Comments on: Yahoo column: Five steps for getting a raise http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/04/05/yahoo-column-five-steps-for-getting-a-raise/ Advice at the intersection of work and life Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:15:53 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: You Can At Least Pretend That You Can Wait to Lead : Brazen Careerist http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/04/05/yahoo-column-five-steps-for-getting-a-raise/comment-page-1/#comment-143468 You Can At Least Pretend That You Can Wait to Lead : Brazen Careerist Fri, 11 Apr 2008 02:28:11 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/04/05/yahoo-column-five-steps-for-getting-a-raise/#comment-143468 [...] GPAs, even though there’s nothing wrong with those things. So, see your first post-grad job as an investment in your career just like you did your college experience (which you paid for outright!) Employers also understand [...] [...] GPAs, even though there’s nothing wrong with those things. So, see your first post-grad job as an investment in your career just like you did your college experience (which you paid for outright!) Employers also understand [...]

]]> By: Note to Millennials: You Aren’t Workforce Royalty Yet at Personal PR http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/04/05/yahoo-column-five-steps-for-getting-a-raise/comment-page-1/#comment-143126 Note to Millennials: You Aren’t Workforce Royalty Yet at Personal PR Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:53:32 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/04/05/yahoo-column-five-steps-for-getting-a-raise/#comment-143126 [...] even though there’s nothing wrong with those things. So, see your first post-grad job as an investment in your career just like you did your college experience (which you paid for outright!) Employers also understand [...] [...] even though there's nothing wrong with those things. So, see your first post-grad job as an investment in your career just like you did your college experience (which you paid for outright!) Employers also understand [...]

]]> By: Mike http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/04/05/yahoo-column-five-steps-for-getting-a-raise/comment-page-1/#comment-59079 Mike Fri, 20 Apr 2007 01:15:05 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/04/05/yahoo-column-five-steps-for-getting-a-raise/#comment-59079 Penelope - I loved this column. I reviewed it on my blog (The Daily Machete) and added my own thoughts how to get raises. Hope you don't mind I used the same headings (I figured if it ain't broke...). You can read the post here: http://machete.wildjobsafari.com/2007/04/19/interviewing-how-to-brazenly-ask-for-a-raise.aspx Keep up the great work! Mike Penelope -

I loved this column. I reviewed it on my blog (The Daily Machete) and added my own thoughts how to get raises. Hope you don't mind I used the same headings (I figured if it ain't broke…). You can read the post here: http://machete.wildjobsafari.com/2007/04/19/interviewing-how-to-brazenly-ask-for-a-raise.aspx

Keep up the great work!

Mike

]]> By: AjiNIMC http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/04/05/yahoo-column-five-steps-for-getting-a-raise/comment-page-1/#comment-53848 AjiNIMC Sat, 07 Apr 2007 17:00:05 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/04/05/yahoo-column-five-steps-for-getting-a-raise/#comment-53848 No worries Penelope, keep doing what you like. As someone once said, "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who matter, don't mind and those who mind, don't matter." (if they hate they have choices and can leave but if they are after you then they are reading it for sure, thats a good achievement.). I always love checking the online behavior and planning to visit some of your posts and comments. No worries Penelope, keep doing what you like. As someone once said, "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who matter, don't mind and those who mind, don't matter." (if they hate they have choices and can leave but if they are after you then they are reading it for sure, thats a good achievement.). I always love checking the online behavior and planning to visit some of your posts and comments.

]]> By: AjiNIMC http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/04/05/yahoo-column-five-steps-for-getting-a-raise/comment-page-1/#comment-53795 AjiNIMC Sat, 07 Apr 2007 14:29:27 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/04/05/yahoo-column-five-steps-for-getting-a-raise/#comment-53795 I was wondering why a lot of people are giving negative comments to your article at Y!Fin. * * * * * * <I>Yeah, I wonder this, too. I can't believe how many people take the time to comment week after week about how much they hate me. I wonder why they don't just read a columnist they'd like more. Also, I find it incredible how many people post comments about sex. I asked my editor at Yahoo about that and he told me he actually deletes most of them, which is amazing to me, since there are so many left over. --Penelope </i> I was wondering why a lot of people are giving negative comments to your article at Y!Fin.

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Yeah, I wonder this, too. I can't believe how many people take the time to comment week after week about how much they hate me. I wonder why they don't just read a columnist they'd like more. Also, I find it incredible how many people post comments about sex. I asked my editor at Yahoo about that and he told me he actually deletes most of them, which is amazing to me, since there are so many left over.

–Penelope

]]> By: Kumar http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/04/05/yahoo-column-five-steps-for-getting-a-raise/comment-page-1/#comment-53558 Kumar Sat, 07 Apr 2007 01:24:43 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/04/05/yahoo-column-five-steps-for-getting-a-raise/#comment-53558 This article is an eye opener to me. I really liked this sentence: "You don’t deserve a raise just because you’ve been doing your job well for x number of months. It’s your job to do your job well — that’s why you were hired. You need to show that you’re doing more than you were hired to do, or that you’re doing different work that’s typically paid at a higher rate." Yes, we have go above & beyond to demonstrate that we are trudly adding a value to the organization. I'm going to keep this in mind at the time of performance discussions with my reports as well as my management. Great one, Penelope. This article is an eye opener to me. I really liked this sentence:

"You don’t deserve a raise just because you’ve been doing your job well for x number of months. It’s your job to do your job well — that’s why you were hired. You need to show that you’re doing more than you were hired to do, or that you’re doing different work that’s typically paid at a higher rate."
Yes, we have go above & beyond to demonstrate that we are trudly adding a value to the organization. I'm going to keep this in mind at the time of performance discussions with my reports as well as my management. Great one, Penelope.

]]> By: Dale http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/04/05/yahoo-column-five-steps-for-getting-a-raise/comment-page-1/#comment-53415 Dale Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:14:00 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/04/05/yahoo-column-five-steps-for-getting-a-raise/#comment-53415 Penny, The truth hurts only when we are not prepared to accept it! This advice will only work if we are prepared to actively manage our lives/careers/actions in the same way that top level management manage a company's resources - STRATEGICALLY. Thanks for the heads up:) Penny,

The truth hurts only when we are not prepared to accept it! This advice will only work if we are prepared to actively manage our lives/careers/actions in the same way that top level management manage a company's resources – STRATEGICALLY.
Thanks for the heads up:)

]]> By: Anita http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/04/05/yahoo-column-five-steps-for-getting-a-raise/comment-page-1/#comment-53088 Anita Fri, 06 Apr 2007 00:54:13 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/04/05/yahoo-column-five-steps-for-getting-a-raise/#comment-53088 I just saw this on the front page of Yahoo, how cool! Awesome article Penelope. I just saw this on the front page of Yahoo, how cool! Awesome article Penelope.

]]> By: Hunter Arnold http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/04/05/yahoo-column-five-steps-for-getting-a-raise/comment-page-1/#comment-53044 Hunter Arnold Thu, 05 Apr 2007 18:51:35 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/04/05/yahoo-column-five-steps-for-getting-a-raise/#comment-53044 Penelope - thanks for the feedback. Perhaps I worded it wrong, or I misread. Rereading CareerHub's piece, I can see that they are differentiating between a compensation package and base compensation. In the case of a total package, benefits should absolutely included in the negotiation. Throughout my career, I've been on both sides of the table, and I know from experience that there must be a give and take between base compensation and the other elements of a compensation package. In light of that, I intended "salary" to reflect "base compensation." As someone with a sales background, a compensation package to me (commission, bonuses, trips, etc. on top of insurance and vacation) is indeed much more than just the base compensation. The entire package should definitely be negotiated as a whole. Hope that clears things up! Penelope – thanks for the feedback. Perhaps I worded it wrong, or I misread. Rereading CareerHub's piece, I can see that they are differentiating between a compensation package and base compensation. In the case of a total package, benefits should absolutely included in the negotiation. Throughout my career, I've been on both sides of the table, and I know from experience that there must be a give and take between base compensation and the other elements of a compensation package.

In light of that, I intended "salary" to reflect "base compensation." As someone with a sales background, a compensation package to me (commission, bonuses, trips, etc. on top of insurance and vacation) is indeed much more than just the base compensation. The entire package should definitely be negotiated as a whole. Hope that clears things up!

]]> By: Nerd Guru http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/04/05/yahoo-column-five-steps-for-getting-a-raise/comment-page-1/#comment-53001 Nerd Guru Thu, 05 Apr 2007 15:41:00 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/04/05/yahoo-column-five-steps-for-getting-a-raise/#comment-53001 Great list. It almost goes without saying that you have to be preparing for that moment for a long time before it actually comes. Documenting what you've contributed to and how you made a difference along the way can give you ammunition for this kind of conversation. You almost have to think of it in terms of a resume, listing out accomplishments using action verbs and using numbers to demonstrate where you've added value. Great list. It almost goes without saying that you have to be preparing for that moment for a long time before it actually comes. Documenting what you've contributed to and how you made a difference along the way can give you ammunition for this kind of conversation. You almost have to think of it in terms of a resume, listing out accomplishments using action verbs and using numbers to demonstrate where you've added value.

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