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		<title>By: Accepting Our Shadow Self is Basis of Self-Acceptance</title>
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		<title>By: Purpose and Worth to Every Human Life</title>
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		<title>By: russ eckel</title>
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		<dc:creator>russ eckel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 10:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again you have come back to one of the core issues. Here&#039;s the question that comes up as I read this well argued post: Can individuals regulate time? Here&#039;s what underlies this question. Well over a century ago people around the world responded to the rise of industrial time with a demand for a forty hour work week. After a long and bitter political struggle this goal was achieved. As time went on people who&#039;s lives were heavily regulated by the relentless pace of the assembly line furhter regulated time with diemands for higher rates of pay when employers asked for or demanded more of our &quot;private&quot; time. Labor law regulates how many hours a teenager can work and what hours of the day or night they can be employed outside the home.

Now globalization and the rise of post-industrial time ( we can work anywhere at any time) is putting the question to us again. How do we want to spend our days and nights? How do we want to live? Some employers want us to work harder and longer; a &quot;natural&quot; response to the rise of global competition resulting in the need to do more with less.

The response thus far in the U.S. has largely been to find a &quot;private&quot; solution to the demands for more of our time. Taken together, millions of people, particularly younger people, are as you say, pushing back. Interestingly, the French people just elected a new President who campaigned on a platform that the French people needed to work MORE.

The tug of war over time has been with us since people put down their plows and went into the factory. But now the whole world can work &#039;twenty-four seven&#039;. Will the private solution, or even the collective will to resist &quot;global time&quot; be enough to establish a new implicit social understanding? Perhaps another way of asking the sam e question would be to ask: How much will younger people be willing to sacrifice as others around the world work more? Will time, evne more so than wages, represent a core driver when companies make investment decisions?

Let&#039;s not be naive about time. If this is the new friction point in the work place, we may not even be warm yet.

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&lt;I&gt;Russ, what an insightful comment. I think you might be right in that we are framing new issues with an old fram still. And the bleeding edge is how we think about time more than values. Maybe they are not so interwoven as we think.

Someone just left a comment on another post about the learning disability called &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyscalculia&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;discalculia&lt;/a&gt;. I can&#039;t help thinking that maybe our culture, or the first world, maybe has a problem thinking about time that we need to compensate for culturally. Very vague, I know. I just want you to know that you got me thinking. And thanks for that.

-Penelope&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again you have come back to one of the core issues. Here&#039;s the question that comes up as I read this well argued post: Can individuals regulate time? Here&#039;s what underlies this question. Well over a century ago people around the world responded to the rise of industrial time with a demand for a forty hour work week. After a long and bitter political struggle this goal was achieved. As time went on people who&#039;s lives were heavily regulated by the relentless pace of the assembly line furhter regulated time with diemands for higher rates of pay when employers asked for or demanded more of our &#034;private&#034; time. Labor law regulates how many hours a teenager can work and what hours of the day or night they can be employed outside the home.</p>
<p>Now globalization and the rise of post-industrial time ( we can work anywhere at any time) is putting the question to us again. How do we want to spend our days and nights? How do we want to live? Some employers want us to work harder and longer; a &#034;natural&#034; response to the rise of global competition resulting in the need to do more with less.</p>
<p>The response thus far in the U.S. has largely been to find a &#034;private&#034; solution to the demands for more of our time. Taken together, millions of people, particularly younger people, are as you say, pushing back. Interestingly, the French people just elected a new President who campaigned on a platform that the French people needed to work MORE.</p>
<p>The tug of war over time has been with us since people put down their plows and went into the factory. But now the whole world can work &#039;twenty-four seven&#039;. Will the private solution, or even the collective will to resist &#034;global time&#034; be enough to establish a new implicit social understanding? Perhaps another way of asking the sam e question would be to ask: How much will younger people be willing to sacrifice as others around the world work more? Will time, evne more so than wages, represent a core driver when companies make investment decisions?</p>
<p>Let&#039;s not be naive about time. If this is the new friction point in the work place, we may not even be warm yet.</p>
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<i>Russ, what an insightful comment. I think you might be right in that we are framing new issues with an old fram still. And the bleeding edge is how we think about time more than values. Maybe they are not so interwoven as we think.</p>
<p>Someone just left a comment on another post about the learning disability called <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyscalculia" rel="nofollow">discalculia</a>. I can&#039;t help thinking that maybe our culture, or the first world, maybe has a problem thinking about time that we need to compensate for culturally. Very vague, I know. I just want you to know that you got me thinking. And thanks for that.</p>
<p>-Penelope</i></p>
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		<title>By: Nataly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nataly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 18:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I didn&#039;t grow up in this country, I&#039;m not quite sure what letter is assigned to my generation (I was born in 1975 if that helps), but I really appreciate your posting this and writing on this topic. I am lucky to be married to someone who sees his home responsibilities and being a dad as important - if not more - than what he does in his career. (On our first date, he told me that he wanted to be a dad when I asked him what he wanted to do in life.) My career has always been nuts, hectic, and crazy - and while I&#039;ve tried to change it after our daughter was born, I would have been a horrible mom if it weren&#039;t for my husband and his involvement and help. He is now interviewing for different jobs, his career is really taking off, but I know he is very stressed out about having to work longer hours or travel - he wants to be here, to be a dad, a husband and have a career.

I agree with you that the issue of juggling work and family is becoming more of an issue for a greater percentage of men. (In fact, I&#039;ve thought about whether it was a mistake to focus our company on helping moms do this.) At the same time, I do think that in most cases, it is the mom having the bulk of the home responsibilities still - my husband is the only one I know who found and did the first interview with our nanny!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I didn&#039;t grow up in this country, I&#039;m not quite sure what letter is assigned to my generation (I was born in 1975 if that helps), but I really appreciate your posting this and writing on this topic. I am lucky to be married to someone who sees his home responsibilities and being a dad as important &#8211; if not more &#8211; than what he does in his career. (On our first date, he told me that he wanted to be a dad when I asked him what he wanted to do in life.) My career has always been nuts, hectic, and crazy &#8211; and while I&#039;ve tried to change it after our daughter was born, I would have been a horrible mom if it weren&#039;t for my husband and his involvement and help. He is now interviewing for different jobs, his career is really taking off, but I know he is very stressed out about having to work longer hours or travel &#8211; he wants to be here, to be a dad, a husband and have a career.</p>
<p>I agree with you that the issue of juggling work and family is becoming more of an issue for a greater percentage of men. (In fact, I&#039;ve thought about whether it was a mistake to focus our company on helping moms do this.) At the same time, I do think that in most cases, it is the mom having the bulk of the home responsibilities still &#8211; my husband is the only one I know who found and did the first interview with our nanny!</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 18:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s something I&#039;ve been feeling a lot lately. I might be wrong, but it seems that there are huge, widespread networks of support and information available to women to help them make decisions and learn how to plan - both skills that are learned, not innate.

And it seems that such networks and tools are not available to men. In fact, men seeking such things are often made to feel like losers for seeking support instead of being heroes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s something I&#039;ve been feeling a lot lately. I might be wrong, but it seems that there are huge, widespread networks of support and information available to women to help them make decisions and learn how to plan &#8211; both skills that are learned, not innate.</p>
<p>And it seems that such networks and tools are not available to men. In fact, men seeking such things are often made to feel like losers for seeking support instead of being heroes.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 17:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your blog posts are great. Great point of view and interesting topics!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your blog posts are great. Great point of view and interesting topics!</p>
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