Comments on: How to get a job that’s way beyond your experience http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/14/5-ways-to-get-a-job-way-above-your-experience/ Advice at the intersection of work and life Fri, 16 May 2008 02:18:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Jump http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/14/5-ways-to-get-a-job-way-above-your-experience/#comment-147110 Jump Sat, 10 May 2008 13:14:09 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/14/5-ways-to-get-a-job-way-above-your-experience/#comment-147110 Interesting article. Thanks. I do have one question and it is a general one at that. Does anyone or has anyone ever had the feeling that for all the wise words of wisdom that can be found in business literature about how organisations (companies) should be run, that in actual fact, the reality of things is that you actually see and experience the opposite? A bit vague? Let me clarify. There are countless business guru's in the world today - in fact there seem to be countless guru's in every aspect of human life - so this might apply to them to. With all these experts and their bright ideas, when you do in fact engage and experience the business world, do you really see the wisdom that is being touted around as the best way of doing things, actually in operation and actually working? My experience is - no. Some principles do seem to be in operation, howevr just how diligently they are applied is another matter altogether. Suprisingly to me, some of the biggest brands are the worst defaulters on these business strategies and spend more time in a murky fuzz of indecision as to who is responsible for what, let alone following the latest and greatest approach to management and or leadership. The above might seem totally out of step with this particular post, however to me, it says - why not go one or two notches above your level of experiene or competence? It might just be that your attitude and courage are probably more important than your actual skills. Not in every field mind you, but for most businesses. The weaknesses of the systems of organisations to actually understand what they need, yet still acknowledge that they need something or someone, might mean that they are open to taking some chances. At the very least it is worth taking a chance if there really is nothing left to lose. Interesting article. Thanks.

I do have one question and it is a general one at that.

Does anyone or has anyone ever had the feeling that for all the wise words of wisdom that can be found in business literature about how organisations (companies) should be run, that in actual fact, the reality of things is that you actually see and experience the opposite?

A bit vague? Let me clarify.

There are countless business guru’s in the world today - in fact there seem to be countless guru’s in every aspect of human life - so this might apply to them to. With all these experts and their bright ideas, when you do in fact engage and experience the business world, do you really see the wisdom that is being touted around as the best way of doing things, actually in operation and actually working? My experience is - no.

Some principles do seem to be in operation, howevr just how diligently they are applied is another matter altogether. Suprisingly to me, some of the biggest brands are the worst defaulters on these business strategies and spend more time in a murky fuzz of indecision as to who is responsible for what, let alone following the latest and greatest approach to management and or leadership.

The above might seem totally out of step with this particular post, however to me, it says - why not go one or two notches above your level of experiene or competence? It might just be that your attitude and courage are probably more important than your actual skills. Not in every field mind you, but for most businesses. The weaknesses of the systems of organisations to actually understand what they need, yet still acknowledge that they need something or someone, might mean that they are open to taking some chances. At the very least it is worth taking a chance if there really is nothing left to lose.

]]> By: Fabulous Financials » Perspective http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/14/5-ways-to-get-a-job-way-above-your-experience/#comment-147013 Fabulous Financials » Perspective Wed, 07 May 2008 15:22:40 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/14/5-ways-to-get-a-job-way-above-your-experience/#comment-147013 [...] a few days of jumping back on the blogging band wagon, I ran across this fabulous article: How to Get a Job That’s Way Beyond Your Experience by Penelope Trunk @ Brazen Careerist. Immediately, I thought to myself - been there, done that. Got [...] […] a few days of jumping back on the blogging band wagon, I ran across this fabulous article: How to Get a Job That’s Way Beyond Your Experience by Penelope Trunk @ Brazen Careerist. Immediately, I thought to myself - been there, done that. Got […]

]]> By: achievement first http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/14/5-ways-to-get-a-job-way-above-your-experience/#comment-146865 achievement first Sun, 04 May 2008 12:47:57 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/14/5-ways-to-get-a-job-way-above-your-experience/#comment-146865 [...] is a little beyond your experience. So how do you get one? first of all, realize that the people whohttp://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/14/5-ways-to-get-a-job-way-above-your-experience/idealist.org - Achievement FirstAchievement first is a charter school management organization [...] […] is a little beyond your experience. So how do you get one? first of all, realize that the people whohttp://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/14/5-ways-to-get-a-job-way-above-your-experience/idealist.org - Achievement FirstAchievement first is a charter school management organization […]

]]> By: Stipe http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/14/5-ways-to-get-a-job-way-above-your-experience/#comment-146661 Stipe Thu, 01 May 2008 02:36:20 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/14/5-ways-to-get-a-job-way-above-your-experience/#comment-146661 There is stiff competition in the job market. Unemployment is on the rise. Large numbers of applications are received by companies for limited number of posts. But there is dearth of skilled manpower in the industry. So both potential find a job resort to online job portals which are a powerful medium in the era of Internet. There are certain websites which offer better services if paid for them. But, Jobbi.com is one exception that provides all its services absolutely free. Jobbi.com believes in keeping things simple and easy as far as possible. The registration process of the site consists of few easy steps unlike other sites whose sign up process is unnecessarily lengthy and time consuming. The user can straightway apply for jobs or post his jobs after the completion of registration process. The portal also offers free resume search for candidates so that they can get access to best of resumes to build their effective profiles. It also has three samples or templates of resume which the user can copy and paste and then edit to suit their requirements. Apart from employers and job seekers, other users are also benefited by Jobbi.com. Its HeadHunt program enables users to search for potential candidates and jobs and provide them to employers and candidates. So they act as a connecting medium between employers and employees. But, companies don’t make payments to these headhunters for providing them manpower. Instead, they are adequately compensated by Jobbi. Moreover, candidates need to fill out one basic application form instead of different forms for all kinds of search jobs. Employers can only add certain customized questions as per their requirements. As a result, there is no need for lengthy repetitive applications. All these features speed up the job search process and satisfy the needs of the clients quickly and effectively. http://www.jobbi.com/ There is stiff competition in the job market. Unemployment is on the rise. Large numbers of applications are received by companies for limited number of posts. But there is dearth of skilled manpower in the industry. So both potential find a job resort to online job portals which are a powerful medium in the era of Internet. There are certain websites which offer better services if paid for them. But, Jobbi.com is one exception that provides all its services absolutely free.

Jobbi.com believes in keeping things simple and easy as far as possible. The registration process of the site consists of few easy steps unlike other sites whose sign up process is unnecessarily lengthy and time consuming. The user can straightway apply for jobs or post his jobs after the completion of registration process. The portal also offers free resume search for candidates so that they can get access to best of resumes to build their effective profiles. It also has three samples or templates of resume which the user can copy and paste and then edit to suit their requirements.

Apart from employers and job seekers, other users are also benefited by Jobbi.com. Its HeadHunt program enables users to search for potential candidates and jobs and provide them to employers and candidates. So they act as a connecting medium between employers and employees. But, companies don’t make payments to these headhunters for providing them manpower. Instead, they are adequately compensated by Jobbi. Moreover, candidates need to fill out one basic application form instead of different forms for all kinds of search jobs. Employers can only add certain customized questions as per their requirements. As a result, there is no need for lengthy repetitive applications. All these features speed up the job search process and satisfy the needs of the clients quickly and effectively.
http://www.jobbi.com/

]]> By: Coach Phil http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/14/5-ways-to-get-a-job-way-above-your-experience/#comment-146273 Coach Phil Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:55:28 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/14/5-ways-to-get-a-job-way-above-your-experience/#comment-146273 Great article. Everyone should always aspire to better themselves. What better way to better yourself than better your career? Great article. Everyone should always aspire to better themselves. What better way to better yourself than better your career?

]]> By: How to Hire a New-Grad: Lessons from a Gen-Y perspective | The egg carton http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/14/5-ways-to-get-a-job-way-above-your-experience/#comment-146099 How to Hire a New-Grad: Lessons from a Gen-Y perspective | The egg carton Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:01:18 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/14/5-ways-to-get-a-job-way-above-your-experience/#comment-146099 [...] Look at what Penelope Trunk has to say about direct work experience [...] […] Look at what Penelope Trunk has to say about direct work experience […]

]]> By: Speaker City » links for 2008-04-15 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/14/5-ways-to-get-a-job-way-above-your-experience/#comment-145994 Speaker City » links for 2008-04-15 Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:16:36 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/14/5-ways-to-get-a-job-way-above-your-experience/#comment-145994 [...] How to get a job that’s way beyond your experience » Brazen Careerist by Penelope Trunk Usually the list of requirements for a job like this is a little beyond your experience. So how do you get one? (tags: brazen careerist penelope) [...] […] How to get a job that’s way beyond your experience » Brazen Careerist by Penelope Trunk Usually the list of requirements for a job like this is a little beyond your experience. So how do you get one? (tags: brazen careerist penelope) […]

]]> By: The Big Move Debate « The Quarter-life Chronicles http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/14/5-ways-to-get-a-job-way-above-your-experience/#comment-145872 The Big Move Debate « The Quarter-life Chronicles Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:44:12 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/14/5-ways-to-get-a-job-way-above-your-experience/#comment-145872 [...] How to get a job that’s way beyond your experience [via Zemanta] [...] […] How to get a job that’s way beyond your experience [via Zemanta] […]

]]> By: Allura http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/14/5-ways-to-get-a-job-way-above-your-experience/#comment-145526 Allura Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:27:34 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/14/5-ways-to-get-a-job-way-above-your-experience/#comment-145526 There are enough unqualified idiots around. When you need something done -- whether it's intake at a hospital or getting your car fixed -- I hope you aren't served by someone in the job way beyond their experience! There are enough unqualified idiots around. When you need something done — whether it’s intake at a hospital or getting your car fixed — I hope you aren’t served by someone in the job way beyond their experience!

]]> By: Steve Dean http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/14/5-ways-to-get-a-job-way-above-your-experience/#comment-145427 Steve Dean Fri, 18 Apr 2008 00:25:13 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/14/5-ways-to-get-a-job-way-above-your-experience/#comment-145427 and now demand some sort of credibility, like working for EDS or Deloitte, or a proven track record. That is the hard part of number 2. EDS??? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I agree with some of the best salesman in the business, but once the contract is signed and all of your IT people have been laid-off, then they will screw you big time. and now demand some sort of credibility, like working for EDS or Deloitte, or a proven track record. That is the hard part of number 2.

EDS??? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree with some of the best salesman in the business, but once the contract is signed and all of your IT people have been laid-off, then they will screw you big time.

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