One of the worst pieces of career advice that I bet each of you has not only gotten but given is to “do what you love.”
Forget that. It’s absurd. I have been writing since before I even knew how to write – when I was a preschooler I dictated my writing to my dad. And you might not be in preschool, but if you are in touch with who you are, you are doing what you love, no matter what, because you love it.
So it’s preposterous that we need to get paid to do what we love because we do that stuff anyway. So you will say, “But look. Now you are getting paid to do what you love. You are so lucky.” But it’s not true. We are each multifaceted, multilayered, complicated people, and if you are reading this blog, you probably devote a large part of your life to learning about yourself and you know it’s a process. None us loves just one thing.
I am a writer, but I love sex more than I love writing. And I am not getting paid for sex. In fact, as you might imagine, my sex life is really tanking right now. But I don’t sit up at night thinking, should I do writing or sex? Because career decisions are not decisions about “what do I love most?” Career decisions are about what kind of life do I want to set up for myself?
So how could you possibly pick one thing you love to do? And what would be the point?
The world reveals to you all that you love by what you spend time on. Try stuff. If you like it, you’ll go back to it. I just tried Pilates last month. I didn’t want to try, but a friend said she loved the teacher, so I went. I loved it. I have taken it three times a week ever since. And it’s changed me. I stand up straighter. (I’d also have better sex, if I were having it. The Pilates world should advertise more that it improves your sex life: Totally untapped market.)
Often, the thing we should do for our career is something we would only do if we were getting a reward. If you tell yourself that your job has to be something you’d do even if you didn’t get paid, you’ll be looking for a long time. Maybe forever. So why set that standard? The reward for doing a job is contributing to something larger than you are, participating in society, and being valued in the form of money.
The pressure we feel to find a perfect career is insane. And, given that people are trying to find it before they are thirty, in order to avoid both a quarterlife crisis and a biological-clock crisis, the pressure is enough to push people over the edge. Which is why one of the highest risk times for depression in life is in one’s early twenties when people realize how totally impossible it is to simply “do what you love.”
Here’s some practical advice: Do not what you love; do what you are. It’s how I chose my career. I bought the book with that title – maybe my favorite career book of all time – and I took the quickie version of the Myers-Briggs test. The book gave me a list of my strengths, and a list of jobs where I would likely succeed based on those strengths.
Relationships make your life great, not jobs. But a job can ruin your life – make you feel out of control in terms of your time or your ability to accomplish goals – but no job will make your life complete. It’s a myth mostly propagated by people who tell you to do what you love. Doing what you love will make you feel fulfilled. But you don’t need to get paid for it.
A job can save your life, though. If you are lost, and lonely, and wondering how you’ll ever find your way in this world. Take a job. Any job. Because structure, and regular contact with regular people, and a method of contributing to a larger group are all things that help us recalibrate ourselves.
So if you are overwhelmed with the task of “doing what you love” you should recognize that you are totally normal, and maybe you should just forget it. Just do something that caters to your strengths. Do anything.
And if you are so overwhelmed that you feel depression coming on, consider that a job might save you. Take one. Doing work and being valued in the community is important. For better or worse, we value people with money. Earn some. Doing work you love is not so important. We value love in relationships. Make some.
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My ex-step-grandfather is a passionate music collector, mostly jazz. His basement is filled, floor to ceiling with records (those old, black, round things) and CD’s. He’s got encyclopedic knowledge of recording down there. Once in awhile, he would be asked to guest host a local jazz radio show and he was so good, the station owner offered him a job. He turned it down. “If I HAD to go do a radio show every day it wouldn’t be fun anymore.” Smart man.
Posted by Chris on December 19, 2007 at 2:33 pm | permalink |
I’m afraid I’m going to have to stop reading your work. Even when I started ducking any column that clearly telegraphs that it’s going to be about your marriage, counseling, and so on, I keep getting taking unaware by side references to same. Argh. This is a shame, because I value much of what you have to say otherwise.
Not that you’re likely to take this advice, but perhaps another venue for your writing on this subject would help people like me enjoy your work? Clearly you ‘love’ to bring up these subjects; maybe it shouldn’t be your ‘work’ here?
Posted by Stephen S on December 19, 2007 at 3:26 pm | permalink |
Penelope –
I liked it but was somewhat confused.
Why choose one thing you love? Why limit yourself? Why not choose more than one thing? Yes, we all become sick of even the things we love after a while. Everyone needs a break. But that’s why we love the things we do – we keep going back to them.
My grandfather told me, “Do that thing you would do even if no one paid you to do it”. But, also being an ENTJ and a borderline Type A, I’m not stopping at one thing. There’s too much to see / do / experience. Myers-Briggs shows tendencies, and that’s as good a place as any to start.
Doing the thing or things that fulfill us most may or may not involve work. Hopefully they don’t. Hopefully we understand ourselves well enough to find them, whatever they may be.
Posted by Jerry on December 19, 2007 at 4:37 pm | permalink |
Read the article… agree with the points… your fans and comment geeks (no offense) write really long responses… I can’t read them all, though I wish I could… I have no social life cuz of work and I’m 30… I’m tired… waiting for retirement…
Posted by Steven on December 19, 2007 at 8:38 pm | permalink |
I have to agree and disagree with your analysis, Penelope. On the one hand, I think it’s a bad idea to make your one and only true passion your job. If you do that, you will just have your professional life, and if that goes sour, you will have nothing to fall back to in your free time.
But on the other hand there are times when you have to do what you like, and that really needs to be the deciding factor. I firmly believe that you cannot finish graduate school unless you study something you’re enthusiastic about; if you choose a career requiring an advanced degree just by how much money you will get, you are probably setting yourself up for failure.
Posted by Mathias Ricken on December 19, 2007 at 11:32 pm | permalink |
As Tim, Jerry, and a couple of other commenters have pointed out, this assumes that there is only one thing you love. Aren’t you what you love? Is it a crime to love more than one thing?
It can be stressful to work at one thing that you love and have that stress make it something you hate. I’m taking Creative Writing in uni because I love writing but now I can’t stand it! However, it’s not the writing I can’t stand per se; it’s being judged on my writing, writing for an assignment or academic purpose. I prefer writing as a means of expressing myself and letting my thoughts go – which is at complete odds with university writing.
So when you end up with a job you “love” but turn out to detest, see if there’s something about the framework of the job you’re actually detesting. Maybe you don’t like to be dictated by others. Maybe you don’t like having to micro-manage things. Maybe you’d rather work on the fly, on your own schedule, instead of a pre-determined one. Maybe you are anti-authority, or maybe you like a lot of authority. Maybe you only like it in small doses (I love Jelly Belly jellybeans but I can’t stand more than 2 or 3 at a time).
Barbara Sher has a great series of books about Scanners – people with more than one passion trying to juggle them all. She argues (and I agree) that trying to pick one thing is futile. Rather, a Scanner should make space for their passions, no matter how small. Sometimes some passions don’t need to be expressed the whole way – for example, you may love both sewing and painting, but while you’re passionate about the business of fashion and get to express your sewing skills that way, you may be content with just painting a picture a month and no further.
I think an issue many of us are facing is that if you are good at something, or you’re passionate at something, you HAVE to go ALL THE WAY with it. You *have* to make money, or you *have* to be a successful expert, or something. A lot of budding craftsters, for instance, tend to focus too much on making things they can sell – rather than just enjoying the process of crafting. Just enjoying the process has become underrated.
In short: You can’t separate what you love from who you are. They’re integral to each other. Trying to do something you don’t love (and therefore isn’t what you are) will only tire you. However, there are different ways to express your love for something, and you can love many different things, so it’s up to you to find that balance that works for you. Whether it becomes a hobby or a job or something in between…that’s your call.
Posted by Tiara on December 20, 2007 at 1:39 am | permalink |
haha, another way to put it:
People don’t respect amateurs anymore! Everyone has to be a professional at their passion, apparently…
…but says who? Why can’t amateurs get respect?
Posted by Tiara on December 20, 2007 at 1:40 am | permalink |
I find Penelope smart, for choosing carefully selected topics that are bound to :
1) create controversy by giving advice contrary to expected beliefs
2) appeal to the majority (95%) of people who sell their souls and abandon their real dreams because they are afraid. This will help them ‘rationalize’ their choices and make them feel better.
Posted by Anirban on December 20, 2007 at 2:12 am | permalink |
Interesting:
“People will choose to work because they love what they do. ” – Penelope Trunk, in ‘The end of work as we know it.
Posted by Anirban on December 20, 2007 at 3:20 am | permalink |
As a veteran of two successful career changes, I couldn’t disagree more w/this post. The key to a successful career is finding a. what you love and b. what you’re good at and c. identifying the intersection between the two. Many of us are good at things but aren’t passionate about them. And if you get stuck JUST doing something you’re good at, you will burn out eventually out of sheer boredom. Conversely, as you note in this post, you may fancy yourself a jazz singer but have no ability in that field so it just won’t work.
Finally, not to nitpick, but as the person who commented above me just noted, I think you’ve suggested the exact opposite in at least 2 other posts in the past year.
I’m a big fan of your blog but must disagree on this one. thanks….
Posted by delia boylan on December 20, 2007 at 5:49 am | permalink |
There is one problem with that. What if you are the type of person that, for whatever reason, tends to love all the things that don’t pay or you can’t REALLY make a living on? OR your not good at? That’s the boat I am in. Everything I would love to do, I am either not good at or it isn’t realistic to try to live (only) off of it. I’m tired of being poor, I’m tired of not being good at my work. I used to believe in that bull about “Do what you love”. That’s great if you love science or business or engineering or math or many of the other thousands of things that are real careers. But if you love art? There is a 99% chance you are wasting your time, since there are more artists that are mediocre than there are geniuses. And there are A LOT of people who love the arts. Then, what if you go into something that you kind of like and find your not good at it? No, I’m tired of this “Do what you love” b.s. Better to find a job that allows me to do what I love on the side and make a decent, successful living doing it.
Posted by Sharon on March 7, 2012 at 5:02 pm | permalink |
Life is a journey enjoy the trip and do not look for the destination. So far in my career I had received ‘Love what you do’ advice many a time and I am still in search of that thing which I love. When I begin love the job. suddenly something happens and there is stone in the water and ripples.
Posted by Bob Mould on December 20, 2007 at 7:56 am | permalink |
stupid advice. and get married before you have sex again if you want a good sex life. you are advocating the most mundane/dated advice in history….work hard for $$$$ and play hard on the weekends. wow, groundbreaking. I feel sorry for you.
Posted by brad on December 20, 2007 at 9:25 am | permalink |
The recent post telling parents of 20 somethings to give their kids a chance to find what they truly love doing before settling for a job with a big corporation seems to contradict this article.
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I can see where you’d say that. Giving people time to find their way in the world is different than telling people they need to find a perfect, dream job.
-Penelope
Posted by leslie on December 20, 2007 at 2:14 pm | permalink |
Penelope-Call me, you know the number:)
Good blog. Thanks for your insights.
Posted by D Shawgo on December 20, 2007 at 5:30 pm | permalink |
This is great writing. I hear what you are saying but I can’t help but see – QUITE PLAINLY – that you are doing what you love now. Do you get paid to write? You are great at it. I can tell your entire heart, mind and soul is in it. it’s crystal clear. You say you like sex better than writing, and I know this is brazen for a stranger to differ with you since I don’t know you at – but I differ with you. I think if you were having sex all the time, your first love WRITING would be calling you from the bed. It’s my own personal observation, and I could be entirely wrong. But I think you are doing what you love, exactly, you have found your passion, perfect bulls-eye, and I applaud you and I hope you are getting lots of $$$$$$$ for it.
I think the only way to be happy in life is to do what you love.
I like inspiring people, making people happy and writing, and I don’t get paid a lot of money for it, heck practically none at all, but it’s what I love and having found my total purpose in life I wouldn’t dream of going back to a steady paycheck. I just want to be happy every day. Doing what I love.
You’re website is awesome. I’m glad I found it.
love, lisa
Posted by Lisa Natoli on December 21, 2007 at 9:03 am | permalink |
Also, to reply to one of the comments above – happiness is NOT temporary and fleeting. I can absolutely state this is true. HAPPINESS IS CONSTANT AND UNCHANGING. It’s our natural state. Everything else is opposition to our natural state of happiness. One must actually use (waste) energy to be depressed, angry, sad, lonely because in order to be these things you have to oppose the natural state of happiness.
Happiness is what is what we are. It’s how we were created. Everything else was learned here in space and time.
Posted by Lisa Natoli on December 21, 2007 at 9:08 am | permalink |
Penelope,
Thanks for this and all your posts. I left six figures as a 26 year old PR spokeswoman for one of the biggest consumer goods companies in the world three years ago to “do what I love” – write and perform music, release an album internationally and tour the world! I used my PR skills to get lots of good ink, including being featured in Billboard Magazine, NY Daily News and many other publications. But what I haven’t done is break even. I cashed in my 401K, sold my car, moved to NYC and now what? Even though I know I’m great at doing “what I love”, the real money in music comes from huge record labels, not independent ones, and now, at 29, I find myself setting music aside, a bit resentfully at that, and looking to re-enter the workforce.
I am faced with starting over from scratch (and without transportation unless I force myself to stay in New York just for the MTA, which is crazy), and I’m extremely overwhelmed.
Hindsight is now of course 20-20, and I completely agree with your opinions above (NOW.. only after experiencing being “broke” and – gasp – unemployed!).
Now I just have to practice positive thinking 200 times more than I did when I left security for the unknown in an idealistic effort to make the world a better place. And maybe watch “The Pursuit of Happyness” over and over and over again… ;*)
Posted by Malena on December 21, 2007 at 10:42 pm | permalink |
Hi Malena,
I’ve read your comment and I have to write a reply because of how eerily very similar both of us seem to be (and I’m going to turn 29 this August, also a ‘struggling’ passionate musician).
If you by any chance read this comment of mine, I hope you don’t mind that I’d like to connect and talk more with you personally.
You can directly email me at nikiwonoto@gmail.com, or even add me in Facebook (same email address), and we’ll continue there. There are some things that I even also experienced exactly like yours, and thus I want to ask you some personal questions. once again, I hope you don’t mind this.
I’ll be waiting
Posted by Niki on April 10, 2011 at 11:04 pm | permalink |
I’m going to the wiring here…specifically the DNA variety. If we all are one in six billion, which is true, then we must live what we were made to do. I see it as living out what has been poured into us. I was almost 40 before I figured out what that was…the poured stuff.
I agree that we shouldn’t speak in terms of what we love to do. That almost places the answer outside of ourselves when the answer has been inside us all the time.
Unfortunately, the world we live in conspires to choke out all that makes for a great life. And far too many people give in…
Posted by Eric Pennington on December 21, 2007 at 11:56 pm | permalink |
Someone was telling me this a few weeks ago, and I poo-pooed him as another small-thinking naysayer trying to crush my dreams. Now that Penelope is saying it, I feel like I poo-pooed prematurely. Now I must ponder.
Also, some sex workers do continue to enjoy sex when it is their livelihood. I had a friend who was a professional dominatrix. When I asked her about it one day, she gushed about how much she loved her job and how she couldn’t imagine doing any other kind of work.
Posted by Charlie - hope&spray on December 23, 2007 at 4:39 am | permalink |
I agree that people often misinterpret the meaning of “Do What You Love.” They think that if they are passionate enough about something, they’ll be able to get someone to pay them to do it. However, last time I checked, our economy isn’t made up of professional beer drinks, or bad novelists, or phone sex operators.
In the throes of my very own quarter-life crisis, I have to agree with Penelope that “doing what you love” isn’t meant to be directed to just your job. No one loves just one thing, one function, one goal. Happiness is like a puzzle, it takes a lot of smaller pieces that need to learn how to fit together in order to fulfill your ultimate vision.
Posted by The Office Newb on December 23, 2007 at 7:21 pm | permalink |
“The pressure we feel to find a perfect career is insane.” So, shouldn’t we start with forgetting our careers? And then do what we love?
Posted by Mattijs Kneppers on December 24, 2007 at 7:38 am | permalink |
An interesting post, which has generated some really fascinating responses. I think the post does contradict others posted on the site, so perhaps that´s something to bear in mind. No matter though, so long as it gets people thinking and it helps them.
My own feeling is that there are a couple of things to remember. Firstly, do what you love and the money will follow places too much emphasis on the financial rewards. I`ve struggled financially like many people, so I know as well as anybody how important that is, but the evidence from positive psychology continually tells us we don´t get any happier for having more than a reasonable amount of income. Whatever that is! Doing what you love – happiness is not about the money. It´s about a balanced approach to life, based on pleasure, relationships and meaning.
Secondly, there’s room for doing what you love in life, but who says it´s just the one thing? Not many people would realistically be able to earn a living doing solely what they love, and I certainly wouldn`t advise making oneself ill in the pursuit of such an occupation. However we can try to do more of what we love at work, or re-frame our attitudes to work to learn to get more out of work, if necessary. Or working to enable us to do what we love outside of work is a worthwhile pursuit. That´s the gist of our article on doing what you love.
Regards
Phil
Posted by Phil on December 25, 2007 at 9:39 am | permalink |
How about “Do what you like”?
I love playing classical music but I’m not good enough to be a concert pianist and job market for teachers of the arts is crowded.
I like computers, wall street —> business analyst.
Posted by Jeremiah on December 26, 2007 at 7:59 am | permalink |
I love all of the feed back on this post! It has given me things to think about. I too have fallen into the trap of thinking that I have to find something that I love to do for a living. Unfortunately for me (fortunately for them) I have a husband and a father that both love what they do for a living. Doing these things for employment and to support a family did not tarnish the love of the jobs for them. I find myself comparing myself to that and feeling a little jealous at times that I have not found that thing that I love. I thought I was all alone!! It is good to know that I am not alone out there in the abyss of jobs and careers!
Posted by Carol on December 28, 2007 at 10:13 am | permalink |
I was happy to see this post, as it is something I definitely have been telling a few people I know. I work to provide enough so I can do the things I love. Ever since reading “Your Money or Your Life” by Joe Dominguez and Vicki Robin, I’ve come to terms with the fact that my job does not define ME.
But I think a few commenters hit it on the head as well. Somehow, finding a job you can tolerate and really succeed at usually involves something you love. I love research, detail and writing, and so my work in the legal profession provides me with a lot of those things. Do I live for my job? No. Does having those things make it easier to continue my job? Definitely.
Posted by Lane on December 28, 2007 at 11:51 am | permalink |
“Don’t do what you love, do what you are”?
Especially when this advice is geared to those at the beginnings of their career tracks, I see it more of a limiting way of looking at things.
It isn’t only like one is something and most likely will be the same/similar forever, she also “become”s something different than what she is every passing moment. And I believe, it is doing things we feel passionate about that adds a lot into that becoming.
“Love what you become.”
How about this?
Posted by Necati Topyıldız on December 28, 2007 at 9:02 pm | permalink |
Oh, C’mon folks. Let’s cut this thing to the quick.
Isn’t the real problem how to make enough money, fast enough, young enough, that you can free yourself from the rat race, without having to do things that suck.
Once you own your own life, then you can do anything you want, *regardless* of the income. You want to be a hedonist, fine… you want to solve cancer… fine too.
So job one is getting out off the entrapping terrain of the economy as it has been built, to keep the vast majority fueling the fortunes of the few, true?
Interestingly I asked three of four business schools if they had expended any research effort on how the average person could do that, starting with little or nothing. And if the they hadn’t just what were they studying, since this question is the most important business question for the most people.
Only one answered, and stated essentially, “You raise a good point, but we don’t have an answer, here’s the link to our catalog”.
Interestingly one of the silent questionees was Harvard Business School… LOL! They know they are trying to churn out the elites, not allow for defectors to freedom. LOL!
Isn’t it about time we hold our leaders feet to the fire to take us where *we* want to go (which most likely is to live as well as they do) rather than were they want to take us?
Posted by flmason on January 3, 2008 at 6:38 pm | permalink |
Well said, thank you!
I think a danger of doing what you’re good at(but don’t necessarily *love*) is becoming trapped in that career path. Next thing you know you’re spinning the wheel just like every other rat in the cage.
Posted by Sue on April 2, 2011 at 12:54 pm | permalink |
You are never trapped if you have enough money to get out of it.
Posted by Sharon on March 7, 2012 at 5:11 pm | permalink |
@flmason: good points.
You are totally correct when you said that there’s something is terribly wrong with the current education system today.
if any of you’re interested, I strongly recommend to watch “Waiting for Superman” (available in DVD, and also online?), it will basically really open your eyes even more of how messed-up our current education system is, ie: bad unqualified teachers, problems with bureaucracy and politics, and of how basically it only teaches you *wrongly* to just be another mediocre corporate slaves.
We need to seriously break away from this and work on solution, if we ever want a true, real meaningful great changes, if not in our generation, then for our children/next generation!
Posted by Niki on April 11, 2011 at 12:26 am | permalink |
From one writer to another – I totally agree with the sex part
Posted by j on February 23, 2008 at 10:40 am | permalink |
Penelope, an absolutely bloody brilliant post, wow like a shot of tequila, wow! It has hit the right places, thank you SO much!
Lise :^)
Posted by Lise Sutherland-Fraser on March 12, 2008 at 6:53 am | permalink |
thanks so much for this advice as well as the advice to take the myers-briggs test! changed my life……
Remain Blessed~
Posted by grace on April 8, 2008 at 7:43 pm | permalink |
Thank you so much Penelope for your candid commonsense wisdom. I am one of the people that thought that a job would complete me or whatever. It takes much stress off of me to know that I am totally wrong. I’m taking your advice and now that I see clearly, I’m heading in the right direction.
Posted by Ashln on May 18, 2008 at 11:55 pm | permalink |
” do what you love ” can be explained according to every single point of view. It can be considered good or bad advice or nether depending on how you look at it. For example, I can tell you this now, do what you love, if you love not getting paid for what you love doing then this is the action you love to do. If you love to consider this advice as bad advice and not follow it. You are yet “doing” (writing-action of doing)” what you love” ( trying to convince others doing what you want love is a bad advice).
Posted by Hope on May 30, 2008 at 1:59 am | permalink |
Thanks Penelope! Many of your points struck a chord with me. My career is a process that continues to unfold along with my life. There are certainly days when I love what I do but there are also days when I work for the rewards you mentioned.
Posted by Ellen Hart on June 16, 2008 at 12:15 am | permalink |