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	<title>Comments on: The one skill you need for three key areas of career growth</title>
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		<title>By: anna</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/06/the-one-skill-you-need-for-three-key-areas-of-career-growth/#comment-133940</link>
		<dc:creator>anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can totally understand Eileen's comment.  Also, I feel there are too much useless chit-chats around the offices that contribute nothing to anyone but to the speakers themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can totally understand Eileen&#8217;s comment.  Also, I feel there are too much useless chit-chats around the offices that contribute nothing to anyone but to the speakers themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/06/the-one-skill-you-need-for-three-key-areas-of-career-growth/#comment-101718</link>
		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 00:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it's sad that social skills are becoming more important to career advancement. Progress is supposed to increase freedom of choice and make life easier for everyone. Instead, introverts and loners are left with few options other than therapy. 

That said, I have lousy social skills. At 26 I may end up in low to mid-level background tech jobs for the rest of my working life. I can do well on written EQ tests if I answer dishonestly, but in practice I can't think of anything meaningful, or even any convincing BS, to contribute at meetings. Ironically, I want to be rich and famous, but with an utter lack of charisma and expression in my face, at least the "famous" part looks unlikely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s sad that social skills are becoming more important to career advancement. Progress is supposed to increase freedom of choice and make life easier for everyone. Instead, introverts and loners are left with few options other than therapy. </p>
<p>That said, I have lousy social skills. At 26 I may end up in low to mid-level background tech jobs for the rest of my working life. I can do well on written EQ tests if I answer dishonestly, but in practice I can&#8217;t think of anything meaningful, or even any convincing BS, to contribute at meetings. Ironically, I want to be rich and famous, but with an utter lack of charisma and expression in my face, at least the &#8220;famous&#8221; part looks unlikely.</p>
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		<title>By: one of those days at Eat your Vegetables!</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/06/the-one-skill-you-need-for-three-key-areas-of-career-growth/#comment-76218</link>
		<dc:creator>one of those days at Eat your Vegetables!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 04:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The one skill you need for three key areas of career growth [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The one skill you need for three key areas of career growth [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: laurence haughton</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/06/the-one-skill-you-need-for-three-key-areas-of-career-growth/#comment-42258</link>
		<dc:creator>laurence haughton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caitlin's right, IMHO.  Firing is most often a signal of management failure. If networking is critical to a position, how did someone without the ability to network (or the capacity to learn the soft skills of networking) make it past the hiring managers. If managers didn't know networking was critical that's one kind of failure.  If they knew and didn't screen for it, that's another. 

Also people are routinely turned into "not nice to work with" types because of the environment created by management or the fact that they were a poor fit from the beginning.  There's tons of research on both of these points as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caitlin&#8217;s right, IMHO.  Firing is most often a signal of management failure. If networking is critical to a position, how did someone without the ability to network (or the capacity to learn the soft skills of networking) make it past the hiring managers. If managers didn&#8217;t know networking was critical that&#8217;s one kind of failure.  If they knew and didn&#8217;t screen for it, that&#8217;s another. </p>
<p>Also people are routinely turned into &#8220;not nice to work with&#8221; types because of the environment created by management or the fact that they were a poor fit from the beginning.  There&#8217;s tons of research on both of these points as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Caitlin</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/06/the-one-skill-you-need-for-three-key-areas-of-career-growth/#comment-42151</link>
		<dc:creator>Caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 09:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having to fire someone who is a 'technical genius' but has 'poor people skills' sounds to me like a failure of management rather than a failure of personnel. Sometimes talent doesn't come in a nicey-nice package but, if you can learn how to manage it, your company is certainly better of with it than without it.

Of course, it depends on the role. You probably wouldn't want them managing a team or dealing with clients but I think it's vital for managers to have imagination, flexibility and respect so they can utilise the maverick talent and not just the mediocre nice guy. Of course, if you can get someone who's a technical whizz AND has great social skills then great, but it doesn't always work that way.

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&lt;I&gt;Hi, Caitlin. There's a lot of management consulting type research that shows that companies are more effective if they fire someone who is difficult than keeping him around because he's smart.

Here's a case study about this topic from the &lt;a href="http://harvardbusinessonline.hbsp.harvard.edu/b01/en/search/searchResults.jhtml?sid=LK3T4DFJXFGJCAKRGWCB5VQBKE0YOISW&#038;Ntx=mode%2Bmatchallpartial&#038;Ntt=jerk&#038;N=0&#038;Ntk=main_search" rel="nofollow"&gt;Harvard Business Review&lt;/a&gt; (subscription).

The most fun reading on this topic is Bob Sutton's new book, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Asshole-Rule-Civilized-Workplace-Surviving/dp/0446526568" rel="nofollow"&gt;The No Asshole Rule&lt;/a&gt;. He teaches at Stanford University and the book is based on tons of research. It shows the enormous cost of keeping around someone who is not nice to work with -- no matter how smart they are.

--Penelope&lt;/I&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having to fire someone who is a &#8216;technical genius&#8217; but has &#8216;poor people skills&#8217; sounds to me like a failure of management rather than a failure of personnel. Sometimes talent doesn&#8217;t come in a nicey-nice package but, if you can learn how to manage it, your company is certainly better of with it than without it.</p>
<p>Of course, it depends on the role. You probably wouldn&#8217;t want them managing a team or dealing with clients but I think it&#8217;s vital for managers to have imagination, flexibility and respect so they can utilise the maverick talent and not just the mediocre nice guy. Of course, if you can get someone who&#8217;s a technical whizz AND has great social skills then great, but it doesn&#8217;t always work that way.</p>
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<p><i>Hi, Caitlin. There&#8217;s a lot of management consulting type research that shows that companies are more effective if they fire someone who is difficult than keeping him around because he&#8217;s smart.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a case study about this topic from the <a href="http://harvardbusinessonline.hbsp.harvard.edu/b01/en/search/searchResults.jhtml?sid=LK3T4DFJXFGJCAKRGWCB5VQBKE0YOISW&#038;Ntx=mode%2Bmatchallpartial&#038;Ntt=jerk&#038;N=0&#038;Ntk=main_search" rel="nofollow">Harvard Business Review</a> (subscription).</p>
<p>The most fun reading on this topic is Bob Sutton&#8217;s new book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Asshole-Rule-Civilized-Workplace-Surviving/dp/0446526568" rel="nofollow">The No Asshole Rule</a>. He teaches at Stanford University and the book is based on tons of research. It shows the enormous cost of keeping around someone who is not nice to work with &#8212; no matter how smart they are.</p>
<p>&#8211;Penelope</i></p>
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		<title>By: Narcissist or Empath? The Choice Is Ours &#171; The Inspired Solo</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/06/the-one-skill-you-need-for-three-key-areas-of-career-growth/#comment-41934</link>
		<dc:creator>Narcissist or Empath? The Choice Is Ours &#171; The Inspired Solo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/06/the-one-skill-you-need-for-three-key-areas-of-career-growth/#comment-41934</guid>
		<description>[...] March 11, 2007 at 5:17 pm &#183; Filed under Uncategorized   At legal sanity, Arnie Herz writes about &#8220;emotional intelligence and narcissism in the law.&#8221; We&#8217;ve all probably seen the headlines in the last several days about the rise of narcissism in college students. And now Arnie, in discussing this post at the Brazen Careerist on Emotional Intelligence, points out that narcissism is but one demonstrable symptom of low &#8220;EQ.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] March 11, 2007 at 5:17 pm &#183; Filed under Uncategorized   At legal sanity, Arnie Herz writes about &#8220;emotional intelligence and narcissism in the law.&#8221; We&#8217;ve all probably seen the headlines in the last several days about the rise of narcissism in college students. And now Arnie, in discussing this post at the Brazen Careerist on Emotional Intelligence, points out that narcissism is but one demonstrable symptom of low &#8220;EQ.&#8221; [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Anastasia</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/06/the-one-skill-you-need-for-three-key-areas-of-career-growth/#comment-41009</link>
		<dc:creator>Anastasia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laurence "From his definition you can get a handle on how good your empathetic intuitions are. Can you see what’s so captivating about popular culture (Grey’s Anatomy, People Magazine)? Does the opposite sex, another generation, or another culture strike you as illogical or just plain wrong? How many times are you surprised by the behavior of another (associate, spouse, child, boss)? How easy is it for you to make others really happy? Can you tell when you are about to make a bad impression?"

Ironically, what is basically a social disorder that I am currently being treated for stems from an overabundance of these traits. You'd think that empathy so strong it works as mild telepathy would be an asset in the workplace, right? WRONG. The overwhelming input of information makes me twitchy and nervous, which peers respond badly to. Add that to the illusion of being able to see the future and get into people's heads and what you have is the weird coworker that no one wants to interact with. In fact, I am seeing a distinct trend in today's youth towards this type of problem, and I suspect that it is caused by consistent over stimulation during early development. Because it is becoming more common, the the well-adjusted are going to be in higher demand than ever, and while it may currently be an addendum to a resume', I believe that fairly soon it will be a primary reason for hire in management positions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laurence &#8220;From his definition you can get a handle on how good your empathetic intuitions are. Can you see what’s so captivating about popular culture (Grey’s Anatomy, People Magazine)? Does the opposite sex, another generation, or another culture strike you as illogical or just plain wrong? How many times are you surprised by the behavior of another (associate, spouse, child, boss)? How easy is it for you to make others really happy? Can you tell when you are about to make a bad impression?&#8221;</p>
<p>Ironically, what is basically a social disorder that I am currently being treated for stems from an overabundance of these traits. You&#8217;d think that empathy so strong it works as mild telepathy would be an asset in the workplace, right? WRONG. The overwhelming input of information makes me twitchy and nervous, which peers respond badly to. Add that to the illusion of being able to see the future and get into people&#8217;s heads and what you have is the weird coworker that no one wants to interact with. In fact, I am seeing a distinct trend in today&#8217;s youth towards this type of problem, and I suspect that it is caused by consistent over stimulation during early development. Because it is becoming more common, the the well-adjusted are going to be in higher demand than ever, and while it may currently be an addendum to a resume&#8217;, I believe that fairly soon it will be a primary reason for hire in management positions.</p>
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		<title>By: Generations@Work &#187; EQ Meets Wickinomics</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/06/the-one-skill-you-need-for-three-key-areas-of-career-growth/#comment-40752</link>
		<dc:creator>Generations@Work &#187; EQ Meets Wickinomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 02:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For some time now we have been suggesting that a significant convergence is underway as the Millennials take their place in the new economy. Two recent posts make this point nicely. Brazen Careerist looks at the importance of emotional intelligence in the workplace. Blend Penelope&#8217;s observations about EQ with the observations found in a Leading Answers post on &#8220;Wickinomics&#8221;, and we have a fairly positive view of the powerful potential of Millennials in the right work setting. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] For some time now we have been suggesting that a significant convergence is underway as the Millennials take their place in the new economy. Two recent posts make this point nicely. Brazen Careerist looks at the importance of emotional intelligence in the workplace. Blend Penelope&#8217;s observations about EQ with the observations found in a Leading Answers post on &#8220;Wickinomics&#8221;, and we have a fairly positive view of the powerful potential of Millennials in the right work setting. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: russ eckel</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/03/06/the-one-skill-you-need-for-three-key-areas-of-career-growth/#comment-40713</link>
		<dc:creator>russ eckel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 23:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's interesting how so many of the comments view rational formal intelligence and emotional intelligence as so distinctive almost as if these "intelligences" stand in opposition to each other.  These fields as I thnk of them are very interdependent.  It's hard to find people with real emotional intelligence who do not also exhibit a reasonable level of cognitive intelliigence or knowledge,

For most of the  century just passed, organizations sought to reduce work to simple tasks organized by a hierarchy wherein information, and the relationships that information sharing created, was limited to a few at the top of the pyramid.  Think of the Ford Motor Company and H Ford's assembly line.  For much of the twentieth century most organizations emulated this model.  If there was any creativity here it was in the hands of a few engineers or marketing chiefs.  

Back to the Ford analogy for a moment. The main reason that the US auto industry is dying is because the folks in Detroit never figured out that their main rivals, especially Toyota, changed the rules by thinking of their workforce as new sources of information.  New information, or value, is created when people are encouraged to be in relationship.  I think this is what you mean by Connectivity.   GM and Ford live by the "I", Toyota lives by the "We".  The We IS emotional intelligence.  It recognizes that most knowlege is created in RELATIONSHIP.  It is our notion of the lone thinker/genius huddled alone in a laboratory that needs to change.  If you work in a place that still makes or delivers standardized products, the WE is immaterial.  But if, like most of us, you sell what you know, and most of what we sell is created when the WE ( emotional intelligence) is present.  EQ is not an afterthought it is the basis of creating new value.

It sounds like a lot of folks are getting this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting how so many of the comments view rational formal intelligence and emotional intelligence as so distinctive almost as if these &#8220;intelligences&#8221; stand in opposition to each other.  These fields as I thnk of them are very interdependent.  It&#8217;s hard to find people with real emotional intelligence who do not also exhibit a reasonable level of cognitive intelliigence or knowledge,</p>
<p>For most of the  century just passed, organizations sought to reduce work to simple tasks organized by a hierarchy wherein information, and the relationships that information sharing created, was limited to a few at the top of the pyramid.  Think of the Ford Motor Company and H Ford&#8217;s assembly line.  For much of the twentieth century most organizations emulated this model.  If there was any creativity here it was in the hands of a few engineers or marketing chiefs.  </p>
<p>Back to the Ford analogy for a moment. The main reason that the US auto industry is dying is because the folks in Detroit never figured out that their main rivals, especially Toyota, changed the rules by thinking of their workforce as new sources of information.  New information, or value, is created when people are encouraged to be in relationship.  I think this is what you mean by Connectivity.   GM and Ford live by the &#8220;I&#8221;, Toyota lives by the &#8220;We&#8221;.  The We IS emotional intelligence.  It recognizes that most knowlege is created in RELATIONSHIP.  It is our notion of the lone thinker/genius huddled alone in a laboratory that needs to change.  If you work in a place that still makes or delivers standardized products, the WE is immaterial.  But if, like most of us, you sell what you know, and most of what we sell is created when the WE ( emotional intelligence) is present.  EQ is not an afterthought it is the basis of creating new value.</p>
<p>It sounds like a lot of folks are getting this.</p>
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		<title>By: JoJo</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoJo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 18:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dave, I agree that those gifted technical experts are the kinds of employees you want working for you.  I wouldn't call it a lack of self-preservation if they got fired or quit a job because they were forced to work for an idiot who couldn't admit he/she was wrong.  I'd call that a good career move.  The idiot loses a good employee and the expert goes to work for someone like you.

If someone has great skills when it comes to writing code and lousy social skills, so what?  I say quit beating them up over skills they probably don't even care about having and put them in a position where they don't have to have great social skills in the first place.  Put them in a cube writing code, pay them great money, and throw them a sandwich once in a while.  Leave the schmoozing to people who enjoy it and are good at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dave, I agree that those gifted technical experts are the kinds of employees you want working for you.  I wouldn&#8217;t call it a lack of self-preservation if they got fired or quit a job because they were forced to work for an idiot who couldn&#8217;t admit he/she was wrong.  I&#8217;d call that a good career move.  The idiot loses a good employee and the expert goes to work for someone like you.</p>
<p>If someone has great skills when it comes to writing code and lousy social skills, so what?  I say quit beating them up over skills they probably don&#8217;t even care about having and put them in a position where they don&#8217;t have to have great social skills in the first place.  Put them in a cube writing code, pay them great money, and throw them a sandwich once in a while.  Leave the schmoozing to people who enjoy it and are good at it.</p>
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