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		<title>By: Unemployed? Just have a baby! &#124; Subterfuge Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/05/01/forget-about-the-wage-gap-what-about-the-web-20-gap/comment-page-1/#comment-247881</link>
		<dc:creator>Unemployed? Just have a baby! &#124; Subterfuge Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 17:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] during her first five years of work. We all know it’s happening. But we also know that there is no longer a salary gap between men and women, and we know that there aremore unemployed men than women. So it’s hard to show that women are [...]</description>
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		<title>By: If You&#8217;re Still Mad About The Gender Gap, Blame Nature - Finding Out About</title>
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		<dc:creator>If You&#8217;re Still Mad About The Gender Gap, Blame Nature - Finding Out About</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 15:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] action? Encouraging girls in math? The answer to all these questions is a resounding no. Most gender gaps have closed in the US workplace. The remaining gaps are natural and fine for a respectful, equal-opportunity [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] action? Encouraging girls in math? The answer to all these questions is a resounding no. Most gender gaps have closed in the US workplace. The remaining gaps are natural and fine for a respectful, equal-opportunity [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mad About the Gender Gap? Blame Nature</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mad About the Gender Gap? Blame Nature</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] action? Encouraging girls in math? The answer to all these questions is a resounding no. Most gender gaps have closed in the US workplace. The remaining gaps are natural and fine for a respectful, equal-opportunity workplace. For [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] action? Encouraging girls in math? The answer to all these questions is a resounding no. Most gender gaps have closed in the US workplace. The remaining gaps are natural and fine for a respectful, equal-opportunity workplace. For [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Unemployed? Just have a baby! &#124; Subterfuge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unemployed? Just have a baby! &#124; Subterfuge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 01:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] during her first five years of work. We all know it’s happening. But we also know that there is no longer a salary gap between men and women, and we know that there aremore unemployed men than women. So it’s hard to show that women are [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mary M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 02:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think I mentioned it on my rant below, but I actually agree with Penelope on the pay gap thing. It&#039;s moot whether or not a man makes more then a woman, because if you don&#039;t like what your boss is paying you, you don&#039;t accept it, period.

And I am a strong believer that no two jobs are identical even if they share the same title simply because the competency and work ethic of the two employees who hold these titles will never be the same, regardless of whether or not one has a penis and the other a vagina. You as the employee determine your value to the company by your own actions and capabilities, as I have learned first-hand in my career in the web 2.0 world.

When I started coding websites, I was low-balled for my inexperience, so I bit the bullet and worked for that web design company until I developed enough skills to be worth much much more to someone else.

And as to the doe-eyed sex kitten advertised on the poker site, I have two words for you: sex sells. EVEN to women. Believe me, I know. I make these ads for a living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t think I mentioned it on my rant below, but I actually agree with Penelope on the pay gap thing. It&#039;s moot whether or not a man makes more then a woman, because if you don&#039;t like what your boss is paying you, you don&#039;t accept it, period.</p>
<p>And I am a strong believer that no two jobs are identical even if they share the same title simply because the competency and work ethic of the two employees who hold these titles will never be the same, regardless of whether or not one has a penis and the other a vagina. You as the employee determine your value to the company by your own actions and capabilities, as I have learned first-hand in my career in the web 2.0 world.</p>
<p>When I started coding websites, I was low-balled for my inexperience, so I bit the bullet and worked for that web design company until I developed enough skills to be worth much much more to someone else.</p>
<p>And as to the doe-eyed sex kitten advertised on the poker site, I have two words for you: sex sells. EVEN to women. Believe me, I know. I make these ads for a living.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 02:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can agree on your statement that filing a sexual harassment claim is more trouble then its worth. And I also

Nothing else you&#039;ve written is relevant to the professional women I interact with on a daily basis.

I&#039;m 24 years old, happily married and approaching my second anniversary, so by your terms, I&#039;ve got a jump-start on this whole baby-making business and should put my career on the backburner for now.

Gosh, lady, you couldn&#039;t be farther from the truth.

I&#039;m a web developer and SEO analyst, well diversed in all things internet related, I code PHP, JavaScript, CSS, XHTML, and am comfortable with content management systems such as Joomla, ModX  and Wordpress. AND I can Photoshop even the homeliest looking woman to make the likes of Miranda Kerr jealous. Or on the flipside, cover a model&#039;s backside with cellulite so real you&#039;d think it was your own.

This makes me a very, very valuable commodity in my industry. And I don&#039;t even have a degree.

My husband, on the other hand, is a highly educated, electrical engineer - who has been unemployed for six months since his company went under. So obviously, I&#039;m the breadwinner here. But not just because I have to be. My work is my passion - I breathe in and ingest all the information I can to keep my skills sharp. I happily volunteer a 60-hour work week (regardless of what my husband thinks, who, incidentally, aspires for that fabled 4-hour work week).

But if I took a few years off to pop out a litter, I wouldn&#039;t have a career to come back to. See, the technology field is rapidly changing, and everything you think you know is outdated within 2 years. My obsession with keeping up with the times allowed me to climb the  ladder over in employers who were far too comfortable with their own skillsets.

And as to the woman&#039;s voice being subtly silenced thanks to the web 2.0 movement, well again, you couldn&#039;t be any further from the truth. Mommy blogs have taken the world of internet business by storm - having a down to earth &quot;Oprah effect&quot; on female consumers. A mother&#039;s voice online is so powerful that big business are competing for adspace on these woman&#039;s blogs, or maybe even some shameless product placements - for a fee.

Do I want kids? Yes. Do I want kids before 30? Not a chance in hell. But if by some unintended &quot;blessing&quot; I should end up with  one before then, there&#039;sjust no way I&#039;m going to slam the brakes on my career.

I personally don&#039;t think your blanket statements just apply to the younger, technologically-savvy generation of business women. My company was started by men, but in the last two years, all of the tech and marketing positions were ultimately earned by highly competitive, incredibly  competent women who left their male counterparts eating dust. Four of which are mothers (one of which was pregnant and worked remotely when she was too big to be of use in-office, and came back to work sans maternity leave).

Women like myself, who just so happen to squeeze in some time at the end of a busy workday to turn on Xbox Live and own some newbs on Call of Duty.</description>
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<p>Nothing else you&#039;ve written is relevant to the professional women I interact with on a daily basis.</p>
<p>I&#039;m 24 years old, happily married and approaching my second anniversary, so by your terms, I&#039;ve got a jump-start on this whole baby-making business and should put my career on the backburner for now.</p>
<p>Gosh, lady, you couldn&#039;t be farther from the truth.</p>
<p>I&#039;m a web developer and SEO analyst, well diversed in all things internet related, I code PHP, JavaScript, CSS, XHTML, and am comfortable with content management systems such as Joomla, ModX  and WordPress. AND I can Photoshop even the homeliest looking woman to make the likes of Miranda Kerr jealous. Or on the flipside, cover a model&#039;s backside with cellulite so real you&#039;d think it was your own.</p>
<p>This makes me a very, very valuable commodity in my industry. And I don&#039;t even have a degree.</p>
<p>My husband, on the other hand, is a highly educated, electrical engineer &#8211; who has been unemployed for six months since his company went under. So obviously, I&#039;m the breadwinner here. But not just because I have to be. My work is my passion &#8211; I breathe in and ingest all the information I can to keep my skills sharp. I happily volunteer a 60-hour work week (regardless of what my husband thinks, who, incidentally, aspires for that fabled 4-hour work week).</p>
<p>But if I took a few years off to pop out a litter, I wouldn&#039;t have a career to come back to. See, the technology field is rapidly changing, and everything you think you know is outdated within 2 years. My obsession with keeping up with the times allowed me to climb the  ladder over in employers who were far too comfortable with their own skillsets.</p>
<p>And as to the woman&#039;s voice being subtly silenced thanks to the web 2.0 movement, well again, you couldn&#039;t be any further from the truth. Mommy blogs have taken the world of internet business by storm &#8211; having a down to earth &#034;Oprah effect&#034; on female consumers. A mother&#039;s voice online is so powerful that big business are competing for adspace on these woman&#039;s blogs, or maybe even some shameless product placements &#8211; for a fee.</p>
<p>Do I want kids? Yes. Do I want kids before 30? Not a chance in hell. But if by some unintended &#034;blessing&#034; I should end up with  one before then, there&#039;sjust no way I&#039;m going to slam the brakes on my career.</p>
<p>I personally don&#039;t think your blanket statements just apply to the younger, technologically-savvy generation of business women. My company was started by men, but in the last two years, all of the tech and marketing positions were ultimately earned by highly competitive, incredibly  competent women who left their male counterparts eating dust. Four of which are mothers (one of which was pregnant and worked remotely when she was too big to be of use in-office, and came back to work sans maternity leave).</p>
<p>Women like myself, who just so happen to squeeze in some time at the end of a busy workday to turn on Xbox Live and own some newbs on Call of Duty.</p>
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		<title>By: CAG</title>
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		<dc:creator>CAG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have got to be kidding. This is a facetious article, right?</description>
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		<title>By: The Terrible Career Advice Women Give Each Other &#124; Personal Success &#124; BNET</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Terrible Career Advice Women Give Each Other &#124; Personal Success &#124; BNET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 18:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] her first five years of work. We all know it&#8217;s happening. But we also know that there is no longer a salary gap between men and women, and we know that there are more unemployed men than women. So it&#8217;s hard to show that women [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] her first five years of work. We all know it&#039;s happening. But we also know that there is no longer a salary gap between men and women, and we know that there are more unemployed men than women. So it&#039;s hard to show that women [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 21:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The media tends not to be interested in statistical significance, just if it makes a good story.</description>
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		<title>By: Female doctors scapegoat for Canadian doctor shortage: National Post &#171; Evidenced.blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Female doctors scapegoat for Canadian doctor shortage: National Post &#171; Evidenced.blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 00:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] isn&#8217;t surprising. Women in general tend to lag behind men in career success once they have kids, in part because they put in fewer hours. If a woman wants to put her career on the back burner to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] isn&#039;t surprising. Women in general tend to lag behind men in career success once they have kids, in part because they put in fewer hours. If a woman wants to put her career on the back burner to [...]</p>
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