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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 12:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im really enjoying this blog

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		<title>By: BodyPiercingJewellery</title>
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		<dc:creator>BodyPiercingJewellery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 12:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I try to use rewards to get a task completed by a certain time</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try to use rewards to get a task completed by a certain time</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 12:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a shocker - i find excuses just to go get food or water everytime!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a shocker &#8211; i find excuses just to go get food or water everytime!</p>
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		<title>By: Mandla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 23:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a little trick I use to get over the procrastination over big tasks. I tell myself I&#039;ll do just 10 minutes of it (e.g. write the headings and table of contents), after which I&#039;ll get coffee or water. Something interesting usually happens: 10 mins turns into 30, 60 ...
Try it. Problem is I forget to employ this trick half the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#039;s a little trick I use to get over the procrastination over big tasks. I tell myself I&#039;ll do just 10 minutes of it (e.g. write the headings and table of contents), after which I&#039;ll get coffee or water. Something interesting usually happens: 10 mins turns into 30, 60 &#8230;<br />
Try it. Problem is I forget to employ this trick half the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 13:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is good advice. I tend to do the small things first and let the big things go last. I think I&#039;m pretty good at prioritizing my schedule, but I still need adjustments to what should be done today vs what is due at the end of the week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is good advice. I tend to do the small things first and let the big things go last. I think I&#039;m pretty good at prioritizing my schedule, but I still need adjustments to what should be done today vs what is due at the end of the week.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 05:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a great way of looking at our tasks. Sometimes, the problem is that I underestimate the task and I end up having not enought time to finish that specific task. I guess it&#039;s a common mistake we all make.

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&lt;em&gt;I think you&#039;re right, that it is a common mistake. But sometimes what we need in order to see something clearly is for someone to put it into words for us. I think, actually, that this is why productivity is such a popular topic on the Internet (your web site, for example). Because productivity works sort of like Alcoholics Anonymous (although with obvious differences) in that if  you name the problem and talk about it all the time, you have to face it.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;--Penelope

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a great way of looking at our tasks. Sometimes, the problem is that I underestimate the task and I end up having not enought time to finish that specific task. I guess it&#039;s a common mistake we all make.</p>
<p><strong>* * * * * *</strong></p>
<p><em>I think you&#039;re right, that it is a common mistake. But sometimes what we need in order to see something clearly is for someone to put it into words for us. I think, actually, that this is why productivity is such a popular topic on the Internet (your web site, for example). Because productivity works sort of like Alcoholics Anonymous (although with obvious differences) in that if  you name the problem and talk about it all the time, you have to face it.</em><em>&#8211;Penelope</p>
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		<title>By: Prashant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prashant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the time I&#039;ve done the easier things first, procrastinating the rest. And more often than not, it has created problems.. In a recent training session in my organization (I also read this in &#039;7 Habits...&#039;), we were informed about the quadrant for importance and urgency - every task can be classified as low or high on both counts.

The beauty of it is that if you manage to consistently do the &quot;Important but Not Urgent&quot; tasks on time, you will rarely have &quot;Important and Urgent&quot; tasks on your table.

The hard part, of course, is implementing this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the time I&#039;ve done the easier things first, procrastinating the rest. And more often than not, it has created problems.. In a recent training session in my organization (I also read this in &#039;7 Habits&#8230;&#039;), we were informed about the quadrant for importance and urgency &#8211; every task can be classified as low or high on both counts.</p>
<p>The beauty of it is that if you manage to consistently do the &#034;Important but Not Urgent&#034; tasks on time, you will rarely have &#034;Important and Urgent&#034; tasks on your table.</p>
<p>The hard part, of course, is implementing this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Potres</title>
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		<dc:creator>Potres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I plan to leave myself some extra time to finish time consuming tasks, it usually leads to procrastinating, a lack of focus, and even lower quality of work. That helped me realize that the only way I can be not only productive, but also able to produce a good quality of work is when I am under a lot of time pressure.

As you can imagine that kind of approach results in long work days, a lot of stress and a jealousy for people that can just go home and relax after their workday is over. 

I’ve been trying to change my work habits for years, but I am starting to believe that how I go about planning my week/month has more to do with personality attributes than time management skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I plan to leave myself some extra time to finish time consuming tasks, it usually leads to procrastinating, a lack of focus, and even lower quality of work. That helped me realize that the only way I can be not only productive, but also able to produce a good quality of work is when I am under a lot of time pressure.</p>
<p>As you can imagine that kind of approach results in long work days, a lot of stress and a jealousy for people that can just go home and relax after their workday is over. </p>
<p>I’ve been trying to change my work habits for years, but I am starting to believe that how I go about planning my week/month has more to do with personality attributes than time management skills.</p>
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		<title>By: Denis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But Harvard psychologist Daniel Gilbert gives us encouraging news in his book Stumbling on Happiness: The people who overestimate how much better the future will be are actually the happiest people. So maybe being realistic about our time is not so great after all.&quot;

Penelope, after reading your blog for a while, I got interested in the two books that you frequently cite: the Gilbert&#039;s one and Seligman&#039;s &quot;Learned Optimism&quot;. Seligman actually cites research that shows that generally pessimistic people are the ones who are much more realistic than the optimists. At the same time, pessimists get ill and depressed more often, achieve less in life etc.

Obviously, both optimistic outlook and realistic estimates are useful at different times. I haven&#039;t finished Seligman&#039;s book yet but, as I understand, his solution is the idea of &quot;flexible optimism&quot; when the (typically optimistic) individual is aware of human nature to make faulty estimates (especially in the optimistic state) and turns optimism off from time to time to make realistic judgements.

I think we need realism when we do our daily planning and when we choose a task to do right now from our daily to-do list. When we are actually in the process of doing then it&#039;s better to put on a huge hat of optimism.

(On a side note, I found Gilbert&#039;s book rather depressing with research after research showing how pathetic we humans are at making predictions about our feelings after particular events in the future. His style is entertaining but I&#039;d rather read Seligman&#039;s book who is actually trying to show the way out of the thinking style that each of us develops by the time we reach adulthood.)

* * * * * * * *

&lt;I&gt;Oh, this is a great comment. A great summary of the positive psychology movment.

Seligman tells everyone, you can do it, you can do it, you can be happy. And Gilbert is always complaining the the positive pscychology movment feels like a feel-good cult and he doesn&#039;t feel comfortable associated with something that feels like that; sometimes he strikes me as Mr. Pessimism wrapped up in a chirpy sense of humor. 

I think I agree more with Seligman, but only because I&#039;m as optimistic as he is, and the research Gilbert spews is so interesting, but at it&#039;s core, so sad. To be honest, though, although Seligman says that you can alter your optimism set point, I&#039;ve never seen anyone do it.

--Penelope&lt;/I&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;But Harvard psychologist Daniel Gilbert gives us encouraging news in his book Stumbling on Happiness: The people who overestimate how much better the future will be are actually the happiest people. So maybe being realistic about our time is not so great after all.&#034;</p>
<p>Penelope, after reading your blog for a while, I got interested in the two books that you frequently cite: the Gilbert&#039;s one and Seligman&#039;s &#034;Learned Optimism&#034;. Seligman actually cites research that shows that generally pessimistic people are the ones who are much more realistic than the optimists. At the same time, pessimists get ill and depressed more often, achieve less in life etc.</p>
<p>Obviously, both optimistic outlook and realistic estimates are useful at different times. I haven&#039;t finished Seligman&#039;s book yet but, as I understand, his solution is the idea of &#034;flexible optimism&#034; when the (typically optimistic) individual is aware of human nature to make faulty estimates (especially in the optimistic state) and turns optimism off from time to time to make realistic judgements.</p>
<p>I think we need realism when we do our daily planning and when we choose a task to do right now from our daily to-do list. When we are actually in the process of doing then it&#039;s better to put on a huge hat of optimism.</p>
<p>(On a side note, I found Gilbert&#039;s book rather depressing with research after research showing how pathetic we humans are at making predictions about our feelings after particular events in the future. His style is entertaining but I&#039;d rather read Seligman&#039;s book who is actually trying to show the way out of the thinking style that each of us develops by the time we reach adulthood.)</p>
<p>* * * * * * * *</p>
<p><i>Oh, this is a great comment. A great summary of the positive psychology movment.</p>
<p>Seligman tells everyone, you can do it, you can do it, you can be happy. And Gilbert is always complaining the the positive pscychology movment feels like a feel-good cult and he doesn&#039;t feel comfortable associated with something that feels like that; sometimes he strikes me as Mr. Pessimism wrapped up in a chirpy sense of humor. </p>
<p>I think I agree more with Seligman, but only because I&#039;m as optimistic as he is, and the research Gilbert spews is so interesting, but at it&#039;s core, so sad. To be honest, though, although Seligman says that you can alter your optimism set point, I&#039;ve never seen anyone do it.</p>
<p>&#8211;Penelope</i></p>
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		<title>By: peter vajda</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter vajda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the issue of money and time are similar. One can spend (waste?) time/money and/or invest time/money. One has a return the other doesn&#039;t. There are purposeful ways of dealing with both.

My coaching clients who are time challenged commit to playing their day backward most nights, starting with the last task and working toward the first, with a focus on time involved in each task. 

When we work &quot;forward&quot;, well, everything can seem important and/or urgent at the time, or at least we can rationalize that&#039;s so. On the other hand, when working backward, after the fact, there is often another sense of what honestly demanded time and what honestly did not. 

For example, moving forward, perhaps watching TV for 3 hours seems right, justifiable, etc. Working backwards and seeing, hmmm, getting ready for bed (20 minutes), preceded by three hours of TV, preceded by having dinner with the kids (45 minutes) may seem a bit &quot;off&quot; in the way one is spending vs. investing one&#039;s time. 

This playing-my-day-backwards strategy can be useful when we wonder &quot;where did my time go?&quot; or am I &quot;spending&quot; vs &quot;investing&quot; my time appropriately. It provides a very different context (often insightful but maybe not always pleasant) with which to explore how one uses one&#039;s time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the issue of money and time are similar. One can spend (waste?) time/money and/or invest time/money. One has a return the other doesn&#039;t. There are purposeful ways of dealing with both.</p>
<p>My coaching clients who are time challenged commit to playing their day backward most nights, starting with the last task and working toward the first, with a focus on time involved in each task. </p>
<p>When we work &#034;forward&#034;, well, everything can seem important and/or urgent at the time, or at least we can rationalize that&#039;s so. On the other hand, when working backward, after the fact, there is often another sense of what honestly demanded time and what honestly did not. </p>
<p>For example, moving forward, perhaps watching TV for 3 hours seems right, justifiable, etc. Working backwards and seeing, hmmm, getting ready for bed (20 minutes), preceded by three hours of TV, preceded by having dinner with the kids (45 minutes) may seem a bit &#034;off&#034; in the way one is spending vs. investing one&#039;s time. </p>
<p>This playing-my-day-backwards strategy can be useful when we wonder &#034;where did my time go?&#034; or am I &#034;spending&#034; vs &#034;investing&#034; my time appropriately. It provides a very different context (often insightful but maybe not always pleasant) with which to explore how one uses one&#039;s time.</p>
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