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		<title>By: Business Plans: What are they good for? &#124; illuminea marketing and media</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/05/8-outdated-notions-of-entrepreneurship/comment-page-1/#comment-220791</link>
		<dc:creator>Business Plans: What are they good for? &#124; illuminea marketing and media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 8 Outdated Notions of Entrepreneurship, Brazen Careerist. Penelope Trunk compares the &#8220;old&#8221; notion of entrepreneurship to the &#8220;new.&#8221; In the &#8220;old&#8221; model, entrepreneurs raised lots of money and spent it on advertising, while the &#8220;new&#8221; do not raise any money, and spend none on ads. &#8220;Old&#8221; style entrepreneurs planned a lot to make sure their new idea would work, while &#8220;new&#8221; owners &#8220;Forget the big plan.&#8221; They just go for it, and if it doesn&#8217;t work, they try again. See Penelope&#8217;s other excellent articles about entrepreneurship: 9 new ideas that may sway on-the-fence entrepreneurs, and Finding courage to steer your career. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 8 Outdated Notions of Entrepreneurship, Brazen Careerist. Penelope Trunk compares the &#034;old&#034; notion of entrepreneurship to the &#034;new.&#034; In the &#034;old&#034; model, entrepreneurs raised lots of money and spent it on advertising, while the &#034;new&#034; do not raise any money, and spend none on ads. &#034;Old&#034; style entrepreneurs planned a lot to make sure their new idea would work, while &#034;new&#034; owners &#034;Forget the big plan.&#034; They just go for it, and if it doesn&#039;t work, they try again. See Penelope&#039;s other excellent articles about entrepreneurship: 9 new ideas that may sway on-the-fence entrepreneurs, and Finding courage to steer your career. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 8 Outdated notions of entrepreneurship from Brazen Careerist &#124; Escape From Cubicle Nation</title>
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		<dc:creator>8 Outdated notions of entrepreneurship from Brazen Careerist &#124; Escape From Cubicle Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 02:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] attached to her name, and Penelope lives up to the tag line.  She just wrote a great post on 8 Outdated notions of entrepreneurship that is worth checking out.  A few of my favorites: Old: Entrepreneurs are born with a specific [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Samuel Diamond</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/05/8-outdated-notions-of-entrepreneurship/comment-page-1/#comment-164439</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel Diamond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this list, but the one where you say most jobs end, and most businesses succeed, I have to say that is a huge misconception about starting your own business or solution. 

I have seen many people get fired from their jobs ( and the pink slips are flying all over the place with the economy going hay-wire ), and they come up with bummy ideas, or good ideas and just not enough intelligence, resources, or a favorable market to have a good business.

Most people and businesses in general fail because  of not doing what is on most of your list, but also one big thing: Seeing the whole picture.

I can say that I have single-handedly failed four businesses in the last four years. A lot of it was to do with my short-sightedness, and my inability to not stick to the same methods of attaining success. 

Even the raise no money and do no advertising. Raising money and advertising are two different beasts, and the 2nd one can ruin a company if they are in a saturated market. A lot of successful website gurus give off the &quot; I did it with the word-of-mouth&quot; technique, and now there is such a huge herd of people thinking they can do the same.

I won&#039;t go into my view of advertising ( which I feel is equally important if you haven&#039;t networked the right people, and doesn&#039;t hurt if your competition is just living off a branded system.), but I have consulted businesses and freelancers, and find that they are all entities that contain a litany of mistakes, and the short-sighted ( and half-assed idea-makers) will all fail.

I am not trying to dampen your list, but I think even with the flailing economy, I think starting a business in this climate in insanely more riskier than a normal job. You can become more successful with the former, but the latter keeps the mediocre entrepreneurs from outright drowning.

Before I get blasted, let me give you some ideas that I have seen people float around my circle:

1. An idea for ice cream delivery. Very good, except that two other companies in my area do it already, they make very little on the venture ( they sell more than ice cream), and the demographic that is untapped is college students, who are only around in the winter and a part of the spring ( which is the best time for ice cream?)

2. An idea for a publication for musicians locally online. Most local musicians are poor, and since everyone has the &quot;advertise nothing&quot; mentality of building a name, no one will end up advertising on the blog. It is currently doing well by taking in donations for reviews, but that well will dry up once all the musicians in the area are reviewed.

These aren&#039;t all the examples, but what is astonishing is that many people will follow the same path without looking around for competition, a decent strategy, or even a sensible revenue structure.

This should be learned over time, but my whole point is the learning curve kills more entrepreneurs than jobs, and you both can learn from your mistake and get another job or a better business plan. At the end of the day, its cooler to be on your own, but no way anyone can tell me creating a business is less riskier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this list, but the one where you say most jobs end, and most businesses succeed, I have to say that is a huge misconception about starting your own business or solution. </p>
<p>I have seen many people get fired from their jobs ( and the pink slips are flying all over the place with the economy going hay-wire ), and they come up with bummy ideas, or good ideas and just not enough intelligence, resources, or a favorable market to have a good business.</p>
<p>Most people and businesses in general fail because  of not doing what is on most of your list, but also one big thing: Seeing the whole picture.</p>
<p>I can say that I have single-handedly failed four businesses in the last four years. A lot of it was to do with my short-sightedness, and my inability to not stick to the same methods of attaining success. </p>
<p>Even the raise no money and do no advertising. Raising money and advertising are two different beasts, and the 2nd one can ruin a company if they are in a saturated market. A lot of successful website gurus give off the &#034; I did it with the word-of-mouth&#034; technique, and now there is such a huge herd of people thinking they can do the same.</p>
<p>I won&#039;t go into my view of advertising ( which I feel is equally important if you haven&#039;t networked the right people, and doesn&#039;t hurt if your competition is just living off a branded system.), but I have consulted businesses and freelancers, and find that they are all entities that contain a litany of mistakes, and the short-sighted ( and half-assed idea-makers) will all fail.</p>
<p>I am not trying to dampen your list, but I think even with the flailing economy, I think starting a business in this climate in insanely more riskier than a normal job. You can become more successful with the former, but the latter keeps the mediocre entrepreneurs from outright drowning.</p>
<p>Before I get blasted, let me give you some ideas that I have seen people float around my circle:</p>
<p>1. An idea for ice cream delivery. Very good, except that two other companies in my area do it already, they make very little on the venture ( they sell more than ice cream), and the demographic that is untapped is college students, who are only around in the winter and a part of the spring ( which is the best time for ice cream?)</p>
<p>2. An idea for a publication for musicians locally online. Most local musicians are poor, and since everyone has the &#034;advertise nothing&#034; mentality of building a name, no one will end up advertising on the blog. It is currently doing well by taking in donations for reviews, but that well will dry up once all the musicians in the area are reviewed.</p>
<p>These aren&#039;t all the examples, but what is astonishing is that many people will follow the same path without looking around for competition, a decent strategy, or even a sensible revenue structure.</p>
<p>This should be learned over time, but my whole point is the learning curve kills more entrepreneurs than jobs, and you both can learn from your mistake and get another job or a better business plan. At the end of the day, its cooler to be on your own, but no way anyone can tell me creating a business is less riskier.</p>
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		<title>By: Ilya Grigorik</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/05/8-outdated-notions-of-entrepreneurship/comment-page-1/#comment-146689</link>
		<dc:creator>Ilya Grigorik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 12:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old: &quot;I&#039;m going to learn the ropes at XYZ first, then start my own operation&quot;
New: &quot;I wrote version #1 this past weekend at Starbucks. Seed capital = none; Users = 100,000 and growing;&quot;

Moral of the story: Just do it. Y-Combinator companies are continuously pumping out great products at $10,000 a pop (usually straight out of school, if even)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old: &#034;I&#039;m going to learn the ropes at XYZ first, then start my own operation&#034;<br />
New: &#034;I wrote version #1 this past weekend at Starbucks. Seed capital = none; Users = 100,000 and growing;&#034;</p>
<p>Moral of the story: Just do it. Y-Combinator companies are continuously pumping out great products at $10,000 a pop (usually straight out of school, if even)</p>
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		<title>By: Queercents &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Career &#38; Money Part 7: Starting Your Own Business</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/05/8-outdated-notions-of-entrepreneurship/comment-page-1/#comment-110525</link>
		<dc:creator>Queercents &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Career &#38; Money Part 7: Starting Your Own Business</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is far different than it was years ago and many of those old myths need not apply. Check out these &#8220;8 Outdated Notions of Entrepreneurship&#8221; to see if you&#8217;re stuck with some outdated belief that is keeping you [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is far different than it was years ago and many of those old myths need not apply. Check out these &#034;8 Outdated Notions of Entrepreneurship&#034; to see if you&#039;re stuck with some outdated belief that is keeping you [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jocelyn</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/05/8-outdated-notions-of-entrepreneurship/comment-page-1/#comment-37272</link>
		<dc:creator>Jocelyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Penelope-

Just stumbled upon your blog. What a great find. As someone who jumped off the corporate ladder and dove into a start-up, I like your &quot;new rules.&quot; Being part of a start up is a wonderful, wild ride with highs and lows. We&#039;ll refer to your list often, I&#039;m sure.
I also enjoyed the earlier post (it was link in this one) to the 9 facts to sway the on-the-fence entrepreneur.
I&#039;ll tune in more often.

Jocelyn Ring</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Penelope-</p>
<p>Just stumbled upon your blog. What a great find. As someone who jumped off the corporate ladder and dove into a start-up, I like your &#034;new rules.&#034; Being part of a start up is a wonderful, wild ride with highs and lows. We&#039;ll refer to your list often, I&#039;m sure.<br />
I also enjoyed the earlier post (it was link in this one) to the 9 facts to sway the on-the-fence entrepreneur.<br />
I&#039;ll tune in more often.</p>
<p>Jocelyn Ring</p>
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		<title>By: The Anti 9-to-5 Guide &#187; Lists you can use</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/05/8-outdated-notions-of-entrepreneurship/comment-page-1/#comment-22518</link>
		<dc:creator>The Anti 9-to-5 Guide &#187; Lists you can use</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 12:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Entrepreneurial myths debunked: Brazen Careerist, the ever-insightful blog of journalist Penelope Trunk, recently ran a list I love called &#8220;8 outdated notions of entrepreneurship.&#8221; Seriously, if there&#8217;s one link you click this week, it should be this one. Among the old chestnuts she debunks: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Entrepreneurial myths debunked: Brazen Careerist, the ever-insightful blog of journalist Penelope Trunk, recently ran a list I love called &#034;8 outdated notions of entrepreneurship.&#034; Seriously, if there&#039;s one link you click this week, it should be this one. Among the old chestnuts she debunks: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Social computation and creativity &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Outdated beliefs about entrepreneurship</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/05/8-outdated-notions-of-entrepreneurship/comment-page-1/#comment-16152</link>
		<dc:creator>Social computation and creativity &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Outdated beliefs about entrepreneurship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 05:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Penelope Trunk has a great post about entrepreneurship. She suggests that entrepreneurship now is different than it was five years ago and compares old and new beliefs of enterpreneurs. After reading her post, I feel I was lucky enough by not knowing the beliefs she labeled as old. I started my first business in Russia in 1991 while being a student. I learned the things she labeled as new after about a year of my experience running the company. My beliefs about entrepreneurship were rather stable over the last 14 years (my variant is somewhat different from the one in her blog):  Old: Entrepreneurs are born with a specific set of character traits. New: People learn entrepreneurship when they start doing it.   Old: Starting a business is risky. New: Having a job is risky. Most businesses succeed, most jobs end.   Old: Climb the corporate ladder, learn the ropes, then start a company. New: Start a company to learn the ropes.   Old: Make a business plan and make sure it’s going to work before you start. New: Just try it. Start and adapt as you go. When it is done, you can describe it in a winning business plan if you want.   Old: Raise money and spend a lot of it on advertising. New: Raise no money and spend no money on advertising; spend your time improving your product/service instead. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Penelope Trunk has a great post about entrepreneurship. She suggests that entrepreneurship now is different than it was five years ago and compares old and new beliefs of enterpreneurs. After reading her post, I feel I was lucky enough by not knowing the beliefs she labeled as old. I started my first business in Russia in 1991 while being a student. I learned the things she labeled as new after about a year of my experience running the company. My beliefs about entrepreneurship were rather stable over the last 14 years (my variant is somewhat different from the one in her blog):  Old: Entrepreneurs are born with a specific set of character traits. New: People learn entrepreneurship when they start doing it.   Old: Starting a business is risky. New: Having a job is risky. Most businesses succeed, most jobs end.   Old: Climb the corporate ladder, learn the ropes, then start a company. New: Start a company to learn the ropes.   Old: Make a business plan and make sure it’s going to work before you start. New: Just try it. Start and adapt as you go. When it is done, you can describe it in a winning business plan if you want.   Old: Raise money and spend a lot of it on advertising. New: Raise no money and spend no money on advertising; spend your time improving your product/service instead. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Vanderkam</title>
		<link>http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2007/01/05/8-outdated-notions-of-entrepreneurship/comment-page-1/#comment-15451</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Vanderkam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Penelope: Cool post -- it certainly is a myth that the best course of action is to climb the ladder and pay your dues and THEN hop out of the grind. The National Association for the Self-Employed reports that over time, there&#039;s been a trend toward younger workers entering self-employment. People are realizing that it&#039;s the years when you DON&#039;T have a mortgage or kids or other responsibilities that it&#039;s easiest to take a risk. Well, such as it is -- starting a microbusiness can be a lot less risky than working for a big corporation that can eliminate your job with a tick of the stock price. I linked to this post from Grindhopping.com.

- Laura Vanderkam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Penelope: Cool post &#8212; it certainly is a myth that the best course of action is to climb the ladder and pay your dues and THEN hop out of the grind. The National Association for the Self-Employed reports that over time, there&#039;s been a trend toward younger workers entering self-employment. People are realizing that it&#039;s the years when you DON&#039;T have a mortgage or kids or other responsibilities that it&#039;s easiest to take a risk. Well, such as it is &#8212; starting a microbusiness can be a lot less risky than working for a big corporation that can eliminate your job with a tick of the stock price. I linked to this post from Grindhopping.com.</p>
<p>- Laura Vanderkam</p>
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		<title>By: Escape from Cubicle Nation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Escape from Cubicle Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 16:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;8 Outdated notions of entrepreneurship from Brazen Careerist&lt;/strong&gt;

Penelope Trunk offers great advice in her weekly column for the Boston Globe and Brazen Careerist blog. I always love a woman with brazen attached to her name, and Penelope lives up to the tag line. She just wrote a</description>
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<p>Penelope Trunk offers great advice in her weekly column for the Boston Globe and Brazen Careerist blog. I always love a woman with brazen attached to her name, and Penelope lives up to the tag line. She just wrote a</p>
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