Comments on: Five things that are about to stop sucking at work http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/07/24/five-things-that-are-about-to-stop-sucking-at-work/ Advice at the intersection of work and life Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:26:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: summer http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/07/24/five-things-that-are-about-to-stop-sucking-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-270593 summer Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:38:41 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/07/24/five-things-that-are-about-to-stop-sucking-at-work/#comment-270593 I seriously have a problem with #4. I don't feel that women should have to play into gender stereotyping (dressing like "women") to be accepted in the workplace. This statement is clearly supporting a very sexist view of the world in which many women have fought long and hard to discredit. I'm a little disappointed that you would suggest that women should dress in a way that men would prefer. Who cares how men would like women to dress? And what exactly does "women who dress like women" mean anyway? If you look at the most successful business woman I know personally, that would mean wearing pant suits and loafers, and not one stitch of make up. According to your statement, that would be bad for her career since it's not what a typical man would consider feminine. Once again, I doubt any strong, smart women are walking around wondering how they should dress at work to appeal to the men in the office. I seriously have a problem with #4. I don't feel that women should have to play into gender stereotyping (dressing like "women") to be accepted in the workplace. This statement is clearly supporting a very sexist view of the world in which many women have fought long and hard to discredit. I'm a little disappointed that you would suggest that women should dress in a way that men would prefer. Who cares how men would like women to dress? And what exactly does "women who dress like women" mean anyway? If you look at the most successful business woman I know personally, that would mean wearing pant suits and loafers, and not one stitch of make up. According to your statement, that would be bad for her career since it's not what a typical man would consider feminine. Once again, I doubt any strong, smart women are walking around wondering how they should dress at work to appeal to the men in the office.

]]> By: Jannet http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/07/24/five-things-that-are-about-to-stop-sucking-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-221237 Jannet Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:54:33 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/07/24/five-things-that-are-about-to-stop-sucking-at-work/#comment-221237 I love your post, i always buy shoes from www.thevividroom.com and it has become an addiction. You have great info, thanks! I love your post, i always buy shoes from http://www.thevividroom.com and it has become an addiction. You have great info, thanks!

]]> By: Entrepreneurial Lessons from “Weeds” | Bizzy Women http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/07/24/five-things-that-are-about-to-stop-sucking-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-169519 Entrepreneurial Lessons from “Weeds” | Bizzy Women Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:08:08 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/07/24/five-things-that-are-about-to-stop-sucking-at-work/#comment-169519 [...] And from what I hear a little flirting in the workplace has never hurt productivity. [...] [...] And from what I hear a little flirting in the workplace has never hurt productivity. [...]

]]> By: Cathy Goodwin http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/07/24/five-things-that-are-about-to-stop-sucking-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-163971 Cathy Goodwin Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:16:53 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/07/24/five-things-that-are-about-to-stop-sucking-at-work/#comment-163971 Not-so-high heels? I read that WSJ article too. The only really comfortable shoes cost as much as Manolo Blahniks. Even mid-heeled shoes will squash your toes, especially if your feet are shaped like little rectangles. Mine are. So men like women who like feminine? Thirty years ago men didn't want women in the workplace at all. Everybody used to like smoking, too. Isn't it a little medieval to say we must tolerate foot pain, stress, tendinitis and other conditions to gain acceptance in the workplace? Not-so-high heels? I read that WSJ article too. The only really comfortable shoes cost as much as Manolo Blahniks. Even mid-heeled shoes will squash your toes, especially if your feet are shaped like little rectangles. Mine are.

So men like women who like feminine? Thirty years ago men didn't want women in the workplace at all.

Everybody used to like smoking, too. Isn't it a little medieval to say we must tolerate foot pain, stress, tendinitis and other conditions to gain acceptance in the workplace?

]]> By: Shoeaholics Anonymous Shoe Blog » Blog Archive » Stop Sucking at Work http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/07/24/five-things-that-are-about-to-stop-sucking-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-162664 Shoeaholics Anonymous Shoe Blog » Blog Archive » Stop Sucking at Work Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:02:09 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/07/24/five-things-that-are-about-to-stop-sucking-at-work/#comment-162664 [...] that knows how much I like shoes and talking about them sent me this article by Penelope Trunk: Five things that are about to stop sucking at work.  I could not pass up sharing number 4… 4. The tyranny of high heels will give way to the [...] [...] that knows how much I like shoes and talking about them sent me this article by Penelope Trunk: Five things that are about to stop sucking at work.  I could not pass up sharing number 4… 4. The tyranny of high heels will give way to the [...]

]]> By: PCD http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/07/24/five-things-that-are-about-to-stop-sucking-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-159252 PCD Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:33:51 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/07/24/five-things-that-are-about-to-stop-sucking-at-work/#comment-159252 "Now he’s at Microsoft and his job is to buy companies." Is that another resume 'stretch'? "Now he’s at Microsoft and his job is to buy companies."

Is that another resume 'stretch'?

]]> By: So What if My Role Model is a Pot Dealer: Entrepreneurial Lessons from “Weeds” « worker biatch, interrupted http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/07/24/five-things-that-are-about-to-stop-sucking-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-159217 So What if My Role Model is a Pot Dealer: Entrepreneurial Lessons from “Weeds” « worker biatch, interrupted Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:30:38 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/07/24/five-things-that-are-about-to-stop-sucking-at-work/#comment-159217 [...] And from what I hear a little flirting in the workplace has never hurt productivity. [...] [...] And from what I hear a little flirting in the workplace has never hurt productivity. [...]

]]> By: Adam http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/07/24/five-things-that-are-about-to-stop-sucking-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-159086 Adam Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:12:35 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/07/24/five-things-that-are-about-to-stop-sucking-at-work/#comment-159086 I think you missed this one Penelope "The tyranny of tech support will be exposed and they will actually offer help." I've been on both sides of the tech support equation (I'm one of the techies who tells you what happened, why, how to solve it next time, and/or if you even need to know those things) The problem isn't completely tech support, nor is it completely the user's fault. I'll even say both of those groups together don't even come close to half the blame. They're only the visible targets. (users and techies) "Users will demand programs that are, in fact, usable." Most program's user interfaces suck. They aren't usable. They don't work for humans in general. Users in general won't ever "get it". Until software companies (other than Apple) "get it" we all have to make do with stuff that promises productivity but only adds lots of aggravation to the minor productivity boosts. I think I'll put my soap box away before I really get into it ;) I think you missed this one Penelope

"The tyranny of tech support will be exposed and they will actually offer help."

I've been on both sides of the tech support equation (I'm one of the techies who tells you what happened, why, how to solve it next time, and/or if you even need to know those things)

The problem isn't completely tech support, nor is it completely the user's fault. I'll even say both of those groups together don't even come close to half the blame. They're only the visible targets. (users and techies)

"Users will demand programs that are, in fact, usable."

Most program's user interfaces suck. They aren't usable. They don't work for humans in general. Users in general won't ever "get it". Until software companies (other than Apple) "get it" we all have to make do with stuff that promises productivity but only adds lots of aggravation to the minor productivity boosts.

I think I'll put my soap box away before I really get into it ;)

]]> By: Another way I kinda grew up white. . . « Korean Adoptee Bride http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/07/24/five-things-that-are-about-to-stop-sucking-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-158698 Another way I kinda grew up white. . . « Korean Adoptee Bride Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:40:40 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/07/24/five-things-that-are-about-to-stop-sucking-at-work/#comment-158698 [...] Five things that are about to stop sucking at work [...] [...] Five things that are about to stop sucking at work [...]

]]> By: J http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/07/24/five-things-that-are-about-to-stop-sucking-at-work/comment-page-1/#comment-158535 J Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:17:54 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/07/24/five-things-that-are-about-to-stop-sucking-at-work/#comment-158535 Women should care what they look like at work. As should men. Women should care what they look like at work.

As should men.

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