Comments on: Forget email bankruptcy; try Getting Things Done bankruptcy http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/10/29/forget-email-bankruptcy-try-getting-things-done-bankruptcy/ Advice at the intersection of work and life Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:29:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Declaring GTD Bankruptcy » ActivityOwner.Com – Getting Things Done with MindManager http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/10/29/forget-email-bankruptcy-try-getting-things-done-bankruptcy/comment-page-1/#comment-259002 Declaring GTD Bankruptcy » ActivityOwner.Com – Getting Things Done with MindManager Mon, 29 Aug 2011 02:57:17 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/10/29/forget-email-bankruptcy-try-getting-things-done-bankruptcy/#comment-259002 [...] This process facilitated some renegotiation with myself on some aging tasks. One example stale item was "reconcile credit card transactions in Quicken". In practice, changing this to "reconcile end of year credit card balance with placeholder transaction" was really sufficient. In the end, most of my "committed" tasks have migrated over, but a sizeable chunk of my stale tasks have been renegotiated or dropped. I'm surprised this concept isn't common out there in the GTD venacular beyond an entry from Penelope Trunk . [...] [...] This process facilitated some renegotiation with myself on some aging tasks. One example stale item was "reconcile credit card transactions in Quicken". In practice, changing this to "reconcile end of year credit card balance with placeholder transaction" was really sufficient. In the end, most of my "committed" tasks have migrated over, but a sizeable chunk of my stale tasks have been renegotiated or dropped. I'm surprised this concept isn't common out there in the GTD venacular beyond an entry from Penelope Trunk . [...]

]]> By: Bullish: How To Be A Productivity Unicorn « : TheGloss - A gloss on beauty, fashion, style, love and more http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/10/29/forget-email-bankruptcy-try-getting-things-done-bankruptcy/comment-page-1/#comment-243619 Bullish: How To Be A Productivity Unicorn « : TheGloss - A gloss on beauty, fashion, style, love and more Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:20:20 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/10/29/forget-email-bankruptcy-try-getting-things-done-bankruptcy/#comment-243619 [...] Trunk wrote memorably about declaring to-do list bankruptcy. She’s a [...] [...] Trunk wrote memorably about declaring to-do list bankruptcy. She's a [...]

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]]> By: Ann http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/10/29/forget-email-bankruptcy-try-getting-things-done-bankruptcy/comment-page-1/#comment-113050 Ann Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:02:14 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/10/29/forget-email-bankruptcy-try-getting-things-done-bankruptcy/#comment-113050 At first I panicked and imagined that the email of my lifetime was somehow locked in that Outlook view that will never come back. But then things got sort of cushy. For one thing, my B and C list totally went away because people reminded me about stuff on my A list, but no one said a word about the other stuff and I couldn’t remember most of it. At first I panicked and imagined that the email of my lifetime was somehow locked in that Outlook view that will never come back. But then things got sort of cushy. For one thing, my B and C list totally went away because people reminded me about stuff on my A list, but no one said a word about the other stuff and I couldn’t remember most of it.

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]]> By: Peter C http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/10/29/forget-email-bankruptcy-try-getting-things-done-bankruptcy/comment-page-1/#comment-110334 Peter C Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:17:54 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/10/29/forget-email-bankruptcy-try-getting-things-done-bankruptcy/#comment-110334 You might want to try Google stuff. Email, Calendar, Contacts, etc. It's probably more intuitive than Outlook, and is stored remotely so you can access it anywhere. It's more hip and less stodgy and dorky, too. Sure you'll need to learn some new things but its worth it. No one at Cannes uses Outlook. You might want to try Google stuff. Email, Calendar, Contacts, etc. It's probably more intuitive than Outlook, and is stored remotely so you can access it anywhere. It's more hip and less stodgy and dorky, too. Sure you'll need to learn some new things but its worth it. No one at Cannes uses Outlook.

]]> By: Scot Herrick http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/10/29/forget-email-bankruptcy-try-getting-things-done-bankruptcy/comment-page-1/#comment-110254 Scot Herrick Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:31:25 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/10/29/forget-email-bankruptcy-try-getting-things-done-bankruptcy/#comment-110254 <p>Self-management is really about control and perspective. The GTD methodology provides both, but both needs to be executed.</p> <p>The context lists (not A, B, C lists) need to have some thought around them for what the actual next thing is to be done. This is not easy when starting out, but this is the control part.</p> <p>The perspective part is doing a Weekly Review -- a weekly reflection time where you analyze what you are doing with your process and your lists. Without the reflection time, there is no perspective.</p> <p>When I first implemented GTD, I significantly overcomplicated the entire process (and this one, Penelope, sounds like you really overcomplicated it!) and didn't really spend enough time reflecting on how I was doing things.</p> <p>While I didn't have a GTD bankruptcy, I've redone my system three times over 2.5 years -- each more simplified and closer to the book implementation than the one before. I've done this because I tried to over-engineer the discipline and didn't take the time to consistently reflect on how I was doing stuff.</p> <p>I have not seen a more flexible system. It works for organization nuts by having a place for everything as well as for people who hate regimentation by getting things out of your head and into a trusted system so that you can be free to do whatever spontaneous thing you want to do...</p> <p>Keep working it. With all the things happening right now for you, a trusted system to park stuff is going to be very important to maintain balance. Perhaps sanity...</p> * * * * * * <I> Thanks for the comment, Scott. You have good perspective. You actually make me want to give the whole thing another try. Thanks for the inpsiration. -Penelope</I> Self-management is really about control and perspective. The GTD methodology provides both, but both needs to be executed.

The context lists (not A, B, C lists) need to have some thought around them for what the actual next thing is to be done. This is not easy when starting out, but this is the control part.

The perspective part is doing a Weekly Review — a weekly reflection time where you analyze what you are doing with your process and your lists. Without the reflection time, there is no perspective.

When I first implemented GTD, I significantly overcomplicated the entire process (and this one, Penelope, sounds like you really overcomplicated it!) and didn't really spend enough time reflecting on how I was doing things.

While I didn't have a GTD bankruptcy, I've redone my system three times over 2.5 years — each more simplified and closer to the book implementation than the one before. I've done this because I tried to over-engineer the discipline and didn't take the time to consistently reflect on how I was doing stuff.

I have not seen a more flexible system. It works for organization nuts by having a place for everything as well as for people who hate regimentation by getting things out of your head and into a trusted system so that you can be free to do whatever spontaneous thing you want to do…

Keep working it. With all the things happening right now for you, a trusted system to park stuff is going to be very important to maintain balance. Perhaps sanity…

* * * * * *

Thanks for the comment, Scott. You have good perspective. You actually make me want to give the whole thing another try. Thanks for the inpsiration.

-Penelope

]]> By: Kate http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/10/29/forget-email-bankruptcy-try-getting-things-done-bankruptcy/comment-page-1/#comment-110231 Kate Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:26:29 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/10/29/forget-email-bankruptcy-try-getting-things-done-bankruptcy/#comment-110231 Penelope, I guess you are taking this a little bit too hard. GTD can be just a book of tips, how to organize your life. I think that everyone needs to establish his own GTD system. I use Wrike.com for mine. They tool creators support the GTD idea http://www.wrike.com/blog/9/4/2007/Getting_things_done_with_Wrike_saves_us_hours, but offer a somewhat different approach to it. I like it first of all because it’s so easy to follow. And BTW Wrike is web-based, you don't have to back-up your data, they will back it up for you. I've asked them, they do it every hour. :) Penelope, I guess you are taking this a little bit too hard. GTD can be just a book of tips, how to organize your life. I think that everyone needs to establish his own GTD system. I use Wrike.com for mine. They tool creators support the GTD idea http://www.wrike.com/blog/9/4/2007/Getting_things_done_with_Wrike_saves_us_hours, but offer a somewhat different approach to it. I like it first of all because it’s so easy to follow. And BTW Wrike is web-based, you don't have to back-up your data, they will back it up for you. I've asked them, they do it every hour. :)

]]> By: Tiffany http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/10/29/forget-email-bankruptcy-try-getting-things-done-bankruptcy/comment-page-1/#comment-110211 Tiffany Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:27:42 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/10/29/forget-email-bankruptcy-try-getting-things-done-bankruptcy/#comment-110211 Thank you! I'm so glad you posted this, because smug people reminding you to backup stuff after the crash - NOT HELPFUL. Also, I've found a tough time writing more than a regular to do list with GTD. Do I really need to remind myself to take lunch to work? I mean, yes, I still forget it sometimes, but what's the likeliness I'm going to look at my list before 8:30 a.m.? Thanks for the reminder that it's OK to let some things go! Thank you! I'm so glad you posted this, because smug people reminding you to backup stuff after the crash – NOT HELPFUL. Also, I've found a tough time writing more than a regular to do list with GTD. Do I really need to remind myself to take lunch to work? I mean, yes, I still forget it sometimes, but what's the likeliness I'm going to look at my list before 8:30 a.m.? Thanks for the reminder that it's OK to let some things go!

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