Comments on: New video blogger for Brazen Careerist: Bruce Tulgan http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/02/07/new-video-blogger-for-brazen-careerist-bruce-tulgan/ Advice at the intersection of work and life Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:34:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Prashant http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/02/07/new-video-blogger-for-brazen-careerist-bruce-tulgan/#comment-36920 Prashant Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:53:02 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/02/07/new-video-blogger-for-brazen-careerist-bruce-tulgan/#comment-36920 It's gone.. So have a couple of other video blog posts. Do you have a policy of not retaining these after a specific no of days? It’s gone.. So have a couple of other video blog posts. Do you have a policy of not retaining these after a specific no of days?

]]> By: Miriam http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/02/07/new-video-blogger-for-brazen-careerist-bruce-tulgan/#comment-28953 Miriam Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:07:23 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/02/07/new-video-blogger-for-brazen-careerist-bruce-tulgan/#comment-28953 I'm with Gilli P. As I said in my comment above, Bruce's method is a great way to lose friends, and as Gilli points out, even employees. Gilli's other points are good too. But as he said, we're in the minority so you probably should listen to the feedback of the majority. I’m with Gilli P. As I said in my comment above, Bruce’s method is a great way to lose friends, and as Gilli points out, even employees. Gilli’s other points are good too. But as he said, we’re in the minority so you probably should listen to the feedback of the majority.

]]> By: Gilli P http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/02/07/new-video-blogger-for-brazen-careerist-bruce-tulgan/#comment-28727 Gilli P Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:20:33 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/02/07/new-video-blogger-for-brazen-careerist-bruce-tulgan/#comment-28727 In every crowd, there is one malcontent you just cannot make happy. In this crowd, that appears to be me. I did not like this video at all. I thought he was snide and condescending. He wears a smirk to rival the one George W Bush sports. He flew right past the good advice (It's about getting the job done) and tried to persuade his audience to be as supercilious as he is. (If I got an obnoxiously delivered "Ding, I'm the Boss" from a colleague and former friend making clear that we were not team members pursuing a common goal but in a master-slave relationship where he was getting off on flaunting his master status, I would start circulating my resume as soon as humanly possible.) Beyond that, blogs are a very personal publishing vehicle. Yours has a very distinct voice, which happens to be your voice. I would be very careful about bringing other people into your own blog because, good or not, they just aren't going to be you, and so will dilute the voice. If you do bring guest bloggers in, I think you want to think very carefully about how they fit in next to you. To me, Bruce does the same kind of thing you do (presents the Gen X and younger viewpoint on the workplace as a writer and speaker) and doesn't do the kind of things you don't do (bring to bear lots of actual on the job experience in traditional bureaucratic organizations, thereby enriching the dialogue with the fruits of long experience). I would say that Bruce's largely duplicative focus is not what you need, as most team building needs to be complementary rather than duplicative, but that's just one malcontent's opinion. In every crowd, there is one malcontent you just cannot make happy. In this crowd, that appears to be me.

I did not like this video at all. I thought he was snide and condescending. He wears a smirk to rival the one George W Bush sports. He flew right past the good advice (It’s about getting the job done) and tried to persuade his audience to be as supercilious as he is. (If I got an obnoxiously delivered “Ding, I’m the Boss” from a colleague and former friend making clear that we were not team members pursuing a common goal but in a master-slave relationship where he was getting off on flaunting his master status, I would start circulating my resume as soon as humanly possible.)

Beyond that, blogs are a very personal publishing vehicle. Yours has a very distinct voice, which happens to be your voice. I would be very careful about bringing other people into your own blog because, good or not, they just aren’t going to be you, and so will dilute the voice.

If you do bring guest bloggers in, I think you want to think very carefully about how they fit in next to you. To me, Bruce does the same kind of thing you do (presents the Gen X and younger viewpoint on the workplace as a writer and speaker) and doesn’t do the kind of things you don’t do (bring to bear lots of actual on the job experience in traditional bureaucratic organizations, thereby enriching the dialogue with the fruits of long experience). I would say that Bruce’s largely duplicative focus is not what you need, as most team building needs to be complementary rather than duplicative, but that’s just one malcontent’s opinion.

]]> By: Caitlin http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/02/07/new-video-blogger-for-brazen-careerist-bruce-tulgan/#comment-28144 Caitlin Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:36:25 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/02/07/new-video-blogger-for-brazen-careerist-bruce-tulgan/#comment-28144 Hi Penelope, I'm just wondering why this post keeps getting republished? It keeps re-appearing in my RSS reader and it's driving me a little crazy so I was just wondering if there was a reason for it? I don't mean to be critical; I think your blog is great. <strong>* * * * * * * </strong> <I>Oh. Thanks for letting me know, Caitlin. I wonder why more people haven't complained. This is very bad. Fixing now.... -Penelope</i> Hi Penelope, I’m just wondering why this post keeps getting republished? It keeps re-appearing in my RSS reader and it’s driving me a little crazy so I was just wondering if there was a reason for it? I don’t mean to be critical; I think your blog is great.

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Oh. Thanks for letting me know, Caitlin. I wonder why more people haven’t complained. This is very bad. Fixing now….

-Penelope

]]> By: Stuart http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/02/07/new-video-blogger-for-brazen-careerist-bruce-tulgan/#comment-26769 Stuart Fri, 09 Feb 2007 19:35:27 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/02/07/new-video-blogger-for-brazen-careerist-bruce-tulgan/#comment-26769 Penelope, No need to apologize for Bruce's blog. The vidoe quality was excellent, it uploaded quickly and the most important point he was VERY relevant. The "ding" moment was right on the money! Stuart Penelope,

No need to apologize for Bruce’s blog. The vidoe quality was excellent, it uploaded quickly and the most important point he was VERY relevant.

The “ding” moment was right on the money!

Stuart

]]> By: Chris http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/02/07/new-video-blogger-for-brazen-careerist-bruce-tulgan/#comment-26420 Chris Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:02:14 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/02/07/new-video-blogger-for-brazen-careerist-bruce-tulgan/#comment-26420 Penelope, I'm not entirely sure by what is meant by "Hey, we're not like the Baby Boomers." It sounds like someone's insinuation that everyone born between certain dates is the same. That is not true at all. I am of the so called Baby Boomer generation. I hate that title, by the way. My generation was/is very diverse. We cover the whole spectrum. I do not necessarily relate to or have much in common with folks just because our birth dates are within a few years of each other. Human interactions are more complicated than that. I would guess that you do not like being labeled and put into a box any more that I do. The date on a person's birth certificate doesn't define him or her. However, I think ageism is going to be one of the last 'isms' to die. <strong>* * * * * *</strong> <I>, Chris. Thaks for bringing up a topic in the comments section that I actually hear a lot about from emails sent to me directly. That is, Baby Boomers at the tail end of the generation (which I'm assuming you are) hate the label. This is undertandable. However you should know that I get a lot of this mail from people at the tail end and never from any other portion of the Baby Boomer demographic. Just a point of interest. I, for one, have no problem being labeled as part of a generation (I'm an X-er). I love it, in fact. I find the generational stereotypes to be largely true and very informative when it comes to understanding how the workplace is actually functioning. Just becasue some people don't fit the stereotype, doesn't mean the stereotype is not true. I think, in fact, generational stereotypes are very useful for us to unerstand why we do what we do at work. Penelope</i> Penelope,

I’m not entirely sure by what is meant by “Hey, we’re not like the Baby Boomers.”

It sounds like someone’s insinuation that everyone born between certain dates is the same. That is not true at all. I am of the so called Baby Boomer generation. I hate that title, by the way.

My generation was/is very diverse. We cover the whole spectrum. I do not necessarily relate to or have much in common with folks just because our birth dates are within a few years of each other. Human interactions are more complicated than that.

I would guess that you do not like being labeled and put into a box any more that I do.

The date on a person’s birth certificate doesn’t define him or her. However, I think ageism is going to be one of the last ‘isms’ to die.

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, Chris. Thaks for bringing up a topic in the comments section that I actually hear a lot about from emails sent to me directly. That is, Baby Boomers at the tail end of the generation (which I’m assuming you are) hate the label. This is undertandable. However you should know that I get a lot of this mail from people at the tail end and never from any other portion of the Baby Boomer demographic. Just a point of interest.

I, for one, have no problem being labeled as part of a generation (I’m an X-er). I love it, in fact. I find the generational stereotypes to be largely true and very informative when it comes to understanding how the workplace is actually functioning. Just becasue some people don’t fit the stereotype, doesn’t mean the stereotype is not true. I think, in fact, generational stereotypes are very useful for us to unerstand why we do what we do at work.

Penelope

]]> By: Joyce Lain Kennedy http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/02/07/new-video-blogger-for-brazen-careerist-bruce-tulgan/#comment-25965 Joyce Lain Kennedy Thu, 08 Feb 2007 02:53:18 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/02/07/new-video-blogger-for-brazen-careerist-bruce-tulgan/#comment-25965 Penelope and Bruce, your video blog is spectacular. Congratulations on a masterful presentation. Please Mum,Please Sir, Can we have more? Penelope and Bruce, your video blog is spectacular. Congratulations on a masterful presentation. Please Mum,Please Sir, Can we have more?

]]> By: Stever http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/02/07/new-video-blogger-for-brazen-careerist-bruce-tulgan/#comment-25888 Stever Wed, 07 Feb 2007 22:55:35 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/02/07/new-video-blogger-for-brazen-careerist-bruce-tulgan/#comment-25888 so Penelope, what kind of video camera are you thinking of buying? :) so Penelope, what kind of video camera are you thinking of buying? :)

]]> By: Tom http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/02/07/new-video-blogger-for-brazen-careerist-bruce-tulgan/#comment-25864 Tom Wed, 07 Feb 2007 21:57:05 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/02/07/new-video-blogger-for-brazen-careerist-bruce-tulgan/#comment-25864 Penelope - I'm in agreement with Benjamin, Andy and the rest. The message was delivered clearly and concisely. And - best of all - it was a quality production. The video and audio were great. I'd love to see more of Bruce. ...As long as he doesn't "Ding!" us again. ;-) Penelope -

I’m in agreement with Benjamin, Andy and the rest. The message was delivered clearly and concisely.

And - best of all - it was a quality production. The video and audio were great. I’d love to see more of Bruce.

…As long as he doesn’t “Ding!” us again. ;-)

]]> By: Mikeachim http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/02/07/new-video-blogger-for-brazen-careerist-bruce-tulgan/#comment-25858 Mikeachim Wed, 07 Feb 2007 21:48:37 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/02/07/new-video-blogger-for-brazen-careerist-bruce-tulgan/#comment-25858 I think the point he's making (and making it well) seems to be that in a workplace you *can* be two things to people - a work peer and also an equal friend - but being the boss is the role that is played. It's a mask, and either you wear it well or you wear it badly, but either way you're still wearing it. People who pretend otherwise aren't doing *their* jobs. Employees have clearly-defined roles and responsibilities too. ... I think if I'd been met with "Ding! And I'm the boss." I would have felt a twinge of annoyance, and then tracked down the source being annoyance at myself. I also would have laughed out loud. :) Nice video. I think the point he’s making (and making it well) seems to be that in a workplace you *can* be two things to people - a work peer and also an equal friend - but being the boss is the role that is played. It’s a mask, and either you wear it well or you wear it badly, but either way you’re still wearing it. People who pretend otherwise aren’t doing *their* jobs. Employees have clearly-defined roles and responsibilities too.
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I think if I’d been met with “Ding! And I’m the boss.” I would have felt a twinge of annoyance, and then tracked down the source being annoyance at myself. I also would have laughed out loud. :)
Nice video.

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