Comments on: Coachology: Creating a path through your twenties http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/16/coachology-creating-a-path-to-through-your-twenties/ Advice at the intersection of work and life Mon, 08 Sep 2008 04:59:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Weekly Quarterlife Links | Quarterlives.com http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/16/coachology-creating-a-path-to-through-your-twenties/#comment-155523 Weekly Quarterlife Links | Quarterlives.com Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:09:22 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/16/coachology-creating-a-path-to-through-your-twenties/#comment-155523 [...] Advice from a Brazen Careerist. Coachology: Creating a Path Through Your Twenties [...] [...] Advice from a Brazen Careerist. Coachology: Creating a Path Through Your Twenties [...]

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]]> By: ashna http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/16/coachology-creating-a-path-to-through-your-twenties/#comment-103953 ashna Sat, 14 Jul 2007 08:38:50 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/16/coachology-creating-a-path-to-through-your-twenties/#comment-103953 I agree that until we take some risks in life and try different options, it is hard to know for sure what we really want in life. I can say it from personal experience. Having raised in a cultured family, some boundaries and limitations are highly expected. But I earned my trust and I think my parents are pretty ok with my decision making and taking my life in my hands, my way. So yeah, I am excited because I will be moving out soon, and also I intend to look into a study abroad session for a semester before I graduate. Thanks for the good points :) I agree that until we take some risks in life and try different options, it is hard to know for sure what we really want in life. I can say it from personal experience. Having raised in a cultured family, some boundaries and limitations are highly expected. But I earned my trust and I think my parents are pretty ok with my decision making and taking my life in my hands, my way. So yeah, I am excited because I will be moving out soon, and also I intend to look into a study abroad session for a semester before I graduate.

Thanks for the good points :)

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]]> By: Aaron Erickson http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/16/coachology-creating-a-path-to-through-your-twenties/#comment-45970 Aaron Erickson Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:40:55 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/16/coachology-creating-a-path-to-through-your-twenties/#comment-45970 6. Upon first job our of college, contribute to your 401k at the maximum you can stand, put the money into a good index fund, and forget about it. You will thank yourself for the rest of your life for your austerity. All these people talking about job security in other threads don't realize that you can take more risks with your job when you are rich. Its very hard to stand up to your boss and tell them that they are wrong when you have to worry about the idea that losing your next check could make you homeless. On the other hand, when you combine a good asset base with the ability to consume very little, you buy yourself the freedom to truly persue your dreams. 6. Upon first job our of college, contribute to your 401k at the maximum you can stand, put the money into a good index fund, and forget about it.

You will thank yourself for the rest of your life for your austerity. All these people talking about job security in other threads don't realize that you can take more risks with your job when you are rich. Its very hard to stand up to your boss and tell them that they are wrong when you have to worry about the idea that losing your next check could make you homeless.

On the other hand, when you combine a good asset base with the ability to consume very little, you buy yourself the freedom to truly persue your dreams.

]]> By: Rambler. http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/16/coachology-creating-a-path-to-through-your-twenties/#comment-44515 Rambler. Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:52:19 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/16/coachology-creating-a-path-to-through-your-twenties/#comment-44515 I seem to beging all my discussions with you with a dilemma, but here it is, hoping your question at the end was not just formailty. I would chose to disagree with you regarding professional help. I myself sometimes feel not so excited, but wouldnt say there is nothing in this world that excites me. I feel lack of excitement shows lack of priorities in life. And generally people lack priority only when they trying to find new ones. After chasing something for so long in life, for example education a hefty paying job, they fail to add to their priorities. I feel this is definitely temporary and some get new interests from friends, some find their own, and Interests themselves find a fortunate few. Its really nice to discuss with you these things. And Its even more nice to find a person who thinks about these things. <strong>* * * * * *</strong> <i>It sounds like you are excited about finding new priorities. That seems like a good place to be. And very different than not excited about anything. --Penelope</I> I seem to beging all my discussions with you with a dilemma, but here it is, hoping your question at the end was not just formailty.

I would chose to disagree with you regarding professional help. I myself sometimes feel not so excited, but wouldnt say there is nothing in this world that excites me.

I feel lack of excitement shows lack of priorities in life. And generally people lack priority only when they trying to find new ones. After chasing something for so long in life, for example education a hefty paying job, they fail to add to their priorities.
I feel this is definitely temporary and some get new interests from friends, some find their own, and Interests themselves find a fortunate few.
Its really nice to discuss with you these things. And Its even more nice to find a person who thinks about these things.

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It sounds like you are excited about finding new priorities. That seems like a good place to be. And very different than not excited about anything.

–Penelope

]]> By: Rambler. http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/16/coachology-creating-a-path-to-through-your-twenties/#comment-44499 Rambler. Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:31:12 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/16/coachology-creating-a-path-to-through-your-twenties/#comment-44499 Thanks a lot for such a fast response. If I could add to my question, there are few people who do not know what is important, and few others who think there is nothing important in life and may be temporary but nothing seems to excite them, What would you say to people of the second category. * * * * * * <I>I am pretty sure that people who are not excited by anything are depressed and need professional help. Excitement about stuff is, of course, not completely rational. We are all going to die, nothing lasts forever, we do not know the meaning of life, etc. But still, part of being human is an ability to get excited by things. I think part of the reason we don't all go jump off a bridge right now is that we think that aroud the corner there will be another thing that is fun, exciting, makes us happy. This is a core part of being human, I think. Believeing that and being curious about what's next. That's why I think that someone who cannot be excited by anything has a mental disorder and would benefit from professional help. I think about this all the time, but it's a tough topic. And I wonder what other people think. Do people agree/disgaree with me? -Penelope</I> Thanks a lot for such a fast response. If I could add to my question, there are few people who do not know what is important, and few others who think there is nothing important in life and may be temporary but nothing seems to excite them, What would you say to people of the second category.

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I am pretty sure that people who are not excited by anything are depressed and need professional help.

Excitement about stuff is, of course, not completely rational. We are all going to die, nothing lasts forever, we do not know the meaning of life, etc.

But still, part of being human is an ability to get excited by things. I think part of the reason we don't all go jump off a bridge right now is that we think that aroud the corner there will be another thing that is fun, exciting, makes us happy. This is a core part of being human, I think. Believeing that and being curious about what's next.

That's why I think that someone who cannot be excited by anything has a mental disorder and would benefit from professional help.

I think about this all the time, but it's a tough topic. And I wonder what other people think. Do people agree/disgaree with me?

-Penelope

]]> By: Rambler. http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/16/coachology-creating-a-path-to-through-your-twenties/#comment-44489 Rambler. Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:02:54 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/16/coachology-creating-a-path-to-through-your-twenties/#comment-44489 I am not sure if I can ask your opinion on this, Have you come across people in mid 20s, with good work experience, lacking knowledge of what is important in life? If yes what would you advice * * * * * * <I>I have come across people of every age with good work experience who don't know what is important in life. This is the human condition, I think. I mean, why are we here? No one knows, right? I have written a bunch about my experience at the World Trade Center (some is on this blog). I was standing next to the first tower that fell, and I felt myself suffocating. I went through all those stages of accepting death, and at the last minute, found some clear air. When I thought I was going to die, all I cared about was that the people I loved were taken care of. I didn't think of anythign beyond the four or five most important people in my life. Afterward, I thought I really knew about what was important in life. I got pregnant. I cut back on my work hours. But you know what? I only got a little better knowlege. I don't know anything, really. No one does. We all just try our best, and every day, if we are trying hard to understand ourselves, we know a little more. That's all. Penelope</I> I am not sure if I can ask your opinion on this, Have you come across people in mid 20s, with good work experience, lacking knowledge of what is important in life? If yes what would you advice

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I have come across people of every age with good work experience who don't know what is important in life. This is the human condition, I think. I mean, why are we here? No one knows, right?

I have written a bunch about my experience at the World Trade Center (some is on this blog). I was standing next to the first tower that fell, and I felt myself suffocating. I went through all those stages of accepting death, and at the last minute, found some clear air. When I thought I was going to die, all I cared about was that the people I loved were taken care of. I didn't think of anythign beyond the four or five most important people in my life.

Afterward, I thought I really knew about what was important in life. I got pregnant. I cut back on my work hours.

But you know what? I only got a little better knowlege. I don't know anything, really. No one does. We all just try our best, and every day, if we are trying hard to understand ourselves, we know a little more. That's all.

Penelope

]]> By: Wendy Waters http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/16/coachology-creating-a-path-to-through-your-twenties/#comment-44244 Wendy Waters Sat, 17 Mar 2007 02:01:51 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/16/coachology-creating-a-path-to-through-your-twenties/#comment-44244 I should have added above, that if you can at all make it work, to try living and/or working (even if volunteering) in another country. The life experience will be something you can draw on for years to come. And a living abroad experience can be written up on a resume in such a way as to make you and your resume stand out -- particularly if you do something really unique or even if you do something ordinary but in an exotic place (like being a ski lift attendant in Japan or Russia). I should have added above, that if you can at all make it work, to try living and/or working (even if volunteering) in another country. The life experience will be something you can draw on for years to come.

And a living abroad experience can be written up on a resume in such a way as to make you and your resume stand out — particularly if you do something really unique or even if you do something ordinary but in an exotic place (like being a ski lift attendant in Japan or Russia).

]]> By: Susan http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/16/coachology-creating-a-path-to-through-your-twenties/#comment-44149 Susan Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:01:23 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/16/coachology-creating-a-path-to-through-your-twenties/#comment-44149 These points really reasonated with me, particularly #3. I took it for granted that I would always be surrounded by people my age. Surprise! Once you start working, it can feel like a job in itself to connect with people close to your age, even if you live in a city. You will definitely be getting an email from ! These points really reasonated with me, particularly #3. I took it for granted that I would always be surrounded by people my age. Surprise! Once you start working, it can feel like a job in itself to connect with people close to your age, even if you live in a city. You will definitely be getting an email from !

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