Comments on: Writing without typos is totally outdated http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/04/writing-without-typos-is-totally-outdated/ Advice at the intersection of work and life Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:04:56 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Fixing flaws might require help « TalentedApps http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/04/writing-without-typos-is-totally-outdated/comment-page-4/#comment-212760 Fixing flaws might require help « TalentedApps Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:33:06 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/04/writing-without-typos-is-totally-outdated/#comment-212760 [...] I am also on the lookout for rationalization opportunities, so god bless Penelope Trunk, who told me it’s not important. [...] [...] I am also on the lookout for rationalization opportunities, so god bless Penelope Trunk, who told me it's not important. [...]

]]> By: Kate Somple http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/04/writing-without-typos-is-totally-outdated/comment-page-4/#comment-212719 Kate Somple Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:45:04 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/04/writing-without-typos-is-totally-outdated/#comment-212719 the link to this april 2008 blog was forwarded to me by someone I emailed- pointing his attention to a few misspelled words in a webinar i was taking that was offered by his company. he was grateful for the oversight, which led us to the discussion of the paradigm shift related to, according to your blog, the decrease in the importance of spelling and grammar spawned by the new economy of communication and social networking. i care not when i read a blog, a tweet or text that has basic misspellings or an occasional incorrect noun to verb singular or plural correlation. my choice to be an accurate speller and grammarian is simply that. here is where i take you to the mat (no contentiousness implied) on a few of your conclusions: first, that good spellers are uptight control-freaks. second, that bad spelling is an organic side effect (my words, not yours) of the popularity of social networking. as a fellow writer i am fully aware of the importance of substance over form, and the advantage of the stream-of-consciousness writing process for spawning creative thoughts. there is no debate there. however, i am not aware of any social networking requirement to hit the 'send' key, whether on a cell phone or a laptop, without thought or notion to editing anything beyond spell check (if even that). hitting send to share your thoughts with the world without some kind of editing is one of the most short sighted, undisciplined actions any career minded person can take, even in today's anything goes world. leaving the responsibility of editing for one's sloppy writing to the recipient is dangerous,and worse, a lame excuse for laziness. it is not difficult to overlook the forms and froms typos, as you point out. however no social networking 'new way of doing business' should ever be held out to justify laziness or lack of discipline on mistakes like "there way of thinking", or, "her palet is trained to taste the suttlties". i agree to disagree with your opinion, and have also chosen to offer further food for thought on the issue of what kind of message we are giving our kids when we send them to school to 'learn' spelling and grammar, yet model for them that they simply are no longer relevant in today's society. the link to this april 2008 blog was forwarded to me by someone I emailed- pointing his attention to a few misspelled words in a webinar i was taking that was offered by his company. he was grateful for the oversight, which led us to the discussion of the paradigm shift related to, according to your blog, the decrease in the importance of spelling and grammar spawned by the new economy of communication and social networking. i care not when i read a blog, a tweet or text that has basic misspellings or an occasional incorrect noun to verb singular or plural correlation. my choice to be an accurate speller and grammarian is simply that. here is where i take you to the mat (no contentiousness implied) on a few of your conclusions: first, that good spellers are uptight control-freaks. second, that bad spelling is an organic side effect (my words, not yours) of the popularity of social networking. as a fellow writer i am fully aware of the importance of substance over form, and the advantage of the stream-of-consciousness writing process for spawning creative thoughts. there is no debate there. however, i am not aware of any social networking requirement to hit the 'send' key, whether on a cell phone or a laptop, without thought or notion to editing anything beyond spell check (if even that). hitting send to share your thoughts with the world without some kind of editing is one of the most short sighted, undisciplined actions any career minded person can take, even in today's anything goes world. leaving the responsibility of editing for one's sloppy writing to the recipient is dangerous,and worse, a lame excuse for laziness. it is not difficult to overlook the forms and froms typos, as you point out. however no social networking 'new way of doing business' should ever be held out to justify laziness or lack of discipline on mistakes like "there way of thinking", or, "her palet is trained to taste the suttlties". i agree to disagree with your opinion, and have also chosen to offer further food for thought on the issue of what kind of message we are giving our kids when we send them to school to 'learn' spelling and grammar, yet model for them that they simply are no longer relevant in today's society.

]]> By: Are all Millennials bad spellers or is it just me? « The Perennial Millennial http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/04/writing-without-typos-is-totally-outdated/comment-page-4/#comment-210629 Are all Millennials bad spellers or is it just me? « The Perennial Millennial Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:06:25 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/04/writing-without-typos-is-totally-outdated/#comment-210629 [...] agree with Penelope Trunk that writing without typos is totally outdated, and in my blog I always try to focus on the content and less on being perfect. But it still makes [...] [...] agree with Penelope Trunk that writing without typos is totally outdated, and in my blog I always try to focus on the content and less on being perfect. But it still makes [...]

]]> By: Which part did you like? Oh, actually that was my editor’s idea… « That being said http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/04/writing-without-typos-is-totally-outdated/comment-page-4/#comment-200343 Which part did you like? Oh, actually that was my editor’s idea… « That being said Wed, 16 Sep 2009 04:04:06 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/04/writing-without-typos-is-totally-outdated/#comment-200343 [...] yet I lost the basics. Penelope Trunk has asked commenters to get over typos in other people’s blogs for the reason that obsessing on gaffes stymies a blogger’s [...] [...] yet I lost the basics. Penelope Trunk has asked commenters to get over typos in other people's blogs for the reason that obsessing on gaffes stymies a blogger's [...]

]]> By: Ben Goodman http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/04/writing-without-typos-is-totally-outdated/comment-page-4/#comment-189780 Ben Goodman Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:16:27 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/04/writing-without-typos-is-totally-outdated/#comment-189780 Penelope - As you say, perfectionism is a mental illness (I am a long-time sufferer). Nevertheless, there remain four good reasons why bloggers should use spellcheckers. This could apply under any circumstances, including chat-type blogs dashed off in a hurry, but especially for any lengthy blog that is more of a short essay than a quick response: 1. Typos can convey a meaning other than the one intended. 2. Repeated misspellings of the same word reflect on the author's fundamental ability to spell. 3. Typos create the impression that the author's thinking is as hurried and disorganized as his or her spelling. 4. The blog entry might be read by a potential employer or funder that is turned off by careless spelling and grammar and the disrespect shown to the reader by not bothering to proofread one's own language. Ben Goodman Penelope -

As you say, perfectionism is a mental illness (I am a long-time sufferer). Nevertheless, there remain four good reasons why bloggers should use spellcheckers. This could apply under any circumstances, including chat-type blogs dashed off in a hurry, but especially for any lengthy blog that is more of a short essay than a quick response:

1. Typos can convey a meaning other than the one intended.

2. Repeated misspellings of the same word reflect on the author's fundamental ability to spell.

3. Typos create the impression that the author's thinking is as hurried and disorganized as his or her spelling.

4. The blog entry might be read by a potential employer or funder that is turned off by careless spelling and grammar and the disrespect shown to the reader by not bothering to proofread one's own language.

Ben Goodman

]]> By: DodaPedia » Blog Archive » Good grammar might derail your career http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/04/writing-without-typos-is-totally-outdated/comment-page-4/#comment-188002 DodaPedia » Blog Archive » Good grammar might derail your career Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:19:49 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/04/writing-without-typos-is-totally-outdated/#comment-188002 [...] note that I am not talking about typos, even though I do think you should largely ignore them. Writing without typos is outdated. It’s impossible to proofread your own work, and it is not financially viable to produce [...] [...] note that I am not talking about typos, even though I do think you should largely ignore them. Writing without typos is outdated. It’s impossible to proofread your own work, and it is not financially viable to produce [...]

]]> By: Michael http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/04/writing-without-typos-is-totally-outdated/comment-page-4/#comment-186671 Michael Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:40:05 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/04/writing-without-typos-is-totally-outdated/#comment-186671 in my opinion, typos should be completely obliviated....the more we get used to them the more we become unable to tell what is right and what is wrong in my opinion, typos should be completely obliviated….the more we get used to them the more we become unable to tell what is right and what is wrong

]]> By: Blogging, English and Me — ReviewPk http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/04/writing-without-typos-is-totally-outdated/comment-page-4/#comment-186537 Blogging, English and Me — ReviewPk Sat, 30 May 2009 15:59:06 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/04/writing-without-typos-is-totally-outdated/#comment-186537 [...] was reading a post “Writing without typos is totally outdated by Penelope” and decided not to worry this “English” [...] [...] was reading a post "Writing without typos is totally outdated by Penelope" and decided not to worry this "English" [...]

]]> By: Manashree http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/04/writing-without-typos-is-totally-outdated/comment-page-4/#comment-186039 Manashree Wed, 20 May 2009 11:33:39 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/04/writing-without-typos-is-totally-outdated/#comment-186039 I totally agree with Tom Byron. Thanks for your post. I totally agree with Tom Byron. Thanks for your post.

]]> By: Manashree http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/04/writing-without-typos-is-totally-outdated/comment-page-4/#comment-186038 Manashree Wed, 20 May 2009 11:31:11 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/04/writing-without-typos-is-totally-outdated/#comment-186038 I agree with Sarah here. Yes, Penelope is right that an Editor is not a proofreader. As Sarah says, everyone is improved by an Editor when they write. I agree with Sarah here. Yes, Penelope is right that an Editor is not a proofreader. As Sarah says, everyone is improved by an Editor when they write.

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