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	<title>Comments on: 5 Myths about going to law school</title>
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		<title>By: Peter Q Wolfe</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/16/five-myths-about-going-to-law-school/comment-page-2/#comment-269175</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Q Wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 19:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been 2nd questioning myself about law school and might talk to an advior before I graduate! I just decided that I didn&#039;t know enough till I see a lawyer myself to get real advice from. I&#039;d suggest others to do the same and realize that its never too late to try! Maybe just maybe there is something to this law business worth going into.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve been 2nd questioning myself about law school and might talk to an advior before I graduate! I just decided that I didn&#039;t know enough till I see a lawyer myself to get real advice from. I&#039;d suggest others to do the same and realize that its never too late to try! Maybe just maybe there is something to this law business worth going into.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob the Builder</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/16/five-myths-about-going-to-law-school/comment-page-2/#comment-268379</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob the Builder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People that likes to pick on people&#039;s grammar and spelling are just trying to make themselves feel better. Why pick on every little detail when you don&#039;t even read about what the person is trying to say? You&#039;re just acting an elementary school kid that goes alallalalalal I can&#039;t hear you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People that likes to pick on people&#039;s grammar and spelling are just trying to make themselves feel better. Why pick on every little detail when you don&#039;t even read about what the person is trying to say? You&#039;re just acting an elementary school kid that goes alallalalalal I can&#039;t hear you!</p>
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		<title>By: Yeoman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yeoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I was a police officer before law school and I had served in the Army. The problem with law students is the most come from priveleged backgrounds and are not familiar with hard work and no getting undergraduate degree is not hard work.&quot;

I&#039;m always amazed that lawyers think law school is hard work.  It isn&#039;t.  Lots of undergraduate degrees are much harder.  Law school is actually extremely easy, and about any person of average to slightly lower than average intelligence can get through law school.  I do agree many law students do not realize that, but that&#039;s because they had extraordinarily easy undergraduate degrees.  I wish that the &quot;pre law&quot; curriculum would be done away with entirely for that reason, as its worthless.

What&#039;s hard is actually practicing law.  Law school does not tend to actually prepare anyone to practice law, and the nature of law school attracts people who often not suited to practice law (probably about 40% are unsuited for it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;I was a police officer before law school and I had served in the Army. The problem with law students is the most come from priveleged backgrounds and are not familiar with hard work and no getting undergraduate degree is not hard work.&#034;</p>
<p>I&#039;m always amazed that lawyers think law school is hard work.  It isn&#039;t.  Lots of undergraduate degrees are much harder.  Law school is actually extremely easy, and about any person of average to slightly lower than average intelligence can get through law school.  I do agree many law students do not realize that, but that&#039;s because they had extraordinarily easy undergraduate degrees.  I wish that the &#034;pre law&#034; curriculum would be done away with entirely for that reason, as its worthless.</p>
<p>What&#039;s hard is actually practicing law.  Law school does not tend to actually prepare anyone to practice law, and the nature of law school attracts people who often not suited to practice law (probably about 40% are unsuited for it).</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Q Wolfe</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/16/five-myths-about-going-to-law-school/comment-page-2/#comment-267536</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Q Wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 13:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a twenty-five year old disabled senior at a major university with my own prospective on law school. My major right now is political science without any minor causing of thinking that minors are worthless for wha I want to do with my degre. This would be your first mistake if your going to law school with my experience with Harvard professors like othe Ivy league profs out here at my university with or without law school j.d degres can teach you that if you don&#039;t know what your doing law school isn&#039;t for you. Get a nitch in your under graduate by doing tons of research online on market trends don&#039;t go in blindly in anything let alone law school. Another thing that I learned is that college is pointless if your gpa is under 3.00 for the most part in any field especially law. 

    Secondly, many of you had good points to consider even for me cause at one ti I thought about being a lawyer. I&#039;ll tell you guys that I&#039;m convinced that law school isn&#039;t worth the hassle of this untraditional working class blind college student for many reasons. Some people mentioned a passion for your field that is true for me to a limited extent but only up to the point of not surpassing practicality like my under graduate degree isn&#039;t a career track field. Look at all things like variables in a formula in cost-benefit analyst prospectives with what you know and what your willing to give up for that high paying field that gives up much security in the meanwhile. Do you want to RISK 200k roughly in debt for a chance to compete with others and the inflatted market for your skill area with or witohut your expertese or interest in the compatable marketplace? Think about that most importantly in the Market Place not statements of opinion or belief because this is Serious lifelong decision of investment like most education is more than self-enrichment due to the nature of law in general and the market for that skill. 

    Thirdly, I&#039;d like to mention that do your own research if you don&#039;t believe anyone on these posts before making a lifelong decision. Interview and job shadow lawyers in your proposed field before even doing the LSTAT test. I&#039;ll tell you that many college student now days have no idea what so ever with what they want to do post-college years including me to a limited extent. This includes honors students to the low graded level students. May I also say that th also pertains to peopole with internships and even part-time experience causee it isn&#039;t all rosey flowers out here. Also, look inside of yourself for the answers cause these posts mean nothing to those with the know how to do it unlike me. I&#039;ll be the first to tell you that I&#039;m legal material just not lawyer material it turns out that way tha hobbies are hobbies and professions are professions. 

   Finally, I hope that my post will at least give the prospective law student a second glance before deciding a terminal degre of any variety including law. I&#039;m thinking of something in education or foreign analyst work/statistical research for the Census. Also, look at yourself ten or twenty years not now with immediate benefits (e.g. material goods, etc for your young age cause not all things in life are about money. I&#039;m going into a field that is moderately competative and not that high in demand cause of limited abilities of visio that prohibit me from entering a variety of professions that I&#039;d have considered otherwise. Perhaps think like me to sell less to be practical till such a time for either a leisurely study or to quit the idea entirely like my idea of physics or astronomy. Also, ask your family/friends what they think about what skill or trade best fits your personality type. Take some personality quizes or the Miers Brigg test and see a Career Counseler on campus or out of campus. The final point is that Life isn&#039;t wht you so much make of it as much as your willing to adapt to life that counts to be as much satisified with what you have and to pursue realistic dreams withousacrificing practicality in the process. Maybe just maybe we will get through to a few people here that law like most things are hyped up beyond expectations and you will earn every penny in the process of any field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m a twenty-five year old disabled senior at a major university with my own prospective on law school. My major right now is political science without any minor causing of thinking that minors are worthless for wha I want to do with my degre. This would be your first mistake if your going to law school with my experience with Harvard professors like othe Ivy league profs out here at my university with or without law school j.d degres can teach you that if you don&#039;t know what your doing law school isn&#039;t for you. Get a nitch in your under graduate by doing tons of research online on market trends don&#039;t go in blindly in anything let alone law school. Another thing that I learned is that college is pointless if your gpa is under 3.00 for the most part in any field especially law. </p>
<p>    Secondly, many of you had good points to consider even for me cause at one ti I thought about being a lawyer. I&#039;ll tell you guys that I&#039;m convinced that law school isn&#039;t worth the hassle of this untraditional working class blind college student for many reasons. Some people mentioned a passion for your field that is true for me to a limited extent but only up to the point of not surpassing practicality like my under graduate degree isn&#039;t a career track field. Look at all things like variables in a formula in cost-benefit analyst prospectives with what you know and what your willing to give up for that high paying field that gives up much security in the meanwhile. Do you want to RISK 200k roughly in debt for a chance to compete with others and the inflatted market for your skill area with or witohut your expertese or interest in the compatable marketplace? Think about that most importantly in the Market Place not statements of opinion or belief because this is Serious lifelong decision of investment like most education is more than self-enrichment due to the nature of law in general and the market for that skill. </p>
<p>    Thirdly, I&#039;d like to mention that do your own research if you don&#039;t believe anyone on these posts before making a lifelong decision. Interview and job shadow lawyers in your proposed field before even doing the LSTAT test. I&#039;ll tell you that many college student now days have no idea what so ever with what they want to do post-college years including me to a limited extent. This includes honors students to the low graded level students. May I also say that th also pertains to peopole with internships and even part-time experience causee it isn&#039;t all rosey flowers out here. Also, look inside of yourself for the answers cause these posts mean nothing to those with the know how to do it unlike me. I&#039;ll be the first to tell you that I&#039;m legal material just not lawyer material it turns out that way tha hobbies are hobbies and professions are professions. </p>
<p>   Finally, I hope that my post will at least give the prospective law student a second glance before deciding a terminal degre of any variety including law. I&#039;m thinking of something in education or foreign analyst work/statistical research for the Census. Also, look at yourself ten or twenty years not now with immediate benefits (e.g. material goods, etc for your young age cause not all things in life are about money. I&#039;m going into a field that is moderately competative and not that high in demand cause of limited abilities of visio that prohibit me from entering a variety of professions that I&#039;d have considered otherwise. Perhaps think like me to sell less to be practical till such a time for either a leisurely study or to quit the idea entirely like my idea of physics or astronomy. Also, ask your family/friends what they think about what skill or trade best fits your personality type. Take some personality quizes or the Miers Brigg test and see a Career Counseler on campus or out of campus. The final point is that Life isn&#039;t wht you so much make of it as much as your willing to adapt to life that counts to be as much satisified with what you have and to pursue realistic dreams withousacrificing practicality in the process. Maybe just maybe we will get through to a few people here that law like most things are hyped up beyond expectations and you will earn every penny in the process of any field.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/16/five-myths-about-going-to-law-school/comment-page-2/#comment-263850</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a police officer before law school and I had served in the Army. The problem with law students is the most come from priveleged backgrounds and are not familiar with hard work and no getting undergraduate degree is not hard work.

Life is hard get use to it and the law is the only thing that keeps society in control, go to Mexico or some other third world country where  guns rule</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a police officer before law school and I had served in the Army. The problem with law students is the most come from priveleged backgrounds and are not familiar with hard work and no getting undergraduate degree is not hard work.</p>
<p>Life is hard get use to it and the law is the only thing that keeps society in control, go to Mexico or some other third world country where  guns rule</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/16/five-myths-about-going-to-law-school/comment-page-2/#comment-263852</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a police officer before law school and I had served in the Army. The problem with law students is the most come from priveleged backgrounds and are not familiar with hard work and no getting undergraduate degree is not hard work.

Life is hard get use to it and the law is the only thing that keeps society in control, go to Mexico or some other third world country where  guns rule</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a police officer before law school and I had served in the Army. The problem with law students is the most come from priveleged backgrounds and are not familiar with hard work and no getting undergraduate degree is not hard work.</p>
<p>Life is hard get use to it and the law is the only thing that keeps society in control, go to Mexico or some other third world country where  guns rule</p>
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		<title>By: Marantz</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/16/five-myths-about-going-to-law-school/comment-page-2/#comment-263764</link>
		<dc:creator>Marantz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to a Tier 4 school and my GPA is 3.0.  I could have attended a better school with a 164 LSAT (but not a top 14), but chose a University close to home. 

With that said, I never went to law school intending on working for someone else. My passion is with family law and I opened my own practice. I began practicing when I was 52, so new clients assumed I had been an attorney for a long time. To my own accord, I had studied family law on my own for about 15 years before I went to law school. Once in school, I spent many hours in the courtroom just observing, and my experience wasn&#039;t much different than I had reading case law, statute law, actual litigant&#039;s experience and typical outcomes. 

At 57, I have more clients than I can handle. I&#039;ve gained a great reputation of being fair, negotiable, yet out to serve my client and often his/her children. 

My point is that if you know exactly what type of law you want to practice and are willing to work hard, success is challenging, but not all that difficult. 

My only advice is that if you plan to open your own practice, don&#039;t worry about what school you attend. Your goal is to get the license to practice. 

In retrospect, if I had been able to skip law school altogether and just take a class to study for the Bar, I would be in the same place I am now. The school was merely a means to an end. But then, being older, I had 35 years of work experience under my belt in several fields (law enforcement, business owner and mental health professional), so I was well &quot;seasoned&quot; before ever attending law school. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to a Tier 4 school and my GPA is 3.0.  I could have attended a better school with a 164 LSAT (but not a top 14), but chose a University close to home. </p>
<p>With that said, I never went to law school intending on working for someone else. My passion is with family law and I opened my own practice. I began practicing when I was 52, so new clients assumed I had been an attorney for a long time. To my own accord, I had studied family law on my own for about 15 years before I went to law school. Once in school, I spent many hours in the courtroom just observing, and my experience wasn&#039;t much different than I had reading case law, statute law, actual litigant&#039;s experience and typical outcomes. </p>
<p>At 57, I have more clients than I can handle. I&#039;ve gained a great reputation of being fair, negotiable, yet out to serve my client and often his/her children. </p>
<p>My point is that if you know exactly what type of law you want to practice and are willing to work hard, success is challenging, but not all that difficult. </p>
<p>My only advice is that if you plan to open your own practice, don&#039;t worry about what school you attend. Your goal is to get the license to practice. </p>
<p>In retrospect, if I had been able to skip law school altogether and just take a class to study for the Bar, I would be in the same place I am now. The school was merely a means to an end. But then, being older, I had 35 years of work experience under my belt in several fields (law enforcement, business owner and mental health professional), so I was well &#034;seasoned&#034; before ever attending law school.</p>
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		<title>By: Recoverel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Recoverel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the author and other commentators to some degree. Don&#039;t go to law school if you are aiming to become rich (500K+). Very little percentage of law graduates actually achieves this level of income. Don&#039;t go to law school if you have no idea what you want to do with the degree. You will most likely end up incurring a big debt that haunt you for the rest of your life. Don&#039;t go to law school if you are in it for the prestige. A law degree may not get you much attention on dating websites! (Congratulations to those who do...) HOWEVER, as a public interest lawyer myself working in NYC, I love my job. It is intellectually challenging, and I am helping people who cannot stand up for themselves otherwise. I actually practice law: motion practices, oral arguments at lower courts and appellate courts, trials, politics involvements, etc. The myth that public interest lawyers are low-quality is simply untrue. We have people from all tiers of law school, including schools like Harvard and Yale. Many of us are good lawyers! I myself got two awards at graduation, with one of them comes with actual money! As for the compensation, it is really not that bad, at least when compared to the starting salary of some small law firms. Moreover, some nonprofit organizations have unions. This is why organizations like ours offer relatively good benefits. (i.e., PPO within a good healthcare network). Most importantly, I get to enjoy my life outside of work. It is a give-and-take: you make less money, but you are not working 80+ hours a week. Sure, on occasions, you work more, but it is not the norm. I understand not everyone can afford to work in the public interest field, but I think it is something a potential law student should consider.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the author and other commentators to some degree. Don&#039;t go to law school if you are aiming to become rich (500K+). Very little percentage of law graduates actually achieves this level of income. Don&#039;t go to law school if you have no idea what you want to do with the degree. You will most likely end up incurring a big debt that haunt you for the rest of your life. Don&#039;t go to law school if you are in it for the prestige. A law degree may not get you much attention on dating websites! (Congratulations to those who do&#8230;) HOWEVER, as a public interest lawyer myself working in NYC, I love my job. It is intellectually challenging, and I am helping people who cannot stand up for themselves otherwise. I actually practice law: motion practices, oral arguments at lower courts and appellate courts, trials, politics involvements, etc. The myth that public interest lawyers are low-quality is simply untrue. We have people from all tiers of law school, including schools like Harvard and Yale. Many of us are good lawyers! I myself got two awards at graduation, with one of them comes with actual money! As for the compensation, it is really not that bad, at least when compared to the starting salary of some small law firms. Moreover, some nonprofit organizations have unions. This is why organizations like ours offer relatively good benefits. (i.e., PPO within a good healthcare network). Most importantly, I get to enjoy my life outside of work. It is a give-and-take: you make less money, but you are not working 80+ hours a week. Sure, on occasions, you work more, but it is not the norm. I understand not everyone can afford to work in the public interest field, but I think it is something a potential law student should consider.</p>
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		<title>By: sophiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>sophiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 05:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why do you advise people if they should go to law school when you never went to law school yourself? As an actual law student, I can say that almost all of your advice on this topic is wrong. Waste of $$. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why do you advise people if they should go to law school when you never went to law school yourself? As an actual law student, I can say that almost all of your advice on this topic is wrong. Waste of $$. </p>
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		<title>By: Ramuralles</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/16/five-myths-about-going-to-law-school/comment-page-2/#comment-262420</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramuralles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 23:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people are so bitter. It&#039;s almost comical. That includes Stephen Seckler. Hahaha! So sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people are so bitter. It&#039;s almost comical. That includes Stephen Seckler. Hahaha! So sad.</p>
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