The ‘true’ meaning of Christmas (it’s not what you think) | Roaming Tales http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/12/24/my-annual-rant-about-christmas-at-work/comment-page-2/#comment-252328 The ‘true’ meaning of Christmas (it’s not what you think) | Roaming Tales Wed, 01 Jun 2011 06:09:54 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=1854#comment-252328 [...] in my house, I’m spending Christmas Eve browsing the internet and getting fired up by anti-Christmas spirit over on Penelope Trunk’s blog. She did this last year and the year before too and I know I [...] [...] in my house, I'm spending Christmas Eve browsing the internet and getting fired up by anti-Christmas spirit over on Penelope Trunk's blog. She did this last year and the year before too and I know I [...]

]]> By: Christmas at work | Faran Jessani http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/12/24/my-annual-rant-about-christmas-at-work/comment-page-2/#comment-233117 Christmas at work | Faran Jessani Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:33:58 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=1854#comment-233117 [...] a read through her three articles about Christmas at work here: http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/12/24/my-annual-rant-about-christmas-at-work/ http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/12/03/five-things-people-say-about-christmas-that-drive-me-nuts/ [...] [...] a read through her three articles about Christmas at work here: http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/12/24/my-annual-rant-about-christmas-at-work/ http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/12/03/five-things-people-say-about-christmas-that-drive-me-nuts/ [...]

]]> By: Cinthia http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/12/24/my-annual-rant-about-christmas-at-work/comment-page-2/#comment-217282 Cinthia Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:09:43 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/?p=1854#comment-217282 Yes, yes, yes. Cancel Christmas as a public holiday. Cancel it completely!!!!! I hate it, hate it, hate it. I am sick of the whole stupid debate. I understand how the whole Christmas thing evolved but we are long past that. You are right, this is not a Christian country. In fact I would call it anti-Christian. Driving down my Asheville highways I see bumper stickers everywhere that say, "So many Christians, so few lions." I am a Christian and I am told in all aspects of my life to keep my faith to myself, and I do. I don't bring it up period. But I find the complete opposite is true concerning all other religions. Others at work can and do celebrate a High Wiccan Day, for example. And then we stand around and discuss how interesting it all is. I work in government by the way. We ask what the Wiccan symbols adorning their office means and feel, as a result, we're being super diverse. I wouldn't dream of decorating my office for any season of the Christian calendar but if I did, within minutes I'd have so many people bitching at me--it would go on for weeks, and I'd likely be fired. I am part of Leadership Asheville where the leader teaching us to be leaders makes regular jokes about Christians to which the whole group howls, though there are at least five Christians in the 30 member group. Dear Lord, if she joked about Jews or Buddhists or anyone else it would be on our Asheville news. She would be called upon to give a public apology and she would no longer be our leader teaching us to lead. So, no we are not a Christian country and I would love to have my Christian holiday back and yes, I will gladly take a floating holiday for it. I would yelp with delight to do that to keep everyone who is not a Christian from bastardizing the day. I don't give a shit how any of you feel about the day. Enough bitching about it and stop celebrating it. Enough debating it and stop celebrating it. I will trade you Christmas for any of your religous holidays just to have the day back. Be thankful our country hasn't gotten hold of your holiday yet and that you do have to take a floating day for it. I remember your description of one of your religious holidays celebrated at home and it was lovely. Enjoy that before someone decides it will be a federal holiday and turns it from the sacred to the idiotic. Yes, yes, yes. Cancel Christmas as a public holiday. Cancel it completely!!!!! I hate it, hate it, hate it. I am sick of the whole stupid debate. I understand how the whole Christmas thing evolved but we are long past that. You are right, this is not a Christian country. In fact I would call it anti-Christian. Driving down my Asheville highways I see bumper stickers everywhere that say, "So many Christians, so few lions."

I am a Christian and I am told in all aspects of my life to keep my faith to myself, and I do. I don't bring it up period. But I find the complete opposite is true concerning all other religions. Others at work can and do celebrate a High Wiccan Day, for example. And then we stand around and discuss how interesting it all is. I work in government by the way. We ask what the Wiccan symbols adorning their office means and feel, as a result, we're being super diverse.

I wouldn't dream of decorating my office for any season of the Christian calendar but if I did, within minutes I'd have so many people bitching at me–it would go on for weeks, and I'd likely be fired.

I am part of Leadership Asheville where the leader teaching us to be leaders makes regular jokes about Christians to which the whole group howls, though there are at least five Christians in the 30 member group. Dear Lord, if she joked about Jews or Buddhists or anyone else it would be on our Asheville news. She would be called upon to give a public apology and she would no longer be our leader teaching us to lead.

So, no we are not a Christian country and I would love to have my Christian holiday back and yes, I will gladly take a floating holiday for it. I would yelp with delight to do that to keep everyone who is not a Christian from bastardizing the day.

I don't give a shit how any of you feel about the day. Enough bitching about it and stop celebrating it. Enough debating it and stop celebrating it. I will trade you Christmas for any of your religous holidays just to have the day back.

Be thankful our country hasn't gotten hold of your holiday yet and that you do have to take a floating day for it. I remember your description of one of your religious holidays celebrated at home and it was lovely. Enjoy that before someone decides it will be a federal holiday and turns it from the sacred to the idiotic.

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