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	<title>Comments on: Coachology: How to get into a top business school</title>
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		<title>By: 9 Tips for the Top Ten MBA Wannabe &#124; Twenty Set</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/11/coachology-how-to-get-into-a-top-business-school/#comment-161455</link>
		<dc:creator>9 Tips for the Top Ten MBA Wannabe &#124; Twenty Set</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and a huge online community of people talking about getting into Top 10 schools, plus a group of people who making millions of dollars on coaching and test prep services. This is likely the first of a few articles I will write about graduate [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] and a huge online community of people talking about getting into Top 10 schools, plus a group of people who making millions of dollars on coaching and test prep services. This is likely the first of a few articles I will write about graduate [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Stacy Blackman Consulting : Brazen Careerist - Coachology</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/11/coachology-how-to-get-into-a-top-business-school/#comment-136975</link>
		<dc:creator>Stacy Blackman Consulting : Brazen Careerist - Coachology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/11/coachology-how-to-get-into-a-top-business-school/#comment-136975</guid>
		<description>[...] How to get into a top business school [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] How to get into a top business school [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: 9 Tips for the Top Ten MBA Wannabe</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/11/coachology-how-to-get-into-a-top-business-school/#comment-134236</link>
		<dc:creator>9 Tips for the Top Ten MBA Wannabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/11/coachology-how-to-get-into-a-top-business-school/#comment-134236</guid>
		<description>[...] and a huge online community of people talking about getting into Top 10 schools, plus a group of people who making millions of dollars on coaching and test prep services. This is likely the first of a few articles I will write about graduate [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] and a huge online community of people talking about getting into Top 10 schools, plus a group of people who making millions of dollars on coaching and test prep services. This is likely the first of a few articles I will write about graduate [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;s Time for Some Thrilling Heroics: Commit to Pursuing Your Wildest Dreams with ThrillingHeroics.com! : THRILLINGheroics: Gen-Y Tips for Leadership, Personal Growth, and Success</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/11/coachology-how-to-get-into-a-top-business-school/#comment-125840</link>
		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s Time for Some Thrilling Heroics: Commit to Pursuing Your Wildest Dreams with ThrillingHeroics.com! : THRILLINGheroics: Gen-Y Tips for Leadership, Personal Growth, and Success</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/11/coachology-how-to-get-into-a-top-business-school/#comment-125840</guid>
		<description>[...] How To Get Into a Top University Finally, I do still plan to apply to the Stanford Graduate School of Business, but not for a while. Once I prove myself with a few more years of career experience, either through the success or failure of my business and other professional pursuits, I feel I&#8217;ll be more qualified to work alongside other entrepreneurs and young leaders at one of the world&#8217;s best B-schools! I still maintain my strong interest in studying green business and social entrepreneurship at the University&#8217;s Center for Social Innovation and the Stanford Technology Ventures Program, but of course, coming from a not-quite-so-prestigious state school, it will be quite a challenge. For anyone who wants to apply to a big, competitive university, the keys are to show your dedication to acheivement and personal growth, and to convince the program&#8217;s admissions officers that you&#8217;re planning to do great things with a degree from their school. Also, it doesn&#8217;t hurt to build relationships with faculty or with members of the alumni network! Here are more valuable tips from Penelope Trunk. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] How To Get Into a Top University Finally, I do still plan to apply to the Stanford Graduate School of Business, but not for a while. Once I prove myself with a few more years of career experience, either through the success or failure of my business and other professional pursuits, I feel I&#8217;ll be more qualified to work alongside other entrepreneurs and young leaders at one of the world&#8217;s best B-schools! I still maintain my strong interest in studying green business and social entrepreneurship at the University&#8217;s Center for Social Innovation and the Stanford Technology Ventures Program, but of course, coming from a not-quite-so-prestigious state school, it will be quite a challenge. For anyone who wants to apply to a big, competitive university, the keys are to show your dedication to acheivement and personal growth, and to convince the program&#8217;s admissions officers that you&#8217;re planning to do great things with a degree from their school. Also, it doesn&#8217;t hurt to build relationships with faculty or with members of the alumni network! Here are more valuable tips from Penelope Trunk. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/11/coachology-how-to-get-into-a-top-business-school/#comment-108595</link>
		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 05:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/11/coachology-how-to-get-into-a-top-business-school/#comment-108595</guid>
		<description>Hi Penelope.  I really like your blog and read it every day.  Every once in awhile you write things that annoy me, but that's fine because a lot of times you say things I completely agree with.  I also love the twentysomething column (I'm 23 and work full-time) and I'm excited about your new business venture with Ryan.

I go to the Chicago GSB (part-time), so I'm a little passionate about this topic.  I must agree with the five things listed above, but also say if a person has these five areas covered, they don't need consulting services to get into a Top 10.  On the flip side, if you don't have these covered you probably have slim chances of getting in no matter who writes your application.  So if you're a great candidate but completely clueless on how to complete an application, hire Stacy.  Otherwise, just fill out the application(s) yourself and save $3500.  (No offense Stacy - I'm sure your business will prosper regardless of my comment.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Penelope.  I really like your blog and read it every day.  Every once in awhile you write things that annoy me, but that&#8217;s fine because a lot of times you say things I completely agree with.  I also love the twentysomething column (I&#8217;m 23 and work full-time) and I&#8217;m excited about your new business venture with Ryan.</p>
<p>I go to the Chicago GSB (part-time), so I&#8217;m a little passionate about this topic.  I must agree with the five things listed above, but also say if a person has these five areas covered, they don&#8217;t need consulting services to get into a Top 10.  On the flip side, if you don&#8217;t have these covered you probably have slim chances of getting in no matter who writes your application.  So if you&#8217;re a great candidate but completely clueless on how to complete an application, hire Stacy.  Otherwise, just fill out the application(s) yourself and save $3500.  (No offense Stacy - I&#8217;m sure your business will prosper regardless of my comment.)</p>
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		<title>By: Caitlin</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/11/coachology-how-to-get-into-a-top-business-school/#comment-70538</link>
		<dc:creator>Caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 12:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/11/coachology-how-to-get-into-a-top-business-school/#comment-70538</guid>
		<description>You are right that one thing people need to consider is the connections they will be making with other MBA students in their class. However, this varies hugely by industry, not just the business school you attend.

I know someone who did an MBA at a very highly regarded business school (but outside of the United States). The people in his class were  of excellent calibre and have turned out to be leaders of business and industry. All well and good, except that they mostly working in the world of banking, finance, telecommunications and so on. He works in the music and entertainment industry where relatively few people do MBAs. So, whilst he made some good connections with people at university, they are not particularly useful for him as professional connections. He learnt a lot doing his MBA and feels it has been useful for his career. However, he says that the return on investment on his time and tuition fees has not been as great for him in his chosen profession as it would have been had he been working in a more traditional industry.

The other thing is that in many places, universities make a great deal of money out of foreign students. For example, I know of another man who did an MBA at what is probably Australia's top business school the Australian Graduate School of Management (AGSM). Australia is a very popular place for students from Asia to study as it offers a high quality of education at competitive prices and a chance to be independent from their families and practise English. My friend is in no way racist and on a personal level he was more than happy to engage with the foreign students. However, it was not without misgivings on a professional level. 

The issue is that the foreign students were usually young, straight out of their undergraduate course and without industry experience. More importantly, they almost always leave Australia after graduation and the expiry of their student visas and build a career in their home countries. My friend was torn because he was often put into group work or paired with young foreign students, which was fine occasionally, but he felt that when he was paying $50,000+ he should be making an effort to make useful professional connections for his future career in Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right that one thing people need to consider is the connections they will be making with other MBA students in their class. However, this varies hugely by industry, not just the business school you attend.</p>
<p>I know someone who did an MBA at a very highly regarded business school (but outside of the United States). The people in his class were  of excellent calibre and have turned out to be leaders of business and industry. All well and good, except that they mostly working in the world of banking, finance, telecommunications and so on. He works in the music and entertainment industry where relatively few people do MBAs. So, whilst he made some good connections with people at university, they are not particularly useful for him as professional connections. He learnt a lot doing his MBA and feels it has been useful for his career. However, he says that the return on investment on his time and tuition fees has not been as great for him in his chosen profession as it would have been had he been working in a more traditional industry.</p>
<p>The other thing is that in many places, universities make a great deal of money out of foreign students. For example, I know of another man who did an MBA at what is probably Australia&#8217;s top business school the Australian Graduate School of Management (AGSM). Australia is a very popular place for students from Asia to study as it offers a high quality of education at competitive prices and a chance to be independent from their families and practise English. My friend is in no way racist and on a personal level he was more than happy to engage with the foreign students. However, it was not without misgivings on a professional level. </p>
<p>The issue is that the foreign students were usually young, straight out of their undergraduate course and without industry experience. More importantly, they almost always leave Australia after graduation and the expiry of their student visas and build a career in their home countries. My friend was torn because he was often put into group work or paired with young foreign students, which was fine occasionally, but he felt that when he was paying $50,000+ he should be making an effort to make useful professional connections for his future career in Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: Berkeley Student</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/11/coachology-how-to-get-into-a-top-business-school/#comment-70060</link>
		<dc:creator>Berkeley Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 06:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/11/coachology-how-to-get-into-a-top-business-school/#comment-70060</guid>
		<description>Berkeley! 3 e's! You should be able to spell the name of the school you hope to attend ;)

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&lt;I&gt;Thanks :)

I changed it.

-P&lt;/I&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Berkeley! 3 e&#8217;s! You should be able to spell the name of the school you hope to attend ;)</p>
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<p><i>Thanks :)</p>
<p>I changed it.</p>
<p>-P</i></p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/11/coachology-how-to-get-into-a-top-business-school/#comment-69736</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 18:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/11/coachology-how-to-get-into-a-top-business-school/#comment-69736</guid>
		<description>You and Ms. Blackman have formed quite a mutual admiration society:

&lt;a href="http://blog.stacyblackman.com/2007/04/30/admissions-tip-crafting-your-story/" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://blog.stacyblackman.com/2007/04/30/admissions-tip-crafting-your-story/&lt;/a&gt;

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&lt;I&gt;David, I'm glad you brought this up. Because I'm always talking about how blogging is a great way to make meaningful connections with people. And I didn't know of Stacy until I saw that she linked to my blog. But I check out all the blogs that link to Brazen Careerist, and I was really excited with Stacy's. I knew right away she'd be full of interesting information.

--Penelope&lt;/I&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You and Ms. Blackman have formed quite a mutual admiration society:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.stacyblackman.com/2007/04/30/admissions-tip-crafting-your-story/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.stacyblackman.com/2007/04/30/admissions-tip-crafting-your-story/</a></p>
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<p><i>David, I&#8217;m glad you brought this up. Because I&#8217;m always talking about how blogging is a great way to make meaningful connections with people. And I didn&#8217;t know of Stacy until I saw that she linked to my blog. But I check out all the blogs that link to Brazen Careerist, and I was really excited with Stacy&#8217;s. I knew right away she&#8217;d be full of interesting information.</p>
<p>&#8211;Penelope</i></p>
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