Comments on: New financial data highlights generational rifts http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/31/new-financial-data-highlights-generational-rifts/ Advice at the intersection of work and life Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:27:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: how do i make someone dream about me http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/31/new-financial-data-highlights-generational-rifts/#comment-148169 how do i make someone dream about me Thu, 29 May 2008 12:55:07 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/31/new-financial-data-highlights-generational-rifts/#comment-148169 [...] we are no exception. But finances alone do not define someone??s American Dream. Especially when ourhttp://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/31/new-financial-data-highlights-generational-rifts/Why has a dream made me feel like I&39m in love with him? lol ...Is it natural for dreams to make [...] […] we are no exception. But finances alone do not define someone??s American Dream. Especially when ourhttp://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/31/new-financial-data-highlights-generational-rifts/Why has a dream made me feel like I&39m in love with him? lol …Is it natural for dreams to make […]

]]> By: Change Agency - Advocating a better education system for the 21st Century. » The Next Generation of Principals http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/31/new-financial-data-highlights-generational-rifts/#comment-139400 Change Agency - Advocating a better education system for the 21st Century. » The Next Generation of Principals Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:04:58 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/31/new-financial-data-highlights-generational-rifts/#comment-139400 [...] X that I’ve read in a long time, Penelope Trunk (Brazen Careerist Blog), describes this as a change in “the American Dream”: The shift is in the definition of the American Dream. Our dream is about time, not money. No [...] […] X that I’ve read in a long time, Penelope Trunk (Brazen Careerist Blog), describes this as a change in “the American Dream”: The shift is in the definition of the American Dream. Our dream is about time, not money. No […]

]]> By: Karla http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/31/new-financial-data-highlights-generational-rifts/#comment-106508 Karla Sun, 19 Aug 2007 17:44:38 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/31/new-financial-data-highlights-generational-rifts/#comment-106508 Perhaps what people should really be searching for is 'balance'. I know some post WWII parents who literally worked themselves to death (i.e. heart attack). But now I look at France and see that they must import workers to support an upper class of 'drones'. A healthy mixture of both may be best. And one more thing... "it isn't work if you like doing it"... get a job you enjoy. Perhaps what people should really be searching for is ‘balance’. I know some post WWII parents who literally worked themselves to death (i.e. heart attack). But now I look at France and see that they must import workers to support an upper class of ‘drones’. A healthy mixture of both may be best. And one more thing… “it isn’t work if you like doing it”… get a job you enjoy.

]]> By: Modite - Engagement for the next generation http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/31/new-financial-data-highlights-generational-rifts/#comment-105657 Modite - Engagement for the next generation Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:59:33 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/31/new-financial-data-highlights-generational-rifts/#comment-105657 [...] Generation Y is skeptical of marriage. Our parents had the highest divorce rate out of any other generation. After observing such rifts we want to get it right to avoid the [...] […] Generation Y is skeptical of marriage. Our parents had the highest divorce rate out of any other generation. After observing such rifts we want to get it right to avoid the […]

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]]> By: Baby Boomer versus Gen X: Which Would You Rather Be? » B2B MarCom Writer Blog http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/31/new-financial-data-highlights-generational-rifts/#comment-104120 Baby Boomer versus Gen X: Which Would You Rather Be? » B2B MarCom Writer Blog Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:07:36 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/31/new-financial-data-highlights-generational-rifts/#comment-104120 [...] I identify with Gen X – especially the part about working fewer hours and living the life I want now, versus waiting until [...] […] I identify with Gen X – especially the part about working fewer hours and living the life I want now, versus waiting until […]

]]> By: Andrey http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/31/new-financial-data-highlights-generational-rifts/#comment-89288 Andrey Thu, 14 Jun 2007 09:08:55 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/31/new-financial-data-highlights-generational-rifts/#comment-89288 Penelope, I'm not a specialist in statistics and happiness, but let me put my two cents about it. The statistics of the X and Y generations doing better in 'keeping families together more than twice effectively as our parents did' cannot be applied properly right now. Let's wait for a couple of tens of years to let the statistics get even, to let all the new generations live as long as 'our parents'. Here should also be applied another kinds of statistics: of health condition; ecology; threat of nuclear war for 'our parents' generation or other global disasters that can impact your divorce statistics; number of born children; suicides; alcoholic and drug edicts; number of criminals, pedophiles and other culprits; and depression of representatives of different generations - to make a conclusion of happiness. I'm almost sure that the value 'to take time' will not the help much the new generation fulfilling. Let's for instance have a look at other nations. Korean's: start work hard since they are 4! They are strictly taught to be disciplined since that age. But they are the one of the happiest nations in the world. Why? They worked so much that when they were 20-30-something, that now they sell all over the world their cars at prices equal to German! They travel with their families all over the world and happy seeing many places! They have got families with many happy children (not just a child as usual for X or Y)! They know what they want, and this is not just 'taking time', and the world respects them! Thus, they are happy, successful and with their large strong families! In my opinion, what we can see proves that happiness or fulfillment is not in just taking time. It's somewhere beyond. * * * * * <em>Andrey, The statistic about divorce rates is generation X, not generation Y. Generation X is in their 40s. We have enough data to know. Gen x divorce rates are less than half those of baby boomers.</em> <em>The research about what makes people happy -- across borders and cultures -- has to do almost 100% with personal relationships and level of optimism. I write about this research constantly on this blog. Divorce rate is integral to the personal relationships part of the equation. This is why gen X has had such a strong focus on keeping marriages together.</em> <em>Penelope</em>   Penelope,

I’m not a specialist in statistics and happiness, but let me put my two cents about it.

The statistics of the X and Y generations doing better in ‘keeping families together more than twice effectively as our parents did’ cannot be applied properly right now. Let’s wait for a couple of tens of years to let the statistics get even, to let all the new generations live as long as ‘our parents’.

Here should also be applied another kinds of statistics: of health condition; ecology; threat of nuclear war for ‘our parents’ generation or other global disasters that can impact your divorce statistics; number of born children; suicides; alcoholic and drug edicts; number of criminals, pedophiles and other culprits; and depression of representatives of different generations - to make a conclusion of happiness.

I’m almost sure that the value ‘to take time’ will not the help much the new generation fulfilling.

Let’s for instance have a look at other nations.
Korean’s: start work hard since they are 4! They are strictly taught to be disciplined since that age. But they are the one of the happiest nations in the world.
Why?

They worked so much that when they were 20-30-something, that now they sell all over the world their cars at prices equal to German!
They travel with their families all over the world and happy seeing many places!
They have got families with many happy children (not just a child as usual for X or Y)!
They know what they want, and this is not just ‘taking time’, and the world respects them!
Thus, they are happy, successful and with their large strong families!

In my opinion, what we can see proves that happiness or fulfillment is not in just taking time. It’s somewhere beyond.

* * * * *

Andrey,
The statistic about divorce rates is generation X, not generation Y. Generation X is in their 40s. We have enough data to know. Gen x divorce rates are less than half those of baby boomers.

The research about what makes people happy — across borders and cultures — has to do almost 100% with personal relationships and level of optimism. I write about this research constantly on this blog. Divorce rate is integral to the personal relationships part of the equation. This is why gen X has had such a strong focus on keeping marriages together.

Penelope

 

]]> By: Career Development for Scientists » Blog Archive » Generational Differences http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/31/new-financial-data-highlights-generational-rifts/#comment-87854 Career Development for Scientists » Blog Archive » Generational Differences Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:22:50 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/31/new-financial-data-highlights-generational-rifts/#comment-87854 [...] As I mentioned in an earlier post, different generations have different expectations for their careers. Penelope Trunk has a post entitled “New financial data highlights generational rifts” that adds another perspective to this discussion. Basically, she says the younger generations are more concerned with time, and balancing their personal and professional lives, than they are with money. It’s interesting to note that the further away people get from the Great Depression, the less worried they are about financial security. [...] […] As I mentioned in an earlier post, different generations have different expectations for their careers. Penelope Trunk has a post entitled “New financial data highlights generational rifts” that adds another perspective to this discussion. Basically, she says the younger generations are more concerned with time, and balancing their personal and professional lives, than they are with money. It’s interesting to note that the further away people get from the Great Depression, the less worried they are about financial security. […]

]]> By: Stephen http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/31/new-financial-data-highlights-generational-rifts/#comment-86803 Stephen Sat, 09 Jun 2007 12:29:44 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/31/new-financial-data-highlights-generational-rifts/#comment-86803 @ John C: "The Gray Ceiling" YES. That is the perfect term. And the day is looming when the Boomers will be preparing to retire and vote enormous benefits for themselves that we have to pay for. With any luck a Gen X movement to level things out will coalesce. Otherwise Gen Z is going to get creamed. Or revolt. @ John C: “The Gray Ceiling” YES. That is the perfect term. And the day is looming when the Boomers will be preparing to retire and vote enormous benefits for themselves that we have to pay for. With any luck a Gen X movement to level things out will coalesce. Otherwise Gen Z is going to get creamed. Or revolt.

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