Comments on: How to sidestep office hierarchy to get the job you want http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/29/how-to-sidestep-office-hierarchy-to-get-the-job-you-want/ Advice at the intersection of work and life Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:42:25 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Mark Johansen http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/29/how-to-sidestep-office-hierarchy-to-get-the-job-you-want/comment-page-1/#comment-211449 Mark Johansen Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:16:01 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/29/how-to-sidestep-office-hierarchy-to-get-the-job-you-want/#comment-211449 I work for a small company which just moved into a new building owned by the company. Everything, after 8 months, is in place except the weight room. It's the only room that would benefit everyone, and yet has no equipment in it and is being used as storage. I'm going to seek a budget, get a few co-workers, clean out that room, and stock it with exercise equipment. Thanks Penelope. Mark - Louisville, Ky. I work for a small company which just moved into a new building owned by the company. Everything, after 8 months, is in place except the weight room. It's the only room that would benefit everyone, and yet has no equipment in it and is being used as storage.

I'm going to seek a budget, get a few co-workers, clean out that room, and stock it with exercise equipment.

Thanks Penelope.
Mark – Louisville, Ky.

]]> By: Tom Morgan http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/29/how-to-sidestep-office-hierarchy-to-get-the-job-you-want/comment-page-1/#comment-21767 Tom Morgan Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:07:16 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/29/how-to-sidestep-office-hierarchy-to-get-the-job-you-want/#comment-21767 Great post Penelope. You provide a great recipe for success because all managers love self starters that solve problems for them. One normally does more before they get more. Too many of my colleagues complain about a situation and then say they would fix the problem if only they were given the authority. If they followed your advice they could volunteer to solve the problem. Great post Penelope. You provide a great recipe for success because all managers love self starters that solve problems for them.

One normally does more before they get more.

Too many of my colleagues complain about a situation and then say they would fix the problem if only they were given the authority.

If they followed your advice they could volunteer to solve the problem.

]]> By: Jenny http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/29/how-to-sidestep-office-hierarchy-to-get-the-job-you-want/comment-page-1/#comment-21668 Jenny Tue, 30 Jan 2007 05:52:34 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/29/how-to-sidestep-office-hierarchy-to-get-the-job-you-want/#comment-21668 Thanks for responding..I love your blog. And my employers usually appreciate me. Just doesn't mean they want to fork over any more money for me. I see you worked in some kind of business management before becoming a columnist? That, I assume, put you in the position to increase profits. Usually there is indeed a reward in that. There is less likely to be a reward in jobs that have no impact on the bottom line. <strong>* * * * * * *</strong> <I>Jenny, Thank you for this comment. It was the reason I decided to write <a href="http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/30/how-to-make-ladder-climbing-a-positive-experience/" rel="nofollow">this post</a> about line managers vs. support staff. -Penelope</i> Thanks for responding..I love your blog. And my employers usually appreciate me. Just doesn't mean they want to fork over any more money for me.

I see you worked in some kind of business management before becoming a columnist? That, I assume, put
you in the position to increase profits. Usually there is indeed a reward in that. There is less likely to be a reward in
jobs that have no impact on the bottom line.

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Jenny,

Thank you for this comment. It was the reason I decided to write this post about line managers vs. support staff.

-Penelope

]]> By: Jenny http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/29/how-to-sidestep-office-hierarchy-to-get-the-job-you-want/comment-page-1/#comment-21634 Jenny Tue, 30 Jan 2007 02:36:55 +0000 http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/29/how-to-sidestep-office-hierarchy-to-get-the-job-you-want/#comment-21634 I like this post but you left out a critical part - could you explain how did boss ended up giving you money to start a company? All of my employer have been nothing like that. Basically, they just want people to take on more work and responsibility without providing any extra compensation or appreciation. Your post assumes that hard work and initiative will be rewarded. Sadly, in many organizations it is not. <strong>* * * * * *</strong> <I>Well, you bring up a good point that I do leave out details in the story. But really, I got startup money from the CEO because I chose a good person to work for and I did a great job. We are not in a tight job market today. In most cases, you do not need to continue working for people who do not appreciate you. -Penelope</i> I like this post but you left out a critical part – could you explain how did boss ended up giving you money to start a company?

All of my employer have been nothing like that. Basically, they just want people to take on more work and responsibility without providing any extra compensation or appreciation.

Your post assumes that hard work and initiative will be rewarded. Sadly, in many organizations it is not.

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Well, you bring up a good point that I do leave out details in the story. But really, I got startup money from the CEO because I chose a good person to work for and I did a great job.

We are not in a tight job market today. In most cases, you do not need to continue working for people who do not appreciate you.

-Penelope

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