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	<title>Comments on: Five ways the job hunt is about to change</title>
	<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/16/five-ways-the-job-hunt-is-about-to-change/</link>
	<description>Advice at the intersection of work and life</description>
	<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 5 Ways to get a job way above your experience &#187; Brazen Careerist by Penelope Trunk</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/16/five-ways-the-job-hunt-is-about-to-change/#comment-144520</link>
		<dc:creator>5 Ways to get a job way above your experience &#187; Brazen Careerist by Penelope Trunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/16/five-ways-the-job-hunt-is-about-to-change/#comment-144520</guid>
		<description>[...] of all, realize that the people who write job descriptions actually have little clue about what they really want in a candidate. That means they are easily influenced if they see a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] of all, realize that the people who write job descriptions actually have little clue about what they really want in a candidate. That means they are easily influenced if they see a [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Forester</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/16/five-ways-the-job-hunt-is-about-to-change/#comment-138697</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Forester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/16/five-ways-the-job-hunt-is-about-to-change/#comment-138697</guid>
		<description>I agree with Dan above that "external forces" impact job markets than 'employer' or other dynamics. These external forces are none other than 'economy'. Economy creates jobs or poor economy warrants that companies cut jobs. Look what economy did to the auto industry jobs and construction industry! Your best option is to keep track of your Job Security Score, a tool from Scorelogix, and if you are planning changing jobs, then compare jobs by their Job Security Scores (www.jobsecurityscore.com) and find the one that offers most job security. I check my score at least a month and I would recommend it to everyone.

While on their site (www.scorelogix.com) check out the national Job Security Index to see how your region may be doing in terms of job security (its free and doesn't require signup). 

There is a lot of useful information about jobs on bls.gov site.

--Ken--</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Dan above that &#8220;external forces&#8221; impact job markets than &#8216;employer&#8217; or other dynamics. These external forces are none other than &#8216;economy&#8217;. Economy creates jobs or poor economy warrants that companies cut jobs. Look what economy did to the auto industry jobs and construction industry! Your best option is to keep track of your Job Security Score, a tool from Scorelogix, and if you are planning changing jobs, then compare jobs by their Job Security Scores (www.jobsecurityscore.com) and find the one that offers most job security. I check my score at least a month and I would recommend it to everyone.</p>
<p>While on their site (www.scorelogix.com) check out the national Job Security Index to see how your region may be doing in terms of job security (its free and doesn&#8217;t require signup). </p>
<p>There is a lot of useful information about jobs on bls.gov site.</p>
<p>&#8211;Ken&#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: Нова работа &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Малко футуризъм</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/16/five-ways-the-job-hunt-is-about-to-change/#comment-109733</link>
		<dc:creator>Нова работа &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Малко футуризъм</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/16/five-ways-the-job-hunt-is-about-to-change/#comment-109733</guid>
		<description>[...] тя публикува една статия, озаглавена 5 начина, по които търсенето на работа ще се промени, в която ни предлага своето виждане за близкото [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] тя публикува една статия, озаглавена 5 начина, по които търсенето на работа ще се промени, в която ни предлага своето виждане за близкото [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: FRACAT - Free Resume And Career Toolbox Blog &#187; Job-Seeking / Career-Improvement Quicklinks for September 28, 2007</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/16/five-ways-the-job-hunt-is-about-to-change/#comment-108918</link>
		<dc:creator>FRACAT - Free Resume And Career Toolbox Blog &#187; Job-Seeking / Career-Improvement Quicklinks for September 28, 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/16/five-ways-the-job-hunt-is-about-to-change/#comment-108918</guid>
		<description>[...] that I can&#8217;t stop writing about Penelope Trunk. And how she&#8217;s on drugs. Here are her 5 Ways The Job Hunt Is About To Change. I guess she still hasn&#8217;t gotten over her youthful idealism because three of the five are [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] that I can&#8217;t stop writing about Penelope Trunk. And how she&#8217;s on drugs. Here are her 5 Ways The Job Hunt Is About To Change. I guess she still hasn&#8217;t gotten over her youthful idealism because three of the five are [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: El blog de Carme Pla &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Selección de personal 2.0</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/16/five-ways-the-job-hunt-is-about-to-change/#comment-108874</link>
		<dc:creator>El blog de Carme Pla &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Selección de personal 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/16/five-ways-the-job-hunt-is-about-to-change/#comment-108874</guid>
		<description>[...] se me ocurre recurrir a los consejos de Penélope Trunk, que hace unos días apuntaba 5 líneas de cambio en la futura contratación de personal (traducción completamente [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] se me ocurre recurrir a los consejos de Penélope Trunk, que hace unos días apuntaba 5 líneas de cambio en la futura contratación de personal (traducción completamente [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/16/five-ways-the-job-hunt-is-about-to-change/#comment-108650</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/16/five-ways-the-job-hunt-is-about-to-change/#comment-108650</guid>
		<description>Interestingly, external forces will likely drive the employment and hiring processes more than applicant - employer "dynamics".

Real work to manufacture and sell real products that provide customers with what they need and want  still needs to get done.  There is a lot of uncritical forecasting and wishful trending kind of statements.  Readers need to filter out quite a bit.

What are the hiring practices of Google, HP, GE,
Microsoft, P&#38;G?  This is where people might get a reliable bit of information.  They are aware of the external forces that are influencing and appropriately responding.  Think-- inflationary spiral, think higher taxes and more controls, think bigger industry trends...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly, external forces will likely drive the employment and hiring processes more than applicant - employer &#8220;dynamics&#8221;.</p>
<p>Real work to manufacture and sell real products that provide customers with what they need and want  still needs to get done.  There is a lot of uncritical forecasting and wishful trending kind of statements.  Readers need to filter out quite a bit.</p>
<p>What are the hiring practices of Google, HP, GE,<br />
Microsoft, P&amp;G?  This is where people might get a reliable bit of information.  They are aware of the external forces that are influencing and appropriately responding.  Think&#8211; inflationary spiral, think higher taxes and more controls, think bigger industry trends&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Next Step in job Hunting : Irish Jobs in Ireland</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/16/five-ways-the-job-hunt-is-about-to-change/#comment-108557</link>
		<dc:creator>Next Step in job Hunting : Irish Jobs in Ireland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 09:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/16/five-ways-the-job-hunt-is-about-to-change/#comment-108557</guid>
		<description>[...] Penelope Trunk has posted 5 way that the job hunt will change, some of her point really struck me as been spot on not just for the American market but really for the Irish market as the economy has changed over the past few years and will change again over the next few years. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Penelope Trunk has posted 5 way that the job hunt will change, some of her point really struck me as been spot on not just for the American market but really for the Irish market as the economy has changed over the past few years and will change again over the next few years. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: How Will the Job Hunt Change in the Near Future? &#187; StandoutJobs.com</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/16/five-ways-the-job-hunt-is-about-to-change/#comment-108342</link>
		<dc:creator>How Will the Job Hunt Change in the Near Future? &#187; StandoutJobs.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/16/five-ways-the-job-hunt-is-about-to-change/#comment-108342</guid>
		<description>[...] Penelope Trunk suggests five ways the job hunt is about to change. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Penelope Trunk suggests five ways the job hunt is about to change. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Scot Herrick</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/16/five-ways-the-job-hunt-is-about-to-change/#comment-108106</link>
		<dc:creator>Scot Herrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 05:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/16/five-ways-the-job-hunt-is-about-to-change/#comment-108106</guid>
		<description>I would offer some alternative views.

1. Hiring younger workers. As an aside, I think that is more about not having to pay the dollars associated with someone with more experience, not necessarily because of the “shortage” of workers. 

If there really was a shortage of workers, pay would be going up a lot faster than it has been. Instead of a shortage of workers, outsourcing provides a large pool of workers paid for at the lowest bid amount for the contract.

In addition, there is a large assumption that baby boomers will, in fact, retire. Given the amount of money needed for retirement now and pensions blowing up all over the place, that is a big assumption. I hope the “new 65 is 59″ is wrong (average retirement age today is 59 because of layoffs and health reasons) because there are a ton of baby boomers who cannot afford to retire.

2. Candidates driving the hiring process. Perhaps. But, at the end of the day, the hiring manager is the one that says yes or no. There is no control for the candidate, merely influence.

3. Stupid ads: praise the Lord and pass the resume.

4. Quality match: I certainly hope so. Most HR systems suck in terms of providing good matches. I’ve never been an accountant in my entire life, but I get accounting job requisitions all the time because once in my career I said “process up to financial interfaces” and that’s what triggered the financial positions. It’s bad.

5. The workplace being great: it all depends upon the culture. Given the outsourcing, corporate reorganizations, and focus on cost savings, this will be a tough one. 

A good article. Thanks for writing it and your continued thought leadership on this whole topic, whether I agree with everything or not!

* * * * * * 
&lt;I&gt;Scott, thanks for the comment. To your first point - here is the article, from today's Wall St Journal, that says starting salaries are going up fast because there's such a high demand for young workers:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118960965927825185.html?mod=rss_Today's_Most_Popular

-Penelope&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would offer some alternative views.</p>
<p>1. Hiring younger workers. As an aside, I think that is more about not having to pay the dollars associated with someone with more experience, not necessarily because of the “shortage” of workers. </p>
<p>If there really was a shortage of workers, pay would be going up a lot faster than it has been. Instead of a shortage of workers, outsourcing provides a large pool of workers paid for at the lowest bid amount for the contract.</p>
<p>In addition, there is a large assumption that baby boomers will, in fact, retire. Given the amount of money needed for retirement now and pensions blowing up all over the place, that is a big assumption. I hope the “new 65 is 59″ is wrong (average retirement age today is 59 because of layoffs and health reasons) because there are a ton of baby boomers who cannot afford to retire.</p>
<p>2. Candidates driving the hiring process. Perhaps. But, at the end of the day, the hiring manager is the one that says yes or no. There is no control for the candidate, merely influence.</p>
<p>3. Stupid ads: praise the Lord and pass the resume.</p>
<p>4. Quality match: I certainly hope so. Most HR systems suck in terms of providing good matches. I’ve never been an accountant in my entire life, but I get accounting job requisitions all the time because once in my career I said “process up to financial interfaces” and that’s what triggered the financial positions. It’s bad.</p>
<p>5. The workplace being great: it all depends upon the culture. Given the outsourcing, corporate reorganizations, and focus on cost savings, this will be a tough one. </p>
<p>A good article. Thanks for writing it and your continued thought leadership on this whole topic, whether I agree with everything or not!</p>
<p>* * * * * *<br />
<i>Scott, thanks for the comment. To your first point - here is the article, from today&#8217;s Wall St Journal, that says starting salaries are going up fast because there&#8217;s such a high demand for young workers:</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118960965927825185.html?mod=rss_Today" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118960965927825185.html?mod=rss_Today</a>&#8217;s_Most_Popular</p>
<p>-Penelope</i></p>
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		<title>By: finance girl</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/16/five-ways-the-job-hunt-is-about-to-change/#comment-108084</link>
		<dc:creator>finance girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/09/16/five-ways-the-job-hunt-is-about-to-change/#comment-108084</guid>
		<description>I suspect that things won't change all that much, although for very qualified, in demand workers they will.

For the vast majority of folks, though, working at the vast majority of companies, the work environment likely will not change so much.

Companies likely will continue to value high performance from people who place their job as their #1 priority.

Sure hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see changes at the macro level for the company or the employee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that things won&#8217;t change all that much, although for very qualified, in demand workers they will.</p>
<p>For the vast majority of folks, though, working at the vast majority of companies, the work environment likely will not change so much.</p>
<p>Companies likely will continue to value high performance from people who place their job as their #1 priority.</p>
<p>Sure hope I&#8217;m wrong, but I just don&#8217;t see changes at the macro level for the company or the employee.</p>
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