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	<title>Comments on: A recession probably won&#039;t affect your job market</title>
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		<title>By: Darien&#8217;s blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Five reasons why a recession is a good time to start a company</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/03/13/a-recession-probably-wont-affect-your-job-market/comment-page-1/#comment-187001</link>
		<dc:creator>Darien&#8217;s blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Five reasons why a recession is a good time to start a company</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 03:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] startup teams. A common perception about recessions is that jobs are put in jeopardy. This may not be true, but if people feel nervous about their job security, they probably will not want to leave a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/03/13/a-recession-probably-wont-affect-your-job-market/comment-page-1/#comment-183289</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just the headline of this article alone will likely catch some off guard. Now that 2009 is here, there might be more room for alternative solutions.

Since we&#039;re also talking about being more creative during this economic slump, why not think outside the box of looking to work for another in the first place?

I&#039;m rather amazed that there are plenty of skill sets that are for whatever reason not &quot;conventional&quot; enough to be taught in schools, but the mastery of which would lead to more autonomy.

Most of us are trained to be employees- nothing wrong with that, but I&#039;m convinced that thinking that way is a kind of tunnel vision that keeps many from learning skills that wold allow them to carve out there own path to income.

One of them is as close as the computer in front of you. For the first time in history, we are 3 feet in front of the world, yet few learn how to use it in a way to render 1) value to others and 2)income for themselves.

leavethejobbehind.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just the headline of this article alone will likely catch some off guard. Now that 2009 is here, there might be more room for alternative solutions.</p>
<p>Since we&#039;re also talking about being more creative during this economic slump, why not think outside the box of looking to work for another in the first place?</p>
<p>I&#039;m rather amazed that there are plenty of skill sets that are for whatever reason not &#034;conventional&#034; enough to be taught in schools, but the mastery of which would lead to more autonomy.</p>
<p>Most of us are trained to be employees- nothing wrong with that, but I&#039;m convinced that thinking that way is a kind of tunnel vision that keeps many from learning skills that wold allow them to carve out there own path to income.</p>
<p>One of them is as close as the computer in front of you. For the first time in history, we are 3 feet in front of the world, yet few learn how to use it in a way to render 1) value to others and 2)income for themselves.</p>
<p>leavethejobbehind.com</p>
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		<title>By: zumpie</title>
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		<dc:creator>zumpie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just stumbled across this---and while I foresaw the recession coming back when this was written, obviously many people (including the rather naive author) did not. If I weren&#039;t currently unemployed (and yes, I have plenty of experience and marketable skills), I&#039;d laugh at how stupid this article is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just stumbled across this&#8212;and while I foresaw the recession coming back when this was written, obviously many people (including the rather naive author) did not. If I weren&#039;t currently unemployed (and yes, I have plenty of experience and marketable skills), I&#039;d laugh at how stupid this article is.</p>
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		<title>By: can i have a word with you? &#187; Blog Archive &#187; why you need to start dating your employer.</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/03/13/a-recession-probably-wont-affect-your-job-market/comment-page-1/#comment-179879</link>
		<dc:creator>can i have a word with you? &#187; Blog Archive &#187; why you need to start dating your employer.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ignored the scares of the recession and job-hopped. I start on Monday. I know right now everyone is worried about keeping their jobs, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kingsley Tagbo - IT Career Coach</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/03/13/a-recession-probably-wont-affect-your-job-market/comment-page-1/#comment-175728</link>
		<dc:creator>Kingsley Tagbo - IT Career Coach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my blog readers ... just emailed me saying that they lost their job ... I will say that people are losing their jobs alright!

I also posted an article titled &quot;How To Keep Your Job In A Recession&quot; ... it is a simple solution and may be of interest to your readers as well :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my blog readers &#8230; just emailed me saying that they lost their job &#8230; I will say that people are losing their jobs alright!</p>
<p>I also posted an article titled &#034;How To Keep Your Job In A Recession&#034; &#8230; it is a simple solution and may be of interest to your readers as well :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hard to take this article seriously when your wife gets made redundant at 20 weeks pregnant.  Great, sure, there are plenty of jobs.  Just not for pregnant women - because despite all protests to the contrary, pregnant women do not get offered jobs.  Getting laid off now means she faces months of unemployment with no real prospect of work.

We now must wait until baby has been born before she can get back into the workforce.  Particularly tricky as I must postpone my university studies (I&#039;m a Ph.D candidate) to get into the workforce to cover the sudden loss of her income (she was primary breadwinner).

I know this is a bit off topic, but my advice to any preganant women out there is this: don&#039;t tell anyone at work.  Deny it for as long as possible if people start asking if you&#039;re pregnant.  You have nothing to gain and everything to lose by disclosing this information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hard to take this article seriously when your wife gets made redundant at 20 weeks pregnant.  Great, sure, there are plenty of jobs.  Just not for pregnant women &#8211; because despite all protests to the contrary, pregnant women do not get offered jobs.  Getting laid off now means she faces months of unemployment with no real prospect of work.</p>
<p>We now must wait until baby has been born before she can get back into the workforce.  Particularly tricky as I must postpone my university studies (I&#039;m a Ph.D candidate) to get into the workforce to cover the sudden loss of her income (she was primary breadwinner).</p>
<p>I know this is a bit off topic, but my advice to any preganant women out there is this: don&#039;t tell anyone at work.  Deny it for as long as possible if people start asking if you&#039;re pregnant.  You have nothing to gain and everything to lose by disclosing this information.</p>
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		<title>By: Five Recession Proof Careers for Graduates &#8212; Money Under 30</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/03/13/a-recession-probably-wont-affect-your-job-market/comment-page-1/#comment-147574</link>
		<dc:creator>Five Recession Proof Careers for Graduates &#8212; Money Under 30</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 16:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I covered jobs for recent grads with good prospects and high pay. Even though I agree that an economic slump will not affect the under-30 set’s job prospects, here is a look at five career fields that will still be hiring, even in the toughest of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I covered jobs for recent grads with good prospects and high pay. Even though I agree that an economic slump will not affect the under-30 set’s job prospects, here is a look at five career fields that will still be hiring, even in the toughest of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Must Pay Taxes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Must Pay Taxes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 03:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are already in a recession. 

And it will get worse. 

If a Democrat gets elected the multinationals will get taxed and money printed which will ease things for awhile and then they will crash as they must since we did nothing to fix the economy.

If McCain gets elected then we fight wars of empire and do not change what we are doing so instead of a steep up followed by a crash we get an even slide further dowards.  

As much as I&#039;d like to see the social reform of Ron Paul, his pure Austrian economic model would have tanked what remains of our economy good.

There is a solution. Fix what we are doing and then use nationalization as a driver for productivity: in order. We did exactly that when confronted with a Cold War. Check out some of the articles at The Paleo Conservatist. I read them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are already in a recession. </p>
<p>And it will get worse. </p>
<p>If a Democrat gets elected the multinationals will get taxed and money printed which will ease things for awhile and then they will crash as they must since we did nothing to fix the economy.</p>
<p>If McCain gets elected then we fight wars of empire and do not change what we are doing so instead of a steep up followed by a crash we get an even slide further dowards.  </p>
<p>As much as I&#039;d like to see the social reform of Ron Paul, his pure Austrian economic model would have tanked what remains of our economy good.</p>
<p>There is a solution. Fix what we are doing and then use nationalization as a driver for productivity: in order. We did exactly that when confronted with a Cold War. Check out some of the articles at The Paleo Conservatist. I read them.</p>
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		<title>By: Saunders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please be careful of what you tell people.  You&#039;re selling a fantasy.  Things are going to get really, really tough for a lot of good, honest hard working people.

Nature has a way of cleaning itself.  If you actually stop, close your eyes and think about all this crap we&#039;ve created, you will understand why we need a deep cleaning and you wont be shocked when it comes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please be careful of what you tell people.  You&#039;re selling a fantasy.  Things are going to get really, really tough for a lot of good, honest hard working people.</p>
<p>Nature has a way of cleaning itself.  If you actually stop, close your eyes and think about all this crap we&#039;ve created, you will understand why we need a deep cleaning and you wont be shocked when it comes.</p>
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		<title>By: sailormouth</title>
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		<dc:creator>sailormouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 

One quibble is that almost all Gen Y&#039;ers, at least those out of school now, have only had experience in bad economies. Most of us graduated in 2001 or later  (or not at all yet), hardly boom times. Job-hopping has become something of a necessity for us rather than anything strategic, but I agree with your premise that in the long-run we&#039;re better off for it. Once the masters of the universe figure out that our parents and grandparents are overpaid and overhoused, things will actually start looking better for us. We&#039;ve been able to thrive in what is arguably the worst economic situation since at least the 1970&#039;s, some people are saying the 1930&#039;s, once there is an actual labor shortage the demand seen now will seem like lean times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>One quibble is that almost all Gen Y&#039;ers, at least those out of school now, have only had experience in bad economies. Most of us graduated in 2001 or later  (or not at all yet), hardly boom times. Job-hopping has become something of a necessity for us rather than anything strategic, but I agree with your premise that in the long-run we&#039;re better off for it. Once the masters of the universe figure out that our parents and grandparents are overpaid and overhoused, things will actually start looking better for us. We&#039;ve been able to thrive in what is arguably the worst economic situation since at least the 1970&#039;s, some people are saying the 1930&#039;s, once there is an actual labor shortage the demand seen now will seem like lean times.</p>
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