Comments on: Yahoo column: 10 Tips for the new workplace etiquette http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/07/26/10-tips-for-the-new-workplace-etiquette/ Advice at the intersection of work and life Sun, 21 Mar 2010 06:44:20 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Anna http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/07/26/10-tips-for-the-new-workplace-etiquette/comment-page-2/#comment-185456 Anna Tue, 12 May 2009 04:45:21 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/07/26/10-tips-for-the-new-workplace-etiquette/#comment-185456 I wholeheartedly disagree with not asking for time off. Especially for a few days! If you are the CEO, maybe, but even then informing is the polite thing to do! In this economic climate are you crazy??? I wholeheartedly disagree with not asking for time off. Especially for a few days! If you are the CEO, maybe, but even then informing is the polite thing to do! In this economic climate are you crazy???

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]]> By: Loopy http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/07/26/10-tips-for-the-new-workplace-etiquette/comment-page-2/#comment-171715 Loopy Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:58:40 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/07/26/10-tips-for-the-new-workplace-etiquette/#comment-171715 Responsibility has no relationship to generational level. Responsibility has no relationship to generational level.

]]> By: Jenna http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/07/26/10-tips-for-the-new-workplace-etiquette/comment-page-2/#comment-160524 Jenna Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:42:39 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/07/26/10-tips-for-the-new-workplace-etiquette/#comment-160524 Your kidding, right? You should change the name of this article to "10 Things That Will Get You Fired." Your kidding, right? You should change the name of this article to "10 Things That Will Get You Fired."

]]> By: Mary http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/07/26/10-tips-for-the-new-workplace-etiquette/comment-page-2/#comment-106694 Mary Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:41:12 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/07/26/10-tips-for-the-new-workplace-etiquette/#comment-106694 I saw you on I believe it was CNN. I totally don't understand the point of your article. Sure in a perfect world one would be able to say "I need a few days off" and get them. I had one boss propose that I use my vacation a few days at a time. How on Earth can I tour the south of France one day at a time? I'm fortunate I can listen to internet radio at work. I do have sick time so I can in fact call in if I need a day here or there. #8 is sheer lunacy!!! If one is working in a field where one is trying to drum up sales or get more clients then perhaps it would be beneficial to blog under your real name. If one has a personal blog about everyday occurances there's no way in heck it would be acceptable to have your boss reading that! Reference duced!! #9 is insane! I won't be doing that anytime soon. I'm offended at the people who defend you. Most of the people in the world do NOT work for Yahoo or Google! Most people can't take their dog to work or walk around barefoot or take a nap on company time. The world doesn't work like that for most of us. Oh yeah and where I am if you don't complete your exit interview you don't get your last pay check. I saw you on I believe it was CNN. I totally don't understand the point of your article. Sure in a perfect world one would be able to say "I need a few days off" and get them. I had one boss propose that I use my vacation a few days at a time. How on Earth can I tour the south of France one day at a time?

I'm fortunate I can listen to internet radio at work. I do have sick time so I can in fact call in if I need a day here or there.

#8 is sheer lunacy!!! If one is working in a field where one is trying to drum up sales or get more clients then perhaps it would be beneficial to blog under your real name. If one has a personal blog about everyday occurances there's no way in heck it would be acceptable to have your boss reading that! Reference duced!!

#9 is insane! I won't be doing that anytime soon.

I'm offended at the people who defend you. Most of the people in the world do NOT work for Yahoo or Google! Most people can't take their dog to work or walk around barefoot or take a nap on company time. The world doesn't work like that for most of us.

Oh yeah and where I am if you don't complete your exit interview you don't get your last pay check.

]]> By: Watercooler Confidential http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/07/26/10-tips-for-the-new-workplace-etiquette/comment-page-2/#comment-105884 Watercooler Confidential Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:03:21 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/07/26/10-tips-for-the-new-workplace-etiquette/#comment-105884 <strong>New office etiquette: rational or radical?...</strong> Author-blogger Penelope Trunk received a slew of harsh comments when posting her "10 New Etiquette Tips for the Workplace." For example, a large percentage of readers were certain they'd be fired if they followed her advice of: "Don't ask for...... New office etiquette: rational or radical?…

Author-blogger Penelope Trunk received a slew of harsh comments when posting her "10 New Etiquette Tips for the Workplace." For example, a large percentage of readers were certain they'd be fired if they followed her advice of: "Don't ask for……

]]> By: Maurice Walshe http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/07/26/10-tips-for-the-new-workplace-etiquette/comment-page-2/#comment-105509 Maurice Walshe Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:38:52 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/07/26/10-tips-for-the-new-workplace-etiquette/#comment-105509 number 2. Don’t ask for time off, just take it. errr are your realy sure that such good advice ok if you have a self directed hours job ( as i used to at BT I more of less decided what hours I worked. But just taking time off mm could be risky even more so in the USA number 2. Don’t ask for time off, just take it.

errr are your realy sure that such good advice ok if you have a self directed hours job ( as i used to at BT I more of less decided what hours I worked.

But just taking time off mm could be risky even more so in the USA

]]> By: Michael Hanson http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/07/26/10-tips-for-the-new-workplace-etiquette/comment-page-2/#comment-105345 Michael Hanson Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:38:30 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/07/26/10-tips-for-the-new-workplace-etiquette/#comment-105345 Oh, and if your trying to reach the young crowd, you're not. Notice how every person with a positive comment is not from a person looking for a job nor a CEO, yet it is mainly composed mainly of the middle wage worker who has no aspirations of achieving anything except a stable job. Oh, and if your trying to reach the young crowd, you're not. Notice how every person with a positive comment is not from a person looking for a job nor a CEO, yet it is mainly composed mainly of the middle wage worker who has no aspirations of achieving anything except a stable job.

]]> By: Michael Hanson http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/07/26/10-tips-for-the-new-workplace-etiquette/comment-page-2/#comment-105344 Michael Hanson Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:32:47 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/07/26/10-tips-for-the-new-workplace-etiquette/#comment-105344 <p>Penelope, I will admit I left a harsh remark on the Yahoo comments page, but after reading it over and over...I still feel the same way. Whether or not it makes you "happy" at work to try the 10 tips above is irrelevant. If everyone did what made them "happy", the world would be a terrible place to live in. I am a student in college and all I see left and right is this trend to "rebel" against conformity. Screw your boss, yeah! Suck up to him and when he hires you, ditch the exit interview because he realizes you are a terrible employee. It's not what you are writing that's wrong, it's your intentions. Plus you completely contradict your own tips...Don't try to improve your co-workers... so you wouldn't give them this column to read? Everyone should try to improve their fellow peers. That doesn't mean you will have an effect on them, but you should as least try. As for the unemployed/don't-work-for-a-real-company/nerds with no social skills except on a computer people that have positive comments to say, I say this, please continue to give good comments so there will be plenty of employment for everyone and it will make your unprofessional job seem hip and up to date. I don't think you are a bad writer Trunkie, but this article is not your best.</p> * * * * * * <I>Hi, Michael. I totally agree with you that we should all try to help each other improve. I think these tips are consistent with that. To let people be their best selves we need to take away workplace constraints that do not focus on results. We each work best in different ways. We need a workplace that acknowleges that a wide range of workstyles can succeed and we don't need paternalistic rules to force everyone to do things "the boss's way". On the flip side, i think that helping one's boss to succeed is so important that there is a cateogory on the blog for it: "managing up". Check that out. When I write posts in that category I get the exact opposite comments from yours -- that I am an idealist if I think we should all help each other at work. -Penelope Penelope, I will admit I left a harsh remark on the Yahoo comments page, but after reading it over and over…I still feel the same way. Whether or not it makes you "happy" at work to try the 10 tips above is irrelevant. If everyone did what made them "happy", the world would be a terrible place to live in. I am a student in college and all I see left and right is this trend to "rebel" against conformity. Screw your boss, yeah! Suck up to him and when he hires you, ditch the exit interview because he realizes you are a terrible employee. It's not what you are writing that's wrong, it's your intentions. Plus you completely contradict your own tips…Don't try to improve your co-workers… so you wouldn't give them this column to read? Everyone should try to improve their fellow peers. That doesn't mean you will have an effect on them, but you should as least try. As for the unemployed/don't-work-for-a-real-company/nerds with no social skills except on a computer people that have positive comments to say, I say this, please continue to give good comments so there will be plenty of employment for everyone and it will make your unprofessional job seem hip and up to date. I don't think you are a bad writer Trunkie, but this article is not your best.

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Hi, Michael. I totally agree with you that we should all try to help each other improve. I think these tips are consistent with that. To let people be their best selves we need to take away workplace constraints that do not focus on results. We each work best in different ways. We need a workplace that acknowleges that a wide range of workstyles can succeed and we don't need paternalistic rules to force everyone to do things "the boss's way".

On the flip side, i think that helping one's boss to succeed is so important that there is a cateogory on the blog for it: "managing up". Check that out. When I write posts in that category I get the exact opposite comments from yours — that I am an idealist if I think we should all help each other at work.

-Penelope

]]> By: L. Bates http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/07/26/10-tips-for-the-new-workplace-etiquette/comment-page-2/#comment-105320 L. Bates Wed, 01 Aug 2007 13:34:23 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/07/26/10-tips-for-the-new-workplace-etiquette/#comment-105320 Hey, Penelope - do me a favor. If you're going to delete my comment on why just taking time without asking for it is bad, at least have the decency to remove my follow-up clarifying comment. I'm not trying to clarify YOUR statements. Hey, Penelope – do me a favor. If you're going to delete my comment on why just taking time without asking for it is bad, at least have the decency to remove my follow-up clarifying comment. I'm not trying to clarify YOUR statements.

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