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		<title>By: Long distance relationships &#171; Travelin&#39; Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Long distance relationships &#171; Travelin&#39; Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of mementos that only you two understand, an envelope of funny pictures, or a cookie bouquet. Technology creates tons of options, too, but we already know [...]</description>
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		<title>By: River</title>
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		<dc:creator>River</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Penelope, 
Kudos on another great post.  

I disagree on half of your later comment &quot;... Most of generation x graduated from college into an absolutely terrible job market. So the idea of relocating away from a significant other was less prominent because there were no jobs worth relocating for.&quot;   

I disagree with this part:  &quot;the idea of relocating away from a significant other was less prominent&quot;.  I think long-distance moves are *more* likely to happen in a BAD job market. But they are not chosen by people who have a decent job already, and are typically moves to locations that were not one&#039;s first choice or second, and they are hoping the move is temporary, just a year or two (hah!).  

I&#039;m thinking of several friends and relatives and myself too, who were faced with the choice of unemployment versus a long-distance move to an area that was not so attractive to them.  Yes, those who had been married or in a serious relationship for several years were the least likely to make the long-distance moves. But they were typically the same people who had had more years of career experience and perhaps a larger network.  

Beyond the immediate financial survival concerns, the other big worry was the question:  How many months or years can a person be unemployed, before it does permanent damage to one&#039;s perception by potential employers?  How many months or years can someone be extremely underemployed, way below one&#039;s abilities (e.g. Ph.D. at the order counter of a fast-food restaurant or driving a taxicab), before it does permanent damage to how one is perceived by potential employers?  I don&#039;t know the answer to these questions of how long.  Perhaps an idea for a future blog post?   

BTW, a general tidbit of feedback (from someone who likes the vast majority of your blog):  The statements I find most annoying from you are when you make generalizations about Gen X or Gen Y or Boomers, and what their differences in values and desires may be.  For each generation, their  proclamations, choices, and actions, all undergo changes when faced with unforeseen major changes to the economy, or calamities (e.g. civil war, invasion).  

I&#039;m going to make an annoying generalization:  Every  generation who grows up during stable years of prosperity in a stable country, tends to make confident, smug statements during their young adulthood about how they are going to balance work life and personal life (although the buzz words for expressing that concept are different for each gen), and they will live by higher ideals than the previous gens, and say they are unconcerned with earning money, say they don&#039;t care about job security, will never work at a boring job, would not stay at a dreadful job just because it is a source of health insurance, etc.  [Doesn&#039;t that merely describe the way any gen would want to live?]  Eventually they are hit by a recession, and their attitude of smug superiority over the previous gen(s) is modified. And parenthood just makes the stakes higher.  Two good things that may happen during a recession are:  the realization that who we are is not so different, at a personal level, than previous generations, and a better attitude towards those who live in poorer countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Penelope,<br />
Kudos on another great post.  </p>
<p>I disagree on half of your later comment &#034;&#8230; Most of generation x graduated from college into an absolutely terrible job market. So the idea of relocating away from a significant other was less prominent because there were no jobs worth relocating for.&#034;   </p>
<p>I disagree with this part:  &#034;the idea of relocating away from a significant other was less prominent&#034;.  I think long-distance moves are *more* likely to happen in a BAD job market. But they are not chosen by people who have a decent job already, and are typically moves to locations that were not one&#039;s first choice or second, and they are hoping the move is temporary, just a year or two (hah!).  </p>
<p>I&#039;m thinking of several friends and relatives and myself too, who were faced with the choice of unemployment versus a long-distance move to an area that was not so attractive to them.  Yes, those who had been married or in a serious relationship for several years were the least likely to make the long-distance moves. But they were typically the same people who had had more years of career experience and perhaps a larger network.  </p>
<p>Beyond the immediate financial survival concerns, the other big worry was the question:  How many months or years can a person be unemployed, before it does permanent damage to one&#039;s perception by potential employers?  How many months or years can someone be extremely underemployed, way below one&#039;s abilities (e.g. Ph.D. at the order counter of a fast-food restaurant or driving a taxicab), before it does permanent damage to how one is perceived by potential employers?  I don&#039;t know the answer to these questions of how long.  Perhaps an idea for a future blog post?   </p>
<p>BTW, a general tidbit of feedback (from someone who likes the vast majority of your blog):  The statements I find most annoying from you are when you make generalizations about Gen X or Gen Y or Boomers, and what their differences in values and desires may be.  For each generation, their  proclamations, choices, and actions, all undergo changes when faced with unforeseen major changes to the economy, or calamities (e.g. civil war, invasion).  </p>
<p>I&#039;m going to make an annoying generalization:  Every  generation who grows up during stable years of prosperity in a stable country, tends to make confident, smug statements during their young adulthood about how they are going to balance work life and personal life (although the buzz words for expressing that concept are different for each gen), and they will live by higher ideals than the previous gens, and say they are unconcerned with earning money, say they don&#039;t care about job security, will never work at a boring job, would not stay at a dreadful job just because it is a source of health insurance, etc.  [Doesn't that merely describe the way any gen would want to live?]  Eventually they are hit by a recession, and their attitude of smug superiority over the previous gen(s) is modified. And parenthood just makes the stakes higher.  Two good things that may happen during a recession are:  the realization that who we are is not so different, at a personal level, than previous generations, and a better attitude towards those who live in poorer countries.</p>
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		<title>By: lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great advice.  I was in two long distance relationships.  The first one did not end so well - and probably should have ended a year (or more!) earlier (Rule number 3!).  The second one ended when we moved to the same city (yay!).  We didn&#039;t really have a plan of when our the distance would end though... so we didn&#039;t follow rule number 1 either.  Rule number 2 is soooo true though!  A great blog for advice about LDRs can be found at www.coupledtogether.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great advice.  I was in two long distance relationships.  The first one did not end so well &#8211; and probably should have ended a year (or more!) earlier (Rule number 3!).  The second one ended when we moved to the same city (yay!).  We didn&#039;t really have a plan of when our the distance would end though&#8230; so we didn&#039;t follow rule number 1 either.  Rule number 2 is soooo true though!  A great blog for advice about LDRs can be found at <a href="http://www.coupledtogether.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coupledtogether.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Invictus Manila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Invictus Manila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tnx for the info above which i think i can use as my guide. I&#039;m one of those who experienced long distance relationship but after eight months, efter we met once i decided to stop our relationship. Because i am afraid of so many things like im not sure how long are we distant from one another. I&#039;m sure as the months add on to our relationship, im getting deeper, my love is really growing for him. But i can&#039;t see and hear any assurance from him that provoke me to a brak up with him. I tried to avoid the communication but then now we are still continous with our conversation thru cellphones and phone calls. I still have true and deep feelings for him, we are not officially in a relationship but then i kno and i can feel that we are still committed to one another. I really like and love him but then i am too afraid that if i will freely let my feelings go deeper and grower at the end there&#039;s really a strong relationship waiting for us....Hai.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tnx for the info above which i think i can use as my guide. I&#039;m one of those who experienced long distance relationship but after eight months, efter we met once i decided to stop our relationship. Because i am afraid of so many things like im not sure how long are we distant from one another. I&#039;m sure as the months add on to our relationship, im getting deeper, my love is really growing for him. But i can&#039;t see and hear any assurance from him that provoke me to a brak up with him. I tried to avoid the communication but then now we are still continous with our conversation thru cellphones and phone calls. I still have true and deep feelings for him, we are not officially in a relationship but then i kno and i can feel that we are still committed to one another. I really like and love him but then i am too afraid that if i will freely let my feelings go deeper and grower at the end there&#039;s really a strong relationship waiting for us&#8230;.Hai&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, my name is Jennifer and i&#039;m 19 years old. I have been in a long distance with my boyfriend for almost a year and i must say it is hard on both of us. He had to move to Florida for family reasons September 2008 and it was the hardest thing that we had to go through. We didn&#039;t know what was going to happen to us and we were both 18 at the time, in love, and we both thought we would be together forever. It was like when he left, he took a part of me with him and i was so hurt that he had to leave.  But during the first year of our long distance relationship, i have flown over to florida twice to see him for two weeks and he came over once to see me for a week and we were so happy to see each other again. We celebrated our 1 year anniversary in Febuary of 2009 and we have made plans that if we stay together even after we graduate from college, i would have saved money to move down there, stay with him and his family and look for a good job, keep it, and we both save enough money until we can live together in Florida.  I really want that day to come and we are both working very hard on this relationship to keep it alive because we both have love and trust that no one we know has more than we have.  I want some more advice on what we can do to keep our relationship alive and healthy since i plan to move down there in less than 3 years and finally settle down with him if our relationship survives until then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, my name is Jennifer and i&#039;m 19 years old. I have been in a long distance with my boyfriend for almost a year and i must say it is hard on both of us. He had to move to Florida for family reasons September 2008 and it was the hardest thing that we had to go through. We didn&#039;t know what was going to happen to us and we were both 18 at the time, in love, and we both thought we would be together forever. It was like when he left, he took a part of me with him and i was so hurt that he had to leave.  But during the first year of our long distance relationship, i have flown over to florida twice to see him for two weeks and he came over once to see me for a week and we were so happy to see each other again. We celebrated our 1 year anniversary in Febuary of 2009 and we have made plans that if we stay together even after we graduate from college, i would have saved money to move down there, stay with him and his family and look for a good job, keep it, and we both save enough money until we can live together in Florida.  I really want that day to come and we are both working very hard on this relationship to keep it alive because we both have love and trust that no one we know has more than we have.  I want some more advice on what we can do to keep our relationship alive and healthy since i plan to move down there in less than 3 years and finally settle down with him if our relationship survives until then.</p>
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		<title>By: paroquiademontelavar.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>paroquiademontelavar.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Communication, trust, honesty and passion will strengthen your relationship whilst you’re apart but you really have to believe in each other and your relationship for it to succeed…. although long distance relationships can be difficult, they can work and do work for many couples if both parties put in the effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Communication, trust, honesty and passion will strengthen your relationship whilst you’re apart but you really have to believe in each other and your relationship for it to succeed…. although long distance relationships can be difficult, they can work and do work for many couples if both parties put in the effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Tips on Long-Distance Relationships (from the New York Times) &#171; FeelingElephants&#8217;s Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tips on Long-Distance Relationships (from the New York Times) &#171; FeelingElephants&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] doing the long-distance thing. Penelope Trunk, one of my favorite bloggers after my mom, says that Millennials (yup, that&#8217;s me) are making long-distance work en-mass. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] doing the long-distance thing. Penelope Trunk, one of my favorite bloggers after my mom, says that Millennials (yup, that&#039;s me) are making long-distance work en-mass. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mabru 1982</title>
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		<dc:creator>mabru 1982</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 14:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some advice- www.relationshipmemory.com. I found this website posted on another article about long distance relationships. I&#039;ve been with my fiance for 8 years, 4 of them were spent with him in NY and me in PA. We&#039;re using this website to help communicate ideas on planning the wedding! I&#039;ve also been able to keep in touch with my best friend from high school and &quot;meet&quot; her new boyfriend on relationship memory. Maybe it&#039;ll work for some of you trying to keep the spice in your relationships or just keep in touch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some advice- <a href="http://www.relationshipmemory.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.relationshipmemory.com</a>. I found this website posted on another article about long distance relationships. I&#039;ve been with my fiance for 8 years, 4 of them were spent with him in NY and me in PA. We&#039;re using this website to help communicate ideas on planning the wedding! I&#039;ve also been able to keep in touch with my best friend from high school and &#034;meet&#034; her new boyfriend on relationship memory. Maybe it&#039;ll work for some of you trying to keep the spice in your relationships or just keep in touch.</p>
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		<title>By: Technology can help a long distance relationship last!! &#171; Juliabv96&#8217;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Technology can help a long distance relationship last!! &#171; Juliabv96&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 07:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] allows you to be creative and appreciate time you have together. Technology makes it easier to communicate on all levels. You no longer are forced to wait for snail mail but instead with a click of mouse your significant [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 07:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use text messages to keep in touch with my girlfriend in Taiwan.  Its especially useful because of the time zone difference.  I use www.Send2World.com which is cheaper, but there are other ones available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use text messages to keep in touch with my girlfriend in Taiwan.  Its especially useful because of the time zone difference.  I use <a href="http://www.Send2World.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.Send2World.com</a> which is cheaper, but there are other ones available.</p>
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