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	<title>Comments on: A recession probably won&#039;t affect your job market</title>
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	<description>Advice at the intersection of work and life</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/03/13/a-recession-probably-wont-affect-your-job-market/#comment-168690</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hard to take this article seriously when your wife gets made redundant at 20 weeks pregnant.  Great, sure, there are plenty of jobs.  Just not for pregnant women - because despite all protests to the contrary, pregnant women do not get offered jobs.  Getting laid off now means she faces months of unemployment with no real prospect of work.

We now must wait until baby has been born before she can get back into the workforce.  Particularly tricky as I must postpone my university studies (I'm a Ph.D candidate) to get into the workforce to cover the sudden loss of her income (she was primary breadwinner).

I know this is a bit off topic, but my advice to any preganant women out there is this: don't tell anyone at work.  Deny it for as long as possible if people start asking if you're pregnant.  You have nothing to gain and everything to lose by disclosing this information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hard to take this article seriously when your wife gets made redundant at 20 weeks pregnant.  Great, sure, there are plenty of jobs.  Just not for pregnant women - because despite all protests to the contrary, pregnant women do not get offered jobs.  Getting laid off now means she faces months of unemployment with no real prospect of work.</p>
<p>We now must wait until baby has been born before she can get back into the workforce.  Particularly tricky as I must postpone my university studies (I&#039;m a Ph.D candidate) to get into the workforce to cover the sudden loss of her income (she was primary breadwinner).</p>
<p>I know this is a bit off topic, but my advice to any preganant women out there is this: don&#039;t tell anyone at work.  Deny it for as long as possible if people start asking if you&#039;re pregnant.  You have nothing to gain and everything to lose by disclosing this information.</p>
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		<title>By: Five Recession Proof Careers for Graduates &#8212; Money Under 30</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/03/13/a-recession-probably-wont-affect-your-job-market/#comment-147574</link>
		<dc:creator>Five Recession Proof Careers for Graduates &#8212; Money Under 30</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 16:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I covered jobs for recent grads with good prospects and high pay. Even though I agree that an economic slump will not affect the under-30 set’s job prospects, here is a look at five career fields that will still be hiring, even in the toughest of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I covered jobs for recent grads with good prospects and high pay. Even though I agree that an economic slump will not affect the under-30 set’s job prospects, here is a look at five career fields that will still be hiring, even in the toughest of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Must Pay Taxes</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/03/13/a-recession-probably-wont-affect-your-job-market/#comment-146933</link>
		<dc:creator>Must Pay Taxes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 03:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are already in a recession. 

And it will get worse. 

If a Democrat gets elected the multinationals will get taxed and money printed which will ease things for awhile and then they will crash as they must since we did nothing to fix the economy.

If McCain gets elected then we fight wars of empire and do not change what we are doing so instead of a steep up followed by a crash we get an even slide further dowards.  

As much as I'd like to see the social reform of Ron Paul, his pure Austrian economic model would have tanked what remains of our economy good.

There is a solution. Fix what we are doing and then use nationalization as a driver for productivity: in order. We did exactly that when confronted with a Cold War. Check out some of the articles at The Paleo Conservatist. I read them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are already in a recession. </p>
<p>And it will get worse. </p>
<p>If a Democrat gets elected the multinationals will get taxed and money printed which will ease things for awhile and then they will crash as they must since we did nothing to fix the economy.</p>
<p>If McCain gets elected then we fight wars of empire and do not change what we are doing so instead of a steep up followed by a crash we get an even slide further dowards.  </p>
<p>As much as I&#039;d like to see the social reform of Ron Paul, his pure Austrian economic model would have tanked what remains of our economy good.</p>
<p>There is a solution. Fix what we are doing and then use nationalization as a driver for productivity: in order. We did exactly that when confronted with a Cold War. Check out some of the articles at The Paleo Conservatist. I read them.</p>
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		<title>By: Saunders</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/03/13/a-recession-probably-wont-affect-your-job-market/#comment-140758</link>
		<dc:creator>Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please be careful of what you tell people.  You're selling a fantasy.  Things are going to get really, really tough for a lot of good, honest hard working people.

Nature has a way of cleaning itself.  If you actually stop, close your eyes and think about all this crap we've created, you will understand why we need a deep cleaning and you wont be shocked when it comes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please be careful of what you tell people.  You&#039;re selling a fantasy.  Things are going to get really, really tough for a lot of good, honest hard working people.</p>
<p>Nature has a way of cleaning itself.  If you actually stop, close your eyes and think about all this crap we&#039;ve created, you will understand why we need a deep cleaning and you wont be shocked when it comes.</p>
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		<title>By: sailormouth</title>
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		<dc:creator>sailormouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 16:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 

One quibble is that almost all Gen Y'ers, at least those out of school now, have only had experience in bad economies. Most of us graduated in 2001 or later  (or not at all yet), hardly boom times. Job-hopping has become something of a necessity for us rather than anything strategic, but I agree with your premise that in the long-run we're better off for it. Once the masters of the universe figure out that our parents and grandparents are overpaid and overhoused, things will actually start looking better for us. We've been able to thrive in what is arguably the worst economic situation since at least the 1970's, some people are saying the 1930's, once there is an actual labor shortage the demand seen now will seem like lean times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>One quibble is that almost all Gen Y&#039;ers, at least those out of school now, have only had experience in bad economies. Most of us graduated in 2001 or later  (or not at all yet), hardly boom times. Job-hopping has become something of a necessity for us rather than anything strategic, but I agree with your premise that in the long-run we&#039;re better off for it. Once the masters of the universe figure out that our parents and grandparents are overpaid and overhoused, things will actually start looking better for us. We&#039;ve been able to thrive in what is arguably the worst economic situation since at least the 1970&#039;s, some people are saying the 1930&#039;s, once there is an actual labor shortage the demand seen now will seem like lean times.</p>
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		<title>By: Olga Reidy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olga Reidy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Penelope, 
I love your blog! It's the best! What software did you use to create this page? Thank you for your help. Olga</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Penelope,<br />
I love your blog! It&#039;s the best! What software did you use to create this page? Thank you for your help. Olga</p>
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		<title>By: The Recession-Proof Generation &#124; www.realworldreally.com</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/03/13/a-recession-probably-wont-affect-your-job-market/#comment-139000</link>
		<dc:creator>The Recession-Proof Generation &#124; www.realworldreally.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] those of us in Generation Y (people born between 1978 and 1990), it&#8217;s unlikely. According to Penelope Trunk, author of The Brazen Careerist, The health of today&#8217;s job market is not so much a function [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] those of us in Generation Y (people born between 1978 and 1990), it&#039;s unlikely. According to Penelope Trunk, author of The Brazen Careerist, The health of today&#039;s job market is not so much a function [...]</p>
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		<title>By: karen m</title>
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		<dc:creator>karen m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://jimstroud.com/2008/01/21/karen-rants-stop-saying-that-there-is-a-war-for-talent/ 

I had hoped that link may show, please forgive the double post
Karen</description>
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<p>I had hoped that link may show, please forgive the double post<br />
Karen</p>
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		<title>By: karen m</title>
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		<dc:creator>karen m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So often I see this alleged oh the boomers Are retiring, and oh there is a problem with regards to a recession, but yet with very little data and information.

1 - There are 1 MILLION Less jobs that were added to the economy in 2007 - than there was in 2006 - that is More than Half the number of jobs - Every year we have More People ENTERING the Workforce, than we have Jobs for them.. 

2- Generation Y makes up a LARGER demographic population than Boomers - by the Mass Millions, and the last boomer is Not expected to Retire until 2037 - wow, by then Gen y's kids will have entered into the market

3- 85 Percent of boomers are not retiring which is Affecting the workforce

4 - we have more jobs being given to foreign entities and H1 rather than given to qualified talent.. thus we are unreasonably displacing our own workers

5 - AS LONG as salaries continue to fall, 4 times in the last 5 years, we can determine that there Is NOT and is Going to be a War for talent

THE RECESSION which started last year HAS ALREADY affected employment..

People Please LOOK at the Payroll numbers.. Jobs Per thousand ! those are the ONLY Accurate information that one should use to determine the job market crisis

Karen Mattonen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So often I see this alleged oh the boomers Are retiring, and oh there is a problem with regards to a recession, but yet with very little data and information.</p>
<p>1 - There are 1 MILLION Less jobs that were added to the economy in 2007 - than there was in 2006 - that is More than Half the number of jobs - Every year we have More People ENTERING the Workforce, than we have Jobs for them.. </p>
<p>2- Generation Y makes up a LARGER demographic population than Boomers - by the Mass Millions, and the last boomer is Not expected to Retire until 2037 - wow, by then Gen y&#039;s kids will have entered into the market</p>
<p>3- 85 Percent of boomers are not retiring which is Affecting the workforce</p>
<p>4 - we have more jobs being given to foreign entities and H1 rather than given to qualified talent.. thus we are unreasonably displacing our own workers</p>
<p>5 - AS LONG as salaries continue to fall, 4 times in the last 5 years, we can determine that there Is NOT and is Going to be a War for talent</p>
<p>THE RECESSION which started last year HAS ALREADY affected employment..</p>
<p>People Please LOOK at the Payroll numbers.. Jobs Per thousand ! those are the ONLY Accurate information that one should use to determine the job market crisis</p>
<p>Karen Mattonen</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Forester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Forester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 06:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jobs and unemployment are totally based on the state of the economy. See job security entry in Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_security) and you will see why economy is the number driver of jobs and unemployment. Or better still, go and check your Job Security Score at www.jobsecurityscore.com and do some research on this economic analysis site (www.scorelogix.com) and you will agree with me. I have been unemployed during last recession and everytime economy slows down or goes into recession I find the number of unemployed people I know spike.

The national Job Security Index has been going down for a few months now, so it's time for some of us to get worried.

--Ken--</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jobs and unemployment are totally based on the state of the economy. See job security entry in Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_security) and you will see why economy is the number driver of jobs and unemployment. Or better still, go and check your Job Security Score at <a href="http://www.jobsecurityscore.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.jobsecurityscore.com</a> and do some research on this economic analysis site (www.scorelogix.com) and you will agree with me. I have been unemployed during last recession and everytime economy slows down or goes into recession I find the number of unemployed people I know spike.</p>
<p>The national Job Security Index has been going down for a few months now, so it&#039;s time for some of us to get worried.</p>
<p>&#8211;Ken&#8211;</p>
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