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	<title>Comments on: Yahoo column: The art of quitting</title>
	<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/11/23/yahoo-column-the-art-of-quitting/</link>
	<description>Advice at the intersection of work and life</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: genelleme</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/11/23/yahoo-column-the-art-of-quitting/#comment-136937</link>
		<dc:creator>genelleme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 12:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/11/23/yahoo-column-the-art-of-quitting/#comment-136937</guid>
		<description>Thanks for a great blog that's always worth reading</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a great blog that&#8217;s always worth reading</p>
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		<title>By: perde</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/11/23/yahoo-column-the-art-of-quitting/#comment-136935</link>
		<dc:creator>perde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 12:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/11/23/yahoo-column-the-art-of-quitting/#comment-136935</guid>
		<description>[…] The Boomer Chronicles wrote an interesting post today!.Here’s a quick excerpt One of the most overlooked skills in the workplace is figuring out when to leave. Of course, there are the obvious situations, like when a boss is losing his mind, or a company is about to go under. But most situations aren’t so black and white. The best way to figure out what to do next is to envision what you’re trying to accomplish. Then you can see what the process of separation might look like and what you might end up with when you move to another job. Here some tips on how to do just t […]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] The Boomer Chronicles wrote an interesting post today!.Here’s a quick excerpt One of the most overlooked skills in the workplace is figuring out when to leave. Of course, there are the obvious situations, like when a boss is losing his mind, or a company is about to go under. But most situations aren’t so black and white. The best way to figure out what to do next is to envision what you’re trying to accomplish. Then you can see what the process of separation might look like and what you might end up with when you move to another job. Here some tips on how to do just t […]</p>
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		<title>By: Fabulous Financials v2.0 &#187; When Life Throws You Lemons, Get Tipsy And Blog Hop Through the Financial Blogosphere&#8230;LOL!</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/11/23/yahoo-column-the-art-of-quitting/#comment-135045</link>
		<dc:creator>Fabulous Financials v2.0 &#187; When Life Throws You Lemons, Get Tipsy And Blog Hop Through the Financial Blogosphere&#8230;LOL!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 12:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/11/23/yahoo-column-the-art-of-quitting/#comment-135045</guid>
		<description>[...] The Art of Quitting I saved this one in the queue when I was at a crossroad this month. Another helpful career oriented blog I ran across during that time was TheJobBored. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The Art of Quitting I saved this one in the queue when I was at a crossroad this month. Another helpful career oriented blog I ran across during that time was TheJobBored. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Blog - Simuladores de Credito</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/11/23/yahoo-column-the-art-of-quitting/#comment-134135</link>
		<dc:creator>Blog - Simuladores de Credito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/11/23/yahoo-column-the-art-of-quitting/#comment-134135</guid>
		<description>Absolutelly correct - Sometimes the better thing to do is QUITTING... 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutelly correct - Sometimes the better thing to do is QUITTING&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Is this really happening? &#124; Challenge and Support</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/11/23/yahoo-column-the-art-of-quitting/#comment-127445</link>
		<dc:creator>Is this really happening? &#124; Challenge and Support</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/11/23/yahoo-column-the-art-of-quitting/#comment-127445</guid>
		<description>[...] time that you start asking yourself, &#8220;What can I drop and still survive this year?&#8221; No, dropping the job is not an option. Sure would be funny to watch, though, wouldn&#8217;t it? I mean, I&#8217;d get a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] time that you start asking yourself, &#8220;What can I drop and still survive this year?&#8221; No, dropping the job is not an option. Sure would be funny to watch, though, wouldn&#8217;t it? I mean, I&#8217;d get a [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/11/23/yahoo-column-the-art-of-quitting/#comment-113307</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/11/23/yahoo-column-the-art-of-quitting/#comment-113307</guid>
		<description>I've submitted my resume both with month / year and only year included. For the resumes with only the year showing, no one ever asked for more information, or indicated I was leaving something out. I got my past two jobs with year-only resumes

Just my own experience talking, but if you're a good candidate, I doubt that companies will reject you simply for leaving off month of employment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve submitted my resume both with month / year and only year included. For the resumes with only the year showing, no one ever asked for more information, or indicated I was leaving something out. I got my past two jobs with year-only resumes</p>
<p>Just my own experience talking, but if you&#8217;re a good candidate, I doubt that companies will reject you simply for leaving off month of employment.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/11/23/yahoo-column-the-art-of-quitting/#comment-113305</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/11/23/yahoo-column-the-art-of-quitting/#comment-113305</guid>
		<description>This is a great post - lots of times, people just quit without thinking ahead. It's great to hear someone encourage foresight. If at all possible, have multiple options before quitting a job. I recommend interviewing often, if only to keep your interviewing skills up and options open!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great post - lots of times, people just quit without thinking ahead. It&#8217;s great to hear someone encourage foresight. If at all possible, have multiple options before quitting a job. I recommend interviewing often, if only to keep your interviewing skills up and options open!</p>
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		<title>By: bill martinea</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/11/23/yahoo-column-the-art-of-quitting/#comment-113088</link>
		<dc:creator>bill martinea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/11/23/yahoo-column-the-art-of-quitting/#comment-113088</guid>
		<description>As a professional recruiter I have a couple things to add about the inclusion of all jobs and correct dates on resumes.  Personally I'm a stickler for all the details as I work for my client companies trying to present them with their "ideal" candidate not just the ones that are close.  So I disagree with the premise of leaving information off of the resume.  However, even if you are presenting your resume directly to a company you must understand your target market (since this is a marketing documet).  Do the HR people you know want all the details?  YES.  Will they think you are in fact trying to deceive them if they find information contray to your resume? YES. and will your candidacy suffer when they find out all the details?  YES.

So ask yourself if your covering things up (lying) or dressing things up (marketing) and make sure your comfortable answering all the questions during the interview or you will find your reputation tarnished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a professional recruiter I have a couple things to add about the inclusion of all jobs and correct dates on resumes.  Personally I&#8217;m a stickler for all the details as I work for my client companies trying to present them with their &#8220;ideal&#8221; candidate not just the ones that are close.  So I disagree with the premise of leaving information off of the resume.  However, even if you are presenting your resume directly to a company you must understand your target market (since this is a marketing documet).  Do the HR people you know want all the details?  YES.  Will they think you are in fact trying to deceive them if they find information contray to your resume? YES. and will your candidacy suffer when they find out all the details?  YES.</p>
<p>So ask yourself if your covering things up (lying) or dressing things up (marketing) and make sure your comfortable answering all the questions during the interview or you will find your reputation tarnished.</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/11/23/yahoo-column-the-art-of-quitting/#comment-113059</link>
		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/11/23/yahoo-column-the-art-of-quitting/#comment-113059</guid>
		<description>Great post.. I am moving for both the reasons &#38; a personal one. Rather trivial, but was over looked for promotion. I know it is stupid, but left a scar deep down.. will move to a global role, with challenging technology. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.. I am moving for both the reasons &amp; a personal one. Rather trivial, but was over looked for promotion. I know it is stupid, but left a scar deep down.. will move to a global role, with challenging technology. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Caitlin</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/11/23/yahoo-column-the-art-of-quitting/#comment-113044</link>
		<dc:creator>Caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/11/23/yahoo-column-the-art-of-quitting/#comment-113044</guid>
		<description>To follow up on Penelope's last comment to LM:

It's perfectly fine to just have the &lt;b&gt;years&lt;/b&gt; that you've worked at a place on your resume, You really don't need to have months or, god forbid, months and days. It just doesn't need to be that specific. 

This approach gives the interviewer enough information to base an interview around but has two advantages for the job hunter. 

Firstly, it can make short stints appear longer - 2004 to 2006 could mean Dec 2004 to Jan 2006, which is really only just over a year. I'm not suggestion deception - if you are asked for more specific dates, you should give them. But there's no need to draw attention to something if you feel it's a potential weakness.

Secondly, it means you don't have to waste time in the interview accounting for short gaps, which is a distraction from the task of trying to sell yourself. 

My resume just has years. It's not because I job-hop but just because after 11 years' experience it simply doesn't seem necessary to drill down to so much detail unless I asked. And I am never asked so I can only presume that recruiters and/or hiring managers feel the same way.

I don't know if I would go so far as Penelope and advocating leaving jobs off my resume. However, jobs can drop off the bottom. I no longer list the the non-career jobs I did at or soon after university.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To follow up on Penelope&#8217;s last comment to LM:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s perfectly fine to just have the <b>years</b> that you&#8217;ve worked at a place on your resume, You really don&#8217;t need to have months or, god forbid, months and days. It just doesn&#8217;t need to be that specific. </p>
<p>This approach gives the interviewer enough information to base an interview around but has two advantages for the job hunter. </p>
<p>Firstly, it can make short stints appear longer - 2004 to 2006 could mean Dec 2004 to Jan 2006, which is really only just over a year. I&#8217;m not suggestion deception - if you are asked for more specific dates, you should give them. But there&#8217;s no need to draw attention to something if you feel it&#8217;s a potential weakness.</p>
<p>Secondly, it means you don&#8217;t have to waste time in the interview accounting for short gaps, which is a distraction from the task of trying to sell yourself. </p>
<p>My resume just has years. It&#8217;s not because I job-hop but just because after 11 years&#8217; experience it simply doesn&#8217;t seem necessary to drill down to so much detail unless I asked. And I am never asked so I can only presume that recruiters and/or hiring managers feel the same way.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if I would go so far as Penelope and advocating leaving jobs off my resume. However, jobs can drop off the bottom. I no longer list the the non-career jobs I did at or soon after university.</p>
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