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	<title>Comments on: Twentysomething: Why I regret getting straight A&#039;s in college</title>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have around a 3.4 Cumulative GPA.

I&#039;ve been in College for 4 years and have only gone to three different &quot;College parties.&quot; It isn&#039;t what I wanted to do and has never been a big interest of mine. I&#039;ve also worked five different jobs while attending College and this has been one reason why my GPA isn&#039;t above a 3.5(Not that it really matters that much, honestly).

If you are seriously studying 60-80 per week in a subject that you don&#039;t even enjoy just for the sake of getting high grades(With no intention of Graduate school) then this is just plain stupid. 

If graduate schools didn&#039;t care about my GPA then I probably wouldn&#039;t have above a 3.0- A lot of times the GPA doesn&#039;t even correlate to what I have learned in the course; but more so towards how I can slave towards what a certain Professor is looking for. 

I will say that I could probably still get into graduate school with a little lower GPA and obsessing over marks on a paper is no way to life your live. I&#039;m an Economics major by the way.</description>
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<p>I&#039;ve been in College for 4 years and have only gone to three different &#034;College parties.&#034; It isn&#039;t what I wanted to do and has never been a big interest of mine. I&#039;ve also worked five different jobs while attending College and this has been one reason why my GPA isn&#039;t above a 3.5(Not that it really matters that much, honestly).</p>
<p>If you are seriously studying 60-80 per week in a subject that you don&#039;t even enjoy just for the sake of getting high grades(With no intention of Graduate school) then this is just plain stupid. </p>
<p>If graduate schools didn&#039;t care about my GPA then I probably wouldn&#039;t have above a 3.0- A lot of times the GPA doesn&#039;t even correlate to what I have learned in the course; but more so towards how I can slave towards what a certain Professor is looking for. </p>
<p>I will say that I could probably still get into graduate school with a little lower GPA and obsessing over marks on a paper is no way to life your live. I&#039;m an Economics major by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: How far will your BA get you? &#124; TalentEgg Career Incubator</title>
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		<dc:creator>How far will your BA get you? &#124; TalentEgg Career Incubator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] students share my doubts. In high school, we were sold the “golden ticket” dream. They said all we need is a university degree — any degree — and we&#8217;ll be set for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, you make a great point about how as parents you make a lot of sacrifices in the name of your kids - too many to even count (not that you keep score).  It was no free ride for me, and my mom and dad were definitely not &#039;connected.&#039;  As a result, it is up to me to turn tide for my kids and let me tell you it is tough (2 FT jobs, never sleep, baby on the way).  And this is despite graduating college (and getting a masters).  So, kiddos if you have the luxury to &#039;party&#039; a bit in school you can thank dear old mom and dad for giving you a competitive starting point - and you can bet that they got old and boring by doing the things that it takes to put you where you are.

However, I am 27 years old and I can definitely identify with Jon.  I agree with the sandbox analogy and think that college students underestimate the significance of this &#039;trial&#039; period.  I say as long as you have the opportunity (and money earned, not given), and it will not permanently damage your future, then try it.  At least then you will not have to live with the &#039;what if&#039;s?&#039; because life comes at you fast and you can&#039;t always take a &#039;make up.&#039; 

I was a math/civil engineering major and I too spent many 20-hour days studying to get that great GPA.  I didn&#039;t have much of a social life to speak of, although I was involved in various honor societies.  After working for 4 years I have found that I could have gotten to my current point (data monkey working for people with 20+ years experience by day, pizza delivery driver by night)-using half the energy.  nobody really cares how smart you were in school - you have to create &#039;perceived&#039; value for them.  Otherwise you will be known as a &#039;book-smart&#039; person who cant get the job done.

With that said, i do think that if I had toned it down a bit on the studies, maybe I would have had time to develop a more well-rounded social network (and possibly get more relevant work experience).  If the network panned out then maybe &#039;party friends&#039; could have became clients one day. My opinion is that the association with these friends would have been strategically much more valuable (and comforting!) to me than the ability to prove that every vector space has a basis, or how to solve second-order partial differential equations.  I have not needed 1/4 of the stuff I learned in school, and I work in a technical profession.  I know that sounds rough, but really, the company only cares about bottom line, and if your network allows you to land a $1M project then you have solidified your position more than any clever (smart) design could have.  So my conclusion is that yes, grades can matter, but I think the social network is a much more powerful tool when it comes to making money in the workforce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, you make a great point about how as parents you make a lot of sacrifices in the name of your kids &#8211; too many to even count (not that you keep score).  It was no free ride for me, and my mom and dad were definitely not &#039;connected.&#039;  As a result, it is up to me to turn tide for my kids and let me tell you it is tough (2 FT jobs, never sleep, baby on the way).  And this is despite graduating college (and getting a masters).  So, kiddos if you have the luxury to &#039;party&#039; a bit in school you can thank dear old mom and dad for giving you a competitive starting point &#8211; and you can bet that they got old and boring by doing the things that it takes to put you where you are.</p>
<p>However, I am 27 years old and I can definitely identify with Jon.  I agree with the sandbox analogy and think that college students underestimate the significance of this &#039;trial&#039; period.  I say as long as you have the opportunity (and money earned, not given), and it will not permanently damage your future, then try it.  At least then you will not have to live with the &#039;what if&#039;s?&#039; because life comes at you fast and you can&#039;t always take a &#039;make up.&#039; </p>
<p>I was a math/civil engineering major and I too spent many 20-hour days studying to get that great GPA.  I didn&#039;t have much of a social life to speak of, although I was involved in various honor societies.  After working for 4 years I have found that I could have gotten to my current point (data monkey working for people with 20+ years experience by day, pizza delivery driver by night)-using half the energy.  nobody really cares how smart you were in school &#8211; you have to create &#039;perceived&#039; value for them.  Otherwise you will be known as a &#039;book-smart&#039; person who cant get the job done.</p>
<p>With that said, i do think that if I had toned it down a bit on the studies, maybe I would have had time to develop a more well-rounded social network (and possibly get more relevant work experience).  If the network panned out then maybe &#039;party friends&#039; could have became clients one day. My opinion is that the association with these friends would have been strategically much more valuable (and comforting!) to me than the ability to prove that every vector space has a basis, or how to solve second-order partial differential equations.  I have not needed 1/4 of the stuff I learned in school, and I work in a technical profession.  I know that sounds rough, but really, the company only cares about bottom line, and if your network allows you to land a $1M project then you have solidified your position more than any clever (smart) design could have.  So my conclusion is that yes, grades can matter, but I think the social network is a much more powerful tool when it comes to making money in the workforce.</p>
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		<title>By: mental_floss Blog &#187; December 5, 2007</title>
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		<dc:creator>mental_floss Blog &#187; December 5, 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why I regret getting straight A’s in college. Although this is a regret most people will never have to face, she raises some [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>with these grades not going to graduate school of ANY kind has probably been the biggest mistake you will ever make in your entire life!!!!!!!!!!!!
For your shake, i honestly hope this blog is filled with lies, and that you didint spend all that time and effort to get those marks and do nothing with them. I honestly feel pity for you!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>with these grades not going to graduate school of ANY kind has probably been the biggest mistake you will ever make in your entire life!!!!!!!!!!!!<br />
For your shake, i honestly hope this blog is filled with lies, and that you didint spend all that time and effort to get those marks and do nothing with them. I honestly feel pity for you!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Striking a Balance &#124; Girls with Dreams.com - Advice for Teens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Striking a Balance &#124; Girls with Dreams.com - Advice for Teens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 00:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reading a quick blog, I discovered someone who managed 37 A&#8217;s and 3 B&#8217;s in college. He claims that he would [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sorry Guys &#171; Jess and Josh Talk About Stuff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sorry Guys &#171; Jess and Josh Talk About Stuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 00:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Blah. Sorry this is just such a blatant Debbie Downer post. Good news: two of my final grades have been posted, and they&#8217;re both A&#8217;s. But that may not matter at all. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Blah. Sorry this is just such a blatant Debbie Downer post. Good news: two of my final grades have been posted, and they&#039;re both A&#039;s. But that may not matter at all. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ((little fat notebook)) &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A reflection on college: what is it for?</title>
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		<dc:creator>((little fat notebook)) &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A reflection on college: what is it for?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 09:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] read articles on why this guy regretted getting straight A&#8217;s in college, tips on what college students should do to prepare themselves for their professional future, and a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 02:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great article and I refer back to it often. My sister-in laws kids are now off to college and I&#039;m going to send this article there way. I made a 3.8 as an undergrad and I think thats good enough. I think work is good but you need to relax and enjoy yourself also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great article and I refer back to it often. My sister-in laws kids are now off to college and I&#039;m going to send this article there way. I made a 3.8 as an undergrad and I think thats good enough. I think work is good but you need to relax and enjoy yourself also.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Annunities</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Annunities</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snappy, to work for the government, especially the CIA/FBI, you must have at least a 3.0 GPA (B) and not have any criminal record (including sealed minor crimes), don&#039;t do drugs, or have any DUI&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snappy, to work for the government, especially the CIA/FBI, you must have at least a 3.0 GPA (B) and not have any criminal record (including sealed minor crimes), don&#039;t do drugs, or have any DUI&#039;s.</p>
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