Comments on: Business schools shift to accommodate the biological clock http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/26/business-schools-shift-to-accommodate-the-biological-clock/ Advice at the intersection of work and life Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:36:18 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: sts http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/26/business-schools-shift-to-accommodate-the-biological-clock/comment-page-1/#comment-216639 sts Sat, 19 Dec 2009 21:49:38 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/26/business-schools-shift-to-accommodate-the-biological-clock/#comment-216639 Harvard is the best high school you can choose Harvard is the best high school you can choose

]]> By: Business Planning by Gender http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/26/business-schools-shift-to-accommodate-the-biological-clock/comment-page-1/#comment-188686 Business Planning by Gender Thu, 09 Jul 2009 00:01:22 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/26/business-schools-shift-to-accommodate-the-biological-clock/#comment-188686 [...] in Aug of 2006 stating that women are starting businesses at twice the rate of men (thanks to Penelope Trunk for finding this information). So why is our survey data so skewed towards [...] [...] in Aug of 2006 stating that women are starting businesses at twice the rate of men (thanks to Penelope Trunk for finding this information). So why is our survey data so skewed towards [...]

]]> By: Gen Y women – out of the workplace woods? | Bizzy Women http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/26/business-schools-shift-to-accommodate-the-biological-clock/comment-page-1/#comment-185405 Gen Y women – out of the workplace woods? | Bizzy Women Mon, 11 May 2009 07:45:51 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/26/business-schools-shift-to-accommodate-the-biological-clock/#comment-185405 [...] when I read advice that tells me I have to get married and have babies before I’m thirty. I guess it’s smart [...] [...] when I read advice that tells me I have to get married and have babies before I’m thirty. I guess it’s smart [...]

]]> By: Margo http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/26/business-schools-shift-to-accommodate-the-biological-clock/comment-page-1/#comment-181484 Margo Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:06:56 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/26/business-schools-shift-to-accommodate-the-biological-clock/#comment-181484 I am 26 and recently in the thick of MBA applications and interview trips. I almost applied last year, but I stopped myself, realizing I was doing it more for this mistaken view that I must obtain the degree early enough to be under 30 when I went looking for someone to marry. What a ridiculous reason that was! Waiting ONE more year has made all the difference - I know what my unique value proposition is, I know exactly how I will finance my education, and I am doing it for myself...not for some imagined view of how potential mates would perceive it. Harvard, as I understand it, vacillates every few years between targeting 24/25's and 28/29 age cohorts. They'll decide they want the 24/25's because they're easier to mold earlier in their careers...then realize they have no experience and recruit the 28/29's...then realize they are harder to mold in the HBS model, and the cycle starts over. I visited 6 of the top 20 schools, and met other applicants that rounded out most of the rest. At the schools on the lower end of the age/experience curve, I felt the maturity was relatively lacking. At 24/25, you haven't seen your friends choose kids over work, or the other way around. The 30 year old applicants I talked to said they felt really old and out of place at HBS. I actually find the 24/25 age target makes me respect the HBS program less. Harvard can do it because, well, it's Harvard, but nobody else can really gamble like that. The employers would stop showing up. I wonder how the very young MBA's are really perceived in the job market. Particularly in this economy, employers want to see a couple grey hairs and some experience. I am 26 and recently in the thick of MBA applications and interview trips. I almost applied last year, but I stopped myself, realizing I was doing it more for this mistaken view that I must obtain the degree early enough to be under 30 when I went looking for someone to marry. What a ridiculous reason that was! Waiting ONE more year has made all the difference – I know what my unique value proposition is, I know exactly how I will finance my education, and I am doing it for myself…not for some imagined view of how potential mates would perceive it.

Harvard, as I understand it, vacillates every few years between targeting 24/25's and 28/29 age cohorts. They'll decide they want the 24/25's because they're easier to mold earlier in their careers…then realize they have no experience and recruit the 28/29's…then realize they are harder to mold in the HBS model, and the cycle starts over.

I visited 6 of the top 20 schools, and met other applicants that rounded out most of the rest. At the schools on the lower end of the age/experience curve, I felt the maturity was relatively lacking. At 24/25, you haven't seen your friends choose kids over work, or the other way around. The 30 year old applicants I talked to said they felt really old and out of place at HBS.

I actually find the 24/25 age target makes me respect the HBS program less. Harvard can do it because, well, it's Harvard, but nobody else can really gamble like that. The employers would stop showing up. I wonder how the very young MBA's are really perceived in the job market. Particularly in this economy, employers want to see a couple grey hairs and some experience.

]]> By: How Attract Women http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/26/business-schools-shift-to-accommodate-the-biological-clock/comment-page-1/#comment-180123 How Attract Women Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:38:51 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/26/business-schools-shift-to-accommodate-the-biological-clock/#comment-180123 Thanks. Nice information. Your post on attracting women has been somehow accurate with what I am researching on. I also believe that in order to attract women, one needs to overcome shyness. Some guys find that this is what that hold them back. Hey, I like your content, can we exchange blogroll? I am going to make a new blog soon. Do let me know by email. =) Thanks. Nice information. Your post on attracting women has been somehow accurate with what I am researching on. I also believe that in order to attract women, one needs to overcome shyness. Some guys find that this is what that hold them back. Hey, I like your content, can we exchange blogroll? I am going to make a new blog soon. Do let me know by email. =)

]]> By: Modite - Gen Y women – out of the workplace woods? http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/26/business-schools-shift-to-accommodate-the-biological-clock/comment-page-1/#comment-139010 Modite - Gen Y women – out of the workplace woods? Tue, 25 Mar 2008 03:06:47 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/26/business-schools-shift-to-accommodate-the-biological-clock/#comment-139010 [...] when I read advice that tells me I have to get married and have babies before I’m thirty. I guess it’s smart [...] [...] when I read advice that tells me I have to get married and have babies before I’m thirty. I guess it’s smart [...]

]]> By: Winning The Battle of Work vs. Life at Personal PR http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/26/business-schools-shift-to-accommodate-the-biological-clock/comment-page-1/#comment-115719 Winning The Battle of Work vs. Life at Personal PR Sun, 02 Dec 2007 05:58:54 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/26/business-schools-shift-to-accommodate-the-biological-clock/#comment-115719 [...] for the way the rest of our lives and opportunities play out. For example, as Penelope Trunk recently wrote, young women who want to have a family and career face the serious dilemma of timing and [...] [...] for the way the rest of our lives and opportunities play out. For example, as Penelope Trunk recently wrote, young women who want to have a family and career face the serious dilemma of timing and [...]

]]> By: Winning The Battle of Work vs. Life « Little Red Suit http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/26/business-schools-shift-to-accommodate-the-biological-clock/comment-page-1/#comment-110324 Winning The Battle of Work vs. Life « Little Red Suit Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:26:30 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/26/business-schools-shift-to-accommodate-the-biological-clock/#comment-110324 [...] for the way the rest of our lives and opportunities play out. For example, as Penelope Trunk recently wrote, young women who want to have a family and career face the serious dilemma of timing and [...] [...] for the way the rest of our lives and opportunities play out. For example, as Penelope Trunk recently wrote, young women who want to have a family and career face the serious dilemma of timing and [...]

]]> By: Modite - Engagement for the next generation http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/26/business-schools-shift-to-accommodate-the-biological-clock/comment-page-1/#comment-109905 Modite - Engagement for the next generation Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:22:47 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/26/business-schools-shift-to-accommodate-the-biological-clock/#comment-109905 [...] career guru Penelope Trunk insists that we will find deeper fulfillment from relationships over work, others like Hannah [...] [...] career guru Penelope Trunk insists that we will find deeper fulfillment from relationships over work, others like Hannah [...]

]]> By: Scott Sanders http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/26/business-schools-shift-to-accommodate-the-biological-clock/comment-page-1/#comment-109579 Scott Sanders Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:43:24 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/26/business-schools-shift-to-accommodate-the-biological-clock/#comment-109579 Penelope - Harvard Business School has never had a work experience requirement! ... at least not in my recent memory. Take a look at this page: http://www.hbs.edu/mba/admissions/admissioncriteria.html "Please note that there is no minimum work experience requirement for the MBA Program. Successful candidates are able to demonstrate strength in the criteria outlined above, regardless of their number of years of work experience. They include college seniors with significant leadership experience, as well as individuals with as little as one to two years of full-time work experience." Penelope – Harvard Business School has never had a work experience requirement! … at least not in my recent memory.

Take a look at this page:
http://www.hbs.edu/mba/admissions/admissioncriteria.html

"Please note that there is no minimum work experience requirement for the MBA Program. Successful candidates are able to demonstrate strength in the criteria outlined above, regardless of their number of years of work experience. They include college seniors with significant leadership experience, as well as individuals with as little as one to two years of full-time work experience."

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