Comments on: How to make ladder-climbing a positive experience http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/30/how-to-make-ladder-climbing-a-positive-experience/ Advice at the intersection of work and life Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:26:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: R. William Holland http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/30/how-to-make-ladder-climbing-a-positive-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-249080 R. William Holland Thu, 14 Apr 2011 15:24:23 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/30/how-to-make-ladder-climbing-a-positive-experience/#comment-249080 There seems to be a sense among employees today that they will be asked to leave long before moving up becomes an issue. As such, climbing the organizational ladder is in danger of becoming a lost art. I thought that when I read Penelope’s advice about finding an organizational sponsor—a “specific type of mentor who is well connected, will make you known to the right people, and help you steer yourself within the Company. At one time climbing the organizatonal ladder was a dirty word. Now it is someting all of us should learn more about... Read my post on the subject at crackingthenewjobmarket.com. R. William Holland There seems to be a sense among employees today that they will be asked to leave long before moving up becomes an issue. As such, climbing the organizational ladder is in danger of becoming a lost art. I thought that when I read Penelope’s advice about finding an organizational sponsor—a “specific type of mentor who is well connected, will make you known to the right people, and help you steer yourself within the Company.

At one time climbing the organizatonal ladder was a dirty word. Now it is someting all of us should learn more about…

Read my post on the subject at crackingthenewjobmarket.com.

R. William Holland

]]> By: HOW TO GET A GREAT MENTOR | Cracking The New Job Market http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/30/how-to-make-ladder-climbing-a-positive-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-249078 HOW TO GET A GREAT MENTOR | Cracking The New Job Market Thu, 14 Apr 2011 15:17:25 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/30/how-to-make-ladder-climbing-a-positive-experience/#comment-249078 [...] it comes to career advice, the Brazen Careerist (http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/30/how-to-make-ladder-climbing-a-positive-experience/) is at the top of my list.  Their subjects are relevant to today’s workforce and the advice is [...] [...] it comes to career advice, the Brazen Careerist (http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/30/how-to-make-ladder-climbing-a-positive-experience/) is at the top of my list.  Their subjects are relevant to today’s workforce and the advice is [...]

]]> By: Assech Omega http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/30/how-to-make-ladder-climbing-a-positive-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-248583 Assech Omega Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:06:08 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/30/how-to-make-ladder-climbing-a-positive-experience/#comment-248583 <a href="http://www.chineseenergetics.com" rel="nofollow"> Energy Psychology </a> this is just really amazing!!
Energy Psychology

this is just really amazing!!

]]> By: Darrin Grella – Interview Guru» Blog Archive » Salaries Top Out @ Age 40 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/30/how-to-make-ladder-climbing-a-positive-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-245583 Darrin Grella – Interview Guru» Blog Archive » Salaries Top Out @ Age 40 Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:42:27 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/30/how-to-make-ladder-climbing-a-positive-experience/#comment-245583 [...] choose a career that men dominate. But it’s not just about industry—it is also about influence. Stick to line-management positions rather than support roles. For example, skip human resources and go to supply chain [...] [...] choose a career that men dominate. But it’s not just about industry—it is also about influence. Stick to line-management positions rather than support roles. For example, skip human resources and go to supply chain [...]

]]> By: R. William Holland http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/30/how-to-make-ladder-climbing-a-positive-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-243088 R. William Holland Tue, 08 Feb 2011 19:50:35 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/30/how-to-make-ladder-climbing-a-positive-experience/#comment-243088 Very solid advice, but let's refine that business about a sponsor. Mentoring relationships are two-way streets. That is, what you can do for the mentor is just as important as what the mentor can do for you. If you are doing project work for them, be sure and do a great job. If it is information that's being provided, make sure you check and re-check it for accuracy and usability. You will find that mentees who do excellent work with and for their mentors get much stronger support. For these reasons and many more, company sponsored mentoring programs are not the best way to go--unless that's all you've got. Good mentess do good work and are recognized for it. Those that offer less are often little more than partonized and eventually disappointed about the whole process. Great blog. You will hear more from me!! Very solid advice, but let's refine that business about a sponsor. Mentoring relationships are two-way streets. That is, what you can do for the mentor is just as important as what the mentor can do for you. If you are doing project work for them, be sure and do a great job. If it is information that's being provided, make sure you check and re-check it for accuracy and usability.
You will find that mentees who do excellent work with and for their mentors get much stronger support.

For these reasons and many more, company sponsored mentoring programs are not the best way to go–unless that's all you've got. Good mentess do good work and are recognized for it. Those that offer less are often little more than partonized and eventually disappointed about the whole process.
Great blog. You will hear more from me!!

]]> By: Salaries top out at age 40 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/30/how-to-make-ladder-climbing-a-positive-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-243052 Salaries top out at age 40 Tue, 08 Feb 2011 05:30:56 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/30/how-to-make-ladder-climbing-a-positive-experience/#comment-243052 [...] a career that men dominate. But it’s not just about industry—it is also about influence. Stick to line-management positions rather than support roles. For example, skip human resources and go to supply chain [...] [...] a career that men dominate. But it’s not just about industry—it is also about influence. Stick to line-management positions rather than support roles. For example, skip human resources and go to supply chain [...]

]]> By: What Would You Tell Your College Self? : Brazen Careerist http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/30/how-to-make-ladder-climbing-a-positive-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-148910 What Would You Tell Your College Self? : Brazen Careerist Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:42:38 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/30/how-to-make-ladder-climbing-a-positive-experience/#comment-148910 [...] your own ladder. There are some places where the career ladder is dead. There are others where it’s not. Who cares? Make your own career ladder based on your wildest dreams. Whether that means job [...] [...] your own ladder. There are some places where the career ladder is dead. There are others where it’s not. Who cares? Make your own career ladder based on your wildest dreams. Whether that means job [...]

]]> By: What Would You Tell Your College Self? at Personal PR http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/30/how-to-make-ladder-climbing-a-positive-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-148888 What Would You Tell Your College Self? at Personal PR Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:57:54 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/30/how-to-make-ladder-climbing-a-positive-experience/#comment-148888 [...] your own ladder. There are some places where the career ladder is dead. There are others where it’s not. Who cares? Make your own career ladder based on your wildest dreams. Whether that means job [...] [...] your own ladder. There are some places where the career ladder is dead. There are others where it's not. Who cares? Make your own career ladder based on your wildest dreams. Whether that means job [...]

]]> By: Susan http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/30/how-to-make-ladder-climbing-a-positive-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-22454 Susan Fri, 02 Feb 2007 04:16:07 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/30/how-to-make-ladder-climbing-a-positive-experience/#comment-22454 I'm sorry to say it, but as someone who does PR/marketing for a non-profit (double the pink ghetto factor), these same rules of hierarchy can apply. Sometimes at a really small non-profit (my friend works on a staff of eight people), you can boundary span and wear a lot of different hats, but my experience has been that you're expected to pay your dues by working in a support role AND go without an annual bonus. Your reward is in fulfilling the mission. I'm sorry to say it, but as someone who does PR/marketing for a non-profit (double the pink ghetto factor), these same rules of hierarchy can apply. Sometimes at a really small non-profit (my friend works on a staff of eight people), you can boundary span and wear a lot of different hats, but my experience has been that you're expected to pay your dues by working in a support role AND go without an annual bonus. Your reward is in fulfilling the mission.

]]> By: CKWong http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/30/how-to-make-ladder-climbing-a-positive-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-22028 CKWong Thu, 01 Feb 2007 00:12:30 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/30/how-to-make-ladder-climbing-a-positive-experience/#comment-22028 Unfortunately I'm in a support role and love it very much, I guess that means a limited opportunity for me. I wish management can acknowledge the importance of the support staffs. But reality is that the main actors/actresses are all that matter, all the rest of the people are just there to make them shine. I wonder if there are any industries that value the support staffs as much as the money-generating ones? Maybe non-profit? Unfortunately I'm in a support role and love it very much, I guess that means a limited opportunity for me. I wish management can acknowledge the importance of the support staffs. But reality is that the main actors/actresses are all that matter, all the rest of the people are just there to make them shine.

I wonder if there are any industries that value the support staffs as much as the money-generating ones? Maybe non-profit?

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