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		<title>By: Change Agency - Advocating a better education system for the 21st Century. &#187; The Next Generation of Principals</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/31/new-financial-data-highlights-generational-rifts/comment-page-2/#comment-139400</link>
		<dc:creator>Change Agency - Advocating a better education system for the 21st Century. &#187; The Next Generation of Principals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] X that I&#8217;ve read in a long time, Penelope Trunk (Brazen Careerist Blog), describes this as a change in &#8220;the American Dream&#8221;: The shift is in the definition of the American Dream. Our dream is about time, not money. No [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] X that I&#039;ve read in a long time, Penelope Trunk (Brazen Careerist Blog), describes this as a change in &#034;the American Dream&#034;: The shift is in the definition of the American Dream. Our dream is about time, not money. No [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Karla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 17:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps what people should really be searching for is &#039;balance&#039;.  I know some post WWII parents who literally worked themselves to death (i.e. heart attack).  But now I look at France and see that they must import workers to support an upper class of &#039;drones&#039;.  A healthy mixture of both may be best.  And one more thing... &quot;it isn&#039;t work if you like doing it&quot;... get a job you enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps what people should really be searching for is &#039;balance&#039;.  I know some post WWII parents who literally worked themselves to death (i.e. heart attack).  But now I look at France and see that they must import workers to support an upper class of &#039;drones&#039;.  A healthy mixture of both may be best.  And one more thing&#8230; &#034;it isn&#039;t work if you like doing it&#034;&#8230; get a job you enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: Modite - Engagement for the next generation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Modite - Engagement for the next generation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Generation Y is skeptical of marriage. Our parents had the highest divorce rate out of any other generation. After observing such rifts we want to get it right to avoid the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Taylor Sikora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taylor Sikora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 23:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Riley Issacson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riley Issacson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very useful information was found here, thank you for your work.</description>
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		<title>By: Baby Boomer versus Gen X: Which Would You Rather Be? &#187; B2B MarCom Writer Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/31/new-financial-data-highlights-generational-rifts/comment-page-1/#comment-104120</link>
		<dc:creator>Baby Boomer versus Gen X: Which Would You Rather Be? &#187; B2B MarCom Writer Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I identify with Gen X &#8211; especially the part about working fewer hours and living the life I want now, versus waiting until [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 09:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Penelope,

I&#039;m not a specialist in statistics and happiness, but let me put my two cents about it.

The statistics of the X and Y generations doing better in &#039;keeping families together more than twice effectively as our parents did&#039; cannot be applied properly right now. Let&#039;s wait for a couple of tens of years to let the statistics get even, to let all the new generations live as long as &#039;our parents&#039;.

Here should also be applied another kinds of statistics: of health condition; ecology; threat of nuclear war for &#039;our parents&#039; generation or other global disasters that can impact your divorce statistics; number of born children; suicides; alcoholic and drug edicts; number of criminals, pedophiles and other culprits; and depression of representatives of different generations - to make a conclusion of happiness.

I&#039;m almost sure that the value &#039;to take time&#039; will not the help much the new generation fulfilling.

Let&#039;s for instance have a look at other nations.
Korean&#039;s: start work hard since they are 4! They are strictly taught to be disciplined since that age. But they are the one of the happiest nations in the world.
Why?

They worked so much that when they were 20-30-something, that now they sell all over the world their cars at prices equal to German!
They travel with their families all over the world and happy seeing many places!
They have got families with many happy children (not just a child as usual for X or Y)!
They know what they want, and this is not just &#039;taking time&#039;, and the world respects them!
Thus, they are happy, successful and with their large strong families!

In my opinion, what we can see proves that happiness or fulfillment is not in just taking time. It&#039;s somewhere beyond.

* * * * *

&lt;em&gt;Andrey,
The statistic about divorce rates is generation X, not generation Y. Generation X is in their 40s. We have enough data to know. Gen x divorce rates are less than half those of baby boomers.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;The research about what makes people happy -- across borders and cultures -- has to do almost 100% with personal relationships and level of optimism. I write about this research constantly on this blog. Divorce rate is integral to the personal relationships part of the equation. This is why gen X has had such a strong focus on keeping marriages together.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Penelope&lt;/em&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Penelope,</p>
<p>I&#039;m not a specialist in statistics and happiness, but let me put my two cents about it.</p>
<p>The statistics of the X and Y generations doing better in &#039;keeping families together more than twice effectively as our parents did&#039; cannot be applied properly right now. Let&#039;s wait for a couple of tens of years to let the statistics get even, to let all the new generations live as long as &#039;our parents&#039;.</p>
<p>Here should also be applied another kinds of statistics: of health condition; ecology; threat of nuclear war for &#039;our parents&#039; generation or other global disasters that can impact your divorce statistics; number of born children; suicides; alcoholic and drug edicts; number of criminals, pedophiles and other culprits; and depression of representatives of different generations &#8211; to make a conclusion of happiness.</p>
<p>I&#039;m almost sure that the value &#039;to take time&#039; will not the help much the new generation fulfilling.</p>
<p>Let&#039;s for instance have a look at other nations.<br />
Korean&#039;s: start work hard since they are 4! They are strictly taught to be disciplined since that age. But they are the one of the happiest nations in the world.<br />
Why?</p>
<p>They worked so much that when they were 20-30-something, that now they sell all over the world their cars at prices equal to German!<br />
They travel with their families all over the world and happy seeing many places!<br />
They have got families with many happy children (not just a child as usual for X or Y)!<br />
They know what they want, and this is not just &#039;taking time&#039;, and the world respects them!<br />
Thus, they are happy, successful and with their large strong families!</p>
<p>In my opinion, what we can see proves that happiness or fulfillment is not in just taking time. It&#039;s somewhere beyond.</p>
<p>* * * * *</p>
<p><em>Andrey,<br />
The statistic about divorce rates is generation X, not generation Y. Generation X is in their 40s. We have enough data to know. Gen x divorce rates are less than half those of baby boomers.</em></p>
<p><em>The research about what makes people happy &#8212; across borders and cultures &#8212; has to do almost 100% with personal relationships and level of optimism. I write about this research constantly on this blog. Divorce rate is integral to the personal relationships part of the equation. This is why gen X has had such a strong focus on keeping marriages together.</em></p>
<p><em>Penelope</em></p>
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		<title>By: Career Development for Scientists &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Generational Differences</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/31/new-financial-data-highlights-generational-rifts/comment-page-1/#comment-87854</link>
		<dc:creator>Career Development for Scientists &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Generational Differences</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As I mentioned in an earlier post, different generations have different expectations for their careers.  Penelope Trunk has a post entitled &#8220;New financial data highlights generational rifts&#8221; that adds another perspective to this discussion. Basically, she says the younger generations are more concerned with time, and balancing their personal and professional lives, than they are with money. It&#8217;s interesting to note that the further away people get from the Great Depression, the less worried they are about financial security. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As I mentioned in an earlier post, different generations have different expectations for their careers.  Penelope Trunk has a post entitled &#034;New financial data highlights generational rifts&#034; that adds another perspective to this discussion. Basically, she says the younger generations are more concerned with time, and balancing their personal and professional lives, than they are with money. It&#039;s interesting to note that the further away people get from the Great Depression, the less worried they are about financial security. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 12:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ John C: &quot;The Gray Ceiling&quot; YES. That is the perfect term. And the day is looming when the Boomers will be preparing to retire and vote enormous benefits for themselves that we have to pay for. With any luck a Gen X movement to level things out will coalesce. Otherwise Gen Z is going to get creamed. Or revolt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ John C: &#034;The Gray Ceiling&#034; YES. That is the perfect term. And the day is looming when the Boomers will be preparing to retire and vote enormous benefits for themselves that we have to pay for. With any luck a Gen X movement to level things out will coalesce. Otherwise Gen Z is going to get creamed. Or revolt.</p>
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		<title>By: G. Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>G. Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 06:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re; the &quot;gray ceiling&quot;.

The place to look for this is the good old &quot;military industrial complex&quot;, and also NASA and other companies involved in highly technical systems meant for use in outer space.

These companies have kept people around well into their seventies simply because their accumulated knowledge is considered a most critical asset. The problem is, that they have been far too tardy in working to develop new people from the &quot;ground up&quot;. 

For decades it&#039;s been recognized that these two industries have been somewhat of an &quot;old boys club&quot;; a tightly knit and mostly impenetrable &quot;closed shop&quot;. They have also known for the saem length of time what the unfortunate result would someday be of their hesitance to open up new positions for people who will need to be trained. They just preferred not to do anything about it until the lack of new blood showed a visible effect.

Well, it has been showing for the last five years at least, but their response to the sudden wave of retirements has been to throw anything and everything at the exiting employees to get them to stay, while continuing to put up barriers to the hiring of lower level younger employees. It&#039;s true that many companies have developed pretty good internship programs for engineering students, and do a goo djob of trolling the campuses when graduation time comes around.

The people they have preferred to ignore though, are the folks who do &quot;everything but&quot; rocket science and aerospace engineering. The folks who assemble what the &quot;best &amp; brightest&quot; have designed, and who do all the other technical and administrative tasks involved in the development and manufacturing of aerospace systems. 

There is considerable critical technical knowledge that these people carry as well as the engineers, and because of their own imposition of the &quot;gray ceiling&quot;, these industries are backing themselves slowly into a financial corner. As happens in other industries, we have foreign competitors who don&#039;t maintain the same belief in depending so much on mature experience over young inspiration...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re; the &#034;gray ceiling&#034;.</p>
<p>The place to look for this is the good old &#034;military industrial complex&#034;, and also NASA and other companies involved in highly technical systems meant for use in outer space.</p>
<p>These companies have kept people around well into their seventies simply because their accumulated knowledge is considered a most critical asset. The problem is, that they have been far too tardy in working to develop new people from the &#034;ground up&#034;. </p>
<p>For decades it&#039;s been recognized that these two industries have been somewhat of an &#034;old boys club&#034;; a tightly knit and mostly impenetrable &#034;closed shop&#034;. They have also known for the saem length of time what the unfortunate result would someday be of their hesitance to open up new positions for people who will need to be trained. They just preferred not to do anything about it until the lack of new blood showed a visible effect.</p>
<p>Well, it has been showing for the last five years at least, but their response to the sudden wave of retirements has been to throw anything and everything at the exiting employees to get them to stay, while continuing to put up barriers to the hiring of lower level younger employees. It&#039;s true that many companies have developed pretty good internship programs for engineering students, and do a goo djob of trolling the campuses when graduation time comes around.</p>
<p>The people they have preferred to ignore though, are the folks who do &#034;everything but&#034; rocket science and aerospace engineering. The folks who assemble what the &#034;best &amp; brightest&#034; have designed, and who do all the other technical and administrative tasks involved in the development and manufacturing of aerospace systems. </p>
<p>There is considerable critical technical knowledge that these people carry as well as the engineers, and because of their own imposition of the &#034;gray ceiling&#034;, these industries are backing themselves slowly into a financial corner. As happens in other industries, we have foreign competitors who don&#039;t maintain the same belief in depending so much on mature experience over young inspiration&#8230;</p>
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